WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Who Needs To Play More? 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:05.320 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:16.720 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:20.520 screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:33.120 Star in Friscola. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob Phillips, 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:37.960 and Bill Jones, and welcome to Talking Cowboys inside the 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:42.680 SWBC Mortgage Studio on a Thursday that's more like a 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:46.280 Wednesday in terms of schedule for your Dallas Cowboys getting 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:49.360 set for the New York New York Giants Monday night 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:52.560 at the Meadowlands. Were there just a couple of weeks 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:55.320 ago for the Jets and now it's another division matchup. 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:59.760 Rob Phillips in for Bill Jones, Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought 0:00:59.840 --> 0:01:02.120 us for the next forty five minutes. Phone number eight 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:04.440 eight eight five five two two ninety seven if you 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:08.559 want to join the conversation. And it's it's kind of nice, 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:10.760 guys to get back into what is somewhat of a 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:13.600 normal routine and start getting set for an opponent and 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:16.600 talking about another football team and a football game. I 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:18.679 hope you enjoyed the break, because it's about to happen 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:21.200 fast and furious, for the next five weeks. Did Bill 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:24.520 Jones not know this was a Wednesday? Yeah, technically it 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:26.920 is for the football team, not for Bill. He's got 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:30.720 TV duties and that's okay. Yeah, that's okay. We'll get 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:34.360 back into a routine next week, a normal routine. You're right, Brian. 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:36.200 Did somebody say it in the press conference just now 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:38.839 at Jason Garrett that what five games in like twenty 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:41.200 six days or five days? Yeah, it's not about four 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:44.800 and nineteen. Yeah, that's that's some of the thing. You know, 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:46.800 the league tried to help you out a little bit 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:49.720 with the buy the way they put it, but yeah, 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:52.240 this is one of those those runs where we always 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:54.680 we kind of we say, oh, it nice to have 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:56.880 the buy, and then next thing, you know, you start 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:59.000 to look at the schedule a little bit you say, oh, oh, 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.440 that's about to happen, and you know, so, you know, 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:04.720 I always tell those guys upstairs though it we're gonna 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:06.680 wake up and it's gonna be Thanksgiving. I say that 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:08.600 about week two, Well, you're gonna wake up. It's gonna 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:11.200 be Christmas. You know, one of those days. But I 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:14.200 just you know, this team has gone through that a lot. 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:16.840 You know, they understand with the way of having to 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:21.040 plan Thanksgiving. The new twist is the game the following Thursday. 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:24.560 That's the that's the twist that they kind of throw 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:26.880 on this team the last couple of years to give 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:30.639 them those two Thursday games. But you know, yeah, you've 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:33.000 got to be ready for it. And the coach was 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:35.680 talking about his team's health wise is probably the best 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:38.840 they've been since, uh since Opening Day, and that's when 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:41.960 they faced the Giants last time. So, uh, you know, 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:44.960 that's we've we've learned that if this team is healthy, 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:47.239 it's a it's a pretty damn good team. When it's 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:49.600 not healthy, that they tend to have some struggles. So 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:51.720 see how it goes. You know, it's almost like they 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:55.280 make the by punitive. It's like you get a bye 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.480 and they give you a Monday night game. Sure, and 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:02.360 now you're scrap hambling to get ready for the next Sunday, 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:05.920 right because you got sent to New York for a 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:09.720 night game, right right, And now it's a short week 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:12.920 to start with. Now, if you were going to Chicago, 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:15.760 right all right, you get back in Kansas City, you'll 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:17.679 be back by you know, one in the morning, or 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.239 you're gonna get home at four thirty in the morning. 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:22.960 No one gets to bed to five five thirty, and 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:25.919 then you got to play again on Sunday and then 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:29.320 night so yeah, and then it continued. It's a night game. 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:32.760 But as from a preparations stamp, right, those extra four 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:37.080 hours don't do you any good. Uh. And then you're 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:40.200 on the road the next two games, right right, And 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:42.680 then you got to play on a short week on Thanksgiving, 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:45.280 but you're going to New England on Sunday, so by 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:49.200 time you get back from that, you know, monday's a wash. Yeah. 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:52.640 So yeah, as Brian said, you know when you hit 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:57.000 the street, it's gonna be after Thanksgiving. Yeah, and that's 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:00.320 a lot of games to play for that stretch. Three 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:04.160 out of four on the road, but four in nineteen 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:09.360 days when it should be twenty eight days parking lot Moon. Well, 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:12.160 that part hasn't worked out well because they'll you know, 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:14.040 look at their record. They're one and two on the 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:18.039 road this year. Yeah. So I will say this, We've 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:19.760 covered this team when they've had to buy in like 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:22.720 week three, and if you're gonna have a buy, it 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:25.479 needs to be right when they had it, because you know, 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:28.120 your team generally is probably in better shape after three 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:31.480 games or two games than it is right now healthwise. Yeah, 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:33.599 I think you made a great point there, Rob With 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:35.800 the health. I think that's the most important thing. If 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.400 you can get halfway through the season and have your 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:42.039 health reasonably there, which they do. They have their health there, 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.760 and so you know, if you can, you just need 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:47.320 to be You're probably gonna need to be. Like we 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:50.440 were talking about six or three or better, these next nine. 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:53.480 You can't give away any games. You can't have anything 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:57.360 bad happen, you can't have self inflicted problems. You need 0:04:57.400 --> 0:04:59.080 to go out and win the games you're supposed to win. 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:01.520 Maybe have to steal the game down the road somewhere. 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:04.520 But yeah, I mean this this division is for the 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:07.320 take and for you know, the Cowboys and the Eagles 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:10.240 the way it is because if you win that Jets game, 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:12.280 Mickey was talking about it. You win that Jets game, 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:14.680 you know you're looking at a two game. You know 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:17.360 you're looking probably at a two game lead, and that's 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:20.440 you know, now, it's it's uh, it's pretty much it's 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:23.040 for whoever can find a way to play the best 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.599 these next nine games. So it looks like from a 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:28.920 health standpoint, the majority of those guys should be back 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:32.840 in practice. Yeah. Uh, they keep mentioning Anthony Brown. I 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:37.440 don't think he's ready for this week. Uh. Layton Vanderish 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:40.440 was another guy he mentioned that would be more limited 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:43.760 in the other guys at the next thing or against Philly. Yeah, 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:46.960 it was a neck injury, and I don't know if 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:49.920 it you know, it started as a stinger and now 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:53.880 it's just a neck injury. Uh, So that's concerning, Uh 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:56.119 the other guys. I think some of those other guys 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:59.760 might be limited, but not as limited that played through stuff. 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.880 And then we talked yesterday about the Cam Fleming thing, 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:06.520 which to me is somewhat problematic just from a number 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:10.320 standpoint at your tackle position, and there's not like, you know, 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:13.520 you're gonna have to start playing guards at tackles if 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:15.800 things get even worse. It's true, and he's going to 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:19.240 be gone for a couple of weeks. So that's that's significant. 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:21.960 You know, too bad that somebody didn't have an excess 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.599 of offensive tackles out there. You could have made a 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:28.360 trade for you know, a sixth or a seventh and said, okay, 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:32.400 I need this guy or a poach somebody's but again, 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:34.760 that's a guy that hasn't played, So it's that any 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:37.760 better than Brandon Night right now. See. And then you 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:40.240 get guys like Mitch Hyatt who's been on the practice 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:42.520 squad the whole year. But Mitch Hyatt is kind of 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:45.760 like Tristan Hill, you know, not ready to play physically, 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:48.720 maybe not enough, Yeah, exactly. So I think that to me, 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:52.400 it's you know, you look at the you like Mickey 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:55.200 was talking about a trade or a possibility of a poach, 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:57.919 and you know, and that's that's a good opportunity to 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:00.320 do that because you got some of these guys that 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:04.720 have been on practice squads for six, seven, eight weeks 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.560 now and they're thinking, Okay, the season's going away, I 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:09.120 need to get on a roster. I need to get 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:11.360 an accrude season here. How do I do it? So 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:14.400 you can if you can identify somebody, it's a little 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:17.960 bit easier now to poach a guy, especially if you're 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:19.880 a team that's kind of in the mix. If you're 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:21.720 a team that's poaching at the end of the year, 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.480 those guys kind of don't want to move. They get happy. 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:27.480 They're like, like you trying to poach somebody from a 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:31.320 playoff team, a New Orleans, a New England, a Kansas 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:33.920 City that those teams, those guys are like, nah, I'm 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:35.880 just gonna stick this one out. Feel like I can, 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:38.600 you know, get playoff money, feel like I can get 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:41.120 maybe a ring, you know. So it's a little bit 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:42.960 more difficult to poach guys when you get down to 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:44.520 the end. You got to kind of do it in 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:46.480 the middle, when when they're interested in trying to get 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:49.640 that accrude season and the Cowboys just got poached yesterday 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:52.800 Mike Jackson their Murky corner, I think fifth round draft pick. Yes, 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:56.400 mine in Miami Detroit Lions. Now, walk me through how 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:59.760 that works because the poaching part, if you want to 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:03.520 call it that, because players don't always necessarily give the 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:05.960 team that is there with at the moment on the 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:08.040 practice wat an opportunity. If it's an opportunity to go 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:10.600 play on a fifty three man roster, they'll just take it. Right. 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:13.400 Any agent that's listening to us, and there's some agents 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:15.640 that listen to our show, and we appreciate you guys. 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:19.680 You know, an agent worth this salt. We'll tell the 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:21.720 team what's going on. We'll tell you. If you have 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:23.880 a relationship with the team, you'll tell them, hey, listen, 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:26.080 we have an opportunity to go to Detroit Lions. Jason 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.920 Garrett talked about it today. If he had a practice 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:31.400 assume if he had a spot, then they would have. 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:33.400 You know, they liked Jackson, they would have probably put 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:35.960 him on the active fifty three. They don't have the spot. 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:38.640 So what you have to do then is as an agent, 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:41.560 you give the team warning, Hey, we're gonna go for 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:43.480 this fifty three? Would you have a spot for him? 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:46.319 Can you do something for him? And the team? Will 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:48.160 you just say no, we can't do anything, but we 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:52.559 can make it financially worth your while. And sometimes guys say, yeah, 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:55.040 that's good enough for me extra money, Fine, we'll do that, 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:57.880 or he'll say, no, we need to we need to 0:08:57.920 --> 0:08:59.880 go on and try and get the secrued season and 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.840 get this started. So, um, you know, they didn't have 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:06.119 a spot for him, tried to make some financial arrangements, 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:07.880 didn't work out there. So he's going to be a 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:09.920 Detroit and I'll see him here in a couple of weeks. Yeah, 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:12.720 And the difference is making seven thousand dollars a week 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:15.440 and then making twenty thousand dollars a week. Yeah, if 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:18.240 you're at a minimum. Yeah, And Brian's right, and it 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:20.920 sounded like, you know, it's like what they did with 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:25.079 Jarwin right the two years ago and they Philadelphia came, 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:27.200 they were trying to poach him, and they was like, 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:29.400 I'm sure they paid him a little bit more. Now, 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.160 when you sign a guy off the practice squad, you 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:34.000 got to keep him for three weeks. We got to 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:36.720 pay him for three weeks. Three weeks, which made me think, 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:40.920 what happens when you approach a guy with two games 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:42.520 to go in the season, you still have to pay 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:45.440 them three weeks to pay Yeah, it doesn't roll over 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:50.200 till yeah, next you gotta keep him, gotta keep no, 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:52.080 I think I think you have to pay him, right, 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:54.000 You have to pay him, yeah, even though you only 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:56.920 get him for two games, right, So you better really 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:59.480 want them. Some teams are really Some teams could be 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:01.840 pretty sneaky the way they do it. And you know, 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:03.800 if you have an agent that doesn't work with you. 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:06.440 But as an agent, you always want to have relationships 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:08.439 with all thirty two teams. You don't want to be 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:11.199 a guy that's moving guys around, and you know he 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:14.880 he pulled a Jim Er say and moved him. Moved 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:17.400 his moved the team in the middle of the night, 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:20.400 you know, from Baltimore to Indianapolis. Yeah, you know, you 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:22.079 don't want to be that guy. It's his dad, it 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:24.199 moved to team, right, not Jim. Who's his dad's name, 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:28.400 Art Bill or say Jim, or say it's him. It 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:31.560 was Junior. Yeah, there's two of them. Junior's junior, right, 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:35.760 But yeah, yeah, And you know, and so the Cowboys, 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:40.280 if they were probably weren't in the injury situation. They 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:43.160 were like on the offensive line, you could have said, Okay, 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.440 I'm gonna put one of these guys down. I don't 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.320 want to lose this guy, right, I can't afford to 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:49.199 do that because of the injuries. They could they could 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:51.720 have made a decision on Anthony Brown. You know what 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:55.000 if Anthony Brown was not going along well enough and 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:57.079 they said, you know what, we'll just move on from Anthony. 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:59.400 You know. And also Anthony Brown is doesn't have a 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.560 contract next year too, so it might be a situation 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:04.480 where they look back and they say, oh, we should 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:06.760 have maybe, but they would have to put him on 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:11.640 injured reserve right, right, So that wouldn't for the spot, yeah, 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:15.680 which would be for the season because well just about right, Yeah, 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:17.880 I mean weeks are left in the season. It's an 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:20.840 eight thing, so yeah, for sure, And they don't feel 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:22.640 like that's the case with him, although it doesn't sound 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:27.360 like he's yeah, yeah, it's coaching. Coaching is good if 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:29.640 you know, if you're a bad team and you kind 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:31.640 of see it through the first eight weeks of the season, 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:34.160 just start I mean, we're not gonna go anywhere. Got's 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:36.520 to start just dumping guys and picking up guys. I mean, 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:38.439 that's if you're a bad team, try and think about 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.320 your roster in two thou twenty. But in this case, 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:44.360 having a having a tackle that's potentially better than Cam 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:47.840 Fleming is inviting to me and inviting to Mickey, I'm sure. 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:50.880 But they've gave him a two year deal now. The 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:54.320 bye week surely helped Tyrn Smith and Lyle Collins, they 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:58.120 did play against Philly, finished the game despite them being 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:00.960 banged up. What are your thoughts on what you guys 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:03.120 have seen from Brandon Knight in the event at some 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:05.880 point in the next couple of weeks he might need 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:12.000 to come in for snaps. M. Look, it wasn't as 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.800 bad two games, I think, not as bad as I 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:17.960 thought it was gonna be. Yeah, it wasn't great, right, Uh, 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:21.760 probably not ready for this, But you know what, what 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:25.400 other recourse do you have at this point? Um? I 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:29.240 think you have to trust Mark Colombo in those guys 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:32.200 like him. Yeah, Mark likes him so. And I said 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:35.840 this the other day. I mean they had an opportunity 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:38.440 to when they were trying to get I think Cedric 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:41.880 Wilson up week one from the practice squad because of 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:43.719 other injuries. That was a guy I mean, they had 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:45.760 a surplus at lyneman, and they said no, because what 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.040 you guys are talking about, if you've got a good one, 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:50.520 it's such a premium spot. They're hard to find. They 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:53.640 kept him around, you know. I was told that while 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:57.720 it wasn't perfect, maybe the biggest benefit of him playing 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:01.319 what did he play like a quarter and a half 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:07.679 against the Packers then he played the game that he 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.360 actually gained a little confidence in himself, like he was 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.320 one of these guys that knew that he was the 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:16.240 fifty third guy on the roster and kind of acted 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:18.920 that way, right, And then all of a sudden. He 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:21.400 I was told he started to feel like he was 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:24.440 a part of something and that he actually played better 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:28.280 than he had been playing because they were depending on him. So, 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:30.360 you know, who knows what a guy like that, maybe 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:32.640 the light comes on. I mean, they liked him enough 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:35.680 to keep him in the first place, right, I never thought, 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:38.679 you know, just watch him in training camp. He struggled, 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:41.680 He struggled a lot. Yeah, but they saw something in 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:45.520 him to build on it. So you know, sometimes see, yeah, 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:48.679 sometimes you're if you you're able to make all the practices. 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:51.800 Remember how dinged up and banged up they got. You know, 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:54.360 think about if they if if in fact that they 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:56.080 would have been able, you know, the guard that they 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:58.840 drafted at a Penn State. You know, if if he 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:02.160 would have not been hurt, you know, that would have 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:04.280 been you know that that would have been one less 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:07.240 spot right there, because there there was Taco. We're going 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:09.480 to keep him, you know, we're gonna keep him on 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:11.680 the fifty three. And it just didn't work out that way. 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:14.720 That could have very well been Night's spot. Sure, you know, 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:17.040 Night would have you know, if he wouldn't have practiced 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:20.600 every single day, moved over to guard like the last 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:23.120 couple of weeks of training camp to kind of help 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:26.520 him out through a bad situation. You know, maybe he doesn't, 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:28.640 maybe he's not here, Maybe we're not talking about him. 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:30.440 Maybe we're talking about him on the practice squad as 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:32.720 a guy that you could potentially bring up and we 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:34.960 wouldn't know anything about him other than what we've seen 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:38.040 in training camp. And Mickey's not wrong. Mickey's not wrong. 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:41.120 There was nothing in training camp that was spectacular. Mark 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:45.200 Colombo was taken a taken a look at his practice 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:47.560 that he's had, the practices he's had in his mind, 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:50.400 but also looking at what he did at Indiana, you know, 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:52.760 he's like, Ah, this guy's got a little toughness about him. 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:54.360 He's got a little nastiness to him. He's got a 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:56.920 we need to keep him around kind of guy. You know. 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:00.480 And if Connor McGovern would have not, you know, hurt 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.080 or been hurt the whole training camp, you know, we 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.760 might not be talking about Brandon Night. What impressed me 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:09.440 was the Packer game just getting thrown in and it 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:12.200 was cleared it was pass pro pass pro, pass pro 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:14.800 because they were been catchup mode in that game. Right um. 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:18.080 Speaking of McGovern, and Noah Brown and sound like they're 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:22.240 ready to practice. Ye, start that clock wrong with Noah 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:27.280 Brown's is need that bad? I mean it injury? Right? Yeah? 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:30.040 Well he had hits surgery. Remember he had it scoped. 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:32.240 But but it was But was it a scope or 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:34.720 was it a full blown we're out for eight to 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:37.400 ten months kind of a thing. It's it's kind of 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:43.240 turning into that. Well or here's the other thing. So 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:46.600 say you start him practicing, right, you have to make 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:49.280 a decision, and he's ready to play. Yeah, you got 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:52.680 three weeks were cutting? Well, yeah, you gotta have to 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:54.600 make a room for him. It's a three week window 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:58.600 right now, it's six. Well, it's it's it's three and 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:01.720 then two, yeah, or two and then three. I can't 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:06.360 it's one of those. Yeah, And so you gotta cut 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:09.840 somebody or you're gonna leave him on IR Now you 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:12.320 can do that too. See this is where this is 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:16.680 where I'll start start thinking about guys like, Okay, Devin Smith, 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:19.960 you did a great job with I'm okay keeping him around. 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:22.320 Cedric Wilson. You drafted him obviously you like him on 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:24.160 special teams and what he can do. He could play 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:26.560 all three spots you'd like him for that. Now I'm 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.880 looking at it again, Tavon Austin. What is Tavon Austin 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:33.160 doing for me? Is Tavon Austin doing enough? Is Tavon Austin? 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:38.360 Can you supplement somebody else for Tavon Austin snaps, who 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:40.720 is probably not going to be here again next year? Okay? 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:43.880 So what does Noah Brown give me that you don't 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.560 have right now? And don't tell me he can block, 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:51.200 you can block? Give me something else? Could he? Could 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:55.320 he better than Devin Smith going downfield? I'm not trying 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:58.200 to cut Devin Smith. I I gotta have to cut somebody. Yeah, 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.880 That's why I'm trying to move on from from Tavon Austin, 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:03.120 is what I'm trying to do. If if if Tavon 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:06.120 Austin is just going to be this guy that we're 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.639 seeing now, I mean I'm not I'm not know about 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:12.760 you guys. There's been nothing spectacular about Taylor. Now. Maybe 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:15.320 Tavon Austin will bring a punt back or something like that. 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:19.520 Maybe he'll do something to make my mind change. But 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:22.920 I'm looking to these players that don't have contracts next year. Yeah, 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:25.440 but you still have rights to Noah Brown. You're not 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:27.680 going to lose him, No, but I want him to play. 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:29.520 That's what I'm trying to figure out. Us don't know 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:32.240 where he fits in. Yeah, I mean at least TV 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.440 talking to the wrong guy here. Tavon gives you a 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:38.920 dimension that no one else does right now. I don't 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:41.520 know how well they've used it or how well he's 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:45.719 utilized his dimension, but they try to do stuff with him. 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:50.800 He's an insurance policy for Cobb too. Who Well, he's 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:53.600 the guy, he's the punt returner. Yeah, he's the punt 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:56.480 returner basically, and they'll put him in there for jet 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:59.080 sweep here or there. Cedric plays the slot and he 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:01.359 plays punt rich or we set the the preseason. He 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:04.200 can return punts as well. See, I'm just to me 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:07.280 that if there's something really really wrong with him, then 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:09.680 just keep him on IR the whole year. That's fine. 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:12.439 Mickey's right, you got his rights work for next year. 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:14.800 But if there's something he could come in and help 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:16.920 you with. Now, if you like the way that and 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:19.000 Mickey was telling about the blocking stuff, if you like 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:21.719 the blocking stuff, if you like special team stuff, if 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:24.760 you maybe like an occasional play a big body guy 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:27.760 down the field, you know, I mean to me, those 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:29.520 are all there are things. They kind of use him 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:32.359 as a big tight end, you know, if you have 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:36.119 a big tight end. Yeah right, well you do, you do. 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:38.360 But are they using the big tight ends? Well enough, 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:40.840 that's another thing. Well, the one that can get down 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:42.960 the field. Yeah, he needs to have a big game 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:46.760 this game Giants. He tends to play well against the Giants, 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:50.320 so hopefully he'll eighty nine. Yeah, yeah he does. Yeah, hopefully, 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:54.080 So something about that building. Okay, five two two nine 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:56.480 seven is the number if you want to join the conversation. 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:59.240 We're going to get into the New York Giants and 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:02.440 this match up Monday. Finally some football next, I'm talking Cowboys. 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:07.120 Your new apartment's big, such a great deal, that's okay, 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:14.600 just okay. What's not right about the subway? Well, I 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:19.720 bet you don't even notice it after that's my neighbor. Angus. 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:23.240 A deal that's just okay, is not okay? Get a 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:25.880 great deal with America's best network. 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