1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to Before Breakfast, a production of iHeartRadio. Good Morning. 2 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: This is Laura. Welcome to the Before Breakfast podcast. Today's 3 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: tip is to rethink what is family friendly. Sometimes jobs 4 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: that aren't known for being family friendly can be more 5 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: doable than you think. Today's tip, like some others this week, 6 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: comes from my book I Know How She Does It, 7 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: which came out ten years ago this month. For this book, 8 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: I collected time diary data from one thousand and one 9 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: days in the lives of women with big careers and 10 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: families to see what life really looked like. It turns 11 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: out that in the one hundred and sixty eight hours 12 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: of a week, there is time to work, have family time, sleep, exercise, read, 13 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: or whatever else people choose to do. Lots of women 14 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: and men quietly and successfully do have it all anyway. 15 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: I collected data from women in all sorts of fields 16 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: that have not historically been known for being family friendly, law, medicine, finance, tech, consulting, 17 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: you name it, and yet these women often had a 18 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: ton of control of their time, and the higher of 19 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: the latter they were, the more autonomy they had. They 20 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: also earned enough that they could afford the help they 21 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: needed to deal with any potential challenges. For instance, a 22 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: woman working at a hedge fund told me that despite 23 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: her field's reputation, she basically worked market hours plus ninety 24 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: minutes on either side. That means that on a normal 25 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: day she worked from eight to five thirty. Her time 26 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: log showed that she did not work at night, she 27 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: did not work on weekends. She got paid a lot. 28 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: Not bad, right. Or Consider a physician who told me 29 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: she cringed when she heard young and women say things 30 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: like I'd like to go to medical school, but I 31 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: also want a family. She noted that no one says 32 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: I'd like to be a teacher, but I also want 33 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: to have a family, using that loaded word but. But 34 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: the physician had arranged her life to have way more 35 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: flexibility in her practice than her friends who were teachers 36 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: turned out to have, and she noted she earned multiple 37 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: times what her teacher friends were earning. I am sometimes 38 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: asked what the best job is for working mothers, and 39 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: I like to say, CEO, I'm kidding, but only sort of. 40 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: Because when you run the show, the meeting will happen 41 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: when you want it to happen, And if you want 42 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: to leave early for something, you will and other people 43 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: will figure it out, and if you don't feel like 44 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: cooking dinner, well, you can use some of your extra 45 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: cash to sort out that problem. That is to say, 46 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: the evidence from time diaries is that many jobs that 47 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: aren't known for being family friendly can indeed be quite 48 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: family friendly if you want them to be. So, don't 49 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: rule anything out. If you find something intriguing and you'd 50 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: like to try it, you could. If you are offered 51 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: a job, you can always negotiate to work however you'd like, 52 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: or you can simply work for organizations that focus on results, 53 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: especially if you see that other people there tend to 54 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: be enjoying full lives as well. They are in on 55 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: a little secret. Sometimes things are family friendly that aren't 56 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: known for being family friendly. Maybe you can take advantage 57 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: of that secret too. In the meantime, this is Laura. 58 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, and here's to making the most of 59 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: our time. Thanks for listening to Before Breakfast. If you've 60 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: got questions, ideas, or feedback, you can reach me at 61 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: Laura at Laura vandercam dot com. Before Breakfast is a 62 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: production of iHeartMedia. For more podcasts from iHeartMedia, please visit 63 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to 64 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: your favorite shows.