Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind listener Mail.
Speaker 2: My name is Robert Lamb.
Speaker 3: And I am Joe McCormick. And hey Rob, you're back.
Speaker 3: It's good to have you back.
Speaker 2: Man. Yeah. Yeah, it was out out for a week there,
Speaker 2: traveling with family, resetting the brain a little bit. So yeah,
Speaker 2: happy to jump back in with a softball of an episode.
Speaker 2: Here jumping in with a listener mail.
Speaker 3: Oh boy, Well, if you don't have any issues, I
Speaker 3: guess we should dive right in.
Speaker 2: I mean I have issues like all of this, but
Speaker 2: none that really pertain to listener mail. So let's do it.
Speaker 3: Okay, Wait, I almost forgot. At the beginning of these episodes,
Speaker 3: I give out our listener mail address, so every Monday
Speaker 3: we read back listener mail. If you've never gotten in
Speaker 3: touch before, you should give it a shot. Email us
Speaker 3: at contact at to Blow your Mind dot com. Whatever
Speaker 3: you want to send us, fair game. But we especially
Speaker 3: appreciate if you have something interesting to add to a
Speaker 3: topic we've recently talked about on the show. So this
Speaker 3: first message we're gonna mention today is actually a follow
Speaker 3: up to a previous listener mail. Remember we got the
Speaker 3: message from Jeremy after our episode on Strange Ice where
Speaker 3: Jeremy sent us some pictures from a tunnel in Switzerland
Speaker 3: that was frozen over. It was either a tunnel or
Speaker 3: a cave that was showing what appeared to be ice stalagmites,
Speaker 3: and we were asking, wait a minute, are these the
Speaker 3: kind of spike ice formations that we talked about in
Speaker 3: the Strange Ice episode. Where As a pool of water
Speaker 3: freezes because of the expansion of water as it makes
Speaker 3: the phase transition to a solid, sometimes it will squeeze
Speaker 3: up out of a hole in the surface of that
Speaker 3: pool and form like a spike that goes up into
Speaker 3: the air. Or we were wondering is that the case
Speaker 3: or was it a gin and stalagmite like the kind
Speaker 3: that would form in a cave through gradual accretion through dripping,
Speaker 3: and Jeremy has the answer to the question. Jeremy says, Hello,
Speaker 3: Robert and Joe, thank you once again for reading one
Speaker 3: of my emails. The ice formations are definitely stalagmites in
Speaker 3: this case, as there are matching stalactites on the roof
Speaker 3: of the tunnel. Please see attached. These are three to
Speaker 3: ten feet or one to three meters long, and Jeremy
Speaker 3: does indeed include photos for us that are photos of
Speaker 3: the stalactites dripping from above. These are normal looking icicles,
Speaker 3: very sharp spikes of ice coming down from the ceiling
Speaker 3: and then directly below them on the floor are a
Speaker 3: matching pattern of these ice stalagmites, though interestingly, the ones
Speaker 3: on the ceiling are very sharp and the ones on
Speaker 3: the floor are very rounded and bulbous. Jeremy mentions quote
Speaker 3: the floor lower ice formations remind me of the water
Speaker 3: probes in nineteen eighty nine's The Abyss, one of our
Speaker 3: beloved nineteen eighty nine underwater movies. And Jeremy, that comparison
Speaker 3: is spot on. That is exactly what they look like.
Speaker 2: Yeah. These are beautiful, very very clear, very crystal clear,
Speaker 2: not like the some of the formations you find ice
Speaker 2: or otherwise and like you know, sort of industrial settings
Speaker 2: and subway tunnels and whatnot. Very clear, very glass like.
Speaker 3: Some of them are shaped like the alien water probes
Speaker 3: from the ABYSS. A few of them are shaped more
Speaker 3: like Matrioshka dolls.
Speaker 2: You see that, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can see that. Yeah. Now,
Speaker 2: speaking of the ABYSS, Joe. Have you seen The Abyss
Speaker 2: in recent years? I don't know. I've seen it since
Speaker 2: it came out initially.
Speaker 3: It's been quite a while. I recall liking it when
Speaker 3: I saw it many years ago, but thinking that maybe
Speaker 3: it was a bit too long and that some of
Speaker 3: its themes didn't fully cohere, but that it was like
Speaker 3: an admirable, ambitious movie that had some very enjoyable performances
Speaker 3: in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that's That's sort of the way I
Speaker 2: hold it up. But again, I haven't watched it in
Speaker 2: so long. I remember the last time I was looking
Speaker 2: into seeing it, it had not yet been released on
Speaker 2: Blu Ray, I want to say, or it hadn't been
Speaker 2: hadn't been re released and given the additional care it deserved,
Speaker 2: And I think it has subsequently. I think they even
Speaker 2: re released it in theaters for like a very limited
Speaker 2: run in the last year or so.
Speaker 3: I would be very interested to see it again. I've
Speaker 3: actually more recently seen the trashier eighty nine underwater movies.
Speaker 3: I've seen Leviathan, who knows how many times? You know,
Speaker 3: Deep Star six, the the Roger Corman one that's just unwatchable.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, I'm blanking on that one Warlords of the Deep.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe not, but the Yeah, you named the two
Speaker 2: really good ones that are in the wake of the abyss,
Speaker 2: and there are more.
Speaker 3: All right, let's see, Rob. Do you want to do
Speaker 3: one of these messages? In response to our series on
Speaker 3: the illusion of control?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this one comes to us from Brett Brett Wright.
Speaker 2: Senen says, Hello, stuff to blow your mind. Team. I
Speaker 2: really like your research on the illusion of control and
Speaker 2: the comparison of chance versus skill. Control is a topic
Speaker 2: I have thought deeply about and wanted to share a
Speaker 2: little with you to take your topic in a slightly
Speaker 2: different direction. Have you ever wondered how you reached a
Speaker 2: certain point in your life, your life choices, what has
Speaker 2: happened along the way, and realized that a lot of
Speaker 2: what has gotten us to a certain point we really
Speaker 2: did not have much control over. Control to me is
Speaker 2: a liability that attaches us to certain outcomes that can
Speaker 2: lead to disappointment as well as satisfaction. Personally, I've learned
Speaker 2: to just let life happen, and I have seen it
Speaker 2: lower my anxiety and improve my mental health. By not
Speaker 2: having so many expectations, I find life more enjoyable and
Speaker 2: less stressful podcast called Inner Cosmos, where the host, Professor Eagleman,
Speaker 2: discussed a similar topic on control and how the brain
Speaker 2: runs simulations about outcomes that are possible. I found it
Speaker 2: interesting because of how the brain likes to make predictions
Speaker 2: similar to the examples you guys used in chance situations,
Speaker 2: and how we like to control outcomes. Always a pleasure,
Speaker 2: have a good day, Brett.
Speaker 3: Oh, Brett, Well, we have had, as you say, Professor
Speaker 3: Eagleman on this podcast before. David Eagleman was a guest.
Speaker 3: Well when was that sometime last year?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and right as he was launching the Inner Cosmos podcast,
Speaker 2: we had him on to talk about that, and I
Speaker 2: believe he was on a year or two prior to
Speaker 2: that as well, during the height of the pandemic, podcasting
Speaker 2: from the Closet days and so forth.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so his podcast is called Inner Cosmos if
Speaker 3: you want to go check that out. But I agree
Speaker 3: that there is a lot of overlap between the idea
Speaker 3: of prediction and what we mean when we say control.
Speaker 3: Control is one of those it's one of those very
Speaker 3: tricky words. In fact, like another word that'll come up,
Speaker 3: I think in the next email we're about to discuss
Speaker 3: where it's like we think we know what we mean
Speaker 3: when we say it, but actually the closer we examine it,
Speaker 3: the more difficult it becomes, and the more it seems like,
Speaker 3: I don't know if we're really agreeing on what we
Speaker 3: mean when we use this word. But yeah, at least
Speaker 3: part of the idea of control is an action having
Speaker 3: some kind of not just physical causation connection with an outcome,
Speaker 3: but a predictable physical causation connection with an outcome. That
Speaker 3: there's like a way that you could have seen in
Speaker 3: advance that this action would result in a certain outcome,
Speaker 3: and that that seems to have a big overlap with
Speaker 3: what we think of as control.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean the bigger question here. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: really get into the quagmire of human consciousness when you
Speaker 2: start picking this apart, you know, and asking well, how
Speaker 2: much control did I ever have in reaching this point
Speaker 2: in my life? And what control was in place, what
Speaker 2: choices were made? Were those made by me or they
Speaker 2: made by some other person that I used to be
Speaker 2: And you can really get lost in all of that,
Speaker 2: and in ways that maybe doesn't reduce anxiety. Though in
Speaker 2: the end, I would say that like the idea of
Speaker 2: sort of letting go of a lot of that and
Speaker 2: living in the moment, as they say, is perhaps the
Speaker 2: better direction to go in. There's actually a great quote
Speaker 2: from Cormack McCarthy and Cities of the Plane that goes
Speaker 2: as follows. Quote, he said, a long time and he
Speaker 2: thought about his life and how little of it he
Speaker 2: could ever have foreseen, And he wondered, for all his
Speaker 2: will and all his intent, how much of it was
Speaker 2: his doing. That one has always resonated with me. So yeah,
Speaker 2: when I think about these these quagmires of consciousness, I'll
Speaker 2: often envision some sort of stoic cowboy from one of
Speaker 2: Cormick McCarthy's novels, staring off into the middle distance, trying
Speaker 2: to figure out who he is and how he got
Speaker 2: where he is, and indeed where he is going in life.
Speaker 3: Well, on a similar topic, the next message comes from Chris.
Speaker 3: Chris says Robert and Joe in response to the illusion
Speaker 3: of control. Episodes mostly focused on psychology studies of people's
Speaker 3: feeling they had control of various circumstances. Listener John's comment
Speaker 3: prompted Joe to expand the idea of quote, where's the
Speaker 3: clear evidence that my conscious will is in the driver's seat.
Speaker 3: I had been wondering if the series was headed in
Speaker 3: that direction, but it might really deserve one of your
Speaker 3: signature dives into the deep subject of free will versus determinism.
Speaker 3: Maybe you can get interviews with, or get into the
Speaker 3: writings of Daniel Dinnett, philosopher and cognitive scientist, and Sean Carroll,
Speaker 3: theoretical physicist and philosopher. Meanwhile, since your latest Weird House
Speaker 3: Cinema episode with Flash Gordon has fueled yet more of
Speaker 3: my descent into nostalgia, even though it came out only
Speaker 3: forty four years ago, I'll continue to compile a list
Speaker 3: of suggestions, including a comment or two, for future episodes.
Speaker 3: Due to my keen editing skills and overwhelming modesty, I
Speaker 3: should be able to keep it under novel length. Chris Well,
Speaker 3: thank you for the message. Chris, So, the issue of
Speaker 3: free will has come up on the show in recent years,
Speaker 3: and we have also talked about both Daniel Dinnett and
Speaker 3: Sean Carroll. That we haven't talked about Sean in the
Speaker 3: context of free will, just stuff in his main field
Speaker 3: of astrophysics and cosmology. I don't think I was aware
Speaker 3: he had extensive thoughts about free will, but I'd be
Speaker 3: interested in his thoughts. I guess I know. Daniel Dinnett
Speaker 3: has long been considered what is called a compatible list,
Speaker 3: meaning someone who believes that our behavior is wholly determined
Speaker 3: by antecedent physical causes, so that is what is sometimes
Speaker 3: called determinist position, but also believes this is fully compatible
Speaker 3: with the existence of something called free will. So it's
Speaker 3: just the belief that determinism and free will are actually
Speaker 3: not in conflict. It's been a while since I've refreshed
Speaker 3: my mind deeply on this topic, but what I've said
Speaker 3: on the show in the past is that when somebody
Speaker 3: claims that humans have free will, it's not that I
Speaker 3: think they're wrong. It's that I think the concept is
Speaker 3: poorly defined, and thus it's not even necessarily clear what
Speaker 3: they're talking about. If you want to hear a deeper
Speaker 3: discussion of this, I remember we did a big segment
Speaker 3: on free will in our episode about the Black Mirror
Speaker 3: episode Bandersnatch, actually, so you can go back and find
Speaker 3: that one. We got into a lot more detail about
Speaker 3: what philosophers have said about this, and some cognitive science
Speaker 3: and neuroscience research that might inform our opinions on it
Speaker 3: and then what our own thoughts were. But in short,
Speaker 3: I'm in to say that I have a partially kind
Speaker 3: of early Wittgenstein take on free will, which is that
Speaker 3: probably not all, but most of the debates about free
Speaker 3: will are just confusions that arise from unclear use of language.
Speaker 3: And if you could like sit everybody down and force
Speaker 3: them to be like really excruciatingly specific about exactly what
Speaker 3: they're saying, I'm not sure which disagreements would still remain
Speaker 3: after that process. I think it's one of those cases
Speaker 3: where like language and imprecise use of language is causing
Speaker 3: a ton of confusion, like what do people mean when
Speaker 3: they say free what do people mean when they talk
Speaker 3: about control? And so forth? I think people are equivocating
Speaker 3: on these terms, using them and to mean different things
Speaker 3: even though it's the same word.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that's a good point. And yeah,
Speaker 2: we've talked about this a number of times in the
Speaker 2: show in the past, and I'm sure we'll come back
Speaker 2: to it. Of course, from my that we talked about
Speaker 2: this with author R. Scott Baker at one point as well.
Speaker 2: Who I don't want to sum him up by saying
Speaker 2: that he's a determinist, but I will say that in
Speaker 2: his maybe and I just maybe I'm not remembering correctly,
Speaker 2: but I do know that in his fiction work there
Speaker 2: is certainly a determinist trend with his characters. Like most
Speaker 2: of his characters are sort of trapped and they are,
Speaker 2: you know, shackled to the darkness that comes before. And
Speaker 2: you have only certain characters who, through you know, fictional
Speaker 2: fantasy means and in one of his other books sci
Speaker 2: fi means, have sort of unshackled themselves from the past
Speaker 2: and become true free spirits in a way in their world.
Speaker 2: And then you know, what does that mean for a world?
Speaker 2: And what does that mean for a character if you
Speaker 2: actually have something like one hundred percent control over what
Speaker 2: your choices and decisions are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting playing with like variable levels of whatever
Speaker 3: your understanding of free will is in characters in fiction,
Speaker 3: and like how that would affect how we perceive them
Speaker 3: as characters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, And and ultimately he ends up landing on
Speaker 2: this model by which a character with true free will
Speaker 2: is ultimately going to be someone that is more or
Speaker 2: less than human, depending on how you look at it
Speaker 2: like they are no longer creatures that we can fully
Speaker 2: relate to. But I but Baker also is one who easily,
Speaker 2: you know, drives home that there is a lot of
Speaker 2: like illusion and self illusion going on in consciousness. And yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, even if even if we don't even if
Speaker 2: you were to say we don't have any free will,
Speaker 2: if we have the illusion of free will, well that's
Speaker 2: part of the illusion that makes life livable. That that's
Speaker 2: part of the illusion that makes up our entire world
Speaker 2: that we build around ourselves.
Speaker 3: I guess another way to articulate my position is like
Speaker 3: I it's not that I do or don't think we
Speaker 3: have free will. Uh. I guess this technically would make
Speaker 3: me some sort of compatibileist. But I don't necessarily see
Speaker 3: how it would make me any freer if there were
Speaker 3: some way in which my behavior were not influenced by
Speaker 3: preceding causes, you know, like if if I wasn't physically
Speaker 3: if my behavior were not physically determined, why would that
Speaker 3: be more free?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Like I said, you can chase your tails and
Speaker 2: circles over this one. You know what, what other choice
Speaker 2: would you make being what you are? And vice versa.
Speaker 2: It's at the end of the day. You can sort
Speaker 2: of have those moments. In my opinion, you can have
Speaker 2: those moments stand it, staring off into the end of
Speaker 2: the middle distance, having those deep cowboy thoughts. But then
Speaker 2: you got to poke the fire a little bit, right,
Speaker 2: You've got to You got to get down to some
Speaker 2: cowboy business and move on.
Speaker 3: All right. You want to do some weird house cinema messages.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it. Okay. This first one comes to
Speaker 2: us from Paul on the subject of Blacula. Paul says,
Speaker 2: it was nice to have a movie that is available
Speaker 2: on a streaming service that is easily accessible. Yes, side note,
Speaker 2: we always try and drive home to what extent a
Speaker 2: film is available for viewing. And yeah, sometimes they're a
Speaker 2: little hard to get your hands on. Sometimes it's more
Speaker 2: of a physical media search, but sometimes, as with Blacula,
Speaker 2: it's widely available in digital format anyway. Paul continues, I
Speaker 2: watched it on the one named after a rainforest in
Speaker 2: South America. That does narrow the possibilities. Many movies you
Speaker 2: recommend are difficult to find. Yes, I am reading the
Speaker 2: book Crook Manifesto by Coulson Whitehead, and a character Zippo
Speaker 2: summarizes Blacula and is inspired by it to produce direct
Speaker 2: a bl exploitation movie of his own. Thank you for
Speaker 2: merging so many areas of science culture and science fiction.
Speaker 2: I appreciate the podcast.
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, Paul. That's a cool connection. Coulson Whitehead
Speaker 3: a lot of people probably know from his twenty sixteen
Speaker 3: novel The Underground Railroad. Ah yes, okay, yeah, so thank
Speaker 3: you Paul.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: Another short message. This is from Luisa, who says, Hi,
Speaker 3: Robin Joe, I recently finished The Brother's Son series and
Speaker 3: some of the characters were watching this movie, which I
Speaker 3: thought would be would interest you for weird house Jim Katta,
Speaker 3: It's completely absurd, as she links to the wiki entry
Speaker 3: if maybe a little too violent anyway, let me know
Speaker 3: if it makes the list best regards, Luisa, I only
Speaker 3: have the vaguest awareness of this movie, but it does
Speaker 3: pique my interest.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, My interest was also recently picked on this
Speaker 2: because my wife and I also watched The Brother's Son,
Speaker 2: which is a mini series on Netflix, which is in
Speaker 2: and of itself very fun if you want to slightly
Speaker 2: comedic in places martial arts action adventure story. But yeah,
Speaker 2: there's an episode where you have some hinchmen that are
Speaker 2: setting around watching Jim Kotta getting excited about Jim Kotta,
Speaker 2: then having to explain Jim Kotta to another character, and
Speaker 2: then one of the henchmen is like, yes, it's my
Speaker 2: dream to pull off this one Jim Kotta move in
Speaker 2: an actual battle. I will not spoil it whether he
Speaker 2: does or not.
Speaker 3: So what the premise is, It's something like it's like
Speaker 3: a gymnast slash martial artist, Like his martial arts kicks
Speaker 3: and stuff are gymnast moves, like working the pommel horse
Speaker 3: and everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's definite pommel horse action in there. And the
Speaker 2: star is Kurt Thomas, who was an American Olympic gymnast,
Speaker 2: and so you know, it has a lot of things
Speaker 2: going for I've never watched it in full, but yeah,
Speaker 2: you have a non actor gymnast extraordinaire jumping in to
Speaker 2: a an action flick that is very gymnastics centric in
Speaker 2: its execution. And you have some other names there, like
Speaker 2: Conan Lee is in there. We've I think he was
Speaker 2: in The Eliminators, a film that we watched on Weird
Speaker 2: House in the past. It has just a wild following
Speaker 2: so it may be one we'll have to visit in
Speaker 2: the future.
Speaker 3: I think I've mentioned this before, but my wife Rachel
Speaker 3: is really into the Olympics. Whenever they're on, and I
Speaker 3: don't remem remember if it's summer or winter the one
Speaker 3: that has gymnastics, but whichever it is, so we sometimes
Speaker 3: end up watching some gymnastics. And I got to say,
Speaker 3: as a non sports fan, gymnastics are the most impressive
Speaker 3: sport to me. Seeing what people gymnastics is like, it's
Speaker 3: the closest thing I've ever seen to people appearing to
Speaker 3: actually have superpowers, Like you just cannot fathom how they're
Speaker 3: doing what they're doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is always exciting how some of like the
Speaker 2: really amazing moments, and of course high level gymnastics is
Speaker 2: full of NonStop amazing moments. But those those really amazing
Speaker 2: moments are also so short in length that they inevitably
Speaker 2: make it out, you know, in social media, late night television,
Speaker 2: and so forth. So even if you're not an Olympics
Speaker 2: watcher an Olympics fan, you inevitably end up seeing some
Speaker 2: of those amazing feats. And I guess sometimes film producers
Speaker 2: see them as well, and they're like We've got to
Speaker 2: get this individual in our movie, and I think we
Speaker 2: should see more of that, just in general with Olympic competitors,
Speaker 2: more b movies starring Olympians.
Speaker 3: Please, what other Olympic events could you turn into a
Speaker 3: type of martial arts? Could there be like diving martial arts?
Speaker 3: Could there be what that what's it called the beach
Speaker 3: volleyball martial arts?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely all of these are fair game, especially if
Speaker 2: the individual in question is maybe is not an experienced actor.
Speaker 2: It's completely green because there's something great about like that,
Speaker 2: you know, like the the excellence in one area crossing
Speaker 2: over into the lack of experience in the other area,
Speaker 2: which is just.
Speaker 3: You know, a prime prime zone for b sim curling katta. Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 3: thank you for the suggestion, Luisa. This this will go
Speaker 3: on the list at least for us to check out.
Speaker 3: May pop up in the future.
Speaker 2: All right, This next one comes to us from Tim.
Speaker 2: Tim says, Hey, Fellows, I was listening to the rewind
Speaker 2: episode of Weird House about scanners. You two were making
Speaker 2: some pretty understandably snarky comments about a dumb plot line
Speaker 2: around hacking through a payphone. It is an absurd thought,
Speaker 2: but I want to bring your attention to Kevin Mitnick,
Speaker 2: who is one of the country's most notorious hackers and freakers.
Speaker 2: That's with a pH if you're not familiar with the term.
Speaker 2: After finally being caught, he was left in solitary confinement
Speaker 2: for eight months because the federal prosecutor convinced the judge
Speaker 2: that Mittnick could hack into Norad by whistling into the phone.
Speaker 2: If you've not read up about Kevin Mitnick, he has
Speaker 2: some really fascinating stories and some really scary stories about
Speaker 2: social engineering his way past some pretty secure doors. He
Speaker 2: died recently, but one of his last books, called Ghost
Speaker 2: in the Wires, was my favorite. The Statute of Limitations
Speaker 2: ran out on a bunch of his Shenanigans, and so
Speaker 2: that book was a good deal less guarded. So did
Speaker 2: the Scanners influence the federal prosecutors on Mittnick's case? Was
Speaker 2: Scanners the reason they thought Kevin could do this. This
Speaker 2: movie was fourteen years old when he was sentenced. So
Speaker 2: did this movie hit the prosecutors in the formidable years
Speaker 2: of their childhood. It's a scary thought of life imitating art.
Speaker 2: Always love your stuff, Tim.
Speaker 3: Wow, I would not have made that connection but that
Speaker 3: is really good tim.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I had totally forgotten about phone freakers
Speaker 2: when we were rewatching scanners for Weird House Cinema. But yeah,
Speaker 2: now that it's been brought up, this had to have
Speaker 2: been a connection one way or another, Like that plot
Speaker 2: choice makes more sense if this is in sort of
Speaker 2: the Zeitgei story, at least, you know, in the heads
Speaker 2: of the screenwriters at the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I absolutely got whistling into the phone to hack
Speaker 3: into Nora Ad. Yeah. They thought he could, like he
Speaker 3: could like mimic the sounds of a touchtone telephone to
Speaker 3: launch nuclear weapons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and if that is at all on
Speaker 2: the table, then yeah it can. How about psyching individuals
Speaker 2: merging with computers? Why not? Why not?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I guess the question is did they really think
Speaker 3: he could do that or were they just claiming it?
Speaker 3: But one could imagine being legitimately afraid even if such
Speaker 3: a thing were not in fact possible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I have one last note here. This
Speaker 2: is in the Weird House realm. In my travels over
Speaker 2: the last week, I had a long flight out and
Speaker 2: back with my family, and so I was trying to
Speaker 2: like download some stuff to watch and see if stuff
Speaker 2: is appropriate for weird House if it's a good fit.
Speaker 2: This is one that was not a good fit, but
Speaker 2: I watched nineteen eighty six. Is the Wind. This is
Speaker 2: a Nico Masdaurakas film. This is a Greek car thriller
Speaker 2: starring Meg Foss in the lead. So you get a
Speaker 2: lot of Meg Foster and those you know, hypnotic eyes
Speaker 2: of hers, and then you have David McCallum is in it,
Speaker 2: and then you have wings Hauser playing the villain. This
Speaker 2: is from the director of that Island of Death Greek
Speaker 2: car movie that we talked about in the past, which
Speaker 2: I didn't realize until I was a good way into
Speaker 2: watching the film. The film is not worth seeking out,
Speaker 2: I will say it is unless you really are interested.
Speaker 2: It's very watchable. There's nothing really objectionable about it. If
Speaker 2: you're a big wings Hauser fan, definitely view it, you know,
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of wings Hauser being and being
Speaker 2: a crazy American in this movie. But ultimately in the end,
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't think there's enough interesting stuff
Speaker 2: going on here for weird house consideration.
Speaker 3: Is it kind of more in the Land of the
Speaker 3: Minotaur direction?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like there are lots of beautiful scenes of old
Speaker 2: Greek ruins and so forth. There's a lot of like
Speaker 2: low plotting stuff with Meg Foster's character in one of
Speaker 2: these buildings, and then uh, oh, what's wings Houser up to?
Speaker 2: Is he going to turn out to be a maniac
Speaker 2: or not? Of course he's going to turn up to
Speaker 2: be a maniac. Hired wings Hauser for the role. But
Speaker 2: it's still fun. But it's just I would say it's
Speaker 2: it's slower than I would like for a weird house
Speaker 2: cinema a selection.
Speaker 3: Well, wouldn't be our first low ride, but but yeah,
Speaker 3: I appreciate the pre screening. Yeah, all right, does that
Speaker 3: do it for today?
Speaker 2: I believe that's it. I believe we'll go ahead and
Speaker 2: close up the mail bag for today, but certainly keep
Speaker 2: them coming. Joe shared that email address at the top
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