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Speaker 1: so much for Sean. I really appreciate it. Well, Nick,

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Speaker 1: Now this clock is rough, but the amazing thing is

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Speaker 1: I'm already headed to set, I'm already handed to word.

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Speaker 1: Can you just say where you're going? Just some information

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Speaker 1: I didn't know about. What are you going off to? Well,

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Speaker 1: I am filming a show that um I will be

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Speaker 1: able to call you back about. Okay, okay with God,

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Speaker 1: let's do that. Let's do that. Let's talk about what

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Speaker 1: you you called in the day about. It's your this

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Speaker 1: summer you called me and we talked about Believe at

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Speaker 1: Home and that's that you can buy on Evin and

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Speaker 1: just do you can buy it on VI and correct, yes,

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Speaker 1: it was its betting. And so now we've expanded the

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Speaker 1: line into actual furniture art and candles for the home. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Now that's a really big leap now because you know,

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Speaker 1: you didn't add like one thing do with your furniture

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Speaker 1: artwork and candles. You know, my my partner, she just

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Speaker 1: has amazing relationships with people. We sat down and we

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Speaker 1: designed things and before you know it, because I see,

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Speaker 1: I thought we were just coming out with candles, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, to to go with the batting, and she

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Speaker 1: was like, I think we can pull off furniture and

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Speaker 1: I was like, okay, but Rashan, I wrote this down

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Speaker 1: in two thousands five that I wanted my own furniture,

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Speaker 1: my own home decor line, my own spa, and my

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Speaker 1: own line of bath and body products. So we are

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Speaker 1: on the way to fulfilling everything that I wrote years ago.

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Speaker 1: So when you say furniture, you know, because you know,

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Speaker 1: I want to get a sense of it. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about bedroom furniture or casual furniture, living room furniture, dining

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Speaker 1: room furniture. What are we talking about? So I have sofas,

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Speaker 1: so basically living room furniture. I have dining room tables

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Speaker 1: and dining room chairs and ottomans. Um we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: adding lighting fixtures because of course you need light with

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Speaker 1: all this fancy stuff that I had. Fans. I know,

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Speaker 1: ceiling fans will be coming soon. Right now, we are

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Speaker 1: focusing actually just on cool, contemporary, very styled um lighting fixtures,

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Speaker 1: modern and contemporary. That's you know, that's a lot of

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Speaker 1: people don't. First of all, I have to respect what

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Speaker 1: you're what you're doing. A lot of people don't understand

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Speaker 1: that's a lot of work, because you know, you're just

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Speaker 1: talking about materials. You're talking about did you did you

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Speaker 1: sample any of the product? Did you sit down or

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Speaker 1: lay down or you know, pull up to the table,

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Speaker 1: and you know, of course, you know you have to

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Speaker 1: sit on the stuff. You have to look at the stitch,

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Speaker 1: and you have to know who your manufacturers are. Me

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Speaker 1: and the designers. You know, we have great conversation and

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Speaker 1: then you know their school and me on things. I'm

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Speaker 1: learning so much. I love, I love. My mother had

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Speaker 1: an eye for interior design to this day she still does.

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Speaker 1: So now you know, we're taking it to the next level,

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Speaker 1: like knowing, okay, you've got the fabrics, Okay, this is

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Speaker 1: the depth and how plush something is because people want

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Speaker 1: to sit on something like I love plush stuff. And

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Speaker 1: then some people, you know, especially with everything being so

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Speaker 1: more contemporary and modern, I want you know how some

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Speaker 1: things can look so modern that it looks uncomfortable. I want, right,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to add, can we add a little comfort

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Speaker 1: to this modern? Look here and you fall asleep on

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Speaker 1: the mar Look, yes you can. And that's what we're

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Speaker 1: that's what we're trying to achieve because a lot of

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Speaker 1: people don't like traditional fluffy, but I still want something

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Speaker 1: to be comfortable. You gotta kick your man out and

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Speaker 1: he's got to sleep on that modern sofa, He'll still

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Speaker 1: be comfortable. There you go. Now that's we started with

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Speaker 1: the betting last summer. Now we just talked about furniture.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to art work. Now, this is interesting. You

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Speaker 1: decided to can artwork in How did that work to include?

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Speaker 1: We decided to include art because, like say, right now,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm furnishing my new place in Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: and I'm literally walking down the hallways like, man, a

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Speaker 1: great piece of art would be great right year, or

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Speaker 1: in the bathroom some kind of peace, you know, would

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Speaker 1: be great because you just want to make sure that

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Speaker 1: you've left no stone unturned when it comes to the

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Speaker 1: interior design of your home. Because it's really interesting. Art

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Speaker 1: plays a big role for me in my homes because

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Speaker 1: it could be just a giant art piece. It might

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Speaker 1: be a lifestyle it could be uh, you know, it

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Speaker 1: could be a sculpture, it could be just it could

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Speaker 1: be actually, your lamp could be art absolutely abs because

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Speaker 1: the base of the lamp could be so awesome. That's

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Speaker 1: a statement piece in itself. And then when I want

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Speaker 1: to encourage young people, like you know, art you know

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Speaker 1: can appreciate in value. That's exactly true. Like you have

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Speaker 1: a statement piece. You don't have to have everything in

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Speaker 1: your home to be thousands of dollars. But if you

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Speaker 1: find something and it's kind of more expensive than what

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Speaker 1: you would normally buy, I would say by it, especially,

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Speaker 1: like I said, if it's a statement piece and you know,

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Speaker 1: can appreciate in value or death, and it could be

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Speaker 1: a legacy piece, something you passed down to your children

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Speaker 1: and their children and children's children. Okay, now this is

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Speaker 1: Believe at Home by Michelle Williams. I have Michelle Williams

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Speaker 1: on the phone. We just discussed furniture, betting, artwork, and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna transition to candles. That's another addition that you've

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Speaker 1: added to Believe at Home by Michelle Willis explained the

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Speaker 1: transition that I got the candle thing. You know, romantic soothing.

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Speaker 1: You know you can set a tone in the house.

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Speaker 1: What was your reason for candles? Well, my reason for

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Speaker 1: candles too or because the essential oils that are in

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Speaker 1: the candles UM Dr Holly Cartner, who was my brand manager, UM,

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Speaker 1: she had these oils and one day I was really,

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Speaker 1: really really sick, and so she doesn't believe in all

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Speaker 1: this all this UM Pharmaceutical medicine. She literally took some oils.

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Speaker 1: It was lavender and eucalyptus and um ginger her and

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Speaker 1: you know, so she took these oils and she put

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Speaker 1: them in her hand and she rubbed them, and she

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Speaker 1: rubbed them on my neck and on my wrists. And

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Speaker 1: I remember I had to get on the plane and fly,

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Speaker 1: and I was so scared that I was going to

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Speaker 1: get more sick on the plane. But I tell you,

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Speaker 1: nothing happened. I just got well. That stuff went into

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Speaker 1: my pores and I felt so good. And I told her,

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Speaker 1: I said, Holly, what if we put these oils in candles,

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Speaker 1: Because a lot of candles they're fragrance and they have

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Speaker 1: a lot of perfuming, which does make your home smell good.

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Speaker 1: But what if you have a property in the oil

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Speaker 1: that's actually healing, that's so smart when you breathe it in. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: tell you, because you know, I'm a I'm a I'm

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Speaker 1: a glades guy, and my wife hates it. You know,

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Speaker 1: she comes, she comes to the house, she pulling them

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Speaker 1: out the wall. I guess that. But but the fact

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Speaker 1: that you have almost therapeutic candles in the standing, sir,

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Speaker 1: I got to buy this. I have to buy this now.

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Speaker 1: Now when you say therapeutic, should I used to work

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Speaker 1: therapeutic aroma therapy. Okay, cool, I this is something I

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Speaker 1: really want to investigate to the point I want to

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Speaker 1: buy because maybe they'll just stop our fight. Because I

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Speaker 1: like a like smell or like a little you know

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Speaker 1: smell in my house. You know, my wife, like I said,

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Speaker 1: she pulling those those glades out that wall like so fast.

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Speaker 1: I'm tired of this stuff you because maybe the smell

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Speaker 1: is instead of triggering her to be relaxed and not

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Speaker 1: have anxiety, maybe it's something in there that's making her

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Speaker 1: have anxiety about the glade about you know. Now, let

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Speaker 1: me tell you something. We're not going to talk about

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Speaker 1: blade because let me to a glade pluggets with those

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Speaker 1: glades candles at Christmas time. They are amazing. No no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm just talking about my experience. But you offer me something. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not telling you that because I don't want anybody

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Speaker 1: saying saying that. You know that I'm saying something absolutely

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Speaker 1: absolutely Roshan McDonald talking about the experience, you maybe let

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Speaker 1: me just stop that. You may be giving me, you're

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Speaker 1: giving me a great option that maybe create a very

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Speaker 1: happy home life for me with these are Roman cantor

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Speaker 1: these are these candles with a with a with a

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Speaker 1: with a sense of health tied to it because she

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Speaker 1: likes campus, she loves camping so and I love it

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Speaker 1: too and so so the sense that we have are

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Speaker 1: is glow and then drinks and you've got honey and

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Speaker 1: coconut rose and amber and just something very very soothing.

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Speaker 1: I'm a friend of mine. He's a retired NFL player. Um,

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Speaker 1: I got a text from him yesterday. While Leo, who

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Speaker 1: played for the Bears, he texted me yesterday because his

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Speaker 1: wife bought some candles, he says, text saying, Yo, you

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Speaker 1: got my house smelling all good? There you go. R

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Speaker 1: gonna be texting you yo, Yo, Michelle, you atout wife happy? Yes, exactly.

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Speaker 1: So I love hearing. Of course, women we're gonna love chimical.

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Speaker 1: But I also wanted to make sure that men feel

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Speaker 1: like they're included in this experience as well. Now this

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Speaker 1: is awesome. Now, so again we're talking about products that

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Speaker 1: could be purchased at evine dot com. That's E V

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Speaker 1: I D dot com betting well, yes, but actually it's

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Speaker 1: my psyche called Belief by Michelle dot Com. It's all

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Speaker 1: direct to consumer. I'm there, so yes, so go to

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Speaker 1: Believe by Michelle dot Com. Believe by Michelle dot Com

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Speaker 1: and you can. You can also go to the Instagram

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Speaker 1: page It's Believed by Michelle where we will be previewing,

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Speaker 1: UM giving you a sneak peek of new items that

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Speaker 1: are to come. Okay, Believe by Michelle dot Com and

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Speaker 1: you can go there and get the furniture. Yes, you

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Speaker 1: can order it. It's direct to you. So with Sean

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Speaker 1: McDonald will be going on Believe by Michelle dot Com

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Speaker 1: to get those candles today. And I'm not lying to you.

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Speaker 1: I have to tell you you're one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: people in the world. You're you're such an honest person

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Speaker 1: when it comes to your brand, authenticity and and it

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Speaker 1: really matter. I appreciate you. I appreciate you because me

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Speaker 1: and you sat in your office in Chicago one day.

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Speaker 1: She gave you the real You did not sugarcoat anything.

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Speaker 1: So I love everything that you're doing. And UM, I

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Speaker 1: hope to check down and talk with you some more

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Speaker 1: in person. Every now and then you need a pep

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Speaker 1: talk from somebody that's gonna keep it absolutely one hundred.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. We talk soon. We'll be right

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Speaker 1: back with more from ras Sean McDonald. The money making conversations.

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Speaker 1: Don't touch that down. My next guest, well, I didn't

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Speaker 1: even say who I was about to introduce my next

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Speaker 1: I just rus Sean McDonald. You're listening to money making

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Speaker 1: conversation now. My next guest is a well respected former

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Speaker 1: NBA standout at the small forward position, and now he

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Speaker 1: has transitioned to the role of the successful entrepreneur and

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Speaker 1: career counselor for the National Basketball Players Association. Please work

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Speaker 1: with the money making conversations. Long time Bobby Simmons, Hey,

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Speaker 1: how's it going. Hey my my My my floor mate

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Speaker 1: in l A. They were on the same floor. But man,

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Speaker 1: Bob has been down the hall a long time. Hey man,

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Speaker 1: you look good, you sound good. Man. Tell tell me

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Speaker 1: what you into right now? Bobby, Well, you know Rashaun.

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Speaker 1: One thing is that right now? Position at the NBA

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Speaker 1: Players Association as a career development counselor. Um upon that. Um,

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Speaker 1: that's my day to day. UM. I'm also entrepreneur. I'm

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Speaker 1: in my tenth year. Congratulate my sneaker business. Um. My

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Speaker 1: story is in Chicago. UM, it's called Success in the

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Speaker 1: South Loop UM. As well as I own another space

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Speaker 1: and entertainment space. UM it's called Society in Chicago as well.

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Speaker 1: And then other than that, just a real estate investment. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I've been watching The Shot on No Time,

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Speaker 1: which has been an amazing show to watch if anybody

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Speaker 1: have not watched it called The Shot. So my my

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Speaker 1: living in Chicago for four years, I got a strong

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Speaker 1: Chicago vibe. So when you start talking about what you're doing,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about first the career counselor because I

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Speaker 1: think that's really important because you basically dealing with the

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Speaker 1: transition period for a lot of athletes from the NBA

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Speaker 1: pro career to civilian life. Is that correct? That's correct?

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Speaker 1: And how does that? How does that handled? How's that handled? Bobby? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think it's kind of tighten that we actually have

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Speaker 1: a great team of people are former players who was

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Speaker 1: actually UM on the team and therefore worked very hard

648
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Speaker 1: and creating programming, UM basically setting the guys up to

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Speaker 1: understand what that really looks like UM pre and post

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Speaker 1: career for a lot of guys, one being rookies and

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Speaker 1: other amen veterans who are interested in certain fields that um,

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Speaker 1: they're looking to get into. So um you look at it,

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00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: um from the scheme of thing, it's basically preparing the guys,

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Speaker 1: you know, for preparing them, because one thing about it

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Speaker 1: is that if you get hurt injured, you're not able

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Speaker 1: to play. That transition starts instantly. So that's that's the makeup.

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Speaker 1: That's really the makeup. And basically being hands on and

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Speaker 1: basically working with the players whenever needed. That's really important

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Speaker 1: because of the fact that when you're an athlete and

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Speaker 1: you basically have been you know, coach in middle school,

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Speaker 1: high school, college and pro, when you go out into

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Speaker 1: the real world, there's no more coaching, and basically that's

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Speaker 1: the key transition. You guys trying to get these guys

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Speaker 1: to understand that basically it's like when you graduate. When

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Speaker 1: in high school, basically they're just helping you through high school.

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Speaker 1: When you go to college, they don't help you in

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Speaker 1: college no more. You're gonna get your degree, or you're

668
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: gonna drop out, or you're gonna fail. And that's what

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Speaker 1: that's what life is basically for any pro athlete. And

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Speaker 1: it's great that the NBA is understanding that creating an

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Speaker 1: opportunity through experienced players like yourself. Which I love about you, Bobby,

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Speaker 1: is that you've always had the entrepreneurial spirit and now

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Speaker 1: the fact that you can for so examples that it

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Speaker 1: works for you too with your with your sneaker brand.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit more about that. It's spill

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Speaker 1: is you c C e z z success. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: about that boutique and apparel. Well, the success it basically

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Speaker 1: started UM actually as a part of my transition. So

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Speaker 1: actually when I left that, when I left l A

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Speaker 1: UM to UM go to Milwaukee my MAX deal. In

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee UM first year, we made the playoffs. Second year,

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Speaker 1: I got injured, remember, and basically from that injury, I

683
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: was told that I wasn't gonna ever play basketball again

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Speaker 1: due to the fact that they didn't understand the injury.

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Speaker 1: They didn't understand what the symptoms would be like, and

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Speaker 1: I had to go see multiple doctors in order to

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Speaker 1: to get the results of actually what was on. So

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking that, Okay, well it may be something minor

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Speaker 1: because I really didn't didn't do something drastic to in

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Speaker 1: my career. But unfortunately UM, I was out over eleven months.

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Speaker 1: So by me being eleven months, I was thinking like, okay,

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Speaker 1: well if I'm not able to play, what is something

693
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Speaker 1: that I'm interested? And yeah, what's next? So fortunate enough,

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Speaker 1: like you said, I was drifting to the Washington Wizards,

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Speaker 1: had opportunity opportunity to play with Michael Jordan's um his

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Speaker 1: last two years, and I had an opportunity to have

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Speaker 1: conversations with him. I had an opportunity to be around

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Speaker 1: him my whole life, and one it was bigger than basketball.

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Speaker 1: He was also a businessman. So I took that apply

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Speaker 1: myself to figure out, okay, well, from the things that

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Speaker 1: I've gained, the knowledge I've learned, how can I apply

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Speaker 1: that to my life? Being a Brand Jordan athlete, it

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Speaker 1: allowed me to understand the sneaker culture and what it

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Speaker 1: was turning into. So in the summer, h well, John Um,

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Speaker 1: about eight um, I opened my first boutique and like

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Speaker 1: you said, now it's ten years existing. And that's a blessing.

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Speaker 1: It's a blessing but also of foresight because like I said,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people understand when you get around because

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, you turned them into a mentor for you,

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Speaker 1: and and that and that that allows you to see

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Speaker 1: the upside, and a lot of people don't understand that because,

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Speaker 1: you know, the the interesting thing about this was way

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Speaker 1: before you got injured, you know, so you was thinking

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Speaker 1: about Okay, Michael Jordan, who was now a billionaire, So

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Speaker 1: obviously you saw something early on because he was still

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Speaker 1: playing in the NBA his last two years at what

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Speaker 1: the Washington Wizards. So when you when you look at

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Speaker 1: athletes and you try to make them understand it's gonna end.

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Speaker 1: Understand that what is the big seal point that you

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Speaker 1: try to get them understand. Prepare now because preparing when

721
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: it when it's all over, it really it's too late.

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Speaker 1: It really is too late. And I think, um, this

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Speaker 1: is how we have some of the issues that guy's face. Um,

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Speaker 1: not looking at it from the perspective of that day

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Speaker 1: is going to come because a lot of time when

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Speaker 1: it does happen is unexpectedly, and um, from the business

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Speaker 1: side of basketball. I think overall the guys, like you said,

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Speaker 1: they've been doing it since their whole life. As every kid,

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Speaker 1: they never they never thought about doing anything else. And

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Speaker 1: so now it's just a matter of going back to

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Speaker 1: the drawing board and understanding, Okay, what else am I

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Speaker 1: good at? What else is my interesting and what is

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Speaker 1: my passion? And from my perspective as a current development

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Speaker 1: counselor well, I always talk to the guys from a

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Speaker 1: player's perspective because when I've been there. Now, this is

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Speaker 1: some of the things that I have done, and I

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Speaker 1: can talk from my experiences from playing some of the

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Speaker 1: days that I did did not want to want to

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Speaker 1: get up, but ye Andrey, yeah, of course. But then

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Speaker 1: one thing about it is that I'm so passing about

741
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Speaker 1: it is that one as a player, you're never going

742
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: to take no fun answer. So if there's anything in

743
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: life that makes you get up and want to do

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Speaker 1: something so badly that regardless to be sick or anything else,

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00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna get up and get to get there to

746
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: get it done, that's something that you should be interested in.

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00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 1: That's something that you should be pursuing as the next career.

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Speaker 1: Now let's talk about the foundation, because a lot of

749
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Speaker 1: people need to understand that there's a balance in life

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Speaker 1: that you you can be an entrepreneur gain success. It's

751
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: always got you gotta make sure that community right and

752
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: you've had the foundation in places two thousand five. Please

753
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: tell everybody about that foundation. But my foundation, um basically

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00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: like you said, the family first. UM, I think, Um,

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00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 1: besides that, like you said, just just doing your due

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00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: diligence and doing your duties, UM, basically for helping others

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00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: and something that I'm also passionate about. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that that's something that from what the way

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00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 1: I grew up, my mom and my grandparents are still

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Speaker 1: that in me. Is that Listen, you have to take

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00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: care of of the people who's not fortunate. But at

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00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: the same time, these are the people that always have

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Speaker 1: you back. And UM, that's been my motto since they won. Um.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, I went to elementary school, high school,

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Speaker 1: college in Chicago. Thing I did. Yeah, the only thing

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00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,479
Speaker 1: I didn't do is played. I almost played for the Bulls,

767
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: but I didn't get an opportunity too. You were close Milwaukee,

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00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: Now you were close. Now yeah, I was very close.

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Speaker 1: So but at the end of the day, like you said, UM,

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00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: I see guys like Jabari's in Milwaukee, then you have

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00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: their grows that played in Chicago. He's at hometown hometown heroes.

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Speaker 1: And like you said, my thing is that I love

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Speaker 1: the kids. I love the kids in our community and

774
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: sometimes they just need an outlet. And thatfore that's why

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00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: I used myself in the scope of the things that

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00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm doing now and the things that I've done before,

777
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: and having that foundation and sharing my stories with these

778
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: kids is something that I love to do and I'm

779
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: passionate about because now you never know who's gonna be

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00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: the next Derrick Worlds at j Bari Parker. You also

781
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: also with the with your tremendous amount of street violence

782
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: that that that's played out in the in the Chicago area,

783
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: it really really makes your job and your opportunity that

784
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: you that you're doing with your foundation even more important. Correct. Correct,

785
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: It's very important because now you've got to think about it.

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Speaker 1: Um want not having domin front. At DePaul University, I

787
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: sponsored tend scholarships a year non athletic. No. This is

788
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Speaker 1: something that I always talk to the kids about. Is

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Speaker 1: that Listen, it's one in a million for a kids

790
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: to make it to the NBA. You have to be

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Speaker 1: a special kid, I say, But there's no reason that

792
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: you can't use sports as an avenue to get to

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00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: where you want to get to. I said, because it's

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Speaker 1: players on the teams. Everybody can be the start but

795
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: sometimes you can outwork somebody and become the starter because

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00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: you have will you have you don't have perseverance, you

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00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: have the fighting. You just say that, Listen, I can

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00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: be better. Some people are content with just being good,

799
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 1: but those that fight through it, they have the opportunity.

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Speaker 1: They want to be great, and those are NBA players.

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Speaker 1: My man, Bobby, thank you for calling in on the show.

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00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: You know you gotta call back because we had me

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Speaker 1: We just kind of like got started. I need to

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00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: put you down for two breaks because you know, man,

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00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: you're great individual and uh you know entrepreneur. You're changing

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00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: lives both on the court, off the court in the community.

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Speaker 1: I'm on the phone with Bobby Simmons, is my man,

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Speaker 1: straight out of Chicago. You keep winning. We're gonna talk soon, Bobby.

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Speaker 1: West Memphis, Arkansas. They got some bobbecue stands up in

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Speaker 1: West Memphis, Arkansas. She's here today to talk about her

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Speaker 1: new book, You Will Win, Inspirational Strategies to help you overcome.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money Making Conversations to Kalin Carr. How

853
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Speaker 1: are you doing ill? How are you pretty okay? First

854
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 1: of all, listen to everybody know you're twenty years old.

855
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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that it's the bad thing because

856
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Speaker 1: I got right after the interview is gonna follow Aarrton Gavin.

857
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Speaker 1: He's only twenty three years old. And so this is

858
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Speaker 1: my like, my my little millennial run, you know, this

859
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Speaker 1: little run of people who got it real early because

860
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Speaker 1: in college, I'll tell you, twenty years old, I had

861
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Speaker 1: a lot of great ideas. I couldn't hardly put it

862
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Speaker 1: on paper, but I just didn't know a twenty tw

863
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Speaker 1: years ago. I gotta ask you this, what made you?

864
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: I know because read about your parents, But what made

865
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Speaker 1: you have a clear understanding that you had a path

866
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Speaker 1: that you can write a book that will inspire people?

867
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Speaker 1: You know what? I knew that one day I would

868
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Speaker 1: write a book, um and I do didn't know that

869
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Speaker 1: You Will Win would be my first one. And so

870
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: actually the push and the motivation behind the book was

871
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: I traveled the world and I begin to hear people

872
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: tell me their situations and things that was going on

873
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Speaker 1: in their lives and the things as though they were

874
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Speaker 1: allowing their situations to win over them when it's supposed

875
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Speaker 1: to be the other way around. And so, um, I

876
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: just wanted to know what what what is it that

877
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Speaker 1: Jaqualin Carr is supposed to release to the world and

878
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Speaker 1: help them get back up again. And the message came,

879
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: and you will win, just really challenging people to tap

880
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: into the champion on the inside of them, helping them

881
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: understand that you don't have to become a winner. You

882
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: was born a winner. All you have to do is

883
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 1: tap into that champion and unleash the champions from out

884
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Speaker 1: of you. And sometimes it takes you get connected to

885
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Speaker 1: some champions so that they can challenge you and pull

886
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Speaker 1: the best out of you and not the worst. Because

887
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Speaker 1: if all you are around is defeating people, you're around

888
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: is all you see is seekness and and and poverty

889
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: and just lack, that's what that's gonna rub up on

890
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: your life as well. But when you make up in

891
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: your mind that you want to win and you want

892
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 1: to succeed, you got to break from that and get

893
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: around some people that can really push you into that

894
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 1: great that place of greatness because you were designed to

895
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Speaker 1: win and overcoming life. And so that's just a message

896
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 1: in general, and the motivation behind the message you will

897
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: win getting people to see themselves as champions the way

898
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Speaker 1: that they were created to live as. Now, the note

899
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Speaker 1: on that is that you was talking about people constantly

900
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Speaker 1: see allowed defeat are dark moments, are failures? Are fears? Now,

901
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: because you've been speaking since you're ten, you're twenty, over

902
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: a decade, you're now you just start talking now. You

903
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: can tell by your opening speech. You know, I just

904
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Speaker 1: shut up when I'm not interrupted that she paused because

905
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: you can talk. Girl was passed the play in my

906
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: radio booth. You know, the beauty of what I'm saying

907
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: that to you is that you articulating because you've traveled

908
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: a lot, and you've been able to hear people because

909
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: you're you know, you're in a motivational world and and

910
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: and and and also the gospel or the other the

911
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: church world that's a lot of sadness, tends to tend

912
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: to be a major story to be told. How can

913
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: you help me? You know, how can I get me?

914
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: It's God here in my prayers too, and and it's

915
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: really about you talking about look inside yourself and stop

916
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: allowing I won't use the word excuse because I want

917
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to insult anybody, but but don't allow

918
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,479
Speaker 1: yourself to fail when guess what if you just start

919
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: putting the plan in place, and that's what you win.

920
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: It's all about and that's what I found and it's

921
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Speaker 1: found on that a little bit, the plan, the plan

922
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Speaker 1: that you then when you put this book together, because

923
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Speaker 1: it's it's articulating, you have all you have a model

924
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Speaker 1: years old. You put together a model of winning, a

925
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: model of victory. For anybody who reached this book, you

926
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: know absolutely. And I think that the root of that

927
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: problem is a lot of times when we try and

928
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: we start to plan, we start to work on our

929
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Speaker 1: visions and our goals, and we sailed over and over again,

930
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Speaker 1: and people feel like, well because I failed before, you know,

931
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 1: just to me doing it again. But even in the book,

932
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 1: I help you to understand that the point the problem

933
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: is not in your failing. The problem is in you

934
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 1: not trying. And what we have to understand is that

935
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Speaker 1: everybody is not going to get it on the first try,

936
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Speaker 1: second try, third try, fourth try. You know, some people

937
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: it takes a minute, but as long as you continue

938
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: to work, it's all about being consistent and persistent. But

939
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: in order for you to be consistent and persistent, you

940
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: have to believe in yourself. You know, you have to

941
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: believe in yourself that it doesn't matter how many knows

942
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: you here, It doesn't matter how many you can't accomplish

943
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: this because no one else in your family accomplished this.

944
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: You come from this type of community, this type of neighborhood.

945
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: Your path look like this. But when you believe in

946
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: yourself enough to want to push beyond all of that negativity,

947
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: you will continue to work. You'll continue to plan and

948
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: keep pushing until you reach your finish line. And and

949
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: in my book, I explained that as having a winning attitude,

950
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: you know it doesn't matter what you see and defeat

951
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: maybe all around you. And one thing you have to

952
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: understand too, is that you can't do nothing about your past.

953
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: You can't do anything about how many times you've been

954
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: defeated in your past, but you can do something about

955
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: now and moving forward to make up in your mind

956
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: that I will never be defeated again. Every day is

957
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: not gonna be all sunshiny and all of that. But

958
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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I'm not going to

959
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: allow my cloudiness and my rain interfere with my working

960
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: at my plan. Why because I believe in myself enough

961
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: to know that I'm going to win. It's to really

962
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 1: I want to point out a couple of things in there,

963
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: because she broke everythings and principles and in her chapters

964
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Speaker 1: and the un the intentional victory she was in this lane.

965
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: I want to build up defining a win, and I

966
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: would just defining the win. It's really really key because

967
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 1: a lot of people they it's a win. A win

968
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 1: is you know, dropping a loser friend who's holding you back,

969
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: you know, dropping a bad boyfriend, our girlfriend, okay, uh,

970
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: getting a divorce sometimes that that that situation need, that's

971
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: that's a win. You know. You know, a win is

972
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: you know, it's not all about paying off your dad.

973
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's now you know, it's if you're a job

974
00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: that you don't want to be in anymore, you just

975
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: keep going to find The win is putting the application

976
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: someplace else. Absolutely, and that is very imperative to your

977
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: winning journey. Um and and and really a lot of

978
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 1: us were winning and we don't even know we're winning

979
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: because a lot of times weekend we failed because we

980
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 1: compare our wins to natural circumstances such as games and

981
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 1: events and awards and all of these different things. But

982
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 1: what you have to understand is that in a game,

983
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: only one team can win. But when you are doing

984
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: what you're supposed to be doing and and doing the

985
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: right thing and working on your dreams and goals, you

986
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: win every day. Whether it be you getting your piece back,

987
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: you starting back to right right your dreams, and you

988
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: getting up. You know a lot of many people hadn't

989
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: got out of bed, out of bed and and you know,

990
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: in a long time. But to actually get up again,

991
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 1: you know, and just become inner, job that feel good

992
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: about yourself, Uh, you know, those are win. So I

993
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 1: told people it's very important that you don't look the

994
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: things that you are accomplishing, whether they're small or great,

995
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, if you're winning,

996
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: you're just winning. It doesn't matter where you're winning in

997
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: as long as you're winning. And that's why it's important

998
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 1: that I wanted to point out that sometimes people tied,

999
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: you know, tie went into big moments and They're simple moments.

1000
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: You know that if you look at your you know,

1001
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 1: cleaning out your your house, cleaning out your girls, those

1002
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: are winds. Those are winds. You know, cutting your grass,

1003
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: that's a wind. Just do it consistently. Just do it consistently,

1004
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 1: because I want to talk about celebrating the wins something

1005
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: I didn't understand and I'm doing it a lot more now.

1006
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: When we come back more with Jaqualin car Wow, girl,

1007
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: we are uplifting up here today or money Making Conversations,

1008
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more from mar Sean McDonald

1009
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 1: and money Making Conversations. Don't touch that dot. Hi, this

1010
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: is Rashan McDonald. I'm hosting our money Making Conversations on

1011
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: the phone. Is Jaqualin car Um. She's really inspiring everybody

1012
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: in this book and hopefully she's inspiring every listener of

1013
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 1: your own. There's watching Money Making Conversations on my Facebook page.

1014
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: More importantly our Heart Radio podcasts as well. Her first book,

1015
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: You Will Win, Inspirational Strategies to help you Overcome. It

1016
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: came out of February twinty. I bought the book on Amazon,

1017
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: so you can go on Amazon right now and you

1018
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: can buy this book to Kalin Carr, Uh, you will win,

1019
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: just typing you will win, inspirational strategies to help you overcome.

1020
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: Now when well, when I before the break, we was

1021
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: talking about defining the win, and I wanted to get

1022
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: a little thing, a little statement about myself, Uh, the

1023
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: celebrator win, which is really important, and I pulled that

1024
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: out of your book. And everything we're talking about is

1025
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: in your book. And it's important that people understand that

1026
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: we're not adding any extraverbage here. She has a plan

1027
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: in place that will help you win short term and

1028
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: long term. Her key is don't look at your path us.

1029
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: Don't look you can't change your past. You look at

1030
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: your present and your future, and you can. You can

1031
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: affect all those things and defining the win. And we're

1032
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: standing on that a little bit longer than our than

1033
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: we will normally, because if you don't understand how to start,

1034
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: then you won't ever make it to the middle part

1035
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: of success, nor will you accomplish your goals. And we

1036
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: talked about defining the win. Celebrating the win is something

1037
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: I never did. Whether it was a new television show

1038
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 1: or soldier concert or winning an Emmy, I just put

1039
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: it on the shelf and moved on. That's a mistake.

1040
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: You really have to understand that what you've accomplished has

1041
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,439
Speaker 1: value and that way you appreciate and you slow down

1042
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: for a moment to to to to reset and and

1043
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: and that's something I didn't do. And so explain to

1044
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: everybody why celebrating the win it's very important because I

1045
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: understand it now. To Klin, yes, you know one thing

1046
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: that we I've learned within my journey is that um,

1047
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: of course we're supposed to work and we we we

1048
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: do what we're supposed to do concerning your dreams and

1049
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: where you want to be in life. But if you

1050
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: never take that moment and that time to step back

1051
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: and celebrate the things that you have accomplished thus far,

1052
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: it is hard for you to have that drive and

1053
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: that motivation and that push to want to do even more.

1054
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: And so what this does is it's also another form

1055
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: of balancing. You know, we hear people say when it's

1056
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: time to work, you work, and when it's time to play,

1057
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: you play. And so many times people feel like, um,

1058
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: you know, it's wrong for you to celebrate, but no,

1059
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: it is okay for you to step back because remember

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Speaker 1: you hadn't always been where you are now, and so

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Speaker 1: you want to when you whenever you can look back

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Speaker 1: and see that you've come a long way, you know

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Speaker 1: that's a tremendous us accomplishment, and you have to take

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Speaker 1: that moment to celebrate because again, when you step back

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Speaker 1: and you celebrate, it gives you that push to want

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Speaker 1: to say, oh, and since I did that, I know

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Speaker 1: I can do this. Since I did this, I know

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Speaker 1: I can accomplish that. So that's why it is important

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Speaker 1: that you celebrate the things that you have accomplished us

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Speaker 1: far and to remembering that it is a form of

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Speaker 1: balancing as well. Wow. Now you have two favorite chapters

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Speaker 1: that I want to talk about UH as principle with

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Speaker 1: each chapter called a principle. Principle of three is Structures

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Speaker 1: to Win. Tell me why that that that that chapter

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Speaker 1: Structures to Win stands out to you? Yes? Yes, in

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Speaker 1: this chapter I teach us different several things. And one

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Speaker 1: of the things that I told you is to expand

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Speaker 1: your thinking, because if you never think beyond where you are,

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Speaker 1: you can never go beyond where you are. And so

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Speaker 1: many times a lot of us we are held back

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Speaker 1: due to our limited mindset. But when you can look

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Speaker 1: beyond your current circumstances, look beyond your age, look beyond

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Speaker 1: where you come from, and begin to see your potential

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Speaker 1: and how far you can actually go in life. That's

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Speaker 1: when you will begin to start accomplishing things. After you

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Speaker 1: believe in yourself, of course, but it starts that you

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Speaker 1: change in your mindset. You it is impossible for you

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Speaker 1: to win. It is impossible for you to be successful

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Speaker 1: if people have a successful mindset. If you don't have

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Speaker 1: a winning thought process, you know, and again sometimes it

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Speaker 1: takes you because everybody doesn't know this. Everybody wasn't taught

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Speaker 1: how to think winning and think success. So sometimes it

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Speaker 1: helps when you can get some inspirational messages in your

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Speaker 1: ears from different motivational speakers, or if you can write

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Speaker 1: down your vision, your goal or whatever it is that

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Speaker 1: you want to be your accomplishing life on different little

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Speaker 1: uh sticky notes and put them around your house, put

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Speaker 1: on your mirror, on your refrigerator dashboard. That way, every

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Speaker 1: time you turn around, that's what you see, and you

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Speaker 1: have no other choice but to think yourself into that

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Speaker 1: place of success. And then, of course I talk about focusing.

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Speaker 1: There's so much negativity that will come to you on

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Speaker 1: your journey to win, but at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: you cannot allow that to blindside you because listen, people

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Speaker 1: are going to talk and negativity is gonna happen whether

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Speaker 1: you're doing bad or doing good, So it's best for

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Speaker 1: them to talk while you're doing good. If you want

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Speaker 1: to thank her that you continue to stay focused on

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Speaker 1: your assignment and your dreams and what it is that

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Speaker 1: you are desired to accomplish in life and don't allow

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Speaker 1: that to set you back. You don't have to respond

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Speaker 1: to every negative thing that has been thing that has

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Speaker 1: been said about you or to you, but you have

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Speaker 1: to learn how to push beyond that and don't allow

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Speaker 1: it to make you sit down, but let it catapult

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Speaker 1: you to want to be either more successful in life.

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Speaker 1: That is thinking, think success. That's important that she's saying.

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Speaker 1: She's trying to get your mindset to understand that you

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Speaker 1: have to if you want to be successful, you have

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Speaker 1: to think it's successful. You just can't. It's just something

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Speaker 1: you just don't wake up. It's it's a process. And

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Speaker 1: more importantly, the word expand because if you're standing a

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Speaker 1: little small box, then you won't see other opportunities nor

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Speaker 1: will you. And that's that that box of fear, because

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Speaker 1: that box of fear is powerful because so many people

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Speaker 1: aren't doing things in life because they fear change. Now,

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Speaker 1: one of your other great chapters that you wanted to

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Speaker 1: at least communicate on before we wrapped up this interview

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Speaker 1: was Patients to Win. Yes, Patients to Win is just

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Speaker 1: talking about when you look upon successful people and you

1131
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 1: see the results, you see where they are now, but

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Speaker 1: you never see what they had to go through and

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Speaker 1: the patients they had to have in order to endure

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Speaker 1: what they had to go through. And so with all

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Speaker 1: of that being said, we must understand that any time

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Speaker 1: you desire to be successful and win in life, there

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Speaker 1: are certain things that we have to go through. It

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Speaker 1: is only processing us and equipping us for our place

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Speaker 1: of greatness because when we get there, we want to

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Speaker 1: know how to handle our success because so many people

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Speaker 1: they they access to success, but they lose that place.

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Speaker 1: And so what the process does is it teaches you

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Speaker 1: how to appreciate it more, how to treat people, how

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Speaker 1: to you know, uh, love on others. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: how much greatness you obtain, it is important that you

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01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: treat people with respect. Because when you give respect, you

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01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 1: gain respect. And so that's what it's all about, just

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Speaker 1: helping you to understand that you have to go through

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Speaker 1: in order for you to be able to appreciate your

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Speaker 1: place of success. Now I want to I want to

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Speaker 1: close the interview out with what I when I found

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Speaker 1: was pretty profound, the twelve twelve Habits for for Win

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Speaker 1: that's in this book. And there's so much more in

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Speaker 1: this book that were just But like I said, she's

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Speaker 1: defining your your your starting line. I want to say that,

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Speaker 1: and and it's understanding that you have to define you.

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01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: When you have to gain structure, you have to be

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Speaker 1: patient because it's not gonna happen overnight. But she in

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Speaker 1: twelve Habits for a Win Number one, start each day

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Speaker 1: with a prayer. Number two, challenge yourself to work on

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Speaker 1: your vision. It was a little sticky though. She was

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Speaker 1: talking about let your let your thoughts to be positive,

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Speaker 1: don't let negative win, don't let fear win. Release words

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Speaker 1: that counsel negativity. Come on, now, these words that council

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna win. How about that I can I can win? Two?

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Speaker 1: Those are words of council negativity. Get out my life.

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Speaker 1: You're a loser. I'm tying ty. Are you telling me

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Speaker 1: I'm stupid? I can win too. Align your words with

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Speaker 1: the vision like live a balanced life. Let your words

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Speaker 1: transform atmospheres. Keep it winning attitude. Speak the good things

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Speaker 1: that you want to happen. Release words that will bring life.

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Speaker 1: Let your words cause a good vibration and understand the

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Speaker 1: effect your words have to kalin Um. I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 1: you um, I am a fan. Um. We will be

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Speaker 1: running this on podcast many times. We're gonna send this

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Speaker 1: to you. Your your your word, not just your word,

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Speaker 1: but your maturity. You're clear understanding that this is not

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Speaker 1: something that you know you thought about last week. This

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Speaker 1: is a lifestyle. This is a mission to get people

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to be successful. And you've been fortunate and

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Speaker 1: we've been blessed that you put it in words and

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Speaker 1: I can I bring you back on the show. I

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Speaker 1: gotta bring you back soon. So we keep winning. We

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Speaker 1: have more money making conversation coming up. This has been

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Speaker 1: from mars Sean McDonald the Money Making Conversations. Don't touch

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Speaker 1: that down. Hi, this is Roshan McDon We're back money

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Speaker 1: Making Conversation, UM, the dynamic host of money Making Conversation.

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Speaker 1: My next guest is also dynamic. He's the CEO of

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Speaker 1: Rugged Evolution Incorporated. His company is committed to providing their

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Speaker 1: patrons with handmade products that have all natural ingredients. Whether

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Speaker 1: you are a goateee, shadow or full beard, their land

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Speaker 1: of product will enhance all types of hair. Please, welcome

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Speaker 1: to money Making Conversations. Arrington Gavin. I don't I'm good

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Speaker 1: that dynamic. You gotta be dynamic man. You're twenty three

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Speaker 1: year old, twenty three years old, you started your own company,

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Speaker 1: just got out of college. How could I not use

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Speaker 1: the word dynamic? Gold Millennial now you know, because you

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Speaker 1: know millennials have taken on the mantel eighteen to thirty four,

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Speaker 1: that that is the entrepreneurship generation. And I got on

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Speaker 1: the phone on the phone and doing this of you.

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Speaker 1: It's a young man. He's the CEO of Rugged Evolution,

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Speaker 1: and what they what he deals with. It is bearded

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Speaker 1: hair care products. Correct, yes, sir. Now let me ask

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Speaker 1: you the question. I noticed you said when you said

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Speaker 1: that rugged evolution products will enhance all types of hair?

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Speaker 1: What do you mean when you say that? Because I'm

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Speaker 1: African American male and you're an African American male, what

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Speaker 1: do you mean when you say all types of hair,

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Speaker 1: all hair purpences, soft, soft hair, course hair. You know,

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Speaker 1: we have a black community, the Caucasian Latinos will all

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Speaker 1: have different hair, you know, hair prefaces, different hair types

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Speaker 1: and certain because I want to I want people to

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Speaker 1: understand that because of the fact that you know, because

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Speaker 1: because people can assume, you know, you're going to certain

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Speaker 1: barbershops and they think that just because they have a

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Speaker 1: black barbered, black barbecue cut the white person's hair or

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Speaker 1: white barbercae cut the black person's hair, and obviolutely made

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Speaker 1: everybody knowing his interview that we're doing is that Yes

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Speaker 1: you are the CEO, Yes you are twenty three, but

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Speaker 1: you are small enough to create a product that can

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Speaker 1: be used by Latino who have beards or goatee or

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Speaker 1: shadows or winning this type of a full beard like

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Speaker 1: you know, James Harden the beard. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: beard like you're sewing McDonald because the thing about I

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Speaker 1: have been using your products. Okay, I just let you

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Speaker 1: know I love that after hours and when I put

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Speaker 1: it on my beard, it makes it shiny, but it

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Speaker 1: doesn't make it sticky. So so tell me, tell me,

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Speaker 1: how did you guys, you know, not to trying to

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Speaker 1: give away any chemical secrets, how did you guys perfect that?

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Speaker 1: Or how did you guys sit down and go through

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Speaker 1: the trial and era or being able to create a

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Speaker 1: product that brought made my beard soft, made this gleam,

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Speaker 1: as they say, But you know I could, I could

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Speaker 1: rub up against somebody's clothes and I won't leave in

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Speaker 1: the evidence that I rubbed up against someone. Hum, So

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Speaker 1: how did you come up with that? Honestly? Ms? McDonald

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Speaker 1: friends and family. UH grabbed a couple of my buddies

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Speaker 1: and you know, some of my cousins, and I said, hey,

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Speaker 1: look um, starting a new uh product. What do you

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Speaker 1: think about it? You know, I know a lot of

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Speaker 1: them are uh the sport beards and all different, you know,

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Speaker 1: different types of whether it's a you know, four inch length,

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Speaker 1: you know, goatee and you know they basically tested on

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Speaker 1: them and then just so so now so you tested

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Speaker 1: on them. And it's really interesting because you you in

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Speaker 1: your bio you said that bears are favorite, are favored

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Speaker 1: by the millennial generation. Absolutely, yes, sir, yes, sir. Now,

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Speaker 1: when I was coming up with well, you can say,

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Speaker 1: uh huh oh no, I was gonna say. What I

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Speaker 1: mean by dad is just because of you know, the

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Speaker 1: millennials were we want we want the freedom. You know,

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Speaker 1: we're big on the freedom. So you know we're open up.

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Speaker 1: You know the newer looks. You know, you know newer

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Speaker 1: looks during this time, and you know society and stuff. Now,

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Speaker 1: the thing about it is when I was coming up,

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Speaker 1: you know, Michael Jordan's cut his half and the ball

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Speaker 1: look took over. You know, it took over all. Everybody,

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Speaker 1: even white guys, said hey, I can support that. I

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Speaker 1: got rock a ball head. I can rock it onion.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And so so now and

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Speaker 1: so now you know, you know, now you know you

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Speaker 1: you you got James Beard, James Harden out there. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I remember James Harden first came in the league.

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01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 1: People kind of laughed a little bit at that that

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01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 1: that beard, you know, but now it's it's a he's

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01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 1: a marketing genius. You know, it's called field the beard.

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01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 1: How do you are smart millennial man take advantage of that?

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01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: You know? How do I take advantage of it? Simple?

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01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 1: I just usually, uh, you know, I look at it

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01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 1: almost like a let me see it. I almost look

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01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 1: at it like okay, uh, strong tough you know, of course,

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01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 1: developing into a managable and smooth you know, that's how

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01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 1: you know, for example, I brought I thought of rugged

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01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 1: is the new smooth? You know you have a strong Yeah,

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01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 1: you have strong tough you know, that rugged look, and

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01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:02,719
Speaker 1: then the course developed developing into something manageable and smooth.

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Speaker 1: So you know that's all. That's all easily you don't

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01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 1: think of it. Let me ask you this now because

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01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,759
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta ask you this question. You're twenty

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01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 1: three years old, okay, and you really do you have

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01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 1: a business? Okay? That that you're smart enough to know

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01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 1: that it's handmade products, you know, all natural ingredients, which

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01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 1: is really big for this era of our living. If

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01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 1: everybody wants to know where it came from and who

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01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 1: made it, and if he's gonna it might make me

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01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 1: look good, but it's gonna kill me, you know. So,

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01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 1: so you just got out of college, when did you

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01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:36,680
Speaker 1: start formulating this whole theory that this is what I

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01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 1: wanted to do to start in college because I want

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Speaker 1: people to understand your process, your steps. Well, honestly, Mr

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01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 1: Mr McDonald, and it started my freshman year. But I

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01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 1: kind of take it back a little further than about

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01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 1: nine years ago. At the age of fourteen, I started

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01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:55,879
Speaker 1: you know, growing facial here and I was I attended

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01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 1: private school. My parents had me in private school, so

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01:12:57,920 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to private school, we had

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01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 1: you know, we had certain rules, and you know, one

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01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 1: of the rules was to you know, avoid having facial hair.

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01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 1: So I had to always keep a clean, clean face.

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01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 1: So really, the last time I had a clean face,

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01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 1: Mr McDonald, was probably my senior senior year, my graduation,

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01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 1: actually my senior year on graduation was the last time

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01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 1: I had a clean, smooth face. But since I graduated

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Speaker 1: from from high school, UH attended, you know, my first

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01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 1: my first year of college, I had the freedom to do,

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01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 1: you know, as I could do whatever. So I grew

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01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:29,560
Speaker 1: it out. I just grew it out, went crazy with

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01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 1: it and I did. I just I grew it out

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01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 1: and went crazy. But you know, unknowing like you know,

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01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 1: how to maintain a period, you know, I just I

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01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 1: was clue is I grew it. I grew my hair

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Speaker 1: out and um, you know, I just I just, you know,

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01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 1: just you know, went went wild with it and um

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01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 1: and then I realized, you know, probably my sophomore Yeah,

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01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:47,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I gotta start doing something with this

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01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 1: because I'm I'm walking on the side of the street

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01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 1: and people say, you know, God bless you boy, it's

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01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna be all right, handed me some change. And

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01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, what's the thing. I'm homeless. Wait a minute,

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01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 1: I looking looking on with dirty So I gotta I

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01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 1: got thinking this up a little bit. And so I'm like,

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01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 1: I'm gona have to pick them up. So I say,

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01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,600
Speaker 1: started my sophomore year, I started purchasing a lot of

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01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 1: beer care products and um, you know, I've purchased a lot,

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01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 1: a lot, and I'll tell you, you know, my beard

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01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 1: at that time was almost to like four or five inches.

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01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 1: So when it comes to the length of that beer

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01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 1: comes a lot of maintenance, which I had to do.

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01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 1: Buy a lot of products um as a college student.

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01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 1: You know, I bet a lot of you know, college

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01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 1: kids can tell you what brokes we don't have the

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01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 1: money to con the afford it and so um. And

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01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 1: so you know when I started my junior year, you know,

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01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 1: I started to you know, create my own because I

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01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 1: couldn't you know, I couldn't afford I couldn't have the

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01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 1: money to you know, have phone with my friends. So

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01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 1: I created the product, you know, my product and start

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01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 1: going into details. But before I really created it, I

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01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:48,600
Speaker 1: looked at my competition. You know. Key thing is you

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01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 1: have to look at the competition what not not more like,

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01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 1: you know, how can I be ten times twenty times better?

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01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 1: But you know the little things, what can what can

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01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 1: I do that can be different from the others? And uh,

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01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 1: that's that's you know how I got no you know

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01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 1: more of creating. You know the line, Well that's the

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01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 1: that's the first of all. I'm glad people are not

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01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,560
Speaker 1: stopping on the streets anymore because you look good in

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01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 1: your photo. You look good in your photos. Then tell

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01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 1: us how can they get to your products? So what

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01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 1: are the websites or what are the online is that

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01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 1: on Amazon? How can one get your products, well, you can.

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01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 1: You can go on our website rugged evo dot com.

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01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 1: We also on social media safe we have a Rugged

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01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 1: beard Care on Facebook and uh at rugged Evo on

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01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 1: Instagram and as well at rugged Evo on Twitter, and

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01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 1: you can also find us on Amazon as well. Now,

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01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 1: now let me ask you this because I looked at

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01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 1: your website and I saw like you have you have

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01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,680
Speaker 1: a brand ambassadors like well Chef Gnard Well is a

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01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 1: good friend of mine. It's one of your ambassadors. When

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01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 1: you when you get these ambassadors, what is the purpose

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01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:52,600
Speaker 1: of them to do for your brain? What are you

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01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 1: what are you trying to get them to accomplish? Just uh, mentorship,

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01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 1: you know, for me, I'm just graduate from I'm young,

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01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 1: I'm still you know, still learning to look for mentorship

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01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 1: and you know, just to spread the word. Just most

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01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 1: mainly to spread the word. Well guess what you you're

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01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 1: on my should have spread the word. And hopefully I'm

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01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 1: mentoring you because uh, because you know, you're you're amazing,

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01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 1: you know, And I always tell people this when they're

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01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 1: trying to when they're trying to venture out into their

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01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 1: own dreams. And that's what you're doing right now. You

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01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,680
Speaker 1: live in your own dreams right now, Arrington, and you

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01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 1: should continue in your backstory. Is exciting because, like you said,

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01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 1: it didn't start. It started way back when you was fourteen,

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01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 1: and you just figured out a pattern and said, hey,

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01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 1: look here, I see a money making conversation opportunity to

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01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 1: here and you and you jumped at it. And now

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01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,799
Speaker 1: people are supporting you. And you have a quality brand.

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01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 1: Believe me, you know, you know I'm successful. I wouldn't

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01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 1: like to throw anything on my face and you have

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01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,639
Speaker 1: a quality brand and I'm using it. And I love

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01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 1: that little round brush. I loved that. Even my wife said,

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01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 1: when I use it, it really makes my beard lay

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01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 1: down nice, she said, she looked at me one day

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01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 1: that brush. Really it's a big difference maker when you

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01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 1: brush your face, when you brush your beer. So you

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01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 1: you you put together something really good that people should

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01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 1: become more aware of. Thank you, Thank you so much,

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01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 1: so thank you so much. And I wanted to tell

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01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 1: you know you can, you know you can tell her

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01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 1: to mr Mr mcdown, tell he rugged is the new smooth.

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01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 1: There you go. I'm would tell her that tonight when

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01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 1: I when I'm wearing my after hours I'm been wearing

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01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 1: my after hours, and I talked to Arton Gavin and

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01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 1: he told me Rugged is the new smooth. Touched me,

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01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 1: Baby touched me, Baby touched me. To tell her again

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01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 1: one more time. They can reach your products man, and

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01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 1: get them on their shars, getting their bath through, they

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01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 1: put them in their car. They can reach us there

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01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 1: rugged evo dot com, find us on Instagram at at

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01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 1: rugged evo, and find on our Twitter at brugged evo

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01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 1: as well. Bah my man, you sound great, brother. They

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01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:53,799
Speaker 1: keep winning, man, keep running. I'll be wearing after hours.

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01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 1: After hours, We'll be right back with more from Marsan

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Speaker 1: McDonald and Money and Conversations. Don't touch that down. Hi,

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01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 1: this with Sean McDonald. I'm back with money making Conversations

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01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,719
Speaker 1: and my next guest is a self made woman. Over

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01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 1: the course of her life, has evolved from professional manicures

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01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 1: at age fifteen to Neil Salon owner at eighteen to

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01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 1: an undefeated and Hall of Fame boxing career, television host,

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01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 1: personality actress, author, and inspirational speaker. She's on the show

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01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 1: today this morning to talk about her new book Who

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01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 1: for Life. Delicious and healthy comfort food from my table

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01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 1: to yours. Please welcome to Money Making conversations. Layla Ali, Hi,

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01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 1: how you doing? Hey? How you doing? First of all,

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01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 1: thank you for coming back on my show. Okay, okay,

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01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 1: now here's here's the deal. I want to tell you

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01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 1: up front. I love your book. And these are the

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01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 1: recipes I've already tried. I made the green saucer poached deggs.

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01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 1: I made the chicken and eggs breakfast tacos, I made

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01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 1: the barbe qu beef, and my wife she made the

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01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 1: sea food gumbo. Well, you know, it's a very easy book,

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01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:15,560
Speaker 1: and uh that I want to take that before we

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01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:17,680
Speaker 1: even get it to the book and just start in

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01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 1: the interview to let you know that I see, here's

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01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 1: the cool thing about your book because it's it's healthy eating.

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01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:24,600
Speaker 1: And I'm and I've been on the diet, and on

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01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 1: this diet, I've lost twelve pounds so far, and thank you.

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01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 1: And so the food that you're offering, I can, it can.

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01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 1: Actually it's part of my diet and so so I've

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01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: been't even enjoy good eating not only on my diet,

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01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 1: but like in fact, I was an interviewing you want

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01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 1: to look at these books if I can. In your

1441
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 1: book was so so easy to read, so much fun

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01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 1: that I decided to incorporate it. And guess what, I've

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01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 1: benefiting all my readers, uh and listeners and viewers to

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01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 1: take time to understand that this book is worth buying

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01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 1: and you should buy it today. Thank you. You know what,

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01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:02,599
Speaker 1: I im put a lot of work into the book

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01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 1: because there's so much more with a cookbook. There's so

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01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 1: much information in there just about how to you know,

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01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 1: apply some cooking methods, even the foods that you're already cooking,

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01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 1: and ingredients, you know, and upgrades and things to make

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01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 1: your your dishes healthier. So even for someone who who

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01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 1: can throw down in the kitchen, you know, they can

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01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 1: learn something from it as well. So thank you. I'm

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01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 1: glad you're you're enjoying it. Now. When did you learn

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01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:24,799
Speaker 1: to cook? Because you know I read to that resume,

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01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 1: you know, doing figger nails. You know, when did you

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01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 1: learn to cook? I taught myself how to cook. I

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01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 1: started cooking when I was about ten nine or ten

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01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 1: years old. My mom didn't really cook much, so I

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01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 1: got in the kitchen myself. And I'm just that type

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01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 1: of person when I want to do something, I kind

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01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 1: of do the research that I need to do and

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01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 1: figure it out. But I called my grandma, you know,

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01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 1: my families from Louisiana as I started making gumbo and

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01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,680
Speaker 1: you know, the stew chicken and all that, just by

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01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 1: learning over the phone, you know, and she she taught me.

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01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 1: And of course there was a lot of trial and error.

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01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:58,679
Speaker 1: And I'm still learning. I mean, I still um learn

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01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 1: and grow in the kitchen every day. So and that's why,

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Speaker 1: that's why I want to tell people about this book,

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01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 1: because you know a lot of people that error part

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01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 1: of what stops being for cooking. The error making a

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01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 1: mistake or will it be as good as my mom.

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01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:14,639
Speaker 1: I don't want to with my friends or my husband

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01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:17,639
Speaker 1: or my girl from my boyfriend, uh, say bad things

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01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:21,599
Speaker 1: about my cookie. You take this book. It got beautiful pictures,

1477
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:24,639
Speaker 1: easy And when I say easy recipes, I'm telling you something.

1478
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 1: That green saucer poached egg recipe is so easy it's ridiculous.

1479
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 1: You're right, and it's like something you're getting the restaurant, exactly.

1480
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 1: And the thing I loved about your book, you said, Okay,

1481
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 1: if you don't know how to make sauca, go get

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01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 1: a very good saucer from the store. Yeah, exactly, Because

1483
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 1: sometimes even I I mean, sometimes I don't feel like

1484
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 1: making fresh saucer. I don't have the green tomatoes, you

1485
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:50,719
Speaker 1: know what, I mean to make the green saucer whatever.

1486
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 1: So you know, you there's always a way around it.

1487
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 1: I I just tell people trying to buy the best

1488
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 1: quality food that you can, because there is a difference

1489
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 1: in quality. You know, don't always go to a store

1490
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 1: looking for everything on sale. You know, sometimes you have

1491
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 1: to invest in your health um and the ingredients. You

1492
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 1: want to read labels, and there's a lot of information

1493
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:11,679
Speaker 1: on there about you know, how to navigate the grocery

1494
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 1: store because a lot of times, you know, and especially

1495
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 1: in our community, we're thick. We have diabetes, we have

1496
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 1: heart disease, we have obesity, and all kinds of other

1497
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: chronic illnesses that are directly related to the food that

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01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 1: we eat. And unfortunately, in lower income areas, people tend

1499
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 1: to eat the worst because they're they're trying to eat

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01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 1: on a budget. But you know, I get it. People

1501
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 1: look at me and say, well, you can afford it.

1502
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 1: But I talk about ways in the book as well

1503
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 1: that you can buy healthier foods, you know, at a

1504
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 1: lower cost. You just have to. It takes it takes

1505
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 1: some prioritizing and it takes some planning, but it can

1506
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 1: be done. And portion eating as well, and that that

1507
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 1: that's important as well. Now when I when I look

1508
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 1: at the book, I'm on the phone with Leila ali

1509
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 1: Uh And first of all, before we continuous interview, congratulations

1510
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 1: on being inducted into the Boxing Hall of Fame. I

1511
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 1: want to say that I got to say that that's

1512
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 1: an amazing accomplishment and should not be overlooked. That's gonna

1513
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 1: happen in August, correct, I think so. I'm not sure

1514
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 1: of the date. Actually, Yeah, I got so many things

1515
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 1: on my calendar. Yeah, it's coming up. It's coming up,

1516
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:12,600
Speaker 1: and I want to make it. I'm gonna tweet it

1517
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 1: out and make sure everybody's aware of my fan base

1518
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 1: that you should be celebrated because that's an amazing You

1519
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 1: are undefeated and and they're gonna they're gonna recognize you

1520
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:24,560
Speaker 1: for your skills, the skills in the ring. Now we

1521
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 1: talk about your skills and that just stove. Now let's

1522
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 1: talk about this book, Food for Life, delicious and healthy comfort,

1523
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 1: food for from my table to yours, Food for Life.

1524
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:35,599
Speaker 1: Where did that title come from? What did you get

1525
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 1: that title. I actually came up with the title. Um I, well,

1526
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 1: first of all, when I think about food, and you

1527
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 1: think about the fact that what we don't think about

1528
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:48,640
Speaker 1: this very often, but the fact is that food is

1529
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 1: supposed to have nutrition in it because it actually turns

1530
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 1: in once it breaks down and your body breaks it

1531
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 1: down and turn into the cells that turn into your

1532
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 1: brain and your hair and your skin and your organs. Right,

1533
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 1: So you think of food that way, I think we'd

1534
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:03,639
Speaker 1: be more careful about what it is that we're eating.

1535
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 1: So I thought of the title means many different things.

1536
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 1: So food for life, because food is the basis which

1537
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 1: in life begins with ourselves. And then of course food

1538
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 1: for whether you're a busy mom or whether you're you know, cooking,

1539
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:19,719
Speaker 1: cook cooking on the go or entertaining. There's the chapters

1540
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 1: are named in a certain way that pretty pretty much

1541
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 1: applied to our lives. So it's food that you can

1542
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 1: eat for the rest of your life. Um I talked

1543
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 1: about the fact that you know, we're we're into a

1544
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 1: lot of fad diets right now. It's like this is

1545
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 1: what everyone you know, whether it's paleo or vegetarian or

1546
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 1: Mediterranean diet, or whatever it is that you're following. You know,

1547
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 1: those kind of come and go a lot of the time.

1548
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:40,760
Speaker 1: But this is food that you can eat for the

1549
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 1: rest of your life, at any stage of your life,

1550
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 1: no matter what age that you are, because it's just

1551
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:48,639
Speaker 1: pure clean eating. So and then of course I take

1552
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 1: in consideration being that I'm African American. I like my greens.

1553
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 1: I'm like my other front chicken. I like my gumbo,

1554
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 1: you know, I like my soccer timmy cake. I'm like

1555
01:24:56,840 --> 01:25:00,840
Speaker 1: my sweet potato Hige. So we put those recipes in there,

1556
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 1: you know, so that there's something for for people who

1557
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:05,600
Speaker 1: like to eat the same way that I eat. But

1558
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 1: of course, and I developed a whole lot of other

1559
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 1: recipes you know, in the in the book as well,

1560
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 1: so there's something for everybody. So but I will see,

1561
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 1: as you know, with Sean, because you cook, you know

1562
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 1: with what the hardest thing about doing a cookbook is

1563
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 1: is that I don't normally even follow recipes at home.

1564
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:22,759
Speaker 1: When I'm making my gunbo, I never had a recipe.

1565
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 1: I just make it so that actually make it into

1566
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 1: a recipe was the hardest thing because depending on the

1567
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 1: produce or you know, the way the seafood tape, I

1568
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 1: might put a little more of this and a little

1569
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 1: more Yeah, so you definitely have to do that and

1570
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 1: take that into consideration. The same thing with the greens.

1571
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 1: I like to cook my greens longer than which actually

1572
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:45,639
Speaker 1: says in the book. But you know I talked about

1573
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 1: for the health benefits, you would cook them for less time,

1574
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 1: but I'm actually gonna cook mine longer because I like

1575
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 1: them to be broken down more. So you know, you

1576
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 1: take all that in the consideration. Whether you want to

1577
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:56,680
Speaker 1: add a little more chicken bossy or a little more

1578
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:58,680
Speaker 1: salt there. You know, you could figure it out, you know.

1579
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,600
Speaker 1: But but um, that's what I love about cooking. So

1580
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 1: as you were to what you were saying earlier, you

1581
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 1: should get in the kitchen and use those recipes as

1582
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 1: a base, you know, but then build them from there

1583
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:11,599
Speaker 1: and make them your own. And that's why I loved

1584
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:13,599
Speaker 1: about it. But that's why the very top I wanted

1585
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 1: to tell people, you know, I tried something these recipes

1586
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 1: because they were so easy, and you know, I know

1587
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 1: I'm sounding like an INFO commercial. You know, they're so

1588
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 1: easy and look, but when you when you see something

1589
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 1: like that pool, that pool barbe que beef um. That

1590
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 1: is like I'm looking at like four things. They're like

1591
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 1: four things. You had your man, you know, got the

1592
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 1: book and I went to people on the green saucer.

1593
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 1: I go to the store and get my saucer. Okay,

1594
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 1: because she told me I could do that, you know,

1595
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 1: she gave me the rights to do that. And so

1596
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 1: that's what a lot of books don't free you up,

1597
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:49,640
Speaker 1: you know, because I looked at rather than grease saucer man,

1598
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:51,680
Speaker 1: and then she said, all you can get it in

1599
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 1: the store. Oh, I got permission. And that's what I

1600
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 1: loved about your book. We almost gave me permission to

1601
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 1: be normal. Yes, exactly, because like I said, I don't

1602
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 1: always have time to be making fresh sauce of like,

1603
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 1: come on, I got kids running around here, Kiden clean up.

1604
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 1: You know, I'm tired husband to take care of its, Like,

1605
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 1: let me do the mains and I'm gonna go get

1606
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 1: the you know, the guacamole and all that on the

1607
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 1: stuff you know, at the store. And you can do that,

1608
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 1: but since sometimes I want to take the time and

1609
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:20,719
Speaker 1: make everything fresh, you know, So it's up for everybody,

1610
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 1: it's up favor. On the phone with La talking about

1611
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:26,599
Speaker 1: her great book, A great book, Food for Life, Delicious

1612
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 1: and healthy comfort food from my table to yours. Tell

1613
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 1: us some of your favorite recipes before we get out

1614
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 1: of here. Well, definitely, I would have to say the

1615
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 1: up and fried chicken. Um. Chicken and gravy. You gotta

1616
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 1: try to stew chicken and gravy. Um. Have maybe have

1617
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 1: your wife make that one. Um. Yeah, I would say

1618
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 1: the sweet potato pie. Um. You know, there's just so many.

1619
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 1: It's really here's the funny thing about it, Like she

1620
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 1: made the seafood gumbo because it's a lot, you know

1621
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, So we ate it. And she said,

1622
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 1: and she left town on Saturday. She said, I'm gonna freezer.

1623
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, you're not, I said. I said, I'm

1624
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 1: gonna eating my gumbo. I got gumbo for lunch for

1625
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 1: dinner for two or three days like Thanksgiving at my house.

1626
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:11,759
Speaker 1: I'm eating my gun and talking about she gonna freeze

1627
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,599
Speaker 1: my gumbo. No, I have to put breaks on her later.

1628
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 1: She didn't want to go bad because gumbo's expenses. Guess

1629
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 1: what it is. It's not gonna go badas throat into

1630
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 1: his stomach, that's where it's gonna go bad. I had

1631
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 1: to put the brakes on, you know, because you know

1632
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 1: it was gonna be fresh stone bo. I'm sorry, So

1633
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:33,680
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying your food. Come gonna let everybody know. You know,

1634
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 1: the McDonald household. We are fans of your ability. Fans

1635
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 1: because of what you've done all your life, and the

1636
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 1: fans of the fact that on your TV show you've

1637
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 1: always represented high quality and this book is at that

1638
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:50,679
Speaker 1: same standard level. But more important, fans, your book allows

1639
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:54,560
Speaker 1: me to be myself and allows us to believe not

1640
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 1: have any insecurities when you go in that kitchen and walk.

1641
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 1: I congratulations on this book and I will keep pushing

1642
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1645
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Speaker 1: Food for from my table meaning latest table to yours.

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Speaker 1: Keep winning, keep winning, Congratulations, Appreciate you. Bye bye. As

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Speaker 1: money making conversations, everybody Rushan McDonald. We keep winning here

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