1 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to It could happen here a podcast 2 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: about how everything is falling apart, and today we are 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: talking about how the United Kingdom of Great Britain Northern 4 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: Ireland is continuing to fall apart. And James, can I say, 5 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: great job, nailed it, Thank you buddy, out of the park. 6 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: You absolutely just stunning work introducing this podcast. Yeah, I've 7 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: bought the level of commitment that British people have brought 8 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: to governing half of the world for centuries. I have 9 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: my coffee cup that says fuck it and that that's 10 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: where we're at with this one. That's exactly what we 11 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: wanted from you. Yeah, I'm incredibly sad about the plight 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: of my home country and continue to be so that 13 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to explain the reason for my sadness to 14 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: Garrison and Chris and Robert today. One of hell, yeah, 15 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: one of the reasons for my sadness. Okay, So what 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: I want to talk about today is Elizabeth Trust liszt Trust. 17 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the British cost of living crisis, 18 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: and I think more broadly, I want to talk about, 19 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: like how we consent to be governed by people who 20 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: do not give a single funk about our well being. Well, now, James, 21 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: that's an experience that only the British have, so that's correct. Yeah, 22 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: it's notably not something that much of the colonial periphery 23 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: experience for centuries, which he thought the monarchy away. Now 24 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: beat beat the monarchy garrison. That's a bold we garrison 25 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: from a Canadian. Yeah, that's right. Your people try to 26 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: stop it. Yeah, that's all we did was in evade 27 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: you a couple of times. I don't think you can 28 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: sneak in there. And then the ambiguity of accents by us. 29 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: Passport is on the way, on the way, on the way. Yeah, 30 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: so was the Queen of England's. Yeah, Liz Truss is 31 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: gonna come take that away, King Charles, it's gonna make 32 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: it not allowed. I do have to get into a 33 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: Canadian passport with the king on it now, which sucks. 34 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: That was the most I guess we all learned a 35 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: lot because it's been so long since you had a 36 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: change of monarch. But the fact that everyone has to 37 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: stop using the money and everyone has to skip is 38 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: fucking absurd. This is the worst political system I've ever 39 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: heard of. Just wait, because it's gonna get even more 40 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: kind of Okay, Chris, you live in Chicago. Yeah, but here, 41 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: here's the thing. Here's the thing right in Chicago, right, 42 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: everyone everyone like like too. In the core of their being, 43 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: they know that the people who ruled him are robbing them. 44 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 1: Everyone in Britain actually genuinely like wants to be like this. 45 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: No one in Chicago wants any of the people in 46 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: Chicago who rule us to be ruling us. Right, everyone 47 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: in Britain is like pro like they want you have 48 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: to throw all their money away because some fucking ninety 49 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: year old of a hat died. Is an incomprehensible level 50 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:12,839 Speaker 1: of just yeah, outstanding. Yeah, it's a marvelous country. There's 51 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with it. It will continue to be marvelous. 52 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: And the lowest ten percent of income people in Britain 53 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: now enjoy a quality of life which is substantially lower 54 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: than that same income bracket in Slovenia, which look at 55 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: the economic powerhouse of Slovenia. I just want to say, 56 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: we do not deserve a better quality of living than 57 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: the people of Slovenia actually rules. Yeah, it does great places. Yeah, 58 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: it's a really nice place. She takes about two hours 59 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: to cross, but it's a great country, right, you can 60 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: ride your mic across it. But that's great, that's what 61 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: you want to do. What's what's happening here is that 62 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: MAOIs Liz Trust is like very slowly returning all the 63 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: breads of the countryside. She yes, she's she's doing a 64 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: cultural revolution. And let's talk about Mauice Liz Trust. So 65 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: her parents are actually a long way to her left. 66 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: There was a thing a little while ago where her 67 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: dad refused to campaign for her when she ran for 68 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: a seat as a Conservative, which is based critical support 69 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: for Liz Trus's dad. Her mom also ran as a 70 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,799 Speaker 1: Lib dem which is not exactly like the Liberal Democrats 71 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: are not exactly like the party that are going to 72 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: liberate the working class through glorious revolution. But it's still 73 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: pretty funny to have your mom running for a different 74 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: party than you and like objectively amusing. She was born 75 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: in Oxford. Her parents her mother's a teacher. Her dad 76 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: is an academic. I think it leads her dad's he's 77 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: a mathematician. What a nerd? God damn it. Her dad 78 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: is not the nerd here. Her dad is the best 79 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: Trust as far as I can tell. It's it's Liz 80 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: who were worried about she described her parents as being 81 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: to the left of labor, which is not hard. Labor 82 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: just exists to kind of these days really to have 83 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: the pretensive opposition right, they've deliberately per urged the left 84 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: from labor after two thousand and nineteen, and they exist 85 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: for Keir Starmor to say I broadly support this terrible 86 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: nearliberal policy but and and then say something completely ineffectual, 87 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: and I'm sure he will be Prime Minister soon and 88 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: nothing will change. And I think that Liz Trust has 89 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: done and is doing, will be walked back because Britain 90 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: doesn't have an effective left opposition in parliament. It does 91 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: in society and in the streets, and we'll see there 92 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: are lots of movements. Our parliament is a fast and 93 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: continues to be a fast, and it's lots of dudes 94 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: who went to the same educational institutions making this funny 95 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: kind of noise that there are more diverse people in parliament. 96 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: But I'm sure people have seen videos of the British 97 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: Parliament right and everyone was like when someone sounds just 98 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: like that, yeah, that thanks Daniel. Americans who don't understand 99 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: entirely how British educational culture works. The fancy schools that 100 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: they go to. They're like Hogwarts if you replaced like 101 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: the Magic with kids beating each other in the shower 102 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: and yeah, with the repressed sexuality and yeah, violence, bullying 103 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: and being picked on because you're the poorest kid in 104 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 1: at school. Ful. So actually it is. It is a 105 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: lot like Harry Potters, quite a bit like Harry pod Yeah, yeah, yeah, 106 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 1: there are still turfs. It's very disappointing. So talking of 107 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: educational institutions, trust went to ox It right, she went 108 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: to merchon, I went to talk to two. I didn't 109 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: go to merchant that's a better off college. I went 110 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: to college which is renowned for being poor. For what's 111 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: that's worth within Oxford colleges, which were all full of 112 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: rich people doing rich people's stuff. She read PPE Politics, 113 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: Philosophy and Economics, which I don't think you can really 114 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: do as a degree in the US. Right, what is 115 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: that Politics, Philosophy and Economic Yeah, yeah, it's called PP 116 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: three made up things? Well, what are you saying? Other 117 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: other degrees, on the other hand, are real and tangible 118 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: and yeah, of course in the physical space where you 119 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: can touch them. Everyone knows that. Yeah, it's true. Apart 120 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: from p P PP is so like I went to 121 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: Oxford two, I took Modern History and Politics, which is 122 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: way cooler and better in every way. But the PPE 123 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: kids such so that people understand. A vast number of 124 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: British prime ministers have taken pp as as their undergraduate degree. 125 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: It's like the kingmaker of degrees and you take it 126 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: because you're an insufferable fucking dorc who wants to be 127 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: prime minister or like work for the British government in 128 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: some way right, like it is this like kingdomaker one 129 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: of the prime minister. It looks like such a good job. Yeah, 130 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: they last a long time. They have universally great approval ratings. 131 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: And to be fair, they do just go on to 132 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: griff to share a ton of money like it's not 133 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: and they don't have to do it for like a 134 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: fixed period of time like American presidents do, so that's nice. 135 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: They can just have a bunch of parties for their 136 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: friends in the lockdown and their leave, which is more 137 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: or less what Boris Johnson did. And I don't I 138 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: don't expect Liz to be prime minister for long, but 139 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: it's what she's doing and what she has already sort 140 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: of done that I think it's of interest here. Certainly 141 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: she was also president before we get off her university 142 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: time at the Oxford University Liberal Democrats and so oh yeah, yeah, 143 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: great stuff. The so like she's gradually drifted to the right, 144 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: which you know, what are we? What we she's grifted 145 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: to the right. You know, the lib Dems were a 146 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: little bit more left then, but Labor was very neoliberal 147 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: in the nineties right when she was in when she 148 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: was in Parliament, So sometimes the lib Dems provided something 149 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: of a left opposition if you remember, like Tony Blair 150 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: New Labor. It was just kind of bold neo liberal, 151 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: like shameless near liberalism. Right now, Tony Blair is the 152 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: one who was played by Hugh Grant, right, is he 153 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: the one of his He the inspiration for love? Actually 154 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: I was assuming because Tony Blair was the only British 155 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: politician I could name as a child. Okay, but we 156 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: must have been right because Tony Blair is completely devoid 157 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 1: of charisma, and the one thing that that Hugh Grant 158 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: character has is charisma, So maybe maybe he does kind of. 159 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: I mean, they're all white men, they are all white man. 160 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: That is a very white movie. He looks like him. 161 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: But then that's not exactly a remarkable thing, is it 162 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: in sort of homogeneous British ruling class that we have 163 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: so trust has gone through like being Secretary of State 164 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: for Justice, through being Lord Chancellor, through being Foreign Secretary. Okay, 165 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: Lord chancellors are pretty cool sounding title. I gotta give 166 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: it to him first. That's like Star Warship, which did 167 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: you do they have a shadow Lord Chancellor to the 168 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: thing that you're right is they pick the terms to 169 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: make it all sound cool, like when whenever one of 170 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: like your parliamentary coalitions collapse, they're like the government has fallen. 171 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: It just makes it all sound like it's so much 172 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: cooler than it is. It does lend an air of 173 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: shakespeare An epic, whereas what is is these seventeen people 174 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: who all went to the same schools and read the 175 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: same Telegraph newspaper columnists have disagree with each other from 176 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: minor point and will shortly be reconstituting their alliance in 177 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: a slightly different way. Yeah, but it sounds like people 178 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: are fighting each other with machetes. That has a Game 179 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: of Thrones beheading via maybe that's where this is heading. 180 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: Who knows she I think if people had heard of 181 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: Lives Trust until she became Prime Minister, it was probably 182 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: from her really wonderful pork market speech, which if you 183 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: haven't watched the pork market speech, it is a study 184 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: in when you should and shouldn't pause for applause. Robert, 185 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 1: have you seen this pork markets? No? Okay, what is 186 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: the fucking pork market? In December, I'll be in Beijing 187 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: opening up new pork markets. What the fund is this ship? 188 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: She's not a real person. She's it's reminiscent of like 189 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: when you take a fish of water and it moves 190 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: its lips but makes no coherent noise. You can alien 191 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: trying to pretend to be humid. Yeah, it's it's this 192 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: is a great this is a great leader of our people, 193 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: and it's like the uncanny valuable craft Ian and it's 194 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: in its unsettling nous. Yeah, yeah, what's what's what's happening here? 195 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: What we're seeing is this is this is the This 196 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: is the final result of affirmative action from white people. Yes, 197 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: we're going to get you to that. This is why, 198 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: this is why she has this job. She she she 199 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: benefited from affermative action from white people. Other examples of 200 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: this include Destiny and yeah, yeah, you get the same 201 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: kind of person every single time, same same right, like 202 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: Destiny and the Prime Minister of the UK and yeah, 203 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: so like she becomes prime minister. And it's worth noting that, like, 204 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: the way you become prime minister in the UK is 205 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: different to the way you become president in the US. Right, 206 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: you are the leader of the majority party in Parliament, 207 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: or of the coalition that controls the majority of the 208 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: votes in parliament. So she becomes prime Minister not through 209 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: a vote of the people, but through a vote of 210 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: the members of the Conservative Party. And you can understand 211 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: as like people whose dogs have girls names and whose 212 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 1: daughters have dogs names. I think that is I think 213 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: that's a trash future bit. I don't know where it 214 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: came from, but it explains the perfectly. So these people 215 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: got together and they she ran against Richie Sunac right, 216 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: and who is eminently more capable of doing the fashi 217 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: neoliberal ship that they want to do, as are many 218 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: other people of color within their party. But above all things, 219 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: they are racist, right above even doing this kind of 220 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: speed run extraction from the British economy. They are still racists. 221 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: They're they're they're fine with having people of color in 222 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: in positions in the hierarchy, right, there's something that Britain 223 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: established through hundreds of years of empire. But the idea, 224 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: the idea of having someone in a leadership position is 225 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: is fundamentally anathema to the Conservative Party. So instead they 226 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: picked kind of Liz Trust to just flap her lips 227 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: around and talk about pork markets, right, So that's how 228 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: we get Liz Trust as Prime Minister. So no one 229 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: per se votes for Lizz Trust. No one even per 230 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: se votes for like the Liz Trust a genda that 231 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: we're seeing now, right, and I think that's really important. 232 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: And in her acceptance speech, she talks to Boris Johnson 233 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: as she said, you're you're admired from Kiev to Carlisle. Yeah, 234 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 1: she says, yeah, okay, first of all, Bizz, Absolutely thing 235 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: I know about Boris Johnson is that he looks like 236 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. If Trump didn't have his ship quite so together, yes, yeah, 237 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: he looks Donald Trump. His mom didn't tell him to 238 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: come his hair and tuck his shirt before he went 239 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: to school. Yeah, if Donald Trump couldn't have paid paid 240 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: a half. People like check him before he walks out 241 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 1: the door. That's how he would look. Yeah, yes, exactly. 242 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: If he fell over in a wind tunnel, he would 243 00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: look like Boris Johnson. Burris Johnson, a guy so fucking 244 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: rich he's never had to comb his hair. Stop being 245 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: prime minister because of these scandals, right, these sleeve scandals 246 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 1: about them having parties during lockdown. More or less, that 247 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: was what destroyed him. Not any of his terrible policies 248 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: is biggoted bullshit. Him writing up ed saying that the 249 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: problem with us was not that we were in charge 250 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: of Africa, but that we're not anymore. God. Yeah, yeah, 251 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: this is a type of guy who exists and can 252 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: become Prime minister. Like people don't understand. I think, um, British, 253 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: the British right is very different from the American right, 254 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: and I think we're going to get into that. And 255 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: also a guy who famously just like pulverized a small 256 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: child on the trip to Japan playing Okay, you don't 257 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: need to say the things that he did that are 258 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: rad he he did finally discover the actual third world 259 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: British politics, which is that if you have fun in 260 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: a way that someone else can't have fun, they will 261 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: destroy you. Yes, the mere British perct with your act 262 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: of a British person seeing another person having any joy whatsoever, 263 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: like just like the so a switch flips in their 264 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: brain and they just turned into like Brits but worse. 265 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: This is yeah, so this is like there are basically 266 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: two ways that a British political party can be right. 267 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: One is that they enjoy themselves while they're plundering the 268 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: institution to still remain in the United Kingdom. And the 269 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: other one is that they are like magnastically abstemious while 270 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: they're doing it right. And Labor tend to be the 271 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: obstinuious ones, uh, And the Tories tend to be the 272 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: ones who drink the poor and have the lockdown parties 273 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: and have like literal karaoke events when they're asking people 274 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: not to go to their grandparents funerals, and Labor tend 275 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: to be the ones who wring their hands to go 276 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: oh no and then fundamentally do the same ship right. 277 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: That that is a different Chris is entirely correct that 278 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: that is the thing that irritates British people most, right, 279 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: And maybe we'll just talk about this right now, it's 280 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: increasingly like it's not the material conditions that bring down 281 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: British governments, because material conditions are getting worse and have 282 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: been getting worse since we started this this austerity stuff 283 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: in it's these stupid scandals, right, these these personal scandals 284 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: which yes normally involved them having too much fun when 285 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: they're supposed to be pretending to be serious while they 286 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: steal all the all the things that still remain in Britain. 287 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: And I want to talk about a little bla this. So, yeah, 288 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: she said Boris Johnson was aboutd from Keith to Carlole. 289 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: He's not. That's why he's not Prime Minister anymore. Everyone 290 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: hates him. And also I don't think she's been to 291 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: Carlos because I got family who lived there and not 292 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: everyone loves Boris Johnson there, and I'm sure not in 293 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: Kiev either. But so the UK has been having this 294 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: cost of living crisis since the economy reopened in right, 295 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: since the end of lockdown. What this cost of living 296 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: crisis is what cost of living goest DoD is generally 297 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: is when the goods that you need to buy to 298 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: exist arising more quickly than the wages you get paid. 299 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: For working Now some of these causes a globe or right. 300 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: We have this inflation issue in the US too, but 301 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: the UK has compounded this I leaving the European Union, 302 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: that creating massive labor labor shortages and these repeated bumps 303 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: in the energy price cap. Right, which is the limit 304 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: that an average family should pay for their energy consumption. 305 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: It's not it's not a hard stop. It's not a 306 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: limit on how much you definitely will pay, but it's 307 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: a limit on how much the average family should pay. Right, 308 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 1: and so Trust come to power in the context of 309 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: skyrocketing energy rates for British consumers. Gas is used for 310 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 1: hitting most homes in the UK, and it's increased in 311 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: price since before the coronavirus times, despite the fact that 312 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: most British people don't pay spot prices for gas and 313 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: pay the going market rate for gas. There's a serious 314 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: crisis and affordability. Now. It was looking like the gas 315 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: bills were going to go up, into the average gas 316 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: bill for the average British per someone's going to go 317 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: up more than it now is. Because Trust has has 318 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: announced some capping of spot rates. We're going to get 319 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: into why that isn't as great as it sounds. The 320 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 1: big issue here is that Britain doesn't have a nationalized provider, right. 321 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: It's privatized its energy greate, it's privatized its energy generation, 322 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: and it ends up with this bizarre situation where one 323 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: of the one of the people you can buy energy 324 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: off and often you don't have a choice, right depending 325 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: on where you are, is the French national energy company. 326 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: That makes sense, Yeah, it makes perfect sense, right, it's 327 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: it's great and one of the notables that cons going 328 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: too this is a gas price who've gone up. France 329 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: caps the prices that consumers can pay. Britain allows them 330 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: to charge a lot more so British people at this. 331 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: It's as a rule, one thing that britis telling me 332 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: that France finally won that long war and say that 333 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: we have been owned by the French. And if that 334 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: doesn't bring down the Conservative government, I don't know what will. 335 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: Because there's one thing British people dislike, its French people. 336 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: And and so yeah, Britain is now subsidizing energy rates 337 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: for French consumers, which is great having just left the 338 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: European Union, because we are incredibly xenophobic as a nation 339 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: as it turns out, and people may have seen this 340 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: UK TV show called This Morning where they did a 341 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: wheel of Fortune type thing where you could win a 342 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: thousand pounds or or they will pay your energy bills. Yeah, 343 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: but for like three or four months, right, months, four 344 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: months of energy bills and the blank they're doing it 345 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: in it's just like it's this side of relief when 346 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: he gets energy bills, right, He's like, oh massive, Like 347 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have my energy bills pay for four months. 348 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: It's such a relief. And this guy is one of 349 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: four million people in the UK who uses what's called 350 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: a pre payment meter, which I'm reliably informed that Americans 351 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: don't have. So do you do you all? Are you 352 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: familiar with the concept of pre payment meters? Uh? No, okay, 353 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: so maybe people are permiliar with like pay as you 354 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: go phones right where you go to the shop. Yeah. Yeah, 355 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: if you if you're like selling drugs, or you're you're 356 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: you're engaged in anti government extremism, Yeah you want you 357 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: want to phone like that? Sure? Yeah yeah yeah. Or 358 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: if you're doing journalism, you might want journalism reasons it's 359 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: the same as one of the others. Yeah, yeah, yes, true. Yeah. 360 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: Here in cool Zone media, you know, you know, you 361 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: know who won't use a prepaid cell phone to sell 362 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: you drugs because they're not Wait yeah they would, you 363 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: think so? I think they just got enough money they 364 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: would just use a regular phone bill and have a lawyer. 365 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: Just you know, I think I think they're deep into 366 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: boost Mobile for the only thing. Even John laugh, they're 367 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 1: fucking back. Okay, so you know who have to go 368 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: to Walmut to buy more credit to their phone so 369 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: they can sell you some weed. It's the advertisers who 370 00:20:51,520 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: support this show. Okay, we're back and we are talking 371 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: about prepaid energy meters. Scintillating topic. So the prepaid energy 372 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: meter r you have to go out, you have to 373 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: pay for energy, so if your rate to go. The 374 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: reason for these overwhelmingly is that, like there's an agreement 375 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: by which most energy supplies won't just cut you off 376 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: in the UK, like if you have old people in 377 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: your house, you have children in your house, like they 378 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: have to do this. The appearance of caring is this 379 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: thing that we're going to see is really important in 380 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: lots of these policies. Right, so they can't cut you off, 381 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 1: but if they have it, if you have a meter 382 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: and you can't prepay for the electricity, then your de 383 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: facto cut off right. And the best distates I could 384 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: find about this was in seventeen were roughly a hundred 385 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: and forty tho households of the of those that had 386 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: pre payment meters self disconnected. Self disconnected the euphemism for 387 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: they couldn't pay right for gas or electricity. In seen, 388 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: they couldn't afford to our credit to their meter right, 389 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: and they didn't the credit, so they couldn't get the electricity, 390 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: so they end up disconnecting. And if you add to 391 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: this that the British houses are made out of cheese. 392 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: Our houses are very poorly insulated for the most part. 393 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: Right that they're often single brick, so it's expensive to 394 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: heat them and they get cold in the winter and 395 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: they get hot in the summer. We're not we have 396 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: like houses are designed to deal with the extremes in 397 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: temperature which we are now experiencing because we have ruined 398 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: the climate. So people are spending more and more using 399 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: more and more electricity and gas to heat their homes. 400 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: It's costing more and more and increasingly they can't afford 401 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: to pay it right, and this will lead to people dying. 402 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: So if we look at like what the average pensioner 403 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: in the UK, right, I looked up some statistics of 404 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: the Office of National Statistic. Here the average pensioner in 405 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: the UK has on a fixed income. It's making seventeen 406 00:22:54,520 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: thousand pounds a year, which it's I guess pounds of 407 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: what though their gold, rubber gold. You take your pounds 408 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: to the Bank of England and they give you golden return. Okay, 409 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: not anymore. That actually, interestingly was, if we go on 410 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: a side note for a minute, one of the ways 411 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: Britain achieved greater democratization when the middle class were excluded 412 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: but landowners were included was the middle class had cash 413 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: money and the landowners had wealth in the form of property. Right, 414 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: So in the middle class threatened to tank the entire 415 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: Bank of England by taking all their pound notes and 416 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: asking to have them converted to to the gold that 417 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: they that they were supposedly pegged to. And there was 418 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: not enough gold to actually to do that for the 419 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 1: entire money supplies, so they could have tanked the Bank 420 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: of England. So yeah, a bit of Reform Act history. 421 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: They're no longer they're decoupled now from that, so you 422 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 1: can't do that sadly. But seventeen pounds is not a 423 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: lot of money, right. Trust has just announced that the 424 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: energy bill for an average family is going to be 425 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: kept two thousand, five hundred pound a year, which it's 426 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: a decent chunk of your income, right if you're making 427 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: seventeen thousand Before that, the previous planned limit has been 428 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: three thousand, five hundred forty nine pounds for an average 429 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 1: family based on average consumption, which is a very significant 430 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: chunk of your seventeen thousand pound a year, right, especially 431 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: if if if you're renting. On top of that, Right, 432 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 1: the cost of housing, the cost of rental housing has 433 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: got up in the UK, and so and this is 434 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 1: arise again. The capital already been risen in April. Right. 435 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: It's not a price cap, right. This doesn't mean that 436 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: you as a family are guaranteed that you will not 437 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: pay more than this two thousand, five dred pound number. 438 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,719 Speaker 1: What is It's a unit cost limit. So not all 439 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: families are typical, not all homes are typical, but the 440 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: cost is for those who interested tenpence per killer for 441 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: gas stay fourpence parkiller for electricity. So what this means 442 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: is that like we've capped a little bit of the cost, 443 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: and in response like, and this is pretty this is 444 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: pretty typical for what the conservatives do. Right, They'll do 445 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: this thing where they give the appearance of caring and 446 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: then at the same time they bundle it in with 447 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of incredibly like uh, just like the best 448 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: way to understand these people is that they view the 449 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: free market as a religion, right, So, and they believe that, 450 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 1: like the only way out of anything is to cut taxes. 451 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: Whether they actually believe that because they think it will 452 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: genuinely make the situation better, or they're just trying to 453 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: get as much as they can for them and theirs, 454 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: I think it probably I'm leaning towards the second one, right, 455 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: But so she bundles this with the UK is gonna 456 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: gonna lift it ban on fracking, right um? The UK 457 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: band fracking after a series of earth tremors near Blackpool, which, like, 458 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: there's a lot of cursed things about Britain, but until recently, 459 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: we hadn't added earthquakes to that list. And so thank you, Liz. 460 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: They it very funny work. Business School published to study 461 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: in twenty pointing out it is widely widely recognized that 462 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: the open and liberal nature of the UK's gas market 463 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: means that the market price the national balalty point is 464 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: unlikely to be influenced by shell gas development. So shell 465 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: gas is fracking right in the UK. So the UK 466 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: is going to start fracking, which is great. And she 467 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: also proposed removing the top tier of income tax, which 468 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: is reducing the amount of tax paid by people who 469 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: earn more than a hundred and fifty thousand pounds a 470 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: year right now they pay tax above that. This announcement 471 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: caused a pound to fall to a historic low against 472 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: the dollar and for Trust to find herself in open 473 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: beef with the Wokes goals at the i m F. 474 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: So the i m F said new economic measures laid 475 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: out by the UK government will likely increase inequality, and 476 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: they added that the i m F does not recommend 477 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: large and untargeted fiscal packages at this juncture. So she 478 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: always during this like she she promised that she was 479 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: going to cancel a planned rise on corporate tax and 480 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,959 Speaker 1: scrap a proposed cap on bankers bonuses. This has been 481 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: one of her big policy things, along with Simon Clark, 482 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: who declared a new age of austerity. At the time 483 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: they announced this right, But there's this constant like everything 484 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: Britain does is only one way in which conservative governments 485 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: to move can move, and that is taxing the other 486 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: people who went to the same schools and universities as 487 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: them less. So I kind of want to take a 488 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 1: step back here and talk about the ideology that underpins 489 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: a lot of what Trust is doing. And and it's 490 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: that she and Chance to the Executuasi Quieting and pretty 491 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: Patel and Dominic rob who are all in her cabinet, 492 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: I think a part of this free enterprise group within 493 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: the Conservative Party. And much like you have caucuses in 494 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: the American Senate, in Britain, we have these groups. And 495 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: they wrote this book called Britannia Unchained, which I don't 496 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: know if people are probably not familiar with, right, I've 497 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: heard of it, but I know very little about it. Yeah, 498 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: it's just like a it's a series of short essays, 499 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: just like doing a Milton Freedman, like an unreconstructed free 500 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: market fundamentalism that it's it's very different to what the 501 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: because the American right likes to talk about markets and 502 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: libertarianism and stuff, right, but like in general their entire politics, 503 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: it's just kind of owning the lips, right, like these 504 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: socio cultural a grievances, and then when they get in power, 505 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: they they they're spending is largely just about one might 506 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: argue staying in power, right, whereas the Conservatives in Britain 507 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: are genuinely committed to slashing government, including slashing services, including 508 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: slashing any kind of social safety net. Right, it does 509 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: have these amusing consequences sometimes, like Britain continually cuts the 510 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: number of police it has, which is great, it's genuinely 511 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: really funny. Yeah, it's it's very funny. It's very funny 512 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: that like our most right wing party and I guess 513 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: not almost writing party if you've got some proper nutters, 514 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: but we've defunded the police just by not wanting to 515 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: spend money on them. It is also okay, and by 516 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: by funny, you have the incredibly depressing that like like 517 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: Corb Corbin was running on adding more cops, which is 518 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: like the most cursed, like the British left like always 519 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: like they always find a way to destroy themselves. That 520 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: they've been doing this for like two hundred years. It's 521 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: it's really impressive stuff. Yeah, yeah, it's incredibly it's incredibly 522 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: depressing to watch, Like, yes, the British left just tear 523 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: itself to piece. Not that the American left doesn't tear 524 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: itself to pieces, right, it seems to be a thing 525 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: on the left. But yeah, when the British left had 526 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: a serious run and making a serious difference in instead, 527 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: we decided to just absolutely like tear each other to shreds. 528 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: And here we are, right here we are with the 529 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: number of children in poverty going up by six hundred 530 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: thousand in since with the number of from twelve. The 531 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: number of children who rely on food banks for their 532 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: food security has tripled. By the end of this year 533 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: that in National Health Service National Health Curve, which is 534 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: our nationalize socialized medicine system, right, the budget will have 535 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: been cut by compared to six that's despite the fact 536 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: that we just went through a pandemic. The poorer socio 537 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: economic groups in the UK are experiencing a full in 538 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: life expectancy for the first like we we have life expectator. 539 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: It is pretty much continually trucked up since the Industrial Revolution, 540 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: but we're now finally slashing that down again. Well I wonder, 541 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: I wonder why. Yeah, there's no way of explaining it 542 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: that there's it's just happening. The only solution is a 543 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: free market, a free market, a free our market. He 544 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: had to pump more things into the area. Yes, ye 545 00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: we are, well here, I'm going to take a puff 546 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: from my in hailer because my lungs are dying. Yeah, 547 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: well that's because one is outrageous right now. You're not 548 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: getting fracked hard enough in the Pacific. More fracking will 549 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: fix my fix pollution and the fact that people are 550 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: literally dying, yeah, younger than their their parents did. And 551 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: the Tories don't they have these like what's very important 552 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: to them. It's the performance of patrician care, right, Like 553 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: we saw this with Theresa May's burning injustices, which of 554 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: course remain burning injustices because you're doing anything about them. 555 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: Boris Johnson's leveling up agenda, and people familiar with his like, God, 556 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: I can't believe you have a minister, you have a 557 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: shadow minister of leveling up. I just like, at what 558 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: point do you just go none of this is real? 559 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: And like if they start sending cops, you just keep 560 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: beating them up until everyone else is forced to concede 561 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,479 Speaker 1: that they're like, no, there is not in fact a shadow, 562 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: a shadow Minister of leveling up. Yeah, I don't know. 563 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: That is the big The big question that I want 564 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: to ask is at what point do we realize that 565 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: there is not a shadow Minister of leveling up, and 566 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: that we don't have to open new pork markets, and 567 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: that maybe that isn't the solution to us dying younger 568 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: than our parents, and that we don't have to do 569 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: what these people say when they are just very blatantly 570 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: like trust is very obviously doing an extractive speed run 571 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: on the British economy right there, and I'll tell you 572 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: what you know, who else will do an expective steed 573 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: run on the British economy. Is that the products and 574 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: services that yeah, the show it is, sadly yeah, alright, 575 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: we're talking about extractors. Speed runs were back. So with 576 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: Johnson and even with Theresa May right who was a 577 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: Prime minister before him, there was this important perform moments 578 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: of of caring right being like, oh, We're gonna make 579 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: life better for the poorer socioeconomic groups, the poorer people 580 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: in the UK. I think what's changed is that like 581 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: the nature of of consent from the governed is is 582 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: this thing that maybe we need to elucidate more, right, 583 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: Like in Britain, there was this kind of consensus that 584 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: like the the governing party will pretend to care and 585 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: we'll pretend to do things, and sometimes they would let 586 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: you have nice things, right, little treats and trinkets, and 587 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: that in return you would largely not kick them out, right, 588 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: like either physically or electorally, or that it's very hard 589 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: to keep them out electorally because of Britain's asked backwards 590 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: electoral system, which is another relic of a previous era. 591 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: Now they don't seem to be bothering to pretend to care, right, 592 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: Like when you're looking at a system in which, when 593 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: trust came to power, old people were going to die. 594 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: We we were looking at a system in which people 595 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: are dying younger than their parents, and all people were 596 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: going to die in the al this winter. Like I've 597 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: got friends I remember this was years ago, but it 598 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: was when the utility prices maybe started going up. When 599 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: my grandfather passed. My grandmother lived on her own and 600 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: her being really afraid to heat the house because of 601 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: how much it costs. Right, And I've got friends who 602 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: have spoken to this time who are like, well, we're 603 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: preparing to have our grand come and live with us 604 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: so that we can we can heat the house, or 605 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: like if we just move into the downstairs parts of 606 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: the house then we can keep those warm, right, or 607 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 1: like you know, we're going to go back to having 608 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: fires and we'll just google warm my house with a 609 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: wood fire. Right, Lots of houses in the UK still 610 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: have fireplaces that are functional. Yeah, my my house growing 611 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: up was heat with a wood fire. It's great. It's 612 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: good for their lungs. It's gives them a good coating 613 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: that they can then use in the rest of your 614 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: life to repel other pollutants. Coal fires are great inside 615 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: the home, highly encouraged. So like people were really making 616 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: these like it's it's it's the sort of stuff you 617 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: you associate maybe with like like the hard times in 618 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 1: the Soviet Union in right, like like sort of being like, well, 619 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 1: we're going to go to the food bank and we'll 620 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: line up and get food and then we'll we'll all 621 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 1: huddle in one room to stay warm. But these are 622 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: the plans that people were making like this this summer 623 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,439 Speaker 1: looking to this winter, and Lits Trust responded to that 624 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: with like, okay, well, the way to fix this is 625 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 1: lower taxes for high earners and no cap, but removing 626 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: the cap on bankers bonuses so that the financial services 627 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 1: industry will relocate to the UK. I wish it weren't 628 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: because the UK has left the European Union, right, and 629 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: it's now kind of a pariah in that sense. So like, 630 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: I don't really understand how the UK, how the British 631 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: government abstain obtains consent from the government anymore. And I'm 632 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: partially interested to see how this goes, and partially obviously 633 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: like a poll to see the costs of this. Like 634 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,760 Speaker 1: they're not even trying to care, they're not even pretending anymore. 635 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: They're just going to take what they can and then 636 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: presumably bounced to some tax island where they can they 637 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 1: can survive and thrive while the rest of us freeze 638 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: our asses off over the winter. So what I wanna, 639 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: I guess, finish up with is this idea that like 640 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 1: so in America, you have fixed terms of elections, right, 641 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: so every we're we're having a mid terms next month 642 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: and then we'll have the presidential In Britain, we don't 643 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: write in Britain the government has to lose a vote 644 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: from no confidence, which is when the majority of MP's 645 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: vote they no longer have confidence in the government or 646 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: the Prime Minister have to warr in theory the monarch 647 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,919 Speaker 1: castic corner election. Right, So I guess King Charles could 648 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: just because they didn't let King Charles go to the 649 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: climate summit recently, which is another amazing thing that Lives 650 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: Trust has managed to do within like a month of 651 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 1: being in office. She's already like openly in beef with 652 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: the monarchy, which is the one thing that conservative people 653 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: might like more than white people who tax rich people less. 654 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: She wouldn't let King Charles go to a climate summit 655 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: because conserved is a more or less climate change deniers, 656 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: or at least sort of climate change don't give a 657 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: fuck because we need to extract more money and so 658 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 1: like at some point, like I don't know what the 659 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: withdrawal of consent looks like anymore. Right, it's the people 660 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: who British politicians see themselves like, see themselves as governing 661 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 1: for like their constituents are seemingly like columnists in the Telegraph, 662 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: and the people who are the CEOs of these big 663 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: companies in London which have grown and grown and grown 664 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: and grown based on this endless supply of free money 665 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: that it is now drying up, right, So instead of 666 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: dealing with the root cause of that, they're going to 667 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: try and look at other ways for those people to 668 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: continue to grow and extract finance. And I don't know 669 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: what that means for the rest of British people, Like 670 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what the withdrawal of consent from a 671 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 1: system which so obviously doesn't care about the material conditions 672 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: you live in looks like. But if we want to 673 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: talk about collapse, and collapse is a thing that gradually 674 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,839 Speaker 1: happens rather than the thing that kind of we click 675 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: fingers and it's there. I think some of this is 676 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: what it looks like, like people refusing to pay their 677 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: power bills. It's becoming a thing in UK, right. I 678 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: should mention the energy companies are recording record profits throughout 679 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 1: this time period. Maybe it looks like protests in the 680 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: street that Britain has had these, like they had big 681 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: tuition feeth protests and we had the quote unquote London riots, right, 682 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 1: which were incredibly harsh you put down and people went 683 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: to jail for a long time for like stealing a 684 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 1: bottle of water from Motesco. So like, I think it's 685 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: worth watching for people who are not in the UK, Like, 686 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: what does it look like when you're governing elite stop 687 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: pretending to care about you, And what is the withdrawal 688 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: of legitimacy or the withdrawal of consent look like? And 689 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 1: like I said, I don't know, it's it's looked different 690 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: every time it's happened, right, looked different in the Soviet 691 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: Union too, Uh, the way it looked in Like I'm 692 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 1: trying to think of other regime collapses in South America. 693 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: And but like we say that, ay, we say that 694 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: a regime is consolidated when the rules of the game 695 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: are more important than the outcome of the game. And 696 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: I think we're getting to a point in Britain where 697 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: maybe the outcome of the game is going to be 698 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: more important than the rules of the game. So that 699 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,879 Speaker 1: might mean some serious change, It might not. It might 700 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 1: just mean, you know, we put a new dude on 701 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,280 Speaker 1: our on our coins and everyone puts bunting up industry 702 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: and we do nothing fundamentally different and just acquiesce in 703 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: living conditions getting worse and worse and worse, and more 704 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 1: and more people are dying because they're poor. I don't know, 705 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: but yeah, Garrison's just nodding better. Yeah, I think that 706 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 1: last one is going to be the one that happens. Yeah, 707 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: maybe we'll do it Olympics, and we'll spend the next 708 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: what was London twelve, the next decade just reminiscing over 709 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: how great that was, and then we'll just not notice that, 710 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,479 Speaker 1: you know, our grandparents are dying unnecessarily because Distress's friends 711 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: have to make more money. I have. I have an 712 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: enormous amount of faith in the British people to just 713 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: do nothing like they they have, They have an unbelievable 714 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: ability to just be like a things are getting worse, 715 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: like I don't know who cares, like we're still British, 716 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: Like they like they can't even really effectively do imperialism anymore. 717 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 1: But it's like everyone so wedded to the like imperialism 718 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: machine that everyone that like, you know, everyone, every everyone 719 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 1: will constantly vote against their class interests, everyone will constantly 720 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 1: act agains a class interest. Everyone will constantly just sort 721 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: of like literally let hundreds of thousands of people die 722 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:32,399 Speaker 1: around them. Yeah. Yeah, because flags and sports, I think 723 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:37,240 Speaker 1: Corbin has and energized a lot of people into realizing 724 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,399 Speaker 1: their class interests, perhaps more than they were before because 725 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: there was briefly a parliamentary alternative, but right now there isn't. 726 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: Like kiss Down is not Jeremy Corbyn, but then you know, 727 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 1: but it's also the British right, like it's like, well okay, 728 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: so they sort of reconsolidated and left it did nothing, 729 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 1: got owned and then imploded and now it's being split 730 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,919 Speaker 1: between like just complete pure like people arguing that star 731 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:04,439 Speaker 1: members doing socialism like your Labor Party hacks, and then 732 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: like a bunch of people just doing nothing because it's 733 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 1: the UK and it fundamentally never gets any better. Yeah, yeah, 734 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,879 Speaker 1: there was like I take a little bit of hope 735 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 1: from like have you seen the the where people are 736 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,359 Speaker 1: to be deported from the UK and then they were 737 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: like mass mobilizations to prefriend happening. Yeah, that gives me 738 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: some hope. Right, that's a lot of people willing to 739 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: give up this Saturday or the Sunday to shout immigration 740 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 1: offices and like that's something that didn't happen by and 741 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 1: large in the in the US right, even with the 742 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 1: like gross abuses of the immigration system under Donald Trump, 743 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 1: people people didn't stop that happening. So some of that 744 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: it did happen in places like there are a lot 745 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: of flights that got blocked and stuff. Yeah, I guess, 746 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, yeah, it happened. Is visible then, yeah, 747 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: in a different way, some people here did so, like 748 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,720 Speaker 1: in I think there was an icing and barrial logan 749 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: and it got run out of town. So I shouldn't 750 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: say that, but that gives me hope, as we hope 751 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 1: that maybe some people will realize that, like, the solution 752 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: is not to vote harder right, and the solution is 753 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,439 Speaker 1: to is to organize and to do things in extra 754 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: parliamentary fashion and not trust the people who are participating 755 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 1: in your exploitation to leave you from your exploitation, which 756 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 1: has maybe been our mistake for too long. Yeah, we 757 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: we Everyone in England needs to take a page from 758 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,320 Speaker 1: the Harry Potter books and arm the children to murder 759 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: government officials. If I'm remembering how those books ended for 760 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: for for form a gerrilla army of you and your 761 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:39,839 Speaker 1: friends and attempt to overthrow the governments Harry Potter. Probably Yeah, 762 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 1: let's let's say that's that's that's that's the plot of 763 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: the Order of the Phoenix. Okay, yeah, I remember it 764 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: now when they when they do a car bomb. Yeah, 765 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 1: that's it. That's so. That's that's our message for you today. 766 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: Read Harry Potter to a car bomb. There we go, 767 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,240 Speaker 1: There we go. That's our legally binding message for you today, 768 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: non actionable for red. 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