1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:02,559 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: You need to glisten what you need to glisten? 3 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: According to Sean Crimes, what does that mean? 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: Pregnant mom Cassie Ventirol on the stand under oath, reliving 5 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: humiliating sex acts she was forced. 6 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: To perform with strangers on video. 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: It's all about Ditty's foul fetish. I'm Nancy Grace. This 8 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for being 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: with us. We are live at the courthouse going straight 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: out to Lauren Conlin, investigative reporter host of Pop Crime TV. 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: Lauren, thank you for being with us. What's happening in 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: court today? 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 3: We are learning about what a vile human Diddy is. 14 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 4: As if we didn't already know. 15 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 3: Cassie is still on the stand, and we are actually 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: seeing never before seen photographs of black eyes fatless. We 17 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: actually saw a photo of her eyebrow after she told 18 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: us that when she was sleeping one night, Diddy came 19 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 3: in and just attacked her and her friends and threw 20 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 3: her against a bed, the corner of a bed where 21 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 3: she split her eyebrow open. And that's not all, Nancy. 22 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 3: We are learning that Cassie experienced mouthswords during these freakoffs, 23 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 3: many utiys, and she sat up there on the stand 24 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 3: and told us that she was expected to go through 25 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 3: with these freakoffs while she had these beaut eyes. I mean, 26 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 3: is it is heartbreaking and just painful to listen to. 27 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: What does she say? How does she respond? What is 28 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: her demeanor? 29 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 3: I mean she says over and over here Nancy, how 30 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 3: young she was, and how regretful she is, and what 31 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 3: she could have said at the time, but she was 32 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 3: so young that she didn't know how to verbalize it. 33 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 3: She did break down on the stand a few times. 34 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 3: Day two, Day three, we aren't seeing her as emotional. 35 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: She appears to be very strong, but again she is saying, 36 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 3: over and over, I wish I never did this. I 37 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 3: wish I did things differently. She's incredibly strong. I mean, 38 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 3: think about it. She is up there, eight months pregnant, 39 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 3: with two toddlers at home, having to relive the most 40 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 3: humiliating and terrifying time of her life. And Nancy, I mean, 41 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: what Cassie van Tura went through. I want justice for Cassie. 42 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 3: Here I will say it. I want justice for Cassie. 43 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: She is truly heroic, and I mean she is you 44 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 3: can tell she's a little uncomfortable, of course physically and 45 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: of course emotionally, but she's not holding back. 46 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 5: I mean. 47 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 3: There was another instance that she spoke about where she 48 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 3: appeared to take too much GHB. She described going into 49 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 3: a g hole. This is before a freak off, and 50 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 3: she described waking up nude in the shower with Diddy 51 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 3: and another escort hovering over her, freaking out. She kind 52 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 3: of comes to and I'm thinking, Okay, they're going to 53 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 3: take her to a hospital at this point. 54 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 4: Nope. Jeddy says, you're ready for the freak off. 55 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: Wow, okay, So a lot to take here in Lauren 56 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 2: Colin has been in the court of the entire day 57 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: and is telling us what the jury is hearing from 58 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: the witness stand. You stated that Cassie Ventira described earlier 59 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: today being in a g hole that's from GHB, gemma 60 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: hyjoxy buteray, which is a date rape drug, completely passed 61 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: out and as soon as she comes to naked in 62 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: a shower, Sean com says, okay, let's go. She also 63 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: described being forced to perform in free coughs when she 64 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: was on her period and she didn't want to, but 65 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: she did. She also described Lauren Conlin, where she would 66 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: basically have to drug herself to get through yet another freak. 67 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: Cough Lauren Conlin. 68 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I mean she really seemed to live a 69 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 3: very existence for eleven years of her life, and I 70 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 3: think many of us watching here all feel the same way. 71 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 4: I mean, justice for Cassie Nancy. 72 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: She also described a time in con where she was 73 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 3: at the Con Film Festival and she was staying on 74 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: a boat with Sean Holmes and he got upset with 75 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: her that morning. He kicks her off a boat without 76 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 3: her shoes, without her passport, anything. She has to walk 77 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 3: over to the staff hotel and she doesn't see him 78 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 3: until learn it later that evening, and then we're shown 79 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 3: a picture of her on the red carpet looking glam 80 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 3: at the Con Film Festival. She described that she has 81 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 3: some bruises covered up with makeup, and she sits through 82 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 3: this premiere with Sean where he is squeezing her leg 83 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 3: as hard as he can while she's wearing this beat 84 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 3: a dress. She gets on a plane, she tries not 85 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 3: to sit next to him. 86 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 4: He switches seats. 87 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: With somebody in order to sit with her, and then 88 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 3: during that slight Nancy, he proceeds to torment her by 89 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 3: showing her freak off videos and threatening her. Okay, and 90 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 3: there are other people around, and then they land in 91 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 3: New York City and then they go to dinner and 92 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 3: she says after that, I was expected to do a 93 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 3: freak off and my stomach is I mean, my stomach 94 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 3: is turning. 95 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 2: We are live at the courthouse and now also joining 96 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: as Sydney Sumner crimeonline dot Com investigative reporter. The evidence 97 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: has been pouring from the witness stand all day. There 98 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: were thoughts so that we would get to cassievterior cross examination. 99 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: Her direct examination is a bomb in that courtroom, Sydney Sumner. 100 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: What else is happening in the courtroom? 101 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,799 Speaker 5: Well, Nancy. In addition to what Lauren told us, we've 102 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 5: also heard about an instance of abuse in twenty thirteen, 103 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 5: when Combs attacked Cassie in her own apartment while her 104 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 5: friends were there. Her friends moved to protect her, jumped 105 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 5: on Comb's back, but at one point Comb's through passy 106 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 5: into the side of her bed, causing a gash in 107 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 5: her eyebrow. Combs how to security guards take Kathy to 108 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 5: go get the wound closed by a plastic surgeon. And 109 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 5: she sent him a photo of that injury afterwards, saying, 110 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 5: here's the picture so you can remember what you did 111 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 5: to me. And Comb's response was, you don't know when 112 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 5: to stop. You have pushed it too far and continue 113 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 5: to push bad. 114 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: Isn't it true? 115 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 2: Sydney Sumner that after that incident, the friendship between Cassie 116 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 2: Ventura and the friend dwindled away because of Seawan Coins. 117 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 5: Yes, Cassy talks about how isolating this romantic relationship with 118 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 5: Colb's was because all of her friends couldn't stand to 119 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 5: watch her stay with him and watch the continued physical 120 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 5: abuse psychological abuse against someone they care. She wouldn't leave 121 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 5: him because she loved him so much, and her friends 122 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 5: just they couldn't stay around and. 123 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 2: Watch baby oil, Baby oil? Will we never hear the 124 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: end of baby oil? In the courtroom is being pervasive 125 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: today as well, Lauren Colin. 126 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 4: It's getting crazy. 127 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 3: I mean, the talk of baby oil, and I'm not 128 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 3: even trying to be funny. 129 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 4: The talk of baby oil got. 130 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 3: To a point where they had to have a sidebar, 131 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 3: Thank goodness. Tenny Garrigos objected because at one point Emily 132 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 3: Johnson doing a great job as the prosecutor. She's questioning 133 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: Cassie and she probably questioned her for about ten minutes 134 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: about baby oil, and it got to the point where 135 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 3: Cassie had to tell us that she hum pms Sean 136 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 3: Colmes made her get into a blow up pool of 137 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 3: baby oil and astroglide with all of her clothes on, 138 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 3: and then we had to hear about how many bottles 139 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 3: of baby oil they went through during a freak off, 140 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 3: which by the way, was ten, and she described they 141 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: were the big size bottles. 142 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 4: I mean, there's so much more. 143 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: I didn't bring my notepad out, but I mean a 144 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: lot of us are wondering, what does this have to 145 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 3: do with anything? Are they just trying to corroborate the 146 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: freak offs when other witnesses come on the stand and 147 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 3: talk about this baby oil and astroglide. It's really really strange. 148 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 3: But I am I'm wondering when we are going to 149 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 3: hear more about his criminal enterprise, about the sex trafficking, 150 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: the transportation across state lines, because right now Cassie is 151 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 3: giving really really tragic testimony and I feel awful for her. 152 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 4: This is horrible, but it definitely is. 153 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 3: It's seeming to me so far again, so far, it's 154 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 3: just seeming like it is a lot of domestic violence, 155 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 3: a lot of assaults and awfulness. 156 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 4: I mean, he treated. 157 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: Her horribly, horribly, horribly. 158 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 4: He's a vile man. 159 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 3: I'm just trying to figure out when we're going to 160 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 3: start really getting into these charges. I mean, right now, 161 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: I'm in the overflow room, and people in the overflow 162 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 3: room are kind of like, what's what's going on? 163 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 4: What are we what are we listening to? 164 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean at another point, she asked, Cassie, 165 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 3: you know, why did you continue to participate in these 166 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: freak offs or why did you say yes to a 167 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: freak off? 168 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 4: And Cassie actually, under. 169 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 3: Her breath, was like, good question, but she broke down 170 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 3: crying on the stands and it was awful. 171 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 4: It was so awful. 172 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 3: She you know, she just talked about how much she 173 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 3: loved Sean Colmes and how you know, she did these 174 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 3: freak offs so she could be with him, and that 175 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 3: is just really sad. 176 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate your perspective, but let's go to trial 177 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: lawyer Nima Romani joining us out of LA former federal 178 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 2: prosecutor turned trial lawyer, president of West Coast Trial lawyers 179 00:09:53,720 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: and author of Harvard to hashtag nima what a layperson sees. 180 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: They don't understand necessarily that what is happening right now 181 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 2: is proving sex trafficking and rico. Normally we see which 182 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: are the most serious charges that comes is facing rico, 183 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 2: which is racketeering. We normally see that apply to the mob, right, 184 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 2: a criminal enterprise like they have a vast criminal enterprise 185 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 2: involving stolen goods, prostitution, counterfeit, money laundering, even murder, and 186 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 2: there are many. 187 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: I mean, we've all. 188 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 2: Seen Sopranos, right, that was a criminal enterprise for more 189 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: than one person, multiple people work to advance. Let's just 190 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: pretend Tony Sopranos criminal enterprise, right, He was the boss, 191 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 2: it was his enterprise, and all those people worked for him. 192 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 2: So what we're hearing, I know we've said in a 193 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: million times baby oil really baby oil to be used 194 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 2: in an illegal act, which is flying in escorts male 195 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: and female from other cities, buzzword flying, interstate commerce, using texts, 196 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: using online to find the escorts, wired transmission. 197 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: See where I'm going with this. 198 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: Who went to get the baby oil, who paid for it? 199 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 2: Who paid the sex workers? Who set up the scene 200 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 2: for illegal freak offs. All of thats prostitution equals moving 201 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 2: people across state lines for purposes of prostitution. That is 202 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: a criminal enterprise. That's the point that jury may not. 203 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: Be getting it yet. 204 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 2: But when Emily Johnson explains what the law is and says, 205 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 2: this is transporting across state lines. This person worked for 206 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 2: Seawan Combs. This person paid the sex workers, this person. 207 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: Bought the baby old. 208 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 2: I mean, what did Shaun Holmes get a blow up 209 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 2: pool himself and blow it up, impouring heated baby oil? 210 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 2: Hgl n O. He pays somebody to do that? Hints 211 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 2: criminal enterprise. 212 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: You explain it. 213 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 6: Nancy, You're absolutely right. And as prosecutors, former prosecutors, we 214 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 6: know these are the elements of the crime. Let's just 215 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 6: go through them. Sex trafficking. You need that force, fraud 216 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 6: or coercion, the force right beating Cassie, throwing her against 217 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 6: the bed, that gash. We're gonna have independent witnesses, the 218 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 6: plastic surgeon, members of his security team. They are going 219 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 6: to testify to that the coersion givings drugs. 220 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: I just heard you say, plastic surgeon. 221 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 6: What the plastic surgeon that Cassie went to see to 222 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 6: fix the gash in her eye. There's gonna be medical records, Nancy, 223 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 6: independent evidence to support her allegations. That's what you want 224 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 6: if you're the government. Let's talk about the coorden. 225 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 2: When you hear Lauren Colin talking name of Ramani, when 226 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 2: you hear her talk to you like I'm sick baby oil, 227 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: We're all looking at each other thinking, where are we 228 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: really going to hear the evidence about sex trafficking. You 229 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: are hearing it right now, Break it down, Nima. 230 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: This is it. This is sex trafficking. 231 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 6: You give someone drugs so much that they throw up, 232 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 6: and they're forced to perform sex over a matter of days, 233 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 6: sometimes up to four days. 234 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: That is coercion. 235 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 7: Lauren, and I love Lauren. 236 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 6: You urinate in someone's mouth, that is coercion. You force 237 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 6: someone to have sex on her period when she's bleeding 238 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 6: all over the bed sheet, that is coercion. It's not 239 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 6: just about the baby oil. It's not just about the vomit. 240 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 6: It's not just about the urine and the blood. No 241 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 6: human being could consent to this. The defensive argument is consent. 242 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 6: This is what the government is proving. 243 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: And like you so wait a minute, wait a minute, 244 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: Nama Romani. When you say and I don't want to 245 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: go too, have come for on the law here. 246 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 2: But when you say sex with Cassie Ventira without her consent, 247 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: that's rape. But I'm not proving a rape case right now. 248 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 2: I'm talking about the state proving reco a criminal conspiracy, 249 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 2: a criminal enterprise and what the jury. 250 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: Is hearing right now. As a matter of fact, Sidney. 251 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 2: Sumner, it's so upsetting what they're seeing these videos that 252 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: they've had to put up privacy monitors in the last 253 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: hours in court so everybody doesn't see the videos that 254 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 2: the jury is seeing. 255 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: Isn't that true, Sydney. 256 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 5: That is true, Nancy. We expect the prosecutors to play 257 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 5: some of these freak off tapes for the jury in 258 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 5: the next hours. They already tried to play them, but 259 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 5: there were some technical difficulties, so they decided to try 260 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 5: and work on those and continue with a different line 261 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 5: of questioning. So videos we're going to come up and 262 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 5: court very very soon. We see that reporters are scrambling 263 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 5: to actually get a seat in the courtroom instead of 264 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 5: the overflow rooms so they can watch the jury as 265 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 5: these videos are played. 266 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: The goal trying to use the Bible, the Holy Bible, 267 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: as a prop There was only. 268 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 4: One God in Diddy's world, and that. 269 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 5: Was even Satan quoted scripture in the Bible, and at 270 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 5: the end of the day, he was still the devil. 271 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 2: Cassievententira, still on the witness stand. At the end of 272 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 2: the day, the testimony and video so upsetting that privacy 273 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: monitors have been put up to shield cameras and journalists 274 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: everyone out of the audience from seeing what the jury 275 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 2: is seeing. Okay, joining me at the courthouse is Lauren Conlin, 276 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 2: also with us on the trial from the get go, 277 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 2: Sidney Sumner, Nima. What I'm trying to tell you is 278 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 2: that while Lauren Conlin points out that everybody in the 279 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: overflow room, while the journalists are saying, well, when are 280 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: we going to be done with baby oil? When are 281 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: we going to talk about sex trafficking, We're talking about 282 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: sex trafficking right now. Cassie Ventira doesn't have to say 283 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: people were sex trafficked, there was a conspiracy. This is 284 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: a reco case. We don't expect that. We expect the 285 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: prosecutor to take the evidence from the witness stand, explain 286 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 2: the law to the jury and explain why what they're 287 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 2: hearing if they believe Cassie Ventira equals sex trafficking and 288 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 2: racketeering charges. 289 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: Okay, listen to this. 290 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 8: Cassie says Combs wanted her glistening at all times and 291 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 8: had her reapply heated baby oil as often as every 292 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 8: five minutes, and during one performance, even made her get 293 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 8: into a kiddie. 294 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: Pool of baby oil. 295 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 8: Afterwards, staff member were charged with cleaning up but with 296 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 8: baby oil and bodily fluids all over the floors, walls, 297 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 8: and door handles. Cole's was frequently charged for damages to 298 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 8: hotel rooms, negotiations handled by Combe's assistance. 299 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: Okay, you know I want to fight with Nimo Romani 300 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,479 Speaker 2: right now about six trafficking, but I can't ignore that 301 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany Marshall joining us. 302 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: Are now psychoanalysts. 303 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 2: I don't know what you're smiling about, Romani, but that's 304 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 2: a whole other can of worms. Doctor Marshall a psychoanalyst 305 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 2: out of LA, author of deal Breaker. You can see 306 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,479 Speaker 2: her now on Peacock and find her at doctor Bethany 307 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 2: Marshall dot com. Dr Bethany just forcing Cassie Ventira to 308 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: engage in freak offfs during her period, forcing her out 309 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 2: of a shower where she's having cold water sprayed on 310 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 2: her after going down a g hole from GHB. 311 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 1: And saying, Okay, you're ready, get back in there. 312 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 2: It's like putting a boxer who's bleeding from the face 313 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: and all two big black eyes cut open and. 314 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: Put back in the ring. 315 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 2: Now we hear about a kiddie pool, a blown up 316 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 2: kittie pool full of warm baby oil. 317 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: That Cassiyeventier had to get into. 318 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: What woman on this jury is going to think any 319 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 2: of that is consensual. 320 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:15,959 Speaker 1: It's not consensual, Nancy. 321 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 9: And what you're pointing out is correct is that this 322 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 9: is not simply just a domestic violence case. 323 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 4: Two people who are. 324 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 9: Romantically connected, yet there maybe one partner gets jealous or possessive. 325 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: He is sex trafficking her. He takes away her shoes, takes. 326 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 9: Away her purse, uses threats and intimidation to have control 327 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 9: over her. This is absolutely sex trafficking. In terms of 328 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 9: that baby oil, I think it's fascinating. If he can 329 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 9: only achieve arousal and ejaculate when looking at somebody with 330 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 9: baby oil on, then that technically would fit under the 331 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 9: category of a perversion, but I think he has multiple perversions. 332 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 9: What I really think is going on is that somehow 333 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 9: baby oil has become a associated with experiences of arousal, 334 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 9: which made me wonder, like, what were his early experiences 335 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 9: in life? I mean, how long has he been using 336 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 9: baby oil? Was baby ole used as a part of 337 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 9: a masturbatory ritual starting when he. 338 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 4: Was really young? 339 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 9: Did his mother use baby oil when he was an 340 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 9: infant and somehow that got eroticized or sexualized? I mean, 341 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 9: this is so fascinating to me as a clinician because 342 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 9: there's all kinds of meanings underneath this. 343 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 2: You know, I'm glad you're the shrink and not me, 344 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 2: because I'm not really fascinated by a woman on her 345 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 2: period being forced to engage in a freak off with 346 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 2: a group of sex partners, male escorts that have been 347 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 2: flown in from out of state. I'm not really fascinating 348 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 2: with that, But I do I do want justice. 349 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: This is like. 350 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 2: A cornucopia. It's a Freudian freak show. I don't even 351 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 2: know what all of this means. And you know what, 352 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 2: doctor Bethany, no offense to you, but I don't care 353 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 2: what it means psychologically, I care if I or the 354 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 2: prosecutor can prove the case. And what Cassie Venturi's testimony 355 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 2: proves sex trafficking and rico. That's racketeering charges usually reserved 356 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 2: for the mob. 357 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: Okay, so how are they going to prove it? Listen? 358 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 10: Prosecutor Emily Johnson briefly pauses Cassie's narrative testimony to make 359 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 10: a point. Whose decision was it to have freak offs? 360 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 10: Whose decision was it to involve baby oil? Whose decision 361 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 10: was it to use male sex workers? Whose decision was 362 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 10: it to pour hot wax on your body? Cassie's answer 363 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 10: remained the same Shawn's. 364 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace. 365 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,239 Speaker 10: Prosecutor Emily Johnson briefly pauses Cassie's narrative testimony to make 366 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 10: a point. Whose decision was it to have freakoffs? Whose 367 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 10: decision was it to involve baby oil? Whose decision was 368 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 10: it to use male sex workers? Whose decision was it 369 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 10: to pour hot wax on your body? Cassie's answer remained 370 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 10: the same Shawn's. 371 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 2: That is pointing to name Romani the head of the organization. 372 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 2: If Sean Holmes is only convicted of a rape. That's 373 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 2: going to be a cake walk for him. He'll get that, 374 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 2: He'll get at least two thirds of his time knocked off. 375 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: He'll be out in five years. 376 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 2: Okay, the fans want the prize of racketeering and sex 377 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 2: trafficking listen. 378 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,959 Speaker 8: Cassie mentioned staff would set up Comb's hotel rooms for freakoffs, 379 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 8: prepping rooms with baby oil lighting, and other requests, specifically 380 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 8: in security guards, Roger Bond's uncle, Polly Fahim Malik, and 381 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 8: d Rock being sent to track her down or ordered 382 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 8: to take her belongings. Cassie also says bad Boy exec 383 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 8: Tony Fletcher handled her finances for several years and Christina 384 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 8: Korum discussed many personal details with her. 385 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: Tom Smith is joining me. 386 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:19,719 Speaker 2: Former NYPD detective thirty years in narcotics robbery gang, also 387 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 2: with the FBI NYPD Joint Terrorism Task Force. He is 388 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 2: the co host of Gold Shiels podcast. Tom, thank you 389 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 2: for being with us. 390 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: Okay, did you. 391 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 2: Hear all those people that are helping Shawn Combs affect 392 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 2: the freak coughs from buying baby oil lighting, prepping the rooms, 393 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 2: security guards, Roger Bond's uncle, Polly Fareim Malik, d Rock 394 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: sent to track down Cassie Ventura, take her belongings if 395 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 2: she doesn't show up to a freak cough. You've got 396 00:22:55,480 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 2: someone handling her finances for Shawn Combs, and you have 397 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 2: the hits person, Christina Korum, who denies any involvement, also 398 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 2: in the mix. All right, that's what we call Tom 399 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 2: Smith co conspirators explain. 400 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 11: Yes, And you're exactly right. And when you begin any investigation, 401 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 11: especially this one, Nancy, who's the boss? That is what 402 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 11: every detective and every prosecutor is going to look at 403 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 11: when you're dealing with a rico case. Who is dictating, 404 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 11: who does what, Who's orchestrating it, Who's coordinating these sex 405 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 11: trafficking acts that are going on, the freaks off and everything. 406 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 11: That's what is important here, and that's what's going to 407 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 11: come out in a trial. It's just a build up. 408 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 11: It's like building a house the couple of first days 409 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 11: of the other foundation, and then it's going to go 410 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 11: and all this is going to be laid out in 411 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 11: court about Sean Comb's coordinating every single thing that happened 412 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 11: with these people, with these acts. 413 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 10: Prosecutor Emily Johnson briefly pauses Cassie's narrative testimony to make 414 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 10: a point. Whose decision was it to have freak offs, 415 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 10: Whose decision was it to involve baby oil, Whose decision 416 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 10: was it to use male sex workers? Whose decision was 417 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 10: it to pour hot wax on your body? Gussie's answers 418 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 10: remained the same Shawn's. 419 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 2: We are live at the Federal Courthouse in Manhattan, Shaan 420 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 2: Comb's aka Puffy aka Puff aka puff Daddy aka Love 421 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 2: aka Diddy, and the list goes on on trial in 422 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 2: the multi count federal indictment, including some of the most 423 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: serious charges that can be leveled by the federal government, 424 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 2: including racketeering, rico rco transportation to engage in prostitution, to 425 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 2: count sex trafficking. We are learning from Cassie Ventura's testimony 426 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 2: throughout the day that comes would become volatile angry when 427 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 2: she would be drugged. 428 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: In order to perform the freak offs. 429 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 2: Joining us live Sidney Sumner, so they explain what Cassie 430 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 2: had to say about why she would get numbed on 431 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 2: drugs Nancy. 432 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 5: Cassy said that she could not get through those freakoffs 433 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 5: without being on some kind of drug so that she 434 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 5: didn't have to fully understand what was happening around her. 435 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 5: Cassie said she used the drugs to associate. Now we 436 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 5: know that Cone hated this, evidenced by text messages in 437 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 5: between the couple. Loones told her that he wanted to 438 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 5: do freak offs without the tetanine. Cassy said that was 439 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 5: almost her drug of choice almost every time, because she 440 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 5: said it was the most dissociative of the things that 441 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 5: she took, but she also mentioned things like marijuana, mushrooms, 442 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 5: and more. Opioids were another big choice. Ventura says she 443 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 5: was almost addicted to opioids because of how frequently she 444 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 5: used them to get through these freakoffs. But we see 445 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 5: text messages between them with Comb's berating Cassie for using 446 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 5: drugs during the breakoffs. He said, they don't count if 447 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 5: she doesn't remember them. 448 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 2: Oh my stars, so the free counts. The freak coffs 449 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 2: don't count if she doesn't remember them. Sidney Sumner, didn't 450 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 2: we hear Cassie earlier today state that she had so 451 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 2: many urinary tract infections from the freak coughs that she 452 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 2: had to get super powerful antibiotics because the regular antibiotics 453 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 2: for UTIs no longer worked for her. 454 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 5: Yes, we heard that from Cassie as well. She said 455 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 5: that the UTIs were frequent and she was forced to 456 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 5: perform in the freak offs anyway. She said it was 457 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 5: incredibly painful and just continued to make the UTI the 458 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 5: infection even worse. She says that the usual antibiotic prescribed 459 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 5: for UTI patients stopped working for her. She became resistant 460 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 5: to that antibiotic and had to be moved onto stronger 461 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 5: and stronger drugs. 462 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 2: The testimony gut wrenching and emotional, and at one point 463 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 2: earlier today, Ventura is shown a series of photos. Now, 464 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 2: as odious as the photos may be, the point of 465 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 2: the photos is to show legally that this is a 466 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 2: criminal enterprise. It's not just Sean Comb's raping or sodomizing 467 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 2: or directing someone else to rape or sodomize Cassie Ventura. 468 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: There are other people involved. 469 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 2: Why is that significant that is required to prove a 470 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 2: RICO case? To Lauren Colin, I understand you're not happy 471 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 2: with all the baby oil testimony, but what more can 472 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 2: you tell me about Cassie Ventura's testimony on the stand. 473 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: Before you answer that question, I want you to hear this. 474 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 8: She was tasked with finding escorts for the freak offs, 475 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 8: but Combs always demanded to approve them. She typically handed 476 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 8: the escorts their cash, but the money came from Colmbs. 477 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 8: The cash and delivered by staff members. Combs always double checked, 478 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 8: but Cassie had verified the escorts weren't undercover cops, and 479 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 8: that's when it hit her that the situation was not legal. 480 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 12: Mail escorts she procured online participated in frea co coffs 481 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 12: in several states. The company travel agents arrange flights and transportation. 482 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 12: Cassie says she would tell the travel agent she needed 483 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 12: to arrange a new employees transportation to avoid too many questions. 484 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 2: Calling the sex workers new employees to avoid the appearance 485 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 2: of impropriety. Obviously illegal to transport sex workers across state 486 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 2: lines for the purposes of prostitution. These people were paid 487 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 2: to have sex paid by Sean Combs. 488 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: The key words in her. 489 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: Testimony online, which is wire transactions, which is federal offense 490 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 2: of its illegal, participated in FREA coffs in multiple states. 491 00:28:54,360 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: Cassie Ventura became concerned that what was happening was ill legal. 492 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 2: Back to you, Lauren Colin, now that you've heard that, 493 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 2: I want to point out that the different escorts were 494 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 2: in the photos that Cassie was shown today, what we. 495 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 3: Saw from Cassie on the stand was so emotional and 496 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 3: also so eye opening. Cassie was shown multiple photos of 497 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 3: different esports that she and Diddy allegedly used in their freakoffs, 498 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 3: and Cassie had to identify them by name and then 499 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 3: speak about how these escorts traveled with she and Ditty 500 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 3: for freakoffs to different. 501 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 2: Locations, different locations, hiring escorts from other state, even booking travel, 502 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 2: Is that right, Lauren commin Now? 503 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 3: She went through who arranged what travel and she actually 504 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 3: mentioned that at one point a travel agent booked the 505 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 3: travel of an esport and they told the travel agent 506 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,959 Speaker 3: that this escort was an employee of Didi, so they 507 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 3: wouldn't ask questions. 508 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: To Nima Romani. 509 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 2: The buzzwords that are going to be reiterated to the 510 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 2: jury and closing arguments across state lines online, paying them, 511 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 2: you're orchestrating a criminal enterprise, because see that's what Giara 512 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 2: Ghos has been screaming from the get go. Yes he's 513 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 2: a bad boyfriend, Yes he may have coerced Cassie Ventira 514 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 2: into sex, translation rape, but that does not make a 515 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 2: sex trafficking case. 516 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: Okay, another chance to Nima Romani. 517 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 2: What are they doing with Cassie's testimony here? 518 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 6: Well, when it comes to Rico, we're talking about a 519 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 6: criminal enterprise, and that has to be a loose association 520 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 6: of two or more people. Doesn't have to be the mob, 521 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 6: doesn't have to be the cartel, doesn't have to be 522 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 6: a street game. 523 00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 4: We saw it in the r Kelly case. 524 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 6: It is entourage is enough, and then you need those 525 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 6: two or more reco predicated acts assault. Right, it's not 526 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 6: a federal offense, but it's a reco predicated act. 527 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 2: Can I please, can I plase state that in simple words? 528 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: You said predicate acts? 529 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 2: Okay, it can't just be people paling around, Okay. 530 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: There has to be an overt act. 531 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 2: There has to be a crime associated with the friendship 532 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 2: the criminal enterprise. In this case, the predicate act would 533 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,719 Speaker 2: be rape or sodomy or paying sex workers. Right, So 534 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 2: there's your crime, and then you have to have the 535 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 2: association that is. 536 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: Furthering the crime. Does that make sense to name. 537 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 6: Of of course, you need to pattern a racketeering activity, 538 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 6: but all that is is two crimes within a ten 539 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 6: year period. That's all you need for RICO. 540 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 4: And like you said, Nancy, some of these are state. 541 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 7: Crimes, but they can become federal crimes if there's an 542 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 7: inter state component, so the prostitution across state lines, if 543 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 7: there's money involved, that's the commerce clause of the Constitution. 544 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 7: So you need a federal hook to make some of 545 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 7: these crimes federal crimes. We're obviously in federal court, so 546 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 7: when it's the sex trafficking, the prostitution, the RICO, there 547 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 7: has to be that federal element. 548 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 4: And that's what we're talking about all this. 549 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 2: So while a lot of this testimony is graphic and disturbing, 550 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 2: For instance, Lauren Collin was just accurately reporting that earlier today, 551 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 2: Cassie Ventiro has shown pictures. 552 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: Of male escorts. 553 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 2: Right, we learned from her testimony, and Sidney Sumner correct 554 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong. We learned from her testimony that 555 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 2: she would be asked to go online find the male escorts. 556 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 2: Then she would have to show the photos to Sean Combs. 557 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 2: He would actually approve which men were transported to the location. 558 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: Is that right, Sidney Sumner? 559 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 5: Absolutely, Nancy, that's correct, And. 560 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 2: Nima Romani, I keep reiterating this for a reason. 561 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: Let me see Nima, nima, the state. 562 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 2: If they just get a rape conviction, that's a conviction, 563 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 2: a titular conviction at best, a nominal conviction. They're going 564 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 2: for the prize they want Shawn comes behind. 565 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: Bars for life. 566 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 2: The only way that's going to happen is if they 567 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 2: get a conviction on sex trafficking or rico, racketeering, criminal enterprise. 568 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 2: They're going for the prize here, and if Cassie is 569 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 2: to be believed, and I think she is, they've done it. 570 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: I believe it. 571 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 6: And prostitution, You're right, Nancy, this would be a loss 572 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,959 Speaker 6: for the government, a pretty tremendous one. The RICO and 573 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 6: sex trafficking, those have the serious penalties. 574 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 1: Rico is a potential life sentence. 575 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 6: Sex trafficking with forced Nancy, that's a fifteen year mandatory minimum. 576 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: Sentence up to life. 577 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,239 Speaker 6: That's why you see them focus on those counts and 578 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 6: not so much the prostitution. That's just the throw it. 579 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: Crime stories. 580 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 8: With Nancy Grace, his eyes went black and the person 581 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 8: that she loved was no longer there. Cassie says afterwards 582 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 8: she was still very numb from the drugs but felt 583 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 8: dirty and confused. Cassie didn't want to make Combs angry 584 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 8: by telling him she didn't like it. The freak offts 585 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 8: quickly became a weekly event, with the actual escapade lasting 586 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 8: roughly two to three days with no sleep. 587 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 10: And the recovery taking just as long. She quickly determined 588 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 10: she no longer wanted to participate in the freak offs, 589 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 10: especially with how regular they became. But I didn't know 590 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 10: how to refuse Colmbs quote. It got to the point 591 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 10: where I just didn't feel like I had much of 592 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 10: a choice. Didn't really know what no could be or 593 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 10: what no could turn into. Bina says she didn't know 594 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 10: if Combs would be violent or followed through on threads 595 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 10: to release the recordings of the encounters. 596 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: So far, he's just sounding like a pimp. 597 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 2: But when you analyze the testimony, there is sex trafficking. 598 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 2: A sex trafficking case, enner Rico case being made. 599 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: Out joining me now. 600 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 2: Rachel Fisher is with US anti trafficking expert featured in 601 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty two documentary Surviving Sex Trafficking. She is 602 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 2: a forensic nurse a sex assault nurse examiner. You can 603 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 2: find her at Legal Art inconsult dot Org. Rachel, I 604 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 2: was working up to you. You heard about the beatings, 605 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 2: you heard about the urinary tract infections, the being forced 606 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 2: to perform during her period. But also we learn Rachel, 607 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 2: that Cassie testified I think it was right after the 608 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 2: lunch break today, but Cassie testified that when she would 609 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 2: and pick her phone up, Comes would call over and 610 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 2: over and over again. If she still didn't pick up, 611 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 2: he would send he has hinch people to get her. 612 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 2: He would take away her possessions as punishment, like her car. 613 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 2: He would take away her phone, her laptop, and her 614 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 2: jewelry until he. 615 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: Thought she should get them back. 616 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 13: Okay, explain this is a very common tactic that traffickers 617 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 13: use with their victims in that element of control that 618 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 13: force frauden coercion, courasion being making something fair seeming that 619 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 13: isn't and using that fear of reputational harm, manipulation, not 620 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 13: being able to have access to the phone to call 621 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 13: the outside world, using an enforcer another person to be 622 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,280 Speaker 13: able to hold her accountable. So that's again engaging another 623 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 13: person to hold her to it, and then the engaging 624 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 13: in commercial sex acts. So the prostitution word has been said, 625 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 13: but forcing someone to engage in commercial sex acts as 626 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 13: part of that in trafficking and the performing labor for 627 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 13: sexual gratification, or perform sex acts for his gratification, her 628 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 13: not being able to have a choice in it because 629 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 13: she could be hurt by either him or his staff 630 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 13: acting in that enterprise. So there was that constant fear, 631 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 13: and we see that all the time, is if I 632 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 13: don't do this, or if I don't follow his commands, 633 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 13: there will be repercussions. As she's talked about all the 634 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 13: things that have happened and they're going to happen again, 635 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 13: And that's that fear that they constantly live under. 636 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 2: And you know, Rachel Fasher, a lot has been May 637 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,839 Speaker 2: we heard Lauren Collin talking about why do we keep 638 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 2: hearing about baby oil? She was directed, you have to 639 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 2: be quote glistening, and all of the sex workers, everybody 640 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 2: involved in the video Free Cops had to be literally 641 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 2: glowing in baby oil. It had to be reapplied over 642 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 2: and over and over to the point that the hotel 643 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 2: rooms would be damned and Combs would have to pay 644 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:07,280 Speaker 2: to get the hotel rooms professionally cleaned and repaired. After 645 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 2: free coughs but we also learned Rachel Fisher, I'd like 646 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 2: to hear your opinion on this, because this is so serious. 647 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: That if she did not comply. 648 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 2: Yes, he had given her two different places to live. 649 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: One was in New York and La. 650 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 2: She moved there because he wanted her to be close 651 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 2: to him, but if she displeased him in anyway, he 652 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:32,280 Speaker 2: would take the keys and physically kick her out. 653 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: And you heard earlier. 654 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 2: Being kicked out at the con Film Festival with no shoes, 655 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 2: left to wander the streets with no shoes, no id, no. 656 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: Credit cards, no anything. Explain that interpret that for us. 657 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,240 Speaker 13: That's that power and control dynamic. That's president domestic violence 658 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 13: that we see also in the sex trafficking realm, is 659 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 13: they use that power and control over their victims to 660 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 13: have them engage in commercial sex acts. That's where we 661 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 13: get that trafficking overlap with domestic violence. And you see 662 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 13: the passport being withheld, not able to have a place 663 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 13: to live, the basic needs. Those are vulnerabilities that they 664 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 13: target and so they exploit. Just as he did to her. 665 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 13: He exploited those vulnerabilities and used them as that coersion 666 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 13: of if you don't do this, these are the repercussions. 667 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 13: So that's controlling a person through withholding food, basic necessities, 668 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 13: not allowing them to talk to family, using physical harm 669 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 13: or restraint against her as the victims. 670 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: So there was a lot of that present throughout. 671 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 2: Sydney Sumner with US Crime Stories, Investigative reporter Cassie Ventira 672 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 2: later in the day read a series of texts What 673 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 2: was the significance fancy? 674 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 5: This stood out to me particularly to just show Combe's 675 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 5: cowardice and control over Cathy when she escaped that hotel 676 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 5: room on March fifth, twenty sixteen, because she had a 677 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 5: movie premiere and she was so worried that Combs would 678 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 5: make her face damaged ahead of her movie premiere that 679 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 5: she finally decided, you know what, No, I'm not going 680 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 5: back in that room. I'm calling security, find leaving. So 681 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 5: she manages to escape that hotel room, and Combs sends 682 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 5: her text messages over and over begging her to come 683 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 5: back because he claims the cops are showing up. He's surrounded. Please, 684 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 5: I've got six kids. Don't do this to me. Don't 685 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 5: take me down for this. I just I couldn't imagine 686 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,320 Speaker 5: what was going through her mind reading those text messages 687 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 5: after she already denied the security guard's offer to call police. 688 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 5: Later that day, a friend didn't consult her before calling police, 689 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 5: and when an officer showed up at her door, she 690 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,839 Speaker 5: refused to cooperate. She was never planning on sending Sean 691 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 5: Combs down, but she wanted to look presentable for her 692 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 5: movie premiere and he's begging her to come back, asking 693 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 5: her to consider his children after he beat her Sydney. 694 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 2: When we look at the hotel video from the Intercontinental, 695 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 2: there have been a lot of reports of why she's 696 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 2: trying to leave. What is her testimony? And this was 697 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 2: slowed down and played frame by frame for the jury. 698 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 2: Why was she leaving the hotel room? 699 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 5: So Cassie says that against her better judgment, she agreed 700 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,919 Speaker 5: to a freak off on March fifth, at Combe's request, 701 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 5: despite the fact that she had her first big movie 702 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 5: premiere coming up March seventh. The Perfect Match that she 703 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,240 Speaker 5: started was premiering and she was walking the red carpet 704 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 5: and she didn't want to compromise her appearance. She was 705 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 5: worried that during this freak off she would get hit 706 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 5: or punched or kicked, and she would have bruises on 707 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 5: her face for her premiere. Against her better judgment, she 708 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 5: agreed to this freak off, and just a few minutes in, 709 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 5: Combs did exactly what she feared. He hit her in 710 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,760 Speaker 5: the face. She had a bruise forming over her eye, 711 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 5: and she said, no, what, No, I'm not doing this. 712 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 5: I can't risk this anymore. I have to be able 713 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 5: to go to my premiere in two days. So she 714 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 5: grabs her belongings while Comb's is in the shower and 715 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 5: sneaks out of the room. We watch as she puts 716 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 5: her shoes on. She didn't even put shoes on before 717 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 5: she left the hotel room because she was trying to 718 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 5: get out without alerting Combs. And that's when he touches 719 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 5: her in the hallway trying to go down the elevator, 720 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 5: tries to drag her back into the room, and she 721 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 5: sticks to her guns and she calls security. So that's 722 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,399 Speaker 5: what Cassy says happened. We haven't seen anything about what 723 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:48,879 Speaker 5: the defense is claiming. 724 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 2: That video from our friends at CNN. Doctor Bethany Marshall, 725 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 2: what Mark Gerrigoes told me. His daughter Tenny is one 726 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 2: of the lead councils on Comes's defense Yeah, that wasn't 727 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:00,879 Speaker 2: a freak off at all happening in that room. 728 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 1: There was an. 729 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 2: Argument where Cassie became angry because Comb's got a text 730 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,280 Speaker 2: from another woman and that's why she was leaving. 731 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: But that's not what she says, you know, and you 732 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,280 Speaker 1: know when you know Gara goes. 733 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,320 Speaker 2: He's so affable and likable, but he has a job, 734 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,800 Speaker 2: and his job is to get Comb's. 735 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: Off or whoever his client is at the moment. 736 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 2: Those there's highly divergent versions about why she was trying 737 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 2: to get away. 738 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 9: You know, I think what was really happening Nancy is 739 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 9: that she had this premiere coming up, and if he 740 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 9: locked her into one of these freak offs, then he 741 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:37,240 Speaker 9: could maim. 742 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:43,879 Speaker 1: Hurt her, restrain her, control her. He was trying to put. 743 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 9: Her in an impaired positions so she couldn't get to 744 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 9: the premiere. 745 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 1: This is classic. This is sex trafficking. 746 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 9: One one separate the victim from anybody who could support them, 747 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 9: or anybody they could report the crime to. 748 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 2: We wait as just to sunfolds and remember an American hero, 749 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,479 Speaker 2: Trooper Frankie Williams, New Jersey State Police just thirty one, 750 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 2: struck and killed in the line of duty. Leaves behind 751 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 2: wife Kimberly, parents Victoria and Robert, American hero trooper Frankie Williams, 752 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 2: Nancy Gray signing off goodbye friend,