Speaker 1: Welcome to night Cap Takeover Week two. It is still
Speaker 1: a tea stead Takeover and I am joined by two
Speaker 1: legendary guests, well host co host excuse me, two legendary
Speaker 1: co hosts. This evening, I got the future Hall of
Speaker 1: Famer a dog Tea Sizzle, and I got the platinum
Speaker 1: recording artists out of Brooklyn, New York.
Speaker 2: My dog may know. What's going on?
Speaker 3: Fellas, what's happening?
Speaker 2: Are we feeling this? America?
Speaker 3: Five?
Speaker 4: Feeling good man?
Speaker 1: What's the fourth of July plans?
Speaker 2: Looking like we got the fourth tomorrow? What we're doing?
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm gonna float around a little bit. I've
Speaker 5: been on set shooting this all this TV show. Me
Speaker 5: and Shock and a couple of people been on there
Speaker 5: all so tomorrow I think that tomorrow's the last day.
Speaker 4: I'm looking for plate Bron.
Speaker 2: You can you tell us about the show that.
Speaker 5: It's a it's a mob Inspire show. It's the show
Speaker 5: that's already on on TV right now, so on it's
Speaker 5: on Amazon, I believe Prime, it's graves in it.
Speaker 4: It's already two seasons in. We on the third season.
Speaker 4: So we've been shooting for it for the last week.
Speaker 4: This this whole week rad what's the name of it again,
Speaker 4: graves In. So it's a mob show. It's about, you know,
Speaker 4: the Italian mafia back in the eighties.
Speaker 5: Shack is a gang some one of the goons, and
Speaker 5: you know, it's just the interaction between the white Italian
Speaker 5: mafia and some of the black dudes that was holding
Speaker 5: it down in that day.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's characters, his characters Mustafa.
Speaker 6: Oh wow, So how do they shoot that when you
Speaker 6: staying in to him? You know, sha like the biggest.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Shack is God's size.
Speaker 3: Like as a director, you would think, like, all right,
Speaker 3: do they give.
Speaker 6: You give you like apple boxes to stand on and
Speaker 6: something like that.
Speaker 4: You know, nah, I'm six steaks, so I'm a I'm,
Speaker 4: I'm I'm.
Speaker 3: Nobody's staying in the.
Speaker 6: Sha like, I mean, I've never felt so small in
Speaker 6: my life. Like I meant, like Nickelodeon Awards or something.
Speaker 6: He was like hosting and he was just the biggest
Speaker 6: human being. He had the like the biggest hands, like
Speaker 6: the biggest head. Was just like, I'm not finished standing
Speaker 6: next to this dude and with my mom, I'm not
Speaker 6: finishing this. His dude I'm with my woman, like to her,
Speaker 6: I'm the biggest man she ever seen.
Speaker 3: But then he comes fucking Shack. You know what I mean.
Speaker 6: I mean ring Shack got four and all them. Man,
Speaker 6: I'm like, nah, man, we got to move around.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to move away.
Speaker 6: From that, like that was the bigger that had more
Speaker 6: money and more accolades than me.
Speaker 3: Move around.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: We we we've seen you appearing in starring shows, movies,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: We rapping skills top top notch. How is how is
Speaker 2: Shack as an actor?
Speaker 4: You gotta remember Shaq been doing this.
Speaker 5: You gotta remember Shaq was in movies and back in
Speaker 5: the nineties, Shock Shack is done it at all. Right,
Speaker 5: we're talking basketball, we're talking racking, were talking rap.
Speaker 4: Let's not forget he was Yeah, let's not forget he
Speaker 4: was platting to work with Biggie nine.
Speaker 3: Every Shack album went platinum.
Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Back in those days when they was you know, when
Speaker 5: the Fool Schnickens and all that was out, and that
Speaker 5: was that's unheard of.
Speaker 6: For a person who's not really a rapper and he
Speaker 6: like got in the rack and for him to release
Speaker 6: and albums and all of them go playing like people
Speaker 6: don't understand how hard it is to go playing, Like
Speaker 6: if the album sold five hundred thousand albums, right, major success,
Speaker 6: you know what.
Speaker 5: I'm saying, right, right, right, right? I mean, listen, he
Speaker 5: he had a love for the culture. He come from
Speaker 5: the culture. Right, You don't have to actually be an
Speaker 5: artist to come from culture. You growing up, we come
Speaker 5: from the same kind of backgrounds. We all played basketball
Speaker 5: on crates. We all went to school and tried to
Speaker 5: play ball. And at the same time we was on
Speaker 5: our way to school, we was listening to rap music.
Speaker 4: We was doing the same thing.
Speaker 5: So, I mean, it's it's only right, but he's one
Speaker 5: of the ones that really was able to cover all
Speaker 5: those bases. And then when we talk about movies, like,
Speaker 5: I mean he did many Blue.
Speaker 6: Chips, Yeah, what else Shaq was in? Because I just
Speaker 6: saw him like yesterday, I'd like to see before like
Speaker 6: cameo than.
Speaker 7: That you're saying, man, And it's still to still be
Speaker 7: really like right, the standard test of time is that
Speaker 7: we're talking because a lot of that was what early nineties,
Speaker 7: early mid nineties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Blue Chips.
Speaker 6: I want to say it's like ninety three Hardaway, Right,
Speaker 6: this is Orlando, Yeah, this is Man Steel. That's he
Speaker 6: was like in Freddie Got Finger like you know, remember
Speaker 6: they they loved shot like right, like Man was putting
Speaker 6: them in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but a moment shot.
Speaker 2: He's a mobile yeah right, yeah, all right, man, No,
Speaker 2: let me let me ask you this. I know you
Speaker 2: got your New York roots.
Speaker 1: You know, we all have been in the news and
Speaker 1: brows in the world Wide Web show. What's your thoughts
Speaker 1: on the Diddy Verdict? What's your thoughts on on p
Speaker 1: Diddy Verdict?
Speaker 4: I think it was. I mean, listen, it was.
Speaker 5: To me, it was always an overcharged situation. I never
Speaker 5: felt like it should have been a rico. I never
Speaker 5: felt like it should have been in the courtroom because
Speaker 5: if you understand what a rico is, this was never that.
Speaker 3: To catch the mo like we did.
Speaker 4: We're talking organized crime.
Speaker 5: We're talking about running a criminal enterprise, all right now,
Speaker 5: Like he was, he was doing things that I mean
Speaker 5: I was. I probably wouldn't do it. I might have
Speaker 5: thought I was a freak, but until now I realized
Speaker 5: that I really I'm right, Okay.
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, it wasn't It
Speaker 4: wasn't a Rico.
Speaker 5: And then my whole thing is like they created this
Speaker 5: whole narrative and then when the trial came out, we
Speaker 5: didn't see none of that. Like they had this whole
Speaker 5: thing about diddy parties.
Speaker 4: What happened to the Diddy parties?
Speaker 5: Because if you look at what was going on in
Speaker 5: the transcripts and what happened in the in the in
Speaker 5: the testimony, those freak.
Speaker 4: As no parties. This was the hotel with the.
Speaker 5: Man, his woman and whatever else they have right right,
Speaker 5: this is closed off. Personal situations had nothing to do
Speaker 5: with Remember all this talk about the sex dungeon, underage kids, rapists,
Speaker 5: all the the drugs and the baby. Oh you I
Speaker 5: knew the case was was flimsy when when they started
Speaker 5: to only talk about the baby. O you when the
Speaker 5: fans is leaking leaking information to the media and they're
Speaker 5: only talking about the baby, Yo, what we what were
Speaker 5: really talking about?
Speaker 3: What ain't talking about? What comes out? You like? Yo,
Speaker 3: this is bad?
Speaker 6: Like and you know, all of us being in the
Speaker 6: black community, we know people like the Fives don't come
Speaker 6: get you unless they know they got a casse.
Speaker 5: We know that's that's that was the case here. But
Speaker 5: but that's not always true. And I tell people that
Speaker 5: all the time. The fred the fans gotta and and
Speaker 5: and you've seen it right now in this case right
Speaker 5: here where there turn and really kind of make a narrative,
Speaker 5: right and really spin it.
Speaker 4: They known to do this. They do it all the time. Right.
Speaker 4: You'll get locked up for for.
Speaker 5: For one situation and next thing you know, you got
Speaker 5: a conspiracy because they then created the narrative around it.
Speaker 5: So they do it. It's just that create that narrative.
Speaker 5: They tell you exactly who you are, right and they
Speaker 5: drag you in the courtroom and say this is who
Speaker 5: you are.
Speaker 4: And I think that now we.
Speaker 5: Got a chance to see that because this is a
Speaker 5: situation where it was.
Speaker 4: A domestic grand situation.
Speaker 3: This is what this really was.
Speaker 5: I mean, we're talking about a super rich guy, super
Speaker 5: famous guy.
Speaker 4: Come on, man, like we go like really like if
Speaker 4: if this was a situation where he was.
Speaker 5: Uh having Cassie have sex with dudes and the dudes
Speaker 5: was paying him, that's that's something different because now he.
Speaker 4: Would be making money from from from selling her off.
Speaker 6: But that that's not this or like you know, Rico,
Speaker 6: like I said, they created it to catch the mob.
Speaker 6: They couldn't catch like the headline bosses, so they created
Speaker 6: the rico like if this guy standing next to you
Speaker 6: and he collected money illegally this way, and this guy
Speaker 6: standing next to you he collected money that way, and
Speaker 6: they try to trump all of y'all together. You know
Speaker 6: what I needed to really catch the mob, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. But like, when when it came out,
Speaker 6: we was like and I was like, where's where's the rocketeer?
Speaker 4: But where's everything that they that they had in the media.
Speaker 5: Where's the such dungeon, where's the underage kids? Where's the
Speaker 5: all of the all these tapes? But they said, oh man,
Speaker 5: all these people, where's these people.
Speaker 4: That was getting raped and all that?
Speaker 6: Where's Like it was back like we all saw the
Speaker 6: video and was like, oh, like it's bad. So they
Speaker 6: see the video and then like we think, it's like, oh,
Speaker 6: it's only gonna get.
Speaker 5: Worse from here, right, because they use that video to
Speaker 5: get people checked.
Speaker 3: So it was like work here, It's like what else
Speaker 3: is coming out?
Speaker 6: And then the transcript's coming out and then you start
Speaker 6: seeing the interaction between him and cast.
Speaker 5: And I'm like this kind of sounds like I'm always
Speaker 5: down for a free golf.
Speaker 4: I'm always down for golf.
Speaker 6: That's complicitly she was like, like I said, she was
Speaker 6: with me until she wasn't, and then I was like,
Speaker 6: right that that's not really rico or everything else that
Speaker 6: they had him charge for it, Like you see any
Speaker 6: evid into that, and like, if I get into it
Speaker 6: with my age girls, new dude, that don't make me.
Speaker 3: They don't get me.
Speaker 6: A racketeering charge, you know what I'm saying, Like I
Speaker 6: think that's what they were trying to say. Where the
Speaker 6: bombing of kid cut his car, Like, oh, that's racketeering,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. You send somebody blow up
Speaker 6: his car.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that's stuff or that's I'm getting lost
Speaker 1: on Like like you said, man, no, where is all
Speaker 1: those other.
Speaker 5: Because if you said, because that's a tactic that the
Speaker 5: fairs use, right is to so they got the media right,
Speaker 5: So they leaked this to the media to control the narrative.
Speaker 5: So now what happens is they tampered with the jury
Speaker 5: pool because now in the eyes of the public, he
Speaker 5: gives you you.
Speaker 4: Can't tell people.
Speaker 5: You can't tell my daughter mother that puff don't deserve
Speaker 5: to be in jail based off of what is in
Speaker 5: the media, not even what's happening in the court. You
Speaker 5: can't tell the average person that he don't belong in
Speaker 5: the jail because if you if you looked at what
Speaker 5: the media was was promoting, it was it was just
Speaker 5: this super high, heinous level of criminality that just makes
Speaker 5: you feel like this dude was.
Speaker 3: Just the worst of the world.
Speaker 4: But in the courtroom it.
Speaker 6: Was real like we was all like, well, where where's
Speaker 6: the rage team? Like they had to drop all that
Speaker 6: cause they didn't present any evidence of anything.
Speaker 3: To describe this.
Speaker 5: Like even at the men, you know what I'm saying, no, no, no,
Speaker 5: and this is and that's why he only got convicted
Speaker 5: for the inner state transportation of prostitutes. Now they're saying
Speaker 5: that you cannot transport prostitutes from across state lines and
Speaker 5: do transactional business with them, even though this is all consents,
Speaker 5: even though this is consensual.
Speaker 4: Now you got to you.
Speaker 5: Talk about complicit So now you got you got, you
Speaker 5: got puff, you got the woman, and then you got
Speaker 5: the sex worker. Everybody is complicit. So now he's the
Speaker 5: he had a he had a one man rico. Right,
Speaker 5: when do you ever see those and the reason why
Speaker 5: he had a one man rico because he had unindicted
Speaker 5: co conspiracists co conspirators.
Speaker 4: Who was the co conspirators? The woman and the sex workers?
Speaker 4: But what do they do?
Speaker 8: They use them toify I mean, like I asked my
Speaker 8: boys every day, I'm like, dude, if ice cream Trump
Speaker 8: said was ice cream?
Speaker 3: You know, roll through?
Speaker 6: If I buy ice cream? And I'm being like, hey,
Speaker 6: I know some of my boys over here they love
Speaker 6: ice cream too. You're selling ice cream? Did that mean
Speaker 6: that makes me a sex trafficker? Because I'm purchasing you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. I'm like, dude, you're providing a
Speaker 6: service that I'm buying it like.
Speaker 4: I'm making you do that, you know.
Speaker 5: And that's the thing that right, so when you got
Speaker 5: text like you know, I'm always down for a freak
Speaker 5: off and things like that, and and it's it's.
Speaker 4: A lot of great area, right coercion, Like you.
Speaker 5: Gotta be to somebody, you gotta be like, yo, you
Speaker 5: gotta you gotta do this. Like when you think it's
Speaker 5: sex work, you think somebody locked up in the dungeon.
Speaker 4: You think somebody is like.
Speaker 6: Against That's what I thought, Like like sex trafficking was,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, not like, oh, you know,
Speaker 6: I'm into some freaky ship. I like seeing my girl
Speaker 6: getting busted down and I go buy a guy on
Speaker 6: the hammer or something like that. Now I'm safe trafficking
Speaker 6: because I gotta like I said, like after like when
Speaker 6: at first, when the diatment first came out, like I said, like,
Speaker 6: I know, we all know that they trump your charges
Speaker 6: to get you complete basically to scare you. Like nobody,
Speaker 6: like especially a person at his position, who his reputation
Speaker 6: was at state. You know, he don't want all this
Speaker 6: coming out, you know what I'm saying. They was trying
Speaker 6: to like corner him and did. He was like, no,
Speaker 6: I'm a fighting you know what I'm saying, even all
Speaker 6: this freak golf, all this stuff coming out, what she's
Speaker 6: gonna say and embarrass him and stuff like, and he
Speaker 6: stood his ground, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But everybody know, the fan's gonna trump your charge. They're
Speaker 3: gonna charge you.
Speaker 6: More than what actually went on to scare you in
Speaker 6: there like that. But like you said, it was his
Speaker 6: high profile cage. They had raids at like at the
Speaker 6: same time by tootals, you know what I'm saying, La
Speaker 6: and Miami and York.
Speaker 3: So it's like we I'm thinking, like, all right, they didn't.
Speaker 3: They didn't.
Speaker 6: They didn't set up these raids at the same time.
Speaker 6: So can't nobody alert each other, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: They come at so you think like, oh, when they
Speaker 6: come yeah, so I'm thinking like they got something.
Speaker 3: And then as a trial going on, it's like.
Speaker 6: All they talking about is the sact. I'm like, like, Rether,
Speaker 6: it's your kink or not.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Whatever your kink is, whatever
Speaker 5: you're into. You long, all parties are screaming where's.
Speaker 4: The parties at?
Speaker 5: Because you got to understand, they didn't change what the
Speaker 5: narrative on what a Diddy party is to the point
Speaker 5: where you have regular people seeing you in the street,
Speaker 5: playing with you like you may hear you was at a.
Speaker 4: Diddy party, Diddy parties.
Speaker 3: But everybody was trying to go like we would We didn't.
Speaker 8: We didn't know, you think about but none of those,
Speaker 8: none of none of the other the freak.
Speaker 6: Of right, everybody know like like they try to even
Speaker 6: get you know, King Jones for King j was like, yeah,
Speaker 6: you know, you know for having you know, like like
Speaker 6: they's always been on in main Street. He didn't have
Speaker 6: like the best parties and stuff.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent.
Speaker 3: He got an own video.
Speaker 6: He was like, all right, this is the nice party
Speaker 6: for everybody, but everybody want to leave in about a
Speaker 6: couple of hours, like giving his war like if you
Speaker 6: staying here, it's gonna get a little while, you know. Man,
Speaker 6: So I don't think like like everybody was like, oh
Speaker 6: he was at a dty party.
Speaker 3: He's at the deity party.
Speaker 6: Like, no, I never get I was never cool enough
Speaker 6: to get in fighting, but did I want to go?
Speaker 3: At one point, yeah, I was like how this ship out?
Speaker 5: Like I've been, I've been, And what my point is
Speaker 5: is that I don't know, I've never seen nothing crazy,
Speaker 5: and I don't know nobody else that did.
Speaker 4: But but then when you look at what happened in.
Speaker 5: The court, all of those instances of freak offfs had
Speaker 5: nothing per se. Had had everything to do with a
Speaker 5: man in his per the new kink, his fetish, his
Speaker 5: sexual nature, whatever, that's his business.
Speaker 3: It's crazy. The crazy is the evil world we live in.
Speaker 6: So world we live in, yeah, man, but hey, what
Speaker 6: do you think he gonna get time served. You're gonna
Speaker 6: serve some more.
Speaker 4: Go see that?
Speaker 5: See I thought he I thought he should have got
Speaker 5: bail because you know, because the technically the first offender,
Speaker 5: but the fans is dirty. They like to play this
Speaker 5: game with what they call unindicted.
Speaker 4: Criminal conduct.
Speaker 5: So when it's time to sentence you there, even though
Speaker 5: you're not convicted of these things, they like to add
Speaker 5: in things something else. You see what the judge said,
Speaker 5: he said, oh it was even he got convicted of prostitution.
Speaker 5: The judge held his bell because of the video was casting.
Speaker 4: Because oh it was.
Speaker 5: It was violence, and it was the worst violence is
Speaker 5: is the violence behind closed doors? What like he didn't
Speaker 5: get convicted of violence? Did he get convicted of violence? No,
Speaker 5: he didn't get you see what I'm saying. And then
Speaker 5: let's be honest, like that happened like what nine ten
Speaker 5: years ago, not the diminishing the situation ago. But but
Speaker 5: it's and then it's it's not like he was out.
Speaker 4: Here terrorizing these people.
Speaker 5: So it's like when you start saying, oh, we we
Speaker 5: scared for our lives.
Speaker 4: Was he he was just home? Was he just out
Speaker 4: here looking running down looking.
Speaker 6: For these people right like, yeah, uh uh, I don't know.
Speaker 6: It's a very.
Speaker 5: It's all It's all about the it's all about who's
Speaker 5: spending the narrative, and it's all about playing with the
Speaker 5: minds of the people. Man, because I realize now it
Speaker 5: ain't it ain't always about the truth.
Speaker 4: It's about the perception.
Speaker 3: Okay, No, he's going off book. Uh no, t A.
Speaker 6: But I've just been I've been dying like every when
Speaker 6: I found out we got me, you know, I was like,
Speaker 6: I already know a question.
Speaker 3: I was going to ask him, but uh.
Speaker 6: Good Nazza Jim jentmen, I knew I want to hear
Speaker 6: I want to hear a rap.
Speaker 5: So but this is this is this is the genius
Speaker 5: thing right here, that everybody not realizing the fact that
Speaker 5: you asking me that, the fact that you right now
Speaker 5: asking me that question right now, This is what this
Speaker 5: is all about.
Speaker 4: It's about ourgorithm.
Speaker 5: Man, Jim understood understands the power of olgorithm, the power
Speaker 5: of the Internet, the power of conversation. Come on, man,
Speaker 5: we know who Nas is, we know what Nas did.
Speaker 5: We understand the greatness in naz a rap god a rap. Right,
Speaker 5: but we it ain't about that, right, it's about.
Speaker 4: The fact that Jim's saying I'm better than ours right now.
Speaker 4: He's saying he's.
Speaker 5: Better than ours right now, because why because it creates conversation.
Speaker 4: You just asked me, this is what is a problem.
Speaker 6: So they say the rap world, it's like you know,
Speaker 6: basketball or competitive sports, like you want to say you
Speaker 6: the best.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It ain't no, it ain't. It ain't nothing wrong with nobody.
Speaker 8: That nothing wrong with nobody.
Speaker 6: You don't feel yourself, especially in your business. If you
Speaker 6: don't feel yourself like that, like pauls. You know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying, Like, then it's really you. You ain't never
Speaker 6: gonna have no leave like you said such and such
Speaker 6: as better than you.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Listen, feel how you want to, nigga.
Speaker 5: Don't say you better than whoever. Go go up it
Speaker 5: like you better than in the world. Like that's how
Speaker 5: you feel. That's how you feel where that you understand.
Speaker 5: But but you can feel that way prior of right.
Speaker 5: You can feel that way.
Speaker 4: In the studio. You know, I'm in the studio, we
Speaker 4: all unerstand. I'm like, man, I gotta kill everybody in here.
Speaker 5: When you say it when you said to the public,
Speaker 5: you gotta know what come back with that, and the
Speaker 5: fact that he already knew would it come with you?
Speaker 5: Like you know, but it don't matter because it's about
Speaker 5: the It's about the conversation that creates the algorithm that
Speaker 5: creates this energy that every time you turn around.
Speaker 4: Now he right, So I.
Speaker 6: Will say this so like like I didn't even know,
Speaker 6: like before Jim Jones came out with Balling, I just
Speaker 6: thought he was part of the Dipset crew, you know,
Speaker 6: I ain't really think like like Jim Jones was a
Speaker 6: rapper and don't don't remember that run Jim Jones had
Speaker 6: where they had Balling and and uh what else is
Speaker 6: am I thinking of?
Speaker 2: He did?
Speaker 6: He did a Diddy joint the Sherry did. Like like
Speaker 6: Jim Jones, he does have like hits.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, like The Party two.
Speaker 6: But like Dons, he was in that transition era before
Speaker 6: hip hop really became mainstream and when you really had
Speaker 6: to spit, like you really had to have talent, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, And Hans came out like lyrically,
Speaker 6: and like I didn't appreciate this until I was older
Speaker 6: because I was a Tupac fan.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: When you thirteen or twelve, you really impressible, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. Like Tupac told me don't listen to
Speaker 6: Nads and all these other rappings, so I'm like listening
Speaker 6: to them, you know what I'm saying. And then I
Speaker 6: like got into a debate and I was like nahs,
Speaker 6: and then everybody clowned me.
Speaker 3: I was like, maybe I need to go back and
Speaker 3: go listen to this dude.
Speaker 6: And then like he was just like like nay.
Speaker 5: One of the one of the brigst like not definitely
Speaker 5: one of my favorites that.
Speaker 3: Like he he he was like he's.
Speaker 6: Like part of those brand, like he's street, but he's
Speaker 6: also very intuitive like Rob, I mean, excuse me. Nas
Speaker 6: is very intelligent, you know, like Karen's one was and
Speaker 6: and and public Enemy like like Nons weren't bringing it
Speaker 6: to me, and I was just yem like like Nons very.
Speaker 3: Intelligent, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: One of those those rappers that can get you to think,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, and get you to feel
Speaker 6: and and be happy to be black. Like yeah, like
Speaker 6: he started out Queen's big projects. Where I'm at now,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Like Nas one of them rappers.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, No, not and and and.
Speaker 5: Not only that, like I mean, we gotta we gotta
Speaker 5: really also not just talk about you know, what he
Speaker 5: did the rap game, but just on the business side,
Speaker 5: like the things that he's doing.
Speaker 4: Like so I mean, listen, man, I'm cool with Nas.
Speaker 4: Uh uh. Jim is my brother.
Speaker 5: You know, I had the opportunity to work with Nas,
Speaker 5: perform with Nas, like you know what I mean. So
Speaker 5: it's it's we're talking about legendary ship man, every every
Speaker 5: you know, everybody and brought something to the game right
Speaker 5: that that that somebody could leave it, you understand. So
Speaker 5: when Nas did and what he's still doing on the
Speaker 5: business side is definitely admirable.
Speaker 4: So you know, you can't take nothing from did you take.
Speaker 3: Nothing from either one of them?
Speaker 6: Like I said, I want to discredit like Jimmy, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, Like like Jim Jones, Like I
Speaker 6: think I love Jim.
Speaker 3: Jones, you know, and like we all had we've all been.
Speaker 6: To a party and one of his songs that come
Speaker 6: on turned us up, like all right, I was waiting
Speaker 6: to hear that. Now you can get there, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So I didn't want to discredit Jimmy.
Speaker 6: I just didn't like that the conversation started from.
Speaker 1: Like, you know exactly what he's doing, eighteen or eighteen
Speaker 1: year old said the competition.
Speaker 5: But that is that is a perspective though, right, So
Speaker 5: that is a that is a perspective for some. See.
Speaker 5: The thing about this is this, everything is from your
Speaker 5: own point of view for me, and and a lot
Speaker 5: of things is.
Speaker 4: From whatever your social circle is.
Speaker 5: So you had a ninety year old that said that
Speaker 5: he didn't he wasn't tapping in with nas. Maybe that
Speaker 5: was just that nineteen year old because maybe that's what
Speaker 5: his social circle was, and he was more tapped in
Speaker 5: with Capito. So you know, everything you gotta take with
Speaker 5: a grain of salt, man, and everything is relative, you understand.
Speaker 5: So you know, like I said, though, this is really
Speaker 5: not about the common This is really just about the conversation.
Speaker 5: He ain't about us really picking one up over the other.
Speaker 4: This is not what this is about.
Speaker 2: No exacutive spirit of competition. Man.
Speaker 1: We all feel like we're the best, and I respect it.
Speaker 1: Ness for sure. Let's go to a younger artist, DDG
Speaker 1: recording artists and a big name streamer. Apple Music just
Speaker 1: got called out by DDG after his name started showing
Speaker 1: up when users type the poop emoji.
Speaker 2: How would you guys feel about that? Well, how do
Speaker 2: you guys feel about that? With Apple? And it's all publicity,
Speaker 2: good publicity.
Speaker 4: No, I don't. I think you gotta learn. I think
Speaker 4: it can be if you learn how to flip it.
Speaker 4: But certain things you.
Speaker 2: Just don't want on it on your name.
Speaker 4: Now. I don't know if that's that serious.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 4: So Apple Music did that? Why would they do that?
Speaker 2: I don't know, but DDG called them out it.
Speaker 1: Anytime the users was typing the poop emoji, his name
Speaker 1: was popping up, his name started to show up.
Speaker 2: That is, I don't know about the algorithm.
Speaker 4: I mean you could.
Speaker 5: Probably flip that though, you understand so that I wouldn't
Speaker 5: say is a super duper negative because actually it kind
Speaker 5: of puts you in the in the algorithm, and he
Speaker 5: kind of got that way with the streaming anyway, So
Speaker 5: you could probably flip that into it into a positive.
Speaker 4: It's all about what you do with it. But certain things.
Speaker 5: I feel like I don't even I wouldn't even want
Speaker 5: on me, Paul, Like I.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't even want on my name. I wouldn't want associated.
Speaker 3: With me exactly. So what what happened? What did he
Speaker 3: say happened?
Speaker 1: He said, his name popping up when somebody I guess
Speaker 1: in the search engine would type the poop emoji, his
Speaker 1: name DDG will pop up, and it's like a like
Speaker 1: a running joke, Doodoo gang or doodoo or whatever. But
Speaker 1: right right, right, right right, So he called about it,
Speaker 1: like to fix that algorithm?
Speaker 3: So Apple did they fix it from the Apple?
Speaker 2: Did that Apple Music?
Speaker 4: No Apple Music?
Speaker 5: Or just like like, yeah, you go to Apple Music,
Speaker 5: you type, you type.
Speaker 4: In the poop moji, And that's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 3: So like if I google a pooper moji and a
Speaker 3: whole bunch of d d G.
Speaker 1: Ship but come up what I have right here in
Speaker 1: front of it, said Apple Music? Apple, what do you
Speaker 1: think sabotage or something like that?
Speaker 3: I don't like. What's the downside?
Speaker 2: It's people have been trolling saying DDG stands for Doodoo garbage.
Speaker 6: Oh right right, He's like two up with somebody right right,
Speaker 6: right right.
Speaker 2: It's still up on Apple Music right now.
Speaker 1: Like if you if you type that in, it's and
Speaker 1: he called him like, hey, y'all need to fix this algorithm, Like,
Speaker 1: my name is not synonymous with the pooper mojic. Damn,
Speaker 1: what does A stand for? It's a lot of publicity.
Speaker 1: I really don't know what DDG stands for. We gotta
Speaker 1: we gotta fact check that. It's a lot of it's
Speaker 1: a lot of.
Speaker 4: Oh, I just put it in and it's.
Speaker 3: This is a fact.
Speaker 4: Damn, damn, they.
Speaker 2: Did my damn Alpha music. You gotta fix that.
Speaker 4: All you gotta do is type in.
Speaker 5: Can Okay, All you gotta do is type in that
Speaker 5: shithead that's on your mojis.
Speaker 4: Hey, that's a shithead, right, that's Spad. It's doodoo.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's poop right, and you click on it in
Speaker 5: the search engine, and his name is the first name
Speaker 5: that comes out.
Speaker 3: For a drop. What garbage?
Speaker 2: They saying that doodoo garbage.
Speaker 5: That's what the people that have been fooling him saying
Speaker 5: that it stands for right, his name don't stand for that.
Speaker 5: But they've been playing with him saying stands for doodoo garbage.
Speaker 4: But this is dead long, right then.
Speaker 1: It stand stands for Darrel, Dwayne Grandberry, Darryl. Yeah, his name,
Speaker 1: so it's his initials.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't want nobody playing on my name like that
Speaker 1: man Apple fixed that Apple Music, get him, get him right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is this is real deal here. This is
Speaker 4: definitely wow.
Speaker 2: So back to the point, like all publicity isn't good publicity.
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think that that's too crazy with
Speaker 5: something that you.
Speaker 1: Know, he's probably got a spike in in searches or strange.
Speaker 4: This is what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 8: That you can flip that, like resulting to him getting
Speaker 8: his checks.
Speaker 3: I think that's how he he gets.
Speaker 5: His brand, is you can flip that. That can be
Speaker 5: flipped that that that you can be you can use that.
Speaker 5: That ain't something like they're saying somebody touched on somebody.
Speaker 4: Or you know what I'm.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's like yeah, yeah, something ship you don't want
Speaker 5: to be accused of. You don't even want to associated
Speaker 5: with your name.
Speaker 6: Who was the person he into into it with another streamer. No,
Speaker 6: it's just random fans trolling, fan trolling.
Speaker 1: He's in the news quite a bit. He having some
Speaker 1: back and forth. I know him and his son's mother they.
Speaker 5: Beat they beat the brakes off of Nigga recently for
Speaker 5: calling him that in public.
Speaker 4: I like that. That was pretty impressive. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I like that. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 5: They what was necessary when the nigga is playing with
Speaker 5: you in public?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: He in the new Like I think he into it
Speaker 6: with like another streamer or something like that. I don't know,
Speaker 6: don't quote me, but I think they get into it
Speaker 6: war the words like they going back and forth online.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I really don't get that, Like, you know, I grew
Speaker 6: up around gangsters. Like when the games had a problem
Speaker 6: with you, he wasn't gonna tell you on Twitter.
Speaker 5: He was that days is over with though, man, so listen,
Speaker 5: it is what it is.
Speaker 4: You're gonna have more words on the internet.
Speaker 7: That's it.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't. I don't play them games like.
Speaker 4: I grew up. So what what? What? What happened?
Speaker 5: If somebody that that knew you from your hometown, right.
Speaker 4: That made it happen?
Speaker 5: Y'all might have had some friction in the past and
Speaker 5: he started him on YouTube page and he just starts
Speaker 5: talking crazy about you every other day.
Speaker 3: I probably know somebody that he know, Like what people.
Speaker 6: Tell you, boy, like when I see him, we're gonna
Speaker 6: have We're gonna have a discussion.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: No, don't he don't. He don't come out like I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know it ain't don't.
Speaker 5: If it was that easy, these niggas wouldn't be talking.
Speaker 5: Let me just tell you something you got.
Speaker 4: You got a whole like.
Speaker 5: Section of YouTube for guys that just you know that
Speaker 5: they monetize their pages and the way that they attracted
Speaker 5: the viewership is to talk crazy about artists, rappers or
Speaker 5: whatever they talk like.
Speaker 4: So I mean, yeah, like.
Speaker 5: But but they're not doing it just for cloud though.
Speaker 4: They're doing it to monitor for money.
Speaker 5: Because if they if their page is monetized, right and
Speaker 5: and and and and they're saying the most outland of
Speaker 5: ship right and it's like, oh, it's it's like clickbait
Speaker 5: for people.
Speaker 4: To click on it.
Speaker 5: Right, So they don't and they don't care about like
Speaker 5: my thing because they ain't coming.
Speaker 6: Out exactly like my thing is like you never underestimated
Speaker 6: dude from another hood because there's another you in that hood.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like, like what happened when
Speaker 6: you run into a that's really about that. You may
Speaker 6: think this is all about streams and it's all cute
Speaker 6: and getting clicked, and then you get confronted by that
Speaker 6: person or somebody that love that person that is close
Speaker 6: to that person like that that's really with that, Like
Speaker 6: I don't believe in like bring an ex drug like
Speaker 6: heat on yourself. So does it like to start beef
Speaker 6: for like clips? Like like what it's saying is not
Speaker 6: all money is good money?
Speaker 5: Like yeah, but yeah, but this is for you, so
Speaker 5: you gotta you gotta remember some of these guys ain't
Speaker 5: got no outlets, you know, have no other opportunities. And
Speaker 5: now the internet then provided them a way to be
Speaker 5: able to make a few tools and fuse. So what
Speaker 5: do they do?
Speaker 4: They do it.
Speaker 5: They do it for the views, right, They motivated by
Speaker 5: the views because the views bring them what monetization.
Speaker 4: So they don't care. It ain't personal.
Speaker 5: We don't be fuck you made over something that I
Speaker 5: don't fuck fuck you mister subbs whatever whatever, like I
Speaker 5: don't care, Like whatever, I take it at what cost
Speaker 5: of you?
Speaker 4: What costs? If no cost?
Speaker 5: Because guess what if if if you're not a person
Speaker 5: that's in traffic coming out doing the things that people
Speaker 5: do that get money and like the party, have fun.
Speaker 4: Then then you then you're not in traffic. You're making
Speaker 4: your money and you stay home.
Speaker 5: You're in your basement and your girl in your wife house,
Speaker 5: in your backyard, whatever you're at.
Speaker 3: You not ex It's all funny games. Okay.
Speaker 6: I'm like, we like we know your story when.
Speaker 3: You're in like right because.
Speaker 4: Island, Like yeah for me, Like I know.
Speaker 6: Your story and you like, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: You get all unlimited money.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, clean money. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Why for clickbait is it worth it to me to
Speaker 6: like get you back into your old self?
Speaker 9: Because it ain't aimn personally. It's whoever, whether it's me
Speaker 9: that show or this one that one, whether it's you,
Speaker 9: it don't matter. It's because it's all for the sake
Speaker 9: of so called being a blog or a media person
Speaker 9: and just saying it. But if you look at if
Speaker 9: you look at uh, the way media is.
Speaker 4: Right now, it's more blog driven, it's more gossip driven. Right.
Speaker 5: So it's like back in the days we had the
Speaker 5: National Inquirer that was like all the gossips.
Speaker 4: It was at right, and you had the real news.
Speaker 4: Now every day, every day I got it's more like
Speaker 4: you know, it's it's about who's with who, who's doing well?
Speaker 4: Who said something to who was he talking to him?
Speaker 4: Was he talking to her?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 4: It's all godsip driven And this is where it comes from.
Speaker 4: This is the age that we're living in.
Speaker 3: Hear what you're saying. I hear what you're saying. I
Speaker 3: just think it's buffoonery.
Speaker 4: Absolutely beffoonery.
Speaker 5: But we gotta know how to We gotta know what
Speaker 5: it is so we know how to know.
Speaker 6: I'm just I'm like, no, you gotta understand, like I
Speaker 6: grew up a real straight up gainst. If they're gonna
Speaker 6: do something to you, trust me, they're not gonna have
Speaker 6: no evidence that somebody comes to use in court.
Speaker 3: Like Yo, we've seen y'all going back and forth right here.
Speaker 3: You told him you was gonna do such and such,
Speaker 3: such and such to him when you saw them.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like like that rapper that
Speaker 6: it was a rapper, l a deaveritly si you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, Uh a dollar, But like the dude
Speaker 6: who killed him, like end up getting off because it
Speaker 6: was like it was like documented dude said like, Yo,
Speaker 6: when I see I'm gonna kill you, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying, Like, yeah, that's how you got off because
Speaker 6: they were like in self defense, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: And like I just thought that was crazy. I'm like, duh,
Speaker 6: why why if you're going to do that to why.
Speaker 3: Would you like put it out there?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that question.
Speaker 5: But that question is like for somebody that that that understands,
Speaker 5: So you might come from a different background and an
Speaker 5: element that you understand like this ain't the way to
Speaker 5: go about it.
Speaker 4: But right now in the age living in.
Speaker 5: That thought pattern, the stone out because we had a
Speaker 5: place where somebody do something they almost want you to
Speaker 5: know that they didn't like.
Speaker 8: Like uh, they want the car.
Speaker 4: Everything is social media. Everything everything is social media.
Speaker 3: My God, Like I can't I just can't get with it.
Speaker 3: I just can't feel with it.