WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Looking Back & Forth

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<v Speaker 1>The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick

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<v Speaker 1>Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the

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<v Speaker 1>official Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,

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<v Speaker 1>and Nicky Spagnola, and it is the officials start to

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<v Speaker 1>Patriots Week here on Mick Shots inside the SWBC podcast

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<v Speaker 1>studio at Ford Center. At the start in Frisco, Bill Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>Everson Walls, and Mickey Spagnola in some an alarming site

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<v Speaker 1>as I walked into the podcast studio, Mickey Spagnola, because

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<v Speaker 1>there were no football players, no football equipment on the

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<v Speaker 1>practice field here. What are we doing? Are we taking

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<v Speaker 1>the week off? What's going on right there? There are

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<v Speaker 1>so common It's like, is there the two and three Patriots?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't need to practice? It was raining? Don't say that's bag,

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<v Speaker 1>Someone will take that out. Yeah it was what it

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<v Speaker 1>was raining here this morning? Well, so do you think

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<v Speaker 1>it might not rain in Foxborough? What was it? What

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<v Speaker 1>happened the last time the Cowboys went to New England?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't think you want to mess up

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<v Speaker 1>your practice trying to portray that rain. You can't fool them.

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<v Speaker 1>Sun's out if you can believe the weather man, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was supposed to in the weather women. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna believe the weather, how you want to be

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<v Speaker 1>the weather person. It was supposed to keep raining during

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<v Speaker 1>the days. So you can see you don't believe him, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because now the sun's coach out, but it's supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>and even tomorrow, so they may be indoors both days. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>in in the Ford Center, So we are practicing. They

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<v Speaker 1>are proud that I can give you a good practice report.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, care to hear it? Just let me know

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<v Speaker 1>when you were. It was just about an hour and

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<v Speaker 1>a little over an hour ago. Or practice was open

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<v Speaker 1>for the media to take a look inside Forward Center

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<v Speaker 1>and we can get to that. And there's so much

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<v Speaker 1>more to get to. We taped the Mike McCarthy show

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<v Speaker 1>last night. I got some stuff from him to pass

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<v Speaker 1>along as well. And I don't it's just a big week.

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<v Speaker 1>When it's a Patriots, it's always a big week. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care what their record is. I do. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to do another interview after the show. Bill let me

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<v Speaker 1>know now so I can get my face on No no,

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<v Speaker 1>you're good. We're good. Good. Yeah, where the Everson Walls

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<v Speaker 1>Victory Tour continues. Actually, Trey Von Diggs, Actually I saw

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<v Speaker 1>what I saw what was in the background. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the highlight film of Everson Walls interceptions, and I was thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>during our show, instead of showing us, we'll just put

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<v Speaker 1>that on the whole loop. Put it on a loop.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone that that's in the Hall of Fame that I

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<v Speaker 1>think doesn't deserve to be there. They usually had a show, right. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know if you want to compare

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<v Speaker 1>if mix shots can't compare to those shows that they all, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it does because they were like you know, ESPNS and

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<v Speaker 1>all that kind of stuff. That's that's the whole key. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>getting into the Hall of Fame, you gotta have some

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<v Speaker 1>some Uh what do you How do you think Lynn

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<v Speaker 1>Swan got in so quickly? Oh? How we long? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. Yeah, I got a little bunch of them.

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<v Speaker 1>We can continue tomorrow. We're gonna have a list. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't now it's right here, right here, Walls list.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to stay top of mine, all right. So

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<v Speaker 1>you want to go inside practice and tell us what

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<v Speaker 1>was going on? I will tell you. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>most notable thing was it didn't look like Trayvon Diggs

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna practice. It looks like he's got a sprain

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<v Speaker 1>left ankle so that they felt the retaped them during

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<v Speaker 1>the game, the Giants game, and so at the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of practice he was working on the resistance chords and

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't look like he was in practice because he

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<v Speaker 1>was in tennis shoes, all right, and I didn't see

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<v Speaker 1>a helmet around right. Um, we'll get that report here.

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<v Speaker 1>And a wide receiver got were hurt were injured on

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<v Speaker 1>that particiar the same place, the same there. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>so as a matter of fact, when he was doing

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<v Speaker 1>some of the resistance stuff while he was waiting his

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<v Speaker 1>turn to get on the chords, he was doing his

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<v Speaker 1>little side steps and at one point he took his

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<v Speaker 1>left shoe off. So I'm guessing it's his left hand,

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, just from experience of looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>way you look at it, it's hard to he fell

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<v Speaker 1>on the back of his ankle, but what was stretched

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<v Speaker 1>was the top of his ankle. Looked like that was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, really excited because he fell on the back

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<v Speaker 1>of it, and it seemed like that's where the injury

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<v Speaker 1>is probably on the on the top of it, so

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<v Speaker 1>it looked like that he was not going to practice.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is when McCarthy answered the question of the

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<v Speaker 1>press conference. He just thought they would have to see

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of guys what they go through, but he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think it was anything serious enough to keep them

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<v Speaker 1>out on Sunday. Uh, Zeke started off to practice the

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<v Speaker 1>same way, but he was dressed and ready to go.

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<v Speaker 1>So were not going to be doing this down Bishop

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<v Speaker 1>thing to where he's going to be injured a few games. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, Bill Street. Yeah, uh so so Zeke. But

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<v Speaker 1>Zeke did it. Uh. And then they had two guys

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<v Speaker 1>that have been on ir with designated to return and

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<v Speaker 1>they started their three week period today, Sean McEwan and

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<v Speaker 1>Donovan Wilson. They were both out there doing uh uh

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<v Speaker 1>individual drills during the special teams and fundamentals they did

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<v Speaker 1>and then I think that was it for them. But

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<v Speaker 1>at least they getting going. So that's so that's got

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<v Speaker 1>a question on that. Yes, since the bye week count

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<v Speaker 1>is one of those three weeks stump him. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>because you don't have a full week of practice, so

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<v Speaker 1>I would think it would not count. Yeah, because you're buying.

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<v Speaker 1>You're buying a fourth week here, you get practice, just

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<v Speaker 1>get No, you got to give the guys four consecutive

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<v Speaker 1>days off. So Thursday Thursday. See, you guys didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a good CBA. You know you did get enough time off.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't enough of us, not loopy, you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>where they say, okay, now we need to change. So

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<v Speaker 1>generally what they'll could do is come in on Monday

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<v Speaker 1>as normal after a game, have Tuesday off, do something

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<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday. And generally the way it's worked, at least

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<v Speaker 1>when Jason was here, Wednesday was kind of a young

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<v Speaker 1>guys practice. The guys that don't get to practice that much,

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<v Speaker 1>they would get them out there and go through some

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<v Speaker 1>practice players players, the practice squad guys can go out

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<v Speaker 1>there also. Yeah, um, update on go ahead, Michael Gallop.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on with him and Gallimore? Uh? Gallimar continues

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<v Speaker 1>to do rehab on the side. So like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a z elbow. So he's running really well.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think those guys after after after the after

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<v Speaker 1>the bye maybe after the bye man. Yeah, because Gallimore

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<v Speaker 1>had to miss I think he had to did he

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<v Speaker 1>have to miss six games. I can't remember if he

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<v Speaker 1>was in that category. I don't think no, he because

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<v Speaker 1>he was at training camp was Yeah, he wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>pup guy. That's right about Gallop. Gallop. I still think

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<v Speaker 1>after the bye at the earliest Hill is the pup

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<v Speaker 1>Tristan and the Hills the Trump guy, and he had

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<v Speaker 1>to miss six six games, right for six weeks whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm asking about Gallup because as we move on, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>man trade deadline coming up. I wonder if no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, thank you, because I do not want that

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. In regards to the trade deadline. Here's the

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<v Speaker 1>way I look at Michael Gallup. You're acquiring him in

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<v Speaker 1>a trade, you know, because you haven't had him, and

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<v Speaker 1>so about the trade deadline, you're getting him back, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it's as if you just picked him up from

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<v Speaker 1>another team. I mean, as a player, if I'm if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm him, I'm a little nervous, you know. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>we're playing well, of course, but I'm not a part

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<v Speaker 1>of it. I'm a little anxious. Yeah, I see Cedric

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson getting off. Of course you al would have knew

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<v Speaker 1>one more injury and then come talk to me. The Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>If the Cowboys were one and four right now instead

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<v Speaker 1>of four and one, and if I was Michael Gallup,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be nervous, you know. And the other thing that

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<v Speaker 1>stood out in practice when they were doing the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>linemen were doing their little drills off on the side.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to ask Verson if he ever saw

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<v Speaker 1>Ernie Stottner running a drill with a helmet on. No,

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<v Speaker 1>never happened. I'm not sure that he played. He didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't play in his Pro Football Hall of Fame

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<v Speaker 1>career with a helmon onze right, he probably he had leather. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>dan Quinn was out there and doing the drill and

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<v Speaker 1>he had a helmet on, by the way, and it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't like they were button heads or anything, but he

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<v Speaker 1>was doing the uh oh, he had the pads in

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<v Speaker 1>his hand and they're coming by knocking them down, and

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<v Speaker 1>but he had the helmet on. That only happens with

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<v Speaker 1>winning teams. Yeah, right, you do stuff like that. If

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<v Speaker 1>you out there, you would like to say you wanted four.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the couch coaches out there with his helming on.

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<v Speaker 1>Coach Hey man quis going them out. So that's the

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<v Speaker 1>highlights of the practice that I think we got to see. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>very good. Um. You know the Mike McCarthy was talking

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<v Speaker 1>last night in between taping the show that he breaks

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<v Speaker 1>down this season into basically quadrants. Okay, where we're reaching

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the first quadrant here uh where? When

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the Cowboys schedule because of the bye

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<v Speaker 1>week next week, so you're you got six weeks, you

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<v Speaker 1>got eighteen weeks basically, but you're I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're the last quadrant would be your playoffs. Oh so

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<v Speaker 1>so you got the six Now he didn't say that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just read into it every five and the

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<v Speaker 1>way the Cowboys schedule breaks down, the way he's got

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<v Speaker 1>it marked off is Okay, we're ending the first quarter

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<v Speaker 1>here at with this game because of the bye week,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you're going through November, which is a five

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<v Speaker 1>week and once as the way the Cowboys schedule lines up,

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<v Speaker 1>you got Thanksgiving and then the following Thursday at New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a five game stretch, right, We're for your

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<v Speaker 1>second quarter and then you're take it from there to

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the season. Is your third quarter and

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<v Speaker 1>then your fourth quarter. Yeah, the NFL just just trans

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<v Speaker 1>transition into the dog days of winter. Yes, it is

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<v Speaker 1>this season after Christmas, after Thanksgiving. Think about after Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 1>We always had this stretch that we had to pay

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<v Speaker 1>attention to. Now you got a couple of more weeks

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with. That's the long days of winter. No kidding,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it. I mean seriously, I've not had to

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<v Speaker 1>schedule in front of me. I'm about to. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking at after Thanksgiving, this team has six games,

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<v Speaker 1>three of which are in a row on the road.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh. So after Thanksgiving you've got because the final

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<v Speaker 1>regular season game this year is on January ninth, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so you're taking it all the way to then,

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<v Speaker 1>and man and so I said, yeah, from a mental standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's only you have to break it up

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<v Speaker 1>just to otherwise it's too consuming. And as he said,

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<v Speaker 1>he adds another quadrants. He said, he looks at it

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<v Speaker 1>more from the physical standpoint for the team, and what

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<v Speaker 1>he will do as they get into December, he'll shorten

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<v Speaker 1>practice and make it feel like it's not as as

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<v Speaker 1>burden as long as it is. Actually he's shortened today, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because they usually started eleven twenty or eleven forty, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>And they started it, and maybe that's also because he's

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<v Speaker 1>the end of this first quadrant and you can, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you can. Also you had the preseason Quadrant two,

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<v Speaker 1>which last you know, from July twentieth until thoughts really played.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, but I mean you're engaged in stuff. So

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<v Speaker 1>and speaking of having to play seventeen games, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the seventeenth game this week, basically the extra that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right in New England. Okay, yeah, that's the added

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<v Speaker 1>game to It's what they did was they added a

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<v Speaker 1>cross non conferency, a crossover game, and just where they

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<v Speaker 1>sat in the standings last year, they did NFC East

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<v Speaker 1>is twentying NFC East team in the Patriots, Yeah, playing

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<v Speaker 1>AFC's teams, and the Patriots wound up in the same

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<v Speaker 1>spot in the standings as the Cowboys did last year.

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<v Speaker 1>And then one other note on practice, So we now

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<v Speaker 1>know that Leale Collins will miss the fifth game with

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<v Speaker 1>the ruling that came down, but he has been eligible

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<v Speaker 1>to be in the building and work on his conditioning.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's been doing that I think a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>last week and some and he'll continue this week and

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<v Speaker 1>then he'll get the buy and a week of practice

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<v Speaker 1>before the next game. So I hope he comes bag mad.

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<v Speaker 1>He should he should be, He'll be four hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty thousand dollars mad. Yeah, absolutely, because I think it

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<v Speaker 1>comes back so angry. He just takes it out on

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<v Speaker 1>the opposition. And by the way, and I know there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of talk out there talk radio, well, why

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<v Speaker 1>would they mess with the continuity on the offensive line?

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<v Speaker 1>Just lets steal play because he's playing so well. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, look, Lele Collins. The last time we saw

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<v Speaker 1>him play a season, he had a Pro Bowl season,

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't get voted into it, and he was on

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<v Speaker 1>the verge the next year. Unfortunately the next year got

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<v Speaker 1>wiped out by the hip injury. And you saw off

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<v Speaker 1>looking at what he did this year, right, So let's

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<v Speaker 1>not minimize this guy's talent and saying, oh no, let's

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<v Speaker 1>just go with steal because the Cowboys have done a

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<v Speaker 1>very good job. Steel is improved in his in his

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<v Speaker 1>run blocking, pass blocking. He's gotten helped. They've used those

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<v Speaker 1>two tight ends and they're not always on his side.

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<v Speaker 1>They could be on the other side. But if they're

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side, the defense has got a shift right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he doesn't have to worry about Blitzer's or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, two guys coming at him. Let's not undersell

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<v Speaker 1>Lele Collins and what he can do once he's on

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<v Speaker 1>the field. I think he's been playing at a Pro

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl level once again until this thiscause. The way he

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<v Speaker 1>was playing against Tampa, keeping that off, that defensive line out,

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<v Speaker 1>allowing Dad to throw for five hundred jars or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>he threw for that particul the game, no well, and

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at the running run blocking, no one

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<v Speaker 1>was really successful in that regard. So yeah, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>wash as far as I'm concerned. But now he's been

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<v Speaker 1>playing very well so and that ruling reminds me of

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<v Speaker 1>a saying Tech Shram had long time ago. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>talking to him about a court case, right, and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sometimes a judge should do what's right, not

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<v Speaker 1>what's legal. And that's what happened in this game. He

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<v Speaker 1>did what was legal. He didn't feel like the judge

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<v Speaker 1>basically scolded the NFL from how they conducted this whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But he said, because of the CBA and you agreed

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<v Speaker 1>to have an arbitrator, I can't overrule the arbitrary, struck

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<v Speaker 1>with the letter of the law, right, but from a league,

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<v Speaker 1>from a right and wrong. It was like, no, the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL violated what they should have been doing in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can't overrule the arbitrator. So he'll miss his

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<v Speaker 1>fifth game, get his game fine, and then be ready

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<v Speaker 1>to come back nixt with the next game then against

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<v Speaker 1>at Minnesota. And you know how I look at that

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<v Speaker 1>gowboys just acquired Lyle Collins in the trash. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>you were going to say, and there's another reason why

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<v Speaker 1>I got out of loss. That too, that too, Texas, Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>Other thing was about court cases. They were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>something going to court, and he was like, no, you

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<v Speaker 1>want to get it settled, don't go to court. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, well, why wouldn't you got to court? Go

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<v Speaker 1>to court? And he goes, let me tell you. He goes,

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<v Speaker 1>when they tell you that you're being tried or you're

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<v Speaker 1>being judged by jury of your peers, he goes, they

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<v Speaker 1>ain't your peers. That's good. Yeah, black folks know that

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<v Speaker 1>we've been on that long time. All right, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>sure where that was going. A fanatic experience. It sounded

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<v Speaker 1>like it might have been the first time you had

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<v Speaker 1>read that. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, he had no feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>as we kick off this segment for the first mix

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<v Speaker 1>shot of this day. Yes, sold on. Did you know

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<v Speaker 1>that Bill Belichick perfect had nineteen consecutive winning seasons until

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<v Speaker 1>last year and he's second all time too, Tom Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Landry with twenty And I also another note that Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Belichick has won the most playoff games in NFL history

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<v Speaker 1>with thirty one and in second place with twenty. There

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<v Speaker 1>you go, Bill, Bill was going to open up his

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<v Speaker 1>book to he was gonna double confirm. I. I was

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<v Speaker 1>looking back at that seventy four season to make it sure.

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<v Speaker 1>The Cowboys were eight and six and seventy four that

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<v Speaker 1>was the year, the one year in that twenty years

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs, but they had a winning season, that's right, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>And I was part of eighty four. That was my

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<v Speaker 1>first season. Yeah, that's why I didn't like it, was mickey. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, we look around. There's this little

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<v Speaker 1>elf walking around bad looking. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>the game that decided it was at Miami. Remember Dolphins

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<v Speaker 1>came from behind when To be honest, that game really

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<v Speaker 1>didn't decide it, right, we knew that the game started. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that just kind of they were just having I was

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<v Speaker 1>standing we played as if we still had a chance. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was standing in behind the end zone when Clayton

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<v Speaker 1>was a Clayton that caught the touchdown. That's the second

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<v Speaker 1>test down. He was to be a very good friend

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<v Speaker 1>of mine. So I hear about this all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>just seconded or second just like he hears even though

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't on the other side about your two interceptions.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah he wasn't. Yes, that's correct, that's when they

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<v Speaker 1>had just slow white wide receivers. But they still ran

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<v Speaker 1>by me. So I as you see, Cephalo was no Jimmy.

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<v Speaker 1>These accomplishments this year by certain people are bringing up

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<v Speaker 1>historical markers for the Dallas Cowboys. There you go, that's

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<v Speaker 1>just lets you know, we are a historical organization. So

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the Patriots, what they have done over

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<v Speaker 1>a two decade period, what the Cowboys did over a

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<v Speaker 1>two decade period, I would say both of them are

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<v Speaker 1>pretty remarkable. Yeah, and the Cowboys was actually two and

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<v Speaker 1>a half decades. Right. Well, I guess if you just

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<v Speaker 1>look at twenty years from sixty five to eighty five, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and guests who played for both of them, he's taken credits. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's hey, that's right, I'll take credit. That's correct. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Similarities between coach Landry and coach Belichick, that's easy. Intellect,

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<v Speaker 1>just straight up intellect. And with that intellect brought a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of hard work on themselves. They didn't need anyone

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<v Speaker 1>to push them. I don't know who taught Tom Landry,

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<v Speaker 1>you know his skills as a coach. Of course, he

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<v Speaker 1>was a fighter pilot. I believe in the in the

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<v Speaker 1>Air Force, but when it came to Belichick, his father

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<v Speaker 1>was an amazing coach, so Bill was always there with him,

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<v Speaker 1>so you just kind of knew where that was going.

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<v Speaker 1>He was wasn't like he was some great player. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think he even tried to play sports, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>always been around it, and I admired their command of

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<v Speaker 1>all facets of the game. And that's why I'm always

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<v Speaker 1>talking about how that can help. I mean, that's just

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<v Speaker 1>what I was taught by great coaches. There is no

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<v Speaker 1>just offense defense. There is no just a quarterback versus

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a defensive back. This entire team, whoever you

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<v Speaker 1>play on. Any successful team I've been on, it's always

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<v Speaker 1>been because we were strong at those three areas of

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<v Speaker 1>the ball game. And that's why they have defense, offense,

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<v Speaker 1>and the kicking game because they all matter. You know. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting because you think of most coaches, most head coaches,

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<v Speaker 1>they have either a background and eat on either the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive side of the ball or the offensive side of

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<v Speaker 1>the ball. Okay, he's an offensive coach. He's a defensive coach.

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<v Speaker 1>And even though uh Landry was a defensive player or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, his innovation thirty seven career picks or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that, by the way, and you can look up

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<v Speaker 1>his where going now. He had six picks six in

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<v Speaker 1>a row in nineteen fifty. It was either fifty one

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<v Speaker 1>or fifth consecutive game. It was the first six in

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<v Speaker 1>a row. Pro Football Reference has games. If you'll look

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<v Speaker 1>at his game his entire every day, Tom had six

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<v Speaker 1>picks with the Giant. Hey, that's what I had with

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<v Speaker 1>the Giant six six. It was either fifty one or

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<v Speaker 1>fifty two, I think, man, And when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>Tom's career, I mean, on a personal level, DBS, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we were his least favorite position. You know. He

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<v Speaker 1>just never really showed us much love. He didn't really.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he appreciate what we did, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>never a point of a conversation. And when the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>came up, he was shooting down. I guess he was

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<v Speaker 1>just so afraid for us, you know. And when you

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<v Speaker 1>look at one of the other things that he did,

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<v Speaker 1>he invented the defense. Yeah, he invented the flex defense. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you can attribute the Amba defense

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<v Speaker 1>to Bill Belichick, but you can definitely attribute to flex

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<v Speaker 1>to Tom Langeman because that's straight up. He authored that

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<v Speaker 1>entire defense for stopping the great Jim Brown. So I

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<v Speaker 1>believe Tom was a player coach when he designed it

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<v Speaker 1>because his uh he was. He was trying to help

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<v Speaker 1>out the middle linebacker. Who was the middle Huff, Sam

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<v Speaker 1>sam Huff. Yeah, Sam Huff was having problems with Jim Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>and Tom said, don't well, I'll take care of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And he designed the defense so that Sam Huff could

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<v Speaker 1>always be there to meet Jim Brown in the whole

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<v Speaker 1>wherever he went down the line. How's your research? Landry

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<v Speaker 1>had thirty two interceptions in his career, right, thirty one

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<v Speaker 1>with the New York Giants and one with the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Yankees. Wow, love it this first year and that

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<v Speaker 1>was the first first New York Yankees, same team. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the Yankees must have folded or something. They ended

0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:52.400
<v Speaker 1>up coming here, that's right, right, like fifty football yams. Yes,

0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:55.520
<v Speaker 1>for one year. I don't even think they finished the year.

0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I think they got bought out and they moved back East. Okay,

0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:02.919
<v Speaker 1>someone and there's people looking it up right now, but

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:09.320
<v Speaker 1>on Pro Football in Pro Football Reference the night I

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 1>just clicked on on Landry's bio. The nineteen forty nine

0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 1>New York Yankees. And usually at the top it has

0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:20.000
<v Speaker 1>previous season and next season. There's not a next season. Yes,

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:23.680
<v Speaker 1>the last year, Yeah they were done. Yeah. So uh

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:27.800
<v Speaker 1>and and that was the aa FC. Oh okay, so

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:30.200
<v Speaker 1>there's the difference. Yeah, so did you find his six

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:37.000
<v Speaker 1>straight interceptions yet so secutive games? For I thought, that's

0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:44.160
<v Speaker 1>what I read, But then that's first and what they're

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 1>and what they're quoting now is since the merger in

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:52.440
<v Speaker 1>nineteen two. Okay, okay, that's why Don Bishop doesn't okay

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:55.600
<v Speaker 1>as much love deserve, thank you, thank you, I got

0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:58.879
<v Speaker 1>he got all the love he ever deserved on our

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:04.840
<v Speaker 1>show the other day of Roses and Flowers can well,

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 1>unfortunately the game logs are sketchy. Yeah, all right, don't

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:15.639
<v Speaker 1>worry about And also he was a punter. Yes, so

0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 1>that's something else that you can attribute to his resume

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 1>and and attribute to his knowledge of special teams. Maybe

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 1>that's why he loved Danny White. Well, that could be

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 1>because I tell you, people talk about Danny's a quarterback.

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 1>I have always thought he was a much better punter

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:34.080
<v Speaker 1>than a quarterback. And that is no knock on his

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 1>quarterback game, right, because he saved us so many times

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:41.160
<v Speaker 1>with the fake punt, you know actors, if he's gonna

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 1>just kind of run it, you know, run up and

0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 1>kicking and then he takes off. God, he did that

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:50.840
<v Speaker 1>countless times, which extended our drives. I don't remember it

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 1>ever not working. I think it did once. Man thinking

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:57.200
<v Speaker 1>he told the story about one time. Maybe one time

0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 1>got on him. But to me, that's a great sence.

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 1>It's like all the ones that work, Hey, way to go,

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:05.480
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, now, what are you doing? The only reason,

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 1>the only one we don't remember, but that we remember

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 1>that didn't work with the no Danny no, which wasn't

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 1>a punt that was that was a snap from Landry

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 1>had eight picks in three different seasons in nineteen fifty one,

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 1>fifty two, and fifty four, which was an all pro year.

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 1>So the six in a row or either fifty one

0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 1>or fifty should have given us a whole lot more. Yeah, well,

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:32.800
<v Speaker 1>maybe he realized how hard it was back in so

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:35.320
<v Speaker 1>if I took care of the front seven, I'd saved

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 1>my back for But you know what, when the flex

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 1>was put together, it was not made for a defensive

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 1>back at all. Right, I think he's it must be

0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of self hate that he has because now

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 1>on the serious point with the flex, and I try

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:51.920
<v Speaker 1>to explain to people all the time, they don't get it.

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 1>But with the flex, it's made for the run. I

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:58.160
<v Speaker 1>can't have a defense made for the run. In the past,

0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 1>it just doesn't work. So who's the sacrificial lambs the

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 1>second day, whether it's the linebackers or whether it's the dbs,

0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be the ones that's gonna have to give

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 1>up something in order for us to for the sake

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 1>of the scheme itself. And when I came in, you know,

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I wasn't paying attention to that. I

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:19.480
<v Speaker 1>wasn't going to give up anything, which is why I

0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:23.080
<v Speaker 1>got beat sometimes because I'm gonna cover everything because that's

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:24.960
<v Speaker 1>just coming out of college, that's what you know, and

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:27.800
<v Speaker 1>as an acceptor, that's what you want. You're gonna catch

0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 1>every route. So as much as I was doing it

0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot, and it amused Charlie Waters and Dennis Thurman,

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 1>they had all kind of great nicknames for me because

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 1>you're doing something they're not supposed to do. Tom Madge's like,

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 1>you need to stop doing that, Okay, just stop doing it.

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 1>And he never really he just never gave you the

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 1>credit as a defensive back because, like you said, this

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 1>was all about stopping the run, yeah, and it was

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:54.400
<v Speaker 1>not about passing. I remember when we were doing a

0:30:54.600 --> 0:31:00.360
<v Speaker 1>documentary on Doomsday Defense, the first Doomsday one, right, and

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 1>somebody was we were doing the interview and somebody asked

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 1>one of the defensive backs about the flex and they go,

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 1>don't ask me that. Yes to do yes, boy, that

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:13.560
<v Speaker 1>you've never told me that. That's very girl. I can't

0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:16.680
<v Speaker 1>remember who it might have been clear for Charlie something

0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 1>it was. It was probably Charlie because Charlie was always

0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 1>trying to fight for us in the secondary and then

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:26.520
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't gonna listen to myself, Dexter, Michael Downs and

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 1>vine Fellow's not gonna listen to us. He might listen

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:31.240
<v Speaker 1>to Charlie or Dennis Thurman. Had a lot of respect

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 1>with Dennis Thurman in the locker room. So you can

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 1>talk all you want, you're not going to change the

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 1>flex and until it was outdated by I would say

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 1>the first team to outdate the flex would be the

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:49.240
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles Rams. He's still running, yes he is, and

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm still diving after him too. That was a nightmarish So,

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 1>by the way, game yeah, not just game yeah, okay, right, yes,

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 1>game eighty three three, I guess I'm talking about the

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 1>playoff game. That's what I'm talking on the ice in

0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:08.120
<v Speaker 1>the end zone. Both of the playoff games eighty three

0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 1>that was ice in the end zone in Texas Stadium,

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 1>went out there in eighty five we were uh that

0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 1>was a which one was wild to shut out one

0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 1>that I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah. So, by the way,

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 1>people are asking me yesterday about Belichick and what do

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 1>you think he'll do, and I said, well, evanston Walls said,

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 1>and so h McCarthy made mention to it that this

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 1>will be the first time they see uh he was.

0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 1>He made mention of man coverage, and I didn't know

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 1>if that was something that Belichick liked to do. Somebody

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:46.960
<v Speaker 1>said single safety high and then he would use man

0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:50.160
<v Speaker 1>coverage on the wide receiver he started out with. When

0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 1>I was in New York, they were we were perfect

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:55.560
<v Speaker 1>with the Tampa two. I guess it's kind of what

0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 1>they called it now, but I will cover two if

0:32:57.800 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 1>you're depending on how it turned out, it's going to

0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:01.600
<v Speaker 1>be a couple of four. And if you're going to

0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:03.840
<v Speaker 1>play a coup of two or cover four, one thing,

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 1>you got to have linebackers, athletic linebackers. If you don't

0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 1>have them, it ain't gonna work. And he's always that's

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:14.560
<v Speaker 1>why Tampa. Yeah, that's why he's had it with lt

0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 1>and Banks and Pepper and Tampa headed of course with

0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Books and those guys. So yeah, if you're gonna play

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:22.240
<v Speaker 1>a cover two a couple four, your linebackers have to

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:25.000
<v Speaker 1>be extremely athletic, more athletic than most because you have

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 1>to get underneath. You gotta get underneath, you got you

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:29.280
<v Speaker 1>got not going, You have to get underneath. You have

0:33:29.360 --> 0:33:32.720
<v Speaker 1>to react to the short passes as well. Okay, Yeah,

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 1>And they have been on the cutting edge of the

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:38.600
<v Speaker 1>last several years of using more dbs on the field

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:45.160
<v Speaker 1>than and other teams have followed suit. Now super Bowl itself, Yeah,

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 1>we had Eric Howard was the only defensive lineman in

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:51.800
<v Speaker 1>the game for the most part. And that's the thing

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 1>with Belichick, the way he's evolved over the years too.

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can't you can't do what they've done

0:33:57.160 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 1>over this longer period of time without without that imagine

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 1>this though, it's twenty two years with the Patriots. You

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:06.120
<v Speaker 1>know how long he's been coaching in the National Football

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 1>League now, thick, go ahead, forty seven years. Nineteen seventy

0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 1>five his first year. How old was he? Probably right

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 1>out of the academy, wasn't the an army or something? Yeah,

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 1>that's what dad coach. Well, let's see nineteen seven. Let's

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 1>see he is sixty nine right now, and so he

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:32.719
<v Speaker 1>would have been twenty three years old. Wow, And yeah,

0:34:33.360 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 1>seventy five. He was a special assistant with the Baltimore

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Colts in seventy five, and then a couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>with the Lions, the Broncos, and then with the Giant

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:48.879
<v Speaker 1>starting in seventy nine as thus special teams coach, which,

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<v Speaker 1>you think of that one? We had some PG. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's better than when like a quick thing.

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<v Speaker 1>special teams play a part in Sunday's game against the

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<v Speaker 1>New England Patriots. Well, as we were taping the Mike

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<v Speaker 1>McCarthy Show last night, Uh, he made a point to

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<v Speaker 1>me in a break that we need to talk special teams.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, we know why the time up there and

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:05.319
<v Speaker 1>of course and of course he was not a part

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:09.440
<v Speaker 1>of that, yes two years ago. But it's just it's

0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:12.360
<v Speaker 1>what the Patriots do. And I think one Matthew Slater

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:15.880
<v Speaker 1>is still there. That's exactly right. And he was the

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:18.360
<v Speaker 1>guy that blocked the punt because the guys on the

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:23.920
<v Speaker 1>outside didn't do their assignment and left a gap. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>as I look up Matthews Slater, if there was a

0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:32.880
<v Speaker 1>guy to make the Hall of Fame who is strictly

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:37.280
<v Speaker 1>a special teams player, Matthews Slater might be the leading candidate.

0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Not Kenny the Shark. Let's see, you got them on

0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:44.520
<v Speaker 1>that one, got them on. Now come on now, Bill,

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 1>don't don't how many Pro Bowls has Slater made? I

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:50.120
<v Speaker 1>was I was going to say like three or four? Nine?

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh what I didn't think that sounded like Zeke the

0:38:53.440 --> 0:39:00.480
<v Speaker 1>other day the interception record. Oh, that's a lot. All

0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:04.239
<v Speaker 1>with the Patriots. Yes, yeah, that's amazing that they could

0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:06.680
<v Speaker 1>afford a special teams player for me. I mean, that's

0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 1>the priority in two thousand and eight fifth round draft

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:13.040
<v Speaker 1>pick out of UCLA, of course, the son of Jackie Slater,

0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:18.560
<v Speaker 1>and of course and um Jackson State University. By the way,

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 1>hbcuh go ahead, it would And so you we're talking

0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:31.439
<v Speaker 1>father's son Hall of famers. Yeah, okay, um, but I mean, now, one,

0:39:31.760 --> 0:39:33.839
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of one of those deals once you make

0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:37.880
<v Speaker 1>All Pro, once you make the Pro Bow, and once

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:41.719
<v Speaker 1>you have that designation that you're only draft looking at

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:45.719
<v Speaker 1>anybody else exactly, only drafted for special team's purposes. Not

0:39:45.760 --> 0:39:49.080
<v Speaker 1>and take nothing away from Matthew Slater, okay, but it

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:54.359
<v Speaker 1>illustrates the emphasis that um Belichick puts on his core

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:57.080
<v Speaker 1>special team ever since. Asked where he lines up while

0:39:57.120 --> 0:40:00.200
<v Speaker 1>on that punt block in twenty nineteen, he will was

0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of halfway between the middle in the end. Yeah,

0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 1>and he came through a crease that they blocked the

0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:10.800
<v Speaker 1>wrong way. I mean, it wasn't like he had this

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 1>great play. He just saw that, Oh that guy's going

0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:16.279
<v Speaker 1>that way. That guy's going that way. I just come

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:18.360
<v Speaker 1>through here. That's the kind of heads up players, right,

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Bill likes. Yes. Okay, So how big is John Fossil's

0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:29.960
<v Speaker 1>role in this game? Oh bones, let's go, we're thinking

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 1>we break out the old. First of all, he don't

0:40:35.200 --> 0:40:38.719
<v Speaker 1>get too excited, you know, that's his problem. He's like

0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:42.520
<v Speaker 1>his special teams players. They called special teams players special

0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:46.400
<v Speaker 1>teams players because they are special and sometimes they can

0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 1>act a little special. Right, They'll do things if you go,

0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:51.440
<v Speaker 1>like especially when it comes down in the ball on

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:54.040
<v Speaker 1>the gold line. I know people work on that all

0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 1>the time, but just see some of the biggest idiots.

0:40:56.920 --> 0:41:01.120
<v Speaker 1>Just dude, why you're running so fast? You know. I mean,

0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:03.880
<v Speaker 1>it's just some of the things that they do. And Fossil,

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:07.160
<v Speaker 1>to me, he's that guy that can really he can

0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 1>empathize with him and he can relate to them. So

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 1>I just don't want him to think, oh he comes

0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:16.080
<v Speaker 1>better check here comes to Patriots. So let me do

0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 1>something over the top special. Just do your job. Okay,

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:23.160
<v Speaker 1>and keep and keep the Patriots from doing something something.

0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Let's not get to and talking about guys running down

0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 1>like that. They run down like that on coverage and

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:36.399
<v Speaker 1>I see him practice it all the time, where okay,

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:38.879
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna run down his facial account and then break down,

0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 1>right so you can go with They forget that, They

0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:45.360
<v Speaker 1>just run by the guy. Yeah, it's like all sitting

0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 1>right there and all of y'all, you come and dive

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:51.920
<v Speaker 1>on that ball, that the one y'all right, right, you know,

0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:57.440
<v Speaker 1>somebody's gonna slide and everyone's so, oh my god, how

0:41:57.520 --> 0:42:01.280
<v Speaker 1>could that happen because of you? You're done it, my goodness,

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:05.120
<v Speaker 1>play under control. That's it. That's the team is. Let's

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:08.120
<v Speaker 1>do it guys. And the ones that don't know how

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:10.239
<v Speaker 1>to do it the best, they're the ones that have

0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:13.320
<v Speaker 1>the best teams period because they are in tune to

0:42:13.440 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 1>doing it the right way. It's not just about hustle.

0:42:16.000 --> 0:42:19.560
<v Speaker 1>It's about accomplishing something, and that's where the best ones

0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:22.200
<v Speaker 1>have the best records. You know. The tough thing on

0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:25.160
<v Speaker 1>special teams too, like in training camp, you can't you

0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:28.440
<v Speaker 1>don't practice it live. You have no live sessions on

0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:32.440
<v Speaker 1>special teams until you get into a preseason game and

0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:36.560
<v Speaker 1>then it's like, oh, this is what you're supposed to do? Right? Well,

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:39.239
<v Speaker 1>how am I seeing people? Yeah? Why are they trying

0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:45.080
<v Speaker 1>to hit me? One other thing on Slater, the Patriots

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:48.160
<v Speaker 1>not only drafted him in the fifth round, they also

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:50.960
<v Speaker 1>traded up to draft him in the fifth round that

0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:56.440
<v Speaker 1>they had Okay, yeah, because jacket Slater would be on

0:42:56.560 --> 0:43:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah jackets out there? Yeah, so good one yep. So

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:03.320
<v Speaker 1>special teams would be a big part of this one. Okay,

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:07.120
<v Speaker 1>So you think of Fossil's mindset going into this one,

0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:11.040
<v Speaker 1>matching up against the team that's known for special teams. Whatever.

0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Now you're right. So coaching about dan Quinn, I mean

0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:18.120
<v Speaker 1>he was coaching the Falcons and a super Bowl against

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:22.759
<v Speaker 1>the Patriots team, and he has every play in his head.

0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:24.759
<v Speaker 1>In fact, he would have been a defensive coordinator in

0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:28.279
<v Speaker 1>Seattle against the Patriots and a super Bowl also he

0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 1>has he has every play in his So how much

0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:36.480
<v Speaker 1>how much to do coaches get motivated to face Belichick?

0:43:36.880 --> 0:43:39.200
<v Speaker 1>This is one of those things where they didn't wait

0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:42.080
<v Speaker 1>till this week to prepare it, right, right, you see

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:44.160
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. They've been looking forward to this all.

0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:50.560
<v Speaker 1>That's my redemption moment. Yeah, we're spending. We got redemption moment.

0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:53.160
<v Speaker 1>We got mojole moments in redemption. As soon as that

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:56.200
<v Speaker 1>schedule came out. Okay, in the month of May, they

0:43:56.239 --> 0:44:00.919
<v Speaker 1>stayed up late. Let's study Patriots. Why not. We're gonna

0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:03.239
<v Speaker 1>put that to the side. We're gonna donate all that,

0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:05.959
<v Speaker 1>you know, commit all that time to this. I'm gonna

0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:09.520
<v Speaker 1>put some time to my Patriots. And they look at

0:44:09.520 --> 0:44:12.920
<v Speaker 1>it that way. Dude, I know that that you get

0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:15.680
<v Speaker 1>more motivated if you go up against writers, the strong

0:44:15.760 --> 0:44:21.399
<v Speaker 1>writers from the other team. Yeah, I'll show. I'll show

0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:27.000
<v Speaker 1>who's the writer for the Patriots. They've they've changed over

0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:29.840
<v Speaker 1>pretty much, just like everyone of the days. Could you

0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:35.000
<v Speaker 1>kick his ass? I'm trying. I'm forgetting the guy's name.

0:44:35.120 --> 0:44:39.400
<v Speaker 1>He had worked for UM for one of the papers

0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:41.880
<v Speaker 1>up there. It's been The Boston Globe, and then he

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:45.640
<v Speaker 1>went over to Mike Reese. Is who I'm trying to think.

0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Ok Yeah, he impressed me as a young guy, and

0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:53.560
<v Speaker 1>he's progressed and now he's either with ESPN dot com

0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:57.000
<v Speaker 1>that's got the athletic so I think he's a nine

0:44:57.040 --> 0:45:00.319
<v Speaker 1>time pro bowler. He is a yea, now he good,

0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:02.680
<v Speaker 1>He's right. Let's think about this. He has to be

0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:04.600
<v Speaker 1>the worst job in the world to be a beat

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 1>writer for Belli and Belichick. Oh you know what though,

0:45:08.800 --> 0:45:12.759
<v Speaker 1>I last year during covid U, they were you know,

0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:16.960
<v Speaker 1>on back when we had periscope. Periscope went away in May,

0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:20.000
<v Speaker 1>and so I was following that was good thing. I

0:45:20.160 --> 0:45:23.840
<v Speaker 1>followed the Patriots and so every morning at like eight am,

0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:27.240
<v Speaker 1>Belichick's press conference, I get an alert the Belichick press conference,

0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:29.560
<v Speaker 1>and I would listen to him. And actually there were

0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:33.800
<v Speaker 1>certain days that he was really good in forthcoming in

0:45:33.920 --> 0:45:36.319
<v Speaker 1>his press conference. And that was just this past year.

0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:38.480
<v Speaker 1>That yeah, last year, and it was a bad year

0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:40.640
<v Speaker 1>for him. You know, they went seven y nine and

0:45:41.160 --> 0:45:44.839
<v Speaker 1>they didn't have anything to hide because they were bad. Yeah, yeah, maybe.

0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:46.799
<v Speaker 1>So you know what the funniest line I heard him

0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:50.080
<v Speaker 1>and it was a it was at Super Bowl. So

0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:52.400
<v Speaker 1>there's been so many I don't remember which one it

0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:55.200
<v Speaker 1>was for him, right, uh. And it was in the

0:45:55.840 --> 0:46:00.560
<v Speaker 1>probably the Tuesday media session, and so got the big

0:46:00.680 --> 0:46:05.520
<v Speaker 1>room there and somebody asked them just inain question it

0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:08.040
<v Speaker 1>was like and he kind of looked at the guy

0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:11.919
<v Speaker 1>and he scaled and he goes, so you guys, He goes,

0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:16.240
<v Speaker 1>do you have this book of questions? And the chapter

0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:20.440
<v Speaker 1>one is these are the questions you have to ask regardless?

0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:24.759
<v Speaker 1>And you know what? He was kind of right, Yes,

0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:29.719
<v Speaker 1>he knows that, you know. I think what I liked

0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:32.480
<v Speaker 1>about Bill. First of all, he and LT got along

0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:37.560
<v Speaker 1>extremely well. Uh we were I think we LT was

0:46:37.640 --> 0:46:41.600
<v Speaker 1>late for the meeting in training camp and you just

0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:44.960
<v Speaker 1>go from them practice field. I'm to the locker room

0:46:45.000 --> 0:46:48.000
<v Speaker 1>to the practice field. It's like half of our walk

0:46:48.080 --> 0:46:51.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe twelve of them out and you have cause that

0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:53.880
<v Speaker 1>also because the people are also trying to get in

0:46:53.960 --> 0:46:56.400
<v Speaker 1>as well to come and see us, so you the

0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:58.600
<v Speaker 1>cause would be with And this was at the stadium

0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:01.320
<v Speaker 1>right that. This is at TIN in the camp training.

0:47:02.320 --> 0:47:04.640
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember the university that we were at. All

0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:07.400
<v Speaker 1>the rich people lived out It wasn't Offstra that was

0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:09.960
<v Speaker 1>the judge. I think, yeah, it was where all the

0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:12.920
<v Speaker 1>rich people and executives lived out there, all executives and

0:47:13.000 --> 0:47:14.560
<v Speaker 1>all of that. I can't remember this, but it was

0:47:14.680 --> 0:47:17.879
<v Speaker 1>upstate in New York. And he said, hey, LT, come

0:47:17.920 --> 0:47:20.520
<v Speaker 1>on man, everybody's been sitting here waiting. You said, what

0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:28.479
<v Speaker 1>was what was the deal? LT goes traffic just because

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:31.480
<v Speaker 1>the cars actually with you. But I just thought that

0:47:31.560 --> 0:47:34.280
<v Speaker 1>was an excellent answer, traffic coach. I was in traffic

0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Bryant College, no training camp locations talking. Yeah, I'm sorry,

0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:49.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It was university hold

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:53.080
<v Speaker 1>on Pace was one of them all right before they signed.

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:59.200
<v Speaker 1>They didna get it. They want it was, um, what

0:47:59.360 --> 0:48:04.480
<v Speaker 1>you're you talking? Abod twenty five more rows? Here they

0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:09.520
<v Speaker 1>go all over the place. Fairly Dickinson, fairly, Dickinson. There

0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:12.759
<v Speaker 1>you go, We got all the answer, right. Megan used

0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:14.759
<v Speaker 1>to hang his sheets out the window when he would

0:48:14.760 --> 0:48:17.520
<v Speaker 1>climb down and sneak out from training camp, like, man,

0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:20.120
<v Speaker 1>was this a jailbreak? Well, eventually, I guess it could

0:48:20.160 --> 0:48:23.680
<v Speaker 1>have been well in thousand in thousand oaks. So they

0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:27.719
<v Speaker 1>used to the dorms and then they had a media dorm.

0:48:27.840 --> 0:48:29.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you were aware of that, but

0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:32.680
<v Speaker 1>the media dorm was right across from the check in

0:48:33.000 --> 0:48:36.600
<v Speaker 1>hut or whatever that was it security or whatever. So

0:48:37.239 --> 0:48:39.160
<v Speaker 1>in the back of the dorm there was a little

0:48:39.520 --> 0:48:46.560
<v Speaker 1>plaza patio and they used to stock the refrigerator with beer. Right,

0:48:46.920 --> 0:48:49.439
<v Speaker 1>So after we'd go out at night, we'd come back,

0:48:49.520 --> 0:48:52.440
<v Speaker 1>sit on the patio, and to the left of us

0:48:52.800 --> 0:48:56.600
<v Speaker 1>was a softball field, and if you go there was

0:48:56.640 --> 0:48:59.200
<v Speaker 1>a big field, and to the right was a dormitory.

0:48:59.440 --> 0:49:02.759
<v Speaker 1>Right when a parking lot. And so every once in

0:49:02.840 --> 0:49:05.880
<v Speaker 1>a while we used to call them runners with some

0:49:06.080 --> 0:49:09.120
<v Speaker 1>player would go from the softball field to that parking lot.

0:49:11.480 --> 0:49:15.319
<v Speaker 1>I know exactly. I'm surprised more people didn't call us out.

0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:17.719
<v Speaker 1>We would sit there and we'd see one and go

0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:20.560
<v Speaker 1>and somebody goes, there goes a runner, and we go, hey, hey, hey,

0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:23.279
<v Speaker 1>just yelling. The guy would run faster. The door of

0:49:23.360 --> 0:49:25.400
<v Speaker 1>the car would open, the lights would come on, the

0:49:25.480 --> 0:49:27.520
<v Speaker 1>guy would dive in the back seat, and the car

0:49:27.600 --> 0:49:32.000
<v Speaker 1>would take off. They were escaping for the night. Well

0:49:32.040 --> 0:49:34.759
<v Speaker 1>you got la right down the street, I mean, come on, yeah,

0:49:34.960 --> 0:49:37.399
<v Speaker 1>Well who's gonna stay in the dorm. When you see

0:49:38.040 --> 0:49:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Irving Magic Johnson there is his basketball camp, he goes, hey, comy, hey,

0:49:42.640 --> 0:49:45.319
<v Speaker 1>he knows me about cumming. We'll come to my play

0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:48.640
<v Speaker 1>to night. Sure, No fo, no, man, we got practice

0:49:48.680 --> 0:49:50.759
<v Speaker 1>tomorrow morning. No, don't worry about it. Me and the

0:49:50.840 --> 0:49:52.880
<v Speaker 1>boys would be there or the guy. We made it.

0:49:52.960 --> 0:49:55.440
<v Speaker 1>We're going through the little checkpoint and they would have

0:49:55.600 --> 0:49:59.680
<v Speaker 1>their bible and their toiletry kit. It's like just gonna

0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:04.759
<v Speaker 1>be a lot long bible station rights and that was

0:50:04.800 --> 0:50:08.200
<v Speaker 1>a John Wooden basketball camp that was on. The Magic

0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:11.640
<v Speaker 1>would come as the guests, instructor or whatever. I remember

0:50:11.680 --> 0:50:15.040
<v Speaker 1>interviewing him there right outside the gym. That's why. That's

0:50:15.040 --> 0:50:17.839
<v Speaker 1>why I saw right outside the gym. Yeh. That old

0:50:17.920 --> 0:50:23.640
<v Speaker 1>gym now is a warehouse for their UH play production

0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:28.640
<v Speaker 1>group at the university. So they store all the props

0:50:28.680 --> 0:50:31.400
<v Speaker 1>in that gym. Now, that's what it's turned out to be.

0:50:31.560 --> 0:50:34.360
<v Speaker 1>They still have the football stadium right there. They got

0:50:34.440 --> 0:50:38.120
<v Speaker 1>a new football soccer field. Yeah yeah, all right, and

0:50:38.320 --> 0:50:40.320
<v Speaker 1>the stands or the stands. I'm going out there, so

0:50:40.520 --> 0:50:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm driving, Oh, go in, go walk. I went there

0:50:43.520 --> 0:50:46.040
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago because the cafeteria is still

0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:48.360
<v Speaker 1>the same. So that one year we were at training

0:50:48.400 --> 0:50:51.279
<v Speaker 1>camp and we did a deal on training camp at

0:50:51.320 --> 0:50:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Thousand Oaks. So Nate and I walked through, did interviews

0:50:55.080 --> 0:50:59.600
<v Speaker 1>there and we went into the cafeteria and still the same.

0:50:59.719 --> 0:51:02.799
<v Speaker 1>You can down them steps either way right, and there

0:51:02.920 --> 0:51:05.719
<v Speaker 1>was the big area and there was a lady there.

0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:09.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, probably looked like in her sixties at least.

0:51:10.320 --> 0:51:13.160
<v Speaker 1>And uh so we're looking around. She goes, hey, you

0:51:13.280 --> 0:51:15.879
<v Speaker 1>guys know that the Cowboys used to have training camp

0:51:15.960 --> 0:51:18.640
<v Speaker 1>here and this is where they ate. And Nate goes, yeah,

0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:22.319
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, and she goes, yeah, I used

0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:24.759
<v Speaker 1>to serve him all the time. It's like, wait a minute.

0:51:24.800 --> 0:51:27.080
<v Speaker 1>We started doing the math and she had been working

0:51:27.160 --> 0:51:31.880
<v Speaker 1>there for like over thirty years in the same lady.

0:51:32.040 --> 0:51:35.080
<v Speaker 1>She's there serving you guys. She's the one that used

0:51:35.120 --> 0:51:37.960
<v Speaker 1>to let me, uh she would mark me present for

0:51:38.120 --> 0:51:42.520
<v Speaker 1>breakfast because I didn't want to go. She marked me

0:51:42.640 --> 0:51:47.279
<v Speaker 1>present for breakfast, and I thank the Yeah. I mean,

0:51:47.719 --> 0:51:49.239
<v Speaker 1>what do you do? When I left training camp? I

0:51:49.360 --> 0:51:55.120
<v Speaker 1>bother some Jack Daniels or something drink he was now

0:51:55.160 --> 0:52:01.400
<v Speaker 1>they getting mad at Lele College. That's the same she

0:52:01.560 --> 0:52:03.080
<v Speaker 1>was there. Well, I don't know if that was the

0:52:03.120 --> 0:52:05.640
<v Speaker 1>same woman, but she had been working there since Cowboys.

0:52:05.800 --> 0:52:13.200
<v Speaker 1>Pretty yeah, so that would be like, yeah, well you'll

0:52:13.239 --> 0:52:15.680
<v Speaker 1>have to go see her when you go out there. Yeah,

0:52:16.400 --> 0:52:19.640
<v Speaker 1>all right, and that will do it. We're seven minutes

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<v Speaker 1>late getting out this edition of Big Shots, and we'll

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