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This 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:35.880 involves like the Nellis Air Force Testing Range in Area 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:38.920 fifty one and all kinds of cool stuff. It's pretty cool. 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:41.520 So yeah, let's jump right in. Uh, we're gonna talk 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:45.400 about the very strange disappearance of a guy named Kenny 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:48.680 Beach in the mountains just east of the Air Force 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:52.720 range that I just mentioned. Uh, this happened in late 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:55.640 so that means that we are kind of breaking our 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:58.800 five year rule just a little bit. It's it's it's 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:02.760 just barely out there. Yeah, it's less than a year away. 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.360 But but I've been following this story for two or 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:07.840 three years now and there's been no movement on it 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:10.440 at all. So I think we'll probably saved. And for 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:14.000 those of you who don't know what we're talking about, UM, 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:16.440 we have a rule where we won't cover a case 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:20.440 that is five years old, but that hasn't been active 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:23.320 for less than five years, right, so you know, people say, like, 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:27.799 who Banks he is? That's you know, twenty years old. 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:30.519 No it's not, because Banks is still a thing, right, 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:33.760 But sometimes we will break our rule for things like this. Yeah, 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:37.560 we will actually it's it's pretty close to the margin. Yeah. So, 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:40.239 but I think people need to know about this story. 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:43.160 We need to find Kenny, and I'm sure we've got 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:47.520 some Las Vegas listeners. You kill Kenny somebody. That's the 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:52.520 only time we're making a joke. Right in some comments 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:54.519 sections out there in the web, some people have made 0:02:54.560 --> 0:03:00.880 that comment. No, okay, but back to Kenny here. I 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:02.400 wanted to give a shout out real quick like to 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:05.639 our listener Jacob, who suggested this story a while back. 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:08.920 Thanks Jacob. Here's where some people put the starting point 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:13.120 of our story, which would be December. A YouTuber are 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:16.080 called Serious Disclosure, which posts a lot of like UFO 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:21.560 kind of stuff, paranormal, paranormal, extraterrestrial stuff. Yeah. They posted 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:24.359 a video that day called Son of an Area fifty 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:26.560 one Technician, which is an interview of a guy named 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:30.280 Paul h Utes whose father worked on secret government projects 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:36.560 out there around and near are. That's what he says. Yeah, 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:38.600 a lot of his work took place in the Nellis 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:41.280 Air Force Range, near where our mystery takes place, just 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:43.920 a hop skip jump away and you may have heard 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:45.880 of this. It takes up an enormous chunk of southern 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:48.960 Nevada northwest of Las Vegas, and it includes of course 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:51.320 Area fifty one. Didn't we talk about this at one 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:56.640 point that Utah is like owned by the Air Force. 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:01.440 It's some in absurd percentage of Utah is owned by 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:05.320 the military. Yeah, I mean the Western United States, an 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:07.200 absurd amount of his own by the federal g But 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:12.280 you talked particularly are you talking to Nevada, Nevada both, Yeah, 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:17.040 the four Corners areas. Yeah, Yeah, there's a ton of that, 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:20.400 especially like Nevada. I really got to the brunt of 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:23.200 it for things like Area fifty one and also nuclear testing. 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:28.120 A lot of news like a beautiful empty desert to 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:33.320 do you and White Sands which is beautiful but also 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:38.960 terrifying probably radioactive as hell, so radioactive. Yeah. Yeah, But 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.880 back to our video this, uh Paul, you guy said 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:43.919 that his father got drunk one time they were in 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:46.320 Germany at some sort of like you know, beer garden 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.440 sort of thing. Is that UTS? I think it's because 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:53.120 it's spelled the way that US potatoes spelled. I thought 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:56.800 they pronounced that. Yeah, that's fine. UTS is probably the 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:59.320 mispronouncing that should have been. I don't remember there at 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:03.359 October and father starts. His dad starts talking about some 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:05.240 of his secret stuff that had been working on for 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:08.080 all these years, and he talked about this one thing. 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:11.200 Apparently what mostly what he was doing there was he 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:14.240 was being handed alien technology and they expected to kind 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:16.960 of reverse engineer it. That's what he said. That's what 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:19.200 he said. Yeah, And so one of the biggest project 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:20.840 he worked on was this thing where they were trying 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:24.359 to essentially create a whole new kind of energy source. 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:27.520 And they had this project that was going and it used, 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:30.880 it had a lot of organic components to it, and 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:33.960 it never wind up working in the end. But his 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:37.400 dad told him that this thing almost when it was 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:40.320 like all put together and everything almost it was quote 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:42.919 actually i'll quote it here, almost like it had a 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:47.760 consciousness unquote. How how far into this guy's video were 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:49.960 you able to make it? I watched it all the 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:53.840 way through. You you have a better constitution than I do. 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:57.200 I couldn't do it. I think I got maybe like 0:05:57.240 --> 0:06:01.320 a minute and a half. I felt like I had 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:03.039 to get all the way through. But I feel like 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:05.440 you try to skip on videos like this and then 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:07.560 you have to go back. You're like it makes it worse, 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:09.560 it takes longer. You might as well just sit down 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.520 and suffer through it. It's kind of like porn, yeah, 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:14.760 where you like skip ahead and you're like, we'll not 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:17.000 have to go back and understand why they're doing that 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:22.800 action that because it's the script doesn't make sense. I mean, 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:28.000 the dialogue just doesn't line up. I'd say stuff like, wow, 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:31.440 that doesn't look very comfortable. Yeah, yeah, that looks kind 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:33.719 of a natural. But anyway back to our thing. Okay. 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:38.160 Another YouTuber, a guy named snake Bit McGhee, the name 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:40.920 entire Yeah, that's kind of a cool name. He watched 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:45.520 the entire video and uh commented on it, and here's 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:47.760 what he had to say, Steve, would you mind reading this? 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:53.200 Should I do this in my David decompany voice, no 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:56.880 regular voice? This ain't nothing. I'm a long distance hiker. 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:59.440 One time, during one of my hikes out by Nola's 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.359 Air Force's, I found a hidden cave. The entrance of 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:05.440 the cave was shaped like a perfect capital M. I 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.479 always enter every cave I find, but as I began 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:12.240 to enter this particular cave, my whole body began to vibrate. 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:14.920 The closer I got to the cave entrance the worst 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:19.160 the vibrating became suddenly I became very scared and high 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:21.400 tailed it out of there. That was one of the 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:24.760 strangest things that ever happened to me. All Right, thanks Steve, 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:27.440 And uh so that's from snake Bitt McGee, who, of 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:31.280 course was none other than Kenny Beach. Yeah, it was, yeah, 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:35.200 and his comment got some unkind replies from some skeptical 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:42.480 people out there. You nice, Yeah they were. They made 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:45.080 fun of him, and there was there was there was 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:48.240 some other things here, like he said one time, I'm 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:51.360 going to go back. Uh this is actually I got 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:54.160 some of the stuff off of Reddit because it turns 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:57.840 out the original video they disabled the comments unfortunately. Yeah, 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:00.960 so they are gone. So but luckily there are people 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:03.640 out there that snagged the that snagged them. And also 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:09.680 we have the like way back Machine, Freezy Healthy. Well 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:11.920 sometimes I don't know if YouTube is one of them, 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:14.880 because I I guess I just haven't checked recently, but 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:18.640 there are a lot of sites, the bigger name sites 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:22.560 that disabled the way back Machine, which I ran into 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:24.960 recently with one of our cases where it was just 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:28.760 kind of like it was you couldn't even crawl bastards. Yeah, 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:32.240 I hate that anyway, But screen caps. I got some 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:34.880 screen caps, he says, some some Reddit eues. It's just 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:39.400 what obviously, as you can imagine, was discussed intensely on Reddit. Yeah, 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:44.920 sometime in late he after some taunting, he commented again, 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:46.839 I'm going to add it this a little bit. But 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:50.200 he commented Kenny snake Bit said, I am going back. 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:52.400 I will film what I saw. I can't say it 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:55.120 will be interesting. Maybe it's just a strange looking cave 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.079 that has a mountain lion living in it. It should 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.160 be sometime this week. I'll have my nine milliment with 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:01.079 me this time, just in case. Last time I was 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:06.400 unarmed and that very dangerous terrain. The mountain is located 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:09.000 right next to a bombing range. I found some giant 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:12.160 a few rounds of AMMO before and he goes on 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:14.079 a little bit like that and then ended up. I 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:16.080 hope it turns out to be something crazy that would 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:20.320 be so cool. And yeah, it sounds a lot like Kenny. 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:22.839 It does sound like Kenny, doesn't it. Kenny, by the way, 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:25.319 when he left on his final four right to the 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:27.160 m K, he was forty seven, but he had that 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:32.480 kind of kind of did not seem youthful enthusiasm about him. 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:34.880 I thought he really didn't look like he was. He 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:37.199 didn't look or speak or act like he was for 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:43.800 he acted like a twenty something near two mid twenties. Yeah, yeah, 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:46.080 yeah he did. He he was young at heart. There's 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:48.439 no doubt. I shouldn't say it was he was slash 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.920 is hard because we don't know what happened to Kenny, right, Yeah. 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:54.880 And then uh, and then after he went out in 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:57.640 early October, I think because he wanted to go out 0:09:57.679 --> 0:09:59.560 and find this cave again to prove these people wrong. 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.320 He wanted film it, documented everything, because the Internet is 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:04.080 taunting him. And the best thing to do when the 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:07.040 Internet taunts you is to show the Internet it's wrong. Yeah. 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:09.720 And so, as as per these comments that I just 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:12.120 read some excerpts from, he did indeed go back. He 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:15.920 went sometime early October, took it it, took his video 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:18.400 camera with him like he said he would, and he 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:22.720 posted a video of this trip on October seventeen. Let's 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:24.400 play a clip from the video so you can all 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:27.480 hear Kenny speak for himself. Yeah, I'm looking for a 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:29.480 cave that I I found, and I didn't have a 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:32.480 I didn't have a side arm when I was here before, 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:35.880 and something about that cave just spooked me. At all 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:38.280 the caves I've ever gone in, this one just made 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:40.760 my body vibrate. The closer I got to it, the 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:42.960 crazier my body felt. And I was like, all right, 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:45.160 I'm not gonna go in there right now, but I'm 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:47.719 coming back someday. And I talked to some people on 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.400 YouTube and I told me I'm coming out here, you know, 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:52.640 because they kind of called my hand on it. So 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:54.840 I don't know if there's gonna be anything to it, 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:57.680 but it might be interesting if I can find it. 0:10:57.720 --> 0:10:59.560 I got to relocate it. And this is a big 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:03.439 mountain range I'm in and uh, I'm not. I'm on foot, 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:06.080 you know. My truck's way out there. There's no roads, 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:11.160 there's no trails. It's a pretty rough terrain, so hopefully 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:13.199 i'll find it. It's shaped like a big M. It's 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.880 a big cave that looks just like a gigantic M, 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:18.080 and it's about as tall as I am and kind 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:21.160 of narrow, and it's stuck on the side of a mountain. 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:24.080 So I hope I can find it again. And if 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:26.199 if I do, I'm I'm going in there. I'm gonna 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:28.840 put on my light and take my gun out and 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:32.679 walk in there. See if I find anything, we'll see. Okay, 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:36.920 that's Kenny and I. I just would encourage. I know 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.240 a lot of people listen on their commutes or whatever, 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:41.680 but if you have the ability to go out and 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:45.040 watch the video, any of these videos, or even just 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:48.120 parts of it, I mean, I know where I presume 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:51.320 we're going to post those links on our website. Things 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:54.600 said was podcast dot com um. But I mean, like, 0:11:55.840 --> 0:12:01.280 he's not just using a cell phone camera, and he's not. 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:03.760 It's an old school camera. I think he is used 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:07.520 as an old school handheld like cam. Well, I don't 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:10.720 think it's on a tripod, but a I don't think 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:13.400 it's one of those enormous ones that had a VHS tape. 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:15.480 I don't think so either. But it's not just a 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:18.160 handheld camera because at the very end of that video, 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:24.200 he zooms into the antelope or bighorn sheep and then 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:26.480 he zooms back out and you're like, oh, Mike, it's 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:33.199 got a great camera. Yeah, but it's not. It's not 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:36.880 necessarily like a go pro just strapped his head, which 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:42.000 you would kind of you would now definitely an iPhone. 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.080 It wasn't or it wasn't an iPhone on a selfie 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:48.920 stick as some of the cameras that yah. Yeah, let's 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:51.160 say it's a decent quality one like that zooming in 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:53.839 on the on the sheep was that was pretty good. 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:57.000 It was a really good It's got actual glass lens 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:59.480 and to be able to do that that's not digital 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:02.439 mag Yeah. And this is two thousand fourteen, so it's 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:05.120 four years ago. And that's funny too. You know this 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:09.000 this the YouTube video got more than well over ten 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:13.080 thousand comments. I I read hundreds and hundreds maybe maybe 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:14.760 a few thousand of them. And I don't know, but 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:17.280 at the time of this reporting, all the way through, 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:19.360 at the time of this recording, it was over eight 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:24.160 hundred thousand views. Yeah, yeah, to a million views maybe 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:28.319 talking about comments of the common comments huge yeah, and 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:31.440 uh but but as you know, there's that one point 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:33.120 it's kind of near the end where he he spots 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.319 the big horn sheep way up in the cliffs and 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.760 he zoom was real real close in and tight, and 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:41.520 then the sheep sort of looks at him because he's talking, 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.640 so the sheep probably hears him and she looks at him, 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:46.679 and Kenny actually says, oh, he's looking at us. I 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:48.880 think he must hear me talking. And then there's at 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:50.720 least at least a couple of guys in the comments. 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.520 It's so creepy when that sheep looks at him like that. 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:58.199 I think it's just it is very interesting though, because 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:01.400 you see he goes, oh, he's looking right at me. 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:03.640 I guess i'd him out, and he zooms out and 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.800 he like kind of keep like halfway through the zoom. 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.000 You're like, okay, well that's where Kenny's at, and then 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:13.520 it just keeps out and you're like, well, god, how 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:16.000 did he even see that? First of all? And then 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:18.040 how did he zoom in so well that it looked 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:21.080 like it was just as in focus as everything else, 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:26.840 but probably not that important to it very much feels 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:29.360 like though, you see these a lot of stuff flying 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:32.760 Adventure Time where it's oh, they pan back and the 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:36.880 pan just keeps going. Suddenly it's halfway across the universe. 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:41.160 Kind of like that's what it feels like, because it's 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:46.240 like a Google satellite situation. Yeah, Google Earth. Yeah, So 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:50.800 Kenny a sheep so did he have any other videos 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:53.840 on his Actually he did. He posted He posted several 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:56.200 other ones on the same day that he posted this one. 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:58.720 And there's one where he tries to sell his house, 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:00.720 and that one up like a month and a half before. 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:04.680 This one has a special twist. What is Kenny? What 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:09.040 is kenny twist? Okay, well, let's listen to Kenny's own words. Now, 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:14.800 this house is only approximately just just under four years old. Um, 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:18.760 it's beautiful in every way. It's perfect and clean, and 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:21.480 there's not a spot anywhere on any of the walls. 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:26.720 And I'm putting this house up for sell along with me, 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:31.160 I'm offering myself along with the house. So that's the niche, 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:34.120 that's the unusual thing right there. So by the time 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:37.880 this video is finished, you will know exactly what I'm offering, 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:42.520 what I'm talking about, and hopefully you'll have fun watching 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:45.760 the video and we'll see, you know, we'll see what happens. 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:50.520 Didn't he have a girlfriend? I'm not sure exactly how 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.000 it wasn't selling the house in him as some kind 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:57.200 of personal dirty slave. And he gets to he's your 0:15:57.320 --> 0:16:02.080 your maintenance guy, up keeping Maybe yeah, I think essentially 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:03.920 what he wanted to do was have somebody pay him 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:05.280 a bunch of money for the house, but he gets 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:09.480 to keep living there. We've done some stories about people 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:13.800 who have had that kind of situation before. I think, yeah, sorry, 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:18.600 just quickly, how many total videos did Kenny post on 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:21.920 this account? Not that many? Like five? I think it 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:24.120 was like five. There was the selling the house one, 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:25.760 the m K one, and there were were there were 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:28.440 three where he um, he was trying to he was 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:31.160 apparently trying to get on this TV show Shark Tank. Yeah, 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:33.360 and so he was promoting some showing out some of 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:37.280 his cool inventions, like he had an approved toilet paper holder, um, 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:40.880 and he had a glow in the Dark, the Glowler Bear, 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:44.160 the Clowe in the Dark, polar Bear figurine and yeah, 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:46.960 and all of they're like, all three of those are 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:54.120 really well titled to They're like, Shark take Submission, super cool. Unique. 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:57.560 You've watched the glower Bear, right, No, that was the 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:01.760 only one. I watched that one. Oh my good god. 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:06.040 I couldn't resist watching the gloler Bear. And he has 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:09.920 some brass to him because it is he took it. 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:13.080 I took this tin, but I found and he put 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:17.359 a loan the dark sticker letters on it and snowflake stickers, 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:23.720 and then he hands sowed this terrible polar bear. He's like, 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:26.600 this is my hand pattern that I drew, and it's 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:29.760 just this like weird, sketchy thing. And then eventually at 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:32.120 the end of the video he shows it up close 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:35.600 and it looks nothing like a polar bear. It's so craezy. 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:41.480 It's not a polar bear. It's bearing about Penny. And 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:43.600 I think we'll kind of get that as we get 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:46.600 on with the story. Is that like he was a 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:50.960 ballsy dude. It was. It was he was, and well 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:54.320 he at least he really wanted to represent himself as 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:58.480 a maverick cowboy adventurer. I know, we kind of like, 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:00.600 I don't know where in your script this is, but 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:03.800 when he would go out on these tracks, he would 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:06.879 like deprive himself. Oh yeah, for sure. He would do 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:09.840 would take very little water and almost no food, and 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:14.840 he's like twelve mile ten hour hikes over rough country. 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:17.080 And I think that was kind of like part of 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:20.520 his persona was the kind of like tough guy cowboy 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:24.320 I can and crazy, crazy brave, you know, one want 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:26.640 to take chances and speaking of which there's another video 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:28.960 I think that was posted by his well now ex 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:33.399 girlfriend of Kenny playing with a rattlesnake. You know, you 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:36.440 guys have both seen that. I'm that's how that's is 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:39.920 that how he gave him himself as YouTube handle, that's 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:42.440 how he got his name. Apparently it's been bit a 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:45.600 couple of times by rattlesnakes because well that's what happens 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:47.960 when you mess with him. Yeah, okay, so they will 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:50.960 bite you. And the thing that's like painful is I 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:55.920 really really like snakes. My significant other and like everybody 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:59.640 else in my life beside I am super pro snakes 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:02.160 and how many snakes in my life and pants and whatever, 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:05.280 and so it's it's kind of frustrated the videos like 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:07.280 this where it's just like it's kind of man haling 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:09.480 a snake. It is. And then when he decided to 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:14.320 put the snake, he doesn't the worst. Yeah, well he 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:16.040 did in a way that I I don't know if 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:17.639 he thought it'd be safer that way, but it was 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:20.280 really what he does is I would have just taken 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:21.879 it and sort of like just chucked at a few 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:27.320 feet away. Yeah, I wouldn't the proper the proper way 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:29.760 to release his sneak is you hold it by the 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:33.600 tail because they can't coil all the way back with themselves. 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:35.480 And then there's a little bit of a you know, 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:37.760 a wiggle shake, so they straighten out. And then they 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:39.960 when you set them down, and you set them down 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:42.600 head first and then let the rest of the body go, 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:45.760 and they immediately go forward. They might turn and coil 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:48.000 and get ready to strike back, but you're already too 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:50.720 far away. And that is not what he does. But 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:53.360 you know, what he does is he walks over far 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:55.480 far away and then throws it up into this tree. 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:59.080 But he doesn't actually get it to the tree. But 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:03.639 also Radolson don't know. They don't, you know, and he pitches, 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:05.960 he throws it up in the tree, and uh, the 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:08.800 poor snake bounces off some branches and then falls and 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:10.920 it bounces off some more branches and eventually hits the 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:13.280 ground with a It's like, I felt kind of bad 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:16.399 for the snake. He's like, oh, I wonder if for 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:23.639 off gonna hurt you. But that's like I just you know, 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:26.359 it was unkind. But also and I don't think I 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:28.840 don't think Kenny was a cruel guy. I think. I 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:34.040 just think the thing about it too is that is 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:36.159 that if he tossed it up and it hit a 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:39.000 particularly springy branch and bounced off the tree and back 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:42.399 on the very well could have happened. So it was 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:46.120 just so Kenny. It sounded me like a fun, great guy, 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:49.520 a lot of energy, but sometimes occasionally lacking a little 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:54.280 bit of judgment. And yeah, and uh, I think as 0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:56.200 he's already sort of touched on it could be said 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:59.280 he marched to his own drummer, and he uh, he 0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:01.600 wanted to do something bigger, you know, than what he 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:03.560 was doing. He had had a job for years and 0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:06.440 he quit. Most of us, Yeah, and he quit his 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:10.240 job about mid apparently, and he was just looking around 0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:12.080 for some new big thing. He wanted to do something, 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:15.480 something creative that he could make a living, but without 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:18.560 having a bunch of clocks like most of us. A 0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:21.080 lot of us want that. And he hadn't found that 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:24.320 things weren't working out for him. Okay, obviously he was trying. 0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:28.080 We've had all those those shark tank things that weren't 0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:30.800 really getting them anywhere. Did you did you watch all 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:33.200 of the shark tank things? No? No, not all of them, 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:35.240 just some excerpts in the fields. They were all bad. 0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:38.960 They were they were none of them. Yeah. Good. There's 0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:43.560 a reason that they just sat on this unattended YouTube. Yes, yeah, 0:21:43.760 --> 0:21:47.480 because they were what did he had the redneck whistle? 0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:50.879 The redneck whistle? He had a weird knife thing to 0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:53.359 ry Well yeah, well, the well, there was the spinning thing, 0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:56.040 but the redneck whistle is my favorite because it was 0:21:56.240 --> 0:22:00.240 literally a stick with a hole that he had old 0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:04.920