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Speaker 1: Coming up. Keep your positive, sweetie. Sometimes your heart will

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Speaker 1: do it anyway. And so I got up seven days

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Speaker 2: Your calling my name, you know, And so I got up.

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Speaker 1: And the first thing I said, is, seven days ago,

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Speaker 3: Hi, I'm Christopher Nae Hazel, and this is keep it positive, sweetie,

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Speaker 3: a safe space to heal, laugh, grow and love. I

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Speaker 3: can't wait to ring today's guest to the couch. Her

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Speaker 3: musical ministry has definitely brought me through. I'm talking about

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Speaker 3: the Goddess of Gospel, Tasha Cobb's Leonard with the voice

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Speaker 3: that carries the essence of praise and worship. A musical

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Speaker 3: ministry that has blessed millions around the world. Tasha Cobb's

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Speaker 3: Leonard is one of gospel's most grounded torch bearers. In

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Speaker 3: recent years, she's child with the world, carry her gift

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Speaker 3: of song and surrender with her.

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Speaker 1: These days she's on in Optururse.

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Speaker 3: Stages, managing a ministry with her husband, mother and her children,

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Speaker 3: and enjoying the release of her new devotional Do It Anyway.

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Speaker 3: And in the midst of all that, guys, we got

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Speaker 1: Tasha, thank you so much for coming.

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Speaker 3: Seriously, nowther heirs of all you came in here, you

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Speaker 3: got the caulswife in Gorswain.

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Speaker 1: What made you even decide to cut it off? Who

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Speaker 3: That's such a It can be a spirituals regular you

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Speaker 1: Yes, what made you chop your hair off? I love it,

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Speaker 3: But I love how I can see your beautiful face.

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Speaker 1: So the devotional is actually the second portion, i'll say,

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Speaker 1: started just showing me through tomlines that hey, I showed you, Yes,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have a beautiful baby boy.

435
00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,040
Speaker 2: He gonna look just like you, just like you.

436
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Speaker 1: But I never went saying that it would be the

437
00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 1: traditional way, went about trying to feel god fulfill God's

438
00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,240
Speaker 1: will your way, and that never works, you know, And

439
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,760
Speaker 1: so we had to go back now and say, well,

440
00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,800
Speaker 1: what is your way? Where is your way? We know

441
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,840
Speaker 1: your will and that excites us, you know.

442
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,000
Speaker 2: Something that will excite you.

443
00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,600
Speaker 1: You're gonna have a magic, gonna be a millionaire. But

444
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,680
Speaker 1: the process of it is the part that's grueling.

445
00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:19,879
Speaker 2: You know.

446
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 1: And so then.

447
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:27,080
Speaker 2: Shine there we shine, you know.

448
00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 1: And I believe that so many of us we hear

449
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,000
Speaker 1: you could hear the prophecy, even when we're younger people

450
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 1: speaking over your life. I remember my mind would say,

451
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,400
Speaker 1: I see your name and rights. You know, we love

452
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Speaker 1: that they all about that we lost sas to get

453
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Speaker 1: today his way. His way is we don't know it

454
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,920
Speaker 1: always comfortable and sometimes it's foggy you can't see it,

455
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 1: and so for us God's way. I remember my husband

456
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 1: came to me and probably about five or six months

457
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Speaker 1: after we lost the baby and I had gone through

458
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Speaker 1: just oh, it was very childing. Was a dark space

459
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 1: for me and I literally had to record an album

460
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 1: in the middle of that. So I remember going to

461
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 1: Nashville three days after we found out we lost the baby,

462
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm not going to know rehearsals.

463
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Speaker 1: If this is gonna be, if you want me to

464
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Speaker 1: do this, you're gonna make this happen, so you know,

465
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Speaker 1: just you know, we can get sometimes like.

466
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Speaker 2: You died, you know what they know I'm on said,

467
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Speaker 2: so you do your wheel your way.

468
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Speaker 1: I went and I was like, I'm not gonna go

469
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Speaker 1: to rehearsal. I'm not gonna do anything. But I ended

470
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Speaker 1: up going to one of the rehearsals and they were

471
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Speaker 1: doing a song that's on that album and says you're

472
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Speaker 1: gonna get the glory out of this. It was a

473
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Speaker 1: song that I wrote before ever really getting into this

474
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Speaker 1: losing the baby. It was during the IVF. I know

475
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 1: you're gonna get the glory out of this, and they

476
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 1: started singing that song and literally everything I was feeling,

477
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 1: the walls came down, It started to break, and my

478
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 1: team didn't know what we were going through, but they

479
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: felt us, so they immediately just started praying for my

480
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 1: husband and I and I remember after going through that recording,

481
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: you go back Now, the name of the album is Royalty,

482
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Speaker 1: So going into it, I'm thinking, I'm singing about We're

483
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 1: the Royal priestthood, I'm all excited. Downs on the photo shooting,

484
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 1: God was writing, no, no, no, I'm gonna show you

485
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Speaker 1: what Royalty really is and what it really means to

486
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Speaker 1: be to be my child. And so through that season

487
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 1: I had to to really live out. There's a song

488
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 1: on that album called you Never Gave Up, Like it

489
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 1: felt like the walls were closing it. Yeah, I'm writing

490
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 1: all of these songs before that season, not knowing that

491
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Speaker 1: these songs were gonna usher me through that season. You know,

492
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 1: I'm thinking I'm writing for everybody, anybody going through depression,

493
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 1: anybody going through anxiety. But it was really really for me,

494
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Speaker 1: and so when we got back home, my husband was like,

495
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Speaker 1: maybe what do you think about adoption? And I didn't

496
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Speaker 1: hear just my husband. I heard him speaking to me,

497
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,959
Speaker 1: this is Guy's way, you know, and so we went

498
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Speaker 1: through that process and it was miraculous. So my answer

499
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: would be everybody's journey is different, and you can I

500
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: can sit here and say do it my way, or

501
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: you know, your friends can say do it their way.

502
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: But ultimately I would say do it God's way. Yeah,

503
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: and you are knowing it's his way because it feels right,

504
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: you know, like, man, this is me, yeah, exactly.

505
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 3: And it's funny you say that because when you say

506
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 3: that your your test was your faith was truly tested.

507
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 3: I find myself now be in a position when she

508
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 3: told me it's too late for all that. Now it's like, okay,

509
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 3: you really got to activate this faith that you in

510
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 3: a different position because I've had faith in my career.

511
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 3: I've had faith in how to for God to leave

512
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 3: relationships and to guid you through life. But this is

513
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Speaker 3: something totally different.

514
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Speaker 1: You know, and have faith for the things you can't see, Yes,

515
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 1: Like I can see that this relationship ain't right, so

516
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: I can see let me go and get out of

517
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 1: his you know, I can see where my career is

518
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 1: going and I can't see where it is. Maybe yes,

519
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: it's different.

520
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I find myself sitting in just quiet spaces,

521
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Speaker 3: praying and talk and to God to like just lead

522
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 3: me through this.

523
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 1: Don't let it like take because sometimes it can overtake

524
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Speaker 1: your mind.

525
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Speaker 2: I know.

526
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Speaker 3: For like when I turned thirty five, everything was just

527
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 3: like going, I'm trying to lightning speed carell. I'm just

528
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 3: like and then you get to like forty and like, wait,

529
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 3: I'm here already, and then it's like, oh, yeah, it's

530
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 3: too late, and you're like, wait what But I know

531
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Speaker 3: the God I said, it's never So I did La

532
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Speaker 3: Terrs Whitfield's podcast Differature Wifey And you'd ask about that,

533
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 3: and I'll say.

534
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Speaker 2: I feel every day love him.

535
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: I say, you know, bro, I feel like.

536
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Speaker 3: I'm in a space now where if it's meant to be,

537
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 3: God allowed to happen the way he wants it to happen,

538
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Speaker 3: in his.

539
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Speaker 2: Will, not my way. Is I know.

540
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'd be like, all right, Lord, we're gonna

541
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 3: figure this thing out. But definitely faith is super activated

542
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 3: right now.

543
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. So I sure, yes, I got

544
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Speaker 1: to talk about my us when he was like all

545
00:24:54,520 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: of them, you know what? So we mentioned the blended family. Yes,

546
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: And for me, it was such a growing up experience

547
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: because you're thinking, I'm gonna go in and this is

548
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: the role I play, this is the parent that I am.

549
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 1: I'm a disciplinary this is what I bring to the table,

550
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: and it was so much different. My children have taught

551
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: me so much about life, so much about myself. I've

552
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: had to grow up to become the mother or stepmom

553
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 1: that they need, you know what I'm saying, just to

554
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: fill in those gaps and to be able to do

555
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: it with their mom and with my husband, you know.

556
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: And it wasn't always that way. You have to grow

557
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: into that. I will never forget our two youngest before Asher,

558
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: their mom called me one day and she was like,

559
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: you know, I was just watching this podcast with Jada

560
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: Pinkett Smith and Will Smith's oldest son's mom and she

561
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 1: was like she said something that literally just shook me

562
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: to the core that I love you the way that

563
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 1: I love you because I saw the way that you

564
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: love my children. And she told me, she said, Tasha,

565
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: I can't help but love you when I see the

566
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: way that you love my babies. And from that moment,

567
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: all of the anything that was a source of tension.

568
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: We go into it looking like, hey, this is about

569
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: these kids. Yeah, and so we put ourselves to the

570
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: side and it has just been such a beautiful experience.

571
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: I love it. So my oldest is twenty one, twenty two, yes,

572
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: twenty two now she is she just graduated fair Estate okay,

573
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: and Charlotte she got a job and everything.

574
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: Look at God right. Yeah.

575
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: So our middle son he is at North Carolina A

576
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: and T. So he's a freshman there now. And we

577
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Speaker 1: have Symphony, who is our thirteen year old. So that's

578
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: the one to try you. Yeah, that's today. And then

579
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 1: do I actual who really tried you? Like it's three

580
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: year old? Like what is wrong with the odors? No,

581
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: my lady is three, and I'm like.

582
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Speaker 3: Doug adults, yeah, ball, that has so going on, Like.

583
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: People warn you about two, but they don't really want

584
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: you about three. It is good because they can talk.

585
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: Now and it's back. Oh yeah, what do you want?

586
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,479
Speaker 1: Where's my little baby? I ask him that all the time.

587
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: It's my little tiny baby. He's like, big boy, that's right. Yeah.

588
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: The fact Asher is our baby. All love Y'all's little

589
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: shoots y'all did It's Sunday Shoots with Asher was the

590
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 1: time he's a drummer. So Asher plays a drum and

591
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: it wasn't burst on him like Asher picked up drumsticks

592
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: probably at about three months old. Wow. And I posted

593
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: a video the other day of him like playing playing

594
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: people was like, oh this this used to be like you,

595
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: but now it's a.

596
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 2: Real baby play.

597
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: That's incredible. All right, son? Is he gonna be playing

598
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: for the church? You know, we try to. I took

599
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: Sunday because he stares at our drummer the entire service.

600
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he's locked Undy in him.

601
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

602
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: So while he was staring at him because Asher wants

603
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: us to carry him so he can see the drums,

604
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: he can't see what people standing. Yeah, he's fifty pounds,

605
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: Like I can't hold you the whole Yeah. So I

606
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: stowed him up on the stage and I was like,

607
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: just go over there. He was saying, no, not big enough,

608
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: like oh yeah, her hands that I'm just not big enough.

609
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, one day I'm gonna be able there.

610
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: It's so key.

611
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 2: I love that.

612
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: That is beautiful and I love that your husband's ex.

613
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 3: I was able to like because a lot of people

614
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 3: are not that blessed to have somebody mature enough to say,

615
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 3: I love the way you love my children, So.

616
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: I love you for that.

617
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 3: And to be able to get along, yeah, because it

618
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 3: doesn't have to be. People move on, life goes on,

619
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 3: but we can all get along.

620
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: And I see the comments y'all like there's oh something

621
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: like that, and they're like, that's y'all. They don't never

622
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: do anything.

623
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: And I think you have to.

624
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: You have to grow to that. Dam. I will deny

625
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: myself for the sake of peace for these children abs

626
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: you know, and whatever that means, because oh you know,

627
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: she she trifle and he trifling. It is never gonna happen,

628
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: you know, that part you have to leave into a

629
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: place of prayer. But growing up the mature rate, that

630
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: putting the past behind us. But the only person you

631
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: can really work on is yourself. And you gotta find

632
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: out where have I've been the problem? Yeah, you know,

633
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: you gotta really be honest with yourself because it's we

634
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: gotta be honest, y'all.

635
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it ain't always that. Everybody is not. No, it

636
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: is not.

637
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: That is real.

638
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: That is real.

639
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: You have been very vocal, even.

640
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 3: Through your music about depression and mental health? Where do

641
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 3: you stand now? And how important? Because I know now

642
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 3: everybody's talking about it, but you've actually spoke about your

643
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 3: and a lot of times Christians don't speak about it.

644
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 3: So I love that when you sing about to say depression.

645
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 3: You on one of my every c these albums, you

646
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 3: took them in the wall go ahead, and you talked

647
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 3: about your cousin saying with you and how she loves you,

648
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 3: like she said, Tash, I can read is no more

649
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 3: and you felt rejected, but God was like no, like this,

650
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 3: you gotta work on this. What what steps did you

651
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 3: take to get to where you are now? Because the

652
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Speaker 3: Tasha see now like you look.

653
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Speaker 2: Like you do work, you know what?

654
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: And it's I am an advocate for therapy. All of

655
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: us need to get a therapist, you know. And even

656
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: if it's not every single day or every single week,

657
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: or even if it's in seasons, there are some seasons

658
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: where I'm like, Okay, I feel myself getting a little heavy.

659
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm trying to carry too much. Let me get

660
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: on the phone, let me call it go away, you know.

661
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: You know. So I feel like all of us.

662
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: Need a space where we can release, you know, that

663
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: the tensions of life, just life in general. To talk

664
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Speaker 1: these things out. I believe there's a story in scripture

665
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: that talks about two sisters, Mary and Martha, and Jesus

666
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: stops by the Bible says Martha's house. I don't think

667
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: we often put enough focus on that. Jesus stops by

668
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: Martha's house, and when he enters the house, Martha goes

669
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: back to working and cooking and preparing for him. But

670
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: Mary sits at his feet and she worships. I think

671
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: a lot of times what we find in the Christian

672
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: arena in the Kingdom is that we can work so

673
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: much that we fail to take care of ourselves mentally.

674
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: I believe that what Mary was doing was getting a

675
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: mental break, a space in the presence of God where

676
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: I'm seeing for myself, I'm singing about myself instead. Martha

677
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: was like a lot of us, No, I gotta get

678
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: this done. I gotta get up and preach every week,

679
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: I gotta go to work every day. I gotta make

680
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: sure that I'm encouraging people like you were saying, I

681
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: gotta make sure I'm inspiring everybody who was taking time

682
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: to take care of you. And I feel like we

683
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: can compare ourselves sometimes to those two characters in scripture.

684
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: Am I gonna be the one who's work work, work,

685
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: worth working and never sitting down to take care of

686
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: myself and sitting at the field even if some of

687
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: us do work in church, You ain't got to be

688
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: the one I'm singing every Sunday, sit down and receive.

689
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: You one have to be the one up at the

690
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: door usherman everywhere. Sit down and receive. Do something where

691
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: you're filling yourself up again so that you have what

692
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: it takes to go out and pour more So, I

693
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: found that space for me, and it wasn't always me.

694
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: I was the person who was always living in next

695
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: like I could be there are times like even with

696
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: that grammy, I don't really remember it. And then it

697
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: wasn't so much just grief. It was just because I

698
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: was a worcoholic. I could be like, did y'all answer

699
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: that email?

700
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 3: You know?

701
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: Where are we going next week?

702
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: If they know that street?

703
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: Right? You know?

704
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: After this, Empazze was like you gotta get rip like this.

705
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: It's so many things, celebrate them now, you know.

706
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: It's celebrate that I.

707
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: Want you to find. Sometimes in scriptures, when they would

708
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: experience major successes that they would build an altar. It

709
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: would take a moment and establish something so that when

710
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: I'm facing something hard in life in the next five

711
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: ten years, I can look back to two thousand and

712
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: four and see what God did and the same God

713
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: that did it back then is going to do it again.

714
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: So stop and build an altar. Celebrate those moments. And

715
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: one of the things that my therapists would tell me

716
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: to do I still do to this day. And she

717
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: told me, make those people who are closest to you,

718
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: make them make you be present.

719
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 3: And I was like, how do I do that?

720
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: And she said, so for me, I have authoritis in

721
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: my toes. I know my sneaker game tight, but you

722
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: know I have authoritis in both of my toes. I

723
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: used to play basketball. I broke my toe. Whole long story.

724
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: So I was like, if I got to wear sneakers,

725
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: I got to be the best at it. Yes, So

726
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: I started studying the culture all of that. So we

727
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: own a sneaker store.

728
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: All this came, yes, correct.

729
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: It started from me having a broke told authritis, you

730
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: know sometimes you gotta make limonade how to do limits.

731
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: So she would say to me, She said, make them

732
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: ask you questions like how do your toes feel right now?

733
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: Do you have a headache right now? They make they

734
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: make me be present in the moment. My husband will

735
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: stop sometimes and he'll grab my shoulders and he'll say,

736
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: do you have a headache right now? You know what

737
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: does this moment feel like? You're just on Crystal's podcasts?

738
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: How do you feel? You know? So those just man

739
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: little things to make me be present. I'm still work,

740
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: I still work a lot, but now I think I've

741
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: matured to the place where take care of Tasha first

742
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: and all of these things. You know, sometimes success can

743
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: be fleeting. It can be here today, gone on tomorrow.

744
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: Have you taken care of yourself? Am I am? I

745
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: strong enough mentally that if it's gone tomorrow, said, it

746
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: won't break me down. Yeah, I won't die in that

747
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: season exactly. That's just where I am now. I love

748
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: that you just helped me because I know my team

749
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: back there. Like you for saying that. I know that

750
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: I want to be sitting in a war showing about you.

751
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 1: Where we're going to my arm show?

752
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: Yeah that is me. I'm always like I don't know.

753
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 3: I think also because I had the example of like

754
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 3: a Tyler Perry who like was there with us grinding

755
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: every time I looked at when I was tired, I

756
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: saw him behind that monitor. Like I never felt like

757
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 3: I was in it alone as the person who was pushing,

758
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 3: you know, the whole thing, and he was driving it.

759
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 2: But we were the ones.

760
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 3: We were working together. So I think the part is

761
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 3: like I never want any to feel like we're doing

762
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 3: all this and she just shows up, you.

763
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. But there is a part of

764
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 2: where you gotta like let people.

765
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 1: Do what they are what they do, you know, because

766
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: you also you're building the culture. So if they see

767
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: you doing it and then they're like, this is how

768
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: it is. I have to be this way in order

769
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 1: to be successful. My husband says, this thing that rest

770
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: is Trustsadarius. It's also our pastor. I don't know if

771
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: you know that. So Pastor Darius is our pastor. Yeah,

772
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: he teaches us that you know, trust God with with

773
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 1: one day out of your seven because God will allow

774
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: you to do more with six days than the average

775
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 1: person can do with seven. Your rest trust. I'm trying

776
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: to get this Saturday off on Saturdays, make it your Saturday.

777
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 2: I'm trying to do it this week because.

778
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 3: Some get you some no, but thank you for us Seriously.

779
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 3: I needed that because it is hard to find the

780
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 3: moment to just decompress and breathe.

781
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's important. It was ACTI don't thank you. I'll

782
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: tell everybody to make sure you rest. And then I'm like,

783
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: you ain't resting girls to the else somewhere, yees. Rest

784
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: is trust? It is.

785
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: I like that.

786
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna take away for this. I like, yeah, yes, this,

787
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: I gotta remember that rest is trust.

788
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 3: You have been an incredible merger between Gossaa and hip hop.

789
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 3: I love the songs you don't you work with Nicki

790
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 3: Minaj and that was like even when I saw, I

791
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 3: was like, that's fire and I love. I was like,

792
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 3: I love that she's taking these risks. What made you say,

793
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 3: you know what, like these are people I want to

794
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 3: work with it and I'm gonna do it no matter

795
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 3: what because you know you'll get backlash for certain things.

796
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 3: But what made you say I'm gonna do it anyway.

797
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it anyway.

798
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: And I love this conversation. I think it's it's great

799
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: because I've been hearing you talk a lot about the

800
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: season that you're in. How people the comments about you

801
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: representing Christ and representing the kingdom. You know, each of

802
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: us we are. The Bible talks about walking out your

803
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: own soul salvation. You know, how is God instructing you

804
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: to represent Him in the earth. And it may not

805
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: be the way. You know, such and such was called

806
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 1: to do it, or those who went before me were

807
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: called to do it, Like I love Yolanda. Yolanda goals

808
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: on different platforms that you don't see a lot of

809
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: gospel artists on. But even her walk is different than mine,

810
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: you know. And so there are some areas where you

811
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: have these people where you can you can say, Okay,

812
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: that person mentors me. My life a little bit looks

813
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 1: like theirs. But then there are some doors that God

814
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: opens for you that's just for you. It's like, hey,

815
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: I want you to represent me this way, and that's

816
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: what that has been for me. And you see a

817
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: lot of different collaborations now, like Kirk does a lot

818
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: of Chandler has done collaborations. But in the season where

819
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: I I did this song with Niki I'm getting Ready

820
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: on my album and it just wasn't very very popular.

821
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: You know, we had done I had done a song

822
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: with Common before. But then you you go to somebody

823
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: like Nicki Minaj and people think she represents one thing.

824
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: You don't really know ho these people, you know a

825
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: lot of times it's it's it's it's career, it's the success.

826
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: It's sometimes it's just character. You think it. We're not

827
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: judging you based those team.

828
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: Be a live it don't get it's a character that.

829
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: You put on. It's your job. And so I want

830
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: I got to know Niki, yes, And then knowing Nikki,

831
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: Nicki has relationship with God and she cares that other

832
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: people do too. It's a means that she's without flaw. No,

833
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: but most of us are. You know what I'm saying.

834
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 1: So who am I to say that? She called me

835
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: and she said, you know this, want this. I want

836
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: this album to be the first one where I put

837
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: my relationship with God on display. And who am I

838
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: to say? You can't do that?

839
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 3: You know?

840
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: And so after hearing God and praying about it, if

841
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: God says yes, then I'm gonna go with what he says.

842
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 1: And yeah, we got backlashed. The comments were crazy. I

843
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: sold out, you know all this kind of stuff irritable,

844
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: you know, But when you hear God say for you

845
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 1: to do something, stick to it and do what he says.

846
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 1: Because some of those same people, now it's years later,

847
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: have come back there in my DM saying I judged

848
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 1: you when that happened, but now I have a greater

849
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: understanding you now I see. Yeah, So there are people

850
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: who have come to me and repenting, you know, for

851
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: what they did or what they said. And even if

852
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: they don't, you know, I'm sure that this was God's

853
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: will for me.

854
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: Even the song.

855
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: So we did another one moves on her last album,

856
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: and that even that moment, so we were in the studio.

857
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: I went to La to do that one in the

858
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: studio with her, and we just had a moment where

859
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: it was like, hey, we don't want to just leave

860
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: it up to chance that people understand who we're talking about.

861
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 1: So Nikki said to me, I want you to say

862
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: the name Jesus.

863
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

864
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: A lot of people may think this is no, it's

865
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: going both ways, and there's a relationship there and it

866
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: doesn't matter how people may judge me or what it

867
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: thinks about it, because I know for sure that this

868
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Speaker 1: is something that God has called me, so you have

869
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Speaker 1: to just stand firm moment a miss of like the backlash,

870
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Speaker 1: how did you handle it?

871
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 3: Because for me and you heard me be vocal about it,

872
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 3: there's sounds Wh'm like, I ain't about to say nothing else,

873
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 3: like I'm good, Like how do you handle it in

874
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 3: the middle of because hindsight, you're like, I said yes

875
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 3: to what God told me to do and people have

876
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 3: something to say, But like, what do you feel in

877
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Speaker 3: those moments?

878
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's painful, you know a lot of

879
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: and we're human, so you can get a million comments

880
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: that are like, go, girl, you did it. You're killing me,

881
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: and yeah, you know that.

882
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: It's like, why said you?

883
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: Just be like everybody over here? You know, I've learned

884
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: that blocking in a ministry. Baby know I love the ball.

885
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: Well I respond, I'm gonna give you grace it just

886
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 1: lock you. You know, there have been seasons where I responded,

887
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: but even during that time I may have responded, like

888
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: once I think I posted something and then after that

889
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: I just didn't feel right. I felt like, Okay, let

890
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: me just let this breathe and whatever happens happens. Because

891
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: I know that Ultimately, vengeance is the Lord's you know,

892
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: and it comes. It requires a lot. Right now with

893
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: my husband and I've been studying Proverbs, just talking about wisdom.

894
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: It's crazy, man, their first three chapters of Proverbs. Man,

895
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: it will bless you so right now, I think what

896
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Speaker 1: being able to not respond requires wisdom, that it requires

897
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 1: you to say, you know, this ain't about me anyway,

898
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's ultimately maybe the person who's commenting,

899
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Speaker 1: maybe they don't have a great understanding, maybe they don't

900
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Speaker 1: have a revelation of what you're called to do. And

901
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't. I can't prove this to everybody

902
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: in the world. You'll be You'll be commenting all day,

903
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: you resigned out when it's somebody else is gonna come back,

904
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 1: and before you know that, you you're overwhelmed in this

905
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: space and it's like, I'm not even gonna take myself there. Ultimately,

906
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: I know that I'm doing the will of God for

907
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: my life, and that's all that matters. That's all.

908
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Speaker 3: I love it because some days I have time, some

909
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 3: days I have time, and like my friends are like Crystal,

910
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 3: who's around you tell them to take your phone.

911
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 2: I'm living your phone to somebody and.

912
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Speaker 1: I'm like, like, my dog, here's am me and say,

913
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Speaker 1: now we know you're not gonna respond, do you release

914
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: us to respond?

915
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

916
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: It was so funny. It is my fans w I

917
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Speaker 1: tell you.

918
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Speaker 3: I realized I don't have the same thing because they

919
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 3: ride for me so hard, so things I really want

920
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 3: to say, Yeah, I love you, let them know.

921
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: Yeah it's talking about it was good.

922
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 3: I could just see that because yeah, I'm like, yes,

923
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 3: that's exactly what one to say, but I can't see.

924
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I love the black bread. It's my favorite. Yeah,

925
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 1: it's my ass favorite. It's a blessing.

926
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Speaker 2: It is, it really is.

927
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 3: It is when we talk about blessings, do you find

928
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 3: that there's a burden and a blessing that comes with

929
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 3: being in the ministry, Because sometimes people feel that there's

930
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Speaker 3: a weight that comes.

931
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Speaker 1: Along with carrying this this car because you're literally calling

932
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Speaker 1: across Yeah. Yeah, and I think it's a day every day.

933
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Speaker 1: It's an intentional choice, like I choose to carry the

934
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Speaker 1: weight that comes with it. One of my good friends

935
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Speaker 1: his name iss why Younger, and he is talking to

936
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Speaker 1: us the other other week and he said, we love

937
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Speaker 1: to talk about the cost that Jesus carried. But I

938
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Speaker 1: think we live in a generation now of Christians who

939
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Speaker 1: are crossless Christians or we don't want to carry our cross.

940
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Speaker 1: And I was like, you know, because the cost is heavy.

941
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: It is so there is a burden that comes with

942
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 1: representing Christ, especially outside of the four walls of the church.

943
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: Like I applaud, I applaud people like you who know,

944
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: I'm not standing on a stage preaching. I'm not you know,

945
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: I'm not Sarah, I'm not Priscilla Shire. But I am

946
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: Crystal and I'm doing it now. I got to do

947
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: it through TV and film. That is it's a weight,

948
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Speaker 1: it is, you know, to represent him in that way,

949
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: but to see the benefits of it, to see so

950
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Speaker 1: many people now who say, maybe I'm not like Tasha

951
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Speaker 1: and I'm not like Sarah, but I see myself in Crystal,

952
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Speaker 1: that I have all of these gifts that may not

953
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Speaker 1: be used so much in the church, but they're used

954
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: outside of the four walls of the church. And many

955
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 1: times that's that's where you would find Jesus. Yeah, because

956
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: we are in church, was walking up the street, little say,

957
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 1: he was hosting conferences about ownership and so that that's

958
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: the kind of God that we serve. That Hey, I

959
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: do want you to for sake, not to assemble together

960
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: at your weekly gatherings, but I want you to take

961
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 1: that out now and represent me. And that's not always

962
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Speaker 1: going to be easy. There's the weight that comes with it,

963
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: but I am I am honored to carry. You know,

964
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Speaker 1: if he could carry his cross and die for us

965
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Speaker 1: and do all the things that he did, certain me

966
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Speaker 1: I can carry the weight of of my little cross. Absolutely.

967
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Speaker 1: I love.

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Speaker 2: You, y'all.

969
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: You killing me. You represent the kingdom? Well, I don't

970
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: care what nobody says, ooh, you represent very well. Thank you,

971
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, because I do doubt that sometime

972
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: like God am I doing?

973
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Speaker 3: And even in this season, I found myself searching and

974
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 3: talking to him more, guide me in the way that

975
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Speaker 3: you want me to represent you, because I think it

976
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Speaker 3: was it may ha been Sarah or some something happened

977
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 3: during Women Evolved where someone said, we are living in

978
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 3: a time where the people that are unlikely would be

979
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 3: the ones that are raising up the kingdom and spreading

980
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 3: the word, and either people that you wouldn't even expect,

981
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 3: like wait, yeah, that's who he's using.

982
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: And I was saying.

983
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 3: I made a comment about how I noticed, like a

984
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 3: lot of like singers and different people, people in the

985
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 3: entertainment industry are publicly turning their life there the Christ.

986
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: And bringing the millions of follower guide and brought to them.

987
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: But it was for his word in the end. That's

988
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: one of the things that happened. Even with the songs

989
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: with Nikki, there was so many people who started following

990
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: me or bought my album who they would say to me,

991
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: I didn't believe in God I am when I heard

992
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 1: this song or this is the first gospel I've ever purchased.

993
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: That alone, I'm like, hey, you know, people, and I

994
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: get the testimonies to well, what about our girls and

995
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: what about our girls being exposed to this and exposed

996
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: to that. I believe that God will cover our children.

997
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: They will cover those who we are called to who

998
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: are in our churches and is, but we also have

999
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 1: to reach those who are not, you know, and how

1000
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 1: else do we do it besides collaborating people who represent

1001
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: Him outside of the for a while, so you know,

1002
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: I know that's what I'm called. Well that's the part

1003
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: of So thank you again for that. Thank you.

1004
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 3: I appreciate that is there anything that you can resten

1005
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 3: to you breaking on what's coming up?

1006
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 1: I want to know we are on the Good News Tour.

1007
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: I'm excited about the I'm out there with them, my.

1008
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: Kids, but they are I'm Auntie Tasha now so yeah,

1009
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: we're Maverick City and so we got tired. Todd Alvert,

1010
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: Naomi Rage Handler, Tim Godfrey is gonna be so uh,

1011
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna be incredible. I'm looking forward to tours always

1012
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: stretch you. So I'm looking forward to how I'm gonna

1013
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: grow as a person just out being out in different

1014
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: cities every night. I'm gonna know if people know that

1015
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: side of it. Yeah, it's also growing every night having

1016
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,439
Speaker 1: these encounters and having this experience in worship, and even

1017
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: having the conversations with different artists backstage and living with

1018
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: them for all of these months. We grow together. So

1019
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that.

1020
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 2: You got a content, you know, I'm there.

1021
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: I got wait.

1022
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I went to the last Kingdom till they did

1023
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 3: here in Atlanta, and I had to feel the next

1024
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 3: day I didn't have a voice.

1025
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 2: Baby, I always up there, you gotta call. I was like,

1026
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: I gotta be if, I gotta whisper your ways. So

1027
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: you do have the tour.

1028
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: I'm excited about that, and the books, the devotional and

1029
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: do it anyway I put it. I put my life

1030
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: in that. So it's your little wires and stories. Amazing.

1031
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: Even my childhood literally like watching how it was just

1032
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: a theme in our house. To get up and do

1033
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: it anyway, even though even if you don't feel like it.

1034
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: I believe it's going to be an encouragement to so

1035
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: many people. Oh love, I'm looking at the titles that

1036
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: you have discovered.

1037
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 3: Pursue it, read it heart. It's that's a girl, yes,

1038
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 3: question it created. I'm a creator, So I love that.

1039
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 3: All right, So it's a sixty this is amazing sixty day.

1040
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Speaker 1: Say mmmm yeah.

1041
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 3: I cannot wait to div say, seriously, I lost starting

1042
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 3: my day with devotionalists. I love, started with meditation and

1043
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 3: just really being still. So I'm going to add this

1044
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 3: to my morning routine. I cannot really no, thank you seriously,

1045
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 3: I love you and I'm so glad I got to

1046
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 3: share space with you.

1047
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: This has been incredible. Thank you so much. Yeah, and

1048
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: keep walking it. Thank you, thank you so much.

1049
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 3: Who guys, I had to admit Tasha Cobbs Lynnard left

1050
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 3: me with so much to think about and pray about,

1051
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 3: so much that it was actually kind of challenging to

1052
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 3: come up with a gym for the day.

1053
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: But if I had one takeaway, it would be that

1054
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: rest is trust. Guys. I'm such a workhorse.

1055
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 3: I love having my hands and everything cause I have

1056
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 3: so many things going on, but sometimes I just need

1057
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 3: to be still.

1058
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Speaker 1: So that is my takeaway and my gym for this week.

1059
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Speaker 3: Today's show was nothing short of amazing and I can't

1060
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 3: thank you guys enough for watching. You can follow me

1061
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 3: on all social media platforms at love christor Anda, and

1062
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 3: you can also follow the show and Keep it positive, Sweetie.

1063
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 3: If you wanna write into our Positive Outcomes listener letter,

1064
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 3: you can send us an email at Kedipositivesweetie at gmail

1065
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 3: dot com.

1066
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Speaker 1: In the meantime, in between time, y'all already know what

1067
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: to do. Keep it positive, sweety. I'll see you guys

1068
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Speaker 1: next time.