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Speaker 1: I was like, I have something to say. They're like,

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00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: go sit down, little back. We don't hear what you

426
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: have to say. I loved us and what happened to

427
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: him this season and how the fans treated him. Um,

428
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: it was sad to see, but it comes with the territory.

429
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: And while he acts like he goes out of his

430
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 1: way not to care, I feel like his feelings were

431
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: a big hurt. Of course, of course his feelings were hurt.

432
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 1: And I want to get back to something that you

433
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: said where it's like, if you're being ineffective, why wouldn't

434
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 1: you try something different now, Carrie, Because you know, I'm

435
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 1: a fan of yours and I've watched your career at

436
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: many different stages. You've worked on a lot of things. Okay,

437
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 1: but hold on, there have been times where it might

438
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: not have been working optimally and you sat around was like, well,

439
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: it ain't me. I'm great right. Not that you always

440
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: did that, but there might have been times where you

441
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 1: sat around and looked and said, hold on, I'm doing

442
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: as good as I can right now, and this isn't

443
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: working and it's probably everybody else's fault. That's what I

444
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: think rusty. Individual effort is different than team effort, and

445
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: that's what you're talking about as an individual. I am

446
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: gonna say I'm the ship. But if I'm a player

447
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 1: and I gotta rely on my teammates and they have

448
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: to trust me, I can't be like it ain't me.

449
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 1: How the hell are we gonna win? Ain't no Iron

450
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: team corny? Like I'm being corny right now, not you me?

451
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: But like, how are you not going to adjust? Are

452
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: you not watching the same tape I'm watching? You can't

453
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 1: blame everybody. When I want to win, I'm making sure

454
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: everybody else around me is winning. I don't surround myself

455
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: in life with people who aren't winning because I want

456
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 1: to win, right. So it's that same philosophy. People, And

457
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: here's the thing. We get paid to talk and who

458
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: knows you give? Say what you want about Lebron arguably

459
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: one of the most selfless superstars I have ever seen.

460
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: Some will say because he's scared to take the shot.

461
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 1: Some will say this, and Lebron is going to make

462
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 1: you better, whether you like him or not, whether he's

463
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 1: the worst teammate ever, he will make you better. He

464
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: will get you more money. Why don't you talk to

465
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: j R? Why don't you talk Tova oh Dova? For

466
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: five minutes, we thought Matthew Delavadova might be better than

467
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: Steph Curry, and he got Lebron got this, no name paid,

468
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: talked to Tristan, he got Tristan pay. Talked to um

469
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: gonna list some people he got paid? Who else? Williamson?

470
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 1: Who hoo hoo. Again we're saying who are they and

471
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 1: where are they now? My point is he always made

472
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: them better and always got them paid. Now. I don't

473
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: know what happens behind the scenes. I think a lot

474
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: of things, you know, there's a lot of politics, a

475
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 1: lot of things that are duplicit. If I'm not calling

476
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 1: him great, But what everybody can't be Kobe? And I

477
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: think a lot of what Russell thought he was because

478
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: we all love Kobe, especially growing up here in l A.

479
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: Because if you have twenty years of Kobe and you

480
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 1: grew up watching him for twenty years, Kobe narrated the

481
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: most important points of my young adulthood. In adulthood because

482
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: he was always winning and watching him win, everybody can't

483
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: beat Kobe. The Rick Fox had this best, the best,

484
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: best line. He said. We used to go up to

485
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 1: Kobe and say, pretend like you need us, Pretend like

486
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: you need us, because we want to feel like we

487
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: two are contributing. Especially when he had to go get

488
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: a chip without Shock, right, remember he's we got to check.

489
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 1: It was just him a palagosol, and he was like,

490
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it without Shock, and I'm gonna do

491
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: it twice without shot because yall thought Shock was the winner,

492
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: and a lot of people in l A wanted Shock

493
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 1: to be here and not Kobe. God blessed actor Bus

494
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: who saw a different vision. So then these people think

495
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: they can do that. It's the rare player that is,

496
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: the Kobe or the Jordan or the Lebron that can

497
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Speaker 1: do it, and Lebron can't. Even if we if we're

498
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: gonna go toe to toe, Lebron do it all, it's not.

499
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: But even when he wasn't forty, it's not. Even he's

500
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 1: always had help. Lebron always has had help. But no,

501
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: But this is the part that I think out of

502
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 1: fans don't understand about NBA players is that even if

503
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: you're Westbrook or your Kyle Kuzma, or you're Draymond Green

504
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 1: or your Steph Curry, your Lebron, every single one of

505
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: those guys is the son of their individual universe and

506
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: everything and say that every single one of those guys,

507
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: any NBA player of any uh significance, is the son

508
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: of his universe, and so everybody in his orbit around him.

509
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: Nobody's telling Russell Westbrook around him when he goes home

510
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: at night that he's the problem. That he blew a switch,

511
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: that he got he got hit with the screen and

512
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: completely died and gave up an open jump shot. Well,

513
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,719
Speaker 1: that's unfortunate, that's unfortunate. That's unfortunately because you and I,

514
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: both you and I both watched Jordan's doc. Right, he

515
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: knew what he needed to do, so he gave past

516
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: the pistons. If you can't self correct, how can you

517
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: be great? And that's for anybody in any career. I'm

518
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: not like, if you can't self correct, you can't be great.

519
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: And so that's what disappointed me with Russ because I

520
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: do feel like I agree with you. No one's telling

521
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,959
Speaker 1: him what he needs to do or he's not listening,

522
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: and then you start attacking the fans because they have

523
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: fans are attacking you. Yes, fans are out of control

524
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: and they've been out of control. I agree with him.

525
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: Fans should not be calling him names in word threatening family.

526
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: Fans are crazy, but you already know you want this smoke.

527
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: You gonna play for these teams or people expect something

528
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: from you. They're coming at you. So Lakers are, which

529
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: I would which I would have never said, because you know,

530
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: I try to be I'm completely biased, but I just

531
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: knew that I knew it was gonna be and I

532
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: talked to Lebron about it. I ran into him at

533
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: an event and he goes, well, I was trying to

534
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: get the more, you know, and then you know, I'm

535
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: like tomorrow. I was just like, stop it, stop it,

536
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: stop it, stop it. So I'm going to So everybody's

537
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: going to blame. And he was trying to get Tomorrow.

538
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: But let's let's just all blame Rob Polinka. Right, it's

539
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: all falling apart, and we all were starting to see

540
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: his true colors, right, And I don't want to and

541
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to all put all the blame on

542
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: Lebron because everybody's like, it's his fat is his fat

543
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: is his fault. But the Lakers, Rob, let me tell

544
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: you something, Rob Polinka, Kurt Rambis, something's going on and

545
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: and and they clearly are flailing at this and they're

546
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: gonna try to self correct, because that's what they do.

547
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: That's what greats do. We self correct, We want to

548
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: go Lebron, which I already knew that was gonna happen.

549
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: As I say, we so the years of bust and

550
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: it's so disappointing. How do you think Lebron feels where

551
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: he doesn't make it to the finals. I think Lebron

552
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: had that stretch where he was scoring like thirty five

553
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: a night is something I think he was trying to

554
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: signal to basically the NBA viewing public life. Look, it's

555
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: not me, I'm still really good. Uh, it's the rest

556
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: of these chumps. And you know, and and just like

557
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: Lebron really likes attention, I don't mean that pejoratively. Like

558
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: the guy, he really likes attention. I think it's killing

559
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: you that on the grandest stage that he's not getting

560
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: any any of it right like that. It is the

561
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: Steps that it is, the Tatums that it was Chris,

562
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: Paul and them um in the previous rounds. But they

563
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: all like attention, all of them. He may be a

564
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: little more. But don't think that Draymond doesn't like attention.

565
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: Don't think Steph doesn't like attention. Don't think it was

566
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: killing the Warriors that they weren't even competing for those years.

567
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: Clay wants the attention. They all like attention. I think

568
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: you're saying because he's the biggest person that we can highlight. Look,

569
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: d Way was, but he'd be the first one to

570
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: tell you I like it. That's why they were dressed

571
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: like how they dressed, and that's why they drove the cars.

572
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: And they pull up a name matching Lambeaus And now

573
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: we're gon't like everybody likes the attention, that's a given.

574
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: But I do believe that it's it's really truly affecting

575
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: his spirit in his mind that he's not in the finals,

576
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: or even he or not even in the layoffs, you

577
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yeah, and you know that's crazy.

578
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: I think he's facing for the first time, is like

579
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: basketball mortality for real. Um. When he signed that extension

580
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: with the Lakers, I thought that was a really pivotal

581
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: moment because he had been going year to year with

582
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: teams where it's just like, look, I'm a bron Everybody's

583
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: gonna want me. I don't need to lock anything in.

584
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: I can have my freedom. I can do what I want.

585
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, a young, single, hot chick, and

586
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: then you get to a certain point and you're like, yo,

587
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: hold on, man, let me let me just lock something. Man.

588
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: You know they're busting in chicks from Minnesota every single day,

589
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: new chicks. Let me go ahead and get locked in

590
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: real quick. So I take issue with the chicken euphemism,

591
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: but I'm not because I'm a bad and I am young,

592
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: and I still don't need to say them how I

593
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: want to. They don't tell me you are special. We

594
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: know that you are special. Not everybody has afforded those privileges.

595
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: Carry okay, all right, but I'm speaking up for the

596
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: women who might feel away. I'm like, no, take your time.

597
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: Don't let these mofos that you think that you still

598
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: can't be in the streets. And fine, I'm still freaking

599
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: so so yeah, just that extension with him just being like,

600
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,479
Speaker 1: let me lock in. Like I'm getting older, it's like

601
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: it's a rap. I'm not doing what I used to

602
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,719
Speaker 1: do anymore. And you know, missing the playoffs all together

603
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: this year is another like damn, like man, this stuff

604
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: is really creeping down. Whereas like in two thousand nine,

605
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: like as whack as this Laker team. Is that version

606
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: of Lebron just wills this team to the freaking postseason period,

607
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: No matter what, that version of Lebron, the younger version

608
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: of Lebron, would have willed them to the postseason. Maybe

609
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: not a chip, but they would have been in the

610
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: postseason and they would have been a damn tough out,

611
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: you know. Um. And so he just has to I

612
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: think I think he has to feel like, all right,

613
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: we need to approve the roster. We need Anthony Davis

614
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: to a like, you know, an alleged top ten player

615
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: in the n b A and and ex Amthony David

616
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: is gonna ever be healthy for a consecutive amount of time,

617
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: for for a consistent not even consecutive, a consistent amount

618
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: of time. Did we get can we get the best

619
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: out of him? Did we get the best out of him?

620
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: I thought in in the bubble when people were like, yo,

621
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: A d H could have been the Finals MVP, I

622
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: thought that was legitimate. I really thought it was neck

623
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: and neck. Ultimately, I thought Lebron deserved it. But Anthony

624
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: Davis was so incredible on defense specifically, I was like,

625
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: this is the best defensive player in the NBA. And

626
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: he can go out and get you thirty on a

627
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: given night. This is crazy. Um, he hasn't always showed

628
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: up with that level of focus and intensity since the championship.

629
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: It's almost like, you know, almost like some senior writer.

630
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: It's just like, yo, school's out. I got my championship,

631
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: I got my money. I'm good. There are too many

632
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: distractions in the NBA right now for these players. The

633
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: reason why I too agree with you that I thought

634
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: Milwaukee would be in the finals because they're in the

635
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: middle of no where. In my opinion, no, no, no,

636
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: no shade to folks who live in the Midwest, in Minnesota.

637
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: But the reality is they're not as distractive. They're just

638
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: not and and be honest, is not that player. He

639
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: doesn't care about starting a production company or being in

640
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: the mix. Um. I don't think Russ is that player either.

641
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: But distractions look differently. Distractions can be playing at home.

642
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: Distractions could be um, people in your ear telling you

643
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: what happened. I never, in my mind imagined Russ and

644
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: Lebron getting along. In fact, I thought I thought there

645
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: would be a moment where Rus would just turn in

646
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: to him and custom out on the court. Like I

647
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: was like, I'm waiting for that that's about to happen,

648
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: and it didn't. And I'm sure there was frustration and

649
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: things happened that we didn't see. But Russ is in

650
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: this position that I remember what other favorite player that

651
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: Shock was in. When you start to see your career

652
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: to client, you bouncing, you bounce, and you bounce and

653
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: you bounce with everyone, right, Um, and you find a

654
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: home and you look for a home, and when you

655
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: start to see that you don't really fit anywhere and

656
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: no one's really making exceptions for you, it is so

657
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: hard to accept Um and that saw in the court

658
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: and off the court for everybody. But then you, back

659
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: to my point, have to self correct. So I'll put

660
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: a pin in the Lakers as we do a recap.

661
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: But I want to talk about you thinking Phoenix was

662
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 1: going to be in the finals. Why can't Chris Paul

663
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: give me in the finals four consistent good games back

664
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: to back to back to back. I mean, he's he's

665
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: an older guy, Um, who's always had a brittle body.

666
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: Let's go when he was with the Clippers, Let's go

667
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: when he was a younger guy, Let's go when he

668
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: was in the South. What was it. Excuse me when

669
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: one of him with when he was in New Orleans

670
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: because the Lakers one of them and the trade guy

671
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: ka bosh, he still belongs to us. But you know,

672
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: rest in peace, Adams, Um, David Stern, excuse me, still

673
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 1: with us? And yeah, David Stern put came out said

674
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, this can't happen, which was some nonsense,

675
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: but whatever, rest in peace. I think Chris sometimes in

676
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 1: the past has wanted it just too much, and there's

677
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: been that he has had times. I thought, okay see

678
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: against Houston, that was a bit of an implosion in

679
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 1: the last two and a half minutes of that game seven,

680
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 1: where somehow Hard invests him. I thought that game against

681
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: that series against okay See where he had that epic

682
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: meltdown was like, really Chris Paul. But like I feel

683
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: like a lot of the other losses they lost the

684
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: better teams or you know, just had terrible injury luck

685
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: with Chris or Blake or you know, you name it. Um,

686
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: the Rockets thing was just just a ridiculously epic collapse.

687
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: But like these dudes made a bunch of lucky shots,

688
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: Like you know, Corey Brewer, who was like a three

689
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: points luck. I think some of it is bad luck,

690
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: some of it is Chris legitimately has had meltdowns in

691
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 1: the postseason, and once you when you do it, once

692
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: it stakes in people's minds, they start applying it to everything.

693
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: And I don't think that's really fair for Chris Paul Um.

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00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: He's had some some some bad, bad moments, but I

695
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: think for the most part he's been pretty damn good.

696
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: In the playoffs. Man, I think about where they beat

697
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 1: the Spurs and he makes big, gass shots in Game

698
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: seven to win that series. I've said, okay, so so

699
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: so for all Chris Paul fans. I'm not saying Chris

700
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: Paul doesn't show up big. In fact, he shows up huge.

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00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is is that people look to him.

702
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: There's the leader on every team. Handy book are a

703
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: great one to write, but like I look, I look

704
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: for the floor general to make it happen. And when

705
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't consistently, right back to back to back to back,

706
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: I think it's odd how he'll and I don't know.

707
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: I don't know how to do this. Everybody didn't know

708
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: how to be the Patriots and show up in New

709
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: England and consistently be in the playoffs and win their

710
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: division every season and every other and every season being

711
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: the in the Super Bowl. It is hard to be

712
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: consistent as the Seahawks when they thought that they were everything,

713
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: when they had the legion of boom, they learned quickly.

714
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: It's hard to stay in the game super quickly. It's

715
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: impossible for that matter. But I just wonder why one

716
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: game he's putting up and I'm gonna throw some numbers

717
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: that I don't know accurate, but thirty and twelve and

718
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: in in ten and then the next game it's like

719
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: zero and two and four. I'm exaggerating, but you see there,

720
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 1: it's so bipolar. What is that? Yeah, the normal age,

721
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: it's definitely normal. Um, you can't expect these guys to

722
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: come out like past thirty five and just be consistently

723
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: excellent in the highest level games, right like when you're

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Speaker 1: playing you know just about definition in the playoffs. The

725
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: further you get, the better the competition. So you can't

726
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: expect him to come out and just be blazing people,

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00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: you know, uh, game after game after game, not as

728
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: just advanced age. And I really do think you because

729
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: I got it on good authority that basically Jay crowd

730
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: of fell on this guy's leg in Game two and

731
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: that's why he wasn't the same for the rest of

732
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Speaker 1: the series. I thought, that's what I thought, that's what

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Speaker 1: it was. I thought, I thought that was it. I

734
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: was like something he's something's not right. He didn't want

735
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: to say it because then people, because guess what, I

736
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: gotta play. Don't nobody want to hear your leg? And

737
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: do nobody want to hear what you're dealing with? Nobody

738
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: want to hear that you get paid to play? Do

739
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: nobody want to hear? And I think, look, man, this

740
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 1: is why I have a hard time given Chris Paul

741
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 1: a hard time because at the end of the day,

742
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 1: I think he's a model NBA player, a model superstar. Um,

743
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: he's a team like just the way that he plays.

744
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: Everything he does is in service of victories. It's not vanity.

745
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: There's nothing that's done for vanity, like, oh I need

746
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: to get thirty because it makes me look good. Everything

747
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 1: he does on the court is in service of winning.

748
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: You think about what he does off the court, how

749
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: he comports himself as an NBA player. He's an incredible ambassador.

750
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: What he's done to get his body right, even at

751
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: his old age with his brittle body, like the dedication

752
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: that it's taken, Like you compare him to some of

753
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 1: these other cats, James Harden like it's it's night and

754
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: day as to his approach to this thing that we

755
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: all love. So it's hard for me to give the

756
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: guy a hard time on the other side of that

757
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 1: when I know what type of dedication he puts into,

758
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: you know, being a great player. So last that was

759
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: wonderful because you're right and you shut me down. He

760
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: really does not play for vanity and that is a

761
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: rare player and that and I'm gonna steal your hot

762
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: take because that is true by model. I don't I

763
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want to. That's hyperbole for

764
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: me because I'm not saying anybody's perfect. But I do

765
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: believe you're right. He plays for the game. He plays

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00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: to win. The extra shof doesn't matter. I know, because

767
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: let me tell you some trifle and stuff I did,

768
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: Please share. I didn't want I didn't want the Clippers

769
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: to win when they were looking like they were about

770
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: to be in the finals and they were playing Phoenix.

771
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: What was that one year that was just year before

772
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: this one? What is that? And I don't notice? Man,

773
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: I jumped in his dams and I'm like, can you

774
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: please beat them for me? Because if the clippers get

775
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: anywhere near a chip, it will ruin my spirit. I

776
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: don't know if I will be able to survive. I

777
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 1: might have a heart I might have a heart attack.

778
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: I was like, you can't let this happen. I want

779
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: you to know liquor fans are depending on you worldwide.

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00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: And he just replied very professionally to your point, L

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00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: O L. He was not about to get into the

782
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: bulls with me because he was like, this is about

783
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: the team by getting into the bulls, but you carry

784
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: with your little selfish self. Yeah, that's perfect. Y'all know,

785
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: I gotta pay these bills, and if you feel like

786
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: you want to fast forward, I can I promote it.

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00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: We got a lot of commercials, a zillion commercials, a

788
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: lot of commercials. Your girl has to be paid. Just

789
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: hit that fast forward button. We'll be back in the moment.

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Speaker 1: Every champion and carvery champion has to be a champion

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Speaker 1: out of champion and carry chappion and care with chepiyon

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Speaker 1: Cheppy and they carry Cheppi, and they carry Chepi and the

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Speaker 1: the tame make and make it work. Carry Cheppi and

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Speaker 1: they carrie Cheppi is to Chepion, the Chempi and they

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Speaker 1: carry Cheppion and Cheppi and they carry Cheppi and they

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Speaker 1: care with Chepia. Can make it work. Thank you, that

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Speaker 1: was quick. If you pressed pass forward, we're back NBA recap.

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Speaker 1: Here's more so what happened in Milwaukee. Let me just

799
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 1: make sure we're doing a recap. He thought the Lakers

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00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: would be competitive, not necessarily winning it, but competitive. We

801
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: talked about what we thought with the collapse. In short,

802
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: a younger version of Lebron would have willed them to

803
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Everybody understands their basketball mortality, but I also

804
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: know there are a lot of people that were contributing

805
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 1: to the demise of that. And by the way, Stevie

806
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: Wonder called me, he said, I can see that this

807
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: team won't work at the beginning of the year. He said, carry,

808
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: I too can see, so we already knew that. Then

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00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: we go on and we talked about Phoenix and you

810
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: you rightfully corrected me. Chris Paul is a model player

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00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, and he wasn't, and it happens,

812
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: especially when you're an older player. I thought they would

813
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: definitely be in the finals two. And it's so disappointing because,

814
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: between you and I want him to get a chip.

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00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: He deserves it more than anybody. I think he really does.

816
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 1: After all he's he's been in the league, he's been

817
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: like whatever, I know, I hear what I hear. He

818
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: deserves it. And then we go to Milwaukee. I thought

819
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: they'd do it too, because I think they were the

820
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: least distracted in the league. But they need some help

821
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 1: to write. They also need some help, and they had

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00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: a bit of a what I like to call a

823
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: championship hangover, so they it's been tough for them to

824
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: get back. But do you think they need to reassess

825
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: who's on the team in Milwaukee? Nah, I don't think so.

826
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: I think it's like they can hang their hat on

827
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: the fact that their second or third best player could

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Speaker 1: not play against the team that eventually ended up in

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Speaker 1: the finals, and they took them the seven games. They

830
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: took these guys to the brink without Chris Middleton, right,

831
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: and I think they can feel confident in the idea that,

832
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: like we would have beat Boston if we had Chris Middleton,

833
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: and I think that I don't think there's anybody that

834
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: would disagree with that point and be like that's ridiculous

835
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: or absurd, right, um, And so I don't I think

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00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 1: they need to upgrade like the Grayson Allen minutes and

837
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: you know, the Carter minutes where I'm just like, I

838
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: know Janice is a you know, he's a generational player,

839
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: but like sometimes it's just like, my god, these guys.

840
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: They let b J. Tucker go for basically no reason whatsoever.

841
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: The guy was dying to come back and they basically

842
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: told him to go fish. Um. So I think they

843
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 1: need to they need to tighten up the around the edges.

844
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: But when you got somebody who defends the ship out

845
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: of people like Drew Holiday, Janice being we don't even

846
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: need to talk about Yannie, like the proof is in

847
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: the pudding, what type of player he is. Um. I

848
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,959
Speaker 1: think their foundation is pretty set. They need to get

849
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: some of the ancillary pieces though. Um in all season

850
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: I'll look forward to see how they add on to

851
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 1: the team. You're talking about p J. Tucker. Let's talk

852
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 1: about Miami and speaking being the East, they were they

853
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: were the number one seat for a hot minute, and

854
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: nobody paid attention to them. They had, as U d

855
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: Applete points out, nobody was fooling with them. No, they

856
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: were completely disrespected. I know that that's a lot of

857
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: bless her for a lot of people, But why why

858
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: didn't we take Jimmy Butler and and the Miami Heat Seriously?

859
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: I think because Jimmy is by we I meant the media. Yeah,

860
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 1: I think Jimmy because by definition, is the classic postseason player.

861
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: He's he he played like by the numbers, He's just

862
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: a way better player when the playoffs come right, And

863
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: the fact that he hasn't been a mainstay in the

864
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: playoffs is that people just collectively as a memory. It's like,

865
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: we don't think of Jimmy Butler as a playoff basketball

866
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: mainstay the way we do. Like in the playoffs, there's characters.

867
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: There's Lebron, this, Steph, Chris Paul, There's these characters that

868
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: we've come accustomed to seeing in the playoffs every year.

869
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: Because Jimmy, although he's been awesome in the playoffs that

870
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: he's been in, um, he hasn't been a fixture in

871
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: deep postseason runs. So we don't think of Jimmy, he's

872
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: not top of brain. So when his team is um

873
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: playing well in the in the regular season, oftentimes while

874
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: he's not even there, it's like, uh, that's not a

875
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: serious thing, right, Like Whereas like, you know, everybody's sort

876
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: of respected what Milwaukee was doing, even though they kind

877
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: of took the regular season off for being honest, like

878
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: Golden States shout out the gates and then they kind

879
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: of took the pedal off the gas um and and

880
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: you know, we were like, but we've seen this movie

881
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: with Golden State before. I think with Jimmy, we just

882
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: don't have that equity with him. But I think after

883
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 1: this year, the way he performed where he was, why

884
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: don't we have the equity. They made it to the finals.

885
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: They made it to the finals in the bubble. People

886
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: people like to disrespect the bubble and let's and I'm sorry,

887
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: I watched those games like that was his high level

888
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: of basketball being played as I've ever seen. I'm not

889
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: even trying to hear that. And if it wasn't Lebron,

890
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: they wouldn't be putting in an aster. They will like

891
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: if you watch the games, nobody was like, oh, this

892
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:17,439
Speaker 1: is bullshit. Basketball, like it was high level basketball. Yeah,

893
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: get out of here, but it was I only hear

894
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: that from hate other teams. But how did you hate

895
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: about that stuff at the old I don't even I

896
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: don't even acknowledge him. He's so he's not even relevant

897
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: any any He's been doing this for years. He's been

898
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: getting in people's heads. He's been talking trash. I was

899
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: espn he would do. He would like tweet Jamal and

900
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: tell her she wasn't cute, Like, yeah, he was just

901
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: a child. He was a child. I was just like,

902
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: what kind of grown man talks like that? I was like,

903
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: you don't even matter, Like you're attacking a woman. Save

904
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: all that smoke for stephen A. Save all that smoke

905
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: for Skip, Save all that smoke for people you actually

906
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: go up with. Don't attack another person for giving an

907
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: opion who's paid to give an open and now he's

908
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: doing exactly He's doing exactly that. Like it's just the

909
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: irony of it all. Like you you met when somebody

910
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: talking about you, and now you're doing exactly that for money.

911
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: I see him. I just don't have respect for that.

912
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: Like I understand that's his role and he can't tell

913
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: but he and he and he wears, yeah, it's not

914
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: about someone. Do you have a problem with my opinion, Well,

915
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: here's the deal. I will say this because we've been there.

916
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: Do you remember when I said that I wouldn't put

917
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: Katie in my top five because he doesn't have enough

918
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: heart And I was trending for like months and months

919
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: and months. It was really bad. He was right after

920
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: it was when he was with okay see. He was

921
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: okay see. And then that was the season that they

922
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: were up like remember that the playoffs they were up

923
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: against Golden State. I remember that very well, and gold

924
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: Say came back and won every game. And then not

925
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: only did Golden Say come back and advanced to the finals,

926
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant joined them the following year. No one had

927
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,439
Speaker 1: any stories on my hot takes in No one said

928
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: nothing about what she might have even as heads up,

929
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: no one said anything. So now is this comment. It's

930
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: this common. Everyone understands how he moves, and that was

931
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: a kind of player I didn't want. I don't want

932
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: you attacking the media. I don't want you to focus

933
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: on what the people got a job to do, and

934
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: your job is to put the fall in the basket.

935
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: So I do get I do understand that perhaps in hindsight,

936
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: I could have said it differently. But and that was

937
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: a personal attack, like you don't have enough heart. It

938
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: could have been you know what, he's just not the

939
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: player that I would want to lead my team. It

940
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: could have been just that. It could have been that simple. Um.

941
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 1: So I understand what you say about about attacking personally,

942
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: because sometimes that happens. But I do believe that we're

943
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: adjusting in real time, yourself included as media, how we

944
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: cover these players, because these players are now refusing to

945
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: let us say whatever we want and without taking issue. Now,

946
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: I don't mind you taking issue with what I said,

947
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: because I have to be able to back it up

948
00:50:58,440 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 1: and I have to be able to say what I

949
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: want to say. No one wants to be trending. I

950
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: don't care good or bad. You just don't want to

951
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: be trending, period. But I do know that now that

952
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: they have a voice, there's new media. I consider myself

953
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: a part of new media because I'm talking about it

954
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: in a way in which I don't care. There are

955
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,720
Speaker 1: no restrictions. I think you're a part of new media.

956
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: You have some restrictions on what you say, but I

957
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: don't feel like we can sit back and allow them

958
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: to have their own narrative because they're not journalists or

959
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: analysts in that matter, and they can't be. They don't

960
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: go create, they don't go hard on their teammates like

961
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: you go on these podcasts. If you go on Draymon's

962
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: podcast and he has Lebron, he's not gonna go hard

963
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: on Lebron. He's not gonna go hard on the people

964
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: who are on his podcast. He's going to give a

965
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: different perspective because he plays the game, and so it's

966
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: it's incumbent upon us to do the same, you know

967
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: what I mean, like to do the same to be Okay.

968
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,760
Speaker 1: Do you feel let's just talk about this new media.

969
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you are a part of new

970
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 1: media or old media or you live in the middle. Um,

971
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: I'm definitely in a newer environment, right, Like you know,

972
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: like on our podcast at the Ringer, like in the

973
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: middle of talking about like wind shares of warp or whatever,

974
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: I might drop a dick joke, right Like That's not

975
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 1: something that was typical of what you might see in

976
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: media before. Um, So I definitely feel like, yeah, we're

977
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 1: definitely on the newer side of things, and we don't

978
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: do ship like you know, like a first take segment

979
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: would never appear on what we do in our work

980
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: over at the Ringer, right, And so in that sense,

981
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: I think that we're newer um for what we do.

982
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: But you know, as far as the players are concerned, um,

983
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: I don't. I think I think people are making a

984
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: big a bit of a bit too big of a

985
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 1: deal of it, right. Um. Draymond Green is a special

986
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: case in the sense that one he's really basketball smart,

987
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: Two he's really good at communicating at communication, and three

988
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: he has a knack for what's interesting, what will get

989
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: people talking that isn't just Patrick Beverley talking about Chris

990
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: Paul Like everybody knows you talk about somebody is gonna

991
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: get it's gonna get attention. Draymond like understands like, no,

992
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: I can say something interesting that's a little bit nuanced

993
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: that will also get people talking. But like ninety nine

994
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 1: out of a hundred players don't have that in them.

995
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: Like J. J. Reddick is special, Draymond is special. I

996
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: don't think anybody could just start, you know, some type

997
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: of media entity and it's gonna be crazy and kill

998
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: the game like and no shade to KD. But I've

999
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: watched board Room, like, I don't think that's like you

1000
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: know the Sopranos, you know, saying like and then why

1001
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: do you have to say no shade? You can say

1002
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: what you feel about it. It's it's it's fair to

1003
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 1: say that everybody, just because they have a platform, can't

1004
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 1: talk the game. There's work to this, Like, I feel

1005
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 1: like people forget it takes nuance. It takes work to

1006
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 1: get up there and talk. I did Draymond's very first

1007
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: TV show, he Hope, I Hope the arena on TNT.

1008
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: It was me him shocked, excuse me, Chuck and d Wade.

1009
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: I watched him. That's my guy, I said, And I

1010
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: told him that next, like in between commercial break, after

1011
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: it was over, you're about to blow up. That He

1012
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: was still very nervous, and he still made a lot

1013
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: of mistakes, but he learned the game quickly. You can't

1014
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: disit up here and talk basketball with a microphone and

1015
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: be good. It doesn't work that way. And it's okay

1016
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 1: to say that. So if you don't like bore Room,

1017
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: it's okay. I've seen it. And and again, this is

1018
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 1: a cross platforms, right like um Joe Button podcast, norieg

1019
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: Gonna Drink Drink Chaps like other rappers have started podcasts

1020
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: since they don't last. They're not good, Like not everybody's compelling.

1021
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: Not you're right, you're right. You know. It's so like

1022
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 1: Draymond and j J and shouts to j J. That's

1023
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: my man, Like these guys are exceptional, you know, like

1024
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: they're they're good at what they do. Most cats don't

1025
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: got the time, they don't got the commitment. They like.

1026
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: It's not they don't understand what's interesting. So you know,

1027
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: that's that's where I'm at with the new media stuff.

1028
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: But I do get a kick out of Draymond. I

1029
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: love that who go on his podcast after getting his

1030
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: ass kicked and like, you know and talk about it

1031
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm I'm happy that Draymond is doing what

1032
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: he's doing. I think Draymond is a treasure. Um I

1033
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: I consider him a friend and honest and real and

1034
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: he keeps it a buck and he honestly you talk

1035
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: about good people, just good people. It's you and I

1036
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: both know every player is not a good person, and

1037
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: every player he and he's gotten into it with other players,

1038
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: but and he may be right or wrong, but he

1039
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: still keeps it a buck about I shouldn't have said that,

1040
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: or I should have said that, or that's how that's

1041
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: how I felt in a moment because of the circumstances.

1042
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,240
Speaker 1: So I I respect him. I just I just do

1043
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: um And I think people respect people who don't make

1044
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: it a personal attack. Going back to pet Beev, like

1045
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 1: stop it, stop stop making it personal. No one's talking

1046
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: about what you look like. No one's talking about this

1047
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: that Like, come on, calm down, Um I do I

1048
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: do want to talk out who you think it's gonna

1049
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:07,760
Speaker 1: win it all? M hmm. We're talking. We're recording this

1050
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: on the day of Game three in Boston, So Warriors

1051
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 1: have Boston. Who wins it all? You don't have to

1052
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: make predictions in four or five games, but just who

1053
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: wins it all? I picked Boston before the series. Um,

1054
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: I still think they're going to they they will win.

1055
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: Game two was like, all right, you guys gotta figure

1056
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: some things out with Big Al because they're just picking

1057
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: on him and abusing him right now. Stuff is just

1058
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: like his eyes light up whenever he brings big out

1059
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: love for the pick and roll. But I just think

1060
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 1: ultimately their athleticism, their defensive versatility, UM, their toughness at

1061
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: this point right like they've they faced some adverse situations

1062
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: in the playoffs this year. Um, and I think that

1063
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: will win the day. Um, they gotta figure out what

1064
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 1: they're doing on the stuff pick and roll. I think

1065
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of things they could try out that

1066
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: they haven't yet. Um. I just think youth is going

1067
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: to win the day here. So you're giving it to Boston. Yes,

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00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 1: I'm picking Boston. A lot of people donna say it's

1069
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: because of my boss, which is not like I make

1070
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: fun of I make fun of Simmons about the Boston

1071
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: stuff all the time. Like I genuinely think Boston is

1072
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: gonna win. Okay, okay, okay, I have nothing to say.

1073
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: I will tell you what my Boston prediction is and

1074
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: everyone will laugh and you can take it back to

1075
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: your Boston. And like she talking about your woman, stick

1076
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,439
Speaker 1: to sports, you know, I don't think she would say that.

1077
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: Anybody will say that because that's just how y'all are.

1078
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: Y'all dismiss it. And then when we say it, especially

1079
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: as a brown woman, and when we write, we never

1080
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: get love for it. Jayson Tatum is coming to Los

1081
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: Angeles as a Laker. I have it on good authority.

1082
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: When that's happening, how that's happening, I can't tell you. Okay, okay, okay,

1083
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: okay that today's day doing a podcast. That's what we're doing. Okay,

1084
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: So okay, okay, listen, don't call me to come on

1085
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: your show to talk about it. When it happens, I'm dead,

1086
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: ass were done? Was I'm dead? Asked, I'm not doing

1087
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: it with you. Don't ask me to be like, how

1088
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: did you know? By the way, when Lebron was coming

1089
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: to When Lebron was coming to l A, someone said,

1090
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: how do you know? I said, because I have a

1091
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: girlfriend who does his wife's hair and she's here, planted

1092
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: and living her best life. It's always the wives that

1093
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: give out the information. And she was sitting here planted,

1094
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: had the kids already enrolled in school, and I was like,

1095
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: Lebron's coming to l A, and y'all don't want to

1096
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: talk about it, but that's finely Like you don't know,

1097
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: that's yes, I do. And when it happened, I just left.

1098
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: I said, but you don't worry about me. I'm gonna

1099
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: keep my sources to myself. I'm not a newsbreaker. I'm

1100
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:54,439
Speaker 1: no shams, I'm no I'm no woes. But I'm gonna

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00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: tell you this. It's happening. So okay, last time I

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00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: got kind of prediction, and uh, it was this past summer.

1103
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: I was in Brooklyn. I was drunk as hell. Uh

1104
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: at the bodega getting a loose cigarette. That's how drunk

1105
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: I was. And the Lucy In New York you can

1106
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: buy cigarettes like two at a time. Instead of getting

1107
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: a whole pack that comes twenty in the pack, you

1108
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: can buy two cigarettes four dollars. So I was the

1109
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: fact that you guys have that of New York. I'm

1110
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: just so I was getting lucy drunk off my mind

1111
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: start talking about sports with these dudes that were just

1112
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: literally loitering the front of the corner store. And the

1113
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: dude was like, mark my words, he was a Raiders fan.

1114
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: He was like, mark my words, we're getting um, what's

1115
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: old boy from from the packers. What's the wide receiver's name,

1116
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: Davante Adams. He was on the package. He's only Raiders.

1117
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: So he was like, mark my words, Davante Adams is

1118
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:57,439
Speaker 1: going to the Raiders. Derek Carson's boy from college. Blah

1119
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: blah blah. Mind you, I'm drunk and some god lord

1120
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: of in the corner store. If flat was Brooklyn, I'm like,

1121
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: all right, fam, sure this dude forced this way to

1122
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: the Raiders. He had some type of info and so obviously,

1123
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes stuff just lines up and it makes sense.

1124
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,439
Speaker 1: It's like the situation just makes sense. Like I keep

1125
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: hearing that. I like, I have Brandon Marshall on the

1126
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: podcast The Great White out Right, and he says to me,

1127
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: you know he has I Am Athlete podcast. You know

1128
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: that in Miami. Came on a few times. He's gone

1129
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: via a bunch of times. I just did it too,

1130
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: not too long ago, but um I I remember him

1131
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: telling me, with without apology, that Colin Kaepernick was getting

1132
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: signed this season. He's like, watch and you still watch.

1133
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't see it. He's like, watch now,

1134
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: still not signed. And I rolled my eyes the same

1135
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: way in which you rolled my eyes. Will told you

1136
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 1: to Jayson Tatum was coming to the Lakers, watch and

1137
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: see homeboy, he can't get his team. Just like we

1138
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: all knew. We all new old boy who got He

1139
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 1: hasn't played this whole season, and I totally am blanking

1140
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 1: on his name. He want a chip for Toronto for him?

1141
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: What's his name? Yes, God, Kauai. I'm so sorry you

1142
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: out the whole season. I forget your name. We all

1143
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: knew when Kauai won that chip has come back to

1144
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: l A. Nobody thought he was resigning, right. You don't

1145
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: think he was going back to Toronto, right? And you

1146
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: feel like Jason is going to be a stay at

1147
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 1: home player. Players don't do what Kobe and Magic and

1148
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: and kareem in them did. You don't stay on teams

1149
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 1: for twenty years anymore. You just don't do to be

1150
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: to go from Boston at the peak of your See,

1151
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna have to be. It's gonna have to see.

1152
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Because the two franchises hate each other,

1153
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: it's gonna be some tricky stuff, right. It will be

1154
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: some tricky ship because you're not just going to give

1155
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,919
Speaker 1: him to the Lakers knowing that they're there. You're nemesis, right,

1156
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: So it'll be some tricky ship. But it's happening. And

1157
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: that's all I got to tell you. And I don't

1158
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: and don't ask you for no comment afterwards. Okay, Yeah,

1159
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 1: I love it you already here first or naked with

1160
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: carry champions. I want to talk about your career path

1161
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: before I let you go. I'm very excited for you,

1162
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: and I think that you know. I'm reading the bio

1163
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, he was working at the bank,

1164
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 1: and then he knew. I mean, who's my guy who

1165
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 1: I love? UM tell him, I said, Hi, I'll have

1166
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 1: to tweet him too, and so I um or text

1167
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 1: him as well. I remember thinking, I love this story

1168
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 1: because it is one of determination and persever im perseverance,

1169
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 1: and I'm a fan of that. I'm a fan of

1170
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: people telling me I can't and then still doing it.

1171
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: You look back on where you came from and how

1172
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 1: you were not you were sports adjacent like so many

1173
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: people right back to back, back to our point about

1174
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: new media, how every athlete can't have a podcast at

1175
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:56,959
Speaker 1: a TV show and it does well. There's so many people.

1176
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 1: A bump into everybody who want to debate him, like,

1177
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. I'm not debating you. You sound crazy,

1178
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: you don't know shunamou or more important, I don't have

1179
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,919
Speaker 1: the energy. How do you how do you look back

1180
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: on your career trajectory? Are you feeling overwhelmed, Are you

1181
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: feeling blessed? Are you feeling hungry? And I just want more?

1182
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:20,479
Speaker 1: I definitely feel hungry and I just want more. But like, man,

1183
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: it's it's it's one of those things where like like

1184
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: a lot of people in my life, like when they

1185
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: want to make fun of me, they just say that, like,

1186
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 1: you know, my my life is touched or or I'm

1187
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 1: charmed like and you know, to a certain extent, there

1188
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: is like some truth to that in the sense that

1189
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: none of this should should have happened realistically, right, Um,

1190
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: it was just something that I ended up pursuing at

1191
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: a time where I was looking for work and it's

1192
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: just crazy. So like for the people who are listening,

1193
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: like I was working at JP Morgan Chase in mortgage

1194
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 1: banking and like Andy got let go, and I was

1195
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: looking for work in the financial sector, and you know,

1196
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 1: it was like a lot of whatever, it was ups

1197
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 1: and downs with that. And the woman I was dating

1198
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: at the time was like, well, if you could be

1199
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: doing anything, what would you be doing him? And I

1200
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 1: just remember thinking that that was the dumbest thing that

1201
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: I've ever heard in my life, Like, um, like like

1202
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: you can't just get up and do anything that's not

1203
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 1: life works, right. I'm like, you know, I didn't go

1204
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 1: to journalism school. I don't I don't know how to broadcast,

1205
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: I don't know how to whatever. But I was like,

1206
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: if I could do anything, I'd probably want to work

1207
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 1: in media, specifically, I want to work in NBA media.

1208
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 1: And she said, well, do you know anybody that works

1209
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 1: in media? And you know, for the people who are

1210
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: listening at home, like this is a white woman, which

1211
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 1: like at the time, I remember thinking to myself like,

1212
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you were dating a white woman. I was um,

1213
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: And I remember at the time thinking to myself, like,

1214
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 1: your white people really think they can do anything? Like

1215
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: they really truly that is the world in which they live.

1216
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 1: Then this, this opportunity is in abundance. It's like you

1217
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 1: can do anything. And she was like, do you know

1218
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 1: anybody works in the business, And I was like, you

1219
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: know what, actually I do. A mean had just left um,

1220
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 1: the Phoenix Suns and he got a part time like situation,

1221
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: freelance situation with ESPN through our friend Henry Abbott, and

1222
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 1: so I mean just got this like he wasn't he

1223
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,919
Speaker 1: wasn't even on a contract with them. He just got

1224
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: that look. And I had known, I mean because his

1225
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 1: cousin boss and I went the high school together and

1226
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 1: we're really grateful, okay, And so I reached out to

1227
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: what Mean and he gave me some advice or whatever,

1228
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 1: which ended up not mattering, but what matter. It is

1229
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 1: like he knew that I was trying to do something

1230
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 1: with that. And because back in fifteen, ESPN could give

1231
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 1: a funk about digital, um, you know this because you

1232
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: were on the TV side, Amine could just do whatever

1233
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 1: he wanted on the little web show that they gave him.

1234
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: And he asked me to come on because you knew

1235
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 1: it was something I wanted to do, and we went on,

1236
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 1: we shot the ship and then is cool and producer

1237
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 1: Jade was just like I like this, dude, and I

1238
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 1: just kept coming on and more people in the business

1239
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 1: started knowing who I was, and like other media people

1240
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: and people following me and DM me like, yo, you're

1241
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: killing it on this ship, like where are you coming

1242
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 1: from with this? Like who are you? And then it

1243
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 1: just everything just kept snowballing and snowballing and snowballing until basically,

1244
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: I want to say, like two and a half years

1245
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 1: after the fact, I got my first full time job

1246
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 1: in sports media, and then you know, I left that

1247
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 1: and moved to l A for that. Then that ship

1248
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 1: ended up crapping out. I got my I got a

1249
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 1: gig with Uninterrupted. In them um shouts to tune Day,

1250
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: I got. I booked that gig. Then the Athletics started

1251
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 1: talking to us about bringing us on. They bought our podcast,

1252
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: hired me full time. Um, two years into the Athletic,

1253
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, y'all want a new deal. They were kind

1254
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 1: of like, I don't know, blah blah blah blah, foxing

1255
01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 1: around tun Day, who produced my show at Uninterrupted at

1256
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 1: the time that I was really trying to renegotiate a

1257
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: deal with the Athletic. He was the podcast lead at

1258
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Speaker 1: So it just worked out. This is really small. This

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Speaker 1: this is is super small. But by the way, I

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01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 1: want to go back to your white girlfriend, She's actually right.

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01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: You can do anything you want to do. It's just

1262
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: about how the stars aligned. You can do anything you

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01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: want to do. It may not be as easy, you know,

1264
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: but you can do anything you want to do. And

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01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 1: that is truly a story of of what you're an

1266
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 1: example of that. So I applaud you, and I know

1267
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 1: it's not easy, and I know there's things that you

1268
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 1: want more of, but I really applaud your hustle because

1269
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 1: to me, there was a time, this is a sweet period,

1270
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: especially at ESPN, like between there all of these folks

1271
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:53,919
Speaker 1: that were just working hard from the gutter, who really

1272
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 1: just wanted to do it. I reference here Chris paul analogy.

1273
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 1: It wasn't for it wasn't for the glory. It was

1274
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: because I want to win. I want I want people

1275
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 1: to know what's happening. I want to talk about the

1276
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 1: love of the game, and very few people are doing

1277
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 1: that now, and so that's where you came in, and

1278
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,919
Speaker 1: that's why I feel like you were able to rise

1279
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 1: above and be chosen. So, you know, I salute anybody

1280
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 1: who works like that because it's hard to like you

1281
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 1: gotta groll up your sleeves every day. I am a

1282
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 1: believer in hard work. I do not there. You cannot

1283
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 1: take the elevator to the top. You gotta walk every

1284
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 1: single step. You skip one, you gotta go back and

1285
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,959
Speaker 1: take that again. You know what I'm saying. So I

1286
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 1: I am really really grateful that you were able to

1287
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 1: bless us with this opportunity. And I know I've talked

1288
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 1: to you for more than an hour because I was

1289
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 1: running late. I just want to remind people two things.

1290
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 1: My biggest takeaway is he thinks Boston's gonna win, so

1291
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to congratulate him if he's right. He

1292
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 1: laughed at the fact that I said, Jayson Tatum is

1293
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 1: coming to like but whatever, he gonna have to say

1294
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 1: apologies to me eventually because it's happening. And I don't

1295
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 1: care if you dated a white girl. I was just

1296
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 1: giving you a hard time. That's good. That's good. I mean, look,

1297
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 1: if I had to present my Resident may Too to

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01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: the public, it would be a panically, it would be

1299
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 1: it would be diverse. I stand by my record. Two sisters,

1300
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 1: all the sisters out there, don't worry. By the way,

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01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: she help Oh my goodness, who gave me that vision?

1302
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 1: Before I moved to l A, I had to send

1303
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,759
Speaker 1: her a long as email because we had long broken

1304
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:30,640
Speaker 1: up by that time, and I was like, bro, like,

1305
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 1: I'm really doing this ship And it's basically a conversation

1306
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: that I had with you that put the battle back right.

1307
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 1: Shout out? Can I tell you a story? Carry? Can

1308
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: I share with you my carry Um Champion story. So

1309
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 1: this must have been man around the same time, like

1310
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 1: around maybe fourteen ish. I'm at a party for this

1311
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:03,719
Speaker 1: magazine no longer exist that's owned by Steve Stash called

1312
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 1: Um Steve Steve Stout called Stashed. My man Kaz was

1313
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 1: like the editor in chief of that ship. And they

1314
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 1: threw a party. Yeah, they threw a party. So I'm

1315
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 1: standing next to my cousin and this woman walks in

1316
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 1: and me and my cousin are like, goddamn, who the

1317
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:23,839
Speaker 1: funk is that? And I'm like, yo, what do I notice?

1318
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 1: This shorty from tall slim joint just looking crazy. I'm like,

1319
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: where do I know this? This? I know her? What

1320
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 1: did I meet her? Or whatever? And then and then

1321
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: I tapped my cousin. I'm like, boy, that's Cary fucking Champion. No.

1322
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 1: I didn't say please, I didn't say hotty, you are

1323
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 1: you kidding me? I just sat there with my broadcast

1324
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 1: like dann carry Champion is one of the most beautiful

1325
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: people I've ever seen in real life. I swear, I

1326
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 1: swear to god. I was like, wow, I thought you're

1327
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 1: gonna say. I was like, give me a drink. Don't

1328
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 1: talk to them kidding, but I was. I just remember,

1329
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 1: you know, that's very sweet and kind of you. I

1330
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 1: try to lie low, I don't try to go out

1331
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 1: to parties. But I received all set compliments because remember,

1332
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 1: you know, I'm still out here. So I'm like bad

1333
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 1: because I'm still a bad joint. I'm still a bad joint. Bad.

1334
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 1: You make your paper, you know your worth. Come on now,

1335
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,600
Speaker 1: I'm listening. Come on, don't play with my money, I

1336
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 1: mean all my dollars. Okay, you have been amazing. Um

1337
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 1: this airs Monday. I'm going to give you a hard

1338
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 1: time just a little bit. But for the most part,

1339
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 1: I wish you nothing but success what you already have

1340
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 1: and if you don't have anything past this, you have

1341
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: done it, but you will have more. So I'm really

1342
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 1: grateful and I'm dis rooting for you. Thank you, thank you,

1343
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 1: thank you so much for the words. Super honored to

1344
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 1: be on here with you. Um. Obviously, I've been a

1345
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 1: fan of your work forever. First, I've been a fan,

1346
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 1: low key fan. I pay attention to what goes on,

1347
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 1: you know, and I just believe that if you didn't

1348
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 1: work at the Wringer, you would have picked Golden states

1349
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 1: it's not true. That's not true. I have a lot

1350
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 1: I know, I tease, tease. Okay, well, thank you so

1351
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:29,680
Speaker 1: much for joining us. I appreciate you, no problem. So

1352
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 1: you guys already know that I'm very biased. I talked

1353
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 1: about my Lakers in a way in which they can

1354
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 1: do no wrong. And when we recorded this podcast, Lebron

1355
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 1: hadn't spoken about not being in the playoffs or not

1356
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:47,799
Speaker 1: being in the finals, and he, as I am recording

1357
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 1: this right now, posted that he felt as if this

1358
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 1: was really tough for him. He said, it burns my

1359
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 1: stomach to not be a part of these games because

1360
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 1: it's the best time to play bast skidball. And I

1361
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 1: already know that. I couldn't even imagine somebody that competitive,

1362
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 1: that great at what he does not being pissed that

1363
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 1: he's not in the NBA finals, you know what I mean,

1364
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 1: or even in the playoffs for that matter, because it's

1365
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 1: a shame and he's judged to a different He's judged differently.

1366
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 1: So when we think about the n b A, I

1367
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 1: don't know too many people who don't say Lebron when

1368
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 1: you think about the current in b and I could

1369
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 1: imagine how difficult that was It's difficult for me, Lebron,

1370
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 1: if you're listening, because I needed the Lakers to be

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01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 1: in it. And while I'm quiet and I don't always

1372
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 1: discuss it on Twitter because you don't need to get

1373
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:38,719
Speaker 1: my business and I don't need your hot ass takes,

1374
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 1: I am bombed that the Lakers are not in it. Obviously,

1375
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:45,680
Speaker 1: I don't think Lebron is. I just don't believe that

1376
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 1: it's a rap for him. People have been talking of

1377
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 1: his demise for many, many years, and he still comes

1378
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 1: back bigger and better. But he just needs help, more help,

1379
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 1: just like as any person who ages needs more help.

1380
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 1: Find a bad girl who he's aging, she's doing it

1381
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 1: with more help. I might be talking about myself some

1382
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 1: help and um, and that's okay because that is like

1383
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 1: Game five, I'm giving it to the Warriors because they're

1384
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 1: at home. I think Draymond will show up big in

1385
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 1: this series. I think that he has how many more

1386
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 1: games to really prove himself and he will. He might

1387
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 1: and I say big, I mean he'll have a big game.

1388
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 1: Tonight might be Game five, rather might be his big gang.

1389
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 1: I might regret saying this, but this might be his

1390
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 1: big game. He's just really smart. He put his head down,

1391
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 1: he's doing what he has to do, and everyone's like,

1392
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 1: there's your podcast distracting is stopping you from being great.

1393
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 1: He's like, God, sound crazy. I'm gonna do what I

1394
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 1: gotta do. Stole me out, stall me out, as the

1395
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 1: l A saying, I hope you guys are watching the

1396
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 1: NBA Finals. I hope more importantly you are watching what

1397
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 1: is happening in our society and our democracy. Um I

1398
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 1: this is transition, and it's very clear. I am not

1399
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 1: happy with the state of the world that we are

1400
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 1: in today. It's just not women's rights. Are literally losing

1401
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 1: women's rights as we speak. People think it's okay to

1402
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 1: walk into a grocery market and shoot black people on site,

1403
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 1: and then because you know, if you say I give

1404
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 1: up and you put your gun down, they won't shoot you.

1405
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 1: As a white male, you're fine. And you're sitting in

1406
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 1: a jail cell with three meals in a bit after

1407
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 1: you've murdered people who did nothing to you, just one

1408
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:43,639
Speaker 1: fact they're black. It's not okay that nineteen people died

1409
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 1: in Uvaldi, Texas. It's just not okay that we're killing

1410
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 1: babies the country will tell you and it's and it's

1411
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 1: gunna rules will tell you it's okay, but it's not okay.

1412
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. If these shooters, these mash shoot

1413
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 1: things were primarily caused by black people, we'd have different

1414
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 1: gun laws. Trust me, trust me, anybody other than white

1415
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 1: men and white young boys, we'd have different gun laws.

1416
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 1: They were Armenian, if they were Muslim, they're Latin, we'd

1417
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 1: have different gun laws. But we don't because for the

1418
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 1: most part, even with the exception of Vivaldi, for the

1419
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 1: most part, these shooters look like their sons and their fathers.

1420
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:28,680
Speaker 1: And by they, I mean the people who are in

1421
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:30,680
Speaker 1: charge of this country, and that's the n r A.

1422
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 1: They have all the money. The National Rifle Association has

1423
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 1: all the money. Our politicians are bought and purchased and

1424
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 1: delivered by them. And as a result, we sit here

1425
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 1: and we'll say we want change, we want gun reform.

1426
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 1: Good luck with that. I hope we can get it.

1427
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 1: Once I sit and think about everything that is happening

1428
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:55,679
Speaker 1: in this country, I get so frustrated. The inequity is

1429
01:16:55,680 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 1: is blinding. It's blinding. And then when someone who as

1430
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:02,759
Speaker 1: a bit of a platform talks about it. You're a racist,

1431
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 1: You're a Democrat. I'm I'm neither. I'm neither. I'm not

1432
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 1: a Democrat, nor am I a racist. Surprise surprise. I'm

1433
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 1: not a Republican, nor am I a racist? Surprise surprise.

1434
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm that rare person that votes on who I think

1435
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 1: is best for the job. And yes, if I had

1436
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:22,759
Speaker 1: to pick a side, it would not be the conservative side.

1437
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,679
Speaker 1: My views and my morality for the most part, doesn't

1438
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 1: align with them. And while I agree, well, I can

1439
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:31,799
Speaker 1: agree with some of their points, right, I will agree

1440
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 1: with some of their values and some of their thought

1441
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 1: processes and some of their tactics, by and large, I

1442
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 1: would never I would never agree with them because they

1443
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:45,640
Speaker 1: don't look at the world and see the problems. They

1444
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 1: look at the world and say, we need to make

1445
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 1: America great again. And that's such a code language. That's

1446
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 1: the quiet part that we're now saying out loud, white

1447
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 1: male power. Let's put white power back in power. Everything,

1448
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 1: and I say this all the time on the podcast

1449
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 1: is about the rich versus the super rich. Everything. More importantly,

1450
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 1: it's about the super rich versus everyone else. The super

1451
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 1: rich versus everyone else is accurate let me, let me,

1452
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 1: let me reverse that super rich versus versus everyone else

1453
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 1: is more accurate because the super rich control the world,

1454
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 1: the Elon Musk, the Jeff Bezos, the buffets of the world.

1455
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 1: If you will control this world, not us. They determine

1456
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 1: who's in office, not us. The powerful organizations like the

1457
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:42,520
Speaker 1: n r A, the National Rifle Association, they control policy.

1458
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 1: And we think that we can't make a difference, but

1459
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 1: we can. We really can. So I hope you guys

1460
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 1: are voting during the mid terms. I hope you guys

1461
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:56,680
Speaker 1: are voting, not just every four years. You're voting when

1462
01:18:56,720 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 1: it matters. You're voting for your local municipalities because those

1463
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 1: things matter. That's my new that's my new push. As

1464
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 1: I digress on this tag, meanwhile, go Warriors, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: have to wrap it up with y'all. Go Warriors, and

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Speaker 1: see y'all next week. Thanks for getting naked.