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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast. George Noriy with you,
Speaker 2: Doctor Scott garn with us his book that he wrote
Speaker 2: with Nicole Bigley, Looking for Angels. Scott, in your opinion,
Speaker 2: give me a definition of what you think angels might be.
Speaker 3: Well, Angels generally are described as energetic beings. There is
Speaker 3: some controversy if they have a will of their own,
Speaker 3: a free will or not, depending on what religious sector
Speaker 3: and tradition you look at, but they're certainly energetic beings.
Speaker 3: One thing that I think is missed by a lot
Speaker 3: of people is that there are different species than humans
Speaker 3: in a sense. Obviously, they're spiritual and they're not physical
Speaker 3: all the time. But as far as the religious texts go,
Speaker 3: and I'm talking to world religions, they all kind of
Speaker 3: say that the angels will created separate from the universe,
Speaker 3: you know in the beginning, So they are separate, not
Speaker 3: they were never incarnated, you know, as people. So they're
Speaker 3: they're here to serve God, source the universe, and us
Speaker 3: through our journey.
Speaker 2: I've always wondered if the Biblical story of fallen angels
Speaker 2: has anything to do with extraterrestrials that kind of presence,
Speaker 2: and that they somehow got the two a little confused.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, if you look at the apocryphal Old Testament
Speaker 3: or Hebrew Biblical Book Enoch, I think one and two,
Speaker 3: there's some pretty wild scenarios there about you know, spirit
Speaker 3: you know, coming down and interacting with humans and that
Speaker 3: type of thing. So it does kind of get a
Speaker 3: little blurry at times. And certainly the uh, the creation
Speaker 3: of archangel uh, the devil archangel Lucifer, and then his
Speaker 3: loss to archangel Michael to be cast out of heaven.
Speaker 3: It could be you know, but it's you know, in
Speaker 3: my my perspective, it's speculation.
Speaker 2: I have my own angel story, Scott. I'll tell you
Speaker 2: next hour about that. I've talked about it on the
Speaker 2: year before. But it's truly unbelievable. And he was putting
Speaker 2: another book. Uh, it's just something else. But the communications
Speaker 2: with angels, do we pray to them?
Speaker 3: Well, Uh, if you want to call prayer, you want
Speaker 3: to call intention, you want to call talking, you want
Speaker 3: to call feeling. You know, it's uh, it's you know,
Speaker 3: in my perspective, it doesn't matter. You know, there is
Speaker 3: some there is some in the in the New Testament,
Speaker 3: there's some warnings about you shouldn't worship angels and only God.
Speaker 3: But you know, it's it gets to be in a sense.
Speaker 3: It doesn't really matter in a sense because all beings,
Speaker 3: you know, point back to God, you know, source universe,
Speaker 3: and we're all kind of components of that. So certainly
Speaker 3: praying to an angel is certainly fine, especially in times
Speaker 3: of need, and you know that's how we do things.
Speaker 3: And so the other thing too is that words may
Speaker 3: you know, it's some many times communication with spirit beings
Speaker 3: or angels not not always in words. It could be feelings,
Speaker 3: it could be telepathy in that way, but absolutely, you know,
Speaker 3: highly recommended.
Speaker 2: When you started writing about angels, did anything happen to
Speaker 2: you spiritually?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean, you know, my whole world kind
Speaker 3: of uh expanded in two ways. One is that uh,
Speaker 3: you know, a year ago, Uh, you know, I would
Speaker 3: somebody said do you have a spirit team, I would
Speaker 3: say no. And if they said do you have any
Speaker 3: psychic senses? I would say no, I don't have a
Speaker 3: psychic sense and not psychic bone in my body. And
Speaker 3: that's when when I got together with Nicole to write
Speaker 3: this book out the you know, she has been running
Speaker 3: a podcast called a Psychic Story for five years, and
Speaker 3: I reached out to her, uh to you know, see
Speaker 3: if she would be interested in being a co author
Speaker 3: on the book, and then I ended up working with
Speaker 3: her on the podcast as a writer, co producer and
Speaker 3: a frequent guest. But through that, you know, year, every
Speaker 3: week there's a new guest, you know, a medium, of
Speaker 3: a death duel, a numerologist, and so you know, we
Speaker 3: get a lot of that in so I kind of thought, Okay,
Speaker 3: I want to take this a little bit further. And
Speaker 3: the first kind of big thing for me was we
Speaker 3: had a guest on talking about spirit animals and then
Speaker 3: I read something about, you know, if you want a
Speaker 3: spirit animal, you just asked for it. So one night
Speaker 3: when I went to bed, I just like, you know,
Speaker 3: you know, please, you know, let me meet my spirit animal.
Speaker 3: And the next morning, in my mind's eye, very real,
Speaker 3: a leopard appeared on my right side and I named
Speaker 3: her Shira, and she is around me to the day
Speaker 3: and sometimes if I'm not paying attention, I may kind
Speaker 3: of reach my hand over. I mean, that's how real
Speaker 3: it is to me. And then and then also, and
Speaker 3: I didn't even ask for this, but I had a
Speaker 3: very dear and an important person in my life growing up.
Speaker 3: He was a teacher, a graphic arts teacher, photography teacher,
Speaker 3: as my wrestling coach, and he took a bunch of
Speaker 3: us on bike rides in the summers, and he my
Speaker 3: father certainly is the most important person in my life
Speaker 3: and now in my life. But Bob was a teacher
Speaker 3: at heart, and that's what I craved, and so I
Speaker 3: got very involved in him. He passed in twenty fifteen
Speaker 3: from mesothelioma. And one day I was just driving on
Speaker 3: the road and there was a restaurant near my house
Speaker 3: where he went one day, you know, ten fifteen years ago,
Speaker 3: And I said to him when he said, oh, I
Speaker 3: was up by, I was up your way. You went
Speaker 3: to this restaurant, I'm like, why why didn't you tell me?
Speaker 3: Why don't you call it? Blah blah blah. So, you know,
Speaker 3: three months ago, I'm driving by there a restaurant, and
Speaker 3: I hear in his voice, I was there, I told you,
Speaker 3: And then I kind of like went with it. I've
Speaker 3: kind of, you know, felt like, well, maybe that was
Speaker 3: something that he would have said, but no, it was
Speaker 3: a current statement in the situation I was in.
Speaker 2: Well, clearly you heard it as if you were sitting
Speaker 2: in the car way.
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely absolutely, and so I just you know, I
Speaker 3: put the intention out please, you know, help me to
Speaker 3: connect more with Bob. And he's kind of been a
Speaker 3: regular part of my life ever since then.
Speaker 2: And he was very influential when you were a kid.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, absolutely stayed.
Speaker 2: In touch with him. That's interesting and admirable as well.
Speaker 2: A lot of teachers just move on, Scott.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, it's interesting.
Speaker 2: Now you don't, don't You don't write about demons in
Speaker 2: your book Home.
Speaker 3: No, well, I thought about that for a long time,
Speaker 3: and you know, and uh, and then I decided against
Speaker 3: it because it would certainly, you know, double double the
Speaker 3: length of the book. And then this the other part
Speaker 3: was that you know, gets into you know, a dark area. Uh, certainly.
Speaker 3: And then and then I was talking to Nicole at
Speaker 3: one point, I'm like, we just decided let's let let's
Speaker 3: just keep with the good guys on this and we
Speaker 3: want to we want to have hope, We want to
Speaker 3: help people connect with their angels or you know, for
Speaker 3: their own benefit and getting closer to God and their
Speaker 3: spiritual journey. And it's certainly out there, you know, and
Speaker 3: they can you know, there's resources out there, but but
Speaker 3: we decided to stay away from that. Uh. A funny
Speaker 3: thing happened. I was in Villanova, which is a large
Speaker 3: Catholic university, and doing some research. Yeah, and and they
Speaker 3: pointed me to a one of their you know when
Speaker 3: they have several libraries. I was in a basement, like
Speaker 3: three levels down basement, looking up like some of that
Speaker 3: angels and archangels and stuff of history. And uh, you
Speaker 3: know when you walk down there, you walk in and
Speaker 3: the lights pop on and then I'm reading and I'm
Speaker 3: reading and I start reading about this one demon and
Speaker 3: it was kind of fascinating story. And then all of
Speaker 3: a sudden the lights went out, like and that was
Speaker 3: like because I was three levels down in a basement.
Speaker 3: It was black, and I'm like, oh, no, like, this
Speaker 3: is it, this is it. It's parted greeting. But I
Speaker 3: waved my hand and the lights went back on. But
Speaker 3: but in general, we wanted to stick with the good guys.
Speaker 3: Provide a book to learn, uh, to you know, grow
Speaker 3: to learn to love, to learn to connect with our spiritual.
Speaker 2: Team if you happen to in the eastern Pennsylvania area.
Speaker 2: On Sunday, June ninth, Scott is going to have a
Speaker 2: book signing for his book Looking for Angels. Scott, want
Speaker 2: to tell us a little bit more about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's gonna be at Barnes and Noble. It's based
Speaker 3: on the corner of It's in Eastern Pennsylvania, and we
Speaker 3: were taking I was talking with the community coordinator there
Speaker 3: and we set it up where every hour it's going
Speaker 3: to be from eleven to two Barnes and Noble, Eastern
Speaker 3: Eastern Pennsylvania, and every hour I'm going to have a
Speaker 3: brief discussion on why angels Why now, you know, talking
Speaker 3: about different trends, why why. I think a book like
Speaker 3: this and other resources that helps people connect with their
Speaker 3: spirit team is important now in the world and in
Speaker 3: our country.
Speaker 2: It's a very comprehensive book that you two wrote.
Speaker 3: Yes, we wanted to be We wanted it to be
Speaker 3: a guide for all wherever a person is in their journey.
Speaker 3: I mean a lot of my friends are engineers and
Speaker 3: very analytical background and they want to start at zero.
Speaker 3: You know, Okay, what does the Bible say? What does
Speaker 3: the biblical traditions say? And then I have a chapter
Speaker 3: in there about what does science have to say about angels?
Speaker 3: What does psychology have to say? And then getting into
Speaker 3: modern day angels, and then we have resources and meditations.
Speaker 3: So it's really meant to be a guidebook. It's not
Speaker 3: a novel in that sense. But you can kind of
Speaker 3: go back, and people have told us this since it's
Speaker 3: been released, that they go back. Sometimes they want to
Speaker 3: zero in on archangels. Sometimes they want to look at
Speaker 3: what science says. So but yeah, thank you. It is
Speaker 3: comprehensive and it's meant to be a guide to refer
Speaker 3: to time and time again.
Speaker 2: My first exposure to angels was when my mother sat
Speaker 2: me down around Chriss when I was a little boy
Speaker 2: to watch the movie with her. It's a Wonderful Life
Speaker 2: with Jimmy Stewart.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And I will.
Speaker 2: Never ever forget that movie. I still try to watch
Speaker 2: it every year. I've got it on DVD. And you know,
Speaker 2: it had to do with Clarence the angel who saved
Speaker 2: Jimmy Stewart's life, who was contemplating suicide because of some
Speaker 2: bank failure, and you know, people were blaming him for it.
Speaker 2: It wasn't his fault, but he was so depressed he
Speaker 2: was ready to jump into the river in Bedford Falls
Speaker 2: and kill himself. Well, the angels from above had a
Speaker 2: little meeting and they decided to send Clarence down to
Speaker 2: save Jimmy. And they basically told Clarence, you pull this off,
Speaker 2: you get your wings. And Clarence ended up in the
Speaker 2: water of the river looking like he was drowning, and
Speaker 2: Jimmy Stewart jumped in the water rather than to kill
Speaker 2: himself to save Clarence pulled them out, and then the
Speaker 2: movie became the movie. And yeah, I'll never forget that
Speaker 2: angel angelic experience.
Speaker 3: And that's what a big point of ours that we
Speaker 3: want to make is that anyone can get to that
Speaker 3: level where angelic and your spirit team involvement is as
Speaker 3: detailed and as impactful as that, like now in your life.
Speaker 3: It's not a movie. You know, it's real and it
Speaker 3: can happen. And we've got in our book we have
Speaker 3: seventeen angel stories about different scenarios very similar to that
Speaker 3: modern day people doing going around doing things, getting into
Speaker 3: trouble or needing to learn something, and it's a spirit
Speaker 3: led kind of journey of healing for them.
Speaker 2: Tell us another one of your favorite angel stories. You've
Speaker 2: got two minutes to do it, okay.
Speaker 3: So the one I the one of the ones I
Speaker 3: picked was an Angel Runner, and that's the title. And
Speaker 3: it was about a woman who was about ready to
Speaker 3: get divorced and she was very angry at her husband.
Speaker 3: But every day she would go out for a run.
Speaker 3: And so she was running one day and she was just,
Speaker 3: you know, just going over and over her mind in
Speaker 3: her mind how she hated her husband and he did this,
Speaker 3: and he did that, and all the things that got
Speaker 3: her angry. And so she was moving going along and
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, images of all the things
Speaker 3: that she had done wrong in the relationship appeared in
Speaker 3: her mind, so igh, you know, just flashes of scenarios,
Speaker 3: and it got her very upset, and so she kind
Speaker 3: of was praying about it, and she got the feeling like, well,
Speaker 3: you know, God forgives me on these about these things,
Speaker 3: so you know, I'm okay. Then she met a man running,
Speaker 3: and she didn't usually run with someone, but this man
Speaker 3: ran with her for a while. They got the talking,
Speaker 3: and then before they parted ways, he said, well, you know, thanks.
Speaker 3: You know, hopefully we'll meet again. And he says, oh,
Speaker 3: one more thing. God wants you to try forgiveness. And
Speaker 3: she said what And he said, God wants you to
Speaker 3: try forgiveness just like God has forgiven you. And so
Speaker 3: that you know the same type of story, he was
Speaker 3: a al Yes, she said, I didn't even look back
Speaker 3: because I knew he wouldn't be there. But that's the
Speaker 3: type of involvement that is available to us now.
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