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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast. George Noriy with you,

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Speaker 2: Doctor Scott garn with us his book that he wrote

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Speaker 2: with Nicole Bigley, Looking for Angels. Scott, in your opinion,

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Speaker 2: give me a definition of what you think angels might be.

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Speaker 3: Well, Angels generally are described as energetic beings. There is

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Speaker 3: some controversy if they have a will of their own,

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Speaker 3: a free will or not, depending on what religious sector

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Speaker 3: and tradition you look at, but they're certainly energetic beings.

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Speaker 3: One thing that I think is missed by a lot

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Speaker 3: of people is that there are different species than humans

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Speaker 3: in a sense. Obviously, they're spiritual and they're not physical

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Speaker 3: all the time. But as far as the religious texts go,

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Speaker 3: and I'm talking to world religions, they all kind of

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Speaker 3: say that the angels will created separate from the universe,

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Speaker 3: you know in the beginning, So they are separate, not

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Speaker 3: they were never incarnated, you know, as people. So they're

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Speaker 3: they're here to serve God, source the universe, and us

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Speaker 3: through our journey.

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Speaker 2: I've always wondered if the Biblical story of fallen angels

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Speaker 2: has anything to do with extraterrestrials that kind of presence,

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Speaker 2: and that they somehow got the two a little confused.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, if you look at the apocryphal Old Testament

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Speaker 3: or Hebrew Biblical Book Enoch, I think one and two,

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Speaker 3: there's some pretty wild scenarios there about you know, spirit

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Speaker 3: you know, coming down and interacting with humans and that

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Speaker 3: type of thing. So it does kind of get a

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Speaker 3: little blurry at times. And certainly the uh, the creation

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Speaker 3: of archangel uh, the devil archangel Lucifer, and then his

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Speaker 3: loss to archangel Michael to be cast out of heaven.

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Speaker 3: It could be you know, but it's you know, in

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Speaker 3: my my perspective, it's speculation.

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Speaker 2: I have my own angel story, Scott. I'll tell you

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Speaker 2: next hour about that. I've talked about it on the

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Speaker 2: year before. But it's truly unbelievable. And he was putting

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Speaker 2: another book. Uh, it's just something else. But the communications

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Speaker 2: with angels, do we pray to them?

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Speaker 3: Well, Uh, if you want to call prayer, you want

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Speaker 3: to call intention, you want to call talking, you want

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Speaker 3: to call feeling. You know, it's uh, it's you know,

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Speaker 3: in my perspective, it doesn't matter. You know, there is

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Speaker 3: some there is some in the in the New Testament,

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Speaker 3: there's some warnings about you shouldn't worship angels and only God.

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Speaker 3: But you know, it's it gets to be in a sense.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't really matter in a sense because all beings,

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Speaker 3: you know, point back to God, you know, source universe,

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Speaker 3: and we're all kind of components of that. So certainly

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Speaker 3: praying to an angel is certainly fine, especially in times

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Speaker 3: of need, and you know that's how we do things.

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Speaker 3: And so the other thing too is that words may

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Speaker 3: you know, it's some many times communication with spirit beings

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Speaker 3: or angels not not always in words. It could be feelings,

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Speaker 3: it could be telepathy in that way, but absolutely, you know,

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Speaker 3: highly recommended.

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Speaker 2: When you started writing about angels, did anything happen to

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Speaker 2: you spiritually?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean, you know, my whole world kind

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Speaker 3: of uh expanded in two ways. One is that uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, a year ago, Uh, you know, I would

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Speaker 3: somebody said do you have a spirit team, I would

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Speaker 3: say no. And if they said do you have any

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Speaker 3: psychic senses? I would say no, I don't have a

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Speaker 3: psychic sense and not psychic bone in my body. And

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Speaker 3: that's when when I got together with Nicole to write

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Speaker 3: this book out the you know, she has been running

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Speaker 3: a podcast called a Psychic Story for five years, and

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Speaker 3: I reached out to her, uh to you know, see

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Speaker 3: if she would be interested in being a co author

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Speaker 3: a frequent guest. But through that, you know, year, every

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Speaker 3: And the next morning, in my mind's eye, very real,

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Speaker 3: us on bike rides in the summers, and he my

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Speaker 3: father certainly is the most important person in my life

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Speaker 3: and now in my life. But Bob was a teacher

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Speaker 3: at heart, and that's what I craved, and so I

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Speaker 3: got very involved in him. He passed in twenty fifteen

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Speaker 3: from mesothelioma. And one day I was just driving on

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Speaker 3: And I said to him when he said, oh, I

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Speaker 3: Why don't you call it? Blah blah blah. So, you know,

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Speaker 3: three months ago, I'm driving by there a restaurant, and

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Speaker 3: I hear in his voice, I was there, I told you,

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Speaker 3: And then I kind of like went with it. I've

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Speaker 3: kind of, you know, felt like, well, maybe that was

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Speaker 3: something that he would have said, but no, it was

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Speaker 2: Well, clearly you heard it as if you were sitting

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Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely absolutely, and so I just you know, I

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Speaker 3: put the intention out please, you know, help me to

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Speaker 3: connect more with Bob. And he's kind of been a

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Speaker 2: And he was very influential when you were a kid.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, absolutely stayed.

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Speaker 2: In touch with him. That's interesting and admirable as well.

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Speaker 2: A lot of teachers just move on, Scott.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, it's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Now you don't, don't You don't write about demons in

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Speaker 2: your book Home.

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Speaker 3: No, well, I thought about that for a long time,

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Speaker 3: and you know, and uh, and then I decided against

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Speaker 3: want to we want to have hope, We want to

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Speaker 3: we decided to stay away from that. Uh. A funny

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Speaker 3: know when you walk down there, you walk in and

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Speaker 3: but in general, we wanted to stick with the good guys.

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Speaker 3: Provide a book to learn, uh, to you know, grow

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Speaker 3: to learn to love, to learn to connect with our spiritual.

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Speaker 2: Team if you happen to in the eastern Pennsylvania area.

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Speaker 2: On Sunday, June ninth, Scott is going to have a

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Speaker 2: book signing for his book Looking for Angels. Scott, want

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Speaker 2: to tell us a little bit more about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's gonna be at Barnes and Noble. It's based

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Speaker 3: Eastern Pennsylvania, and every hour I'm going to have a

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Speaker 3: brief discussion on why angels Why now, you know, talking

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Speaker 3: this and other resources that helps people connect with their

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Speaker 2: It's a very comprehensive book that you two wrote.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we wanted to be We wanted it to be

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Speaker 3: a guide for all wherever a person is in their journey.

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Speaker 3: I mean a lot of my friends are engineers and

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Speaker 3: So it's really meant to be a guidebook. It's not

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Speaker 3: what science says. So but yeah, thank you. It is

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Speaker 2: My first exposure to angels was when my mother sat

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Speaker 2: Never ever forget that movie. I still try to watch

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Speaker 3: And that's what a big point of ours that we

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Speaker 3: It's not a movie. You know, it's real and it

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Speaker 3: can happen. And we've got in our book we have

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Speaker 3: modern day people doing going around doing things, getting into

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Speaker 3: trouble or needing to learn something, and it's a spirit

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Speaker 2: Tell us another one of your favorite angel stories. You've

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Speaker 2: got two minutes to do it, okay.

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Speaker 3: So the one I the one of the ones I

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Speaker 3: picked was an Angel Runner, and that's the title. And

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Speaker 3: it was about a woman who was about ready to

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Speaker 3: get divorced and she was very angry at her husband.

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Speaker 3: But every day she would go out for a run.

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Speaker 3: And so she was running one day and she was just,

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Speaker 3: you know, just going over and over her mind in

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Speaker 3: her mind how she hated her husband and he did this,

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Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, images of all the things

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Speaker 3: and it got her very upset, and so she kind

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Speaker 3: of was praying about it, and she got the feeling like, well,

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Speaker 3: you know, God forgives me on these about these things,

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Speaker 3: so you know, I'm okay. Then she met a man running,

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Speaker 3: and she didn't usually run with someone, but this man

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Speaker 3: ran with her for a while. They got the talking,

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Speaker 3: and then before they parted ways, he said, well, you know, thanks.

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Speaker 3: You know, hopefully we'll meet again. And he says, oh,

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Speaker 3: one more thing. God wants you to try forgiveness. And

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Speaker 3: she said what And he said, God wants you to

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Speaker 3: try forgiveness just like God has forgiven you. And so

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Speaker 3: that you know the same type of story, he was

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Speaker 3: a al Yes, she said, I didn't even look back

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Speaker 3: because I knew he wouldn't be there. But that's the

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