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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Fox Football Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here with

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Speaker 2: Carmen Vitale. Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon with us.

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Speaker 2: Carmi happy divisional round weekend.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. It's still a busy one here in Chicago,

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Speaker 1: which is different CARMEI.

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Speaker 2: It's on like Donkey Kong Me Baby La for Chicago.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna break that down a little later in the show.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna actually go through each of these games. We

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Speaker 2: got Bills and Broncos kicking off here in about thirty minutes,

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Speaker 2: and then forty nine Ers at Seahawks rematch of the

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Speaker 2: year happening tonight. But yeah, a couple things I think

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Speaker 2: are gonna be a bigger factor than people are talking

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Speaker 2: about tomorrow. Obviously, Texans at Patriots and the Rams at

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Speaker 2: the Bears.

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Speaker 3: I am so excited for that. Should we do like

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Speaker 3: a bet Ooh?

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, I'm always so bad at coming up.

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Speaker 2: With when we get to it. Let's also put that

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Speaker 2: out there if anyone's listening right now. Obviously, I'm born

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Speaker 2: and raised La. Karmi is born and raised Chicago. I'm

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Speaker 2: in La. She's in Chicago. Uh, and it's going to

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Speaker 2: be a lay for Chicago. So let's think of a

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Speaker 2: fun bet that we should do.

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Speaker 3: If LA wins, then.

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Speaker 2: KARMI gotta do it obviously, and then Chicago wins, I

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Speaker 2: gotta do something.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it does it matter that? Does it matter that

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Speaker 1: I'm not predicting the Bears to win this?

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Speaker 3: Gid give that away?

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Speaker 1: Yet?

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Speaker 3: Did you just give away the bits?

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Speaker 1: That's not giving it away? I mean I picked against

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Speaker 1: the Bears in the walk round. Yeah, but again, they

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Speaker 1: had to come back. It was mabe do.

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Speaker 2: If they if they if they win, that's what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: It's not gonna be it's gonna be like one of

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Speaker 2: those crazy late game comebacks like they always do.

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Speaker 3: Because that's just that's just who they are.

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Speaker 1: I keep thinking, it's not gonna happen. That's just who

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Speaker 1: I keep thinking. Hey, it's the playoffs. You can't get

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Speaker 1: away with that in the playoffs. Yeah, apparently against the

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Speaker 1: Degreen Bay Packers. That was an a divisional game, though

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Speaker 1: those are those are weird. We'll see, we'll see, coo,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk more about divisional round.

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Speaker 3: It's also weird.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna get to that a little later also

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Speaker 2: hottest coach on the market. It became officially official. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk about Harbaugh and New York.

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Speaker 3: We got the Natty going down in Miami on Monday.

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Speaker 2: We got a couple of great guests today, forty nine

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Speaker 2: ers beat report to Tracy Sandler is going to be

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Speaker 2: joining us live from the game in about thirty minutes.

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Speaker 2: Then we have the host of the Athletic Football Show,

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Speaker 2: Dave Hellman in hour two to break down all the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: We got producer both US Today Technical producer Chris and

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Speaker 2: Martin Wise at the news desk.

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Speaker 1: You can respectfully disagree.

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Speaker 2: So let's get into it, and let's start with the

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Speaker 2: Saturday divisional round. Bill's at Broncos kicking off here in

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Speaker 2: about thirty minutes. And you guys, this is a revenge game.

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Speaker 2: It feels like for the Broncos. The last time they

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Speaker 2: the wildcard round.

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Speaker 3: And bo Nicks is one and only playoff game.

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Speaker 2: He now has another season of experience under his bell.

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Speaker 2: Him and Sean Payton are gelling like and clicking on

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Speaker 2: all cylinders, but they're facing the ragning MVP and Josh

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Speaker 2: Allen a team with a lot of playoff experience with

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Speaker 2: I believe his legacy on the line here right.

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Speaker 3: He's never made it to a super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: He just won his first road playoff game last weekend,

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Speaker 2: and he put that team on his back.

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Speaker 3: Like they scored with a minute left in the game.

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Speaker 2: They got lucky that Trevor Lawrence through that interception to

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Speaker 2: end the game, Like that was Josh Allen took a beating.

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Speaker 2: He like I said, he put this team on his back.

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Speaker 2: Proved why he's the MVP. But I think all the

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Speaker 1: It is because, I mean, the reason that the Bills

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Speaker 1: into the playoffs. So division wise, this is really interesting

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Speaker 1: for a lot of reasons because the Denver Broncos obviously

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Speaker 1: and they have perhaps the best defensive unit outside of

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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans in the league. And this year has

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Speaker 1: though he's been better under pressure this year. But that's

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Speaker 1: something that the Bills offensive line has essentially not done

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen as many favors as maybe they have in

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Speaker 1: the past. But that game against the Jaguars, Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: twelve for one hundred and forty four yards when facing pressure,

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. But that's also a strength for the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: We talk a lot about this defensive front, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna not talk about them. But you have guys

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Speaker 1: on the like you have patz Ortan on the outside

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Speaker 1: of this Broncos defense as the best corner, one of

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Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about guys like Zach Allen, Nick Benito,

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Speaker 1: both of them have generated multiple pressures in every game

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Speaker 1: of the regular season. That's wild. They were two of

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Speaker 1: they were on the same team.

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Speaker 1: Like, that's what you're talking about when you're talking. I mean,

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Speaker 1: these these teams did not get here by accident. The

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Speaker 1: so it really is going to be I hope the

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Speaker 1: You have to find ways to mitigate that pressure that

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Speaker 3: That can't happen tonight.

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Speaker 1: You need to stay multiple against this Broncos defense because

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Speaker 1: otherwise they will just pin their ears back and go

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Speaker 2: But I mean, it feels like it's Super Bowl or

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Speaker 2: bust for Josh Allen and the Bills. And I still

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Speaker 2: think Sean McDermott could be coaching for his job. I

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Speaker 2: know I said this like the last few weeks. But

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Speaker 2: the Bills, I don't want to say they have things

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Speaker 2: like they weren't much of a competition this year obviously,

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Speaker 2: but like years past, they've knocked him out for the

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Speaker 2: last five seasons. But they're facing a future Hall of

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Speaker 2: Fame coach in Sean Payton who has the playoff experience.

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Speaker 2: Now his team might not have the playoff experience, but

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Speaker 3: He's nine to nine in the playoffs. So it's just

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Speaker 3: like you look at it and.

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Speaker 2: It says, does Josh Allen and the Bills have enough

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean they do, That's the thing, and that's

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Speaker 1: why the expectations are so high. And for you know,

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Speaker 1: their run defense wasn't good, but they figured out a lot.

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Speaker 1: We talked to Maddi lab what was that last week

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Speaker 1: don't have any excuses, and yes they are like I said,

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Speaker 1: they're going against one of the best defenses in the league.

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Speaker 1: But for the amount of times that they have been

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Speaker 1: for having the Super Bowl or the league MVP under center,

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Speaker 1: you have, this is your time. And yeah, the usual

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Speaker 1: it's not an accident that they're here in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: But you know, this has been the expectation for years

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Speaker 1: I mean it might not be fair. I think Sean

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Speaker 1: McDermott is an excellent coaches, but sometimes if it doesn't

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Speaker 1: work out time after time, season after season, where Super

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Speaker 1: that you have to part ways. We've seen this happen

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Speaker 1: After actually making the Super Bowl in Philadelphia two years later,

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Speaker 1: he's gone. I mean, John Harbaugh.

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Speaker 3: Made Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 1: Like this coaching cycle in particular.

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Speaker 3: It's clearly top tier coaches.

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Speaker 1: Clearly owners are not afraid to part ways with longtime coaches.

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Speaker 1: I believe Sean McDermott is the third longest tenured coach

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Speaker 1: in the league right now. Okay, so again that also

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Speaker 1: that that's an accomplishment for sure, But then it's also

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Speaker 1: a testament to like, how much longer are like how

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Speaker 1: much longer are you going to be able to be

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Speaker 1: there without a Super Bowl success?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: When you look at this Broncos team, They've been one

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Speaker 2: of the hottest teams in the league. They've only lost

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Speaker 2: one game since September and that was to the Jags

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Speaker 2: in Week sixteen, and as we said, like Sean Payton

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Speaker 2: is one of the all time great coaches. He's been

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Speaker 2: telling us like since he drafted bo Nicks, like how great.

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Speaker 3: He is going to be? Hi, Mazie, Mazie. That's all.

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Speaker 1: We're home alone with each other today, so I can't.

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Speaker 1: I can't like shove him in another room otherwise he'll whine.

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Speaker 1: I get it, I get it.

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Speaker 2: But bo Nicks has been a top guy, top ten

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Speaker 2: and passing yards and touchdown passes. I've also, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 2: like top defense. But my question, is this Broncos team

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Speaker 2: for real? Like can we say yes? I think we

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Speaker 2: can say yes, like this is it this like they

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Speaker 2: are for real?

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Speaker 1: They are? And I get that having that CA conversation

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Speaker 1: because of bo Nicks and how he has been a

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Speaker 1: because I think that Bonix was held back a little

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Speaker 2: Yep, Okay, let's get to the second game, forty nine

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Speaker 3: This is gonna be spyya.

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Speaker 2: Seattle just beat the forty nine Ers two weeks ago

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Speaker 3: Four Ninders didn't even score touchdown and that was a game.

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Speaker 3: But a couple of big things to note here.

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Speaker 2: Okay, One, Brock Party has never lost in Seattle, Kyle

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Speaker 1: Well, I just I couldn't believe it because you just

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Speaker 1: I was just talking about the Broncos and how they're built.

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Speaker 3: George Kittle.

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Speaker 1: They just lost George Kittle, and I mean listen the

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Speaker 2: Okay, so next question here, then, who has more to lose?

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Speaker 2: I think it's Sam Darnold. And here's why forty nine

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: You just talked about all.

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Speaker 2: The injuries they had. Is kind of insane when you

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Speaker 2: No one expected them to have to be here right now,

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Speaker 2: right brock Perty, he does have the playoff experience and

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Speaker 3: Gonna see that.

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Speaker 2: But I think Sam Donald has more to lose here

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Speaker 2: because he's never won a playoff game, right, and we've

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Speaker 2: it will be the excuse if they don't get it

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Speaker 3: But it's just you have to question.

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Speaker 2: Can he be that guy in the playoffs if he

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Speaker 1: It's interesting, like I don't see that at all because

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Speaker 1: but I mean, this is still very much a team

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Speaker 1: so many people that picked the Seahawks to finish fourth

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Speaker 1: It worked really well. It worked better than anybody could

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Speaker 1: have thought. And so I'm not going to say that

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Speaker 3: I'm excited for that.

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Speaker 2: KARMI be happy you weren't just here in studio. I

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Speaker 2: just had like a full like I'm in a glass

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Speaker 2: box of emotions. I was like, it's really hot in

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, who did that?

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Speaker 3: Who would do that?

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Speaker 1: That?

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Speaker 2: That is that's cruel. That's absolutely cruel. Thank for cool

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Speaker 1: What type ofature do you? What temperature do you leave us?

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Speaker 3: Ice box?

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Speaker 2: The lowest it goes year round in my house, in

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Speaker 1: My my thermostat I mean, granted I'm in Chicago and

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Speaker 1: So well, for sure, that's why I love it, and

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Speaker 2: It's the best, all right, KARMEI, it's officially official. John

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Speaker 2: Habba is headed to the New York Giants. Can he

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Speaker 2: help this franchise? And we knew he was going to

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Speaker 2: think it's going to be a good fit for Harbaugh

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Speaker 2: in the Giants to see what he did with the

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Speaker 2: this is a guy who let Saquon Barkley go paid

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Speaker 3: Do you think it's gonna work?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if it's going to you, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: work with a guy like John Harbaugh. And that was

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Speaker 1: the biggest thing. That was why this deal kind of

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Speaker 1: trickled down and finally you got the statement from John

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh himself today. But what was interesting is Ian O'Connor

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Speaker 1: was reporting John Harbaugh to me on his position in

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Speaker 1: Shane of command with Giants. I report to John Merra.

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Speaker 1: He says that he's really enjoyed Joe Shane and looks

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Speaker 1: forward to forming a great partnership with Joe. But this

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Speaker 1: was also the reason that John Harbaugh could go to

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants. It was a really like I

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Speaker 1: think there was a lot of people, especially up this way,

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Speaker 1: who were like, well, should the Packers fire Matt Lafleur? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: who else were you gonna get? You were gonna get

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Speaker 1: John Harbaugh because you were never going to seed personnel

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Speaker 1: control to John Harball when you have Brian Goodenkountz, who's

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Speaker 1: done nothing to warrant being demoted in that organization. So

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Speaker 1: there were already only a very few, I feel like

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Speaker 1: situations that fit for John Harbaugh in general. But when

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Speaker 1: you're at a place for eighteen years, I mean, it

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Speaker 1: did something right. You won a Super Bowl like you had,

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Speaker 1: You had a lot of say and control in that organization,

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Speaker 1: and that organization, for all intents and purposes, is a

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Speaker 1: very good one. It's one that has been competitive year

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Speaker 1: in and year out. You have a multiple multi year

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Speaker 1: MVP under center, and you were part of that of

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Speaker 1: drafting him and developing him and all of that kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff. So I think that this was this was

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Speaker 1: a home run for the New York Giants because if

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Speaker 1: you look at what they have, they have a young

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Speaker 1: quarterback in Jackson Dart that they believe in. They have

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Speaker 1: a really good defensive line and like defensive cornerstone pieces

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Speaker 1: that they can build around.

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Speaker 3: Don't and you have pick in the draft.

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Speaker 1: You yes, and then you have you have high draft capital.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even talk about Molik Neighbors, who will be

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Speaker 1: coming back from injury in this next season coming right.

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Speaker 3: He's ready for I mean he.

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Speaker 1: He tore his a cl what halfway through the season

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Speaker 1: or just about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not bad, but not the best timeline.

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Speaker 1: No, but theoretically, because he's young and this and that

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Speaker 1: and the other, you should you could you could conceivably

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Speaker 1: see him being ready for the start of the season

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Speaker 1: or at least early in the season for the New

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Speaker 1: York Giants. Regardless, you have and you have my guy

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Speaker 1: camp'skataboo who is you know, tweetled and tweeled dumb between

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Speaker 1: Jackson Dart and Cam's gataboo over there. So that's a

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Speaker 1: that's a there's good offensive pieces.

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Speaker 3: They need an line though, they need.

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Speaker 1: They need multiple alignment. I would say they have a

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Speaker 1: couple of good ones, but they need to be a

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Speaker 1: lot better. You you. Still there's some stuff as far

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Speaker 1: as like second and third levels of the defense that

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Speaker 1: that need to be short of, but again you have

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Speaker 1: foundational pieces that are there, and now you have a

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Speaker 1: guy that knows how this goes. What's interesting to me

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Speaker 1: though about this whole thing, is that the job that

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Speaker 1: John Harbaugh vacated or that was fired from is the

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Speaker 1: best job available that a head coach could possibly want.

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Speaker 1: Very very rarely do you get a franchise that has,

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Speaker 1: again a multi time MVP winner under center, a guy

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Speaker 1: like Derrick Henry in your offensive backfield, a good defense still.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're not the most dominating like Ravens defenses

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Speaker 1: that we've seen of the past, but still a good

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Speaker 1: defense and a good, stable organization that has proven that

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Speaker 1: they're not trigger happy because their last coach was there

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Speaker 1: for eighteen years. That is such a rare opportunity and

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Speaker 1: I'm so interested to see what direction they go because

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Speaker 1: that is the best job available right now.

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Speaker 3: It's great, and we've seen the season.

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Speaker 2: A head coach can come in and completely turn a

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Speaker 2: franchise around in the first year we saw for seeing

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Speaker 2: Ben Johnson, Mike Rayball. So this is a guy who

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Speaker 2: knows how to win. I'm excited for him. But we'll see,

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Speaker 2: we'll see if he is the missing piece in New York.

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Speaker 2: But now it's checking with Martin Wise and see what's trending.

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Speaker 4: You guys just talked about it.

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Speaker 7: John Harball, the new head coach of the New York Giants,

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Speaker 7: to do reportedly twenty million dollars a year, making in

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Speaker 7: one of the highest paid coaches in the league, and

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Speaker 7: some interesting negotiations dragged on for several days.

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Speaker 4: You remember Adam Jeffter reporting this a few days.

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Speaker 7: Ago saying it was almost done, and then it obviously

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Speaker 7: wasn't almost done because a few days went by. Well,

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Speaker 7: apparently that was about how much authority Harball would have

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Speaker 7: relative to GM Joe Shane, who retained his job after

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Speaker 7: Brian Dave Wall was fired.

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Speaker 4: All harbwallt's really secrying a.

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Speaker 7: Setup where he reports directly to co owner John Morrow,

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Speaker 7: which is basically kind of the same thing he had

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Speaker 7: going on in Baltimore right now. Sean Payton being interviewed

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Speaker 7: by Tracy Wolfson on the sideline.

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Speaker 4: I don't know I know.

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Speaker 7: The cold Weather game is supposed to be a Chicago

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Speaker 7: Sean looks pretty cold.

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Speaker 1: It's apparently really cold Decenver. I'm gonna look up what

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Speaker 1: it is because yeah, it's our friend Bridget Condon is

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Speaker 1: there and she she posted it. She was like, it's

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Speaker 1: a lot colder than they told me it was gonna be.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I'm looking at Sean's Peyton knows is bright red.

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Speaker 7: Not quite coughlin f but it's it's definitely right.

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Speaker 1: It's thirty five right now, which to me isn't bad.

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Speaker 1: But to say if there's there's only three mile an

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Speaker 1: hour winds too, I don't know.

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Speaker 7: Did you know why we we were talking about this

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Speaker 7: earlier this week because I was experienced more weather than

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Speaker 7: I normally do.

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Speaker 1: I was in Chicago, Martin and I sat down for

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Speaker 1: some drinks in Chicago this week.

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Speaker 3: We did so.

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Speaker 7: But like, you have the weather, but then what it

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Speaker 7: actually feels like it's too it could be too entirely different.

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Speaker 3: Why just say what it feels like because that's what

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Speaker 3: it is.

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Speaker 1: I'm just going it's the wind, but it's like like

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Speaker 1: three to seven mile an hour winds, So I don't

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Speaker 1: even think that that should be. And it's sunny. When

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Speaker 1: it's sunny too, that's good for another ten degrees.

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Speaker 4: Maybe Sean just had to blow.

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Speaker 1: He was also in the shade too, so that could

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Speaker 1: be true.

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Speaker 7: True, all right, quickly here, that game just kicked off.

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Speaker 7: Green Bay Packers keepers, according to Jeff Hafley, merged for

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Speaker 7: your front runner for the Dolphins job. The Dolphins general

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Speaker 7: manager John Eric Sullivan was previously the Packers vice president

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Speaker 7: of player personnel. Broncos I'm sorry, former Browns head coach

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Speaker 7: Kevin Stefanski front runner for the Atlanta Falcons head coaching job.

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Speaker 7: The Raiders will interview former Dolphins head coach Mike me

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Speaker 7: Daniel for their head coaching job on Monday, and the

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Speaker 7: Browns interview Jaguars offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 4: Great Yudinski for their head coaching job.

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Speaker 7: Just turned thirty, they'll become the youngest head coach in

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Speaker 7: NFL history if he gets the job.

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Speaker 4: Right now, A bill down on the kickoff return.

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Speaker 3: You see it, player head to head of tough hit there.

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Speaker 7: I'm not sure the bill that's down for right now.

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Speaker 7: The game and an injury time out. When it comes out,

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Speaker 7: the Broncos will have the ball.

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Speaker 4: Alex and Carmen Back to you guys.

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Speaker 3: Thank you Martin.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Football Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here

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Speaker 2: at Carmen Vitalite. Thank you for spending your Saturday Football

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Speaker 2: Saturday after you would car me and me.

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Speaker 3: It is time for our first guest. You know are

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Speaker 3: she's the best d of the show.

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Speaker 2: Forty nine ers beat reporter the owner of Fangirl Sports Network,

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Speaker 2: Tracy Sandler, Thanks for joining us live from Seattle.

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Speaker 1: Hi, Jerse, Hi, guys.

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Speaker 8: How you doing?

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Speaker 2: H We're great, but set the stage for us. What's

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Speaker 2: the vibe like around the city and pregame right now?

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Speaker 9: It is there's a lot of excitement around this city.

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Speaker 9: On my way to the stadium, I saw all the twelves,

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Speaker 9: I mean so many felves in all of their jerseys.

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Speaker 9: The stadium is buzzing. For lack of a betteritor, but honestly,

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Speaker 9: the whole city has been buzzing, and the Seahawks have

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Speaker 9: not been good like this in a very long time.

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Speaker 9: This rivalry is so bad, so it's really fun to

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Speaker 9: be here right now.

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Speaker 1: What are you hearing is the latest with Sam Darnold

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Speaker 1: right now? He's as he emerged for warm ups yet, Like,

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Speaker 1: what's going on.

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Speaker 9: I haven't seen him emerge for warm ups yet, but

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Speaker 9: I am in the tunnel so that it's quite when.

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Speaker 8: I talk to you guys.

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Speaker 9: So I haven't seen him emerge yet. Sounds like he

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Speaker 9: will at least start to game and play.

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Speaker 8: Just depends how limited he will be. It's kind of

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Speaker 8: a funny.

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Speaker 9: It's not funny, ha ha, but kind of because brock

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Speaker 9: Perty's first road game was here in Seattle, the rib

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Speaker 9: game where he had an injured rib. He had not

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Speaker 9: thrown all week, he threw in pregame warm ups, and

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Speaker 9: then he had a heck of a game in the

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Speaker 9: four Nuinars one. So now the Seahawks, I guess, get

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Speaker 9: their oblique games to rival the rib game.

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Speaker 8: So we'll see.

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Speaker 10: But yeah, so it was kind of funny.

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed the first time they really got to They

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Speaker 1: got to play with their chest.

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Speaker 9: They got to play it with their chest, something we

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Speaker 9: could throw with a battle bleak or a bad rib.

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Speaker 9: But I said earlier, I think there's a higher likelihood

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Speaker 9: I play than Sam Darnold doesn't play.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's the case.

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Speaker 2: Now brock Purty has never lost in Seattle, and Kyle

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Speaker 2: Shanahan has watched the NFC championship game every time he's

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Speaker 2: made the playoffs as the forty nine ers head coach.

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Speaker 2: But so even with all your injuries and you got

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Speaker 2: a couple of big ones, obviously George Kittle last game,

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Speaker 2: how confident is this team kind of heading into this

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Speaker 2: revenge game.

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Speaker 10: The team is extremely confidant.

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Speaker 9: They feel like they can beat anybody. They feel like

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Speaker 9: they have the character, the talent, the perseverance.

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Speaker 10: And they have up to this point.

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Speaker 9: They really have accept this.

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Speaker 8: Team two weeks ago.

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Speaker 9: But other than that, they have shown they.

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Speaker 8: Can go on the road, they can do it.

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Speaker 9: This seems feels strongly that they can win this game,

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Speaker 9: and I would say at this point I wouldn't count

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Speaker 9: them out as anything. No matter what has happened, they.

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Speaker 8: Have overcome it. And I think a big reason for

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Speaker 8: that is the way that.

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Speaker 9: Kyle Shanninghan approached this season from the start of the offseason.

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Speaker 8: This is not super Bowl or bust. This is us

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Speaker 8: being the best team we can.

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Speaker 9: Beat every single week. So that when you lose Fread Warner,

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Speaker 9: when you lose Nickbosa, when you lose George Kittle, the

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Speaker 9: whole season is not over. I mean, it felt like

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Speaker 9: the Packers they lost Mikael Parsons and it was like,

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Speaker 9: well that's that. It felt like that was their vibe.

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Speaker 9: The forty nine ers are not that vibe.

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Speaker 1: All right. We'll talk to me then about though, the

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Speaker 1: adjustments that are going to be needed without George Kittle,

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Speaker 1: because I mean I watched that Bears Niners game very

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Speaker 1: closely that George Kittle was not part of and they

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Speaker 1: still managed to put up over thirty points. So what

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Speaker 1: is it that Kyle Shanahan is going to have to

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Speaker 1: do to her tone for the fact that he no

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Speaker 1: longer has Kittle out there.

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Speaker 9: Well, they're going to need Luke Ferrell to really step

665
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Speaker 9: up as a blocker and make up from there and

666
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Speaker 9: Jake Conscious as a path catcher, and both of them

667
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Speaker 9: have been.

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Speaker 8: Able to do that this season. But when you look early.

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Speaker 9: When this season, the forty nine Ers had a lot

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Speaker 9: of time, a lot of stubble establishing the run earlier

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Speaker 9: in this season without George Kittle, And that is a

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Speaker 9: concern today because for this game, they have got to

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Speaker 9: be able to run the football effectively. And if they

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Speaker 9: can't run the football effectively, they're.

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Speaker 8: Not going to have a chance to win this game.

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Speaker 8: So it's going to be big with Farrell.

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Speaker 9: They will have treat Williams.

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Speaker 10: So they did not have in this game a couple

679
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Speaker 10: of weeks ago. But those are the adjustments.

680
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Speaker 9: They're going to have to make, and they're going to

681
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Speaker 9: have to find ways.

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Speaker 8: To open up the run gate. It's the key. It's interesting,

683
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Speaker 8: it's really a.

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Speaker 10: Key football teams.

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Speaker 9: I mean, the forty Niners needs to stop a run

686
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Speaker 9: to Seadam needs to run the ball.

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Speaker 10: The fortinerds needs to run the ball, and I think

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Speaker 10: that is the key.

689
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 9: That and whether or not Sam Donald turns the ball

690
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 9: over will be the deciding factors this gig.

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Speaker 2: And I mean, as you said, I think we're all

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Speaker 2: under the oppression Sam Brownell is going to play. It's

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Speaker 2: just like, how strong of a Sam darn are we

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Speaker 2: going to get? How how has that kind of factored

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Speaker 2: into the way the forty nine ers are preparing right

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Speaker 2: now to face them.

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Speaker 10: Well, Kyle Shanahan said the other day, they are.

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Speaker 9: Not preparing any differently. They fully expect, aren't Sam Donald

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Speaker 9: to play and play at the level he's been playing

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Speaker 9: at it? And I think that's what they have to

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Speaker 9: do because chances are that's what's going to happen, and

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Speaker 9: so they haven't really changed their preparations.

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Speaker 8: It hasn't it hasn't.

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Speaker 9: Done too much because they expect them to play. I

705
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Speaker 9: mean it also, I think he really is hurt.

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Speaker 8: It's also revenge game.

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Speaker 9: It's a divisional realms, a little bit of you know,

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Speaker 9: there could be a little even pains and ship maybe.

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Speaker 10: I mean the key is for but this is all

710
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Speaker 10: part of it.

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Speaker 9: So they're planning on having the Sam Darnold who's been

712
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Speaker 9: playing all season for the Seahawks, of SAMs Darnald that

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Speaker 9: they do in San Francisco, coming out here, starting the

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Speaker 9: game and playing effectively. And that's how they're preparing for it.

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Speaker 1: Tracy, you said you're in the tunnel. I'm curious. I

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Speaker 1: am you are you in the visitors tunnel?

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Speaker 9: I am, I'm But the entire Seahawks cheerleading just came

718
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 9: walking by. I don't know if you could hear them,

719
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Speaker 9: but they were sparkling and so lovely, very happy.

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Speaker 1: They have They have some great uniforms just because like

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks have great uniforms, and I feel like the

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Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks cheerleaders get to have really great uniforms too,

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Speaker 1: and they're always so sparkly. But do me a favor. Uh,

724
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Speaker 1: do you know about the guy that sits in that

725
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Speaker 1: corner of that end zone or of that tunnel, the Heckler?

726
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Speaker 8: Four of him? I have seen him many many more.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, wait, share to everybody else here, So

728
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna.

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Speaker 1: Share to everybody else. So when I was with the Bucks,

730
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Speaker 1: we went up to Seattle, and it was the year

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Speaker 1: after Bruce arians had took the job, and he was

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Speaker 1: with the Cardinals before that, so he was very familiar

733
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Speaker 1: with going up to Seattle once a year. And there

734
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Speaker 1: is a fan, a Heckler that sits his season. Tickets

735
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Speaker 1: are in the corner, like the front corner of where

736
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Speaker 1: the visiting team comes out, and he is notorious for

737
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Speaker 1: the signs that they bring, for the things that he says.

738
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Speaker 1: And it was so much like Bruce ended up having

739
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Speaker 1: a legit like friendship with him by the end of this,

740
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Speaker 1: and like when we came back, but he came back

741
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Speaker 1: as part of the Buccaneers, and when we came back,

742
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Speaker 1: I witnessed those two just be like, it's nice to

743
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Speaker 1: see you again, Coach this, that the other. But it

744
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: is this. It is this guy's job, I swear and

745
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: tracing it. If you have any stories about him, I

746
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: would love to hear them.

747
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 9: But he has yelled at Kittle before. He and Kiddled

748
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 9: go back and forth all the time. He funks and

749
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Speaker 9: yelling at standing and and I think at this point

750
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Speaker 9: it's funny.

751
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Speaker 8: It's got me all got a respective.

752
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Speaker 9: I mean, this knitm it week after week, no matter

753
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 9: who they're playing, no matter how good or bad they are,

754
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 9: he stands it. He and Kiddle have definitely not gotten

755
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 9: into it, but they've had words in a very fun way.

756
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 9: He does it with everybody, and he's gotta laugh.

757
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Speaker 8: I mean he does it. He yelled it up sometimes and.

758
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 9: We're like, we're not on the team, we're reporters sometimes

759
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 9: and I kind of you know what, if he wasn't here,

760
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Speaker 9: he just wasn't all right, that'd be done, That's.

761
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Speaker 1: What I'm saying. So those cute little quirks from you know,

762
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Speaker 1: different stadiums around the league. He is absolutely a quirk of.

763
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Speaker 2: Oh we love that, Tracy. Have you seen a lot

764
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: of uh forty nine ers fans around town?

765
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Speaker 3: Did they travel? Did they?

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Speaker 9: I they do travel for well. I but my understanding

767
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Speaker 9: I sent from La so I didn't see as many there.

768
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Speaker 9: But my understanding is on the flights from SFO this morning. Yeah,

769
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Speaker 9: it was a sea of red with a lot of chance.

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Speaker 3: Okay, this is this is going to be a loud stadium.

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Speaker 9: It's a loud They will travel well, they will represent

772
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Speaker 9: the twelves. I keep calling them the twelve. I think

773
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 9: I've like bought into it.

774
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Speaker 8: But the Twelves will certainly be the authority of day.

775
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Speaker 7: You can't not.

776
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 9: I'm also staring while I do you. I'm staring at

777
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Speaker 9: a big twelve. It's like literally the number twelve I'm

778
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 9: looking at in Seattle Seahawks in the tule. But it

779
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 9: is their fan about that. But it will it'll be

780
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Speaker 9: They'll be red.

781
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Speaker 8: But it's going to be fun. I mean it's it.

782
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 9: Feels like that twenty fourteen NFC champion game here all

783
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 9: those years ago, and I expect.

784
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 10: It to be that kind of game. It should be

785
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 10: a lot of fun to.

786
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Speaker 8: Have a divisional rival in the divisional round game that

787
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 8: you've played two weeks ago.

788
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 10: Yes, I just went this season and now, I mean,

789
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 10: this is this is fun.

790
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Speaker 8: This is what football is all about ladies.

791
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Speaker 2: I'm so excited, Tracy. Thank you so much for joining

792
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: us live from the game. Have so much fun tonight.

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Speaker 3: We really appreciate to you.

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00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 8: Thanks you enjoyed the games, guys.

795
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Speaker 3: Bye, right when we come back.

796
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,160
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Speaker 3: All right, Carmie, it is time for the dues and

810
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 3: the don'ts in sports. H I love that putting a

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00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 3: spotlight on the don't The subject brings me no joy.

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Speaker 1: That's insane.

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Speaker 5: Next time for the dues and the don'ts in sports?

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm starting off with the do here? Do

815
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: put Steve Bishatti on the mic?

816
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 3: More please?

817
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: That was one of the most legendary pressers by an

818
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Speaker 2: owner that I can remember.

819
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Speaker 3: It was raw, it was honest. It was like straight

820
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Speaker 3: boss like.

821
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Speaker 2: When he was asked if Lamar would have a say

822
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Speaker 2: in their next coach, he said he respects his players

823
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Speaker 2: their opinion, he cares about their opinions, but they don't

824
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: have power.

825
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Speaker 3: I can't give them power. I have the power. It

826
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 3: was just like the most mic drop moment. But what

827
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Speaker 3: sent me over the edge.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you Carmi you heard it, but

829
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Speaker 2: the Pat McAfee made up this song that is an

830
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: absolute pot I've been it's been stuck in my head

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Speaker 2: all week.

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Speaker 3: I've posted it, I'll post it again.

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Speaker 11: It was on.

834
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 3: ESPN's we Can't Play It here, but.

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Speaker 10: It was.

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Speaker 2: Hall loaded loadesty bshoty owner on the mic.

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Speaker 3: He's better than everybody, bomb bomb boom. But it's like

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00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 3: it's so good. I can't get it out of my head.

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Speaker 1: It's it's like I make it a point of a

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00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: boarding filmed familiarity with most of what McAfee puts out.

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Speaker 3: There, but it's a bomb.

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00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: It was funny that it was like it just it

843
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: just kept going, like I saw the like one quote

844
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: and then it was like two minutes later I saw

845
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Speaker 1: another one. Was like you're still talking like she was beautiful,

846
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: and there was there was so many things to come

847
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: out of there. All Right, I have I have, I

848
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: have two DU's and they're the same du but they

849
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Speaker 1: apply to different things. Okay, all right, so go the

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Speaker 1: dow Is do lean in.

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Speaker 10: Okay.

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00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And the first way that I'm going to apply that

854
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: is with Ben Johnson and the Chicago Bears. More importantly

855
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson the Chicago Bears and their rivalry with the

856
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, because after the Bears won that game

857
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: in the Wildcard round last Saturday night, Ben Johnson showed,

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Speaker 1: first of all, I think he like fell over on

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Speaker 1: the field while he was like running off of the

860
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: field like he was very hyped. But then he got

861
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: into the locker room and I can't say any of

862
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 1: it on the radio, but he said, f the Packers

863
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: at that team hit those guys, Yeah, and he is

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00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: bringing it back capital h hate and as someone who

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Speaker 1: grew up in this city and in Chicago, grew up

866
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Speaker 1: with this rivalry. It has been so one sided for

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00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: so long. So not only is a true rivalry again

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Speaker 1: with the head coach buying into it, but there's there's

869
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: you're validated in talking that kind of mess because the

870
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: Bears knocked them out of the playoffs in the playoffs,

871
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: like it was. Just it's so hard for rivalries to

872
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: exist in today's NFL. So the fact that Ben Johnson

873
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: legitimately seems to hate Matt leflor on it and has

874
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: hated here for it his Detroit days. Yeah, as I

875
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: found out, it's I love it.

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00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 10: I love it.

877
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: I think there's be more of it.

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Speaker 3: I'm here for it, here for all of it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I got another du do keep being you, Fernando Mendoza, Baby,

880
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Speaker 2: I like I think the entire sports world is falling

881
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: in You better be falling in love with this man.

882
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 3: Have you heard about his LinkedIn account? Have you seen it?

883
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 3: Of course, this is a man baby who is going

884
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 3: to be a first overall pick in the RIND.

885
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: He updated it when he won the high school has.

886
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 2: The resume and LinkedIn account. He's been doing internships the

887
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 2: last few summers, like like he's about to get a

888
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 2: job when he graduates college that's not gonna make him

889
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 2: a million dollars because he's going to be drafted into

890
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 2: the NFL. He says, I am passionate about leveraging my

891
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 2: background in business, real estate and finance to build a

892
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: career that can bunch strategic thinking, teamwork, and community impact.

893
00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: I don't know a coach that doesn't want this man

894
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: at the point, like, you want this guy on your team.

895
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: This is the most incredible like mix of just a

896
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 2: special athlete.

897
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 3: That you can find.

898
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 2: Like every every time they put a mic in his face,

899
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, everyone, I'm sat, please, you know I need to.

900
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 3: Hear what he's gonna say real quick.

901
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: My other lean in was lean into pop culture because

902
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: Gary Bettman, the commissioner of the NHL. Yes, I had

903
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: here too in Rivalry all in one night, all six episodes.

904
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: And he loves it.

905
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 3: We all love it.

906
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 2: They were at the the creators were at the Canes

907
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: game last night and they were just it's it's a

908
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 2: cultural experience.

909
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 3: It's beautiful. All right.

910
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: We're at back with our two next Welcome back to

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00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: Fox Football Saturday Hour two. I'm Alex Curry here with

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00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 2: Carmen Vitally. Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon with

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00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 2: Carme and Me coming to you live from the Fox

914
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios in Los Angeles.

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00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 3: Carme, how are we doing.

916
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: We're good, We're good. We're just we're watching the Bills

917
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: kind of driving in the field right now. And uh,

918
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: Mark and said it, it's been a lot of James

919
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: cook And what did I say, laden into this game,

920
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: they were gonna need a lot of James Cooks. So yeah,

921
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: we love Josh Josh.

922
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 3: Almost almost. They're close, you guys, what are we got?

923
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: He got the first down, so you get a fresh

924
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: set of downs at the old line, not bat.

925
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 3: First and three. Oh no, not quite yet. They're getting there, though.

926
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: I know you're not here in studio with me, Carmen,

927
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 2: but I just want to I want to point out

928
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 2: that I'm rocking my Dodgers jacket today because the back

929
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: to back champs just keep making moves.

930
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: I stole I say, they stole Kyle Tucker from.

931
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 2: The I mean, and everyone except Dodger fans are livid,

932
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 2: and I just like to remind everybody, like your teams

933
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 2: could do this too.

934
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 12: So.

935
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: They just got al so they decided they were spending money,

936
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: and I think they finally discovered that you could prefer money,

937
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: Yes you can.

938
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 3: Like what the Dodgers are doing is not illegal, like

939
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 3: everybody can do it. So just take a page out

940
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 3: of the Back to.

941
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: Back champs books and start making noise towards your team

942
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 2: and your owners instead of getting mad at the Dodgers,

943
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: because what they're doing is working and they're winning, and

944
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 2: your teams can do that too.

945
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: You just got to go do it well. Shout out.

946
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 1: It's Cubs Convention weekend right now in Chicago. Alex Alex

947
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: Bregman made his Cubs day. Yeah, they had they had

948
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: Bregman jerseys all ready to go already and he'd got

949
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: to talk to fans and he was on local radio

950
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: and doing all the stuff. I go this weekend Cubs

951
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: Convention does every does every This is this is something

952
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: I don't know because I grew up with Cubs Convention

953
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: and Socks Fest, which are weekend long conventions where everybody

954
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: on the roster comes, They have their sitting at tables,

955
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 1: fans can come and meet them, get things signed. There's like,

956
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: you know, the mascots are there, there's kids activities, there's

957
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: other like you know, ye mem orbilia stuff, there's this

958
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: that the other. Just does every team do that in

959
00:42:59,719 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: the lead?

960
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 2: I know, the Dodgers have a Dodgers fan fast, the

961
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 2: Angels have an Angels fan fest, the only.

962
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: Self contained thing at a hotel. No, okay, Sony. When

963
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: I was interned for the White Sox, Yeah, Like one

964
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: of my first week's interning was they put me up

965
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: in the hotel at the Palmer House Hilton, and I

966
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: had to like escort a bunch of guys everywhere to

967
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: each like event that they were doing, each panel they

968
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: were on, and it was like two days, two full

969
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: days like with an overnight. And I remember that night

970
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: we all went to like Miller's Pub around the corner

971
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: and like the sos GM, who I hadn't even met

972
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: at that point, was like dying rounds of shots for

973
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 1: all the employees like that. It was an incredible like

974
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't know if every team

975
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: does this.

976
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I but both the games that extensive. That's great.

977
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 3: That it's greatl I love hearing that all.

978
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 2: Right, back to football, you guys, By the way, Bills

979
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 2: just scored, so it is seven seree Buffalo.

980
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,479
Speaker 3: It's going to be a good one. Okay.

981
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: So let's get to the Sunday Divisional round. If you

982
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 2: missed in the first hour, we broke down the Saturday games.

983
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: You can listen to that on the podcast wherever you

984
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 2: listen to your podcasts. But let's start with the game.

985
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 2: I know, carme and we are anxiously waiting for tomorrow.

986
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 2: Rams at Bears. It is online, Donkey Kohn, Carmen.

987
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 3: La Verse, Chicago. We have the experience versus the new

988
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 3: kids on the block.

989
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 2: Both these teams had late comebacks last week and with

990
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: their quarterbacks stepping up to really make it happen, you

991
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 2: can't count out either of these teams in the fourth quarter.

992
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot to unpack here. First, what

993
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 2: the Bears did with that comeback win was even crazy

994
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 2: for them. It was crazy for the comeback kids. Seven

995
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: games they'd come back to win in the fourth quarter.

996
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 2: I mean, Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams just feel like

997
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 2: a match made in football heaven.

998
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 3: Like I said, new kids on the Block.

999
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 2: But then you have also the magic that Sean McVay

1000
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 2: and Matthew Stafford have.

1001
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 3: And I don't. I don't know if.

1002
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 2: The inexperience is going to be able to overcome and

1003
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 2: the comeback is going to be able to overcome such

1004
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: a solid team and an MVP sel see this season

1005
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 2: that Matthew Stafford has been having.

1006
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: Listen, I Matthew Stafford is one of, if not the

1007
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: best quarterback currently in the league right now. He's one

1008
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: of the best processing quarterbacks. He knows exactly what he's

1009
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 1: looking at when he looks at opposing defenses. He's getting

1010
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: rid of the ball very quickly two point eight second

1011
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: time to throw average this year. Sean McVay is doing

1012
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: a lot of wonderful things blending both the run and

1013
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: the pass game. That under center play action game is

1014
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: something that Matthew Stafford does a lot of guess what

1015
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams does a lot of it too in Ben

1016
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: Johnson a lot of things about these offenses. While Ben

1017
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: Johnson is not from this tree, which he will let

1018
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: you know he's not from this tree. He's his own thing.

1019
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: He's actually indirectly kind of a Sean Payton guy, like

1020
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: he comes kind of indirectly on through Dan Campbell as

1021
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: a Sean Payton Tree, but not really anyway. Both of

1022
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: these teams, both of these offenses run a lot of

1023
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: under center play action. They are also there's a lot

1024
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: of window dressing, there's a lot of motion, a lot

1025
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 1: of shifts, and they both rely. I think the Rams

1026
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: haven't gotten enough credit for their ground game, which is

1027
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 1: top three most efficient in the NFL if you're looking

1028
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: at some of the more advanced metrics, and that's something

1029
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: that the Bears have, you know, they established like halfway

1030
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: through the season, I would say. And then the last

1031
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: couple of games, if you look at the run pass splits,

1032
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: they have been throwing the ball quite a bit more.

1033
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: It's been more sixty five seventy percent throwing and then

1034
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 1: thirty eight thirty five percent running, which has not been

1035
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: the case up until that point. It's usually been a

1036
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: very even split, with even the run taking it a

1037
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: little bit. So I'm very interested to see, especially if

1038
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: we get a cold, you know, one of those really

1039
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: physical cold like gritted out games in Chicago, which the

1040
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: temperature suggests it might be, you are going to need

1041
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: to be very effective on the ground in this game.

1042
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 1: Which team does that better is going to play into

1043
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: who ends up winning. I also think that I keep

1044
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: saying it, the Bears cannot keep relying on being like

1045
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: climbing out of these almost insurmountable holes. Because I was

1046
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: at the game against the Packers fourth quarter, they need

1047
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: sixteen points, and I'm like, how is this going to work?

1048
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: There's They're like, this is the playoffs, the margin for

1049
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: error is smaller, these teams are better. There's no way, right,

1050
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: There's no way. And then and then the Packers miss

1051
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: the Brandon mcmannus misses the forty four yard field goal,

1052
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, Oh my god.

1053
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: The Bears are going to do this again, aren't they.

1054
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: It's sure enough a fourth and eight completion to Roma

1055
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: Dune Say where Kayleb Williams had neither foot on the ground,

1056
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: just insane heroics. But I just don't want to live

1057
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: that way if I'm a Bears fan, and I don't

1058
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: want to live that way against a team that has

1059
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: as much experience as the Rams do, that is as

1060
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: solid as the Rams are as the pass rush and

1061
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 1: the defensive front that the Rams have. I mean, you're

1062
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: talking about Jared Verse. You know, he won Defensive Rookie

1063
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 1: of the Year in his first year. You're talking about

1064
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: guys like Byron Murphy. You're talking about the front seven

1065
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: that is extraordinarily hard to do anything against. And with

1066
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: Kayleb Williams, you know, he is an escape artist and

1067
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: he can get away from pressure. But these guys and

1068
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: the get off and the athleticism that they have is

1069
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: they're going to make that very difficult. And if you

1070
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: can get Caleb Williams to get a little antsy in

1071
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 1: the pocket, to be a little hyper in the pocket,

1072
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: to get off of his footwork, and if you can

1073
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: shut down the run game, this is going to be

1074
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: a very hard game for the Bears to overcome. Something

1075
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: like that.

1076
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,919
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean both these teams, as I mentioned, had

1077
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: come back lay in games to win in the wildcard round.

1078
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 2: And when you watched what Stafford did at the end

1079
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 2: of that game last week, Rams were down with two

1080
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 2: and a half minutes left in the game. They talked

1081
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 2: about this after the game, but Stafford looked at DeVante

1082
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 2: Adams and said, let's go snatch these guys' hearts.

1083
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: So he's done that before and they and he did that,

1084
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: and he did that my last year with the Buccaneers.

1085
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: Say will recall one season, Tom Brady like I was

1086
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and they're going it's it's in the playoffs.

1087
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: And when I tell you that, the Bucks went up,

1088
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: they went down and they scored and there were there

1089
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: was maybe a minute left in the game. No, I

1090
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: think it was like forty seven such or something like that.

1091
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford got like, has that moment It comes out

1092
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,720
Speaker 1: after that, he had that moment with his offensive huddle

1093
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: and then what does he do. He goes over the

1094
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: top down the field, Cooper Cup just burns past the

1095
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: safety and they score and they win, and Tom in

1096
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: hand tom Brady the most awful playoff loss I think

1097
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: he's ever suffered. And like that was my last year

1098
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: with the Bucks too, So it was just that has

1099
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: burned into my brain. So when I heard that he

1100
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: did that again with devontae Aas, was like, hey did.

1101
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 3: That years ago?

1102
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: You've been doing it.

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00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 2: I mean there's only a handful of quarterbacks where there's

1104
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: under a minute left and you sit back and you're like, nah,

1105
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 2: I'm not worried.

1106
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 3: Like, I'm not worried.

1107
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 2: Do you feel that way now that what you've seen

1108
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 2: what Caleb Williams has done with these insane comebacks. Are

1109
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 2: you confident that if he gets in that position tomorrow

1110
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 2: you feel okay?

1111
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 1: It's it's weird because that fourth and eight play, Yeah,

1112
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: I had this. I wouldn't even call it a confidence

1113
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 1: that he was going to convert it, yeah, because it

1114
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: looked horrendous, But I had, like I think when he

1115
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: when he did it, all I did was laugh like

1116
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised, I'll put it that way, like not

1117
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: that I expected that to happen, but when it happens now,

1118
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised and I'm not shocked. Again, I'll say it.

1119
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to live like that if I'm a

1120
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 1: Bears fan, like you're gonna have to.

1121
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 3: That's what this season is. It is, it's going to happen.

1122
00:50:58,480 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 3: That's how it's going to be.

1123
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: It is dress while watch Kayleb Williams play football, because

1124
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: he's not there yet. He hasn't even scratched the surface

1125
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: of what he can be, especially under Ben Johnson, but

1126
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: he does have more of a command of this offense

1127
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: than he has ever before. Like it very much seemed

1128
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: like he was like along for the ride, and now

1129
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: it seems like he's actually in command and so he

1130
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,760
Speaker 1: I have more faith that he can do those things,

1131
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: you know, down whatever minute to go, Like, I have

1132
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: more faith that that can work out, obviously because we've

1133
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: seen it seven times now essentially, But I don't have

1134
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 1: the confidence in the way that I would with like

1135
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford under center, because it's gonna look weird and

1136
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: again against a really, really good team, you just can't

1137
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: count on that kind of stuff. So, like, if you're

1138
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: a Bears fan, it's stressful. Yeah, but I'm also not surprised.

1139
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 1: You're not surprised when it works out because he's shown

1140
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: you he can do it.

1141
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: Okay, so he's shown you he can make it happen.

1142
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 2: But do you think he has what it takes to

1143
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 2: take this team to Super Bowl right now?

1144
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think Caleb Williams does if he got more

1145
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 1: help from the defense. We're what we're not talking about

1146
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: here is how flawed the Chicago Bears defense is. And

1147
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 1: that's why I'm not a down believer in this team

1148
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: going down this stretch because I've talked about how imperative

1149
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: defense is to actually going all the way. And what

1150
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: happened this year with Chicago Bears is that their takeaways

1151
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: they led the league in takeaways this year. They that

1152
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,720
Speaker 1: masks a lot of issues when it comes to a defense.

1153
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: They're essentially the Packers from last year, where you had

1154
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: all of these takeaways and you were giving your offense

1155
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 1: more chances, and that's all you can add. And you

1156
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: can live that way in the short term defensively, but

1157
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: when you get into these situations, you can't count on

1158
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: getting multiple turnovers. If you do, that's great, and then,

1159
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: like I have a lot more faith that this team

1160
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: can keep going. But you can't rely on those things either.

1161
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 1: Like I said, it is stressful watching Kaleb Williams play football,

1162
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,919
Speaker 1: but it's stressful watching the entire team. This entire team

1163
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: play football. So do they have what it takes? Absolutely

1164
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: they do. But do I trust that they can put

1165
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: it all together consistently enough to get there?

1166
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 8: No?

1167
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: I don't.

1168
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 3: What's the weather looking like it's sub twenty right, yeah.

1169
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: It's it's I think it's seventeen right now, but tomorrow,

1170
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: right I can tell you right now because it's on

1171
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: my phone. All right, it's eighteen right now. It feels

1172
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: like four. Tomorrow is going.

1173
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 3: To be silly, Just say it's four.

1174
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: Tomorrow is going to be a high of eighteen, so

1175
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: we'll probably feel like single digits again. But I mean

1176
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 1: that's what happens when you play outdoors in January. Okay,

1177
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna be wearing like my bass layers

1178
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: and everything. Like, I'm not probably gonna take an outfit

1179
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: pick tomorrow because it's not gonna be cute, It's gonna

1180
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: be functional.

1181
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,720
Speaker 3: Do it anyway. Okay, we're talking about defense.

1182
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 2: Let's get to this final divisional game, Texans at Patriots.

1183
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 2: This is going to be a defensive slugfest here because

1184
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 2: Texans have one of the best defenses in the league,

1185
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 2: first in yards allowed for a second end points allowed.

1186
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,240
Speaker 2: Patriots also have a solid defense, eighth in yards allowed,

1187
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 2: fourth in points allowed. Also like a good interesting quarterback matchup.

1188
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:15,720
Speaker 2: Couple of young qbs.

1189
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 3: CJ.

1190
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 2: Stroud having kind of a bounce back third season. He's

1191
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 2: looking closer to how he did his rookie season. Drake

1192
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 2: May obviously in the MVP conversation. In his second season,

1193
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 2: he won in his debut playoff game.

1194
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 8: It just.

1195
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 2: Can they get past each other's defenses because these are

1196
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 2: such strong.

1197
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 3: Sex strong, such strong lines, Carmen.

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00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: I mean the Patriots is getting there like they like

1199
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: towards the back half the season into the postseason. I

1200
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: think we've seen a lot of improvement from the Patriots

1201
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: defense in particular. And of course, right you have Mike

1202
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: Frabele as the head coach. Yeah, you knew that he

1203
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: was going to be able to turn defense around and

1204
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: turn them around fast. Oh my gosh. I think speaking

1205
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: of defense, I think the Broncos might have just recovered.

1206
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 3: Did they cook? I think they just recovered yep, knocked

1207
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 3: it out of his hands, and just as.

1208
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: Josh scrambled up and gotten into.

1209
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 3: There you go defense. Defense.

1210
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: I was gonna say. But that being said, the Patriots

1211
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: defense might be top ten at this point, the Houston

1212
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: Texans defense is the best defense in the league. They

1213
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: are and I'm borrowing this phrase from my fiance show,

1214
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: The Athletic Football Show. We'll talk to him in a

1215
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, they are a defensive unit full of

1216
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: goblins and at every single level too. You have the

1217
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: best pass rushing tandem, and Will Anderson and Daniel Hunter

1218
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: on each side of that defensive line. You've got some

1219
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: great guys eating up space and the interior there. But

1220
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,919
Speaker 1: then you have guys like Derek Stingley in that second

1221
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: Derek Muri Lassiter. There are so many guys that we

1222
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: don't even like. You don't even get to talk about

1223
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: all of them, even if you're doing a deep dive

1224
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: in you this game, because they are that good and

1225
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 1: that solid on all three levels. So that being said,

1226
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: I mean Drake May was my MVP. Like, if I

1227
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: had an MVP vote vote, it would go to Drake May.

1228
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: It would go to Drake May over Matthew Stafford for

1229
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: one reason in that their numbers were very similar. But

1230
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: Drake faced a lot more pressure than Matthew Stafford did,

1231
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 1: and I think that's very impressive. Okay, but that being said,

1232
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: he has not like this defense is going to turn

1233
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 1: it up even another notch. Yeah, when you talk about

1234
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: regular season versus postseason, and I am legitimately concerned for

1235
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: Drake May in this game against this defense. So I

1236
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: also think that CJ. Stroud's I dogged a lot on

1237
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,439
Speaker 1: their offensive line because coming into the season they didn't

1238
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: even know who was starting along that offensive line. They

1239
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: had trade away Laramie Tunsul. You were like, what are

1240
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: your what's your plan here? And honestly, I think the

1241
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: guards that like, I don't they're their center is not

1242
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 1: my favorite. But the guards, when you're talking about ed

1243
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 1: ingram Ezra Cleveland, have done a tremendous job in keeping

1244
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: the interior of that pocket steady.

1245
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 4: For c J.

1246
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: Stroud, I think c J. Stroud is still a little

1247
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 1: got a little PTSD from last year because he gets

1248
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: a little hyper in the pocket. He gets he does

1249
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: a little dance and he's a little antsy in there

1250
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: and his footwork kind of gets off. But if he

1251
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: can trust his protection, I trust the Houston Texans offense,

1252
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: even with the Nico Collins injury, to put up some

1253
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: more points, but especially enough points for how little this like,

1254
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: how much this defense is going to limit what the

1255
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: Patriots can do offensively.

1256
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a defensive slugfest. We're gonna have our

1257
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 2: game picks at the end of the show here, but

1258
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 2: we're gonna take a quick break here.

1259
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 3: When we come back. We've got a couple of first

1260
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 3: happening in the Natty. That's next. You're listening to Fox

1261
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 3: Sports Radio.

1262
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Fox Football Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here

1263
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 2: with Carmen Vitally. Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon

1264
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 2: with us. Now, we obviously have the bills of Broncos

1265
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 2: game on KARMI. I don't know if you're a fan

1266
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 2: of Survivor. I didn't realize they're on season fifty. How

1267
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 2: many shows have fifty seasons?

1268
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: What didn't it revolutionized? Like what Reality TV was or

1269
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: what like Contest eight ten, like they were the first

1270
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: ones to do.

1271
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 3: It's insane, so many three seasons.

1272
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: I know, but it works. It's a timeless model.

1273
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 3: Yeah it get it, I get it. That's insane.

1274
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 2: All right, you guys, College Football Championship game on Monday,

1275
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 2: making of Survivors.

1276
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: How many people are still like alive and their Survivor

1277
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: pools and good college foot ball?

1278
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 10: Wow?

1279
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: This who could have predicted? Nodiana and Miami? Miami?

1280
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 2: Who like squeaked the I mean, the last time these

1281
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: two teams face was nineteen sixty six. Like, let's just

1282
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 2: let's get into this right. Indiana is an eight and

1283
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 2: a half point favorite. I think still both these head

1284
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 2: coaches came from the Nick Saban coaching tree. But this

1285
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 2: is the first time in school history that Indiana will

1286
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 2: be playing for a national title in just two seasons.

1287
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 2: Chris Signetti turned this program around. They'd only want three

1288
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 2: Bowl games in their history. They've already went to this season.

1289
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 2: Like when you really look at everything that he has

1290
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 2: done with this team, they have the Heisman Trophy winner,

1291
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 2: the number one player in everyone's hearts for nating Mendoza,

1292
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 2: Like is he going to be a Vegas.

1293
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 3: Raider next season? By the way, do we think that's

1294
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 3: gonna happen?

1295
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: Like, I mean, if I'm John Spytech, I'm taking a

1296
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: long look. And honestly I heard the I forgot who

1297
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: reported this. It was either Schefter or Rappaport, but that

1298
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: some like they're going to the Raiders are going to

1299
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: conduct some of their head coaching interviews even in Miami

1300
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: because that is where Tom Brady lives, and it is

1301
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,479
Speaker 1: also around the Nashal, Like there's a lot of people

1302
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 1: that are in talent for the National Championship and is

1303
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: not the other so it's not hard to connect those dogs.

1304
00:59:59,320 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 6: No.

1305
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 3: Also, his personality though with Raiders fans is just so

1306
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 3: hilarious to me.

1307
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: It is there's been so many memes, like you know,

1308
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Speaker 1: Ned Flanders going to like like just it's all the

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01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: memes have been phenomenal of like what Fernando Mendoza in

1310
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: Las Vegas would be like. But you honestly want to say,

1311
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Speaker 1: me and a guy like that's not like right, Like

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Speaker 1: you're not. You don't have to worry about him out

1313
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Speaker 1: at the club until four in the mornings.

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Speaker 2: You don't how gnarly they are, the fandom and him

1315
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Speaker 2: just like hello everybody.

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Speaker 1: It's just he's the sweetest, cutest, obsessed, sweet baby.

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Speaker 3: I'm obsessed.

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Speaker 1: I do have to Okay, so I have I have

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01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 1: a personal connection to Indiana and that one of my

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Speaker 1: best friends from college. Actually I worked with him in

1321
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: the sports information office sun Double Media Relations at Arizona State.

1322
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: His name's Matt Wilson, and he is the general manager

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Speaker 1: of Indiana. He is the gem of that program. And

1324
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: when you talk about how Indiana was built and how

1325
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Speaker 1: they turned this around in two years under Kurt, a

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01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: lot of it has to do with enticing guys to

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Speaker 1: come in the transfer portal, getting guys that are a

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Speaker 1: little bit more experienced. This is not, you know, necessarily

1329
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: the youngest team, but this is a team that was

1330
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Speaker 1: very able to very much recruit and recruit very well.

1331
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: And that responsibility, yes, it falls on the head coach.

1332
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: It falls a lot on this GM position that exists

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01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: now in college. It's not just you know, the director

1334
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: or player personnel or whatever. They are essentially in the

1335
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: NIL era and the transfer portal era functioning as gms

1336
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Speaker 1: of college programs. So shout out to Matt Wilson because

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01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: he's done a phenomenal job. This program has done a

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01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 1: phenomenal job, and they are taking them to I mean,

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Speaker 1: you should hear all the Indiana fans here in Chicago

1340
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: that are just like, we're a football school now, and

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01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: they are. They are a football school now, and they

1342
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 1: got the memo from the very beginning of like we

1343
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: are going to have to The reason that Kurt Signetti

1344
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: runs up the score is essentially because he knew he

1345
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: was going to have to, because he has to fight

1346
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: against this narrative that Indiana is not a football school.

1347
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: They are now, and they are capable of scoring so

1348
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 1: many points. It's going to be a tall task for

1349
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: this Miami defense.

1350
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 3: Like that quote I win google me is just like

1351
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 3: s and that was early.

1352
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 12: That was early.

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01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 3: That was his first ye chef's kiss.

1354
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 2: I mean, so when you look at the other side, though,

1355
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Speaker 2: Miami playing at home first time, a team is playing

1356
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 2: for a Natty in their home stadium. Miami hasn't won

1357
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 2: a Natti sentence two thousand and one, but is it.

1358
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're gonna have enough to slow

1359
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 2: down this Indian offense and this Indiana team.

1360
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Speaker 1: And they're a season team too. That's the thing is

1361
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Speaker 1: like Indiana. If you look at you know, Ohio State

1362
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: one last year, like the Big Ten and Big Ten football,

1363
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 1: it was Ohio State last year, Michigan the year before this,

1364
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Speaker 1: the Big Ten. I'm not going to say that the

1365
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: New SEC because I'm going to get in so much

1366
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: trouble for that, even here at home.

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Speaker 3: But you want is saying that, So it's not but Indiana.

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Speaker 1: It's not as if Indiana is coming out of a

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Speaker 1: conference where they weren't facing any sort of you know,

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Speaker 1: heavyweights or or having to face any sort of adversity.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Big Ten has eighteen teams now, for

1372
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Speaker 1: christ sake.

1373
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 3: Like they opened their door when like all the like

1374
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Speaker 3: all the conference kids, Big.

1375
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Speaker 1: Ten Classic between Indiana and Oregon, come on in, Big

1376
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Speaker 1: Ten Classic.

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Speaker 3: Yes we've got c for you in the back, come

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Speaker 3: on in.

1379
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Speaker 1: But my point is that that they have had a

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Speaker 1: very hard schedule to get here, whereas maybe that first year,

1381
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Speaker 1: last year, you could have said, well, did they really

1382
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Speaker 1: beat you know, any of these contenders, any of these heavyweights,

1383
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: and the answer was was honestly no. Now that is

1384
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Speaker 1: not the case. And not only did Indiana beat them,

1385
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Speaker 1: they whooped them.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and they have Funa.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 3: I'm so excited. It's going to be a fun one.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: I's checking with Martin Wise and see what's trending.

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Speaker 7: You know another reason why the sec is are the

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01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 7: Big ten's not the SEC. If Indiana wins, this will

1393
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Speaker 7: be like when the SEC was dominant it was saving Yeah.

1394
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Speaker 7: And then like Savan's assistance that they went to other schools, right,

1395
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Speaker 7: like Georgia, Like yeah, Kurt Signetti and you know the

1396
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Speaker 7: different Brian Day and Jim Harborough obviously from three different,

1397
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 7: wildly different trees, right.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, it's not wildly different experiences,

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Speaker 1: wildly different coaching jobs leading up to that.

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Speaker 4: Exactly.

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Speaker 7: Josh Allen slow to get up, but it looks like

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Speaker 7: he'll be okay here with about six minutes in the

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Speaker 7: second quarter.

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Speaker 4: He's been slow to get up a lot.

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not worried about it.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's up nothing to.

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Speaker 7: Be, nothing to fear except for the loss of eight

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Speaker 7: yards on that play. So second and seventeen as they

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Speaker 7: run a tunnel screen to Khalil Shakir, Buffalos got the

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Speaker 7: ball in about their own thirty yard line.

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Speaker 4: They trailed Denver ten to seven.

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Speaker 7: Josh All seven for eight for sixty six yards and

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Speaker 7: a touchdown.

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Speaker 4: That touchdown is to McCole Hardman.

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Speaker 7: The actually ran the same player as mcclarmond scored a

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01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 7: touchdown the Super Bowl on that just goes to show

1417
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 7: you McCole Harmon was on the practice squad not too

1418
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 7: long ago catching the first touchdown of the game in

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Speaker 7: the Division round.

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Speaker 4: For the Bills Denver.

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Speaker 7: The way they've been moving the ball bow nixt seven

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Speaker 7: for thirteen started out five for five, so little let's

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01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 7: skittish down the After that, we have seventy six yards

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Speaker 7: and a touchdown pass to Frank Crump. That's right, so

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Speaker 7: number seventy three, just like everybody drew it up a

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Speaker 7: big man touchdown as the sixth offensive lineman came in

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Speaker 7: the game for Denver and scored the touchdown. Denver also

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Speaker 7: adding a field goal to that and a first down

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Speaker 7: here for Buffalo Brandon Cooks first and ten, second quarter,

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Speaker 7: four thirty.

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Speaker 4: Left in the first half. There the ladies. You know

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Speaker 4: I've taken up enough.

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Speaker 3: Of your time back to thank you Martin.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Football Saturday and Alex Curry here

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01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 2: with Carmen Vitali.

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Speaker 3: It is time for our next guest. You know him,

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Speaker 3: you love him.

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01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 2: He's the co host of the Athletic Football Show. Tell

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01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 2: them thank you for joining the show.

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Speaker 13: That's great to be here, y'all. What's going on?

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01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 2: Oh so much, so much? And I know you're excited

1442
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 2: for this weekend too. Just flat out, which game are

1443
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 2: you expecting to be the most wild? And you can

1444
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 2: take wild in any direction game this weekend?

1445
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 13: And why I mean wild?

1446
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 12: We're probably talking about Bears Rams. I really think, you know,

1447
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 12: I think all four of these games have different selling points.

1448
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 12: Broncos Bills is already off to a great start. I

1449
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 12: think Patriots Texans is going to be a phenomenal chess

1450
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 12: match between who I think is going to win the

1451
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 12: MVP and the best defense in the league. But if

1452
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 12: we're talking about wild, I mean I'm expecting I'm expecting

1453
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 12: fifty five sixty plus points scored between the Bears and

1454
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 12: the Rams. I don't think either one of those teams

1455
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 12: can really stop each other. Yeah, it might be another

1456
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 12: first to thirty five wins sort of deal. And man,

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Speaker 12: I can't wait for that tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: All right? Sticking with that game though, A lot has

1459
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 1: been made obviously about the weather and how cold it's

1460
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 1: going to be, and obviously that's nothing new for Chicago.

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Speaker 1: But Dave, I'm curious as to your that's just the

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01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 1: way you're thinking about it, because you are a transplant

1463
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 1: to Chicago. For those that don't know, Davis from New Orleans,

1464
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 1: lived in Texas, lived in LA never went through a

1465
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: real winter until I moved him up here to Chicago.

1466
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 1: But you keep you've come full Midwestern man, where you're like,

1467
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 1: if you take the right precautions, it's really not that

1468
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 1: big of a deal. So do you think that there

1469
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 1: are just precautions that perhaps Matt Stafford and the Rams

1470
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Speaker 1: can take to make this a non factor.

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Speaker 13: Listen, I need to be clear.

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Speaker 12: I don't have to play football in this weather, So

1473
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 12: I don't you know, I'm not going to get hit

1474
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 12: sixty five times tomorrow and have to line up and

1475
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 12: get this. Snot knocked out of me every single time

1476
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 12: I line.

1477
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 13: Up on the ball, So I'm sure that's going to suck.

1478
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 12: But I really do think in this modern in this

1479
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 12: modern day of football, where players change teams every other year,

1480
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 12: and half of these guys played at places like Ohio

1481
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 12: State and Michigan. I mean, I know that Detroit Lions

1482
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,919
Speaker 12: have a dome, but Matthew Stafford spent plenty of time

1483
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 12: living in the Midwest, playing at places like lambeau Field

1484
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 12: and Soldier Field.

1485
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Speaker 13: I really think the whole thing's overblown.

1486
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 12: I think if you have the right gear on, if

1487
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 12: you put some if you put some hand warmers in

1488
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 12: the little pouch on the front of your.

1489
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 13: Jersey, I think it's going to be okay.

1490
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 12: I think the conditions might make it a little harder

1491
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 12: to play football, especially a team that likes to wing

1492
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 12: the ball around the way the Rams do. Maybe we

1493
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:36,560
Speaker 12: see fewer explosive passes, Maybe it's a little harder to

1494
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 12: get those those big chunk games. But I really think

1495
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 12: the coldness in a playoff game is overblown. Like if

1496
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,799
Speaker 12: it was Friday night in the middle of the season,

1497
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 12: then you'd rather be somewhere else. That's one thing, but

1498
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 12: you're going to get up for a divisional round playoff

1499
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 12: game no matter what.

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Speaker 13: The temperature says.

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01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 2: Now, the Bears have been the comeback Kings. We're saying

1502
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 2: on this game all season. The craziest one, I think

1503
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 2: was against the Packers. But then you have a Rams

1504
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 2: team that also you can't count out in the fourth

1505
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 2: quarter and are very experienced in the playoff. Super Bowl

1506
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 2: winning quarterback coach Duo. Do you think the Bears have

1507
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 2: enough to pull off an upset if they do.

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Speaker 10: So?

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01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 12: I picked the Rams to win, but I absolutely think

1510
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 12: the Bears have enough. I mean, this Bears offense is phenomenal.

1511
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 12: They run the ball fantastically. DeAndre Swift and Kyle Ma

1512
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 12: Nungai have been an incredible one to two punch. I mean,

1513
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Speaker 12: I don't need to tell anybody about what Caleb Williams

1514
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 12: and these receivers been able to piece together.

1515
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Speaker 13: Particularly in the back half of the year.

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Speaker 12: And the other part of that Alex very quietly, I

1517
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 12: know they have a lot of good players, but the

1518
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 12: Rams defense has been bad for a minute now. They

1519
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 12: are tied for the second most explosive pass plays given

1520
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 12: up over the last eight weeks of the season. They

1521
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 12: are gettable. Their cornerbacks I think are a mismatch in

1522
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 12: this game, and Lake, their star safety, is just coming

1523
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 12: back from an injuries he struggled against the Panthers last week. So,

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Speaker 12: like I said, I think this is going to be

1525
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 12: the wildest game because I don't really think either of

1526
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 12: these defenses is equipped to consistently get stops and so

1527
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 12: maybe it's a little bit lower scoring because it's going

1528
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 12: to be pulled as hell, But I really think the

1529
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 12: winner of this game is going to need twenty eight

1530
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,640
Speaker 12: points at minimum, maybe more than that.

1531
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I you know, I think the Panthers kind of

1532
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 1: exposed a lot when you talk about the Rams having

1533
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 1: to come back against them and then those outside corners

1534
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 1: in particular. But I want to get to what we're

1535
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: watching right now. I assume that you're watching Bills Broncos.

1536
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 1: I'm very curious. We had a big man touchdown. It

1537
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:48,600
Speaker 1: seems like this is going to have to be a

1538
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:50,640
Speaker 1: high scoring game, which I have to admit, it's not

1539
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 1: something that I went into this thinking that was going

1540
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 1: to be the case. I thought this was going to

1541
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 1: be very much a defensive kind of slugfest. What's it

1542
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 1: going to take for the Bills to finally pull this

1543
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 1: off against the Broncos defensive You.

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01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 13: Know, well, the biggest thing for the Bills.

1545
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 12: I came into this game the big gex factor and

1546
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 12: this is football one on one, but I just really

1547
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 12: wasn't sure who was going to run the ball better

1548
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:14,679
Speaker 12: in this matchup.

1549
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 13: The Bills are so good.

1550
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 12: On the ground, but they struggled last week against Jacksonville. Well,

1551
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 12: they are off to an incredibly hot start. James Cook

1552
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 12: already has more rushing yards in the first half than

1553
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 12: he had all week last week against Jacksonville. Unfortunately, get

1554
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 12: a really costly fumble that if the Bills lose this game,

1555
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 12: I think you're looking back at that and saying, man,

1556
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 12: Buffalo was driving to go up fourteen to three, and

1557
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:40,600
Speaker 12: all of a sudden they're that scramble.

1558
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 13: Yeah. So, I mean the Bills are already in a

1559
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 13: better spot than I thought they'd be. So I mean,

1560
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 13: if they can keep that up.

1561
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 12: And I stepped away from the TV to take your call,

1562
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 12: but keep running them.

1563
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 13: Okay, it's ten ten. They keep running the ball the

1564
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 13: way that they have been in the first half.

1565
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 12: The like their of bleeding the game out and being

1566
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 12: able to keep control of the ball. Although I will

1567
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 12: say in this early going, I've been pretty impressed with Boenix, Like,

1568
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 12: for such a big moment like this, his first home

1569
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 12: playoff game, he's already made two or three really nice throws,

1570
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 12: And so, yeah, I think you're right, Carmon. I think

1571
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 12: it probably winds up being a little more high scoring

1572
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:24,600
Speaker 12: than a lot of people anticipated. But I like the

1573
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 12: Bills odds of getting this done a lot more if they.

1574
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 13: Can keep running the ball like this.

1575
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get to tonight's game, a revenge game for

1576
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers against a questionable Sam Donald who

1577
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 2: hasn't thrown the balls. Has he heard his oblique on Thursday?

1578
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:39,719
Speaker 2: What are you expecting tonight?

1579
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 12: I mean, everything I was expecting kind of went out

1580
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 12: the window when I heard that Sam Donald was throwing

1581
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 12: the football on that deal. You know, he said on

1582
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 12: Thursday that he was going to play and it wasn't

1583
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:53,919
Speaker 12: a big deal, and I'm sure.

1584
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 13: He will try.

1585
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 12: But when you tell me oblique that he injured his oblique, yeah,

1586
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 12: which is a part of your throat motion. And then

1587
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 12: he hasn't thrown a football since the injury, and it's.

1588
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:04,640
Speaker 13: Been two days. I don't love that.

1589
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 8: No.

1590
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 12: Having said that, I mean, the best unit in this

1591
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 12: entire matchup is the Seattle defense. It might be the

1592
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 12: best unit in the entire league. And the forty nine

1593
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 12: ers they have bought so valiantly. Kyle Shanahan's my coach

1594
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 12: of the year for what he's done despite these injuries.

1595
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 12: But you lose George Hittle last week in the first half,

1596
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 12: You're already depleted everywhere else. I mean, this defense is

1597
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 12: patched together with Gumman duct tape, and so I mean,

1598
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 12: I won't be surprised if this bears out a lot

1599
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 12: like the Week eighteen game. Maybe San Francisco more scores

1600
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,879
Speaker 12: more than three points this time around. But at Seattle defense,

1601
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,839
Speaker 12: I mean, it looks like Seattle plays with thirteen players

1602
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 12: when they're on defense. They just have so many, so

1603
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 12: many hosses that can get after you. And I think

1604
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 12: they're going to squeeze a life out of San Francisco.

1605
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,719
Speaker 12: Maybe the nine, like I said, maybe the Niners score

1606
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 12: a little bit more, but I see this being like

1607
01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 12: a twenty to ten sort of Seahawks victory.

1608
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:06,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've I've been I've been stealing your phrase about

1609
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 1: another defense by the way, from the Athletic Football Show

1610
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 1: in that Houston Houston Texans defense is just full of

1611
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 1: goblins on every single level.

1612
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:19,600
Speaker 3: It's a great take, Dave, great tap, and that to

1613
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 3: me is I like, those.

1614
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 1: Are the teams that I trust the most. Though when

1615
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 1: it comes to playoff time? Is how solid is your defense?

1616
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 1: And so do the Patriots have a shot here? Or

1617
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 1: is are Will Anderson and Daniel Hunter just gonna smother

1618
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 1: poor baby? Drake Drake May, Drake Drake Drake made May.

1619
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 12: It's a mouthful of a nickname, isn't it. Drake Drake

1620
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 12: May May.

1621
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1622
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 13: Man, I said that Ram Bears might be.

1623
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 12: The wildest game. Patriots Texans is the one that I'm

1624
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 12: looking forward to the most. I think it is the

1625
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 12: most intriguing matchup. If Seattle doesn't have the best defense

1626
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 12: in the league, minnis Houston and I mean, my god,

1627
01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 12: do those guys get after you. Having said that, I

1628
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 12: think we've entered it sounds weird to say about the

1629
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 12: number two seed in the AFC, and you know, Drake

1630
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 12: May is probably going to win the MVP. I feel

1631
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 12: like the Patriots have become underrated, Like I feel like

1632
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 12: people are talking about the Patriots like it's Drake May

1633
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 12: and twenty one bumps, and.

1634
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 1: We saw the NFL Live segment they all.

1635
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 12: Bets, Yeah, exactly, And we had an argument about it

1636
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 12: on our podcast where I looked at my co host

1637
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 12: and I said, Okay, would you rather have the team

1638
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 12: with an A plus defense and a D offense or

1639
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:33,839
Speaker 12: would you rather take the team that is two solid

1640
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 12: bs across the board? Because I mean, the Texans offense

1641
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 12: is a mess even when Nico Collins is healthy, and

1642
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 12: now it looks like he's going to miss this game

1643
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:44,919
Speaker 12: with a concussion. I just I don't trust the Texans

1644
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 12: to move the ball at all, and so I think

1645
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 12: the Texans defense is the best unit in this game.

1646
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:53,599
Speaker 12: I think the Patriots are a more complete and well

1647
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 12: rounded team. So watching Drake May navigate this is going

1648
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 12: to be so much fun. But ultimately, ultimately I expect

1649
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 12: them to win because across the board, I think they

1650
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 12: are the better football team, even if it's Texans defensive.

1651
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 3: Wow, this it's fun.

1652
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:09,639
Speaker 6: Dave.

1653
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming on. We love you,

1654
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 2: We appreciate you. Have a great time watching all these games.

1655
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 13: Anytime. I'll have a good weekend, all right.

1656
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1657
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 2: We're gonna take more break here when we come back,

1658
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,719
Speaker 2: we got our game picks. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

1659
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Fox Football Saturday. Am Alex Curry here

1660
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 2: with Carmen Vitally, and it is time for our playoff

1661
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Speaker 2: weekend picks.

1662
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:34,800
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1663
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:37,479
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1664
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01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:54,960
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1672
01:16:56,439 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 3: All right, Producer Bo lead us through this. That's right.

1673
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:03,600
Speaker 11: Later tonight, the San Francisco forty nine ers head to

1674
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 11: Seattle to take on the Seahawks, who are a seven

1675
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 11: point favorite. Sam Donald reportedly dealing with an obeague injury,

1676
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 11: but the line has not moved, so I think you

1677
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 11: can take that as you will.

1678
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 3: I just that's still wild to me. Like, okay, so

1679
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 3: this is a revenge game.

1680
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 2: Obviously, Seahawks beat the forty nine Ers two weeks ago

1681
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 2: for that one seed. Forty nine Ers are hurt, but hungry.

1682
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 2: Rock Party has never lost a game in Seattle. And

1683
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:34,679
Speaker 2: the fact that Sam Donald hasn't throw a football since

1684
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 2: Thursday and is dealing with an obeaque injury.

1685
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:37,600
Speaker 3: I think an O week injury is a.

1686
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 2: Bigger deal than what everyone's kind of leading it on

1687
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 2: to be. I'm gonna go with an upset here and

1688
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the forty nine ers.

1689
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 1: Ah wow. Yeah on Seahawks. They've got a phenomenal defense

1690
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 1: and hits that home and in front of that crowd.

1691
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 1: And it's the playoffs, like revenge goes out the window,

1692
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 1: Like Rock Party never win against Seattle. It all goes

1693
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,640
Speaker 1: out the windows. Visual round of the playoffs. This is

1694
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 1: a chance to go to the conference championship. I'm going to.

1695
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 11: Seahawks Tomorrow afternoon. The Houston Texans and their malicious defense

1696
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 11: head to New England to take on Drake May and

1697
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 11: the Patriots. That's a good word too, I know they

1698
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:18,520
Speaker 11: really there's so much fun. There's so much fun the Patriots.

1699
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 11: The Patriots a three point home favorite in this one.

1700
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I was kind of going into

1701
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 1: this second yeah, Texans, Texans, and I don't know, Dan

1702
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 1: might have swayed me a little bit of thought. And

1703
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 1: again it is in New England. It's just it's so

1704
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 1: hard to bet against that Texans defense though. But I

1705
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 1: you know what, I've loved Drake May for a very

1706
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,679
Speaker 1: long time. So I'm going, I'm going. I'm going sweet

1707
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 1: Baby Drake and the Patriots. I think Dave convinced me.

1708
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, I picked the Patriots last night. Drake may

1709
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 2: MVP season continues, obviously not going to be easy against

1710
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 2: the top defense, but ce J also didn't look great

1711
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:03,480
Speaker 2: in his last when I think Mike Brable capitalizes.

1712
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 3: On that, and it's just, yeah, another tough one.

1713
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 2: These were my two toughies, the Texans and Patriots and

1714
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 2: forty nine or Seahawks.

1715
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 3: But I think the Patriots are going to pull through

1716
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 3: all right.

1717
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 11: Tomorrow night, the one that everybody wants to watch, a

1718
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 11: very fun game on deck. The Rams four and a

1719
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 11: half point road favorites in Chicago against the Bears.

1720
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 3: I'm going with experience here.

1721
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:32,719
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford is having an MVP season minus a couple games.

1722
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 2: I think his playoff experience comes into play tomorrow. The

1723
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 2: Bears have had some insane comebacks. I don't think it's

1724
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 2: going to happen against Sean McVay.

1725
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 1: Listen, I said on top of the show, I'm with you,

1726
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 1: I'm picking the Rams tomorrow. I think the Bears have

1727
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 1: a ton of young talent. I think that Caleb Williams

1728
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 1: hasn't even scratched the service of his ceiling. I can't

1729
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 1: wait to see what Ben Johnson continues to do with

1730
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 1: this team. But I just don't know that they're built

1731
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 1: to withstand what the postseason real is because I've watched

1732
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 1: these games, Alexi, Yeah, they're stressful. I can't trust it.

1733
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 1: Will I be surprised if it happens. No, but I

1734
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 1: can't bring myself to trust the Chicago Bears Rams.

1735
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 3: It is fair, all right.

1736
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 11: Miami versus Indiana on Monday in the CFP Final. Indiana

1737
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:16,839
Speaker 11: an eight and a half point favorite.

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01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 3: Hoooo for Nana Mendoza. I think he's an incredible human.

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01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 2: I think he's going to close out a legendary season

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01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 2: and bring Indiana their first Natty in school history.

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01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 1: Hoooo, We're both there.

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01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:30,680
Speaker 5: I love that.

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01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for spending your Saturday afternoon with us.

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01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 2: We'll see you next week, same time, same plays by

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01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:36,639
Speaker 2: Krmi