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Speaker 1: Good morning, sweel and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by FanDuel Thursday, December eighteenth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: I'm J.

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Speaker 1: Skeets here in the Classic Factory and alongside me, as

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Speaker 1: always task.

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Speaker 2: Mellists podcast listeners, this is absolutely for you.

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Speaker 1: Next to him, it's my top shot hot boy Trey Kirby. Hey,

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Speaker 1: ayo over yonder making the magic happen. Super producer jd. Hello,

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Speaker 1: there he is, and our special guest today is Three Things.

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Speaker 1: He's a staff writer at the Atlantic, where he covers culture.

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Speaker 1: He's a co host of the award winning blank Check

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Speaker 1: Film podcast, and most importantly to us here at No Dunks,

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Speaker 1: he's a die hard New York Knicks fan and for

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Speaker 1: that we salute him on winning the NBA Cup. David Simms,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to No Dunks.

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Speaker 2: How are you I am? I am very well.

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Speaker 3: Thank you guys so much for having me a longtime

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Speaker 3: fan all basketball Jones all the way back. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Well we appreciate you jumping on here. How did you

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Speaker 1: celebrate the New York Knicks Cup win? What'd you do?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 3: I have three children at home, so I celebrated by

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Speaker 3: staying up to watch it. Which was to me that

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Speaker 3: was amage enough that I was up till eleven fifteen

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Speaker 3: at night for that that late game, and I watched it,

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Speaker 3: and you know, I don't know, give myself a sort

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Speaker 3: of little pat on the back.

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Speaker 4: Night.

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Speaker 1: You didn't after they beat the Magic in the semifinals.

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Speaker 1: You weren't looking up flights to Vegas, hotels in Vegas, to.

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Speaker 2: Movie go No, not really in a place in my

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Speaker 2: life I can do that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's funny, I I I no one would

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Speaker 3: have expected this, but certainly I didn't walk the streets

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Speaker 3: of New York next morning like two nick throngs of

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Speaker 3: people going.

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Speaker 2: Like cop jippions.

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Speaker 3: You know, there was not and it's very cold in

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Speaker 3: New York right now, but there was not the mood

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Speaker 3: in the air that one might have hoped for, I guess,

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Speaker 3: but you know, we're all we're all feeling pretty pleasant. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: exuds with someone on the subway who's wearing a Knicks hat.

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Speaker 5: I was like, there was you know, there was like

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Speaker 5: videos going around of people saying it was Knicks fans

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Speaker 5: celebrating the cup, and it was just like you know,

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Speaker 5: parties out after a Madison Square garden and I was

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Speaker 5: at least like, well, you know, it is the first

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Speaker 5: title in fifty plus years.

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Speaker 6: Knicks fans do like to celebrate.

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Speaker 5: The bing bong video came, of course, one game into

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Speaker 5: the season a couple of years ago, against the Celtics.

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Speaker 5: Are you proud of the Cup? Do you think they

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Speaker 5: should actually hang the banner in MSG?

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Speaker 2: I do think you should hang the banner.

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Speaker 3: Not not because I'm so precious, just because MSG has

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Speaker 3: there's like a fish banner. There's plenty of silly banners,

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Speaker 3: and like, don't we don't we? I think we've hung

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Speaker 3: division title banners. Yeah, sure, And I don't think a

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Speaker 3: single fan anymore knows, you know, even who's in the

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Speaker 3: Atlantic Division or whether like the last time we won it,

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Speaker 3: and like I we got a little trophy. Yeah, we

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Speaker 3: want to knockout torn Like I think it's fine to

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Speaker 3: celebrate the Cup. I feel like everyone's feeling a little

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 3: It's one thing to put a banner up there, It's

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Speaker 3: another thing for everyone to like stand around while you

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Speaker 3: raise it up. And it feels a little, you know,

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Speaker 1: That, right, right, maybe they just need to hang it,

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Speaker 1: that's okay, just put it up there and then just

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Speaker 1: move on and play the games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, and be like, hey, feel a up there,

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Speaker 2: there's a banner anyway. Yeah right. Also in you know,

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Speaker 2: Chris Rock is here like whatever.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's exactly what they've done the last couple of

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Speaker 7: years with the Bucks and Lakers. They're just like that

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Speaker 2: Know, basically right right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it definitely feels I know, MSG's a mecca, you know,

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Speaker 3: but come on, we can, we can, we can put

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Speaker 5: It definitely feels like this is a Jim Dolan saying

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Speaker 5: no thanks, Adam Silver. This is like the guy who

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Speaker 5: is always the one vote abstaining in thirty votes amongst

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Speaker 5: for everything, and it's always Dolan who says no. But David,

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Speaker 5: did you see the postgame celebrations with Josh Hart and

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Speaker 5: Jalen Brunson the thumb to the booty. I was curious

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Speaker 3: You know, this is something the Mets to do too,

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Speaker 3: are you saying that they should sort of integrate that

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Speaker 2: That could be nice. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate, as I think everybody does, the the general

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Speaker 3: Like everyone seems to get along pretty well. Everyone seems

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Speaker 3: pretty happy. We got the silly boot thing this year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Defensive Player of the Game, Timberland's and hard

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Speaker 5: you can see why Heart and Brunson have a good

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Speaker 5: together like they're friends, but they also just like to

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Speaker 3: I'm I suppose I'm I'm more of the Brunson and

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Speaker 3: he's more of the Heart. Right, Heart's a little bit

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Speaker 3: more the disruptor, the trouble maker, sure coming up with bits.

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Speaker 3: I'm a little bit more of the floor general. I

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Speaker 3: make sure we get into our offense, like AKA talk

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Speaker 3: about the movie something like that. So yes, but but

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I'm I'm probably more of a

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Speaker 2: And yeah, maybe he.

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Speaker 3: Was good once, but you know, should we should we really,

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Speaker 3: you know, maintain respect?

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Speaker 5: So are you worried at all that Ben is going

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Speaker 5: to send you home in the middle of the season.

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Speaker 6: If that's the case, I think.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Ben has that power. I hope, I

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Speaker 3: hope anyone listening knows about my bat. I think I

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Speaker 2: I can hang on for now.

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Speaker 5: I mean, christ Paul's to be outranked all the other

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Speaker 5: guys on the Clippers too, and look what happened to him.

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Speaker 6: But this has been you know.

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Speaker 2: What, send me home? I need to I have a break, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 6: This has been an encouraging next season.

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Speaker 5: I think you know, they went to the conference finals

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Speaker 5: last year for the first time in twenty five years

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Speaker 5: and kind of surprisingly said goodbye to Tom Thibodeau. They

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Speaker 5: there with Mike Brown and play the bench a little

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Speaker 5: bit more. How do you think this season has gone

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Speaker 5: so far changing things as much as they did after

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm quite happy about it.

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Speaker 3: I I you know, I really respected Thibodeau for just

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Speaker 3: sort of instituting a culture on the Knicks, which was

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Speaker 3: what the team had lacked for so long, just any

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Speaker 3: for years. You know, he was a good coach, but

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Speaker 3: just needed someone to be like, hey, guys, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: like Mike Brown, I wasn't when he got hired. It's

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Speaker 3: not like I was dancing in the streets. I was like, oh, sure,

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Speaker 3: you know, yeah, he's fine. But I do feel like

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Speaker 5: I mean TIBs is like a great floor razer as

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Speaker 5: At least a shakeup was necessary. But what would you

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Speaker 5: consider a successful season this year? For the They did

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Speaker 3: I think we have to we have to go to

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Speaker 2: It is not a fun thing to do.

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Speaker 3: And last year or last season, this year, but you know,

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Speaker 3: I suffered, as all Knicks fans did, with that kind

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Speaker 3: of it at the NBA Cup and we were very confident.

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Speaker 3: It was a very confident performance from us at the final.

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Speaker 3: I really liked how we didn't get shaken by the Spurs,

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Speaker 3: all that stuff. But as a Knicks fan, you know,

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Speaker 2: Like like clenched, like.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's like every three suddenly about to go in

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Speaker 2: But no, I think we should we should aim to

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Speaker 3: It feels the East is weird. Feels like we can

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Speaker 3: do it as long as we don't get beat up,

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Speaker 3: like as long as we don't lose somebody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's fair. Eighteen and seven Right now,

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Speaker 1: you just won the Cup obviously coming off of last year,

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Speaker 1: and there is a good camaraderie with this team and

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Speaker 1: the new coach bump and all that. But I want

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Speaker 1: to get your opinion on the rumors that have been

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Speaker 1: going around for a while now. Let's be honest, Yannis,

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Speaker 1: and whether or not the Knicks if they had the

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Speaker 1: capability to make a move for Jannis in Milwaukee or

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Speaker 1: are things going don't disrupt this, like awesome team we

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Speaker 1: have building our depths obviously, these elite guys led by Brunson,

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Speaker 1: Like where do you fall on this? David Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's Yannis, Go get them. That's why we did all

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Speaker 1: of this to get all these guys and some draft

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Speaker 1: capital not a lot obviously, Or are you like leave

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Speaker 3: I really love Joannest like I loved him basically since

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Speaker 3: I mean, one, what's the trade? I still haven't really

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Speaker 3: it's like Cat and Colic and a bunch of swaps

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Speaker 7: Yeah no, yeah, for sure. They changed the atmosphere around there,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the Knicks were a big chase the star for

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Speaker 5: exactly right, But David grown up? Who were the Knicks

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Speaker 3: You know, I was a huge John Starks kid, and

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Speaker 5: It's interesting you say we all love John Starks. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Cargo Bulls fan, Trey Kirby not the biggest judge.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was one of the worst moments in my

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Speaker 5: How do you compare how Jalen Brunson ranks as a

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Speaker 2: But it is so different. I feel like with Mellow,

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Speaker 3: They they were kind of lovable in their way, like

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Speaker 3: Brunson, it's completely different. Like we signed him, I'll admit,

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Speaker 3: and I'm not the only Knicks man. I was kind

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like looking at it from an outsider, obviously

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fun times, Yeah yeah, And it's good for the leak.

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Speaker 7: It's fun to have Jalen Brunson as the we're going

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Speaker 2: At the same time, you're living and.

437
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Speaker 1: Dying with every playoff game. We've been there. We all

438
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Speaker 1: know that, Trey unfortunately for a while.

439
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Speaker 5: But that's literally been a decade since I was living

440
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 5: and dying with a playoff game.

441
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Speaker 3: But uh, you know, but so that's the thing for

442
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,680
Speaker 3: the most of my NBA fandom, barring like these little

443
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,160
Speaker 3: spurts like insanity or like the kind of one good

444
00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,960
Speaker 3: mellow run. Like it's like, well, I'm an NBA fan.

445
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,679
Speaker 3: I get to enjoy basketball. I get to like, you know,

446
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,880
Speaker 3: seek out the narratives that are good because the Knicks

447
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,399
Speaker 3: are barely relevant or irrelevant. Yeah, and so I don't

448
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,120
Speaker 3: have that heart clenching kind of you know, like that

449
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,160
Speaker 3: like tough emotional relationship with the sport.

450
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Speaker 2: It's more just fun.

451
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Speaker 3: And now it's gonna be more and the East playoffs

452
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Speaker 3: are going to be like brutal, Like I think you

453
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Speaker 3: guys would agree, like all the kind of like mucky,

454
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Speaker 3: physical teams that like just you know, there's not a lot.

455
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Speaker 2: Of like smooth basketball in the East.

456
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Speaker 3: It's gonna be all these like grindy playoff series, So

457
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Speaker 3: they're all gonna go to Game seven and they're all

458
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Speaker 3: gonna be like final minutes, right like you think.

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Speaker 2: So, yes, Raptors, the Magic, like all these guys. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was going to ask you, as a Knicks fan,

461
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Speaker 1: is there one team more than the others that you're

462
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Speaker 1: like terrified to see in a in a playoff series?

463
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Speaker 1: Like is it the Pistons again or is it another

464
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 1: one of these questions.

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Speaker 3: I'm not terrified of anyone because like, the only teams

466
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Speaker 3: that really terrify me are the Celtics and the Heat

467
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Speaker 3: because I had and the Pacers because I have like

468
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Speaker 3: that kind of mystical like rivalry fear with them of

469
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Speaker 3: like extra humiliating to lose to them. But the Pistons,

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Speaker 3: it's the it's the combo of they're really good, like

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Speaker 3: they're they're they're and they're fun to they're fun to

472
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Speaker 3: watch and root for, and it's tough when you're up

473
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Speaker 3: against one of those teams that has that aura where

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Speaker 3: you're like, ah, Detroit also kind of needs a win,

475
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 3: and like these guys are good and this city is

476
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Speaker 3: really behind them, like you know that stuff is that's mojo,

477
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Speaker 3: Like that's intense to go up against.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how was that?

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Speaker 7: How was that Round one against them last season series?

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Speaker 7: That was a great series?

481
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Speaker 3: Like that was a real like you know, they they

482
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Speaker 3: showed up series and it was it was awesome, like

483
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Speaker 3: it was. It was justifiably hard to get by him.

484
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. I don't know. It's a long way to playoffs.

485
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Speaker 6: Stress for six months you got ahead of you.

486
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Speaker 5: Not as stressful as trying to get the tenth seed

487
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 5: in the Eastern Conference, but you know, trying to win

488
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Speaker 5: as important as well.

489
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Speaker 2: But that's all the Knicks talk I can handle.

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Speaker 5: We got to get to the up Down Report. Oh baby,

491
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Speaker 5: it's the Up Down Report, a basketball movie edition. David

492
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Speaker 5: will throw some topics at you, all basketball slash movie related.

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Speaker 5: I don't think a movie critic has ever done something

494
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Speaker 5: like this. You've given a thumbs up or a thumbs

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Speaker 5: down with regards.

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Speaker 3: To how you feel about it. Groundbreaking, owned the trademark

497
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Speaker 3: to that. Yeah, I know, it's fine, all right.

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Speaker 5: Our first topic is a space jam, the nineteen ninety

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Speaker 5: six classic Michael Jordan and the Looney Tunes versus the

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Speaker 5: nerd Luck who, of course become the mon stars.

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Speaker 2: Do you like Space Jam David.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll give a soft thumb soft thumbs up. I

503
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 3: mean space Jams a little silly.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: We did an episode out of my podcast years ago,

506
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 3: and uh, you know, it's like seventy eight minutes long.

507
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 3: It's a little light on a dramatic, you know, urgency.

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00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: But watch Uh yeah, you know it's it's it's a

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00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,719
Speaker 3: it's a vital it's a vital piece of pop culture.

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Speaker 3: I would say, as as bizarre as it is. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think that's exactly right.

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Speaker 5: When I watched it with my kids, I couldn't believe

513
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Speaker 5: how much set up there was of like Michael Jordan

514
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Speaker 5: retiring and having a press conference and suddenly I'm having

515
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Speaker 5: to explain retirement number one before even getting into retirement

516
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Speaker 5: number two. That kind of threw me off. But I

517
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Speaker 5: do love that episode of y'all's podcast because I'd always

518
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Speaker 5: been like I can. It seems to me like David

519
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Speaker 5: really likes basketball. You mentioned like Bradley Beal once, you

520
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 5: mentioned Sam Decker once. I was like, nobody would possibly

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Speaker 5: bring these names up unless they cared. Finally listened to

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Speaker 5: the Space Jam one and there was like legitimate basketball discussions,

523
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Speaker 5: which I thought was hilarious. Was that one and the

524
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Speaker 5: New Legacy one? Or like instant classics for me, even

525
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Speaker 5: if I listened to him.

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Speaker 2: Years and years later. Thank you, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 5: Which leads us into our second topic, Lebron James as

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Speaker 5: an actor. How do you feel about Lebron? He of

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Speaker 5: course did a Space Jam A New Legacy, the sequel.

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Speaker 6: He was in train Wreck. I guess he was in

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Speaker 6: small Foot as gan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, I never saw a small Foot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, okay, I'm giving him a thumbs up

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Speaker 3: for train Wreck, which he is excellent in A little

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Speaker 3: forgotten I would say, came and went, Yeah, came in

536
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Speaker 3: went a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I look, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Space Jam Legacy really worked out for anyone, right, Like,

539
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Speaker 3: it's not Space Jam a New Legacy.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I can really hold that one

542
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Speaker 3: against him. I don't you know, he doesn't like look

543
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Speaker 3: at the camera like he's like in that movie. It's

544
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Speaker 3: a it's a very very odd media experience. But I'm

545
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Speaker 3: generally Lebron's good on camera. He's solid. His SNL episode

546
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Speaker 3: was pretty good.

547
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Speaker 5: Yeah, really funny on sn Now, I thought he was

548
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Speaker 5: gonna like blow mj out of the water as an

549
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Speaker 5: actor because he had like done train Wrecker, right, I

550
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Speaker 5: was like, Jordan had done commercials and then he did

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Speaker 5: Space Jam.

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Speaker 6: But I don't think that was the case.

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Speaker 5: Does this, uh, Does Michael versus Lebron as actors factor

554
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Speaker 5: into the goat discussion for you at all?

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00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 2: No?

556
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Speaker 3: But I guess I do think it's an underrated factor

557
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 3: that Michael's kind of like consistent, badass, kind of on

558
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Speaker 3: camera presence all the way to this day doesn't form

559
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 3: people's you know, consideration of all that. I think that's

560
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 3: alleged corniness at times, right, right though, Michael Red was

561
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Speaker 3: just on our show and he said, he said Lebron

562
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Speaker 3: James is one of the funniest people he's ever encountered,

563
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Speaker 3: and then doubled down in the comments basically saying he

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Speaker 3: could have been a comedian if he wanted to, just

565
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Speaker 3: because it isn't it the old thing? It was like

566
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 3: it was like, oh, you'd be like a great running back.

567
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 3: And now we're now we're trying to argue Lebron. They're

568
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Speaker 3: just like what can.

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Speaker 2: Chappelle? Okay, like go.

570
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Speaker 5: Rud I'd love to see him do a set, so yeah, right.

571
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Speaker 5: Our next topic Kurt Russell in Escape from La. The

572
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Speaker 5: basketball scene where he has to make five.

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Speaker 6: Five shots.

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Speaker 5: He's got to score ten points with a ten second

575
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Speaker 5: shot clock, going full court, back and forth, back and forth,

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Speaker 5: back and forth. Thumbs upper thumbs down on Kurt Russell's

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Speaker 5: basketball scene from ninety six is from LA thumbs down.

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Speaker 2: Pretty strange.

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Speaker 6: This is pretty weird just thrown in there.

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Speaker 4: How did this even make it into the movie that

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Speaker 4: that I remember being mostly my I've only seen an

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Speaker 4: Escape from La maybe twice, but you know, by reaction

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Speaker 4: to it, it comes like during a fairly.

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Speaker 3: Dramatic part of the movie that they have to suddenly

585
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Speaker 3: play basketball right like it's not it's not really in

586
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Speaker 3: the things I always think of Sigourney Weaver and Alien

587
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 3: Resurrection hitting the backward lob. That's the craziest okay basketball

588
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 3: move in a movie ever, that she she actually hit it.

589
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 3: It looks fake because the basketball goes off camera, but

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Speaker 3: it wasn't fake. She throws it from behind, like over

591
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 3: her head and it goes through the net.

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00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 5: And apparently they had to cut her away like immediately

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Speaker 5: because nobody could believe it.

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Speaker 2: Everyone forget it right.

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Speaker 6: Yes, that's pretty awesome.

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Speaker 5: I love when a basketball scene ends up in a

597
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Speaker 5: not basketball movie. How do you feel about that? I

598
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 5: know it happen't at least three times this year I'm

599
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Speaker 5: keeping track. Venetian scheme had one where they played horse

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Speaker 5: like that's good highest to lowest, not as pretty and

601
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Speaker 5: of dynamite. Pretty pretty disappointing basketball scene, I would say

602
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 5: from Idris Elba.

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Speaker 2: I forgot about that. I forgot about the right the

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Speaker 2: is it?

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Speaker 3: Angel Ree in Angel Rae's cameo.

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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, now you know what you guys are talking about?

607
00:27:58,840 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 6: Shooting around in a suit?

608
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, considering the implications of nuclear war in America.

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Speaker 2: And then he's like, hey, Angel and I'm like, why.

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00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 6: I don't shots up skeets?

611
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: Though?

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00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 5: In Escape from La what Kurt Russell has to do

613
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 5: is he has to go from one end of the

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00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 5: court to the other ten second shot clock, and he's

615
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 5: got to make five shots or else he is killed.

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00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 5: Do you think you could do it? There's a ten

617
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 5: second shot clock to get from one end to the

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Speaker 5: court to the other.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I have not seen this movie, so I'm glad

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Speaker 1: you guys are sort of explaining this to me and

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Speaker 1: maybe some of the listeners yours. You're saying it resets

622
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Speaker 1: every time, or he has to hit five shots in

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Speaker 1: ten seconds.

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00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 5: Now every time he makes sh the shot clock resets,

625
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 5: he's got to go to the other end.

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00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, could I basically what you're asking? Could I feel

627
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Speaker 1: committed that I could do a layup from one end

628
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Speaker 1: to the other in less than ten seconds?

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Speaker 6: Well, that's one way to do it.

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00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, Or I guess pull up from three. I'm not

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Speaker 1: pulling up from three. I think I could do the layup.

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00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: I think I could do it less a ten seconds.

633
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. Yeah, that seems like a long time.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Hey, Kurt Russell got it done. But do you think,

635
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Speaker 5: oh spoiler, do you think that would be like a

636
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 5: good Instagram account? Like take the Kurt Russell Challenge. I

637
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 5: don't know if it necessarily hits in twenty twenty five.

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00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: Kurt Russell Challenge. That's gonna be an All Star weekend event.

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00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 3: David jen Z obsessed with Kurt Russell.

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00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 5: The only Knicks basketball movie I could really find. David Eddie,

641
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 5: your thumbs are Opera thumbs down on.

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00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 3: Eddie thumbs up on Eddie. Eddie's pretty bad. Eddie is

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Speaker 3: I'll be thumbs down on Eddie.

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00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 2: Eddie is.

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Speaker 3: Eddie is only I think interesting as a as a

646
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 3: sort of document of like mid nineties kind of as

647
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 3: the Knicks are starting to curdle, like like latesh nineties

648
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 3: vibes on the Knicks. We do I think we maybe

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00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 3: win the division in Eddie, we don't win the finals.

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00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: I think we go to the playoffs.

651
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 5: I think they yeah, hang a banner from winning the

652
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 5: division in Eddie would be incredible.

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00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: I should do that.

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Speaker 3: The only I'm trying to think in one of the

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Speaker 3: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles move he's the live action one,

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Speaker 3: there's an extended sequence at MSG with like lou Ahmanson

657
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Speaker 3: like like really like a really terrible nixt team, like

658
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Speaker 3: is on that team. It's like our kind of like

659
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Speaker 3: end of the day, end of the era, like mellow

660
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Speaker 3: sort of stuff, and that that's a tough that's a

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Speaker 3: tough look like it now like fighting somebody.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I gotta find that I haven't kept up to

663
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Speaker 5: date with the Turtles live action franchise, and yeah, they're

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Speaker 5: up and down.

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Speaker 2: I would say fair enough.

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Speaker 6: Final one for you.

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Speaker 5: David Timothy Shallomey is the newest Knicks super fan. How

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Speaker 5: do you feel about having one of the finest younger

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Speaker 5: actors out there cheering for your team every night?

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Speaker 2: I feel great.

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00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 3: He's so for real, Like it's just so obvious that

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Speaker 3: he is a dork about the Knicks, like as much

673
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Speaker 3: as he's now enjoying like being this uh you know

674
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Speaker 3: court side mascot who's like mixing it up with everyone,

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Speaker 3: Like he is a dork about the Knicks, like he's

676
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Speaker 3: a huge sports doork and and uh so I think

677
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 3: he's got the bona fides, like I'm pro and I

678
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 3: do think as much as I enjoy all the kind

679
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Speaker 3: of you know, the Chris Rock, Ben Stellar, obviously Spike,

680
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 3: like all those guys, we need some we need some

681
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 3: fresh blood. Yeah, sort of like Nick celeb group, right,

682
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Speaker 3: Like he needs some new guys. And he's he's as

683
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Speaker 3: zingy and fresh as you get, right, like like.

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Speaker 6: The coolest guy out there.

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Speaker 5: He's of the same generation as all the guys on

686
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Speaker 5: the team. It's not quite the same as like you're saying,

687
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Speaker 5: Ben Stiller, Spike Lee different generations for sure, and he

688
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 5: definitely has the bona fide, Like it's awesome that you

689
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 5: can go back and see photos of Tim Shallomy hanging

690
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Speaker 5: out with Landry Fields and Mari Stodama. Are like tracking

691
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 5: them down outside of a playhouse or something.

692
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 3: Like that, saying like he was hanging out of MSG

693
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Speaker 3: when we sucked, like trying to get the attention to

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Speaker 3: Landry Fields. God bless Landry Fields. No defensey Landry Fields,

695
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 3: of course is who just Jeremy Lynz slept on the

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Speaker 3: couch of So yeah, we always value Landry Fields as

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Speaker 3: a contribution.

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Speaker 5: So the next just won a trophy. Do you think

699
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Speaker 5: Timothy will win a trophy this year as well?

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Speaker 3: I would predict him for Best Actor for Marty Supreme

701
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 3: Okay I Do, which is an excellent film, and he's

702
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 3: very very good in it. It's a real sort of

703
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 3: like you know, you know, leveling up moment for him.

704
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 3: His campaign, he's running right now a little unorthodox. Usually

705
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 3: when you want an oscar, you want to go to

706
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 3: La Press the flesh, talk to a lot of old people,

707
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 3: you know, go to some dinners. He's doing things a

708
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 3: little differently with the merch and the instagram lives and

709
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 3: all of this. I don't know if that will translate.

710
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 3: Maybe it will, maybe it won't. But he's really good

711
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 3: in that movie. That movie's out like in a week

712
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 3: or two. It's a great film.

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Speaker 1: Is he adopting the character Marty Supreme? Like in this

714
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Speaker 1: sort of press release I've heard people say that like

715
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: he's almost sitting character?

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Speaker 2: Is that true? Yeah?

717
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 3: Kind of like this kind of like Striver. It's a

718
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: sports movie. It's a ping pong movie, but it is

719
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Speaker 3: a sports movie. It's got the arc of a sports movie.

720
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Speaker 3: You know, It's got the kind of like ups and downs.

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Speaker 2: Okay, very cool.

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Speaker 3: It's got some electrifying ping pong if you guys. You

723
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Speaker 3: guys are really fun stuff.

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Speaker 5: Surprisingly good spectator sport ping pong, the way they're going

725
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Speaker 5: back and forth. David, Thank you so much man for

726
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 5: taking the time to speak with us. How can people

727
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Speaker 5: follow you hear you all.

728
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Speaker 2: This kind of stuff.

729
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 3: Look, I host blank Check with Griffin and Davi, which

730
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Speaker 3: is a movie podcast.

731
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Speaker 2: You guys should check it out if you like movies.

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Speaker 3: Uh So, you can find that on you know, all

733
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Speaker 3: the all the platforms for podcasting.

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Speaker 2: And really I'm just I'm David Sims at The Atlantic.

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00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 3: I'm David al sims on Twitter, but I don't really

736
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Speaker 3: use it anymore, you know, but I'm winding around.

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00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't know.

738
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Speaker 3: Yeah, what's up with that place? But I'm I'm lurking

739
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 3: and I'm I'm you know, I'm I'm having fun. But yeah,

740
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Speaker 3: check out briank check and you can read my phone

741
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Speaker 3: criticism at The Atlantic anytime.

742
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Speaker 1: And final question, because you did say, I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: you've been a longtime fan of the show here back

744
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: to the Basketball Jones Days. Do you have a favorite

745
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: memory from this weird show we've done for twenty years?

746
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I don't know. That's a I mean,

747
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: like really, the thing with you guys is the consistency.

748
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Speaker 2: More than anything there was just you.

749
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Speaker 3: Know, just you're one of the first sort of like podcasts.

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Speaker 3: You're one of the first podcasts.

751
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Speaker 2: Let them start there.

752
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Speaker 3: But uh, you know, as you guys sort of rose

753
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 3: rose up, and you know, then you went over to

754
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 3: NBA TV and you were on my dang TV sometimes

755
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 3: and you know, mixing it up with everybody like those

756
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 3: are you know, those were just exciting times.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. I mean, I remember when.

758
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Speaker 3: You guys went on the Chris Gethard Show a billion years.

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00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 3: Oh wow, you did, like you and you did commentary

760
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 3: commentating for like one of his rec League games or

761
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Speaker 3: something like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 1: You won't believe this. It was bizarre on the Chris

764
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 1: Catherd Show. Yeah, we were basically commentating on I guess

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00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: it was a recorded basketball game that they ended. Yeah,

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00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 1: we're in the audience, studio audience. Yeah, that was a

767
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: great memory.

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Speaker 2: That's a fond memory. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, David, thank you so much for joining us here.

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Speaker 1: Everybody check out blank check check out David's writing at

771
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Speaker 1: the Atlantic, and good luck to your knicks. You got

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Speaker 1: the cup. Now try and go get the lob.

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Speaker 2: Let's go get it. Thanks, let's go get it.

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Speaker 1: Happy holidays, man, Thank.

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Speaker 2: You so much, you too. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna take a quick break. When we

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Speaker 2: I saw?

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Speaker 6: He's poised to play? Yeah, he is poised for this

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks again to David Simms for joining us

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Speaker 1: here on No Ducks. Hit the like button, subscribe podcast listeners,

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Speaker 1: five star ratings and reviews. If you enjoyed that. Let's

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Speaker 1: pivot here to something else. Earlier this week, the Athletics

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Speaker 1: Zach Harper decided it was the perfect time to break

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Speaker 1: up the NBA trade season into tiers of teams that

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Speaker 1: will likely have different motivations for completing or not completing

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Speaker 1: any deals as we get closer to the deadline. I

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Speaker 1: thought this was a good way to take a look

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Speaker 1: at like the total NBA landscape when it comes to

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Speaker 1: trade season. And I'm interested to hear your takes. That's

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Speaker 1: watching and listening your opinions on like maybe squad or

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00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: two from each tier. Maybe you disagree that they're even

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00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: in the tier to begin with, maybe you think they

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Speaker 1: should be in another one, and maybe you have a

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Speaker 1: trade idea. Whatever, we'll talk it out here. So let's

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Speaker 1: jump right into it. Tier one. This is from Zach Harper. Again.

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Speaker 1: I'll make sure to link to this in the show notes,

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Speaker 1: but Harper's buyers to compete. Tier one. Now, this is

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Speaker 1: the biggest tier. Most teams in this tier than all

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Speaker 1: the others. There's five tiers in total. I'll run through

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Speaker 1: these for the podcast listener, but you're seeing them here

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Speaker 1: on YouTube. He's got the Pistons and he's got like

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Speaker 1: a little motivation for each team here. Pistons get another

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Speaker 1: offensive creator slash scorer. The Knicks get Yannis or another

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Speaker 1: bench piece. You'll notice there are a lot of get

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Speaker 1: Yannises here in the teams. Maybe competing bucks bring in

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Speaker 1: what you can to make you honest happy. Test has

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Speaker 1: talked about that. The Hawks aggressively swing for another star.

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Speaker 1: The Spurs get Yannis or some depth that power forward.

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Speaker 1: The Raptors a tier you're scoring to help them bully

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Speaker 1: a bit more so some big on the team. The

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Speaker 1: Heat get Giannis or more shooting, the Pelicans bringing veterans

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Speaker 1: to help mold the youth. The Blazers bring in some

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Speaker 1: outside shooting, and the Bulls bring in a high level score.

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Speaker 1: So Test, we'll start with you here. This tier one

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Speaker 1: buyers to compete. What do you want to begin with.

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Speaker 7: Let's start with those Pistons, because I think they should

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00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 7: give their team as it is assembled, a run together.

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Speaker 7: And some may say they did that last year. Why

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Speaker 7: not give it a shot. I think they're way better

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Speaker 7: and just way more developed than last year, because I

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Speaker 7: don't think they were fully formed last year. Asar Thompson

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Speaker 7: was playing sort of spurts because of the blood clots

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Speaker 7: that he had going on, so he wasn't playing full minutes.

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Speaker 7: Jade and Ivy wasn't even playing at all, And Jalen

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Speaker 7: Duran has just become such a new player, so to

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Speaker 7: go get another big that would kind of overlap his

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Speaker 7: skill set doesn't really make sense to me. And I

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Speaker 7: think Zach focused on getting another score, another creator, and

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Speaker 7: Jade and Ivy is that guy. And I think right

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Speaker 7: now is the guy that people are talking about as

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Speaker 7: the guy that they would deal. But I don't think

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Speaker 7: he looks anywhere close to what he was even last

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Speaker 7: year before he got hurt, even before he got his

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Speaker 7: leg taken out from Cole Anthony. So he's got to

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Speaker 7: take some time to get ready and get into it,

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Speaker 7: and I don't think you deal him.

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Speaker 2: I know I've made the comparison.

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Speaker 7: Like the Houston Rockets moved on from Jalen Green, this

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Speaker 7: could be the Pistons moving on from Jade and Ivy,

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Speaker 7: not because they have similar first names, but because there

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Speaker 7: are similar, you know, points early in the career where

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Speaker 7: maybe they're not a creator, not a great score, but

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Speaker 7: Jay and Ivy just hasn't played enough, so I think

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Speaker 7: this full year gave it one more shot with the Pistons,

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Speaker 7: at least before they decide that we are sort of

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Speaker 7: the Houston Rockets of the East and we need to

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00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 7: piece a few pieces together.

873
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 2: I got you.

874
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: I got you, So you would probably remove them, as

875
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: what you're saying from this.

876
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 2: Tier, they're not going to make a move. I don't think, okay,

877
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: And I think they should.

878
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 5: I think it's interesting that they're here, and I think

879
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 5: they should be here, And I was kind of happy

880
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 5: to see them being linked to MPJ via low level

881
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 5: Slopsman insidery. Oh yes, Tobias Harris expiring contract. IVY is

882
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 5: going to be hitting his qualifying offer, looking for his

883
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 5: second contract coming up so he could go into.

884
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 6: Restricted free agency.

885
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 5: The fit with MPJ makes sense to me from a

886
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 5: theoretical standpoint, like, if he's somewhere in between MPJ and

887
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 5: Denver and MPJ and Brooklyn, does he want to go

888
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 5: back to being a role player because Kate is the guy?

889
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah?

890
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 5: And then Duran is the number two guy at Thompson,

891
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 5: maybe ahead of him in the pecking order or at

892
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 5: least in the hierarchy, maybe not the offensive pecking order.

893
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 5: But if MPJ could switch between like primary.

894
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 2: Scorer and role player mode.

895
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 5: I think that kind of makes sense to do that,

896
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 5: for it would be basically Harris Ivy and a protected

897
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 5: future first round pick.

898
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 6: I think the Nets would probably do that.

899
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 5: Turning Cam Johnson into half a season of MPJ and

900
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 5: then two first rounders is nice work. You could also

901
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 5: re sign Ivy in the summer if.

902
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 6: They wanted to.

903
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 5: It kind of comes down to would they rather pay

904
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 5: Tobias Hairir and Ivy or MPJ going forward.

905
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 6: I can see it working either way.

906
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 5: The thing with the Pistons is they don't play the

907
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 5: Knicks until January fifth, so I kind of have a

908
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 5: hard time knowing how they compete against each other right now,

909
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 5: because you know, the Knicks beat them in the playoffs

910
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 5: last year. The Knicks are rolling right now, but the

911
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 5: Pistons have had the best record in the Eastern Conference

912
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 5: for the entire season.

913
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: They look great.

914
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 5: They just haven't had to go against each other yet,

915
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 5: and I think maybe they see how things go in

916
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 5: that January fifth meeting and then kind of makes them

917
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 5: determinations there since they would have still another month going yeahward, that's.

918
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: A good point. They're twenty one and five right now.

919
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: The Pistons are they obviously lead these to say it that, yeah,

920
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: twenty one and five, and like if you look at

921
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 1: their upcoming schedule, just to end the calendar year, they

922
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: go on a West coast road trip, but not against

923
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: like really elite teams. They play the Mavericks in Dallas tonight,

924
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: then they have a home game against the Hornets. Then

925
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: that road trip, like I said, Portland, Sacramento, Utah, the Clippers,

926
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: and then the Lakers. That takes us to January first,

927
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: Like you know, I just listed the teams. They could

928
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: very easily win five, maybe even six of those seven games.

929
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: Let's say, so we're looking at like a record that's

930
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: like gonna be flirting with like sort of close to

931
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: like thirty and seven at that point. And I'm with you,

932
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: TK can't wait for that January fifth game to play

933
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: the Knicks because that's like it feels like those teams

934
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: might have to go through each other. I know there's

935
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: the whole Tatum possibly coming back for the Celtics. Maybe

936
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: the Cavs figure things out. Other squads like the Magic,

937
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 1: but I don't know they're going to collide at some point. Yeah,

938
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: and I want to see them in the regular season,

939
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: to see like how they shape up against.

940
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, their and their series was ridiculously good last year,

941
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 7: and it feels like the Knicks have leveled up a

942
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 7: little bit. And if I'm in the Pistons, I'm looking

943
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 7: at my guys to level up as well. Because we've

944
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 7: seen Jalen during do it. Asar Thompson is doing it,

945
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 7: but I think you want to see him at least

946
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 7: play through a full season of non blood clots, because

947
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 7: he had to deal with that last year coming back

948
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 7: and Jaye and Ivy. Really he's only played eleven games

949
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 7: this year and so he hasn't looked anything like his

950
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 7: ability yet and so I want to see him see

951
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 7: if you can get close to what he was last

952
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 7: year when he was forty six forty one from three.

953
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 7: The guy can bawl, and so I do want to

954
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 7: see that. Tobias Harris, of course, he's not a long

955
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 7: term guy for Detroit, So if he's the piece that

956
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 7: you're moving on from, sure you think about it. You

957
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 7: definitely think about it. But this Pisons team is stacked

958
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 7: to be at twenty one five and not really playing

959
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 7: all their guys all that much.

960
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 2: It is awesome.

961
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, are there any teams other teams from that list

962
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: that you wanted to touch on?

963
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 5: It literally made me laugh that the Bulls are in

964
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 5: Tier one here, buyers to compete, compete.

965
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 2: For what your love.

966
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 5: Unfortunately I'm locked in and I'm a loyal guy. OK,

967
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 5: But they're a half game up on the Bucks for

968
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 5: tenth in the Eastern Conference right now. I think they

969
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 5: should be in Tier two selling for a lottery odds, right.

970
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 5: They could also be in Tier five Stan Pat and

971
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 5: guess what, You're still going to have good lottery odds.

972
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 6: But the fact that they are.

973
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 5: Here and the buyers to compete tier just tells you

974
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 5: the opinions of the Bulls.

975
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 2: Everybody knows they're going to try and make a win

976
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 2: now move and they shouldn't make a win now.

977
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 6: They should not. They simply shouldn't.

978
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about the Raptors. We don't need

979
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: to talk about them, but the Hawks and Spurs on

980
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: this list, in this tier it makes sense. But I

981
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: think what we've come to the realization is if the

982
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: Hawks are making a deal, Jalen Johnson's not going to

983
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: be in it, And if the Spurs are making a deal,

984
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: I don't think Stephan Castle is going to be in

985
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: it or Dylan Harper at this point, and obviously Wemby,

986
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: and then maybe there's a lot of other guys that

987
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: are possibly could be moved. But those star guys, those

988
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 1: what appear to be either all stars are turning into

989
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: all stars and all NBA talent in the Spurs case,

990
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: you can't trade them at this point.

991
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: You can't.

992
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: You've got something there, and obviously on a cheap contract

993
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: with the rookie contract in the Spurs case. So we'll see,

994
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: all right, next tier sellers for Lottery Night four teams

995
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: in this bunch, we've got the Dallas Mavericks trade motivation,

996
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: their big men are available and they own their pick

997
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: Utah Jazz don't mess up getting too many wins, the

998
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: Kings fire sale to get off those veteran deals, and

999
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Nets gather their assets and ensure lottery odds.

1000
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: Of those four tasks, which one jumps out.

1001
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 7: To you, well, Dallas does because they have to start

1002
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 7: losing losing games to get really down low in the

1003
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 7: lottery numbers just to be able to get that accompanying

1004
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 7: piece for Cooper Flag. You want to finish as low

1005
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 7: as possible. But with all these teams below you, right here,

1006
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 7: right now, Sacramento Clippers, Pelicans, Charlotte, Brooklyn, Indiana, Washington, you

1007
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 7: got to start doing it now because Kyrie Irving is

1008
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 7: coming back. I don't think he's buying everybody go karts

1009
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 7: for Christmas because he's not coming back.

1010
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: To see the video, Oh.

1011
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: I could not stop laughing when Kyrie Irving pushed over

1012
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: the robot. I didn't care about the golf carts. Him

1013
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: pushing over the robot was one of the funniest things

1014
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: of the years.

1015
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: That's hilarious.

1016
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 5: You can tell he feels legit bad because somebody's like, yeah,

1017
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 5: They're like, yeah, push it.

1018
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: And he really pushes it. Were they expecting it wasn't

1019
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:51,439
Speaker 1: going to fall over?

1020
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 2: I think?

1021
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,479
Speaker 6: So you hear somebody say you can.

1022
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: Try thought.

1023
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 6: Was awesome.

1024
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 7: You think if Kyrie's pushing it, he knows it can

1025
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 7: get up right, Like he's just saying, screw this thing,

1026
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 7: I'm breaking it because he did it didn't get.

1027
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 6: Up standing up.

1028
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 1: Come on, man, come on, come back to me checking

1029
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: on it later.

1030
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 7: You can see him like flipping, yeah exactly. But they're

1031
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 7: they're a really interesting team. He also bought a golf

1032
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 7: carts which are souped to the max for all his teammates,

1033
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 7: So he's not going anywhere. He's a freaking all NBA

1034
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 7: type of player when he comes back. So you gotta

1035
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 7: start losing now essentially you can't. You're gonna start winning

1036
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 7: gamesh Kyrier rings back and maybe soon you know.

1037
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 2: It's why bring him back?

1038
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: Is the counter to that?

1039
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 2: Just to say, hey, sit, he's a ballplayer.

1040
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 7: I don't think he's gonna go fix the robot. You

1041
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 7: can tell a ballplayer to sit, but the guy, they're

1042
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 7: not far for there one game out of the playing

1043
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 7: they're not far at all, So I don't think he's

1044
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 7: gonna sit.

1045
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 2: Uh.

1046
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 7: So they're in an interesting spot where, yeah, Derek Levely

1047
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 7: done for the season. The Anthony Davis thing is very

1048
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 7: very interesting, but I think the going to win games.

1049
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 5: They've started winning since Davis came back, and even he

1050
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 5: hasn't been able to be on the court the entire time.

1051
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 5: They do have the eighth best lottery odds now, like

1052
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 5: you don't necessarily have to have top four lottery odds

1053
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 5: that we've seen recently since things have been smoothed out.

1054
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 5: But I think the MAVs and the Jazz are both

1055
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 5: in kind of similar positions and that's why they're both

1056
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 5: in this tier.

1057
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 6: Ye selling to lose.

1058
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 5: Makes the most sense from a team building standpoint, like

1059
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 5: both of these teams want to get their pick this

1060
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 5: season as good as it can be. The Thunder get

1061
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 5: the Jazz pick if it falls outside of the top eight.

1062
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 5: Currently Utah has the tenth best odds, so that pick

1063
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 5: would go to Okay, see if things go chalk as is.

1064
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 5: But from a development standpoint, like the MAVs want to

1065
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 5: win games, they probably want Kyrie Irving to come back

1066
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 5: to see what he's got, but also to get him

1067
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 5: ramped up for next season when they can actually try

1068
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 5: and make a step forward in the Western Conference.

1069
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 6: And the Jazz have just been caught in the tank.

1070
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 5: For three seasons now, they probably would like to see

1071
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 5: a little bit of progress, especially after signing to markten

1072
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 5: to a big deal last year. Maybe they don't trade

1073
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 5: him once again. They say they want to build around him,

1074
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 5: but I'm sure as he gets older and older further

1075
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 5: into his career, he would like to see a little

1076
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 5: bit of positive.

1077
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 2: Momentum some wins.

1078
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 5: So I think they're kind of caught in weird places

1079
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 5: where it's like, do we actually want to sell here

1080
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 5: and get worse and have a disappointing season, or do

1081
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 5: we want to try and make something happen and look

1082
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 5: like fools in June?

1083
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Utah has been whiffing on the draft over and

1084
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 2: over and over.

1085
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: Yeah some time, like the draft doesn't exist, is my

1086
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: opinion to them. I'm with you, tra like this, this

1087
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: is a franchise that has gone down in wins for

1088
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: like five consecutive seasons. Like this used to be, of

1089
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 1: course a fifty win team and then was into the

1090
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: high thirties, then it was into the low thirties, you know,

1091
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: and just sort of keeps going down, down, down, what

1092
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: seventeen wins last year, obviously trying to bottom out, trying

1093
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: to like hopefully hit in the lottery odds. And you know,

1094
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: they got a good player I think in Aast Bailey,

1095
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 1: but didn't get the Cooper flag of it all. Stop

1096
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: doing that, I think there. I don't think I would

1097
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: have them here. I think they've got some piece. They're

1098
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: obviously well coached.

1099
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 7: Just play basketball, play basketball, sniff, don't worry about it. Yeah,

1100
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 7: I think I think that's why they they don't sell

1101
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 7: because they keep whipping and because Larry looks good. The

1102
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 7: growth of count a George helps out. There's an Ace

1103
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,720
Speaker 7: Bailey there. We'll see what he can becomes. They're playing

1104
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 7: extremely slow, So the question is do they sell Larry

1105
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 7: Mark's with what what?

1106
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 2: What?

1107
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 7: They go?

1108
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: Well? Stay what they what they got because it's decent.

1109
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 7: It's very very decent here, it's a it's solid right now.

1110
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 7: The Sacramento one feels like that's the one. Where are

1111
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 7: they finally going to pull the plug? Because they keep

1112
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 7: going to this here? You know, it's it's like the

1113
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 7: Shuggle Bulls in the West. Yeah, we keep on being mediocre.

1114
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 7: Every every single player's mediocre. But are you going to

1115
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 7: finally give up on Drozen or and or Levine? But

1116
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 7: what are they going to get for them?

1117
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the question.

1118
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 5: But at least it's a new front office for Sacramento,

1119
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 5: so they're not tied necessarily to Rosen Levine Sabonis trifecta.

1120
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 6: But that was my big question was like who has

1121
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 6: trade value on the Kings?

1122
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 5: Like I think a team, a team could talk themselves

1123
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 5: into Monk, Yeah, for sure, as the team could talk

1124
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 5: themselves into Keon Ellis, but they have such small contracts

1125
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 5: that they're probably not bringing a player back, maybe like

1126
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 5: a late late first round pick, maybe even seconds, you know,

1127
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 5: so not huge hauls, because I think draft picks are

1128
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 5: going to become even more closely held onto by these

1129
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 5: teams in the apron era, just because the cost control

1130
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 5: on a good rookie is good for building your teams

1131
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 5: out there. So I don't know, you can see de

1132
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 5: Rosen on other teams, like that's a guy that you

1133
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 5: can at least understand how he fits into teams where

1134
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 5: you're like, Okay, we've got a guy who can come and.

1135
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 2: Be a scorer.

1136
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, he probably needs to be a sixth man at

1137
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 5: this point in his career. But otherwise it's like Sabonis

1138
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,439
Speaker 5: is gonna cost a lot, I think, And I mean

1139
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 5: we've both had to answer questions do you want the

1140
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 5: Bowls or the Raptors to trade for sabonas it's a

1141
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 5: no for three of us. And then the other thing

1142
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 5: is Levine, Like I know, the kind of like poking

1143
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 5: around on Levigne just because they need some other scorer

1144
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 5: out there. But I don't think that's the thing that

1145
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 5: keeps gan us interested in the walk.

1146
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 4: No.

1147
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,240
Speaker 2: I think there's two tiers.

1148
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 7: There's the DeRozan and some DeRozan and Levine tier where

1149
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 7: they ain't get much for them. But then there's this

1150
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 7: the bonus tier where you have to give up some

1151
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 7: stuff for subonus. Now him coming back, you know he's

1152
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,439
Speaker 7: going to play. He's consistently. It's like what David simm

1153
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 7: said about the basketball Jones Slash the starters, slash no dunks.

1154
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 7: They're extremely consistent. That's the thing about them. That's the

1155
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 7: thing about the bonus. He's gonna play. He's gonna play

1156
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 7: a ton he is he a superstar? No, he's not

1157
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 7: your number one type of guy, but he's going to

1158
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 7: be there. He's going to be there playing. So that's

1159
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 7: that's the guy to me that they have to give

1160
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 7: up on in order to get something back because the

1161
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 7: other guys, what are they getting back for DeRozan, who

1162
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 7: it would be great to see him as a six

1163
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 7: man for sure, to score off a bench somewhere.

1164
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: I'm preparing myself for whatever trade that we get from

1165
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: the Kings this deadline for it to be bad for them.

1166
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 1: Whatever they're getting back now, I mean perfect world. They're

1167
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 1: hoping probably to go back to the King's Bulls comparison.

1168
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: They're probably hoping they can get off of Sabonis for

1169
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: what the Bulls, excuse me, the Magic did obviously when

1170
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: they traded Vucevic sort of to the Chicago Bulls and

1171
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 1: sort of what they got back for that. I'm assuming

1172
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: the Kings would be ecstatic with some sort of return

1173
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: like that in terms of like Wendell Carter Junior being

1174
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: the sort of the piece of that, and obviously draft picks.

1175
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: But whatever it is, this is going to be bad,

1176
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 1: like they get back from these guys.

1177
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And you said.

1178
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: They're like they're a mediocre team. The problem is they

1179
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: have been. They're not this year. They're just bad.

1180
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 7: There's twenty so that would be a good sign that

1181
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 7: Scott Perry, who took over in April, would finally pull

1182
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 7: the plug on this team. But in the off season

1183
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 7: he wouldn't got Dennis Ruder because he thought they'd.

1184
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 5: Be good another guy who could be traded. I do

1185
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 5: believe Shooter is a guy that loves to get traded

1186
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 5: at the deadline. The good thing for the Kings is

1187
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 5: that they're ethically tanking right now, Like you're saying they're

1188
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 5: six and twenty. They've got tied for the third best ads.

1189
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 5: With their guys playing, they don't need to trade anybody

1190
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,919
Speaker 5: to be bad. They just need to keep playing.

1191
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, maybe all right, next one here, Tier three,

1192
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 1: cutting apron strings. All right, we're getting into the books

1193
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: here with this tier from Zach Carper got the Boston

1194
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: Celtics on this list. In this tier, still a little

1195
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 1: over four million in the first apron, Calves twenty two

1196
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: million into the second apron. For this is the question

1197
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: from Zach lost to your Bulls last night? Yikes, like

1198
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: fifteen and thirteen. Now I think Cleveland is the Warriors

1199
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: are about two hundred and sixty four thousand dollars away

1200
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: from the second apron, and then the Clippers are about

1201
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: a million away from the first apron. So, Trey, I'll

1202
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: start with you on this one of these teams. What

1203
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: intrigues you here with these teams? And maybe you're just

1204
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: looking at the books. It's the Calves for sure. They've

1205
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: got the highest payroll in the league this season. They're

1206
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: currently ninth in the Eastern Conference. They look terrible against

1207
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: the Bulls last night. Bull shot fifty five percent. It

1208
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: was easy pickings for them the entire night twenty two

1209
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: million over the second apron, like Zach says, which cost

1210
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: them one hundred million in luxury taxes.

1211
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 2: I don't care how many mortgages you sell.

1212
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 5: That's a lot of money, But it's also tough to

1213
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 5: shave that much off your cap with the rules that

1214
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 5: are in place. They've traded the control of every one

1215
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 5: of their picks until twenty nine, whether it be outright

1216
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 5: trades or swaps, mostly from the Donovan Mitchell trade, mostly

1217
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 5: from or a little bit from the DeAndre Hunter.

1218
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 6: Trade as well.

1219
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 5: The other tough part for them I feel like is

1220
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 5: Jared Allen. His trade value has got to be at

1221
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 5: an all time low right now. He seems to have.

1222
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 6: Taken a step back massively this season. Garland does seem

1223
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 6: to be getting things going a little bit here, but

1224
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 6: he doesn't look like the same player from an explosion standpoint,

1225
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 6: doesn't look nearly as quick, and they need him to

1226
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 6: be getting in the lane. So I don't know, because

1227
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 6: I think ideally for the Calves they would reorient their

1228
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 6: team around Donovan Mitchell, who's still playing at an All

1229
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 6: Star All NBA level, and Evan Mobley when he comes

1230
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 6: back from injury, but a Mobley is hurt right now.

1231
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 2: B Mitchell's twenty nine years old.

1232
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 5: He is signed until the twenty twenty seven season, has

1233
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 5: a player option for twenty seven twenty eight.

1234
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 2: How long is he going to want to be around.

1235
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 5: In Cleveland, I think is a question that's going and

1236
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 5: to start being asked around the Caves if they don't

1237
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 5: find out a way to turn this thing around. But

1238
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 5: with mobiley out, you look at the teams that like

1239
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 5: the players they are running out and that's just look like,

1240
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 5: who is this? Like Dean Wade had a spark at

1241
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 5: one point, it's not really happening for him. Right now,

1242
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 5: Hunter has gone to the bench. He's not doing anything.

1243
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 5: They're waiting for Max Strews to come back. But it's

1244
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 5: like Jalen Tyson fringe rotation rotation guy, Nakwon Tomlin. They

1245
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 5: just found him off the scrap heap rotation guy. They've

1246
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 5: taken a massive step back this year and now their

1247
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 5: books look really really bad for a team that's not

1248
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 5: performing horrendous.

1249
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 7: They look really really terrible. They don't have the fight

1250
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 7: within them at all. They put DeAndrea Hunter to the

1251
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 7: bench for the first time this season two months into

1252
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 7: the season, two months too late. It sure looks like

1253
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,959
Speaker 7: they just don't have that guy. Ethic Dean Wade would

1254
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 7: be a better option, just having him out there being

1255
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 7: that guy who was there last year, having the fight

1256
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 7: level to go along with gar who is looking better,

1257
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 7: some beautiful dancy moves against the Bulls, there's no doubt.

1258
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 7: But then the Jared Allen ain't working all that well,

1259
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 7: so that might be the guy, the primary guy. I

1260
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,479
Speaker 7: think that they focus on potentially moving just to shake

1261
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 7: up that starting lineup. You know, they they're hoping for

1262
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 7: Maxtrews to come back, but I think Alan might be

1263
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 7: the guy to come out of this one with some

1264
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 7: sort of semblance of last year. I think he'd be

1265
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 7: the guy to try and get them back to what

1266
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 7: they were last year. They would be somewhat tiny, but

1267
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 7: you can give Avambily lots of five minutes and see

1268
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 7: what they got.

1269
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 2: But it's Thomas Bryant.

1270
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 5: But I do wonder, like you know, we talked about

1271
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 5: the pacers of the team that would look at was

1272
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 5: looking for a center of the future. Jared Allen would

1273
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 5: be a nice role guy alongside Tyre's Halliburton for next season,

1274
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 5: But I don't know what the trade would be going back.

1275
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it will be.

1276
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,720
Speaker 5: Topping to run around out there, maybe, But yeah, Alan

1277
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 5: going off or Alan taking a step back and Garland

1278
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 5: being hurt for the majority of this season has not

1279
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 5: been good for the Caves because their only fallback plan

1280
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 5: is can we hit threes? And if they don't, it's

1281
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 5: a loss.

1282
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1283
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, As far as Aprons go, Brad Stevens and the Celtics,

1284
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 7: they must they must look at him and say you

1285
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 7: are a genius. Combined with a new ownership for them

1286
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 7: to say Drew Holliday, you're out, Chris aps porzingis you're out,

1287
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 7: and not to take long term contracts back for either

1288
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 7: of those guys to look the way they look right

1289
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 7: here right now. The owner, the new ownership, who spent

1290
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 7: by jillions of dollars on them, must be extremely excited

1291
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 7: for this team and what they are. Here comes the

1292
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 7: superstar coming back with Jason Tatum. They just have adapted

1293
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 7: to the current new NBA money books perfectly.

1294
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: You say that with confidence. You do believe we'll see

1295
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: Jayson Tatum here in the new year.

1296
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 2: I'm guessing. I'm guessing I ain't a duck. But it

1297
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 2: looks like it. Yeah, it does, talks look like it.

1298
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: And I think it's helped out by the fact that, like, oh,

1299
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: our team is pretty good, we might be in the mixture.

1300
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, we got some tough teams ahead of us,

1301
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: but maybe we can give him a fight if we

1302
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: got Tatum back.

1303
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he would be helpful for that team. Jalen Brown.

1304
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 5: I think even if Tatum comes back, he's not going

1305
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 5: to be all NBA Jason Tatum. But Jalen Brown has

1306
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 5: taking such a step forward this year as the number

1307
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 5: one guy that Tatum could slot in as a role player,

1308
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 5: Like they would love to have his rebounding out there.

1309
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 5: His three point shooting would be helpful as well. And

1310
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 5: then anything he gives them as like an isod dude,

1311
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 5: that's even.

1312
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 6: Butter on the roll.

1313
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 7: Butter on that Butter on the roll right there. Now,

1314
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 7: I don't know if you can trade for a big

1315
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 7: with what they have. Maybe somebody wants an Anthrony Simon's

1316
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 7: considering it's an expiring contract and somebody wants to take

1317
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 7: a chance on Afrey Simons. I get that, but he

1318
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 7: ain't fitting really well with Boston and the Celtics need

1319
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 7: to get big.

1320
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 2: So it's it's like.

1321
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 7: The discussion was they have to take a step back

1322
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 7: when Tatum went out. They did that and they said

1323
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 7: money wise, this is what we're doing.

1324
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 2: But it's almost like they're.

1325
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 7: Almost on that other part of the curve for they

1326
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,439
Speaker 7: want to add and so this is an interesting part

1327
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 7: they I think they still have an eye on the

1328
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 7: Eastern Conference. I know Tatum is not himself and they're

1329
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 7: bigs are what they are, but why not why.

1330
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Speaker 1: Not Tier four gaining assets a couple teams. We've got

1331
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: six teams total. Phoenix Suns trade motivation, should try and

1332
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: get more assets to move Pacers. Assets for them would

1333
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: be big for next season. Seventy six ers. Darryl Moury

1334
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: loves assets more than anything. The Grizzlies. They Broadway shows.

1335
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: He does love Grizzlies. They can move a vet for

1336
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: some future assets. The Wizards they've prioritized cap space to

1337
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: acquire assets. And the Hornets they're happy to be a

1338
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:37,919
Speaker 1: third team for a pick. Yes, that's true. They've proven

1339
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: that before even uh tray of these teams. What's got

1340
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 1: your eye?

1341
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 6: This actually really upset me.

1342
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 5: Okay, why would Zach not use the word assets for

1343
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 5: the Hornets. He used it in every other line.

1344
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think by that point, Oh, you're right, he

1345
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: did happy to be a third team for assets. Yeah. No, no,

1346
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: he wanted to pick.

1347
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 5: Come on, that's ridiculous to me. I mean the Daryl

1348
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 5: Moury question, I think interesting the seventy six ers. They've

1349
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 5: had kind of a surprising season, building their team around

1350
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 5: Tyrese Maxi and guard play, and they're just happy to

1351
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 5: get anything from Paul George and Joel Embiid right now.

1352
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,439
Speaker 5: So I do wonder what they do. But the team

1353
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 5: that really interested me was the Washington Wizards. Bad season

1354
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 5: for the Wizards, but they do have two big time

1355
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 5: expiring contracts. Thirty three million dollars for Chris Middleton, thirty

1356
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 5: million dollar for CJ McCollum. These were guys that when

1357
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 5: they were brought to Washington was like, oh, maybe they'll

1358
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 5: rehab their value and be able to ship them out.

1359
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 5: I don't think you're getting a first round pick for

1360
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 5: either of these guys, but I do wonder if there's

1361
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 5: teams out there that would be interested in either Middleton

1362
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 5: or McCollum to be a bench scorer. Or a big

1363
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 5: shot taker when they absolutely need it, more than likely

1364
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 5: like their buyout guys, because you have to give up

1365
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 5: a lot to get to thirty million dollars for.

1366
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Speaker 6: Either of them.

1367
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Speaker 5: But I was a little bit interested because McCollum in

1368
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 5: particular has had a couple of really nice games this year.

1369
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 5: He's got two forty point games, can still get to

1370
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 5: a shot when he needs to.

1371
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 2: And when it.

1372
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Speaker 5: Comes to playoff time, we're always looking for those guys

1373
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 5: that can win you a quarter.

1374
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: That's right, a quarter. Yeah, he really could. I think

1375
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: he still could. Of those two for sure, he seems

1376
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: more likely to like warn any sort of return from

1377
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: a team that could convince himself, oh yeah, we had McCollum,

1378
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: and he's a guy that can help us in a

1379
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: playoff series.

1380
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, more than Middleton I think at this point.

1381
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, like DeRozan, you know, he's a different type of player.

1382
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 7: But those guys need to be sent somewhere. Ce J

1383
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 7: McCall needs to be sent somewhere right here, right now

1384
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 7: to try and win a quarter. Yeah, and Derozane can

1385
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 7: do the same thing in the postseason, so that that

1386
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 7: should happen.

1387
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 2: I do think. I think Philly is just so.

1388
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 7: Lucky to be where they are right here, right now,

1389
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 7: that they don't they don't make any moose. They hope

1390
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 7: that some of their internal guys like Jereed McCain continue

1391
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 7: to grow. They hope their internal guys play basketball, Joel

1392
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 7: Embid and Paul George mostly so no one's taking those contracts.

1393
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 7: So I think they are where they are. The Grizzlies

1394
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 7: are fascinating to me, and that they're five hundred. John

1395
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 7: Morant sitting out, you know, every second game, it feels like,

1396
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 7: unfortunately with his lower extremities. They just fought so hard

1397
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 7: yesterday against Minnesota. Minnesota was a damn good second half

1398
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 7: team the last eight games, they're the number one second

1399
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 7: half team in the league offensively, defensively. And then the

1400
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 7: second half against Memphis, here come the fighters. They just

1401
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 7: misshots and Jock Landale of all people, just grabbing boards,

1402
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 7: hitting threes.

1403
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 6: Threes for Jockland Yeah, two massive ones in the fourth corner.

1404
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 6: He was going nuts out there.

1405
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

1406
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 7: Rudy Gobert's supposed to guard him, but Jack said, I'm

1407
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 7: going to the corner and Rudy said, go ahead, man

1408
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 7: shoot it, and Jock came up big the guys shooting

1409
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 7: like forty percent for three. That's why they're sort of

1410
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 7: just really really interesting at five hundred. Do they just

1411
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 7: keep what they are and just go forward and then

1412
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 7: just rely on Jaron Jackson as your number one guy

1413
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 7: and Cedric Coward as you sort of your number two guys.

1414
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 7: It's fascinating they have a bunch of pieces. Like coming

1415
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 7: into this year, we thought, all right, here was Vince Williams,

1416
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 7: Here comes g J.

1417
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 2: Jackson.

1418
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 7: Obviously last year they had a bunch of guys perform.

1419
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 7: You know, the rook performed last year, Jaylen Wells. It

1420
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 7: just seemed like it wasn't gonna go well. But maybe

1421
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 7: they had a bunch of good pieces. So do they

1422
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 7: just package something all those together or do they just

1423
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 7: try and go with what they are? Because Cedric Coward

1424
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:25,919
Speaker 7: is awesome watching him yesterday, if Eric Bledsoe was four

1425
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 7: inches taller, he'd be Sedria Coward. He would be so

1426
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 7: confident coming down the floor. He was saw an advantage.

1427
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 7: He said, all right, I'm going right at Bones Highland.

1428
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 7: I'm taking him to the room. Eric Bledsoe could have

1429
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 7: been that guy with a little bit more dribble in

1430
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,479
Speaker 7: his game. He made a couple of All Defensive teams.

1431
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 7: Cedric Coward is going to make more than two All

1432
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 7: Defensive teams. I think, yeah, that's good.

1433
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1434
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 7: Eric Bludsoe nearly made an All Star Game. Cedria Coward

1435
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 7: is definitely going to make an.

1436
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: All Star Game at some point.

1437
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:58,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, four inches. Eric Bloodsoe could have been the guy.

1438
01:03:58,480 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 7: But there wasn't.

1439
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: There an interesting team though, because now guys are coming

1440
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: back to their roster and they have a lot of

1441
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 1: guys like Brandon Clark is back. I was like, what, Yeah,

1442
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: he started one started last night, so he's there. I mean,

1443
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: I know it's silly because I'm you know, I'm the Canadian,

1444
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 1: one of the Canadians saying, oh, Max Prosper is playing

1445
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 1: for them, getting some opportunity. He's given them a little

1446
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 1: something a lot of guys, and I'm with you. It's like,

1447
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: what do they do here? Like are they still even

1448
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: trying to trade John Morant? Can they package a couple

1449
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 1: of guys into a bigger name to go along with

1450
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: some of their guys like Jared Jackson Junior is starting

1451
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: to get going here. I think he's streamed together a

1452
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: really nice week after a pretty slow start to his season.

1453
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, they're they're they're fascinating because they have different

1454
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 1: ways they could go here.

1455
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, and they make some highlights just prosper one highlight,

1456
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 7: not a lot of highlights, but one highlight. And as

1457
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 7: I said, Cedric have no doubt highlights. Oh yeah, Jock

1458
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 7: Landale an occasional highlight.

1459
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 5: More mylights than you would expect this year from jack Landale.

1460
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 5: I would say they haven't even had Pippin.

1461
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: Play yet at Jerome hasn't played.

1462
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 6: That's why they're here though. They've got a lot of guys.

1463
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe get a pickback, but they feel like they

1464
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 5: can lock themselves into a play in team. I mean,

1465
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 5: we'll see if he's able to stay on the court.

1466
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 5: He's out for like another three weeks at least, but

1467
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 5: I'm a little nervous about that.

1468
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 2: Ankle for him.

1469
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 5: But I think it's encouraging to see Jaron Jackson Junior

1470
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 5: has had two good games in a row. He scores

1471
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 5: exactly like Julius Randall. Now, I hadn't really ever thought

1472
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 5: about it, but it's like just dribble one hundred times

1473
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 5: and then eventually you get a spin move and you

1474
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 5: can finish at the lane. So it's fun to see

1475
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 5: those guys going each other.

1476
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 7: No that float or over Rudy Gobert bank shot, I've

1477
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 7: never seen that from him.

1478
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 2: I mean, that was that was sick.

1479
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 7: But it is interesting like Aldama hasn't even played to

1480
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 7: his performance that. Literally, you go down this freaking whole roster.

1481
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 7: There's a lot of capabilities, but what are they gonna

1482
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 7: do with them?

1483
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1484
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: Final tier Tier five Zaxa's standing pat these six teams

1485
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 1: unlikely maybe to do anything here Deadline Timberwolves, Oh that's

1486
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 1: that Carper's team trade motivation. Well, we'll be in rumors,

1487
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 1: but likely stuck now Lakers prioritizing the summer over the now.

1488
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: Magic kind of locked into this roster. I do agree

1489
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 1: with that one to some extent. Rocket's more likely to

1490
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: tinker in the summer. Nuggets, they're locked into this squad

1491
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 1: and the thunder Why mess with perfection? Zach Harper asks

1492
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 1: to start with you, of this bunch here, is there

1493
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: anyone you disagree with? Maybe that you're like, I.

1494
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 2: Know, I don't know.

1495
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 1: They can maybe do something.

1496
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1497
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 7: The interesting one is the Minnesota Timberwolves just to get

1498
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 7: another part literally to help out as far as the

1499
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 7: guard goes. Because I've watched Bones Highland, who's been given

1500
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 7: those minutes right here, right now. Sometimes you get a

1501
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 7: good Bones, sometimes you don't. I think you could use

1502
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 7: a Chris Paul in there, just to help out some

1503
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 7: of these young guys, whether it's Bones Island, who you

1504
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 7: may have rectified his career after the Denver scenario and

1505
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 7: how he wanted to play more there and didn't work out,

1506
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 7: and now he's getting Minnesota. I think it would be

1507
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 7: helped to have a Chris Paul put that arm around

1508
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 7: his show, doesn't try and help him out. Same with

1509
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 7: Rob Dillingham. So I think that would be the team

1510
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 7: of all of them to try something and to do

1511
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 7: it for Chris Paul and with Chris Paul, because the

1512
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 7: rest of them Lakers, Magic, Houston, Denver. Okay, see, I

1513
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 7: don't see it happening. I think those are pats.

1514
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, look, if you're Chris Paul and you're throwing

1515
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 1: a Halloween party, the guy named Bones better show up.

1516
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 1: What do you think about the Wolves, I guess, or

1517
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 1: maybe these other teams.

1518
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 5: I mean, the Wolves to me are the team that

1519
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 5: most in this tier needs to make a trade. I

1520
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 5: did laugh though, when I saw John Hollinger had Usman

1521
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 5: Jing as a trade candidate from the Thunder and it's like, Oh,

1522
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 5: they're not gonna They're probably not gonna pay him, so

1523
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 5: why not trade him for some more stuff down the road.

1524
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 5: They probably will do that if they want to make

1525
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 5: a move, they definitely could. They've got maybe two lottery

1526
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 5: picks coming in this year. They could get any player

1527
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 5: in the league they wanted. But yeah, the timber Wolves, man,

1528
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 5: they really I think do need a trade. They're two

1529
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 5: and eight against five hundred teams. You mentioned they have

1530
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 5: been the best fourth quarter team in the past couple

1531
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 5: of weeks for that and half yond a half team.

1532
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 5: But I also heard on the broadcast last night that

1533
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,919
Speaker 5: they hadn't had a lead after the first half since

1534
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 5: late November. It was their first lead after the first

1535
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 5: half last night against Memphis since November twenty fourth. Yeah,

1536
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 5: they're not good enough to be playing from behind like that.

1537
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 2: They always do.

1538
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:19,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think they.

1539
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 6: Needed to make a move.

1540
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 5: And for me, it is Randal, Like it would be

1541
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 5: a bit of a cell high on Randal because he's

1542
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 5: got this year left on his contract, next year left

1543
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 5: on his contract, and a player option for the twenty

1544
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 5: seven twenty eight season. He's been their most consistent player

1545
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 5: this year. I don't think he played very well last

1546
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 5: night against Memphis, but I don't know. I think he's

1547
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 5: most likely to either bring in some assets that they

1548
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 5: could use to get somebody else, or maybe another player.

1549
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,640
Speaker 5: Since he's making thirty million, they could get somebody.

1550
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:50,719
Speaker 6: Decent they can get to. They can get CJ.

1551
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 2: McCollum.

1552
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 5: I don't think that's the right guy, but I think

1553
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 5: they need to do something. They need some kind of

1554
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 5: shake up because I just don't think this team is

1555
01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 5: good enough to really make a run at the top

1556
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 5: four in the Western Conference. The four teams ahead of

1557
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 5: them seem clearly ahead of them to me, and you

1558
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 5: go back and like, look at their playoff run last year.

1559
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 2: It's awesome.

1560
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 5: They made the conference finals, but you can easily poke

1561
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,639
Speaker 5: holes in how they got there. They beat a Nuggets

1562
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 5: team that had two starters down basically m M.

1563
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to think of teams that would like

1564
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 1: be calling to inquire about Julius Randall. I am struggling

1565
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 1: with like a team like, yeah, like he is a

1566
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 1: good player, and I'm like, who is being agree I

1567
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 1: thoughts they are kind of stuck.

1568
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, maybe that's why they're in Tier five.

1569
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 5: That's right, Harper's rockets. I think also could use a

1570
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 5: guard upgrade. He says, this is like a team that

1571
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 5: he thinks would wait until the summer. They've got a

1572
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 5: lot of things that they could trade going forward. I

1573
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 5: think that they get an upgrade a Cog or Aaron Holiday.

1574
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 5: The only like bad contract they have right now is

1575
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 5: Dori and Finney Smith. But it's a pretty bad contract

1576
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:57,839
Speaker 5: considering the guy isn't playing and his sign for multiple

1577
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 5: years at this point. But they've got enough picks down

1578
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 5: the line that maybe you could encourage a team to

1579
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 5: take dfs and get the picks along with it and

1580
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 5: beef up your perimeter play.

1581
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 7: It's always fun time season. We always talk about this

1582
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 7: big name player, this big main player might get dealt.

1583
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 2: Usman Jiang definitely gonna get dealt. Okay, he's out.

1584
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 7: You know, he's a number eleven pick. I mean, it's

1585
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 7: a long time ago, but.

1586
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 2: That picked ahead of Jalen Williams. Yeah, that's why he

1587
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:31,759
Speaker 2: could get DELT. Hopefully it's not one of those trade seasons.

1588
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like it will be We're only the

1589
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,679
Speaker 2: small guys get dealt. The big guys will get delt.

1590
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 2: It feels like like bigger not usban Jangle. If there's

1591
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 2: gonna be way bigger. Oh god, so I hope feels

1592
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:44,759
Speaker 2: like yeah, Randall would.

1593
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 7: Be extremely extremely interesting. Last year, did you say, Holden,

1594
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 7: did you say they beat the Nuggets with two injured

1595
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 7: guys every time?

1596
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 2: About the thunder? They beat the Lakers and the Warriors.

1597
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, beat the Warriors. Sorry sorry I was mistaken.

1598
01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:58,799
Speaker 6: The Warriors without Steph Curry.

1599
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,719
Speaker 7: So they did have a path, you know, an older

1600
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,879
Speaker 7: Lakers team and then the older Warriors tea maybe.

1601
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 5: The Laker That's what I was doing. You're right, Lakers

1602
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 5: were playing six guys and then no stuff.

1603
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1604
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 7: Serious, So there's there's holes. Yeah, and it feels like

1605
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 7: they need something. That's that's what Anthony Edwards teams kind

1606
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 7: of are second half. Here we go, baby, that's it's

1607
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 7: it's it's so strange. They got to get it going.

1608
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,799
Speaker 7: That's why Chris Paul could fit. Oh gosh, it feels

1609
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 7: weird saying that.

1610
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he could fit, but like it makes sense,

1611
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 1: I know. But like, also, let's be honest, here, Chris

1612
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: Paul is not going to take you to the Promised Land.

1613
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 1: At this point of his.

1614
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 5: Career, Conley Bones is actually playing really really well.

1615
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:41,719
Speaker 2: Oh I liked him. You've got a cool celebration anytime

1616
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:45,679
Speaker 2: he makes it's like a love it double arm. Yeah. Yeah,

1617
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 2: I'm bones pilled right now.

1618
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 5: I don't necessarily believe Jim Peterson when he's telling me he's.

1619
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 2: A pass first point guard.

1620
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 5: He's a past first point guard who can score, not

1621
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 5: a score for his point guard who can pass. Because

1622
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 5: the first thing I ever saw Bones Island was him

1623
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 5: just like playing anybody who wanted in one on one

1624
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 5: at a park, come and face me at the park.

1625
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 5: I mean it does look different now he.

1626
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 1: Looks he's going one of his lumps a little bit.

1627
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1628
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 5: In the league, I have been humbled a little bit.

1629
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 5: He's got a believer in Tim Conley.

1630
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 2: He passes Bones man.

1631
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't have a lot of confidence in Bones

1632
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:22,600
Speaker 1: Highland winning New three or four playoff rounds Now. He

1633
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 1: ain't gonna, but is he is becoming a more mature player.

1634
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 1: I do agree with that all right. Thank to Zach

1635
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 1: Harper for the tears. That's a lot of fun. I

1636
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 1: appreciate him to put together that article. Appreciate me me

1637
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 1: reading it and then thinking that would be a great

1638
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 1: segment on the show, and I believe it was. We'll

1639
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 1: link to it in the show notes. Okay, well by,

1640
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 1: well by of the night. Well this is fun. It's

1641
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 1: sponsored today. Yes, bye Bunny's Karaoke Bar in Manchester, England.

1642
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Speaker 2: Awesome.

1643
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jake in the stream team before the show, he

1644
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 1: fired us over ten pounds. I guess what's the uh?

1645
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Speaker 1: What's the uh?

1646
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 2: Double?

1647
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1648
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Speaker 1: The raid on that right now?

1649
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Speaker 5: Wait?

1650
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1652
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Speaker 1: the band Wings Bunnies is your place?

1654
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Speaker 2: I love it?

1655
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Speaker 1: So Josh Giddy gets whoa boy?

1656
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 2: Thanks.

1657
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 1: Jake recorded his sixth triple double of the season twenty

1658
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:21,719
Speaker 1: three points, eleven boards, eleven assists as the Bulls beat

1659
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,679
Speaker 1: the Calves. Giddy eight of eighteen from the field, five

1660
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:28,759
Speaker 1: of eleven from deep, two steals, one block in thirty

1661
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 1: four minutes played. Check out the flow on that cap. Yeah.

1662
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 2: I think that was a career high. Five threes for

1663
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 2: Giddy I think they.

1664
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 1: Well really, yeah, he took eleven yep, it was open. Yeah,

1665
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 1: he was part of the game plan, I guess, and

1666
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 1: he was hitting them last night.

1667
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 7: I was so wrong with the pounds that Jake gave us.

1668
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:48,560
Speaker 7: Oh the double pounds. That's more Canadian thing pound to

1669
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 7: Canadian dollars one point eight four one point eight four

1670
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 7: Canadian dollars for a pound. But okay, usd where we

1671
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 7: are now, it's only one thirty four So anyway, thirteen

1672
01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 7: bucks thirteen bucks thanks Jake.

1673
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 6: What it's going to cost the sponsor?

1674
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 1: Hey man, we're making money. We did not expect to

1675
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Speaker 1: off who boy.

1676
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Speaker 6: Our most sellable segment.

1677
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1678
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1679
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Speaker 7: Sammy j ninety three, Andrew Hoe, Christian Hoe and now Jake.

1680
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Speaker 1: Wow, it's almost to keep it track. Yeah, I don't

1681
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 1: work in the books. I love it, I respect me.

1682
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 2: Or something wasn't it?

1683
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, Like I'm not good. I'm not good at keeping

1684
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 7: track of things. I saw, I saw a Sesame Street thing.

1685
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 7: That's why I got I got into the Snuffalopogus No

1686
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 7: Sesame Street.

1687
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 2: Recently, Sesame Street and.

1688
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 7: Their performers were on the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade.

1689
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 1: Okay, it's weird. Why is that weird?

1690
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1691
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 1: That's exactly what the parade's all about, Like all these

1692
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 1: characters for kids. Yeah, like SpongeBob, O Dora, teenage Man,

1693
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 1: Ninja Thurles. I saw performing fustal rhymes. I think I

1694
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 1: think Raphael Cool.

1695
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that clip.

1696
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 1: He definitely performed. I know that for sure.

1697
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 2: He was there.

1698
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's that guy. That guy has been every shape

1699
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 1: in his career. I was thinking about this.

1700
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 5: He used to be a master splinter and now he's

1701
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,799
Speaker 5: more like a ninja turtle. Yeah, or like a bebop

1702
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 5: and rock stick, that's what. He's got a huge belly,

1703
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 5: but he's like sort of ripped. I always find that

1704
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 5: look fascinating, Like the dude, but he's got like a

1705
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 5: weird belly. And then my bluster, my buster was skinny man.

1706
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 5: He was he's never stopped moving, tall, lanky, yeah, oh yeah,

1707
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 5: oh yeah, well I think so.

1708
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 2: He's never he's never been tall. You never we saw

1709
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:44,679
Speaker 2: him in person, I guess.

1710
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:46,639
Speaker 1: I mean he's right.

1711
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 5: Tall.

1712
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 2: It says he six one. Yeah, lies, I need a backing.

1713
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 2: We saw him.

1714
01:15:58,080 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 1: I've seen him.

1715
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 2: I didn't think he was six shorter than me, and

1716
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 2: I'm not.

1717
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 1: Because he's got so like he's got wider target. Now

1718
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 1: it's like it's deceiving now he is jacked.

1719
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 2: Though. All right, it's my favorite bust Of song. I

1720
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna go band gonna went.

1721
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,839
Speaker 1: Oh that's your fair. Now I'm more a little more earlier.

1722
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 1: I mean, I like, wu ha, put your eyes where

1723
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 1: my hands can see. I love that song. Uh, thinking

1724
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,759
Speaker 1: of his first first album, drawing a blank on song names.

1725
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 1: I saw Buster. You guys have heard this.

1726
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 2: He's great. Yeah, bust Around is great, A lot of classics.

1727
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 1: I love the Flip Squad too, man, the whole squad,

1728
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 1: the whole squad. I was down with Spliff Star.

1729
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 2: That's his gud man.

1730
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 1: I can't dig up.

1731
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 6: I couldn't think of a second Flip Squad member.

1732
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:51,719
Speaker 1: There's something lord or something.

1733
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 7: Uh, there's like I said, Q, somebody's got to ask

1734
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 7: David Sims what he thinks about bust Rhys because Buster

1735
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 7: Ryans performed the Knicks playoff game last season in last

1736
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 7: year's playoffs, so how much did he get paid? That's

1737
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 7: always the question. Okay, maybe because they went all out.

1738
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 7: I think to have Buster Rymes perform as your halftime show.

1739
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 1: It's pretty good.

1740
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1741
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:21,600
Speaker 7: Little Cam also performed. I think on another Oh, Mary J.

1742
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 7: Blige also out of a bunch of names, rolling into.

1743
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 1: Baby Baby Baby Sham Sharanya. I think was a guy

1744
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 1: Baby Shams. He was a guy in fliptball squad. It's

1745
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:35,560
Speaker 1: coming back. There's like a Lord guy now it's me.

1746
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 2: I gotta look.

1747
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 1: Did you look it up?

1748
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 2: Okay, let's have to pick them.

1749
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 6: Okay, you got.

1750
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 5: All these crazy dames. Chauncey Black, DJ Ice, Cold Mercy,

1751
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 5: I don't know have been later he.

1752
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,639
Speaker 1: Said, Lord have Mercy. It was Lord. I knew it.

1753
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 1: Oh Rampage, Yeah yeah, coolo.

1754
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 2: Okay, pick them tonight.

1755
01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 7: There's a ton of games, a ton of them, but

1756
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 7: I had to go with Golden State visiting the Suns.

1757
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 7: Golden State favored by two and a half, got on

1758
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:08,600
Speaker 7: by three or more. It's unbelievable. The Phoenix Suns have

1759
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 7: a far better record than the Golden State Warriors. Okay,

1760
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 7: it's not far better, but they're fourteen and twelve going

1761
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 7: up against Golden State thirteen and fourteen, and after all that,

1762
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:23,759
Speaker 7: Joe Lacob's email was publicized Talk and Steve Kerr saying

1763
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 7: for the future, we're starting our you know, our big three, Curry, Butler,

1764
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 7: and Draymond who is healthy and playing along with Moss,

1765
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 7: Moody and Quintin post. I had to look in just

1766
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 7: to make sure that they're all healthy, because I want

1767
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:35,639
Speaker 7: to see if Draymond is healthy.

1768
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 5: He is.

1769
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:39,839
Speaker 7: Noah Horford, No Pat Spencer tonight, personal reasons.

1770
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 2: What's going on?

1771
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 7: No Pat unfortunately, while the sons other than Jim Green

1772
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 7: Grayson Allen is questionable tonight. Injury slash illness, dash right

1773
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 7: knee soreness.

1774
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 2: It's like, what is it?

1775
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 7: I don't like in the in the box score, the

1776
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:01,639
Speaker 7: injury illness always means injury, but they always just put

1777
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 7: both in.

1778
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 2: They do it.

1779
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 1: They question you could have a banged up knee, your

1780
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 1: leg and also have the cold.

1781
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 2: You could, Yeah, I got the sniffles.

1782
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 5: I'm not giving it a go.

1783
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:12,600
Speaker 2: I don't want to hurt my knee.

1784
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 6: That makes sense. I'm already banged up, not feeling good

1785
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 6: in the gut.

1786
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:20,679
Speaker 7: Like Isaiah Livers, not a gut, but his livers.

1787
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 2: He's he's not playing either.

1788
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 7: He's got a right hip and a strain injury, so

1789
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:29,879
Speaker 7: he doesn't have an illness, although it says injury slash illness.

1790
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 2: It's weird, man, I don't like that.

1791
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 7: Let us know, we're supposed to be clear with people.

1792
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 7: Are people injured? Are they not playing tonight? You want

1793
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 7: to bet their prop Well, they're not gonna. You're not

1794
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 7: gonna be able to do your gambling, all right. No,

1795
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:46,600
Speaker 7: no trying to make a billion dollars or you're not

1796
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 7: getting this inside information? All right, there's no none of

1797
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 7: that type of gambling. We got to get around that.

1798
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 7: We've got to get around that. We gotta we got

1799
01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 7: to make sure people aren't doing illegally.

1800
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 1: My favorite deep cut Buster Rhymes song. Q Tip and

1801
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 1: Buster Rhymes had a song called NT great song. It's

1802
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 1: on the amplified Q Tip ELM good. Very short song

1803
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 1: though it's one of those songs where I'm like, damn,

1804
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 1: I wish it was longer. Just goes doesn't go on quick.

1805
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 1: It's too quick. Yeah, just stand it out like you

1806
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 1: only get like one. Yeah, it's like a quick one

1807
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 1: chorus I think type of song and they don't even

1808
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 1: hit you with the second one.

1809
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 5: Q Tip and Buster Rhymes great mix. Hell yeah, great

1810
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 5: on HELLI tribe called quest songs together. You got the

1811
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 5: guy with the high voice and you got the guy

1812
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 5: with the deep voice.

1813
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 1: That's right.

1814
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 6: You guys had so much success.

1815
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 1: That's right.

1816
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:34,639
Speaker 2: That's right.

1817
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 1: One guy's smooth, one guy's more crazy. So I need

1818
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 1: the Sons, by the way to cover I've lost eight

1819
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 1: straight here as I try and track down your record

1820
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 1: of eleven or twelve or river though it was, Let's

1821
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:50,679
Speaker 1: see if I can keep it going here to tk's

1822
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 1: on my side though, go Sons, Okay, fun show. Thanks

1823
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 1: to David Simms for joining us. Thanks to Zach Harper

1824
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 1: for the inspiration for the trade season tears. If you're

1825
01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 1: a fan of Survivor, it's our final No Bus of

1826
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Recapping the finale of Survivor forty nine

1827
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:11,599
Speaker 1: last night and talking about the trailer for Survivor fifty

1828
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,639
Speaker 1: Oh my god, are you a fan of mister Beast?

1829
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:17,639
Speaker 6: I love mister Beast.

1830
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 1: We can't get away from this guy. They put mister

1831
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 1: Beast in our All Star Games, they put mister Beast

1832
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 1: in our Survivor.

1833
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 2: Soon what's next?

1834
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 1: What else do we love? Collectively?

1835
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 2: Love?

1836
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 1: That's it? We only love Survivor and.

1837
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:34,799
Speaker 2: We love going to the pole to the pool.

1838
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 6: Yea, I gradually show up and mister Beast is there.

1839
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 2: I buy like a round of drinks.

1840
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 5: That you'd have to do some kind of you have

1841
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 5: to hold your breath underwater in Las Vegas for fifteen

1842
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 5: seconds and you'll get a bucket of michelob.

1843
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,640
Speaker 1: Would you let me give you a stunner into the

1844
01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 1: pool of mister Beast bought a round of drinks the

1845
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 1: Bamboo boys.

1846
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 2: Cool.

1847
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 1: Absolutely, we'll let you do it anyway. Pretty fun. Yeah, okay, anyway,

1848
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 1: no buffs one PM Eastern. That has his own YouTube page,

1849
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 1: so on podcast page. We are going to break down

1850
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 1: that finale in the after show and Survivor fifty mister.

1851
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 7: At the Olympics on the Olympics shame.

1852
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 2: That's a good one.

1853
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 6: He'll be there, it's in the US n l A.

1854
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, he won't be in in Italy. I don't think

1855
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 1: we'll see him for the winter.

1856
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 6: He can do his own Olympics, the Beast I mean

1857
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 6: Beast Games, right.

1858
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 1: He will, Yeah, he will, he probably will. He'll do

1859
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:42,720
Speaker 1: his own version of the Olympics, the Beast Olympics.

1860
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 6: You just said it.

1861
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:45,679
Speaker 1: You just called it and do it all right. Guys,

1862
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:47,679
Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us. We'll see you tomorrow

1863
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 1: for the Drop podcast at tenne em Eastern. Until then,

1864
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 1: Clipper Bos you.

1865
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 2: Heard it here first. Have a great time turn up.

1866
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 2: Love you guys awesome.

1867
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 7: Thanks for joining us, and remember mister Beast is everywhere.

1868
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 7: I saw him in a Mark Rober video my kids

1869
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 7: were watching, because Mark Robert does engineering type videos.

1870
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 2: Mister Beast just shows up.

1871
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 1: It just shows up.

1872
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 2: He's never here, that.

1873
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 1: Guy, He's like Joe Henry. Say his name, mister beast face.

1874
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 1: Today people