WEBVTT - #214 - Emilio Rojas 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.720 Bula Camp Podcast Special guests in here my guy Milio Rojas. 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:06.440 What up? Man? Welcome man? So what worst of all? Millio? 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:09.800 How's it living downtown La? We were just talking. You've 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:11.400 been in LA for a while now, I've been in 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:13.160 LA for a while. I was decided it was a 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:16.200 good idea to move to fucking goddamn skid Row. Bro. 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:17.920 I don't live I don't live in a tent. Bro, 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:20.439 I'm not like, how's it been living in a tent 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:22.880 and using porter potties? Was import the last time you 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:26.000 shat in front of somewhat stew in the corner? Yo? 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:28.440 Downtown is crazy, bro in La. But this is La 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:32.400 in general, man, Like coming from LA in general for sure. Yeah, 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:35.360 but downtown it is fucking insane. Well, because it's all 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:38.760 localized into like a small area like skid Row is 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:40.839 some crazy shit. I've been around the world. I've never 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:44.800 seen anything like that. Yeah, skid Row is very uh, 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:46.680 you know, it's always been crazy, so it's not like 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:49.600 anything new, but it's it's definitely like like people choose 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:51.640 to be there. I think, well, I think some people 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:53.080 choose to be there, and I know like a lot 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:54.840 of people are just getting dropped off, like when the 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:57.639 prisons get overwhelmed or there's no mental health facilities, they 0:00:57.680 --> 0:00:59.480 just get dropped off. That's where I think when you 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:01.320 get let out of county the bus just that's what 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:03.640 I think. I think I heard that, but I can't speak. 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:08.840 I think you shouldn't think. I think people are just 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:11.679 getting dropped off. No, that's what I That's what I 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:14.679 was told. Oh I just never verified it. Yeah, shout 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:18.319 out to skid Row man. Yeah. I like watching just 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:21.520 random documentaries or like random YouTube blogs about skid Row 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:24.640 because when I walk over there, man, you walk over 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:27.320 there not maybe not in skin. I don't think Kev's 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:32.640 ever walked in just downtown in general. Wear them just everywhere. 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.080 Where's all the clubs at down there? I be walking 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:38.000 through Crasmoke, Yeah, oh for sure, bro, Yeah, Spring Street 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:42.080 walking through Cracksmoke, Cracksmoke. You see people shoot up, Like 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:45.240 I saw this guy who was like dressed like a 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:50.760 fucking legit, like you know, fucking hype beast, young white kid, 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:54.520 fucking obviously had money with supreme out fucking fire ass 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:57.800 like hard to find new balances on right, And I 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:00.360 saw him walking and I was like, I was walking 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:01.840 past him when I was going into a spot, and 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.200 when I was walking back the other way, he was 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:06.200 like huddled up with all the crackheads, and he like 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:09.280 took his little fucking his little you know, his little man, 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:12.519 and he opens and he pulls out the brillo in 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:14.960 the crack and you just starts smoking crack with all 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:18.360 the homeless guys. And I was like, fuck, like, it 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:21.079 must be funner, Like that can't be a lonely drug, 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:22.640 Like it must be funner to be like, Yo, I'm 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:24.200 gonna go downtown and we'll find some people to smoke 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:26.239 crack with because it's better that way. It's a social 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:28.880 drug for sure. They're out there passing. Like you want 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:31.840 to be like the rich kids smoking crack alone at home. Nah, 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:34.040 that's when you really really lost. You just want to 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:35.640 be the rich kid smoking crack with it with all 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:37.440 the home with all the other crackheads. Yeah, and just 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:39.080 be like, yo, I'll see you guys in two years, 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.200 I'll be right here with you. At Le's crazy because 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:43.680 it's like you'll be in a place like skid Row 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:45.760 and there'll be like a chick with like fake titties, 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:49.240 homeless getting piped. I don't even know. But it's like, 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:51.520 you know, she came here for something else, she was 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:53.800 doing whatever, and then just the city just got her. 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:57.000 She got on that fetti wip yeah something, feedanol, Yeah 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:00.880 something bro. That meth. Meth is big out here. Feedanyl. 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:06.360 He focused on bro. I heard that they're smoking fentanyl now, 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:08.400 like they don't even want they know what it is. 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:11.560 They're like, no, we don't want uh, we want fentanyl. 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:14.040 They're used to smoking it now. Yeah, they built up 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.800 the tolerance. Imagine building up a tolerance. Well, that's what 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:19.400 happens with opioids, right, Like you had opium, then morphine, 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.800 than heroin. Yeah, you know, it's just foxies. Yeah, it 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:25.240 just gets stronger and strong sets. And now they're just like, 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:28.160 give me the fetti, give me the fucking let's do it. 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:36.840 It's crazy. Have you tried fetanyel I've been I've been 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:40.160 pretty pretty fortunate to not have tried. Just make sure 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.000 you're careful because you walk through the wrong cloud of 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:44.480 smoke down there, you might fucking Oh yeah, I might 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:48.160 have tried on accident a couple of times, and that's terrible. 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:52.360 By the way, free fetti wop totally unrelated happened. He 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:56.120 got locked up. He's in prison right now. What. I 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:57.600 don't know if it was fetanyl, but he got it 0:03:57.600 --> 0:03:59.360 was some drug ship he got. He got hit pretty hard. 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:00.880 I don't want to speak on his case because I 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:03.640 don't know the fact, but he's in us. Yeah, he's 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:07.240 locked up. He took a plea jeez. Yeah it sucks, man. Yeah, 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:09.320 So what's been going on with you? Man? I'm just working, man. 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:12.400 I just dropped a little like remix mixtape on industry 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:14.880 Beats called grip Tape because I've been skating a lot. 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:16.440 So I used to skateboard a lot when I was 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:19.400 a kid. You've been skating a lot? Yeah, Well, why 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:21.560 you look so shocked. I'm good, bro, I didn't know 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:24.400 you were a skater. I can skate really good. You 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:26.440 just randomly decided to pick it back up because I 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:28.720 was having a lot of anxiety, you know, like at 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:30.440 the beginning of the pandemic. Like I was like, yo, 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.200 I'm a grown man having like these anxiety symptoms that 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:35.640 I never dealt with before in my life. Like, so 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.960 you skated him out. I skated him out because skateboarding 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:42.159 is like a really like meditation like activity. You have 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:44.120 to really focus, Like if you fuck up your foot 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:46.800 placement or something because you're thinking about some other shit, 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:49.479 you're gonna fall and like you know, bust your ass. 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:51.880 So you really have to focus and it allows you 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:57.680 to really disconnect. So the mixtape is you jumping on 0:04:57.760 --> 0:04:59.800 other beats. That was the one we just dropped. Yeah, 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:01.800 that was I got like a bunch of people on it. 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:04.600 I got who I got, I got Nams on it, 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:08.320 I got Shots and I got Damn Rick, I got Reverie, 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:10.719 like a bunch of like the homies. We just wrapped 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:13.640 on a bunch of shit. We wrapped on like kick Push, 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:15.599 just you know, because I've been skating, had to do it. 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:17.480 That's natural. I had to do it, you know. Then 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:20.000 a Millie because that's my name, you know. But now 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:21.920 we're moving on. We're about to drop some real music 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:25.440 end of this month, end of October. So with a mixtape, 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:27.320 you obviously can't put it on DSP. So it's on 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:30.320 the one website, industrybeats dot com. I've never even heard 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:32.440 of that. What did you just say? It was on 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:36.080 we We dropped on industry beats like they were recorded 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:39.520 on top of beats. Oh industry. I thought that was 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:42.920 like a new platform. Sorry. I thought you were like, yo, 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.640 it's on We dropped it on industry beats and I'm like, oh, 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:48.120 that must be like a new dat pif nah, the 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.880 new dat pif nah. So it's on that PIF. No, 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:53.559 we didn't. We just put it right fout on YouTube okay, 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:55.919 sound Cloud? Yeah, because you should put it on that PIF. 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:59.039 I know, right, why not? I just t you have 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:02.080 big shots the fucking and there's my mixtapes app. We 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:04.800 use that. Oh ship, look at you. You You fucking up 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:06.920 my whole life right now. Keve about to take over 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:09.120 my market and shout out to YouTube man. So you 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:11.280 pretty much just a lot of YouTube ship, a lot 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:13.440 of YouTube ship because I was I was finalized in 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:16.920 a business situation. So now that that's all wrapped, because 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:18.599 I wasn't trying to go back into the label system 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:23.599 or the distribution company system per se. So I wanted 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:25.800 to do something a little different. So as you sent 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:27.440 me like a preview a new video, well you sent 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:29.240 me in your new video. Yeah, you probably only previewed 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:32.000 it because you're fake busy. No, I watched, I watched 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:33.719 the whole thing. I'm just you were like chopping Like 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:35.920 I told you, it's like some vintage Amilio chopping on here. 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.839 Vintage vintage. Yeah, we uh, it's a it's a nod 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:42.039 to that the Fat Joe and Punch It Twins, which 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:47.080 was a nod to Deep Cover. So obviously being Latino like, 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:50.480 I'm super influenced by pun Joe of course. And yeah, 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:53.880 I definitely like referenced The Dead in the Middle. Literally. Yeah, 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:57.360 I had to so now because I feel like you 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:59.000 had like a you were you were kind of like 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:01.599 dabbling a bit in this and a shit right, trying 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:04.680 to make more like a spanglish ish yeah, kind of. 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:06.080 I feel like you were kind of trying to make 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:11.560 more records that weren't necessarily maybe what your core fan 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:13.880 base would expect from you. For a while, that was 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:18.320 like a lot of external pressures for those types of records. Yeah, yeah, 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:20.360 so you know, I had to kind of take it 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:22.600 back a little bit. I feel like when you have 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.360 like a I feel like that you you have you 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:28.400 busted a hard left. I feel like, if you're gonna 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:31.800 go there, you gotta make it a gradual left. Well, 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:34.200 you know, I was getting pressure, man, Like it was 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:35.680 one of those things like, yo, we're going to open 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:38.800 a marketing budget. Like, yo, you're Hispanic, you speak Spanish? 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:41.280 What are you doing? That was literally, that's literally you 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:43.360 know what the conversation was, Oh, you probably have it 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:45.720 a lot with Oh, for sure, I know them. They 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:47.280 want to take you in. You got to do records 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.720 that we see me on Dell God bless amazing artists. 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:52.480 But like, it doesn't really make sense with Emilio. You 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.840 just got to get there, like gradually. I'm just not 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:57.680 a fucking I don't do it. Get I don't do right. 0:07:57.760 --> 0:07:59.160 I think like at the end of the day, like 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:02.760 I think your fans have a certain like love for 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:05.160 some of the stuff you do. It's very transparent, it's 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:08.920 very personal, it's very lyric driven, and I feel like 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:10.240 some of the stuff I was hearing from you, I 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:15.120 was like, oh, dude, it wasn't this is interesting. This 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:16.920 is a hard left. Well it was like we were 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.400 trying to mix the two. Right. So I've always made 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:22.000 records about girls. I've always done the breakup records and stuff, 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:23.640 But like, why don't we put it on like a 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:27.320 Latin rhythm, right? Okay? Cool? I mean I'm Latino. I 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:29.080 like that those type of records. It's cool. You know, 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:31.400 I've been making records for a while, so like there's 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:35.600 no harm in experimenting. How did those records do? They 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:38.000 did all? Right? Like did you did you notice like 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.280 it open your fan base and or did it also 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:43.000 piss off your regular fan base a little? Well? I 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:46.080 think what I did, which was smart and just not 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:48.160 even deliberate, but just what I've always done is just 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:53.080 I've always like stayed lyrical, even in those spaces. Yeah, so, 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:54.840 I mean you're a fucking beast, so it's like you 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:57.480 can't help but be incredible rapping. Thank you. Hey, that's 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:00.439 I appreciate that. Thank Yeah. It's like not like people 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:03.040 who rap as good as you. It's like, no matter 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:05.080 what you're gonna do, it's gonna be dope in terms 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:07.320 of like the lyricism, you know. Yeah, so I think, 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:09.000 you know, it's satisfied people a little bit. And I 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:12.920 was still trying to give my my core records, you know, 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:16.120 like we we tried to walk the line, and I still, 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.120 you know, like I don't think it was inauthentic to 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:21.120 me as a human being, because I like girls. Maybe 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:22.839 from a marketing standpoint, it could have been done a 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:25.160 little bit more deliberately. So would you say the new 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:27.360 stuff coming out is a little bit more like kind 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:30.240 of back to like what got you here type shit? Well, 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:32.680 it's like, well, obviously you put a mixtape out, which 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:35.280 is very fucking you know, I just wanted to wrap, bro, 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:38.640 That's what I mean, Like, that's very vintage of you. Yeah, 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:40.800 and it was. It wasn't really a lot of thought 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.120 put into it, which, right, which is great. Sometimes that's 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:46.800 the best thing. You just don't man, I'm sure you've 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:49.120 been through this, just overthinking your music. Shit can be 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:53.520 Sometimes the worst finishes better than perfect all the time. 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It's that fucking easy, my bookie, 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:38.679 go run it up. Let's get back to the interview 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:42.160 one hundred. So when we were doing that, we were 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:44.800 still like dropping the lyrical shit, but this new shit 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:49.559 is like it's more dysfunctional. M you know how many Well, 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:50.800 first of all, you got the name of the project, 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:53.960 Yeat breaking point two. So it's a no. Yeah, because 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:55.680 I did a mixtape a couple of years ago with 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:58.400 DJ Green Lantern and Billionaire Boys Club called Breaking Point. 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.199 It was a couple of years ago, maybe longer. I mean, 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:05.000 my concept of time is fucked. Wait, wouldn't first Green 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:08.120 Lantern tape you did maybe ten years ago? It might 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:11.160 have been ten years ago. Okay, wait, wait like twenty eleven, 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:14.440 twenty twelve, So that's the same one. That's the sequel. Yeah, 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:15.760 it's took a while, Okay, I just want to make 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:18.160 sure I'm not crazy. It's like a terminator type. Are 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:19.920 you sure that was like eleven years ago? This is 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:23.640 like Avatar Avatar two. It might have been twelve years ago. 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:27.440 I think it was twenty eleven, so eleven, yeah, yeah, 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:29.920 I think it's more twenty eleven. May yeah, yea, yeah, 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:31.480 I don't know. You probably know better than I do. 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:34.360 I think it was twenty ten, twenty ten. I'm gonna 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:35.760 look it up. We should look it up. Let's look 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:38.240 it up. We have these fucking million dollar devices in 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:41.000 our hands. I mean, I'm because I'm trying to remember 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:43.720 when I first I feel like I was working at Power. 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:48.240 I don't know. You might have been, might have been nah, 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:52.199 breaking Point it says it says twenty thirteen on here 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:55.560 twenty twelve. I think twenty eleven, because that's only twenty eleven. 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:57.880 It says here Amelia was Breaking Point produced by j 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:00.760 twenty eleven. So that means the record because that was 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.880 when everything wasn't project like we would run singles before projects, right, 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:05.559 it wasn't like a post campaign. Okay, so yeah, it 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:07.640 was about ten years ago. Let's just say ten well average, 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:09.400 it's a ten a cool decade, a cool you know, 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:11.600 a little dime. Was that your that was your first 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:13.640 or that was your first? I think second that was 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:15.320 your saying okay, because maybe it was this It was 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:19.440 the first one that people cared that I like came 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:21.840 to you for because I remember finding you through my 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:25.280 boy Slim in Phoenix. You did a drop for a 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:27.680 once for me shot at the Dear Departy of Clothing. 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:31.960 But yeah, shot to you, man. So it's been ten years, 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:34.360 it's been not a couple. Well, dude, I don't know, man, 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:38.080 I'm just fucking my time. My time thing is fucked. Yeah, 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:41.080 it's all good man. You fucking you're a veteran. I'm 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:43.560 a vet. Yeah, you're a vet. I want was mine? Bro? 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:45.040 I want like I feel like I haven't gotten what 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:47.079 I deserve, so I'm like after it right now. What 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:49.920 do you think like has been because I feel like 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:51.760 there's been a lot of artists who are kind of 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.479 from your era that maybe went like a little underappreciated, 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:56.840 maybe a little under the radar, maybe feel the same 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.000 way you feel. What what would you attribute that to? 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:02.520 I think it's a right like regardless of like the 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:05.280 fact that the Latin shit is huge now. When I 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:07.719 entered the space, I was a brand new artist, a 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:09.920 brand new idea. Like all the Latino artists in the 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:13.840 past historically have been like very like more gangster, more 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:17.040 street like. I'm like kind of like late blog era late. Yeah, 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.400 I missed the early I missed like the blog era 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:22.840 where everybody's popping. Yeah. So I think it was a 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:24.800 mix of like the labels not knowing what box to 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:30.400 put me in, right, and then kind of like catching 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:32.240 the tail end of the blog era and not really 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:36.360 like wanting to like transition to the streaming era, like 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.160 we kind of fought it a little bit, like why 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.640 am I giving records away for free? You know? And 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:44.720 then you know, I had like some personal shit, like 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:46.640 some like I was with Violator for a little bit, 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:48.840 and like when Chris light he passed it like it 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:51.800 fucked me up a little bit, right, fuck a lot 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:53.880 of people up, for sure, exactly. So rest in peace 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:56.600 to Chris and you know it just I had to 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:58.920 get my shit together. I wasn't ready emotionally to do 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:00.560 a lot of the things that I like feel like 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:02.600 I'm ready for now. Like one thing they don't tell 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:04.960 you about in music is like, yeah, you could be talented, 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:08.080 you can make records, but if your mindset isn't right, 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.000 you're not gonna. I feel like you're just not going 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.640 to be given those opportunities. Mmm, you know, like or 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:15.800 maybe you're not ready for him exactly, or you can't 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:19.000 even recognize that they're there to activate them. Yeah, it's 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:20.560 like yeah, because like at that time, you know, I 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:22.400 had a list artist calling me and ship and like 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:25.080 trying to insert me into situations that they were developing. 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:28.160 And I didn't even really know at the time, like 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:30.360 how to capitalize on those opportunity. Who's trying to sign you? 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:32.440 I forget who was. There was some there was some 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:34.880 talk about you signed with somebody we went to, Uh 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.040 we were talking with Rose. I was gonna say I 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:38.840 thought it was MMG. Yeah. There was a couple of 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:41.200 other ones that weren't like publicized, I just keep it private. 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:43.080 I remember the MMG one. That's the one. I think 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:45.160 I'm thinking of how far did that get down the 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:46.520 line because he was trying to sign a lot. He 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.040 was trying to sign you, Nipsey, uh fucking Don Kennedy. 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.520 I mean Rose, I think he was in the middle 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.440 of changing labels from like Warner to Deaf Jam it 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:58.880 was Warner. Yeah, well it was Warner to Atlantic. Oh okay, 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:02.000 Warner to Atlantic. Yeah, because that was when MMG originally 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:03.840 was on Warner, and then there was a big I 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.400 don't know what happened, but then everything from MMG ended 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:09.600 up on Atlantic, yeah exactly. And I think we we 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:13.280 weren't organized on my end. You know, when I had 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:16.360 like the Spotlight at that moment, it was accidental. It 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:18.400 wasn't deliberate. Like I had done a record with like 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:21.000 Big crit and Laws, and I remember shouts and Laws 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:24.080 from Tampa, big shouts. What happened to loss? I think 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:26.640 another one got caught up at Laws. I think the 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:28.520 team he was working with took the joy out of 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:32.800 the creative wasn't any Justice League. I can't say names definitively, 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:34.880 So you're saying the Justice League took the creative process 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:37.000 out of it. I'm just kidding. No, I mean Rook. 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:38.640 I love Rook and I love the Justice League. They 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:40.000 are some of my favorite producer of all time. But 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.320 I think you know, when you deal with certain people, 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:44.720 they haven't popped an artists off. Let's be honest, they're 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:48.360 fucking incredible. But I mean they also signed a homie 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:51.160 from Tampa. What was a kid's name, Prime Prime, nice 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:52.880 kid from Tampa. I mean, I lived in Tampa, and 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:55.800 justicee fucking legendary. They're some of my favorite producers of 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:57.280 all time. I mean, they have like the best Rick 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:59.880 Ross songs of all time ever. Yeah, but like out 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.280 side of the Rick Ross stuff, I think they gave 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:04.000 him his sound, you know, they gave him his sound, 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:06.199 and I really wish that, Like, I really wish they 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.199 I wish they did more shit. Like maybe they are 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:10.320 and I'm just not hip to it, you know, but 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:13.439 I'll say this Laws was fire. Laws is super talented, 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:15.480 and I don't know if it was like the label 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:17.640 side of things. I don't know where, but somewhere along 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:19.600 the line he lost to love first. It was hard. 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.000 I think he's dropping records again now though, but I 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:24.600 think that's why he stepped back. Should reach out there, Rock, 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:27.640 Let's reach out to Laws. Let's bring Tampa's to Laws. 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:30.040 I fuck with Laws heavy, good dude. That was kind 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:31.639 of Yeah, he was kind of like late blog era 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:33.280 guy too. You guys are kind of the same kind 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:35.680 of you know, ye Yeah. So you did a record 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.280 with Laws and krit Yeah, and it's just like the 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:40.040 way I came off on the record put a lot 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:41.639 of attention on me that I wasn't ready for. Like 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:44.000 I didn't even have fucking records done. So it's like 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:45.960 we were in a situation where I was like, as 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:47.960 you know, right, you got to have shit ready to 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:51.000 go for sure immediately, and we were just chasing our tail. 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:55.560 So I had to step back, pause, build up like 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:59.359 a folder, hard drive, hundreds of records, videos, all that shit, 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:02.119