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Speaker 1: Ya. Welcome to the Therapy for Black Girls podcast, a

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Speaker 1: weekly conversation about mental health, personal development, and all the

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Speaker 1: versions of ourselves. I'm your host, Dr Joy hard and Bradford,

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Speaker 1: a licensed psychologist in Atlanta, Georgia. For more information or

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Speaker 1: to find a therapist in your area, visit our website

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Speaker 1: at Therapy for Black Girls dot com. While I hope

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Speaker 1: you love listening to and learning from the podcast, it

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Speaker 1: is not meant to be a substitute for relationship with

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Speaker 1: a licensed mental health professional. Hey, y'all, thanks so much

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Speaker 1: for joining me for such In one ninety of the

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Speaker 1: Therapy for Black Girls podcasts, one of the qualities I

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Speaker 1: most appreciate about people who regularly practice mindfulness is their

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Speaker 1: ability to cultivate inter calm despite what's happening on the outside.

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Speaker 1: And I think this is definitely something many of us

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Speaker 1: could use more of. Right now. To share more about

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Speaker 1: her mindfulness practices today, we're joined by Debbie Brown. Debbie

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Speaker 1: is a wellness educator, meditation teacher, raiky healer, and author.

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Speaker 1: She currently serves as the Chief Impact Officer for Chopra

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Speaker 1: Chopra app, through her best selling book Crystal Bliss and

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Speaker 1: her podcast Dropping Gems. Debbie's work is rooted in sharing

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Speaker 1: tangible healing modalities with millennial and Generation Z women of

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Speaker 1: color in support of whole life enhancement. Debbie and I

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Speaker 1: how to get started with using crystals or primordial sound meditation,

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Speaker 1: the importance of affirmations, and she shares a beautiful guided

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Speaker 1: affirmation that can be experienced over and over to help

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Speaker 1: keep us ground it. If there's anything that resonates with

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Speaker 1: you while enjoying our conversation, please share with us on

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Speaker 1: social media using the hashtag tv g in Session. Here's

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Speaker 1: our conversation. But thank you so much for joining us today, Debbi.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm so excited to be here, big fan. Likewise, likewise,

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad we were able to make this conversation happen.

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Speaker 1: So I am just fascinated by your journey, Debbie, and

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Speaker 1: have just been so interested in like the changes you've

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Speaker 1: can you tell us just a little bit about like

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Speaker 1: Crystal Blizz and that is something that a lot of

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Speaker 1: My curiosity has always led me. I am an only

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Speaker 1: the first leg of that journey, my first offering was

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Speaker 1: just in surrender to this, like we're just human beings

433
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 1: and it's okay. And so I think the bigger piece

434
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 1: of that is one it makes them uncomfortable with stillness

435
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 1: and quiet, because then who am I if I don't

436
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: have all these stories going through my head? Who am

437
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: I if I'm not currently playing a role for other

438
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: people or for myself? But I think also for many

439
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,719
Speaker 1: people it's just the fear of not being good at

440
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: something right away. When you're an adult, we take away

441
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: so much of that natural wonder and curiosity, that ability

442
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: to kind of like try when we're kids were celebrated

443
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: for trying, We get the a for effort, We are

444
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: applauded for the attempt. Then when we become adults, we

445
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 1: judge ourselves if anything is less than perfect, or if

446
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 1: we're a novice at something, or if we can't, you know,

447
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 1: predict the outcome. And so that is the deeper fear

448
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: that really keeps us from meditation. But we don't have

449
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: to subscribe to it. And so a big piece for

450
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 1: me whenever I feel any resistance towards doing something that

451
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: I know honors me or that I know ads nourishment

452
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: to my life is I asked myself questions about it.

453
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: Why do you really feel so charged about not doing this?

454
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: What are you actually fearful of? If you know this

455
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 1: feels good, if you know this is good for you,

456
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: and you're making the conscious choice to not do it,

457
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: what's the underlying story there? And I'm not judging myself

458
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: for the story. I might say, well, it's this, this,

459
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: and this. Okay, that's fine, I understand it now. Now

460
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: I can attempt it in a different way where I

461
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: can keep trying. But I think for most people that

462
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: want to start meditation, it's really just start it. And

463
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: then just keep doing it. Even if it's five minutes.

464
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: You don't have to do your full recommended twenty to

465
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: twenty five minutes a session. You don't have to do

466
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: the hour day that I like to do now, but

467
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: five minutes two minutes. And I think for people that

468
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: are in that space especially get started by doing guided meditations,

469
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: that really takes the pressure off because then you're hearing

470
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: this other voice. It's very clear that they're guiding you somewhere,

471
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: and you just kind of hang out for the ride.

472
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Yeah. And I'm glad that there are people

473
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: like you and Tracy G and other black women and

474
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: women of color who have been able to offer guided

475
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 1: meditations because for a long time, I think it feels

476
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: very uncomfortable, especially for black women, to have these guided

477
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 1: meditations in voices that did not sound right. And so

478
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: I think that that has made it again a more

479
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: inclusive way for us to kind of be brought into

480
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: this wellness phase. Absolutely one hundred percent. And I know

481
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: I said this earlier, but I really love doing these

482
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: on the Choper app. Every day I do guided meditations,

483
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 1: and I really really work to do such an array

484
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: of topics on each day, so that we can really

485
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: speak to like a vast amount of experiences that people

486
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: can be individually having. I think it's important too to

487
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: know that even if you're in a space where you

488
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: don't necessarily see someone who you resonate with, which unfortunately

489
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: in wellness can be quite quite often. You know, in

490
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: my journey, I was always the only person my age

491
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 1: and person of color in every single retreat. I went

492
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: to every certification program I did for years, for like

493
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: close to a decade up until the last year or

494
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: two years. And so I think it's important for people

495
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: to know you still have the power to be your

496
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: own healer. You still do have the power to sit

497
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: with yourself and offer yourself these gifts. It's not necessarily

498
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: always ideal. It does feel really good to build tribe

499
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: and build community, but we don't have to look at

500
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: it as a cookie cutter box. Like this journey of

501
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: healing is a bespoke experience for each of us. We

502
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: get to really create what it looks like and it

503
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: does not matter what anyone else thinks or feels about it.

504
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Yeah. And I think that that's the other

505
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: cool thing about so many people like talking about their

506
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: journeys now, right, is that it gives other people permission

507
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: to kind of be on their own journey as well. Yeah,

508
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: but you know the other thing, and I'd love to

509
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: hear your thoughts about this day, because I'm sure you've

510
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: seen this. It does feel like there can be a

511
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: tendency to want to do too much, right, so almost

512
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 1: kind of picking apart everything about you, like, oh I

513
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: don't like this about me, and oh, I gotta dive

514
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: deeper into this, right almost in a like you were mentioning,

515
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: kind of like I gotta check off all of these

516
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: boxes in a way that I feel like make people

517
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: miss the point of actually engaging in these practices. God,

518
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: that's so true. So much of the reason that we're

519
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: hard on ourselves obviously is learned behavior. You know. It's

520
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: like either our families were really critical of us or

521
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: even emotionally isolating, and so we got hyper vigilant about ourselves,

522
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: or society was, or so it's just so important not

523
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: to apply those same techniques to ourselves. We have to

524
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: treat ourselves with a gentleness and with a tenderness. And

525
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: the way that I look at it now, I am

526
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: not looking to fix myself when we use that kind

527
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: of terminology of like I'm fixing myself, I'm working on myself.

528
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,719
Speaker 1: I get it, I get the intention, and I know

529
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: that that's the popular language, but I think it's so

530
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: much more important to lend ourselves grace by looking at

531
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: it as I am remembering myself. We came to this

532
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: earth whole and complete. We came to this earth perfectly designed.

533
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: It is everything else that happened in between us coming

534
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: out of our mother's wounds and this moment in time

535
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: that has changed our perception of self or created all

536
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: of these barriers to our healing and all of these

537
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: experiences that don't feel good. But it's not because something

538
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: is wrong with you. You don't have to fix yourself

539
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: because you're broken and something is wrong. You are remembering

540
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: the deeper truth of who you are. What a beautiful sentiment.

541
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: I feel like that is really grounding, right. We did

542
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: come here with everything we needed to kind of be fine,

543
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: and it's all the other experiences, it's life, right Like,

544
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: it's the life part that kind of gets in the

545
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: way of like everything that we came here with and

546
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: to be and it is recurring in kind of getting

547
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: in touch with those kinds of things. Yeah, absolutely, And

548
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: I think especially like this really has to be heard

549
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: by black and brown women, the groupings of people who

550
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: have never been allowed to feel anything in real time,

551
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: have never been allowed to process, have never been given

552
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: the dignity of their process, or to a large extent,

553
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: empathy of any kind. And so it's like, you do

554
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: you tell yourself this, this loop, this belief that you

555
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: are not enough or somehow you're a little less worthy

556
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: than other people, especially a little less worthy than whiteness

557
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: in our society, when everything about our day to day

558
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: interactions tends to reinforce that you come to this earth,

559
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: you experience all of these different kinds of traumas and

560
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: spiritual curriculums. But then also every day there is something

561
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: somewhere happening, no matter how slight or how grand, that

562
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: further informs your belief that you're just not as good,

563
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: or something is wrong, or life is meant to hurt

564
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: or feel painful. And it's so important for us to

565
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: always reframe that and know, you know, what's us and

566
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: what a society, so that we can really see ourselves

567
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: as enough and whole and equipped for the moments that

568
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: we face. M hmmm. I'm so glad that you said that, Debbie,

569
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: because it definitely feels like especially I mean, and we've

570
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: kind of seen it just in recent weeks, right around

571
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: all of the praise that it feels like black women

572
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: and other women of color get for working right, So

573
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: turn the stay blue and look at black women and

574
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: believe black women and all of these things right, But

575
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: it feels like that praise only really happens when we

576
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: are working right, like, not just for our existence. So

577
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: I feel like this is a real calling to like,

578
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: you're worthy regardless of the work. You are worthy because

579
00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: you exist right God commanded it. There's nothing more worthy

580
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: than that than your existence was required here on this earth.

581
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: It's everything else that gets in the way. I feel

582
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: so grateful to be alive at this moment in time,

583
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: and to be alive as a woman of color in

584
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: this moment in time. When else have we been able

585
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: to be this free, especially inside of ourselves. And it's

586
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: frustrating now like we've had an awful year, even this

587
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: week that we're talking, the most insane things have been unfolding.

588
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: But even still, even in the midst of that, we

589
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: do have personal privilege of self which is, we have

590
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: the privilege of loving ourselves, even if the world says otherwise.

591
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: We may have to relearn how to do that, We

592
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: may have to study and train how to do that,

593
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: or surrender into doing that. Our own love is always

594
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: available to us. M M. Yeah, And I know that

595
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: one of the ways that you do this so powerfully

596
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: is by offering affirmations and mantras and also teaching people

597
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: how to do those for themselves. Can you say a

598
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: little bit more about how we can develop like affirmations

599
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: in mantras for ourselves. Oh, yes, this is my favorite thing. Ah,

600
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: such a game changer. What was really a game changer

601
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: for me? Affirmations chorus in mantras nothing new, It's been

602
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: around forever. But when we get really invested in seeing

603
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: ourselves and being clear on what we want to cultivate

604
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: or growing ourselves, which takes quite a lot of self

605
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: honesty and looking at ourselves through non judgmental, very clear eyes,

606
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: the things we're able to manifest, the accelerated pace within

607
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: which we're able to grow, it's just mind blowing. And

608
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: so I'm a big believer that when we're creating affirmations

609
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: and mantras for ourselves. It's really important for us to

610
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: deepen our emotional language to do that, because it really

611
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,479
Speaker 1: helps us understand who we are and where we're going.

612
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: And I think that's a big issue with why so

613
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: many family structures are so dysfunctional and so many of

614
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: the ways we feel about ourselves in the world is

615
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: dysfunctional is because we don't have the languaging for the expression.

616
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: And when we get that, when we start to be

617
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: able to expand on our experience verbally, that's how we

618
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: are able to start to heal and dissolve. And so

619
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: with our affirmations, it's like, for instance, you have an

620
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: affirmation about perhaps wanting to forgive someone in your life

621
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: or forgive yourself. I think a traditional way someone would

622
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: do it is like I am I am forgiveness or

623
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: I am loving, And those are beautiful and those are workable.

624
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: But if we really sit with ourselves and then come

625
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: up with something like I am fully surrendered to the

626
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: possibilities without understanding them, yet my heart is open with

627
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 1: loving and expand did to forgive the experiences of my life.

628
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: When we start to really create a little deepening of

629
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: our narration about our goals and about the things that

630
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: we want to become. It just really accelerates it. And

631
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: so a few years ago something that I wanted to

632
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: work on it myself was really healing this attachment I

633
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: had from the younger versions of myself from childhood debby right,

634
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: and really being able to integrate child me and adult me,

635
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: because here I was as this adult woman that was like,

636
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: I think, I'm amazing, I love me, I love my life,

637
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: look at me doing this and that. But then I

638
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: didn't want to think about younger me. I'd remember a

639
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: version of myself at a different age, and I'm like,

640
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 1: you get away from me was that that little girl

641
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: didn't also deserve to live inside of my life right now.

642
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: And so I really started exploring, like what was it

643
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: that was keeping me that disconnected? And what was I

644
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: afraid to see? And how would it feel to surrender

645
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: to that and to relearn how to love little met

646
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: and how to treat her with the kindness and the

647
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: dignity and the gratitude that she deserved to feel then

648
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: and now. And so when I was sitting with that,

649
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: something that started coming up for me, where what words

650
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: would feel really good to hear every day that would

651
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: really help me change my perception of my childhood and

652
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: who I'm allowed to become. And so like a word

653
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: that came forward was like precious. A word that came

654
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: forward was this desire to be joyfully disciplined about my goals.

655
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: I had always looked at that word discipline, and it

656
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: had felt like I was lacking something if I didn't

657
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: measure up to it. So how do I add joyousness

658
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: to that? And so when you're creating these affirmations, pull

659
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: out your thesaurus, pull out your dictionary, and really start

660
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,240
Speaker 1: adding to the language of what is it that I feel?

661
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: What do I want to feel about me? And so

662
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: the affirmation that I came up with in that moment

663
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: was I'm a precious child of God living in the

664
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: mastery of my most loving and authentic self, exercising joyful

665
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: discipline and leading from my soul center. And so I

666
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: had identified at the top of the year, I really

667
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: want to be able to powerfully lead in my career

668
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: and in my workspace and make sure that I'm doing

669
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: it from the deepest part of my authenticity, not from

670
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 1: a perspective of maybe like likes or attention. I wanted

671
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: to experience myself as someone that was cherished and precious

672
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: and held close to God. And I wanted to really

673
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 1: build upon my ability to have more discipline but through joy.

674
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: And so when identified like, what are the qualities that

675
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: I really want to fully embody? I found the words

676
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: for them, and then I wrote myself this little couple

677
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: of sentences, and I repeated it free day every day,

678
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: every day, every day. And the effect that and now

679
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: I have, like you know, twenty of them, I might

680
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: do a day that are equally as long. It takes

681
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 1: quite a while, but I found that it has just

682
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: been such a powerful tool of amplification of our own

683
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: compassion for ourselves and our ability to grow. Mm hmmm.

684
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 1: And I would imagine much like the meditation, you would

685
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: not suggest everybody come up with like twenty, right, but

686
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 1: to start with one maybe that you to have become

687
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: more in your life. Yeah. Absolutely, When I think very quickly,

688
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: you'll start to have more grace for yourself to where

689
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: you can't think of five things and you won't feel

690
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: ashamed about it or you won't feel judged about it.

691
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: But even if you think of one like I, I

692
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 1: want to feel more free, I want to feel more peace.

693
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: Writing some beautiful sentences, even around that one word when

694
00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: just saying like I embody lightness of being, I am joyful, playful,

695
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: I I experience fun with ease, I experience rest with ease.

696
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: Maybe you're just doing too much and you're feeling like

697
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: a martyr, and you can just say like I I

698
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: joyfully experience ease in every fiber of my being, and

699
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: my body is nourished and rested each day. So, Debbie,

700
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 1: I would love to hear some feedback around like the

701
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: language used in affirmations, because I know some people struggle

702
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: with this feeling like like I'm not quite there yet, right,

703
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: So like maybe I don't feel like my life is

704
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: full of easy yet, this is what I'm telling myself.

705
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: So is there a way to be tentative in the

706
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 1: language or like what kind of language when you're coming

707
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: up with your affirmation? You have to go big. You

708
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: have to go big because here's the thing, right, Like,

709
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: if we are just using our current level of consciousness

710
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: to manifest our deeper dreams, it's not enough. We can't

711
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,479
Speaker 1: even them yet. The vastness of what our life could

712
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: be when we're in a place of feeling stuck or

713
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: in a place of lack. So it's really important that

714
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: you always go bid because it's not supposed to be

715
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: true yet. You know, if it was already true, I

716
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't have an affirmation for it. I wouldn't need to

717
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: tell myself it every day. And so when we say that,

718
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: and we say from that powerful space of like present

719
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: tense word usage and like as if we already are

720
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: that at first, even the first few weeks, you may

721
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: roll your eyes every time you say it. That's okay, right,

722
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: so go ahead feel irritated with it. You know, when

723
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: I first started some of my inner child work, I

724
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: would pick out a picture of myself from different ages.

725
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: I would frame it in a really beautiful frame, and

726
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: I put it somewhere where I was forced to see

727
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: it every day. And my goal was talked to her

728
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: every day, tell that picture you love her every day,

729
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 1: And for at least the first month or two, every

730
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: time I did it, I was so irritated. I was

731
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: very triggered. I would roll my eyes. I would do

732
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: it all right, I love you. I would do it

733
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: really fast, and then before I knew it, the healing

734
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: was happening within my body without me even having to

735
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: like really push for it because I had just opened

736
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: up that opportunity to be kind to myself, or to

737
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 1: dream a little bigger, or to feel something I hadn't

738
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 1: known yet for me. And so the same is true

739
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: with our affirmations. Just and I'll just use this example

740
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: that I just used, like if you were exhausted, if

741
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: you feel like you show up for other people but

742
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: you're not showing up for you, or other people aren't

743
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: showing up for you, the way you should do your

744
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: affirmation is I want you to look dead in your

745
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 1: eyes and your own eyes in the mirror and say

746
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: it with conviction until it becomes true, and say, I

747
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: have a joyful, energetic body. I am filled with enthusiasm

748
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: for myself in my life. I am able to receive

749
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: and gift myself rest freely and easily. Whether or not

750
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: that's true for you in this moment, it can be

751
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: when so we really speak to that aspiration of self

752
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: until we are able to embody it. Yeah, And I

753
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: imagine that a part of what happens is that by

754
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: repeating this to yourself so often, you then begin to

755
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: look at ways in which you are not acting what

756
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: you are affirming. Yes, that part, that part exactly. Yeah,

757
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: you start noticing, you start witnessing your life, and then

758
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 1: you're able to make really small, easy changes based on that.

759
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: You know. And that's something I've really learned dr joy

760
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: like on my journey that I feel so grateful for

761
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: in this moment is when we experience ourselves and our

762
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: past in our history, when we experience the world as

763
00:43:54,360 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: being really hard, really painful, really challenging, we in our

764
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: healing has to happen the same way. So we think

765
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: we have to beat ourselves up to heal and that

766
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: we have to excavate in this really dramatic, painful way,

767
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: and I've gone that route, but I've also recently learned

768
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: that in the last couple of years that healing can

769
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: happen in the twinkle of an eye. Healing can be instantaneous,

770
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: it can be a dissolving and not a fighting against

771
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: And so the way that I like to go about

772
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 1: it is doing things like we just said, like using

773
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: those tools like the affirmation and the meditation, using gentleness

774
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: with myself to do that and to be that, And

775
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: so part of our healing journey is also as we

776
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: all learn all of the stories that don't serve us,

777
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: we also get a chance to redefine what healing can

778
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 1: look like for us. I believe that I can heal

779
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 1: through joy, and so that's the route that I take

780
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: when I'm feeling the tinge of depression coming on. Because

781
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: I'm a human being living in wild times, that's natural

782
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: and to be expected. I lean into joy, you know.

783
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: I do things that make me feel good, even in

784
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: a pandemic. If it's going outside and looking at a flower,

785
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: if it's filling sunshine on my skin and taking a

786
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: moment to actually really feel grateful for that, no matter

787
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: what is happening around me. That's how I heal myself.

788
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: And so life is challenging. The way we treat ourselves

789
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: doesn't always have to be I think honestly, in the

790
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: moments where we have experienced the most pain, the best

791
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: thing that we can do is to be the most

792
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: gentle with those parts of ourselves. Yeah. Yeah, you and

793
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: I are talking about it, and it sounds so beautiful

794
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: and so gentle. But the thing is, for everybody listening,

795
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: it really is. It really is. And if you haven't

796
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: been treated with gentleness and joy by the people in

797
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: your life, you just haven't learned how to do that

798
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 1: for yourself yet. But it does. I mean, it's not possible.

799
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: It's just something new you'll be learning how to do.

800
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: M M. There will be lots of bumps and bruises,

801
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: right because I had that model for yourself, then you

802
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 1: won't necessarily know like how to do it for yourself. Yeah.

803
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 1: But also and just saying that's okay, that's okay, right,

804
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: right again, giving yourself grace, Give me all the grace, right.

805
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: I want to stand in a shower of grace every

806
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: day and with one another, you know. So this is

807
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 1: something I think we've talked about somewhere on the podcast

808
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: or maybe in the social media community. But the other

809
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: very cool thing about grace is that when we are

810
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: able to do more of giving it to ourselves, we

811
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: can also extend it to other people. Because I think

812
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 1: that there is far too often just this harshness with

813
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: one another that is not fitting and not actually helpful

814
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: in terms of building community. And I think a lot

815
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 1: of it comes from us not giving ourselves enough grace

816
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: so that we can extend it to others. Oh my god,

817
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: so true. Yeah, that projection is so real. It's so real,

818
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: and it's so fun and interesting to look at when

819
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: you begin to get on the other side of it,

820
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: really noticing where you were projecting on other people when

821
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: you thought you were being righteous, you know, right right,

822
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: I've definitely had to eat my own words, you know before. Yeah,

823
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: and I think that that is just a reminded that

824
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: we are all human doing this work, right. It is

825
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: all a practice. I love that we call them practices

826
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: because it's nothing that you are again going to get

827
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: an A plus on. Yeah. Yeah, We're gonna take a

828
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: quick break and come back with our press pause moment. So, Debbie,

829
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: I know that you will be able to do this beautifully.

830
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: So here on the podcast, we have a segment called

831
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: the press Pause where we like our guests to be

832
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 1: able to offer something like a brief meditation or some

833
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: affirmations that might be helpful for them as they kind

834
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 1: of moved throughout their day. Mmmmm, I love that. Yeah, Okay,

835
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 1: I would love to ask everybody listening to the show

836
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: right now to just practice some gentle breath work with

837
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: me and wherever you are and however feels comfortable, just

838
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: get into a position that feels good for your body.

839
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: You can be sitting down, you can be even laying

840
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:35,919
Speaker 1: on your back and just gently close your eyes. Let's

841
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: just feel ourselves in the side of ourselves for a second.

842
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: And I'd like to invite you to take your right

843
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: hand and just go ahead and place it over your

844
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: heart center. And take your left hand and place it

845
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:55,479
Speaker 1: over your sacred chakra so that is the space where

846
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: your womb is underneath your belly button. And just have

847
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: one hand there, one hand on your heart, and just

848
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,919
Speaker 1: feel yourself for a moment, feel your own touch, fill

849
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: your own support, feel the warmth of your hand the

850
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: space that it's taken up. Let's just take a few

851
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: deep breaths in and out through our nose with their

852
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: eyes gently closed, so we can take a deep breath

853
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: in through our noses together and just hold it at

854
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: the top for a couple of seconds, and then we're

855
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:39,959
Speaker 1: going to release through our mouths with the sigh ah.

856
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 1: So we'll do that two more times, taking a really

857
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: big any hill with our noses when we get going,

858
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 1: and imagining even your lungs as two beautiful balloons, really

859
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 1: stretching and expanding with that inward breath. And then we're

860
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: gonna hold it right at the top for a few seconds,

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Speaker 1: and then we'll release with that side, just allowing ourselves

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Speaker 1: to really release anything inside that doesn't serve us, create

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Speaker 1: some more spaciousness around our hearts. So we'll do that

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Speaker 1: two more times. Go ahead and inhale through your nose

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Speaker 1: m h m hm. And for our last time, we'll

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Speaker 1: do that beautiful inhale, hold it at the top and

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Speaker 1: then let yourself sigh it out. Really release our last

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Speaker 1: one together now inhale m hm. Now your right hand

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Speaker 1: still on your heart, your left hand still right there

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Speaker 1: over your womb, back to regular gentle breathing, and as

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Speaker 1: you're holding yourself in this moment, just really showing up

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Speaker 1: powerfully for you. I want you to think of something

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Speaker 1: that you feel grateful for. It doesn't have to be

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Speaker 1: grand or a really big joy. It can be a

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Speaker 1: tiny joy. Maybe someone let you merge in front of

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Speaker 1: them today and there was ease to that, or you

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Speaker 1: lucked out in some way, or saw your child smile,

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Speaker 1: or you're just grateful to exist, And I want you

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Speaker 1: to hold that feeling deep in your chest as you

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Speaker 1: hold yourself and just really allow yourself to savor it.

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Speaker 1: Feel safe in that gratitude, even if it feels natural.

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Speaker 1: Let yourself have a smile, come across your mouth, really

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Speaker 1: holding that space of gratefulness and worthiness and enoughness, and

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Speaker 1: just say to yourself right now as we close out

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Speaker 1: silently in your own mind, I am worthy. I give

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Speaker 1: and receive love freely. What God has for me is enough.

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Speaker 1: Couple more breaths, and whenever it feels comfortable, you can

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Speaker 1: gently open your eyes mm hmm, not mistake. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for that, Debbie. What an incredibly powerful but

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Speaker 1: also brief thing that people can practice, I think over

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Speaker 1: and over, which is what we've talked about, right, like

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Speaker 1: just being able to cultivate even brief moments to kind

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Speaker 1: of dive into yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I would

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Speaker 1: love for you to share with us more about where

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Speaker 1: we can find your word. Can you talk with us

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Speaker 1: about some of the really cool things you're doing both

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Speaker 1: with your community and with Chow Broo. Yeah, absolutely so

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Speaker 1: hit me up on the Graham. I'm on there, Debbie Brown,

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Speaker 1: and through there you can also link to Karma Bliss,

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Speaker 1: which is my business. On there, I have a community

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Speaker 1: called Karma Gang. We have monthly zooms and meditation sations,

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Speaker 1: a book club. We do different challenges every quarter to

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Speaker 1: really grow yourself and test out some new tools and

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Speaker 1: see what fits and see what can can feel really nourishing.

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Speaker 1: And then at Chopra, which I am just so so

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Speaker 1: in love with my company that I've worked for, Chopra,

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Speaker 1: we have an amazing app called the Chopra well Being

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Speaker 1: App that you can find on your iPhone and every

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Speaker 1: day I lead daily meditations on that app and the

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Speaker 1: chief Impact Officer for Chopper Global, and so a lot

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Speaker 1: of the work that I do is around our curriculum

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Speaker 1: and our events and really really pushing for the democratization

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Speaker 1: of wellness and making sure that these healing tools and

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Speaker 1: these belief systems are accessible for everyone of every economic

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Speaker 1: background everywhere. We do really really beautiful work at Chopra

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Speaker 1: really rooted in deepox life practice and in our veda.

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Speaker 1: Head to our website to choper dot com. When the

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Speaker 1: world opens up. We have gorgeous in person retreats where

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Speaker 1: you can really deep dive into this meditative journey and

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Speaker 1: cultivate more peace, because that is what it is all

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Speaker 1: about for me. Yeah, we definitely need that especially right now. Well, Jemi,

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Speaker 1: are there any books because people really love diving into

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Speaker 1: like books that you found particularly transformative or ones that

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Speaker 1: you find yourself recommending over and over anything you'd answer

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Speaker 1: that list, Oh, yes, well one my book, go get

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Speaker 1: Crystal Bliss Little Plug, a book that really meant so

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Speaker 1: much to me in my life. There are two. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's so many books, but there are two that I've

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Speaker 1: really recommend for people that were just immeasurably valuable in

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Speaker 1: my life, and that is The Seven Spiritual Laws of

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Speaker 1: Success by Deepak Chopra. I still read that book every

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Speaker 1: single day. It's a really small book that is so

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Speaker 1: powerful and you can kind of do it where you

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Speaker 1: go over one law each day, but really learning in

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Speaker 1: the law of detachment that's featured in that book is

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Speaker 1: probably one of the biggest game changers of my life.

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Speaker 1: And then I also recommend The Untethered Soul by Michael Singer.

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Speaker 1: It is an incredible book that you know, I'm somebody

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Speaker 1: that loves ethereal and esoteric and metaphysical, but I also

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Speaker 1: really love research, and I really love psychology and making

941
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Speaker 1: you know this kind of map in your mind of

942
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Speaker 1: what leads where. And I thought that that book, The

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Speaker 1: Untethered Soul was such a beautiful mix of really tangible

944
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Speaker 1: understanding of this work and some of the deeper parts

945
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Speaker 1: of the sacred journey beautiful. I definitely want to add

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Speaker 1: those to my list as well well. Thank you so much, Debbie.

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Speaker 1: It is always a pleasure to share space with you.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you sharing with the community today. You

949
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Speaker 1: are so amazing. It was such an honor to be

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Speaker 1: on this show, and I have just loved, loved, loved

951
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Speaker 1: following your work, and I want to say I just

952
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Speaker 1: really honor you for being who you are in the

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Speaker 1: world and for showing up for all of us so

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Speaker 1: powerfully with your work and everything that you've created. So

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Speaker 1: thank you, so much, thank you. I'm so glad Debbie

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Speaker 1: was able to join us for today's conversation. To learn

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Speaker 1: more about her and her work, visit the show notes

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Speaker 1: that Therapy for Black Girls dot Com slash Session one nine,

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Speaker 1: Thank you all so much for joining me again this week.

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Speaker 1: I look forward to continue in this conversation with you

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Speaker 1: all real soon. Take good care,