1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: It's now officially open. This is draft season. Thank you 2 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: so much for joining us. 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: All part to you by Moody's, a proud sponsor of 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 2: the New York Football Giants. I am John Schmel. Thanks 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: so much for being with us today, everybody. This is 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: Part two of our Tony Conversation with Tony Pauline and 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 2: Dave Sivertsen. These were a quarter in October September thirtieth 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: parton me, so just keep that in mind as we 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: talk about and rank the top position groups in college football. 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 2: So there might be a game or two that happened 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: since we recorded this. So if you don't mention any 12 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: late developments, that's why. Don't hold it against the guys. 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: It's not their fault. I chose to hold this. It's 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: a really good conversation, just talking about where the strength 15 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: is in this year's draft class. 16 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: So stay tuned check that out. 17 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 2: Here's part two of our conversation myself, Tony Pulin from 18 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: sports Keita and Dave Saivertsen from Our Lads dot Com. 19 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: We're going to rank the position groups in this draft 20 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: class the way Tony decided to break these down. We 21 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: have offensive tat, we have offensive line obviously offensive tackle, interior, 22 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 2: offensive line, quarterback, running back, wide receiver, tight end, all 23 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: you have on your list, right, Tony, yep? 24 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: Correct. 25 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: And then on defense we have defensive line, off ball linebackers, 26 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: edge defenders, cornerbacks, and safety. So that's what we're gonna 27 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 2: take a look at here in this list. So we're 28 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: gonna go one by one. So we're gonna start Tony 29 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: your number one group, and then we're gonna get a 30 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 2: size number one group and we'll kind of go back 31 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: and forth that way. I'll kind of be the you know, 32 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: draft auctioneer here and make this work out a guy. So, Tony, 33 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: who is your what is your top position group in 34 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: this year's draft class. 35 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say offensive tackle, even though my top guys, 36 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: David Chaplain's not playing that well. I think you got 37 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 3: the thirteenth, fourteen potential top one hundred picks right now. 38 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: I've got potential first round grades on four of those guys. 39 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: We could see as many as six or seven and 40 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 3: in the first round. Remember, offensive tackle is a priority position, 41 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 3: and there are a lot of good potential left tackles here. 42 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 3: You know, we talked about Procter. I mentioned Chaplain Muaga 43 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 3: of Miami, Florida, who is an athletic right tackle. So 44 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: I talked about Spencer Fano, but it goes deeper in 45 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 3: that the Fanos teammate Caleb Lamo from Utah, Drew Shelton 46 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 3: of Penn State. I like Ryan Bear Pittsburgh. I think 47 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 3: Evan Link of Michigan is an offensive lineman on the rise. 48 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: Isaiah World, who we talked about at just a deep 49 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 3: class and a lot of good pass blocking left tackles. 50 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: Some good right side players in there as well. The 51 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 3: kid from Arizona State Anchor is a solid right tackle prospect. 52 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 3: I just like the class. I think it's good at 53 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: the top. I also think it's very deep, all. 54 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: Right, SI, Where do you have offensive tackle on your list? 55 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 4: Number three? The first? And I agree that it's a 56 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 4: high ceiling group. That's what I've been saying about the 57 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 4: tackles since the summer. You can see the trades, you 58 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 4: just don't see the consistency. If Proctor and these guys 59 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 4: start really playing at a high level down the stretch, 60 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 4: this is where the tape, in my opinion, this is 61 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 4: the tape that we're gonna see over the next two months. 62 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 4: This is the most important tape we're gonna watch. And 63 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 4: these guys got their feet where they're into the season. Now, 64 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 4: they're into the routine these next few weeks. That tackles 65 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 4: can absolutely be the best group in this straft. But 66 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 4: to me, the edge defenders in this class are just 67 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 4: out of this world. It's not just top heavy. I mean, 68 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 4: I might have seventeen grades that are rounds one, two, 69 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 4: three starters in the NFL at one position. You don't 70 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 4: see that. You might see that for a defensive front 71 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 4: like we did last year, but just edge defenders. The 72 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 4: ascent of Ruben Bain from Miami, Joshua Joseph from Tennessee, 73 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 4: David Bailey from Texas Tech, and TJ. Parker from Clemson. 74 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 4: He hasn't even played his best football yet. If he 75 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 4: turns it on at some point, and Keldric fall from Auburn, 76 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 4: if these guys really start reaching what we thought they 77 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 4: were going to reach, you might see eight edge defenders 78 00:03:58,440 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 4: alone go in the first round. 79 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: Tony, they were your number two group. 80 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: You like him too, And I have seventeen guys as 81 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 3: they want or two packs, So yeah, I would agree. 82 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 3: And they're bigger guys. They're guys who can do a 83 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: good job against the run. They're explosive. I think Falck 84 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 3: and TJ. Parker have not played up the expectations. If 85 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 3: they really can turn on the Jets for the rest 86 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,559 Speaker 3: of the season, it's going to be some exceptional talent 87 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: at the top along with Ruben Bain. You know, so 88 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,239 Speaker 3: I mentioned Hubulele. I happen to like Danny Dennis Sutton, 89 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: although I wish you would really put a little more 90 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 3: focus on the field rather than acting it out. But yeah, 91 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 3: it's deep and there's some potential outstanding talent at the top. 92 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 2: All right, So that's Tony. You're one and two. So 93 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 2: you have your one and three. What's your number two 94 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: in this group? 95 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 4: The corners, I think the corners, Oh yeah, And you know, 96 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 4: I feel like we've we've forgot about Jermald McCoy from 97 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 4: Tennessee a little bit. Tori Sea on January is not 98 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 4: gonna play this year most likely. There are still rumors 99 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 4: that he might. He might try to make a late 100 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 4: season comeback. That should be encouragement to Giants fans. By 101 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 4: the way, these torn acls are not what you thought 102 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 4: they were ten years ago. They bounced back. He'll be 103 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 4: back just fine for the start of next season. Avion 104 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 4: Terrell one of my favorite football players to watch. Whether 105 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 4: you know, I don't love the lack of size. He 106 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 4: might be limited to specific roles and schemes at the NFL, 107 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 4: but he's going to be a player. A name that 108 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 4: has really started to rise from a few people I've 109 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 4: talked to. He was on the radar prior to the year, 110 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 4: but he did get benched last season. But this year. 111 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 4: Jaira Hill from Michigan. I mean, this kid's movement trades 112 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 4: are off the chart. He tracks the ball exceptionally well. 113 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 4: He's cleaning up the penalties. Speaking of cleaning up penalties, 114 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 4: Davis Igbuniston from Ohio State. Great size. He's been on 115 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 4: the radar for two three years now. Sixteen penalties last year, 116 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,239 Speaker 4: only a couple this season. He's playing really good football 117 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 4: since since Week one against Texas. I thought he really 118 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 4: stood out in that game. And the Georgia kids, the 119 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 4: LSU kids, just a lot of starting caliber corners with 120 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 4: some superstar potential. I'm a huge fan of McCoy. I 121 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 4: think he if he checks out, if you erase the 122 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 4: knee issue, which to me is not a big problem, anymore. 123 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 4: This is a top ten corner, and I think Terrell 124 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 4: plays like a top ten corner as well. He just 125 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 4: might not meet the size requirements some teams have. 126 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: Hi, Tony, you have corner at five on your board. 127 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: Why do you maybe have them a little bit lower 128 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: than side? 129 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 3: Well? I mean, how many first round corners we're going 130 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 3: to get out of the draft. And it's not just 131 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 3: about the first round. I understand that. I like day two. 132 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 3: You know, minsout Delaine. I have Jai Yar Hill as 133 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 3: a third rounder based off of last year's film. I 134 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 3: have McCoy because of the injuries, a third rounder, the 135 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 3: Ohio State kid. I want to see more of him 136 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 3: because he was phenomenal as a freshman. His game's kind 137 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 3: of leveled off. He is playing well. I like the depth. 138 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 3: I just don't see. There's a lot of star power. 139 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: I just don't see. You know, offensive tackles, defensive linemen, 140 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 3: cornerbacks are where teams really those are the priority positions 141 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 3: come draft day. I don't see a lot of first 142 00:06:58,440 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: round corners in this year's draft. 143 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: All right, Tony, what is your third group on your list? 144 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 3: I know it's not a priority come draft weekend, anymore. 145 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 3: But I love this off ball linebacker group. You know, 146 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 3: these guys that complain in space, the Harold Perkins, the 147 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 3: Anthony Hills. We mentioned CJ. Allen before, Deontay Lawson, the 148 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: two kids from Malhouse Date Sunny Styles and Advrell Reach 149 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 3: weighed with dazz of Clinton, who I think is just 150 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 3: woefully underrated. It goes on and on and on. It's 151 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: not a priority come draft day, but I just think 152 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 3: there's great talent, good talent at the top, and it's 153 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: a deep group, especially to what we've seen in the 154 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 3: past couple of drifts, probably the past five or six drafts. 155 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: CY Where do you have off ball linebackers on your list? 156 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 4: I had them at four Song Connor in this like 157 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 4: same church, you know, different few type where c J. Allen, Reeves, Styles, Hill, 158 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 4: Arion Carter, Torrian Yorke, who is my most underrated linebacker, 159 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 4: the guy that just he's probably the best run defending 160 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 4: linebacker in the class, A little titan space, so I'm 161 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 4: not gonna put a one grade on him. The Perkins brothers, 162 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 4: even though they're not brothers, they're just such similar players, 163 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 4: similar last names, similar usage. There are certain guys here 164 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 4: that need to be put into specific roles. But in 165 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 4: regard to linebackers not being drafted high in recent years, 166 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 4: I just think the classes have not been good. I mean, 167 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 4: these guys right now are going to grade out. I 168 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 4: mean there's five or six guys in this class that 169 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 4: would probably been the number two or number three linebacker, 170 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 4: top three linebacker in the past five draft classes. And 171 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 4: I believe that we've see in the NFL right now 172 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 4: that the lack of ability at linebacker. It's a very 173 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 4: tough position to play now with the way the game 174 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 4: is changing, with the short passing game and quarterbacks getting 175 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 4: the ball out and tight ends being wide receiver caliber athletes, 176 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 4: it's a tough spot to play. But I think it's 177 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 4: just the prospects that have come out lately have not 178 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 4: been very very good. This group is as talented as 179 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 4: we've seen, and I think you're gonna see maybe not 180 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 4: a ton of first rounders, but you are going to 181 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 4: see a ton of first and second rounders. 182 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 3: And that the reason is is because you know, oftentimes 183 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: you're better or best athletes. On defense, you use his 184 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 3: pass rushers they use up at the lot of scrimmage 185 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 3: in their sense, after the quarterback they're not asked to, 186 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 3: you know, make plays in reverse or to cover a 187 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 3: lot of area. That seems to be changing. 188 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: All right, So let's review very quickly, Tony. We have 189 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 2: your top three are offensive tackle, edge rushers, off ball, 190 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: and ci. 191 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 1: What are your top four? I believe we've gone to already. 192 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 4: Edge corner, offensive tackle, linebacker. 193 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 2: And linebacker was for so Tony, what is number four 194 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: for you on your list? 195 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 3: Running Back? I mean I like the class, I don't 196 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 3: love the class. I think there's a lot of potential here. CJ. 197 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 3: Baxter of Texas City. He can stay healthy. Jeremiah Love, 198 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 3: I mean the Jeremiah Love we saw last week against Arkansas. 199 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 3: If he plays like that every week, he's a top 200 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: twenty pick. But it's kind of hit and miss with 201 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 3: Jeremiah Love oftentimes because they're only giving them the ball 202 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 3: six to eight times a game. But when he's on 203 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 3: his game, he's unstoppable. Justice Haynes. Can he take it 204 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 3: to the next level like he's done so far the 205 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: first more games of the year. You know the duke 206 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: the Duke kids from Penn State. I like Darius Taylor 207 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: of Minnesota, although he's injured now. A lot of talent here. 208 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 3: I don't know that we have a knockout prospect as 209 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 3: we've had the past couple of drafts. You know, God 210 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 3: is gonna be top fifteen. I think we do have 211 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 3: the potential, but I think there's a lot of good 212 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 3: a lot of good players that can be used as 213 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 3: rotational players, may be developed into feature runners. Really through 214 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 3: the fourth round by my board right now? 215 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: All right, Si, wh where do you have running backs 216 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: on your list? 217 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 4: I actually have them seventh, next to last. And it's 218 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 4: not a dislike. I like Jeremy Love. I think he's 219 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 4: a first round caliber prospect. He's got a great teammate, 220 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 4: Jerian Price. That's part of the reason why Love's not 221 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 4: getting as many touches as we might see. He's a 222 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 4: he might be a top five running back in this group. 223 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 4: But when after that first running back after Love, I 224 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 4: don't know if I see any first rounders. I don't 225 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 4: see the Omari and Hampton. I don't see Quinnchot Jenkins, 226 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 4: Trevon Henderson. I see guys, but I'm comfortable taking ideally 227 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 4: in the third. Maybe I'd reach for him in the second. 228 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 4: You know, Justice Haines is right now, I mean he's 229 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 4: in the Heisman running with what he's doing with his production. Again, 230 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 4: if he keeps this up as the schedule starts to 231 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 4: get suffer, you know we'll really talking about him. No, 232 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 4: Nicholas Singleton and k Tron Allen to me a great 233 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 4: one two punch for a college team. But to me, 234 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 4: it's again circle back to this Penn State mantra. It's 235 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 4: just a little underwhelming. They don't have that extra bite 236 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 4: to them that makes me want to say, Hey, I'm 237 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 4: gonna forego an offensive lineman or a corner or wide 238 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 4: receiver day two because I like this guy that much. 239 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 4: You know, these guys that are I just don't think 240 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 4: there's a lot of separation between the third and fourth 241 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 4: running backs and the twelfth and thirteenth running backs. 242 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: All right, Sai, So who is your fifth position group 243 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: on your list? 244 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 4: So number five would be the actually the tight ends, 245 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 4: and it's because it's they have a superstar in my 246 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 4: opinion at the top and Kenyon Sadik, who is a 247 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 4: brock Bowers caliber guy. I'm still very in on Max player. 248 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 4: He hasn't done much so far in the year. They 249 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 4: just have not given him any looks. I mean, I 250 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 4: think I was just trying to find the number. I 251 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 4: think they've thrown him the ball nine times in four games, 252 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 4: and his tape last year at Purdue was dynamite. And 253 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 4: if you remember the Ohio State coaches, they asked their players, hey, 254 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 4: I mean, ultimately, who should we go after in the 255 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 4: transfer portal, and all of them said Max Clair was 256 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 4: the best title that they faced in twenty twenty four. 257 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 4: So I think as the season progresses, you're gonna see 258 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 4: his production spike up a little bit. Same thing with 259 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 4: Jack enjuries from Texas, a transfer from Cal Again, tape 260 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 4: from last year really impressive. A name that is on 261 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 4: the radar. He almost came out last year. Eli Stowers 262 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 4: from Vanderbilt. Watch him against Alabama this upcoming weekend. An 263 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 4: Evan Ingram caliber athlete and pass catcher, also an Evan 264 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 4: Ingram caliber blocker when he's just gonna get tossed around 265 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 4: in the trenches. But those are guys that I think 266 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 4: it can be top forty five picks, and you put 267 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 4: four top forty five picks at that position, that that's 268 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 4: a really strong and rere group. But they don't have 269 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 4: Tyler Warren type. 270 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 2: So Tony it's funny you in size seem to have 271 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: running backs and tight ends kind of swapped with your 272 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 2: group because you have the same tight ends on your list, 273 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 2: by the way, but you. 274 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: Just have them a little bit further down. 275 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 3: Because I have them rated lower. I mean, you know, 276 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 3: Kenyon Sadiq, maybe he you know, he takes off from here. 277 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 3: But I think the rest of the tight ends are 278 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 3: maybe late day two picks. I mean, I like Eli Stowers, 279 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 3: the new Mexico State transfer who did well at Vanderbilt 280 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 3: last year, went back on a nice nil deal. The 281 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 3: production isn't great there. I like injuries a lot. We 282 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 3: talked about injuries. We did, you know the first week 283 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 3: between Texas and Ohio State. I've had him on my 284 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 3: radar in my database since he was a rich shirt 285 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 3: freshman at Cal. But the production isn't there. I like 286 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 3: Terrence Carter, the Louisiana transfer who was the Texas Tech 287 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 3: A real good athlete, real good pass catcher, one guy 288 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 3: to keep an eye on. Tanner Clozel, the ball State 289 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 3: transfer who's playing at Houston right now, six sixty one pounds. 290 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 3: I had a great game. Who they played Friday wasn't Oklahomas. 291 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 3: They they they went overtime. They they low, they won. 292 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 2: I think Houston Utah by Otho Houston. I'm sorry, I 293 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 2: thought you might tex this stack my beat. 294 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 3: Now Houston had like six catches. He's a guy to 295 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 3: keep an eye on. I like the class. You know, 296 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 3: maybe Sadik is able to separate himself. I just don't 297 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 3: you know. I think these guys are gonna take a 298 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 3: little while. I see a lot of Jeremy Rutgers, you know, 299 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 3: in this group, guys who you know have the potential 300 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 3: to develop, but there's no guarantee. Would just like to 301 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 3: see more production from them on the football field. And granted, 302 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 3: you know that could be a symptom of an offense 303 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 3: that doesn't throw the ball to the tight ends. 304 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 2: Off All right, Tony, So who's your number six position 305 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: group on your list? 306 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go I think we talked about the cornerbacks after. 307 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the receivers. I'm just not a 308 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 3: fan of this receiver class, maybe because we've been so 309 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: spoiled in recent years with such great receiver classes. Excuse 310 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 3: I mean, who's receiver number one? Antonio Williams. He's a 311 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 3: little bit smaller, he's been injured this year, Carnell Tate. 312 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 3: He's done well, but he's obviously been overshadowed by Jeremiah Smith, 313 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 3: who is gonna be very likely a top three pick 314 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty seven. Dion Burns, Denzel was a lot 315 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 3: of these guys are kind of the same. No one 316 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 3: has separated themselves. And I don't know how many first 317 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 3: round picks we're going to get out of out of 318 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 3: the receiver position next April. I don't know how many 319 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 3: top one hundred picks we're going to get out of 320 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 3: the receiver position next April. 321 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: Zy, Where do you have wide receivers? 322 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been locked in on the wide receiver group. 323 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 4: It's one of my primary positions for our lads. And 324 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 4: I agree with him. There's just there's not a lot 325 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 4: of standouts. And I'll tell you what some of the 326 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 4: recent wide receivers that we've seen come out of college football. 327 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 4: I don't know if any of the wide receivers in 328 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 4: this class would break their top threes. I mean, Jordan 329 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 4: Tyson is a fun player. Makay Lemon, who I did 330 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 4: have a first round, mid first round great on coming 331 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 4: into the year. He is starting to heat up, but 332 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 4: at the end that he is limited. It looks like 333 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 4: he's probably gonna be a slot only and I'm not 334 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 4: anti slot only receivers. They just tempted fall a little 335 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 4: bit on draft weekend. But fun player to watch, Yeah, 336 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 4: he's player, yeah, very fun, A winning football player to me. 337 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 4: So if he gets put in the right situation, New 338 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 4: York Giants could use a guy like him next year 339 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 4: if that slot opens up, if you want that leaves 340 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 4: in free agency. But the name that could save this group, 341 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 4: the savior of the twenty twenty six wide receivers is 342 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 4: Chris Brazel from Tennessee. This kid has started off on 343 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 4: fire about six four and a half two five. Your 344 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 4: typical simple route, I run two or three routes, run 345 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 4: I line up in the same spot Tennessee wide receiver. 346 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 4: But he's been mossing guys this year. I mean he 347 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 4: had a play called back by an offensive pass interference, 348 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 4: a bogus call by the way, this past weekend at 349 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 4: Mississippi State. I think they were at and it was 350 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 4: a play that was like wow, if that if that 351 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 4: one stood, that's the play that we would have been 352 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 4: watching leading up to the draft process. He gets behind 353 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 4: him very vertical, he gets up and he catches the 354 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 4: ball with his hands. That's the trait that I want 355 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 4: to see from these guys that maybe aren't the most 356 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 4: physical or the best after the catch, but they attacked 357 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 4: the ball with their hands. So that's the one guy. 358 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 4: If he keeps up what he's doing right now, a 359 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 4: first team All American B, he could be a top 360 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 4: fifteen pick next year. 361 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: Draft season is presented by Moody's, a proud partner of 362 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 2: the New York Giants. Decode Risk, Unlock Opportunity. Learn more 363 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: at moodies dot com. 364 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: So where do. 365 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 3: Thornton? I mean? He's tall, like done speak. Fans like Thornton. 366 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 3: I liked him. I just want to see, you know, 367 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 3: a bigger body of work more from him. But I 368 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 3: agree with he was a riser for me at UH 369 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 3: at sports Skeet. I think was two weeks ago after 370 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 3: that that performance against Georgia, that that. 371 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 4: That offense has not been putting a lot of real 372 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 4: sustainable talent into the NFL. I think that's one concern 373 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 4: that we have with people that come from that offense 374 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 4: right now. 375 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: One hundred percent inside. So where were wide receivers for you? 376 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: With they eight you said they were eighth. 377 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, my six six was the quarterback position, allright, 378 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 4: go for it. Yeah that the quarterbacks to me, I 379 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 4: came into this year saying it could absolutely be better 380 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,719 Speaker 4: than we had last year. You know, you basically had 381 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 4: the number one overall pick and Cam Warden, then the 382 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 4: Giants trade up for Jackson Dart, and then you had 383 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 4: the whole tornado of Sheder Sanders and Dylan Gabriel and 384 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 4: Jaylen Milroe. 385 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 3: Right. 386 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 4: I still think this quarterback class will be better than 387 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 4: last year. But one of these guys needs to step 388 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 4: up that preseason I really had that outlook on it 389 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 4: could be Leonora Sellers. If you put a gun to 390 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 4: my head right now and say you need to pick 391 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 4: someone today for the future, Sellers will be that guy. 392 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 4: Even though the dude he's taken I think the last 393 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 4: time I checked, I think he's taken seven sacks of 394 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 4: ten plus yards and they're his fault. He's running backs. 395 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 4: There's just a lot of rawness to him as a 396 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 4: pocket passer, but there's also a tool set to him 397 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 4: that is incredibly rare. Tools aren't what you only want 398 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 4: to pursue at the quarterback position. We know that Anthony 399 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 4: Richardson and says hello, by the way, so what we 400 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 4: need to do at quarterback over these necks? This is 401 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 4: the game again, guys. October November, Garrett Nessmeyer, You're still alive, 402 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 4: but you're hanging on by a thread. That that's the 403 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 4: number one name that I think can really make a 404 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 4: name for himself. I'm out on Drew Allard. Dante Moore 405 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 4: will be draft eligible. I do think he'll probably return. 406 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 4: I mean, Oregon pays more money than pretty much any 407 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 4: rookie contract you're gonna get out there. But the name 408 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 4: that has risen, there's two of them. One of them 409 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 4: is Fernando Mendoza from Indiana, a transfer from cal I 410 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 4: don't think he's thrown an interception yet. He isn't. He 411 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 4: isn't lighting it on fire when it comes to NFL. 412 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 4: Colber throws, but he doesn't make mistakes, and he's played 413 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 4: in some tough games, and I think his schedule is 414 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 4: gonna bee a little bit tougher and then in your 415 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 4: future as well. But the other name to me that 416 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 4: has stood out is John Mattier from Oklahoma. There's something 417 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 4: about him that I just I can't get away from. 418 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 4: He's injured right now. I think he had a surgery 419 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 4: on his throwing hand. It's just going to keep him 420 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 4: out for about a month. But he's not a Round 421 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 4: one guy. I don't know if he's a Round two guy. 422 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 4: But to me, beyond the first round, this class looks 423 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 4: like it's gonna be a lot deeper than last year. 424 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 4: But I don't know if there's that top heavy guy yet. 425 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 2: And Tony quarterbacks at seven, So you guys are kind 426 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 2: of on the same page here. 427 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I like Leonor ar Selos from the 428 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 3: get go. We talked about him before I put out 429 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 3: a tweet in August I said, if the draft was 430 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 3: held now, he's my first pick. Yeah. He needs a 431 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 3: lot of he needs work on his game and some 432 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 3: of the nuances in the quarterback position. Now I would agree. 433 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 3: I mean, we spoke about Mendoza last week coming off 434 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 3: of the Illinois game. You know he's winning. He did 435 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 3: throw his first interception last week against Iowa, and he 436 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 3: hasn't made a lot of tough NFL passes because he 437 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 3: hasn't had to. You know, you see the forty nine 438 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 3: yard touchdown pass to Elijah Surat which won the game 439 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 3: for Indiana, when they came back, you think, wow, he 440 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 3: threw the ball downfield. No, it was a five yard 441 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,239 Speaker 3: crossing padder where Elijah so broke the tackle and then 442 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: ran forty yards. So, but he's getting better and he's 443 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 3: getting good, so I think he's gonna, you know, he 444 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 3: will rise. He could potentially be a first round pick. 445 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 3: I like Matier. It's sad about the injury, but I 446 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 3: like the potential. But there's so many questions. If there's 447 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 3: a guy that I think could really rise up through 448 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 3: the draft process, it would be Taylor Green of Arkansas. 449 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,959 Speaker 3: Big athletic, can make all the throws, can beat your 450 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 3: opponents with their feet. You know, you talk about Anthony Richardson. 451 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 3: Taylor Green's done a better job winning games, although they've 452 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 3: struggled this year. The coach just got fired. He's a 453 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 3: bit more accurate than Anthony Richardson. He's not gonna be 454 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 3: drafted or as early as Anthony Richardson, but I think 455 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 3: he's a guy that people will talk about as a 456 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 3: potential second round pick. A tools the guy with a 457 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 3: lot there to develop. 458 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 2: All right, So we've gone through the top seven groups 459 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 2: for both of you guys. Now, but seven was cornerbacks 460 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 2: for you right side if I remember correctly, Yeah, one 461 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: choose perfect, yes. 462 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, quarterbacks were six for me. 463 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 2: Sorry, no, that's fine, and cornerbacks came in at seven 464 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: right quarters or second? 465 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: Perfect? 466 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: All right, So, Tony, your seventh group is defensive tackle. 467 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 3: Correct, My seventh group is quarterbacks. 468 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: My eighth group is defense tackle. Sorry, yes, go ahead 469 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: to right. 470 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 3: And I think this is just a down year. I mean, 471 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 3: Peter Woods has not lived up to expectations. I know 472 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 3: a lot of people like him. Anthony Smith has played 473 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 3: well at Minnesota. Is your first round pick? I mean, 474 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 3: I just see at a position where teams really covet 475 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 3: the top players and want to take these guys in 476 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 3: the first round. I don't know that we have any 477 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 3: guaranteed first rounders right now. I think it's more Day 478 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 3: two guys, potentially bottom half of Day two guys, fourth 479 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 3: round guys, some zero technique nose tackles, some guys that 480 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 3: can play defensive end, and the two gap system. I 481 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 3: just don't see any single player really dominate or players 482 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 3: really dominated. In my opinion, is just it's an off 483 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 3: the year for defensive tackle. 484 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: Zy, where do you have defensive tackles? Check? 485 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 4: In for you, Sam exact spot number one two four 486 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,479 Speaker 4: of US seventh spot, right behind the quarterbacks, and it's 487 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 4: I really think what took a hit here is Peter 488 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 4: Woods has not been a star. He just hasn't. He's 489 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 4: got four pressures this year. I mean that entire Clemson 490 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 4: team has been underwhelming. T J Parker and Peter Woods 491 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 4: and Clay Kate Clublink, all these guys have just not 492 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 4: lived up to the hype early in the year. Still 493 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 4: there's still some hope. But beyond beyond Peter Woods, I'm 494 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 4: not really sure what gets you excited. I mean, I 495 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 4: loved Zane Durant. He's a guy that I want to 496 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 4: kind of put my name on during the year. But 497 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 4: he's been terrible this year. And I'll tell you what. 498 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 4: His run defense tape against Oregon is scary bad. I 499 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 4: mean the guy, I mean, he's a great athlete. He 500 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 4: shows a lot of his Minnesota tape from last year 501 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 4: is something that could get anybody excited. And you start 502 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 4: thinking about Elijah Cansey, but he's been He's been bad 503 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 4: this year. There's no way around it. I mean, I 504 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,239 Speaker 4: think the best defensive tackle I've seen it has been 505 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 4: Dominque orange from Iowa State, and again he's a day 506 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 4: two nose tackle type. I mean, a guy that just 507 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 4: doesn't impact the pass game. I don't know where we 508 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 4: have Ahmad Moten from Miami, Ruben Bain's teammate. He's kind 509 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 4: of like an inside out threat. If you want to 510 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 4: make him a three tech. I think there's some potential there. 511 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 4: But I mean, you're gonna come back to the guys 512 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 4: we've talked about Kati McDonald and the kid from Oregon, 513 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 4: Amury Washington, as guys that, hey, they have NFL bodies, 514 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 4: they are NFL defensive lineman. They're just young and early 515 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 4: to the game. But if they reach their upside, then 516 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 4: then maybe they could save the group. So that that's 517 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 4: what this team, that's what this position group is really 518 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 4: kind of hanging their hand on right now, is hopefully 519 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 4: these juniors step up. 520 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: All right, Who do you have in number eight in 521 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: your position group? 522 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 4: Side safety? That's where you know they have probably one 523 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 4: of the top five players in the draft in Caleb Downs. 524 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 4: I haven't met a person yet that does not like him, 525 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 4: but there are a couple other pieces of that group 526 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 4: that I like. It's just to me, like usual at safety, 527 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 4: it just kind of falls off after the top two 528 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 4: three guys. I like Dylan Thineman from Oregon hit the 529 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 4: game winning interception the other day. Just a really hot, 530 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 4: talented player, smart, savvy, can play in the box, he 531 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,959 Speaker 4: can play in deep coverage. Calmari Ramsey is another versatile 532 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 4: piece that can play at Brian Branch type role at 533 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 4: the next level. But after those guys, I mean, I'd 534 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 4: like Jalen Kilgore on the upside, he played some outside 535 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 4: corners in Elite athlete himself six one, two eleven off 536 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 4: to a decent start this year. But again, I don't 537 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 4: know if I really am projecting a lot of these 538 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 4: guys to be stars at the next level. And to me, 539 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 4: you're talking about round four when I bring that up. 540 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 4: So do we only have three or four safeties that 541 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 4: could be drafted in the first three rounds as possible? 542 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 543 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: And Tony Safety's the next group for you too, Yeah, 544 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: it is. 545 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 3: It's Caleb Downs and everybody else. I mean, Caleb Downs 546 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 3: is probably going to be, if not the top athlete, 547 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 3: the top player for the twenty twenty six draft, he'll 548 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 3: be a top three player. Amazing. Huh. Ohio State could 549 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 3: have the best player to draft in twenty twenty six, 550 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 3: and the Jeremiah Smith the best player in the draft 551 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty seven. But it falls off a cliff 552 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 3: after that. I mean, I like key On Saab, but 553 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 3: I like him in the third round. Marie Ferral, Indiana, 554 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 3: I like them in the third round. Michigan's got two 555 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 3: safeties and TJ. Metcalf the Arkansas transfer, and Rod Moore 556 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 3: when he's healthy, he's struggle playing staying healthy. Third round 557 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 3: it's tayleb Downs and everybody else, and everybody else as 558 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 3: far as I'm concerned, really falls off the cliff after that. 559 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 2: All right, and then it leaves one position group for 560 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 2: both of you that checks in in last place. 561 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: That is the interior offensive line. Zy, why don't we 562 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: lead off with you? 563 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 4: It's always a little unfairsometimes to talk about the interi offensive. 564 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 4: I mean's so many these tackles get moved inside in 565 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 4: the pre draft process, and that's always something that we 566 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 4: could just kind of debate back and forth. But guys 567 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 4: that are just exclusively playing center and guard right now, 568 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 4: I don't see any first round picks. I might see 569 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 4: three Day two picks, not including the tackle to guard converts, 570 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 4: and to me, that's the sweet spot to draft interior 571 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 4: offensive lineman. It's in that round two three area. And 572 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 4: you know, right now my number one guy is an 573 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 4: underclassman that I'm not even sure if he's going to 574 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 4: come out. It's the kid from Texas a man Chase 575 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 4: Besants is actually a North Jersey kid by the way, 576 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 4: went to Don Bosco and he's played some tackle, he's 577 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 4: played some guard, great body control, but again his tape 578 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 4: this year has been a little disappointing. They having a 579 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 4: guard on the other side of the line, Adams, who 580 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 4: I think can be probably actually great up hire, just 581 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 4: a little bit, a little bit more physical the centers. 582 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 4: You know, I love the kid from Iowa, Logan Jones, 583 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 4: but I have to be honest about it. He's a 584 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 4: round three, round four type guy at best. I think 585 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 4: the kid from Alabama Brownsford is just way too small. 586 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 4: Connor lou from Auburn has has had some bad tape 587 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 4: against his best competition this year. I don't like the 588 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 4: kid from Florida. A lot of people do, so that 589 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 4: that group to me, I don't. I don't know if 590 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 4: I see without the tackle converts more than three starters. 591 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think the tackle convert who could make 592 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 3: a move in this draft would be Ryan Parker of Duke, 593 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 3: who I'm told is likely to come out. I have 594 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 3: him a guard. People think center the next level, but 595 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 3: that's guy to watch and I agree. I mean, Jayden 596 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 3: Roberts is my number one in tierre alignment and he's 597 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 3: got a mid third round great. People are in love 598 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 3: with Connor Loo. I don't see Connor Loo as a 599 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 3: first round pick. I'm sorry, I don't. I have this 600 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 3: ant up there as a top four player at the position. 601 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 3: Logan Jones is small. You mentioned Grals for being small. 602 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 3: A Chester of LSU, who I like coming into the season. 603 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 3: He's kind of falling off the mat there. So it's 604 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 3: not a good, pure and tire offensive line class for 605 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 3: next year. 606 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 2: All right, guys, I didn't put this on the rundowns, 607 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 2: so I'm putting you on the spot a little bit. 608 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 2: Not a ton of huge matchups this week in college football, 609 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 2: but I'll give both of you a chance. I'll throw 610 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 2: a couple games out there. Alabama Vanderbilt, two top twenty 611 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 2: programs going up. 612 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 1: Against each other. That's an interesting game. 613 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 2: And the other big one Mississippi State, Texas A and 614 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 2: m I guess four and one team for and OH 615 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 2: team and then Miami Florida. Those are three games that 616 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 2: stick out to me. Texas Tech Houston. You mentioned Houston, 617 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 2: Tony has been playing well. Texas Tech's been playing well too. 618 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 2: Anything this week, folks that you think we should be 619 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 2: keeping an eye on. If you're a big draft fan 620 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 2: or college football fan, for guys to keep an eye 621 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: on Tony, We'll start with. 622 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 3: You, Texas Florida. I mean, you know, arch Man's getting 623 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 3: booed to Texas and Florida. They may be looking for 624 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 3: a new coach real soon. 625 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: Ywait, come out, arch Manny got booed this week? Is 626 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: that Has that happened? 627 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 3: I missed that Chase the home crowd was booing him. 628 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where we are now. 629 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: Huh, all right, exactly exactly. 630 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 3: So I mean, Ken arch Manny exploit that Florida defense. 631 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 3: They've got some good players up front, and we'll see 632 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 3: if that can happen. You mentioned the Texas Tech Houston game. 633 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 3: Watched the tight ends Clozeal of Houston and Terrence Corter 634 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 3: of Texas Tech. Those teams like to put the ball 635 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 3: in the air. That should be very exciting. Ohio State Minnesota. 636 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 3: Minnesota is not having a good year, but they've got 637 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 3: some good prospects. I mentioned Anthony Smith, the defensive lineman. 638 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 3: I don't know if Darius Taylor, the running back, is 639 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 3: coming back, but if he does, that'll be a good 640 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 3: matchup to watch. 641 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: How about you side. 642 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 4: I mean you remember what happened last year at Vanderbilt. 643 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 4: I mean that that lost Alabama took it kind of 644 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 4: just derailed the entire seat. And I'm really curious to 645 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 4: see some of these underachievers on Alabama. Uh do they 646 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 4: do they? How competitive are they? They should? They should 647 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 4: wipe the floor against them. They should win by three 648 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 4: touchdowns minimum. And I want to see some competitive fire. 649 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 4: That's what Tyler Booker, guard from Alabama that got drafted 650 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 4: in the first round by Dallas. He is injured right now. 651 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 4: That was a key selling point to his scattering report 652 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 4: last year, a key reason why Dallas drafted. And he's 653 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 4: kind of like the alpha of the room, the leader 654 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 4: and you want to and he was a guy that 655 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 4: is an old school, blue collar football player. I want 656 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 4: to see some competitive nature from linebacker Deontay Lawson. I 657 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 4: want to see al the Overton LT Overton get more 658 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 4: than a couple of pressures in the game, but also 659 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 4: equally strong tests for Ee Stower Eli Stowers, the tight 660 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 4: end from Vanderbilt in a group where after the top 661 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 4: guy that the number two number three spots in that 662 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 4: tight end group are wide open. Texas A and M's 663 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 4: got three, maybe four draftable offensive linemen. The Mississippi State 664 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 4: defense has been quietly pretty pretty effective up front. They 665 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 4: have a tight end that's off their radar as well. 666 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 4: I think his last name is Tour, a guy from overseas, 667 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 4: does not does not have a lot of football experience 668 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 4: like some of these guys do growing up, and he's 669 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 4: been Uh he's a really interesting body type movement style 670 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 4: actually kind of like a JV level of Sadik to 671 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 4: be honest with you. Uh So those are the guys 672 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 4: I'll be watching uh this upcoming week, but at any point, 673 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 4: and one thing I love about the draft process is, uh, 674 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 4: you could turn on any game at any moment and 675 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 4: and look for something. It doesn't always have to be 676 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 4: the top guys. You can look for, Hey, who do 677 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 4: you think it would be? The next top undrafted out 678 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 4: and drafted free agents next year. That's why this process 679 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 4: never sleeps. 680 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 3: So I tell you offense did their feist. Yeah, you 681 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 3: mentioned sours as you should. Cedric Alexander the running back, 682 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 3: he's a good player. Diego Pavia is lighting it up 683 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 3: that he is. He Isn't he like an eight seventh 684 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 3: year senior. He won to get his eligibility back. 685 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 4: Deal. 686 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 2: Pavi is like older than half the starters in the NFL. 687 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, he's older than us. 688 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 3: He's he's a good quarterback. I mean, he's a playmaking quarterback. 689 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 3: So that's gonna be a big test for Alabama. Side 690 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 3: points out All. 691 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 2: Right, guys, side before we say goodbye, tell the folks 692 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 2: everything you guys are doing at our Lads, what you'll 693 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: find at our lads dot Com. To Tony's point, I 694 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 2: print out the depth chart every week when I get 695 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 2: ready for the Giants opponent. 696 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: It's invaluable. 697 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 2: Just tell the folks everything you're doing with that, and 698 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 2: of course all your draft stuff. 699 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. At our Lads on the score side is my 700 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 4: personal handle on X. 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We have a 721 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 4: draft preview preview guide that you could sign up for 722 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 4: on the website as well. But if you just want 723 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 4: you know the big guy that comes out every every 724 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 4: every spring, you guys can sign up for that on 725 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 4: the website right now. 726 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 2: And they still do a hard copy version, folks, if 727 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 2: you want to in your hands. 728 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: They print it and they send it. No one else 729 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: does that anymore, so. 730 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 4: I have got to do it. 731 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 2: Make sure you guys go check that out, Tony. What 732 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 2: do you have going on at sports kato all? 733 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 3: We got the Risers and sliders, got some other news. 734 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 3: We're gonna do a I'll be doing a update on 735 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 3: the top rookies in the NFL, both offense and defense. 736 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 3: I tend to forget about these guys once they're out 737 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 3: in the draft. But next week or so, we'll have 738 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 3: our first big board up about two hundred and fifty 739 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 3: to three hundred players. 740 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 2: Oh God, bless you, Tony putting those big boards together 741 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 2: this early in the season. For Tony Polling from sports 742 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: KEDA for David Sivertson from Ourlads dot Com. 743 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: I am John Schmelt. 744 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 2: This was so long, I think I might split this 745 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 2: into two episodes and take cares for two weeks here 746 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 2: on draft season. 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Part two 756 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 2: of our conversation again taking a look at the position 757 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 2: groups in this year's draft. A very unsettled draft class 758 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 2: and you know, some of the great players maybe not 759 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,240 Speaker 2: from premium positions, but again it looks like an upfront 760 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 2: type of class with offensive tackles and edge players being 761 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 2: the stars of this year's group. We thank Tony Poline 762 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 2: from sports Keita. We thank Dave Sivertsen from Our Lads 763 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 2: dot com and again go check it out their website 764 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 2: for the depth charts. First and foremost, they have a 765 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 2: premium where you get rid of the ads and they 766 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 2: have their draft content, a couple of newsletters. You can 767 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,919 Speaker 2: check that out on Ourlies dot com. Their Draft Guy 768 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 2: comes out in the spring. We thank Dave. We think Sivertzen. 769 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 2: We thank Tony Pauline. I'm Josh Schwelt. That is draft season. 770 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 2: We'll talk to you next time.