Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we wear our NFL Network
Speaker 1: polos even.
Speaker 2: On days we're not required to.
Speaker 1: And by we, I mean Patrick Clayban, who's with me
Speaker 1: in the Chris Westling podcast studio.
Speaker 3: Good to have you back, Good to be back.
Speaker 4: It's when you when you wear a polo here, it's
Speaker 4: like a network. Nobody questions anything. I could wear whatever
Speaker 4: as long as I throw this polo on. Okay, but
Speaker 4: he has anything to say, so like, I love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got the shorts on. Yeah, and you looked
Speaker 1: at those polos. They just fit just right. And yeah,
Speaker 1: it is good to have Patrick back. Our first it
Speaker 1: c friend who's gonna be with us a lot in
Speaker 1: the studio all season long.
Speaker 2: That it's back off the road.
Speaker 1: And we got Steve Weisch and Colleen Wolf coming up
Speaker 1: next week regularly, and it's all happening and I'm excited.
Speaker 1: We got our friends from the Fantasy Football podcast coming
Speaker 1: near buds. Yeah, Marcus Grant and Mike Florio for a
Speaker 1: big time draft.
Speaker 5: We're gonna have had the studio. It's just all fantasy
Speaker 5: in here.
Speaker 3: So yeah, we're gonna see legend Gregor Rosenthal.
Speaker 5: By the way, don't you forget it for.
Speaker 3: People seven rounds.
Speaker 1: We're going to take all the skill position players and
Speaker 1: just do a little mock draft so you get a
Speaker 1: little feeling of the top thirty maybe in NFL drafts,
Speaker 1: but also the top at the tight end in quarterback positions.
Speaker 1: That's going to come in just a little bit. But
Speaker 1: first let's do some news. Well, what else am I
Speaker 1: going to talk about other than Brandon Ayuk. This man
Speaker 1: is holding the NFL world hostage right now.
Speaker 3: That's not his fault.
Speaker 1: These things are complicated. As we're taping, Patrick some updates here.
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh since we last taped, is back in the mix.
Speaker 1: Apparently they were really never out of the mix, but
Speaker 1: they weren't meeting the potential trade terms that the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers were hoping for.
Speaker 3: The Patriots are out of the mix.
Speaker 1: They did that thing, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter, where
Speaker 1: they are no longer in the Brandan Ayuk sweepstakes because
Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk, apparently, according to CSM Bay Area, made it
Speaker 1: pretty clear he did not want to go to the Patriots,
Speaker 1: So it was more like he chose to not do it,
Speaker 1: and I did have this theory and I threw it
Speaker 1: out there a couple of nights ago that maybe the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers are just putting these teams out there
Speaker 1: that they kind of know Brandon Ayuk doesn't want to
Speaker 1: go to, really, which is the Browns and the Patriots.
Speaker 1: The teams he does want to go to, apparently were
Speaker 1: the Commanders who are out, and then the Steelers. And
Speaker 1: as we tape this, it's to me it seems increasingly
Speaker 1: likely that the Steelers story might happen, but we don't
Speaker 1: know yet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if it's down to Brandon Ayuk's choice, which it's,
Speaker 4: the team is going to want to negotiate a deal,
Speaker 4: right because if you're trading for Brandon Ayuk, you want
Speaker 4: him long term. And if his choice dictated not the
Speaker 4: Patriots and the Commanders are out, then who else is left?
Speaker 1: Well, the Browns in theory are there and they have
Speaker 1: the one player and Amari Cooper that if they, you know,
Speaker 1: sent him to San Francisco, maybe the twenty twenty four
Speaker 1: nine Ers aren't that much worse. We'll see. I want
Speaker 1: to kind of hold my my takes now until we
Speaker 1: know what's official. So so nice, Well, we'll leave it
Speaker 1: there with Ayuk. I mean, I think it's a mistake
Speaker 1: no matter what by the forty nine ers, But how
Speaker 1: big of a mistake we'll find out. Unfortunately, a lot
Speaker 1: of the news this time of year is injury news,
Speaker 1: and h CMC, Brandon Ayuk's teammate, was hurt is gonna
Speaker 1: miss a couple of weeks because of a calf strain.
Speaker 1: We'll hit on CMC a little bit in the fantasy draft,
Speaker 1: so don't need to stay there. But that's a little
Speaker 1: concerning for a player like Kim, who's had some issues
Speaker 1: over the year, to have a soft tissue injury this early,
Speaker 1: so that's concerning. Even more concerning is Josh Downs's injury
Speaker 1: at Colts practice today. He is out four to six
Speaker 1: weeks with a high ankle sprain. According to NFL Network
Speaker 1: insider Ian Rapaport, was one of my absolute favorite breakout picks.
Speaker 1: Could still do it, but now he's got an obstacle
Speaker 1: to start the season.
Speaker 4: And what makes it even worse, right, it comes on
Speaker 4: seven on seven's in training camp and Nick Cross goes down.
Speaker 4: They go to the ground like you obviously like all
Speaker 4: these injuries are bad, but that one's completely unnecessary, and
Speaker 4: you hear it like so much, Hey, coach what do
Speaker 4: you want on this? We want to get healthy into
Speaker 4: the season and to have an injury on seven on
Speaker 4: sevens in a situation where guys are taking guts to
Speaker 4: the ground, like, oh yeah, that's a tough one.
Speaker 1: Shane Stike and their coach was not pleased with it.
Speaker 1: In his press conference in nick Cross. You could tell
Speaker 1: felt bad about it, but he said, you know, just
Speaker 1: trying to play football. And yet Josh Downs, to me,
Speaker 1: is their clear number two in Indianapolis.
Speaker 3: Right now.
Speaker 1: They're playing them outside, they're playing them inside, and they'll
Speaker 1: figure out how the Ady Mitchell and Alec Pierce snaps
Speaker 1: and tight end targets work out. But to me, it
Speaker 1: was a very clear one. I thought Josh Downs is
Speaker 1: gonna have a big year. High ankle springs are tough.
Speaker 1: You would almost hope not never on a fantasy football realm,
Speaker 1: but from a reality realm, maybe just wait till he's
Speaker 1: all the way back, even if it's week four, week five,
Speaker 1: because these are just one of those injuries you see
Speaker 1: so many times guys come back too early. Another injury
Speaker 1: at the wide receiver position was Rondale More of the
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons. Penciled then I would say, to be their
Speaker 1: third wide receiver. Unfortunately, Hey, his injury had to involve
Speaker 1: an air cast, which is never a good sign, and
Speaker 1: immediately taken to a hospital.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's awful. The video of teammates reacting was enough
Speaker 4: to me. Didn't see any any particular injury video or pictures,
Speaker 4: but just the air cast being invoked. Let you know
Speaker 4: that this is going to be time and in a
Speaker 4: contract year for Rondale after he was he's finishing up
Speaker 4: that rookie contract that came out in the desert and
Speaker 4: you know, like people's throw out like satellite back or
Speaker 4: you know, like a guy that's.
Speaker 3: Gonna be he was a running back to one point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but the gadget is getting yards and having
Speaker 4: production and he could do that, and I wanted to
Speaker 4: see what it was gonna look like in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it would be good for him to
Speaker 1: be in for lack of a better word, just like
Speaker 1: a more normal offense. And they're thin at wide receiver. Anyways,
Speaker 1: I thought he was the solid three, and then there's
Speaker 1: a pretty big drop off behind Drake London, Darnel Mooney
Speaker 1: and then More and so that it's devastating for More
Speaker 1: and It's also something that the Falcons front office and
Speaker 1: coaching staff will have to address just quickly, just a
Speaker 1: couple of items before we get to the fantasy draft.
Speaker 1: Really looking forward to that. Connor Williams, the center who
Speaker 1: last year was with the Dolphins, ended up signing with
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Much needed for that team. Justin Simmons is
Speaker 1: visiting the Saints. We'll follow up on that if that
Speaker 1: deal actually happens, but that would be a nice move
Speaker 1: for New Orleans Titans. Starting guard Sadeek Charles retired, you
Speaker 1: young man, And they've had a bad couple of weeks Titans,
Speaker 1: just in terms of surprising absences. DeAndre Hopkins obviously had
Speaker 1: that injury. They lost Ardent Key to a suspension. Chaudobi
Speaker 1: o Wuzie has been out all of camp, so not
Speaker 1: great news for the Titans in general.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a rough in all season with a lot
Speaker 4: of excitement, especially considering the nuke news and now we're
Speaker 4: worried about up front.
Speaker 5: It got a second year quarterback. It's tough.
Speaker 1: I think he's in he's like twenty six, twenty seven
Speaker 1: years old, and yeah, coach Brian Callian said he was
Speaker 1: really surprised by it, but this happens in training camp.
Speaker 1: Player he came in. He just said football is not
Speaker 1: for him anymore. The Lions and Giants are fined two
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars each. It's a lot of money for
Speaker 1: all their fights the other day of practice. The NFL
Speaker 1: is trying to discourage fighting even though coaches encourage fighting.
Speaker 2: I thought that was interesting. That's a new wrinkle.
Speaker 1: And then I just want to say rest in peace
Speaker 1: to Dwayne Thomas, who holds an interesting place in football
Speaker 1: and Dallas Cowboys' history because he was an electric young
Speaker 1: running back when he came on to that team, but
Speaker 1: he also held out for more money and sort of
Speaker 1: had a holdout at a time when that was was
Speaker 1: crazy in the NFL, just looking for anything. And also,
Speaker 1: I know think of him because he was a subject
Speaker 1: of a really good book by doctor Z Paul Zimmerman.
Speaker 1: It was called Dwayne Thomas and the End of the
Speaker 1: Cowboys Era, I believe, and it provided an interesting look
Speaker 1: at a unique player, and it had a story in
Speaker 1: it that always stuck with me that the voters voted
Speaker 1: him Super Bowl MVP. And then because at the time
Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP was sponsored by a magazine. It was
Speaker 1: called Sport Magazine, and the editor of Sport Magazine was
Speaker 1: worried that when Dwayne Thomas accepted the award later in
Speaker 1: the offseason at the banquet and the free car that
Speaker 1: came with it, that's a big deal for these players
Speaker 1: who were making like twenty thousand dollars a year, that
Speaker 1: he was going to fly off the handle or something.
Speaker 1: So he just made an executive decision and in the
Speaker 1: moment handed the award to Roger Staubach who went eleven
Speaker 1: for nineteen for like one hundred and seventeen yards. And
Speaker 1: to Stobek's credit, he has went out of his way
Speaker 1: publicly to say that should have been Dwayne Thomas's award
Speaker 1: over and over. So rest in peace. Dwayne Thomas an
Speaker 1: interesting guy. Do like to think about the history of
Speaker 1: the game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's unfortunate because there's a media environment that
Speaker 4: would probably be more a lot more understanding and accepting
Speaker 4: of Dwayne, who was an outspoken athlete, especially black athlete
Speaker 4: in the early seventies called Gilbrd a liar said Tom
Speaker 4: Lander was a plastic man, and ultimately that level of
Speaker 4: honesty and access, you know, he had some trouble. He
Speaker 4: got racially profiled. They found some weed in the car. Right,
Speaker 4: It's a familiar story. But the way that the perception
Speaker 4: of him went out by a media that was not
Speaker 4: very friendly, I do wish that, you know, a lot
Speaker 4: of these guys had a different opportunity in a media
Speaker 4: environment that would accept them a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So he had that rookie just outstanding season, and then
Speaker 1: in the offseason, like I mentioned, he wanted to renegotiate
Speaker 1: and that just didn't happen at the time, and called
Speaker 1: Tom Landry the plastic man. Oh, it takes a gots
Speaker 1: to call Tom Landry the plastic ban in nineteen seventy one.
Speaker 1: But if you dig underneath the hut a little bit,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of similar criticism about Tom Landry
Speaker 1: back in the day. As great a coach obviously as
Speaker 1: he was. To rest in peace, Dwayne Thomas and this
Speaker 1: one little thing how housekeeping here? Patrick, Okay, before we
Speaker 1: get to the fantasy draft, I want Randy Eric's back
Speaker 1: from paternity leave to throw up on the board, our
Speaker 1: our graphic here, our team deep dive board, because I've
Speaker 1: heard from the fans they're mad, Hawaii.
Speaker 2: You spend so much time on the LA team.
Speaker 1: Oh, you're always talking about the Eagles, and so we've
Speaker 1: created a board. We're gonna go deep on all thirty
Speaker 1: two teams at some point. It's going to take a while.
Speaker 1: We can't do this all in a week. And you'll
Speaker 1: see on the YouTube show we've highlighted I don't know
Speaker 1: what color that is because I'm colorblind.
Speaker 5: It's great, it's a high I thought it was yellow.
Speaker 1: See, and that's where frankly, you guys are being insensitive.
Speaker 1: And yeah, we've highlighted the teams that we've already taken
Speaker 1: care of what we've done five so far, so twenty
Speaker 1: seven to go looking forward to that, but we'll do
Speaker 1: it throughout the course of the season so everyone feels
Speaker 1: like they get, you know, the right cum.
Speaker 4: All are better than because I would have left I
Speaker 4: would have left the team off just gas lit somebody
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: I was like, should we highlight the Bengals. We did
Speaker 1: kind of do it with Nick Wesseling, but that was
Speaker 1: more personal talk early on. No, Bengals will get their time,
Speaker 1: all right, We're gonna have our time with Marcus Grant
Speaker 1: and Mike f Florio, fantasy experts around here along with
Speaker 1: Clayband Don't Sleep by claybon As a fantasy.
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Speaker 3: Now mock Draft coming after this.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're back on the NFL Daily and I'm excited.
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Speaker 2: As it's been in weeks.
Speaker 1: We've now got the Fantasy crew has joined Patrick Claybah
Speaker 1: and I'm Marcus Grant and Mike f Florio.
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Speaker 5: Thanks for having us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad to be.
Speaker 5: I love this music.
Speaker 6: It's it's like an off Brand's sixties James Bond spy thriller.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, it could also be a game show, it
Speaker 1: could be a fantasy draft.
Speaker 3: It's a Jim Coalis is the character.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: I love how much you guys have taken fantasy at
Speaker 1: the NFL to another level. Like Florio's hair here, I'm
Speaker 1: oh man just trying to separate himself even more from
Speaker 1: the other.
Speaker 3: Mike Florio, I actually forgot.
Speaker 1: I called you, Mike Florio, saying you were coming up
Speaker 1: on the show, and people were like, you gotta say,
Speaker 1: Mike f Florio.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't care, but the other.
Speaker 1: It's confusing if he didn't know anything about fantasy what
Speaker 1: you have to say? So, yeah, of course you can
Speaker 1: check out the Fantasy podcast asked that we do. And
Speaker 1: Fantasy Live is gonna be coming up sooner than later,
Speaker 1: and Patrick's involved in that.
Speaker 3: Monday, August twelfth is when we start back up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, great programming, and yeah, this is gonna be fun.
Speaker 1: So I thought what we'd do is a mock draft.
Speaker 1: I've done very little fantasy prep so far, so this game,
Speaker 1: I made a little shakeboard that Patrick is cheating off,
Speaker 1: and you know, in the interest of time, we're gonna
Speaker 1: do something a little different here. We're gonna pick an
Speaker 1: entire starting group of skill position players, so quarterback, two
Speaker 1: running backs, three wide receivers, and a tight end and
Speaker 1: that's it.
Speaker 2: And there's just four of us. So we'll go around
Speaker 2: seven times.
Speaker 1: We're gonna put one minute on the clock each time,
Speaker 1: and you know, we'll talk about the picks and try
Speaker 1: to give some analysis and something extra. Marcus, don't just
Speaker 1: sit there and oh no, be silent. I will participate.
Speaker 3: I'm excited about it. I will participate, all right.
Speaker 1: So we randomized this before we started taping and it's
Speaker 1: gonna sound like the fixes in, but I got the.
Speaker 3: First people can understand, well.
Speaker 1: You know what I want to do. Uh, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna go. We're gonna go clockwise. So Randy behind the glass,
Speaker 1: let's let's start here, and I'm gonna go like way
Speaker 1: off the board anyways of what anyone you guys would take,
Speaker 1: I'm taking Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 1: This is one of those things where if you're not
Speaker 1: watching or paying attention to Fantasy all off season and
Speaker 1: then you look at the list and like, Justin Jefferson's
Speaker 1: the sixth wide receiver. I don't get it. Explain it
Speaker 1: to me, like, I don't care. I think he's the
Speaker 1: best player in the NFL. I'd rather have a receiver
Speaker 1: right now than a running back. I'm taking Jefferson.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he was on pace in the games
Speaker 3: he played without Kirk Cousins for two thousand yards last year. Yea,
Speaker 3: So maybe he is just quarterback proof. But the reason
Speaker 3: he's fallen where he is is because all those other
Speaker 3: wide receivers are coming back to the exact same situation
Speaker 3: and he has a quarterback down grade.
Speaker 5: The quarterback downgrade, is is it enough? Right?
Speaker 3: Because they give Jefferson.
Speaker 4: Jefferson the money, I know that they're gonna flood him
Speaker 4: with targets. They're absolutely gonna flow them with the targets.
Speaker 4: The Addison situation probably has an impact in that as well.
Speaker 3: I was I'm not worried.
Speaker 5: Well don't.
Speaker 6: I don't think it's a ridiculous pick. It's just that
Speaker 6: everybody has sort of been scared off because of Sam Darnold.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 1: They'll create passing yards, all right, So that means the
Speaker 1: minute is up and we're we're going clockwise here.
Speaker 3: I'm ope Florio your next. Okay, I'll go with who
Speaker 3: I would have win at first. Overall, Look, I know
Speaker 3: a lot of people are expecting me to say see him,
Speaker 3: see here, but I'm gonna go with CD Lamb because
Speaker 3: just like you, I want the wide receivers early. We
Speaker 3: have to start the most of them. So I will
Speaker 3: take CD there. Okay.
Speaker 1: The thing with CD Lamb being so high to me
Speaker 1: is like, I don't know, I just hate the guy
Speaker 1: coming off his career year. So just I just pushed
Speaker 1: back against that almost immediately.
Speaker 5: Regression Kim that Greg calling for.
Speaker 1: The not regression, but just like going into last year,
Speaker 1: he wasn't the first overall. So I still like CD
Speaker 1: and Tyreek just like a little bit better. Maybe AJ Brown.
Speaker 5: I get that.
Speaker 6: But you know, with all the great things CD did
Speaker 6: last year, like what's really changed in the Cowboys offense?
Speaker 6: I mean they still have to lean on it. Now
Speaker 6: you have Brandon Cooks who's a year older. They don't
Speaker 6: know who really the number two wide receiver is there,
Speaker 6: you know. I mean it was such a great offseason
Speaker 6: they went and brought Zeke back.
Speaker 2: He's he's not at training camp. That's different. The running
Speaker 2: game might be terrible.
Speaker 4: One thing that impacted CD's rapt position last year was
Speaker 4: people bought into this myth that Mike McCarthy was gonna
Speaker 4: come in and they were the rock baby.
Speaker 3: Run the ball at all.
Speaker 1: That's a good point, man, A minute goes fast. Really
Speaker 1: gotta be ready.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, look, you fell all the way to
Speaker 6: me to three, So I'm gonna I'm gonna take Christian
Speaker 6: I mean why not. Like, let's look, I get it,
Speaker 6: he's he's nicked up, he's gonna miss some time. But
Speaker 6: it's still a guy who's gonna occupy a large portion
Speaker 6: of one of the best offenses in the NFL.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna takem.
Speaker 1: I only needed to see that injury where he has
Speaker 1: a cap strain and he's out for a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks of practice, and I'm a little spooked, like a
Speaker 1: soft tissue injury, Like maybe it'll be nothing, it'll be
Speaker 1: totally fine.
Speaker 2: But when there's great other running back.
Speaker 1: Options, I actually would not have him for I have
Speaker 1: him third now among my running backs.
Speaker 4: I think the people people who aren't going to draft
Speaker 4: CMC because of this probably weren't gonna draft anyone anyway.
Speaker 4: Like I'm more concerned about Trent Williams issues related to
Speaker 4: CMC than I am. Like it's a calf Christian isn't
Speaker 4: gonna forget how to play football these next couple of weeks.
Speaker 5: Why would Kyle have him do anything?
Speaker 6: Which, by the way, it is wild that, you know,
Speaker 6: nobody's been talking about Trent Williams with all the other
Speaker 6: things happening.
Speaker 1: Right, the most important thing, my son Walker got CMC
Speaker 1: somehow ninth in a kid's draft, which just proves like
Speaker 1: it's lying stupid. It was last year. Means are young
Speaker 1: and dumb.
Speaker 4: Those kids are on the podcast, they're in the news.
Speaker 4: That's why that's why he's falling. Okay, I will take
Speaker 4: the guy who's on pace to have a billion yards
Speaker 4: last year and Tyreek Hill Okay, I don't know, Well,
Speaker 4: hang the fruit.
Speaker 1: Yeah he I think he would have a good argument
Speaker 1: for being first overall. It would be I would be
Speaker 1: totally fine with that. Maybe you get a little worried.
Speaker 1: There's not quite as many sixty yard plays in this offense, but.
Speaker 3: People, I mean there are and they're like, oh, ceedee,
Speaker 3: Lamb was the wide receiver one last year. So no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill was running away with nil. He suffered that
Speaker 3: ankle injury.
Speaker 6: Still wild to think he left Patrick Mahomes and somehow
Speaker 6: his stats got better.
Speaker 1: Right, and he's the number one player in the NFL
Speaker 1: according to the play players we'll probably voted in Like
Speaker 1: mid November when I was honking about Tyreek Hill winning MVP,
Speaker 1: So I think.
Speaker 3: You should have if he didn't get hurt.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think right, if they're looking at it from
Speaker 4: distance from his peers, right, I think I think it
Speaker 4: was a pretty good case.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like now that Aaron Donald's not anymore, you.
Speaker 3: Could also make the case for CMC then too. I
Speaker 3: don't know where he finished.
Speaker 1: But number one right, Oh, in the play best player.
Speaker 1: I don't know people hating on CMC. Are you are aware? Patrick,
Speaker 1: it's a snake draft here. You get to get back
Speaker 1: to back. Oh, you have to be ready, I see you.
Speaker 1: Kind of easy enough. We're trying to be fair because
Speaker 1: they're going to put it up on graphics after the show,
Speaker 1: who had the best team. We can have the listeners
Speaker 1: and viewers vote on who is best. Maybe we'll even
Speaker 1: keep track and if if I don't do well, you'll.
Speaker 2: Never hear about it again. I'll bring it back up.
Speaker 5: Well, snake back to me.
Speaker 4: It gives me an opportunity to I haven't been in,
Speaker 4: but I'm in Bijon.
Speaker 3: Let's do it.
Speaker 5: Ooh yeah, no, it's it's hard to not be in
Speaker 5: on Beijon.
Speaker 6: I mean what I mean, the biggest thing for all
Speaker 6: of us is that like Arthur Smith's not there to
Speaker 6: Galaxy brain this thing, right, yeah, Like I had.
Speaker 1: Him one on it was I picked on the clock.
Speaker 1: I was expecting to have one overall, but it was
Speaker 1: either him or or Jefferson.
Speaker 6: I mean, like there's no there's no chance at suddenly,
Speaker 6: like Michel Pruitz gonna get goal line carries.
Speaker 3: You know this is not gonna happen this year.
Speaker 2: No, they didn't like Tyler Algier though.
Speaker 1: They were saying in like a little team scrimmage at
Speaker 1: night that he was getting half the first team reps
Speaker 1: and he can sit there, uh.
Speaker 3: Maybe enough to split hairs between him and another running
Speaker 3: back who hasn't gone yet. But there's a clear cut
Speaker 3: top three running backs.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't think there's a secret. I think there's
Speaker 1: a clear cut top four. So we'll disagree there. But yeah,
Speaker 1: Bijon didn't do anything his rookie year that got me
Speaker 1: off my spot of like, this is going to be
Speaker 1: the best fantasy running back for the next five years
Speaker 1: in aggregate, even if he's not one every single year.
Speaker 3: He the man, and he's got his own mustard out
Speaker 3: now too.
Speaker 6: I feel like we can really Jon's Jon Yep, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: I love that sitting right there, all right, right there.
Speaker 3: Right there, all right.
Speaker 6: So I know we got a couple of we got
Speaker 6: what three wide receivers off the board.
Speaker 3: I took a running back.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go wide receiver here, and for me, the
Speaker 6: next best available wide out is going to be Jamar
Speaker 6: Chase look, Joe Burrow's back and healthy again. Those two
Speaker 6: seem to have some sort of mind meld since their
Speaker 6: days at LS. You they they're they're even so connected.
Speaker 6: They both shaved their heads at the same time. That's how,
Speaker 6: that's how in lockstep they are. I think a healthy
Speaker 6: Jamar Chase, a healthy Joe Burrow just sort of go
Speaker 6: destructo on the AFC North this year.
Speaker 1: I'm selective about what Camp hype I'm willing to believe in,
Speaker 1: But for some reason, like Joe Burrow just looking all
Speaker 1: the way back at Camp, I'm believing in that because
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase quietly had his best year by far as
Speaker 1: a rookie, and it does feel like he's kind of
Speaker 1: due right now to have that career year type of year,
Speaker 1: and that there's a pig drop off between him and
Speaker 1: t Higgins. I was the guy who was LIKEE Higgins
Speaker 1: is almost like one a B but he's.
Speaker 3: Really no, he's not. He's gonna have a video game
Speaker 3: season eventually where he goes for like seventeen hundred yards
Speaker 3: or whatever that's coming. But uh, I'm picking the other
Speaker 3: running back there. I said, it's a clear cut top three.
Speaker 3: Gimme Breese Hall who had one goal one carry last
Speaker 3: year and it still was the RB two in fantasy football.
Speaker 1: That's one where I was surprised when I saw the
Speaker 1: the average apposition that he's getting so high you get
Speaker 1: to me, it seems like like a slight projection.
Speaker 3: I don't know. He was the RB two last year
Speaker 3: despite a slow start and the no touchdowns and Aaron
Speaker 3: Rodgers the bad quarterback situation.
Speaker 4: Literally coming back from that ACL repair. And so now
Speaker 4: he's had a full he's had a full off season,
Speaker 4: full season. I don't see why. As much as I like,
Speaker 4: I would love to be, you know, cautious on all
Speaker 4: things Jets.
Speaker 2: But offensive line should be better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the one Jet that I feel good about.
Speaker 3: The rest not so much.
Speaker 1: I guess Wilson, I guess he could be freaked out
Speaker 1: injury wild anyone, but for some reason, because it's happened,
Speaker 1: more freaked out injury wise about him. And he's very
Speaker 1: big play reliant, maybe not quite as many like five
Speaker 1: that is a.
Speaker 3: Big play reliant because he makes a big place. The
Speaker 3: injury thing is what I separate Beijon and Bresee.
Speaker 1: This is why they kicked me out of the fantasy community.
Speaker 1: I think I wrote it without that they're sixth at
Speaker 1: running back.
Speaker 3: I want to know who's in your clear cut top four.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess we're about to hear we're about.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll take him back to back here, let's go, Well,
Speaker 1: Saquon would be one place to start, right, Why would
Speaker 1: he not be? I think people are overthinking it. He
Speaker 1: passed the eye test last year that he is still
Speaker 1: very much Saquon running behind in one of the better
Speaker 1: offensive lines in the league, even though they lost a
Speaker 1: couple of pieces there in Philadelphia, Like they are gonna
Speaker 1: have touchdown opportunities.
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna catch.
Speaker 2: The ball more.
Speaker 1: They've been doing that at camp. I don't doubt the talent.
Speaker 1: Like just such a better situation, I think he's as safe.
Speaker 3: As it gets.
Speaker 6: I think I think it's sort of ends up being
Speaker 6: a wash, right, because he's in a much better offense.
Speaker 6: You mentioned a much better offensive line. The difference is
Speaker 6: the Eagles won't have to lean on him the way
Speaker 6: the Giants like he was Giants offense. So it's like
Speaker 6: we've got to feed him touches like here, you know,
Speaker 6: they can give him the ball, they can get it
Speaker 6: to a j Brown, Devanta Smith. I mean they can
Speaker 6: spread it around a little bit more. So I think
Speaker 6: that's the difference.
Speaker 4: And I feel like we're gonna learn a little bit
Speaker 4: more about Saquon and the Eagles as well. Because he's
Speaker 4: not gonna come off the field. There's not gonna be
Speaker 4: as much rotation at the running back position. So we
Speaker 4: could see whereas Saquon in the passing game in New
Speaker 4: York was like, ah, God, what are we gonna do?
Speaker 4: Literally like this is the only thing we can do
Speaker 4: with our pass He's good Saquon involved now, I think
Speaker 4: it's more incorporated.
Speaker 3: And everyone's afraid of the toush push stealing touchdowns. DeAndre
Speaker 3: Swift and Saquon had the same number of goal on
Speaker 3: carries last year. Even if he's losing some to Jalen
Speaker 3: Hurts being on a better offense.
Speaker 1: You gotta believe in the tout and the situation is
Speaker 1: great all right. Now, you're not gonna find out who's
Speaker 1: in my tier because I only have one wide receiver
Speaker 1: left in my first tier of receivers too, so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take him instead. I'm gonna stack some Eagles Saquon
Speaker 1: and AJ Brown put him on the same team get all.
Speaker 3: The Eagles touchdowns.
Speaker 1: I just feel like maybe I'm too basic these days
Speaker 1: when it comes to fantasy that like if they're that
Speaker 1: good and they're in the middle of their prime, I
Speaker 1: try not to think about it too deeply that I
Speaker 1: just can't imagine AJ Brown not having an incredible and
Speaker 1: dominant season. Whether he's as good or as chased and
Speaker 1: Tyreek like we'll see. But to me, he's in that
Speaker 1: tier of wide receivers. Tell me I'm wrong.
Speaker 3: He is the most disrespected elite wide receiver because he
Speaker 3: doesn't go Like in early drafts, it's the top five
Speaker 3: guys and then like you'll see Bejon and Breeze and
Speaker 3: then the other start to go, and like I'm always
Speaker 3: like AJ Brown belongs in that group, Like he's not
Speaker 3: far behind any of them. And yet he's got a
Speaker 3: great quarterback. He's got a new OC that could get
Speaker 3: the most out of him, I believe. So yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: excited for that.
Speaker 1: Make your own less people like this is where I
Speaker 1: like it. Just take the guys you want. It's not
Speaker 1: like reality's gonna be a lot, you know, less predictable.
Speaker 6: I mean, I won't say disrespected, but I think he's
Speaker 6: the elite receiver that also has another elite receiver alongside
Speaker 6: of him, Right, So I think that's the fear.
Speaker 4: And also how they finished is going to influence people.
Speaker 4: If the season ended in week eight, it's like, oh
Speaker 4: my god, Brown.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, you don't like that. The quarterback doesn't respect
Speaker 1: the head coach. I mean, seems like a mile this year.
Speaker 1: Who's next? I'm now confusing?
Speaker 3: Right, all right, go, so you you left this one
Speaker 3: on the board there, I'm gonna take the Aria stark
Speaker 3: of and give me a manro s. We can go
Speaker 3: out there and and look, you talk about the great
Speaker 3: year he had last year, then you watch receiver and
Speaker 3: you're like every body part of his was hanging on
Speaker 3: by a thread by like week four. So imagine what
Speaker 3: this guy could be with a healthy foot and a
Speaker 3: healthy oblique in what we know is going to be
Speaker 3: one of the best offenses in.
Speaker 4: Football, constantly loaded up with targets, always open. The injury concerns, right,
Speaker 4: he did miss that time, but it's like, that's that's everybody.
Speaker 4: And that's one thing I've been trying to get out
Speaker 4: of my vocabulary for the entire If he stays healthy,
Speaker 4: you can apply that to every person on the planet.
Speaker 5: I'm done.
Speaker 3: I'm justuse.
Speaker 1: I was really I'm looking at this ADP with Claypon
Speaker 1: and he's going eighth overall.
Speaker 3: I really was hoping he falls one wide receiver three
Speaker 3: less despite the misstime. Eight eight isn't high enough. No,
Speaker 3: he I have him, This is gonna I have him
Speaker 3: ahead of Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 2: M Yeah, not that crazy, all right, Marcus.
Speaker 6: See, now we're a spot where I'm not I'm not
Speaker 6: in love with anybody at this particular ADP. But I
Speaker 6: think what I am going to do here, I'm gonna
Speaker 6: go Jonathan Taylor because I feel like we haven't talked
Speaker 6: a lot about him, you know, as a fantasy community,
Speaker 6: Like when we talk about the cold, we've we've been
Speaker 6: focusing on Anthony Richardson in the rushing upside and can
Speaker 6: he be another Cam Newton type and on and on
Speaker 6: and on. But like, let's not forget who Jonathan Taylor
Speaker 6: was when he was fully healthy, and to have those
Speaker 6: two guys in the backfield I think is potentially amazing
Speaker 6: for this offense. I think he gets a ton of opportunity.
Speaker 6: I think he scores a bunch of touchdowns. I just
Speaker 6: feel like he's sort of flying under the radar, if
Speaker 6: that's possible.
Speaker 1: Whenever I do drafts on a podcast, I have immediate regrets.
Speaker 1: In my first immediate that didn't take Taylor, that I
Speaker 1: took AJ Brown over Taylor, that.
Speaker 2: Was the other running back in my group four.
Speaker 1: Because when when you have a guy that used to
Speaker 1: be going first or second overall in fantasy and everything
Speaker 1: is geared up because he's healthier now the offensive line
Speaker 1: for a monster season, and Chris Ballard is like the
Speaker 1: one guy I'll talk about is Jonathan Taylor is going
Speaker 1: to have a monster season.
Speaker 2: I buy it, And yeah, that's a good pick.
Speaker 3: AJ Brown was a good pick as well. Okay, we're mad.
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's get another line.
Speaker 3: I'll take Jamir Gibbs.
Speaker 4: Oh, it's honestly, because people are you could say, the
Speaker 4: big play criticism, like all these other things. He's having
Speaker 4: to share time. The time that we saw Jamir Gibbs
Speaker 4: in his rookie year, I'll take. I'll take that year again,
Speaker 4: Like I'm comfortable with getting that year again here at
Speaker 4: this point in the draft, and I'm not.
Speaker 5: I'm not even gonna worry about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're in the team so much better too. I
Speaker 1: think he is getting better just as a player. They
Speaker 1: are a team where it just feels like they can't
Speaker 1: be better than they were last year. The yards, though,
Speaker 1: will shake out maybe in a I don't know if
Speaker 1: a mon Ro can get quite as much as he
Speaker 1: got a year ago.
Speaker 2: I think Jamar Jimier Gibbs can get more now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I still worry.
Speaker 5: I mean, I like Jimier Gibbs.
Speaker 6: I just worry that David Montgomery still exists and he's
Speaker 6: gonna get a lot of work there in Detroit.
Speaker 2: Good and give my guy a break, and he's awesome.
Speaker 1: Like Jamiir Gibbs is closer, I think to the rest
Speaker 1: of these running back who already went Whereas if I
Speaker 1: just wanted an actual NFL running back for one game,
Speaker 1: he might be the best running back in the league. Like,
Speaker 1: I think there's a chance that he's that talented. Uh,
Speaker 1: we're that talented. There isn't a podcast out there that's
Speaker 1: giving any better fantasy advice than this right now, well
Speaker 1: except for Mike. Sorry, but we are going to take
Speaker 1: a quick break and we'll come back for the grand
Speaker 1: finale of this draft. Raft rounds four through seven. We
Speaker 1: flew through that pretty quick.
Speaker 5: We stayed this nimble.
Speaker 3: Back on NFL Daily.
Speaker 1: Gonna be the second half of the most influential, consequential
Speaker 1: fantasy draft of the season. If I do well, We're
Speaker 1: coming back to this and now, if you're watching on YouTube,
Speaker 1: we're gonna fly up our team so far. You know
Speaker 1: Eric and Randy behind the glass. You can look at
Speaker 1: the teams that we have so far. I have an
Speaker 1: all NFC team justin Jefferson, AJ Brown and Saquon Barkley,
Speaker 1: so you can follow along. We'll look at the complete
Speaker 1: teams at the end of the show, but they're going
Speaker 1: to roll through them now if you're just catching up.
Speaker 1: But we are back and it's a snake in the
Speaker 1: draft here, Patrick, You're up.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 4: So I was able to satisfy my running back position.
Speaker 4: I do want to remind people that, you know, if
Speaker 4: you're listening to this draft and want to have your
Speaker 4: actual draft strategy, all the drafts aren't going to be.
Speaker 3: This compact and concise.
Speaker 4: And ultimately, I like tell and I think talent is
Speaker 4: gonna overcome a whole lot, and I it's a risk
Speaker 4: because I need him to overcome a whole lot, but
Speaker 4: I'll take Davante Adams.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, that's totally reasonable.
Speaker 4: Use Again, volume is king, and if Davante is getting volume,
Speaker 4: he's getting Buckets's he going to be upset about some
Speaker 4: balls being thrown to places they shouldn't be? Yes, But
Speaker 4: another reason he's upset is gonna be it's because he
Speaker 4: cares not one of the almost get Jimmy up out
Speaker 4: of there, so somebody had less guy to complain about. Look,
Speaker 4: I mean, everybody's worried about the quarterback situation, but I'm
Speaker 4: with you. He's still one of the most talented receivers
Speaker 4: in this league, and he's by far going to be
Speaker 4: the target monster in this offense, and that's mostly what
Speaker 4: we want.
Speaker 1: I had him seventh, that wide receiver, and that was
Speaker 1: after going to Raiders practice this week and seeing an
Speaker 1: O'Connell triple pump on every throw, an interception, like every pass.
Speaker 1: It was not pretty. And yet it's DeVante. He'll get yard,
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 6: So I am up, and like Patrick, I have satisfied
Speaker 6: my running back requirement here, so I'm gonna go back
Speaker 6: to the wide receiver spot. This is a couple of
Speaker 6: different options here, but I am going to go with
Speaker 6: Garrett Wilson at this spot. This is a dude who was,
Speaker 6: you know, just outside the top twenty five, had over
Speaker 6: one thousand yards ninety five catches last year with awful
Speaker 6: quarterback play, and so the expectation being that Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 6: is healthy. I don't even need Aaron Rodgers to be
Speaker 6: like great vintage Aaron Rodgers. I just need him to
Speaker 6: be even if he's eighty percent of the peak Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 6: that's light years better than anything he had last year.
Speaker 6: And so if he was able to get a thousand
Speaker 6: yards with that quarterback crew, I'm excited about what.
Speaker 5: He can give you with a decent quarterback.
Speaker 1: I think he has the perfect recipe for fantasy value
Speaker 1: because he has the great quarterback, but he doesn't have
Speaker 1: a great competition kind of thin there, Like is Mike
Speaker 1: Williams ever gonna really be healthy? I guess he just
Speaker 1: came off the pup list.
Speaker 3: But I like Malachi Corley more than him personally. That's
Speaker 3: a section I'm up right, Yes, Should I go with
Speaker 3: the safe pick or no splashlash man, give me Marvin
Speaker 3: Harrison Woo all right, dang who I have as a
Speaker 3: top ten wide receiver in MI.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a little I didn't even have him in
Speaker 1: my top twenty.
Speaker 4: Maybe in hindsight, it makes so much sense because myself
Speaker 4: and Michael Liffalorio firm Kyler Camp yokes, yes, and so
Speaker 4: to see him with a top tier wide receiver like this,
Speaker 4: I understand that.
Speaker 3: We've seen it already translate when he had d Hop
Speaker 3: de Hup was routinely like putting up top five, top
Speaker 3: ten numbers. And I think Marvin Harrison, like, I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna say rookie year, Marvin Harrison could be d Hop,
Speaker 3: but he could be de Hop right like the field,
Speaker 3: he could thrive in the red zone, Like don't I
Speaker 3: don't see.
Speaker 6: I'm very bullish on this off talent and opportunity. I mean,
Speaker 6: that's all, that's all we're really asking for. You're talking
Speaker 6: about arguably the most talented receiver in this class, and
Speaker 6: you talk about Gert Wilson not having a lot of
Speaker 6: target competition.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's sneaky, does Jones, Michael Wilson,
Speaker 1: Trey McBride. I'll ride with those guys and the running backs.
Speaker 1: I actually think, oh see, more than the Jets.
Speaker 6: This is how I know this is how I know
Speaker 6: that Greg's been out of the fantasy community for a while,
Speaker 6: because because there's a Greg Dorch hive that has.
Speaker 3: George too and Trey McBride like, he's very, very popular
Speaker 3: the human doorge.
Speaker 1: Dave that though you have to, we are required to
Speaker 1: take a tight end. So I I think he will
Speaker 1: be drafted.
Speaker 3: You're up, I am up. Yeah, you got back to backs.
Speaker 3: I again.
Speaker 1: I'm really regretting the aj Brown pick now because there's
Speaker 1: like a drop off at running back.
Speaker 2: Taylor would have been a better idea. I'm going Puka.
Speaker 1: This injury, it's a bursa sack injury, Sean McVay said,
Speaker 1: which typically is just a one week injury, so that
Speaker 1: they're being very careful with him. And I know Cooper
Speaker 1: Cup looks better at training camp, like I was there
Speaker 1: for a day. You can't based too much on one day.
Speaker 1: But Puka is gonna be the number one option in
Speaker 1: this offense. He's younger, he's faster, he's more dynamic. I
Speaker 1: feel like he is right there with all the wide
Speaker 1: receivers that we've said so far.
Speaker 3: Really after the top three or four, that was gonna
Speaker 3: be my boring pick Okay, so I went.
Speaker 5: Splash dang.
Speaker 3: Calling me boring. He's just Pooka. Everyone loves Pooper.
Speaker 5: How do you know?
Speaker 6: I love the fact and this is has nothing to
Speaker 6: do with the footballer fantasy, but I just love the
Speaker 6: fact that Pooka has lived his best life this offseason.
Speaker 2: Yes, and lost weight doing it. Like he look his
Speaker 2: body looks different.
Speaker 6: Right, I mean like I'm all here for like, get
Speaker 6: after it. Man, you had a great rookie season. You
Speaker 6: live in Los Angeles, like, do your.
Speaker 3: Thing, dude. I love it. So is this my pet?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: No, I know corrects, it's the It's just we're gonna snake.
Speaker 1: Thanks Walker, Love you, buddy.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: I'm going to take the guy you took a quarterback
Speaker 3: last year.
Speaker 5: Walker.
Speaker 1: Actually, I'm going to take the first quarterback off of
Speaker 1: the board. I do think there's a difference between the
Speaker 1: top couple quarterbacks from the rest.
Speaker 2: I'm taking Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not really buying the mahomes Is back
Speaker 1: to QB one fantasy idea. I think this is Josh
Speaker 1: Allen MVP season. I don't care about the weapons around him.
Speaker 1: He's still at the point in his career where He's
Speaker 1: gonna have rushing value, especially towards the end of the season.
Speaker 1: And uh, I feel good about that because I think
Speaker 1: the other positions they're they're more even with the players
Speaker 1: that are remaining. I want either Josh Allen or one
Speaker 1: other quarterback.
Speaker 2: But I'll take Josh.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, you don't have to tell me I'm
Speaker 3: the biggest Josh Allen stand there is. But I'm trying
Speaker 3: to think from a fantasy standpoint here, Like, but.
Speaker 1: This isn't a normal draft because we have to fill
Speaker 1: in all these positions are getting.
Speaker 3: They've both finished their running back room, right, So I
Speaker 3: think I should take a running back here. This draft
Speaker 3: does create some a little bit of strategy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe maybe we should. Uh we should prosilyze more
Speaker 4: four team leagues.
Speaker 3: You know what I will. I will double down on
Speaker 3: my Kyler Murray love, and I will take Trey McBride
Speaker 3: as it is. You're gonna take Kyler Murray instant payoff,
Speaker 3: all right?
Speaker 5: All right? I like Trey McBride. He's my tight end one.
Speaker 6: I mean, he made he made zach Ertz expendable in
Speaker 6: Arizona last year.
Speaker 1: So between the two of you, Marcus is Floria the
Speaker 1: one throwing out hotter takes just to get like a
Speaker 1: little attention. He's like, I got I got McBride, who
Speaker 1: needs Kelsey.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing. McBride was the tight end one
Speaker 3: with Kyler Murray last year in targets and in fantasy points.
Speaker 5: Not a hot tap. I don't think it's a hot take.
Speaker 1: Fact, we actually did a tight end ranking spot on
Speaker 1: around the NFL, and I think we had him as
Speaker 1: like the number three tight end in the entire Nify reality.
Speaker 3: He's that good. He really is that good.
Speaker 6: I mean literally he started he got hot last year
Speaker 6: and zach Ertz is like, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 3: I'm a head off.
Speaker 2: I'm an even more competition.
Speaker 1: So even if he's as good or better, there's just
Speaker 1: better receivers there then there were a year ago because
Speaker 1: of Marvin Harrison Junior and even Jay Jones, like a
Speaker 1: healthy Say Jones, I'm nuts.
Speaker 3: But there's more receivers in Kansas City, greg from the Jones.
Speaker 3: But I love it.
Speaker 1: I just seen Say Jones is like a quality rotation
Speaker 1: receiver when he's out there and he's like a third
Speaker 1: or fourth. That's a Patrick's mocking me.
Speaker 3: No love it.
Speaker 1: I do love this Natalie looking down. We run in fantasy.
Speaker 1: Before you were even alive.
Speaker 3: We no longer talk about Za Jones standing up. So
Speaker 3: that's nice still talking.
Speaker 1: Let you wouldn't want to draft Ja Jones in fantasy.
Speaker 1: I just mean like he's part of a good rotation.
Speaker 1: Supposedly he's been good at camp.
Speaker 6: All right, so I'm looking I still have one more
Speaker 6: wide receiver spot. I feel good about the tight ends
Speaker 6: that are left out there, so I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 6: But I'm worried that wide receiver's hollowing out. So I'm
Speaker 6: gonna take Drake London here because I'm very much a
Speaker 6: Drake London. Stand It's not just me being a USC homer.
Speaker 6: I mean, I think he's talented and he finally has
Speaker 6: the quarterback upgrade we've been asking for, right, No more
Speaker 6: Desmond Ritters, no more Marcus Mariota's. I mean the fact
Speaker 6: that we were sort of like, hey man, Taylor, Heineke,
Speaker 6: maybe that can make like that's that's kind of where
Speaker 6: we were at some point.
Speaker 3: So now it's Kirk Cousins. I'm ready to go with
Speaker 3: Drake London. I love that I think he's set up.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, we actually talked about it earlier in the show
Speaker 1: andrey to Rondell Moore, which doesn't sound great.
Speaker 2: But that's a thin group even for that.
Speaker 1: And I just think this guy, our friend, Matt Harmon,
Speaker 1: he's been talking up that like he's profiled like a
Speaker 1: one receiver last couple of years, just hasn't had the opportunity.
Speaker 3: Am I on the clock?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's my clock about to run out. I
Speaker 6: think we're sometimes we're playing out there. Oh okay, but
Speaker 6: if you want to go.
Speaker 4: I just got excited because I am going to stay
Speaker 4: the case here and I believe it and I will
Speaker 4: do so with my pick.
Speaker 5: I will take Cooper Cup right here. Oh right right.
Speaker 4: I realize I'm I'm leaping a lot of wide receivers,
Speaker 4: a lot of guys that we think great things about,
Speaker 4: Nico Collins being one of them. I just feel that
Speaker 4: Pooka allows Cooper Cup to be Cooper Cup, and he'll
Speaker 4: be in the slot. He can pile up targets, pile
Speaker 4: up catches, pile up rack. If we have an injury
Speaker 4: concern again, I don't care. I have injury concerns about everybody.
Speaker 4: It's the national football It's the worst thing about it. Yes,
Speaker 4: I will take Cooper Cup here and feel great about it.
Speaker 3: I am not sold that Cooper Cup is still not
Speaker 3: the ramswad receiver one because last year, I mean was
Speaker 3: a last year. He had the hamstring injury in preseason.
Speaker 3: He comes back, he played well, He then had a
Speaker 3: high ankle sprain that he missed that time in the
Speaker 3: next two games were weird. But in the games where Cup, Pooka,
Speaker 3: and Stafford played, they were separated by two targets.
Speaker 1: Okay, but what about the yards and touchdowns on those?
Speaker 1: Like he wasn't the same guy, So that freaks me out.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a crazy year.
Speaker 3: Part of that. Where's the top two water receiver?
Speaker 1: I'd rather have a lave Who's so now I can
Speaker 1: just throw the names out there because I'm I'm stacked
Speaker 1: at right receiver DK.
Speaker 2: I'd rather have him than Cup. But then I'd probably
Speaker 2: take Cup.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, you have one more pick, though, Patrick,
Speaker 4: I have one more pick. You do, and, much of
Speaker 4: the chagrin of some people sitting at this desk, I
Speaker 4: will take Kyle.
Speaker 2: Pitts second tight end off the start.
Speaker 3: I'm in.
Speaker 4: Wow, I haven't been in yet. I'm in now I'm
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four cowpits.
Speaker 6: All right, all right, I mean I I I'm not
Speaker 6: back inks, I never left. I've been in the whole time,
Speaker 6: laur and I have been here the whole time. But
Speaker 6: we're ready to welcome more folks for the band wagon over.
Speaker 1: Kelsey, I am Laporta, sure did Andrews, and I'm doing
Speaker 1: it again.
Speaker 3: Would you ride?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: Yes, oh, I would have tight end won Kyle Pitts
Speaker 3: love it.
Speaker 4: The value of the particular pick does play like I'm
Speaker 4: not taking either of those guys, like.
Speaker 2: Right, we only need to take four tight ends?
Speaker 4: Yes, right, right, but yeah, just considering where where I am.
Speaker 4: I feel great about it, all right, feel good about
Speaker 4: all right? Uh okay, So that's so. Now it's back
Speaker 4: to me here. I'm gonna take a tight end. Uh So, I'm.
Speaker 3: Gonna interesting the tight ends going before the quarterbacks class.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, here's the when you draft, you learned me,
Speaker 6: you draft with with actual analysts. It's like a game
Speaker 6: of chicken to see who the first quarterback.
Speaker 3: Generally this drafted. It's definitely yeah.
Speaker 6: Anyway, I'm taking Sam Laporta mostly because he's the third
Speaker 6: tight end off the board.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 6: I mean we talked about Sam Laporter is the first
Speaker 6: tight end I would have waited in, like gotten a McBride,
Speaker 6: a Pits, maybe a Mark Andrews. But like we're talking
Speaker 6: about him as a third tight end in this draft, Like, yeah,
Speaker 6: I'll take him. He was like he was the number
Speaker 6: one tight end in Fantasy last year as a rookie.
Speaker 6: I don't you know, again, the situation and hasn't really
Speaker 6: changed much in Detroit. Maybe they can't get better, but
Speaker 6: I don't think they have a major fall off either.
Speaker 1: No, and he runs the route that Jared Goff loves
Speaker 1: to throw the most and is maybe the best in
Speaker 1: the NFL at throwing. It's crazy. I mean, maybe the
Speaker 1: greatest tight end rookie season of all time.
Speaker 3: Tight Ends did improve a lot. It was the best
Speaker 3: Fantasy rookie season ever by a tight end.
Speaker 2: Mak Good, though, got over it.
Speaker 3: He just didn't have He had more guards than the Porter,
Speaker 3: he just didn't have the touchdowns. I'm up right, yep. Uh.
Speaker 3: There's a guy who planted my flag on this year,
Speaker 3: and it's surprising because he's on my team's biggest rival.
Speaker 3: But Isaiah Pacheco, I think Isaiah Pacheco is about to
Speaker 3: be a top five fantasy running back, maybe even better
Speaker 3: this year. Wow, it's a lot of angry running, a
Speaker 3: lot of He learned how to catch down the stretch
Speaker 3: last year and that, and now there's no Jarrick McKinnon.
Speaker 3: There's I mean, his backups are Clyde Everwards, a lair
Speaker 3: in a rookie that most of the world didn't know
Speaker 3: existed before training camp.
Speaker 1: Right, got in big picture because I'm the only one
Speaker 1: that has a running back pick left, and I have
Speaker 1: no idea who I'm going to take. All these guys
Speaker 1: seem so similar to me. Again, why I made a
Speaker 1: mistake not taking Taylor earlier, James Cook, Derrick, Henry Travis, etnn.
Speaker 1: I would throw Kamara maybe even in that group, Kyrin Williams.
Speaker 1: I love ramondre still as like a potential difference ken Walker, Like,
Speaker 1: those are a lot of guys to be who you
Speaker 1: could make cases for almost any of them over each other.
Speaker 2: So maybe it's a year that you wait that round.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 6: I don't know, Yeah, I mean, I think that's a
Speaker 6: spot at least for me where I tend to wait.
Speaker 6: I'll go wide receiver, maybe a tight end and then
Speaker 6: there's some middle round guys.
Speaker 3: I like you.
Speaker 6: I like James Cook a little bit later. I like
Speaker 6: David Montgomery a little bit later, Jalen Warren I like
Speaker 6: a little bit later. So like, that's kind of a
Speaker 6: tier of running backs and I'm like, eh, I'd rather not.
Speaker 5: But if you do like one of those names, and
Speaker 5: you get laid into your draft and you don't have
Speaker 5: a positional need, I think it's just fine, Yeah, to
Speaker 5: go ahead and grab that guy, because that guy will
Speaker 5: have incredible value in week five, six, seven, Like that.
Speaker 5: That may win you your.
Speaker 1: League if you believe it can never have too many
Speaker 1: running backs.
Speaker 3: Right, who's up you? Oh? Back to you for two?
Speaker 5: Get you.
Speaker 3: I gotta one of your guys.
Speaker 1: I gotta choose a tight end, and I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: Dalton Kincaid for a couple of reasons. One to stack
Speaker 1: Josh Allen with him. That's fun on this team. And
Speaker 1: two to just like annoy any Chiefs fans out there
Speaker 1: that yes, Travis Kels is going undrafted.
Speaker 2: It just doesn't seem like it's gonna be fun to
Speaker 2: this year.
Speaker 3: I'm a little worried. I'm a little worried.
Speaker 1: Could we be worried he's gonna be a tight end too,
Speaker 1: like whatever, Like yeah, if he had better touchdown.
Speaker 3: Look, last year finishes as a Titan one once again.
Speaker 6: I mean he's he's gonna be fine, right, Like He's
Speaker 6: maybe not as great as he once was, but he's
Speaker 6: still better than your ninety percent of the tight ends
Speaker 6: out there.
Speaker 1: There's like six games every season where it seems like
Speaker 1: he gets old, And I think that's why we all
Speaker 1: took guys that are us nding, Like I could see
Speaker 1: Kincaid going for eleven hundred yards and being there at
Speaker 1: number one receiver.
Speaker 4: You can if you look at the Chiefs last four
Speaker 4: seasons and add up their playoff games, like eventually if
Speaker 4: they have another, there's an extra season.
Speaker 3: They don't care about regular season, especially like September October.
Speaker 3: He looked like Chilvis Kelsey in the playoffs. Again.
Speaker 1: Though, Okay, I'm just gonna stick with my board stick
Speaker 1: and pick like Joe Shane likes to do. Somehow decided
Speaker 1: that where anything happened, I don't know, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: James Cook. We got three we got three bills on
Speaker 1: this team. That's Derrick Henry is another option. But I'm
Speaker 1: assuming we're going PPR here, and yeah, I think I
Speaker 1: think between the receiving man, I'm already rethinking et And
Speaker 1: is so solid, and yet he doesn't get me going.
Speaker 1: Can I change my pick? Sure, I've changed. I've changed
Speaker 1: in midstream. That's too many bills. I'm going Travis Etn.
Speaker 1: There's like no argument against Travis Etn going this high.
Speaker 6: He should go in this draft. You should because he hasn't.
Speaker 6: He has very little competition in that backfield too. I mean,
Speaker 6: they keep trying to make Tank bigsby a thing, but
Speaker 6: I don't think you know, we can't make fetch happen.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna work.
Speaker 4: Press Taylor did say like the Tank had a horrible start,
Speaker 4: like as bad as a start as he could possibly be,
Speaker 4: putting the ball on the ground, not having production. But
Speaker 4: they they they're still he's still there's still gonna be
Speaker 4: part of the offense. But he also said he would
Speaker 4: never put a ceiling on Travessey. Team is gonna.
Speaker 1: Get I mean, he's among the only leaders in touches
Speaker 1: since he entered the league.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I feel good.
Speaker 3: My team's done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm about to get that graphic ready, Eric, We're
Speaker 1: gonna look at all these teams once we're done.
Speaker 2: This is our final round, Florio, who you taking?
Speaker 3: I need a quarterback and I'm very tempted to take
Speaker 3: Kyler to just have the all Cardinals stack. But I'm
Speaker 3: gonna take a guy that I truly think only Josh
Speaker 3: Allen and maybe Jalen Hurts rivaling upside. I will take
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson there, Okay, oh all right, spicy.
Speaker 2: David Richardson for the last round. Yeah, I guess only
Speaker 2: four quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: I'm very interested to see who doesn't get drafted at quarterback.
Speaker 1: He's he's the upside play. He's also maybe be the
Speaker 1: best ball play too.
Speaker 3: Like I if he is if he stays healthy, I
Speaker 3: truly think it's it's Allen and Hurts are the only
Speaker 3: ones that match his upside because he can give you
Speaker 3: the double digit rushing touchdowns but also run for a
Speaker 3: thousand yards, which hurts an All I mean Lamar, but
Speaker 3: Lamar doesn't get the rushing touchdown, okay.
Speaker 4: In an in an offense that held Gardner Minshew above
Speaker 4: the water for a significant amount of time and eventually.
Speaker 3: And got better pass catchers now too.
Speaker 1: The coach just the Stike in effect seems real when
Speaker 1: you look at what's happened with the Chargers and then
Speaker 1: the Eagles and then the Colts the last we believe
Speaker 1: seven years. Yep, all right, so I need a quarterback here.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna I'm gonna make Patrick angry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm taking that's gonna be so happy.
Speaker 6: I thought about it, like, there's nobody else that I
Speaker 6: really super like in a four team draft like that,
Speaker 6: I really super love. Like if I want to be
Speaker 6: really spicy, I could have been like, oh, Straud and
Speaker 6: not spicy, like ID with you really spicy?
Speaker 3: I've been like Jayden Daniels. Oh, I would have been spicy.
Speaker 6: I'd have been crazy spicy, like you want to fourteen Alas,
Speaker 6: go spicy? Huh spicy, Let's go jadon Dane, whoa mostly
Speaker 6: mostly only only basically just Lamar is a better pick.
Speaker 1: It is, but this most objectively, he's a better hectvely.
Speaker 6: This is mostly to make a point though, because if
Speaker 6: we're talking rookie rookie quarterbacks right in a one year situation,
Speaker 6: I'm taking Jade and Daniels over Caleb Williams. If we're
Speaker 6: talking dynasty. Kay Club is the guy. So this is
Speaker 6: so consider this like a protest pick, a point baker
Speaker 6: flag planting pick.
Speaker 3: So like, if you guys are what about.
Speaker 1: In a four team draft where the listeners vote on
Speaker 1: who has the best team though, and I probably would
Speaker 1: have stayed with Lamar Jackson. Yeah, I mean I think
Speaker 1: you guys are crazy. I mean he Hurts and Josh
Speaker 1: Allen are you know or one and two.
Speaker 3: And goat right now is not going to get drafted
Speaker 3: our current.
Speaker 1: Go Well, we don't know that the very last pick
Speaker 1: of the draft, he has a quarterback available.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if Marcus had this is stuck with his pick,
Speaker 4: then I would be drafted by Patrick Mahomes of the
Speaker 4: Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 3: I will not be I'll be drafting Lamar to Beatrice Jackson.
Speaker 3: It bothers me. Jalen Hurts wasn't picked in this draft,
Speaker 3: but I get it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, four quarterback, I's gonna lookt my like, what are
Speaker 6: you doing with Jayden?
Speaker 1: Well, just like that is a truck on the goal line.
Speaker 1: Like people are overly worried that the tuch push isn't
Speaker 1: going to exist. Doesn't matter, He's still going to be
Speaker 1: one of the best goal line, your running backs in the.
Speaker 5: League or quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the offense is going to be better, especially
Speaker 4: than it was towards the finish of the season. And
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm ultimately banking this Lamar pick that there
Speaker 4: will be an overall offensive improvement with Derek and not
Speaker 4: just that Derek's taking rushing touches, because again, like Lamar
Speaker 4: wasn't running the ball in the end zone a whole
Speaker 4: lot anyway, So I'm completely with it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, and yeah, the least surprising development of the day.
Speaker 1: Patrick ended up with what we love about Patrick, He's consistent.
Speaker 2: Let's look at our final teams.
Speaker 1: Eric Roberts, who's back from paternity leave, is working hard
Speaker 1: on these graphics. We're looking at Team Rosenthal and and
Speaker 1: again yes, go go on our YouTube page subscribe, like
Speaker 1: you can see my team Josh Allen, saquon etn Jefferson, Brown,
Speaker 1: Pukinakua and Kincaid.
Speaker 3: I like that. It's a frisky team. My rule of
Speaker 3: thumb is always like target good offenses. And you did
Speaker 3: exactly that.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, oh, okay, actual teams. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: hope you're trying to fantasy football. Florio has got Richardson,
Speaker 1: Breist Hall, Pacheco, Ceedee, lamb Amon Ra Harrison and McBride.
Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of projection from the spicy taking.
Speaker 3: That's what I say. What's projection there? Besides besides just the.
Speaker 2: Last two guys, the cardinal, that's it. Let's look at
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 6: Marcus thangs with an asterisk because I'm just taking a
Speaker 6: point here.
Speaker 2: But the rest of it, I love the rest of it.
Speaker 2: I love that's a strong team.
Speaker 1: McCaffrey, Taylor, Chase Roston, Drake, London Laporta. But you know,
Speaker 1: to be real, this is a four team draft. Your
Speaker 1: team better be strong you're starting, or else you're doing
Speaker 1: something wrong. Finally, Patrick clay On, the host of Fantasy Live,
Speaker 1: Lamar Jon, Jamir Gibbs, Tyreek Hill, Cooper Cup Devontine.
Speaker 6: Got a real he's got he's got some youth a
Speaker 6: running back, but he veteran presence in the wide receis.
Speaker 5: These guys have run some routes they've seen.
Speaker 1: I love my team, but if I could choose another team,
Speaker 1: this would be the team.
Speaker 2: So sorry to these men over here.
Speaker 3: That's all right now.
Speaker 4: I clearly like explosive running backs and guys who you
Speaker 4: know are taking taking supplements you.
Speaker 3: Know in a real life game. If these teams were
Speaker 3: to play, Patrick Seams wins.
Speaker 1: That does feel like it. Thank you guys for joining.
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