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Speaker 1: Well, well, well it's playoff time, baby. We got the matchups.

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Speaker 1: We're recording this before the playing games, so we don't

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Speaker 1: know all the matchups. We do know generally where things

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Speaker 1: are gonna fall. Uh, we're gonna talk about that. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about the NBA's top ten plays the Week

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Speaker 1: with journalist and radio host Justin Spears on today's episode.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jack O'Brien.

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Speaker 2: And I'm Jabarian from MYUS, and.

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Speaker 1: This is Moles and Jack and Jack. We all got

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Speaker 1: mad boosts. Yes, dog, sorry, got it? I looka donic kids.

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Speaker 3: Ta okay, mb drive me Spinny fatter number eighteen.

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Speaker 1: That's Drid sic Jord.

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Speaker 3: The Celtics are NBA champions over the double team.

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Speaker 4: Be honest, where's.

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Speaker 1: Justin? Welcome to the show man. Let's roll, baby, let's roll.

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Speaker 1: You are a Tucson in Yes, you got here from Tucson.

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Speaker 1: I have my note for Tucson Tusonian. Tusonian.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It don't sound right, Jack, it sounds it's cleaner, even

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Speaker 1: though it's adding syllables. It's cleaner. I'm going I'm going

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Speaker 1: Timberlake on you make it the very Facebook. It's cleaner anyways,

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Speaker 1: you are from Tucson. You are a Lakers fan based

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Speaker 1: on your T shirt?

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Speaker 5: Yes, sir, the Los Angeles Lakers, the Los Angeles Lakers.

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Speaker 5: I'm a diehard Lakers fan. So kind of quick background here.

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Speaker 5: My family's originally from Hunting to Beach, California, so I

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Speaker 5: come from Orange County. Those are my connections. So I'm

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Speaker 5: an LA sports fan. But we moved to Tucson when

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Speaker 5: I was two years old, so I claimed Tucson. I

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Speaker 5: am a Tucsonan or Tusoni and if you're Jack, and

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Speaker 5: I love this city. But yes, I am a diehard

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Speaker 1: Well, Orange County Onion originally, but yes, all right, Well

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get into a bit of a playoff postseason preview.

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Speaker 1: But first we got a little we got a little

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Speaker 1: business to take care of because there have been some

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Speaker 1: upsets a little closer to your current home. The Suns

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Speaker 1: have fired coach Bud former Hawks coach, former Bucks coach

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Speaker 1: Suns ended up ten games under five hundred. I just

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Speaker 1: last year after finishing sixteen games over five hundred. So

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Speaker 1: that's where the expectations were heading into this season, was

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Speaker 1: that sixteen games over five hundred is unacceptably bad. They

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Speaker 1: So not a great year for the Suns. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't think they were alone necessarily in coming in

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be good. They've got Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 1: You heard about this guy, Devin Booker, and they were not.

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Speaker 1: They were They're pretty midland. What are you guys thoughts?

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Speaker 5: So, I think the Phoenix Suns experiment under matt Ishbio

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Speaker 5: has been a complete failure. No, I will give him

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Speaker 5: He was a man that did not swing for the fences,

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Speaker 5: a man that did not bring these bigger names to Phoenix.

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Speaker 5: Did they have some success with Sarver, Sure, but this guy,

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Speaker 5: Matt Ishbia comes in and I think, what less than

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Speaker 5: Let's see if they can make magic happen. And then

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Speaker 5: can get Kevin Durant, let me get Bradley Beal and

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Speaker 5: a no trade clause. It's a big gamble. I don't care.

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Speaker 5: He's still Bradley Beal. He's still a bucket. And they

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Speaker 5: sold their soul to the devil because they wanted to

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Speaker 5: win an NBA Championship, and unfortunately for Phoenix, they gave

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Speaker 5: up way too much of their future. Right, they got

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Speaker 5: when they don't work out, when they have a no

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Speaker 5: And you know, they tried to make that trade for

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Speaker 5: Jimmy Butler, and I remember a lot of people were like,

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Speaker 5: They're enjoying Jimmy Butler right now. So it's just been

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Speaker 5: a colossal disappointment in Phoenix. I feel bad for Devin

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Speaker 5: But he definitely deserves better. And I'm not really sure

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Speaker 5: and I know the head coach is usually the scapegoat here,

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Speaker 5: But with that being said, the culture was also really

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Speaker 5: And it's so crazy to think that this is also

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Speaker 5: the same team that started off the year eight and one.

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Speaker 4: I think they're like.

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Speaker 5: One of three teams, They're one of three teams in

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Speaker 5: and I'll just wrap it up here, is it's not

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Speaker 5: at an all star level and still showed that he's

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Speaker 5: still one of the premier players in this league. It's

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Speaker 5: just the Phoenix Suns right now. They need to hit

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Speaker 5: the reset button. They need to blow this whole thing up.

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Speaker 5: And that could also meet trading Devin Booker away.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't selling your soul to the devil. Usually like get

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Speaker 4: Yeah, usually get a championship.

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Speaker 5: Like for instance, I'm a big football guy, right, like

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Speaker 5: I look at what the La Rams did, the Kroankey family,

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Speaker 4: They got a Super Bowl out of the deal. They're

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Speaker 5: Teams do that to sacrifice for that one championship in Phoenix,

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Speaker 5: being a desperate franchise that they are, team that's just

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Speaker 5: I'm a mover and shaker. I'm going to come in

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Speaker 3: It definitely felt like a kid with a credit card situation,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, where you get your first

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, I've got a month, and

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Speaker 3: And I'm not going to call it a purchase, you know,

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Speaker 3: quickly before you get off of this jack, I'm interested

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Speaker 3: in justin you said it might end up in them

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Speaker 3: trading Devin Booker, what's your gut tell you, given you

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Speaker 3: know you're here in the state, you're you're talking to

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Speaker 5: Well, the Phoenix Suns right now, I feel like are

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Speaker 5: because what's Kevin Durant going to do well?

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Speaker 4: First and foremost, what are they going to do as

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Speaker 5: I feel like this hire could be very important for

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Speaker 5: Dare I say Oklahoma City?

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Speaker 4: I would?

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Speaker 5: I love the idea with all the picks that they have,

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Speaker 5: like the Phoenix Suns saying, you know what, let's hit

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Speaker 5: the reset button, Let's get some picks back, Let's get

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Speaker 5: a bright future. And Kevin Durant doesn't really have a

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Speaker 5: home right when you think about his his NBA tenure, Like,

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Speaker 5: which team could really grab on to Kevin Durant. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: he won two championships, but he also joined the dynasty

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Speaker 5: that was already there with the Splash Brothers and Draymond Green.

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Speaker 4: So I think it'd be cool to see Kevin.

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Speaker 5: And you know, Devin Booker could also get into a

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Speaker 4: I don't want to go through this again.

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Speaker 5: Get me to another situation to where I could be

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Speaker 5: Devin Booker and we could be contending for championships. So

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Speaker 5: I feel like this is probably going to be a

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Speaker 4: We'll see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a bum. I mean, Dallas kind

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Speaker 1: of makes sense to me they need to do something.

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Speaker 1: And then as far as Oka see and I've also

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Speaker 1: heard Houston tossed around as potential KD destinations, I think,

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Speaker 5: Can I ask you guys this though, What do you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you guys make of that?

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Speaker 5: Because you know, I do think that Kevin Durant is

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Speaker 5: an incredible player, but also at the same time, you know,

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Speaker 5: there is that narrative that he's kind of chasing off coaches.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. It feels like he

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Speaker 1: these situations that are I feel like an older model

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Speaker 1: that more than anything heavy to do with the coaches,

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Speaker 1: although like I just don't know enough to know, like

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Speaker 1: up to it, and so it's really strange. So here's

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Speaker 1: what we know. We don't know the playans. We know,

434
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Speaker 1: okay season the one seed, and we're feeling pretty good

435
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Speaker 1: about them against any eight seed. The Rockets are number two.

436
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:27,120
Speaker 1: They are being People are expecting Golden State to win

437
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 1: their playing game, and I think people are kind of

438
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Speaker 1: penciling in Golden State to beat Houston or that's kind

439
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 1: of the energy that I'm picking up. That is just

440
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 1: a bad matchup, and the main thing people are pointing to,

441
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Speaker 1: I think is just Houston's inexperienced in the postseason. I

442
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Speaker 1: feel like, I don't know, the past few postseasons, there's

443
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Speaker 1: been a couple teams who we discounted because for that

444
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Speaker 1: reason because they lacked experience, like Minnesota last year, I

445
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: think Men the year before. I still do think Golden

446
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: State probably beats them in a series if the Warriors

447
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: win in the play in, but I think it's because

448
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 1: like both Memphis and Minnesota in those series had somebody

449
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: who could get a bucket at the end of the game,

450
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Speaker 1: which you need, and I feel like Houston doesn't have that,

451
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Speaker 1: so that that would probably be the reason that I

452
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Speaker 1: don't see them having a lot of success in the

453
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Speaker 1: postseason at this stage. But I also wouldn't be shocked

454
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Speaker 1: if they just like, you know, one by ten, like

455
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: four times against Golden State, not like a sweep, but

456
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Speaker 1: you know, if you just win by enough and play

457
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: crazy enough defense like they've been known to do, then

458
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you can't get a bucket at

459
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Speaker 1: the in the last second. But what are you guys

460
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Speaker 1: thoughts on Houston's postseason prospects?

461
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Speaker 5: Man very young, and like you said, they're inexperienced. They

462
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Speaker 5: don't have the playoff experience, but they do have a

463
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Speaker 5: really good coach that's also been at this level two

464
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Speaker 5: in Emo Doka. So I think Emo Dooka in his

465
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 5: second act in the NBA after that whole mess with Boston,

466
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Speaker 5: it's been it's been really fun to watch.

467
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 4: I really like this Houston Rockets.

468
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Speaker 5: I like the young talent they have, but they kind

469
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Speaker 5: of give me the Oklahoma City vibes from two thousand

470
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,719
Speaker 5: and seven, two thousand and eight, where it's like, they

471
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Speaker 5: got the talent, they have a good coach, but maybe

472
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Speaker 5: just give them another year to let them add some

473
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Speaker 5: more pieces and then they'll be in this position.

474
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Speaker 4: I think they've drafted well.

475
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Speaker 5: I give their front office a ton of credit with

476
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Speaker 5: the young players that they've added. But now you're going

477
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Speaker 5: up against a franchise that has the same coach, the

478
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Speaker 5: same star player, and his and his kind of right

479
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 5: hand buddy outside of Clay Thompson and Draymond Green, and

480
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 5: then you add in the ultimate competitor that is Jimmy Butler.

481
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 5: And Jimmy Butler at the trade deadline, he was kind

482
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 5: of viewed as a toxic character, right, like, who, who are?

483
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 5: What team is going to add a player like Jimmy

484
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 5: Butler for how he treated Miami in the ending stages

485
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 5: of his career there and then you got to give

486
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Speaker 5: him that crazy contract. Well, ever since the Golden State

487
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 5: Warriors have added Jimmy Butler, I've had one of the

488
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 5: better records in the NBA and we are talking about

489
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Speaker 5: them at Jabari. We talked about how the Lakers are

490
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 5: so damn lucky. I mean, the Lakers are like one

491
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Speaker 5: basket away from playing against the Golden State Warriors in

492
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Speaker 5: this three to six matchup. So I'm counting my Lucky

493
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Speaker 5: Stars as a Lakers guy that they don't got to

494
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 5: play Golden State in that first round. This is a

495
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Speaker 5: team that is a dynasty, that's probably on the tail

496
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 5: end of their run, but they've got the championship pedigree,

497
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Speaker 5: and that's why I'm probably gonna go with the Golden

498
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Speaker 5: State in six.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, just to echo this, and I mentioned this

500
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Speaker 3: to Jack before the show, Golden State's one team I

501
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 3: actually didn't want to face, especially in a first round,

502
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 3: you know matchup. I don't want to see a fresh Steff,

503
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 3: a fresh and hungry Jimmy and all of those guys

504
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 3: executing like crazy in a first round, first round matchup.

505
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Speaker 3: I think Houston can make it interesting, but it's tough

506
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 3: and it sucks because Houston fought, you know, fought all year.

507
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 3: They earned that, you know that, you know, that second seed,

508
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 3: and you know, for their troubles, it could very well

509
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Speaker 3: wind up being, you know, a little bit of a

510
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 3: first round buzz saw.

511
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see, but you know, who knows if Golden State.

512
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: Golden State has been able to lose the inexplicable games

513
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 1: that they should have wanted to win.

514
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 3: You know, if Harrison, if Harrison Barnes doesn't hit that

515
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 3: game winner with a depleted Spurgers team down the stretch

516
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 3: of the season, you know, it's a different conversation.

517
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: All right, Lakers, Wolves, you guys, I'm pretty sure I

518
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: know who you're taking. So Minnesota makes it through to

519
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: the second round and then Clippers Nuggets. Clippers are the

520
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: hottest team in the NBA right now. They're fifteen and

521
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: two to finish the season. Something I always talk about

522
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: is like two years ago, you know, Kawhi for one

523
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 1: playoff game, the best player in the NBA, and then

524
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 1: he got hurt. And for the past two years, everybody,

525
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: everybody's just been like, yeah, Chhile'll never not be hurt.

526
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: And that's been true for the past couple of years.

527
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:16,239
Speaker 1: But he's looking strong. Harden is looking good. I don't know,

528
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: I could see the Clippers making making some noise and

529
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: upsetting some Lakers fans along the way. Well we'll see.

530
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Speaker 1: But what are you guys' thoughts on the Nuggets Clippers.

531
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Speaker 5: I do want to give credit where credit is due.

532
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 5: James Harden has played seventy nine games this season, right

533
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 5: like James Harden was a guy that wasn't playing nearly

534
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 5: that many games, and he's he's been around and he's

535
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 5: been effective as not only a score averaging just under

536
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 5: twenty three points per game, but I think he's averaging

537
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 5: like nearly nine a sis per game two. So James Harden,

538
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 5: like you said, Jackie, he's playing some really good basketball

539
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 5: right now. I just feel bad for our guy, Lakers legend,

540
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 5: even because Zubats, because he's got to go up against

541
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Speaker 5: that best of luck brother.

542
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 4: I think that the Denver Nuggets. I think Clippers don't

543
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 4: make it interesting.

544
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 5: They might win a game or two, but I think

545
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 5: the the Nuggets will figure it out.

546
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: Been so good.

547
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: So you're saying Nuggets in five or six.

548
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 4: I'll say Nuggets in about five or six.

549
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I thought I was gonna be the I

550
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 3: thought I was gonna be the only one because as

551
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: as well as the Clippers have played, and I'm not

552
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 3: gonna take anything away from them, not even gonna do

553
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 3: the little brother thing. They have played well, and to

554
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 3: be honest with you, I don't want to face him

555
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 3: in the first round either. I still think they don't

556
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 3: have any answer whatsoever for you and as well as

557
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 3: as Zubac has been playing, and he has been playing well,

558
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 3: I think over the course of the series, you know, yeah,

559
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 3: that damn Terminator is gonna wear him down.

560
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: Okay, the Turk because I have heard Kawhi described as

561
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: a terminator too. Terminator was Terminator versus Terminators Terminator to

562
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: Judgment Day, and that's one of the best movies of

563
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: all time. So I think either way, all we're talking

564
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: about is there's gonna be a great season here, all right.

565
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Speaker 1: Any team in the West that you guys think is

566
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: going to make a deeper run than people are expecting.

567
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 5: Oh man, deeper run than people are expecting. I mean,

568
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Speaker 5: I would say the Lakers, but I feel like the

569
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Speaker 5: Lakers are expected to represent the West in the NBA Finals.

570
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 5: I think that this is the year of the Lakers.

571
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 5: And I know I'm biased, but I look at the

572
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 5: the addition of Luca, I look at how that's matched

573
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Speaker 5: up with Lebron. I did have some concerns with the

574
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 5: front court, with guys like like Jackson Hayes and others,

575
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Speaker 5: and that could be a concern later on in the postseason,

576
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 5: but they've actually performed better than I thought. I'm curious

577
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 5: to see how ruy Achimora plays in this postseason with

578
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 5: the front court matchups they got. But yeah, yeah, I'll

579
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Speaker 5: probably say the the Lakers, and probably the Nuggets. Just

580
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 5: I mean, they're the number four seed, They've won a

581
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 5: championship before in a seven game series. It's tough to

582
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Speaker 5: bet against Yokid. So I'd say probably the West. I

583
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 5: go with with Denver or the Lakers.

584
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Speaker 2: Dang, all right, just piggyback.

585
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 3: You know where I stand on the Lakers. I think

586
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 3: that they can and probably will make a deep run.

587
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 3: But if they don't, the wild my wildcard for this

588
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 3: postseason is still going to be the Golden State Warriors.

589
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 3: I think if the Warriors, you know, you get that

590
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 3: seven and they beat Houston, guess I recognize where that

591
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 3: would line them up next. I think a hot Warriors

592
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 3: team is the team that I just would personally like

593
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 3: to avoid.

594
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense, And out Yeast is basically I mean,

595
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: so on this podcast, we support the League versus Celtics

596
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: is kind of how I think about it. But I

597
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: do think it's probably gonna be the Celtics again coming

598
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: out of the East. Well, what do we think anybody

599
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: able to make me feel better and say that there's

600
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Speaker 1: another team that has a good shot. I mean, I

601
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: guess the Cavs would be the obvious one. Sixty four

602
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: and eighteen, you know, best offensive rating in the in

603
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: the league this year. But do you guys think they

604
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: have legit shot at beating the Celtics. I think they do.

605
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 4: Now.

606
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 5: I do think that, you know, we're talking about conspiracy

607
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 5: theories earlier. I think that this crazy Luca trade is

608
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 5: just pairing up Lakers versus Celtics, the old classic rivalry

609
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 5: in the in the NBA Championship. But I think, honestly,

610
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 5: outside of Boston, the one team that I think could

611
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 5: really go far and maybe even get to the NBA

612
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 5: Finals the Milwaukee Bucks at the number five spot. Now,

613
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 5: I know Dame dealing with with his whole thing, like

614
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 5: that's that's a tremendous loss, right that, Like, that's that's.

615
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 4: A big time there.

616
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Speaker 5: But you still got Giannis as one of the top

617
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 5: big men in basketball right now. I still think that

618
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 5: the Bucks they have that that championship pedigree. I still

619
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 5: think they can't go far. I'm curious to see how

620
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 5: that matchup's gonna go with Indiana and a team that

621
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Speaker 5: I don't think is going to say go far, like

622
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 5: go to the NBA Finals, but I could see them

623
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 5: winning a playoff series. About those Detroit Pistons turn things around. Man,

624
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 5: They're playing against the Knicks, and you know, Tom Thibodeau is,

625
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 5: you know, solid coach. I love the Knicks and the

626
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 5: pieces that they have, But the Detroit Pistons have been

627
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 5: one of my favorite stories in the NBA this season.

628
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 5: This was a team that was riding one of the worst,

629
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 5: if not the worst, losing streaks and NBA history. Like

630
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 5: they were telling fans, hey, if the Pistons win, we're

631
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 5: giving you free food, and then they proceeded to drop

632
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 5: twenty eight straight games like that is the ultimate tease.

633
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 5: But hey, great marketing for whatever food the company that was.

634
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 5: But the Pistons, they're turnaround. Cade Cunningham, I like this

635
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 5: team a lot, and I think, honestly, this is kind

636
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 5: of like a just the beginning stages for them. I

637
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 5: think over the next couple of years they're going to

638
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 5: add some pieces and we're going to see the Pistons

639
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 5: back to being a force in the East.

640
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Speaker 3: I'm right there with you with Detroit. I think they're

641
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 3: going to be solid. I don't necessarily know that it's

642
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 3: going to happen this year, but you know, to your point,

643
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: shout out to Cad, Shout out to Jamie Bickerstaff, former

644
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 3: Coach of the Year. You know, he goes there and

645
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 3: absolutely turns things around, and then you know, very first year, Jentle.

646
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: Have been back. Look for him if he hadn't. You know,

647
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Speaker 1: the Calves had a huge turnaround after he left there,

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Speaker 1: but then he turned it around, So you know, it's

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Speaker 1: I guess it's a statement about who was coaching Detroit

650
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Speaker 1: last year.

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Speaker 3: So shout out to MONI, shout out legend at the

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Speaker 3: Bank Jack to ask your question just directly. The team

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Speaker 3: that I hope comes out is the Calves. The team

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Speaker 3: I think is going to come out is the Celtics.

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Speaker 3: The team I really want to come out deep down

656
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 3: inside is exactly where where Justin just went.

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Speaker 2: I want the Bucks. I want.

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Speaker 3: You know, Giannis over the last fifteen to twenty games

659
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Speaker 3: has been absolutely incredible. I don't know if if you

660
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 3: guys had a chance to watch a lot of Bucks,

661
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 3: you know action I did. He is truly an offensive

662
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 3: hub in a way that we haven't seen him before.

663
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 3: Double digit assists if I'm not mistaken, almost averaging that

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Speaker 3: over the last like fifteen or so games, and the

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Speaker 3: word on the street is today they may actually be

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Speaker 3: back during this series.

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Speaker 2: So while I.

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Speaker 3: Don't, I don't want them to like just like throw

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Speaker 3: everything on him when he gets back. Look if they

670
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 3: could find a way to get through this first round

671
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 3: matchup and Dame gets going and Giannis is still playing

672
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Speaker 3: the way that he's you know, dominant on both sides

673
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 3: of the ball, even though Doc Rivers is their coach,

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Speaker 3: I think it's a possibility.

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Speaker 1: Even though do we think we're past the era of

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Speaker 1: best player? Whoever has the best player, you're gonna just

677
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: inherently you should put your money on that team because

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Speaker 1: that that feels like where we're going in a lot

679
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Speaker 1: of these But it also feels like that hasn't always

680
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Speaker 1: been the case in the past few years. Do you

681
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Speaker 1: think that things have changed or you still think that's

682
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: a good rule of thumb for the postseason?

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Speaker 5: I think that things have changed, Like I'm not gonna

684
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 5: bet against Lebron James in a seven game series, right

685
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Speaker 5: or some of these other elite players like Nikola Jokic

686
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Speaker 5: or some of the best but You know, if if

687
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 5: you look at the past chanceapions, it kind of reminds

688
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 5: me a little bit of the college basketball model. Right

689
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 5: Like when John Calipari at Kentucky, he tried to load

690
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 5: his team with all of these one and dons, and

691
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 5: he thought that that was the formula to win in

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00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 5: a championship. Meanwhile, you had Villanova all these other teams

693
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Speaker 5: that prioritized veteran players and mature players and experienced guys

694
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Speaker 5: that you could rely on in the tournament. And they

695
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 5: were players that were with programs for several years. They

696
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 5: built up that championship culture brick by brick. You look

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Speaker 5: at the Boston Celtics. I mean, how many times have

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Speaker 5: they been deep into the playoffs. Heck, they were in

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Speaker 5: the NBA Finals and lost to the Golden State Warriors.

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Speaker 5: But they didn't going back to our point year with

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Speaker 5: the selling are sold to the Devil, they didn't trade

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00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 5: away all of those pieces. They continue to develop them

703
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 5: and got them better, and eventually they were able to

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Speaker 5: break through and win an NBA championship. The Golden State

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00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 5: Warriors in their dynasty, yeah, they added Kevin Durant during

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Speaker 5: those couple of years, but for the most are all

707
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 5: of those guys on that team. We're all homegrown players,

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00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 5: guys that were drafted and selected by the Golden State Warriors.

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Speaker 4: So I think there's something.

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Speaker 5: To be said about having a culture and developing a

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Speaker 5: championship team over time, and I feel like you're starting

712
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 5: to see that with teams like Oklahoma City and Houston

713
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 5: and some of these others in the NBA. So it

714
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Speaker 5: definitely helps having a premier superstar player on your team,

715
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Speaker 5: a guy that is one of the faces of the league.

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Speaker 5: But I think having that depth and having a good roster,

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00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 5: you know, having a good rotation, I think that's definitely valuable,

718
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Speaker 5: and we've seen in recent years that that matters.

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Speaker 3: And just to add to that, I think it I

720
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Speaker 3: think it's specifically the way the game is played now.

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00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 2: You know, more more motion, more.

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Speaker 3: Ball movement, more body movement, less one on one isolation,

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Speaker 3: less like of just like either one on one isolation

724
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 3: or like two man action. You know, more complex, you know,

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00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 3: more complex schemes, and all of a sudden, While yes,

726
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 3: you still want to have the best player in the series,

727
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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's as much of an impact,

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Speaker 3: especially if it's relatively close around you know, around those

729
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 3: play around that player.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's uh, let's take a quick break. Well,

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Speaker 1: come back and we will do the rapid fire round

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Speaker 1: of questioning, the fastest, nastiest segment in basketball podcasting, and

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Speaker 1: we'll be right back and we're back in. Justin, justin, Justin,

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Speaker 1: I don't know you have all right? Should we just

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Speaker 1: scrap this part? Actually? I there's no way, no way

736
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Speaker 1: this guy's ready uh for for this. Uh. This is

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00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: the rapid fire round of questioning. Uh, you've just wandered

738
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: into the shooting gallery. Uh. There there's gonna be bullets

739
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: pinging around, whizzing past your ear and do it.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: So you're gonna want to get in an athletic position

742
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: and and just be ready. We're gonna be firing some

743
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: questions at you, uh, and you're just gonna fire them back.

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00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna keep this ball moving. We're gonna keep the

745
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: ball fizzing around the perimeter. Do you think you're ready?

746
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Speaker 4: Let's do it.

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00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 3: I'll just just note if you delay or allow one

748
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 3: of us to delay in between, we will be rude

749
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 3: to you. We will because you are getting an EP

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Speaker 3: credit on this particular episode.

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00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 2: So get this together.

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00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 4: All right, let me lock in you ready, Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Brian, start the clock. My kids are in the next

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00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: room and they think I'm verbally abusing somebody. All right, Uh, Jabari,

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00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: why don't.

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Speaker 4: You kick us off?

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00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: All right?

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00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 3: More dominant player Jokic back in Shacks era or Shack

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Speaker 3: in this current era.

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00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 5: Yokic back in shacks era. Oh, Yokic's game is transcendent.

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Speaker 5: It could be in any era at any time. Give

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00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 5: me Yokic.

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Speaker 1: All right. We have a new king of top selling

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Speaker 1: NBA jerseys. I want you to guess who it is.

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Speaker 1: But Yama incorrect, sir, top five, although he's so he's

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Speaker 1: at he's at number six, And that did make me want, like,

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Speaker 1: you don't see a lot of Webb Yama jerseys in

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Speaker 1: the wild. Yeah, a long name, and you need to like,

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Speaker 1: I feel like it only makes sense on a skinny,

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Speaker 1: like tall person, you know, like it like I feel

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Speaker 1: like it works better? Yeah, yeah, yeah for the full name.

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Speaker 1: This one changed mid season. I'll say justin new leader

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Speaker 1: mid season, new.

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Speaker 4: Leader mid season.

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Speaker 1: Let's go with Luca, you got it? And any of

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Speaker 1: these So Luca number one, Steph number two, Lebron number three,

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Speaker 1: Jason Tate the number four. That one surprised me a

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Speaker 1: little bit. I don't see a lot of Jason Taylor.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's just maybe it's just because when you moved

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00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: to Boston, they just give you one of those just yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's like at the airport in Hawaii. Yeah, yeah, you

782
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 2: get at the airport there, you just get a Tatum Jersey.

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Speaker 2: Hey put this on.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson number five, WEMBM six, Anthony Edwards seven, Jaw

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Speaker 1: number eight, Shade number nine, Yokic ten, Yannis eleven, LaMelo

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Speaker 1: Ball at number twelve, then KD. Booker thirteen, fourteen, then

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Speaker 1: Jalen Brown at fifteen, and any that jump out to you,

788
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Speaker 1: guys's surprising any that you thought would be there that aren't.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, well you brought up LaMelo Ball.

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Speaker 5: And the first thing I thought of was so last

791
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Speaker 5: summer I was at a basketball camp for kids, and

792
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 5: I asked all the kids there, like, all right, guys,

793
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Speaker 5: So when I say, mellow, who do you guys think

794
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 5: I'm talking about? Every single one of them said LaMelo Ball.

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Speaker 5: And it made me feel so old because I'm like,

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Speaker 5: Carmel Anthony is.

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00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: Not old, right, and he is.

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Speaker 4: The real mellow. He is the real mellow.

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Speaker 5: As far as you didn't mention Kawhi Leonard, did you? No,

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Speaker 5: Kawhi is not interesting because I feel like that would

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00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 5: be up there, like he's still a big time player, right,

802
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 5: but maybe he's so boring that nobody wants to buy

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00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 5: his jersey or it's James Harden or Kyrie Irving.

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Speaker 1: I think it's team dependent, Like I bet Kawhi was

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00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: there when he was with the Raptors, but like now,

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Speaker 1: I just feel like not a lot of not a

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00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:43,280
Speaker 1: lot of Clippers jerseys out there, even in the Greater

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles area.

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Speaker 3: It's because the thirty thousand Clippers fans have already bought

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00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 3: one prior to now, so then stets.

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Speaker 1: Right, it's also another one.

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Speaker 5: I'm surprised because US Lakers fans, we love this guy,

813
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 5: Austin Reeves.

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Speaker 1: You thought you thought he'd crack the top fifteen.

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Speaker 4: I thought like he'd be.

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Speaker 5: One of those sneaky guys that just got up there

817
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 5: because he's a fan favorite.

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Speaker 3: Let them make a deep run with him playing well

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00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 3: this year, I bet you he'll jump in that time,

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00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 3: like somewhere in that range of fifteen to twenty. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: all right, keeping to going really quickly, Lakers trivia for

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Speaker 3: you all time franchise leader in rebounds?

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Speaker 2: Who do you think is that leader?

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Speaker 5: For the last oh man, it's it's probably somebody obscire

825
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 5: like George Miken.

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Speaker 2: It is not. It is not. I chose this for

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Speaker 2: a specific reason.

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Speaker 4: Will Chamberlain.

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Speaker 2: He is number five because this is Lakers.

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Speaker 1: That they got. This is rebounds they got while playing

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Speaker 1: for the Wall playing Withers.

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Speaker 5: Okay, is it not Pau Gasol, No, it's not Shaquille O'Neill.

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Speaker 2: It is not. He is number six.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Not Kareem's number two?

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Speaker 5: Two?

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Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, lamar odom is it?

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00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, I got you.

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Speaker 3: It is Elgin Baylor, Elger Baylor eleven, four hundred and six.

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Speaker 1: For him to do that as a guard, Yeah, that's wow.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, yeah, there's a lot of guards on

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00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: like Kobe is number three. But it's just I think

843
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: it's partially a testament to like who played the most

844
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Speaker 1: games as a Laker? But magic number four.

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Speaker 4: A c.

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Speaker 1: Green. Speaking of who played the most games shot out,

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Speaker 1: I was my guest was gonna be Vern Mickelson, who

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Speaker 1: comes in at number seven.

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Speaker 2: But that was right on the tip of my toes,

850
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Speaker 2: right off, a little.

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Speaker 1: Bit off, all right. And finally you have the ability

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00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: to pick any former Lakers legend to make a run

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00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 1: with this current squad.

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Speaker 4: Who are you taking Kobe Bryant Man?

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Speaker 2: Come on now, not gonna take a center? Like it

856
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 2: doesn't matter that we don't have any any bigs. I

857
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 2: get it, I get it, But I had to throw

858
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 2: that out there. It's like, yeah, we need a big.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you do need a big I do worry about

860
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 5: the hack of shack later on in games. So in

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Speaker 5: Shack honestly, uh yeah, Like I said, he's dominant, but

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00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 5: the free throws is what concerns me. Yeah, Mann, I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna go with with Kobe Bryant Man because even in

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Speaker 5: games where he's not scoring, he still figures out ways

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Speaker 5: to to make when he plays and when you need

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Speaker 5: a bucket and clutch time, it's always gonna be Kobe Bryant.

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Speaker 4: So I'm biased.

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Speaker 1: Actually you know what.

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Speaker 4: That's True's go that's not true.

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Speaker 5: But also Kobe was also a really good defender too,

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Speaker 5: And it's kind of the knock on Luca, especially last

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Speaker 5: year in the NBA Finals going up against the Boston Celtics,

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Speaker 5: so perimeter defense, all around great player. I would definitely

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Speaker 5: go with h with.

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Speaker 4: A guy like Kobe.

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Speaker 1: We've done just a couple of times now I keep

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Speaker 1: I think my pick would be Kareem. I know my

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Speaker 1: pick would be Kareem for this particular team because he

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Speaker 1: was a good defender.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the thing of it is, like this question and

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Speaker 3: Offen skews with age, we are gonna pick either Koreeb

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Speaker 3: or Shack or somebody like that. Where to be honest,

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Speaker 3: my people would be Magic just because like I don't care,

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Speaker 3: I Magic to my guy in the same way that Kobe.

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Speaker 2: Is his guy.

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Speaker 3: M But I mean, you know, I don't think you

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Speaker 3: can go That's the thing about you know, you know,

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Speaker 3: picking this with the Lakers, you can't really go wrong.

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Speaker 2: Like you're you're you're.

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Speaker 3: You're you're picking between like top ten all time guys

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Speaker 3: or fifteen or wherever you have them, you know, not

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Speaker 3: to offend anybody.

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Speaker 5: Well, if we're talking about fit, to think about someone

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Speaker 5: like Pau Gasol playing with Luca and Lebron, Like he's

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Speaker 5: a seven footer, but he's also an elite passer too,

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Speaker 5: So you have the size, you have that length, and

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Speaker 5: you pair that up with Luca and Lebron, I.

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Speaker 4: Would be disgusting, disgusting.

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Speaker 1: I'm so old. I was I was actually gonna pick

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Speaker 1: Lou al Cinder and all right, right right, Mama, Lou,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go h there goes that man, all right,

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Speaker 1: justin What a pleasure having you on Mild and Jack

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Speaker 1: and sometimes your body got Matt Boosti's where can people

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Speaker 1: find you? Follow you, hear you, all that good stuff.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so when I'm not talking basketball with you guys

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Speaker 5: on this amazing podcast, Thank you guys again for the invite.

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Speaker 5: I really do appreciate it. I'm a I'm a diehard

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Speaker 5: Lakers fan. I love the NBA, so getting to jump

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Speaker 5: on a podcast like this is an absolute honor for me.

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Speaker 4: So thank you again. You can check out my work.

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Speaker 5: I cover Arizona football for the Arizona Daily Star in

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Speaker 5: Tucson dot com.

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Speaker 4: I also host a radio.

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Speaker 5: Show on ESPN Tucson down here in the Old Pueblo,

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Speaker 5: and you can check out the Spears and Ali podcast.

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Speaker 5: That's the name of our show, Spears and Ali. We're

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Speaker 5: on YouTube, Apple, Spotify, the whole nine. And yeah, man,

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Speaker 5: I'm really really thankful that I was able to jump

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Speaker 5: on with you guys.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: ESPN TWOS shout out Ali.

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Speaker 5: Also find me on Twitter as well or X I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna call it Twitter.

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Speaker 1: You can call it Twitter. It's Twitter.

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Speaker 4: It'll always be Twitter. But yeah, follow me at justin

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Speaker 4: Esport all right.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter, Jack Underscore, Brian on

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Speaker 1: Blue Sky at Jack Obie the Number one, Jabari where

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Speaker 1: you can have people find you.

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Speaker 2: Jabari A.

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Speaker 3: Davis on Twitter, Jabari Davis NBA on the Better site

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Speaker 3: also known as Blue Sky.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, and that's gonna do it. Another

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Speaker 1: one in the books. Swish back next week with more

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Speaker 1: NBA actions, some playoff coverage. Can't wait. We will talk

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Speaker 1: to you all then bye,