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Speaker 1: This the One Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right back in the saddle here at One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown Steve Casker review for a Monday edition of

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live host NFL Combine. It was a good

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Speaker 2: week though. I got to talk and catch up with

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Speaker 2: a lot of our guests on our show, face to face.

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Speaker 2: So good to see people in the flesh, shall we say.

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Speaker 2: And got some good intel on this year's draft class

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Speaker 2: and who's looking at who and you know where players

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Speaker 2: could be on the move as we'll get to in

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Speaker 2: a little bit here and around the NFL. But a

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Speaker 2: worthwhile trip, to say the least.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got something out of it. I think we

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Speaker 1: always get a chance to touch base with all those

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Speaker 1: people we know and and have them come in and

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Speaker 1: sit down with us and chit chat. It's it's that

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Speaker 1: kind of that more than anything else. To me. That

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Speaker 1: is like the turning of the calendar, even the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. You know, you're still thinking when that

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Speaker 1: combine rolls around, it's like.

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Speaker 2: It's like hit the reset.

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Speaker 1: It's like a big reset, big time. I mean, away

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Speaker 1: we go.

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Speaker 2: Even though the league year doesn't officially begin until March twelfth.

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Speaker 2: You know, we're already at March third, Like we're nine

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Speaker 2: days from the start of the new league year. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're seven days from the legal tampering period. When phone

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Speaker 2: next week at this time people get me making phone.

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Speaker 1: Calls, we're gonna hear, We're gonna hear the contracts have

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Speaker 1: been agree to. Yeah, after conversation.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna happen here in a blink, and there's a

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of teams, including the Bills, with

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Speaker 2: a lot of work to do to become CAP compliant,

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Speaker 2: and that is our topic of conversation, which we'll get

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Speaker 2: to in a little bit here, But there is there

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Speaker 2: are some news and notes concerning the Bills that we'll

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Speaker 2: get to write off the rip here. Number one Bill's

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Speaker 2: wide receiver Khalil Shakir, who agreed to a four year

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Speaker 2: contract extension through the twenty twenty nine season, is going

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Speaker 2: to officially sign his contract here at One Bill's Drive

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Speaker 2: today and we hope to get him on the show

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Speaker 2: a little bit later on. He does have a press

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Speaker 2: conference schedule for two thirty as well, so good to

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Speaker 2: see that get put to paper and become officially official.

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Speaker 2: You know, Shakir was mister reliable for Josh Allen in

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Speaker 2: the receiving corps. I'm sure there hoping that other guys

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Speaker 2: stepped to the forefront similar to the way Shakir did

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Speaker 2: this coming season Cee Keyon Coleman and Dalton Kincaid. But

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Speaker 2: he was the one weekly constant in Buffalo's passing game.

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Speaker 2: So the extension very well deserved.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you knew it was coming. He was gonna didn't win,

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Speaker 1: it was gonna be but there's no way they're going

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Speaker 1: to let Khalil Shakir walk out the door. Congratulations to him.

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Speaker 1: It's awesome. It's a big deal for him and his family,

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Speaker 1: and uh yeah, that was the news for Buffalo during

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Speaker 1: the week at the Combine when he signed his deal.

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Speaker 2: The interesting thing about that contract is it runs through

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty nine season, so they kind of took

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Speaker 2: the last year of his rookie deal, which is this year,

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Speaker 2: and tacked on four more years. And I would assume

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Speaker 2: that the structure of the money is different as well,

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Speaker 2: but we'll have to see once the details come out

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Speaker 2: on his contract. So it's the same actually this year

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Speaker 2: and then four more on top of that, twenty six

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Speaker 2: twenty seven, twenty nine. So in essence, it's his rookie

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Speaker 2: you got him locked up here, so it's called a

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Speaker 1: But yeah, right through his the prime of his career.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's and he's uh, I don't know. We

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Speaker 2: But we'll see, we'll see, he's possible.

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Speaker 1: He we'll get him. He's going to come in.

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Speaker 2: He's got business to take care of first, so that

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Speaker 1: You've got to sign his name like three times. That's

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Speaker 1: I congratulations, let's got man. What a feeling. Yeah, good

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Speaker 2: It was a pretty good February and early March for him.

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Speaker 2: NFL Networks Ian Rapaport reported this on Sunday. He said

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Speaker 2: the Bills, according to his sources, will not submit a

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Speaker 2: tender offer to restricted free agent tight end Quintin Morris.

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Speaker 2: The Bills do, however, want to resign the versatile tight end,

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Speaker 2: who was also a core special teamer. My My suspicion

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Speaker 1: It might be, And it might be that they're willing

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what you would think would happen. They're not

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Speaker 2: He does all the dirty work at the tight end

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Speaker 2: effort would be made to get him back and re signed,

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Speaker 2: just not at the tender amount. I think they'd like

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Speaker 2: That's that too, So we'll see where it goes through

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Speaker 2: the course of the free agent period. Let's go around

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Speaker 2: the NFL presented by Kalida Health, the official healthcare system

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Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills, and the Eagles are releasing veteran

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Speaker 2: corner Darius Slay, a six time Pro bowler. He's going

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Speaker 2: to be designated a June first cut, and he's going

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Speaker 2: to say Philadelphia a little over four million on the

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Speaker 2: of their draft class, in Quinnon Mitchell and Cooper Dejen,

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Speaker 2: So Slagh becomes expendable because of that. He was going

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Speaker 2: The reason he's going to be a June first designation

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Speaker 2: His cap figure goes way down after June first, because

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Speaker 2: you're spreading it over two years.

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Speaker 1: So the money that it would have had to go

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Speaker 2: Yeah, half this year, half next year, and you end

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Speaker 2: up saving money that way. Tennessee Titans are already beginning

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Speaker 2: their pre draft thirty visits, in which you can host

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Speaker 2: up to thirty prospects in this year's draft at your facility.

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Speaker 2: Titans are naturally targeting some of the top prospects since

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Speaker 2: they have the first pick in the draft. Penn State

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Speaker 2: ed Rushier Abdul Carter is going to visit there on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Miami quarterback cam Ward will visit Friday, and then Colorado

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Speaker 2: Schador Sanders visits the following Monday, a week from today,

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Speaker 2: and then his teammate corner slash wide receiver Travis Hunter

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Speaker 2: will be visiting at a later time, no date determined,

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Speaker 2: but he is on their schedule, So no surprise there.

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Speaker 2: Some of the top guys in the class. You want

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Speaker 2: a little bit better. Minutes at the combine probably isn't enough.

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Speaker 2: If you're investing the first overall pick and said player.

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Speaker 1: It's twenty plus million dollar investment. Yeah, they're gonna get

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Speaker 2: Pre raft visit. You get them all day long at

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Speaker 2: your place, right. Yeah, that's just a lot better than

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Speaker 1: I can't believe they are at one point in this

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Speaker 1: for eight figures. Yeah, and it's you don't even know

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Speaker 1: but that's it's common. And I'll say this too, what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna meet fifty people.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna find out who you are, plus the like

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Speaker 1: bring in sports psychologists, so they're like psychoanalyzing you. And

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Speaker 1: it's they don't hide it, no, you know, like how

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Speaker 1: do you feel about business? Tell me about this? What

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Speaker 1: what your family say about it? What do you think

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Speaker 1: about it? It's unbelievable. It's a lot of money, though,

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Speaker 1: so you're willing to jump through whatever fiery hoops they

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Speaker 2: And he's still miss well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because teams still miss.

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Speaker 2: H yeah, because sometimes the prospects aren't completely truthful. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 2: or you miss on what you thought made the guy

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this to you, there's no way to know.

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Speaker 1: You can't tell all the time. Sometimes you can, sometimes

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Speaker 1: you can't. But nobody knows what's going to happen. When

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Speaker 1: you hand a twenty two year old kid a check

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Speaker 1: for eight million dollars or twenty million dollars or whatever,

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Speaker 1: it is, all of a sudden, that kid's life's different,

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Speaker 1: and so he's different and he's not the same kid.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to think I wouldn't. Money wouldn't change me.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Mike. Let's find out. Somebody give me

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Speaker 1: a check and I'll try and be the same. That theory, right,

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Speaker 1: Think about it, man, You guys are like twenty one, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and they're getting.

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Speaker 2: Handed they're already getting handed.

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Speaker 1: That in kind of Wow, that's true, that's true. That

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Speaker 2: I wonder if that not maybe yet, but in time,

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Speaker 2: will help NFL personnel executives got a better handle on

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Speaker 2: how money impacts those players.

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Speaker 1: It's one more layer to the van process.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm here. We are like three years later after

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Speaker 2: That worked, and he wasn't successful in his previous place.

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Speaker 1: And they couldn't get it done. That's yeah, that's yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well let's see right now they've got Yeah, they got

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Speaker 1: It's three mega contracts and one.

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Speaker 2: That's how San Francisco has done it.

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Speaker 1: It's all. Yes, San Francisco is a very was a

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Speaker 1: I mean, the problem is they go out to a

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Speaker 2: Sets And that's my issue. How compromised is the rest

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Speaker 2: That's that's the rub.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, are you gonna have ten draft picks and

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Speaker 1: You know, you think about it, You're probably gonna have

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Speaker 1: that's the way you gotta do it so that you

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Speaker 1: But Hendrickson's thirty. I mean, you're not gonna give him

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Speaker 2: Right, not at age thirty. So you know that's Chase

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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase is an absolute beast.

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Speaker 2: And he's entering his prime.

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Speaker 1: There's nobody like him in the league, in my opinion, nobody.

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Speaker 2: He had the triple crown this year. I mean, if

436
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Speaker 2: there was ever a year to lead into your big

437
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Speaker 2: pay year, he did it. He did it in a big,

438
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Speaker 2: big way. Yeah, So more power to him. Last note

439
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Speaker 2: in around the NFL, the Packers are resigning linebacker Isaiah

440
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Speaker 2: McDuffie on a two year, eight million dollar deal. McDuffie

441
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Speaker 2: had one hundred and eighty three tackles over the last

442
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Speaker 2: two seasons. That's pretty productive. So he's got a new

443
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Speaker 2: two year deal with the Pack whose defense I think

444
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Speaker 2: is a little underrated. That's another team that needs help

445
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Speaker 2: on the front end and help on the back end

446
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Speaker 2: pass ruy and at corner. So and they pick ahead

447
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Speaker 2: of the Bills. So something to keep an eye on

448
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Speaker 2: in the draft. So coming up on the show though

449
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Speaker 2: in oh I don't know about ten minutes time, we're

450
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Speaker 2: going to catch up with Ryan Fowler and talk to

451
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Speaker 2: him about the goings on at the NFL combine. He's

452
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Speaker 2: an NFL in college football analyst for the Draft Network.

453
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Speaker 2: It's got a couple of guys that kind of popped

454
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Speaker 2: out to him that oranger same run of the mill,

455
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Speaker 2: top of the board guys, So we'll go over to

456
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Speaker 2: some of those with him. We also have a topic

457
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Speaker 2: of discussion for you today because, as we mentioned, the

458
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Speaker 2: start of the league year sits just nine days away.

459
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Speaker 2: Which tool do you expect the Bills to use most

460
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Speaker 2: to get under the cap by March twelfth, it's a

461
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Speaker 2: poll and we want you to weigh in. Is it

462
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Speaker 2: a contract extensions, B CAP, casualties or C contract restructures.

463
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Speaker 2: Probably use all of them to some degree, but which

464
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Speaker 2: one carries the day to get the bills cap compliant.

465
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Speaker 2: That's what we're asking you, and you can chime in

466
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Speaker 2: at eight O three zero five fifty one eight eight

467
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Speaker 2: eight five point fifty two five fifty the number to

468
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Speaker 2: get on board. We did talk to coach McDermot and

469
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Speaker 2: Brandon being about that last week on the show, and

470
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Speaker 2: both kind of agreed that they didn't expect it to

471
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Speaker 2: be as much of a what's the word I'm looking

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Speaker 2: for here. I don't want to call last year a

473
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Speaker 2: hatchet job by any means, but they did have to

474
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Speaker 2: say goodbye to some free agents that they knew they

475
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Speaker 2: were not going to be able to afford and re sign,

476
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Speaker 2: those most notably being Leonard Floyd Gabe Davis, who commanded

477
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Speaker 2: big money on the free agent market, and they knew

478
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Speaker 2: they were going to have to clip some high priced

479
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 2: veteran players on the roster, Mitch Morris being one of

480
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Speaker 2: the prime examples, Sous White and Tredevious White. They don't

481
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Speaker 2: expect at least the vibe we got from them was

482
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Speaker 2: they don't expect it to be as severe as the

483
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Speaker 2: salary cap casualties werelat year, but there's probably going to

484
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Speaker 2: have to be a couple some or maybe some that

485
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Speaker 2: don't save quite as much as those players did last

486
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Speaker 2: year because they had players with big cap numbers that

487
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Speaker 2: they clipped off the roster last year. This year, you

488
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Speaker 2: might have players that don't carry as big a cap

489
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Speaker 2: savings by themselves, but collectively they might, you know, come

490
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Speaker 2: close to what we saw last year. But they didn't

491
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Speaker 2: think it was going to be as severe as last

492
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Speaker 2: offseason in terms of CAB casualties, which leads me to believe,

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Speaker 2: you know, they're looking at extensions for some of their

494
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Speaker 2: young players to help them save on the cap, which

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Speaker 2: being mentioned specifically. And then I think restructures are still

496
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Speaker 2: an option as well, something they've done quite often in

497
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Speaker 2: previous offseasons.

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Speaker 1: They're still sitting ranked twenty ninth in the league and

499
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Speaker 1: cap in being over the cap, so they've they've got

500
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Speaker 1: some work to do. They still have some work to do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no question about it. And look, I'll see where

502
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Speaker 2: the poll is now and see where people are weighing

503
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Speaker 2: in on this because I'm pretty curious as to what

504
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Speaker 2: the early returns are on the poles. I'm gonna pull

505
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: it up here and see where things are coming in.

506
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Speaker 2: Apparently I have to vote to make this the same thing.

507
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Speaker 2: So right now leading the way contract restructures a little

508
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 2: over fifty four percent of the vote. Contract extension. Second. Yeah,

509
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Speaker 2: nobody's really expecting too many CAP casualties, less than ten

510
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Speaker 2: percent of the vote right now. I think there'll be

511
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Speaker 2: a few. I think there'll be a few couple of

512
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Speaker 2: positions where they're heavy in numbers. Quarterback, they have two

513
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Speaker 2: punters on the roster. I mean, yeah, you know, I'm

514
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Speaker 2: just being real like, it's a business and they're gonna

515
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Speaker 2: have to make some business decisions here in the next

516
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Speaker 2: week to get CAP compliance. So which avenue do you

517
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Speaker 2: think they take eight oh three zero five, fifty one

518
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Speaker 2: eighty eighty five, fifty two, five point fifty the nobody

519
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Speaker 2: to get on board? Which do you do? You have

520
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Speaker 2: a are you leaning one way or the idea?

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Speaker 1: I'm with the poll and this one. I'm thinking that

522
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Speaker 1: there's no way. I mean, they're going to do some

523
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: contract extensions, not many that the restructures are where most

524
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Speaker 1: of the money's going to be is where it is already,

525
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Speaker 1: and it's certain guys that you want to pay anyway.

526
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Speaker 1: So people you realize, like Fris, you want to restructure Dion.

527
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: I was going to pull the numbers up. But if

528
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Speaker 1: you're going to restructure somebody, that means you're going to

529
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Speaker 1: take a guy like Dion Dawkins his cap hit and

530
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Speaker 1: you're going to give him the money now. I mean,

531
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Speaker 1: he's the fourth thing, can advertise it. Yeah, his cap

532
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: hit this year's nineteen million. Well give him the nineteen

533
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 1: million now as a bonus, spread it out over the

534
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Speaker 1: rest of the contract, and now you're presto changer. You've

535
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Speaker 1: got it. So there's more money to be had by

536
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Speaker 1: doing that. Josh Allen, same thing. He's a forty four

537
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: million dollar cap hit this year. Give him his money.

538
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Speaker 1: You know you're not gonna cut him. He's him VYP

539
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 1: So give him the money now and you take that

540
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: forty four million, you give him the veterrim minimum. You

541
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Speaker 1: save forty three million dollars on the cap or forty

542
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: two million dollars on the cap and change the presto chango.

543
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: There you go. There's money, so all of that stuff

544
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: is possible Von Miller and we all know this. To Vaughan,

545
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Speaker 1: You're not gonna give him twenty three million dollars as

546
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: a cap hit this year.

547
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 2: You're just not gonna just playing twenty eight snaps a game.

548
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Speaker 1: You're not gonna do it. So and Vond knows that too.

549
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: I mean, we're not talking out of school here. So

550
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna do something with that. Either give him a

551
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: post one release and then try and sign him right

552
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: back at a lesser number, or let him find another

553
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Speaker 1: deal if he wants. There was talk remember when they

554
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Speaker 1: first signed Von of him being on the he wants

555
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Speaker 1: to because he realized, I mean, he's we all think

556
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Speaker 1: of him as this old guy. He's thirty six, thirty

557
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: six in a week, so he's he's gonna be thirty six,

558
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Speaker 1: So everybody thinks, like, wow, he's that's too bad. He's

559
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: an old guy. Now, well he's thirty six, so he

560
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: wants to do something after he's done. And that was

561
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Speaker 1: when we get into the front office. So the Bills

562
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: could entice him with saying, listen, we'll have a spot

563
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: for you when you're done. If you want to be

564
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: done playing, you can come up and start apprenticing to

565
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: be a GM assistant GM. All of that stuff. You

566
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: can start, you know, start that that track. And so

567
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: maybe that's an incentive for Vaughn to hang around. I

568
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: don't know, but all this stuff is on the table.

569
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Speaker 1: You just go with ed Dion and Josh and you've

570
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: got as much as you want to do. And you

571
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: could if you want to do all of that, you

572
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: could fit Miles Garrett under this thing. Man. I mean,

573
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: it's it's all there. So yeah, they're gonna be fine.

574
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: It just depends on how they want to do it.

575
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Speaker 1: And that's why I say the poll today it's restructuring.

576
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Speaker 1: That's that's where the money is.

577
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Speaker 2: Right break time for us here. When we come back,

578
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Speaker 2: we'll catch up with Ryan Fowler, NFL and college football

579
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Speaker 2: analysts for the Draft Network talk about some of the

580
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Speaker 2: prospects that caught his eye that might be flying under

581
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Speaker 2: your radar. We catch up with him next year on

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live, presented by co Lot of Health. It's

583
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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here on a Monday

584
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Speaker 2: edition of One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with

585
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: you and joined now by NFL and college football analysts

586
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: for the Draft Network, Ryan Fowler, who was taken in

587
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: the combine just like we were in Indie and got

588
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 2: some under the radar players. You know, we hear the

589
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 2: headline names all week long, guys that are probably gonna

590
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 2: go in the top fifteen picks. And Ryan decides to

591
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 2: go a little bit deeper, and we're gonna go a

592
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: little deeper with him here with some of these guys.

593
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Speaker 2: We're gonna kind of cover with him. So first, thanks

594
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Speaker 2: for joining us and giving us some time. Second part,

595
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start with the big guys because I believe

596
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 2: the Bills are in the market for defensive tackles, end

597
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: ends and Josh Farmers in name that's come up. He's

598
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 2: been mocked to the Bills in some of those multi

599
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: round mocks you know that go into day two and

600
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Speaker 2: even day three. And I gotta tell you he passed

601
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Speaker 2: the measuring test thirty five inch arms, ten and eighth

602
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: inch hands, eighty three and a half inch wingspan. I

603
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: know he didn't necessarily wow in the testing, but he's

604
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: a six three, three hundred and five pound man. Nobody's

605
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: expecting him, you know, to run a four four forty.

606
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 2: Where did you kind of come down on his positional

607
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: workout and how he looked there?

608
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Speaker 3: Yeah, first things, first, guys, Appaci you having me on, Yeah,

609
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 3: Josh Farmer. You know, I've even talked to some teams

610
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 3: here over these last few weeks that have a first

611
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 3: round grade on a guy like Josh FA Farmer. You know,

612
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 3: he is a guy that, look he passed the eye test,

613
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 3: you know, first off, the bus type of player. He

614
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 3: is someone that flat out gets after it a front

615
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 3: and he mentioned, you know, he's not going to wow

616
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 3: in positional drills or wow and testing too much. But

617
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 3: when you turn on the tape of him at Florida State,

618
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 3: you know, there's even been some conversations as far as

619
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Speaker 3: teams that have been reminded a little bit, as far

620
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 3: as Braden Fisk right, a teammate of his last year

621
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 3: down there for the seminoles. So Josh Farmer is a

622
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 3: guy in that second round, early third round bucket to

623
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Speaker 3: where he's going to come in right away and expect

624
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 3: to make an impact right away. As far as one

625
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: tech three tech, he can even align with the nose

626
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 3: a little bit and offer some vertical push for you,

627
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 3: because there's a lot of teams around football and say, look,

628
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 3: we can teach you to stop the run, but that

629
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 3: vertical push from the interior, as we saw with the

630
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Speaker 3: Eagles against the Chiefs and the Super Bowl, you got

631
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Speaker 3: to be able to push from the interior. And Jofra

632
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 3: Farmer's a guy that can absolutely do that.

633
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. And one of the things about him was, you know,

634
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: he's six three three h five, so he's not he

635
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: carries it really well. It looks like he's he's got

636
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: the right way. That is that what you've heard about?

637
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes these guys they come into the combine

638
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: and you hear rumblings of well, most NFL teams would

639
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: like him fifteen pounds heavier or they'd like, you know

640
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Is there anything like that about

641
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: Josh Farmer.

642
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Speaker 3: The one thing about Josh is that there's not a

643
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 3: lot of sloppy fat on his body. He's a guy

644
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 3: that's I'm not going to call him a weight room warrior,

645
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 3: but he's someone that sticks to his craft and has

646
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 3: a good body type at his side. You mentioned over

647
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 3: three hundred pounds, he's got good arm length. That build

648
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 3: to get his hands over his eyes is something that

649
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 3: you want to see from these young defensive linemen coming

650
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: into the next level where they have that floor ability.

651
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 3: And I think in this class guys where there's so

652
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 3: many questions as far as trying to find these athletes

653
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 3: that have a high floor and have potentially high ceiling

654
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 3: to where you look at the Bills to where they're

655
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 3: coaching and their development. They've been able to develop players

656
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 3: the last four or five six years. So a guy

657
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 3: like Joshua Farmer to come into where you can stop

658
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 3: the run, you can push on passing downs, and you're

659
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 3: someone to weigh and we think that has their best

660
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 3: football down the road. That's potential Brandon Bean to look

661
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 3: at and say, hey, look we want to take a

662
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 3: chance on this young man on day two.

663
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: All right, so another big guy. And look, if you're

664
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Speaker 2: a team like the Bills, who may get a defensive

665
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: tackle early and then you're looking to scoop another one

666
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: up later. Marilynd's Jordan Phillips might be the guy because

667
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 2: he's six one and a half three twelve, but short arms,

668
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 2: so sometimes that dings a guy and he slides a

669
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 2: little bit. I know he had twenty nine reps on

670
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 2: the bench. Short arms helps with that, he was tied

671
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 2: for second most among defensive linemen on the bench at

672
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: the combine decent explosion numbers. But where do you kind

673
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 2: of come down on Jordan? Is he kind of like

674
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 2: a fringe Day two, Day three guy?

675
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: Yeah?

676
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 4: He is.

677
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 3: I Guys, I will say this on Jordan Phillips. You know,

678
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 3: former all everything as a wrestler, you know what you're

679
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 3: gonna get with those guys up front, whether they're offensive

680
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 3: lineman or defensive lineman. Winning in isolated scenarios and winning

681
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 3: with leverage is the biggest thing that pops on Jordan

682
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 3: Phillips's tape. And I'll say this even at podium sessions

683
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: throughout the week, I don't know if there's a player

684
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Speaker 3: that I enjoyed more hearing from than Jordan Phillips. From

685
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 3: the start of his podium session to the end, I

686
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 3: just felt like walking out of there, I felt like

687
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 3: I wanted to run through a brick wall. For a

688
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 3: guy like Jordan Phillips, and for someone like that to

689
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 3: come into Buffalo where you need more push up front

690
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 3: and you need just some guys that have that mental

691
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 3: attitude to say I want to beat this guy in

692
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 3: front of me and I take every single rep personally.

693
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 3: That's where I'm at with Jordan Phillips, and I think,

694
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 3: I know we didn't blow away in testing, but to

695
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 3: turn on the tape and you see his background and

696
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 3: also the technicality at the position. That's someone I'm gonna

697
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 3: take a chance on. I really do like in this

698
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 3: class as another name within this interior group.

699
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna get to know this defensive line class

700
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: pretty well here and so we're we're going down list,

701
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 1: but there's also some some vacancies and some need for

702
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: some defensive backs as well. Some of these guys and

703
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: you go through in the first thing you look at

704
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: and I know we're we're in the prisoners of the

705
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: moment with the combine what do you run the forty

706
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: time in? But you know you get guys like Max Harrison,

707
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: who's a corner runs a four to two eight. What

708
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: are some of the pluses and minuses for him out

709
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: of Kentucky?

710
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, biggest two things in the corner spot, right, can

711
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 3: you cover a man? Can you run? Well? Maxwell Harrison's

712
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 3: obviously covered that in the SEC. And I think the

713
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 3: ball skills, the instincts on the outside, you've seen how

714
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 3: teams even the past, you know, and even when the

715
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 3: commander's overdrafted. A guy like Emmanuel Forbes at sixteen, how

716
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 3: teams are valid, guy like Travis Hunter where ball skills

717
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 3: instincts the Traybon Diggses of the world. When I look

718
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 3: at Maxwell Harriston, you know, the speed, the tape all matches,

719
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 3: and I also love his competitiveness as just a guy

720
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 3: that's going to compete in the fringe areas as a tackler.

721
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 3: You know, every single offense in football wants to make

722
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 3: linebackers cover in corners and DB's tackle. That's a guy

723
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 3: like Maxwell where he is not the biggest guy in

724
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 3: the world. He's not built like a sauce gardener, but

725
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 3: he's someone on the outside that will only stick his

726
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 3: face and the mud for you. And kind of that's

727
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 3: that evaluation to round out his profile. I really enjoyed

728
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 3: Maxwell Harriston's tape, and then when you're starting to check

729
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 3: off the boxes of production tape and athletic texting, he's

730
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 3: also a good young man as far as from my understanding,

731
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Speaker 3: as far who he is shoulders up and within the years.

732
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Speaker 3: Maxwell Harrison's a player I don't expect to get out

733
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 3: of the first round.

734
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't even know if he's getting a

735
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 2: thirty where the bills are sitting with the workout that

736
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 2: he had, I mean, he also had a thirty nine

737
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 2: and a half inch vertical a ten nine broad jump

738
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Speaker 2: to go with that four to two eight. Like I

739
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: hate to say it, but he's only give me a

740
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 2: long gune.

741
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Speaker 1: Like you said, his only drawbacks. The guy wears a

742
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: buck eighty three, but he plays bigger than that. But

743
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: he does play with a little bit of spice in

744
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: his in his you know, in his play. So yeah,

745
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: that that does give him something.

746
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 2: Sure, let's let's talk about more of an under the

747
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: radar player. This kayleb Bransaw from Tulane five to eleven

748
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: one to ninety seven hit almost twenty three miles per

749
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 2: hour when he ran his four to three three at

750
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 2: the Combine over the weekend, forty inch vertical, ten nine

751
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: broad jump, even had sixteen reps on the bench, which

752
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 2: is pretty good for a dB. Where do you kind

753
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: of slot him draft board wise?

754
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 3: I love what I saw from kayleb Bransaw, really this

755
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 3: whole predraft process guy. Seeing him down at the Senior

756
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 3: Bowl and of course what he did in Indie. As

757
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 3: you guys just mentioned, you know there's a lot of

758
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 3: players down in that Louisiana area that if you don't

759
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 3: end up at LSU, either you end up at a

760
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 3: Tulane or Louisiana Tack. I'm in Row or even Louisiana

761
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: Lafayette to where those guys just go everywhere. And now

762
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 3: the athletic profile for Caleb is there, but I think

763
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 3: even watching him at the Senior Bowl to where he

764
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 3: played some high he played some in the box. He

765
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,959
Speaker 3: even had some snaps as a nickel guy or even

766
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 3: that hybrid type of safety linebacker. This is a player

767
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 3: to where you see the athletic testing if he can

768
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 3: figure it out a little bit and find that happy

769
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 3: median as a football player. You may be talking about

770
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 3: a guy for the Bills perspective in the fifth, sixth,

771
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 3: seven type of rounds. So they have a lot of

772
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 3: capital in this draft. I believe upwards some five selections

773
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 3: in those areas to where they can grab a guy

774
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 3: like that and say, hey, look, maybe we want to

775
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 3: ask you to cut your teeth on special teams a

776
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 3: little bit while you slowly work into our coverage snaps

777
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 3: and then maybe we find just a kind of a

778
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 3: diamond in the rough type of player with a guy

779
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 3: like Caleb Brandsaw so another guy again, really good pre

780
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 3: draft process, really good athletic testing. Excuse me, And when

781
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 3: you work into the back end of Day three and

782
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 3: you're trying to parallel prospects and say, who can I

783
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 3: take a flyer on that can play some ball a

784
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 3: little bit? That's going to be like kayleb brandsoft for

785
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 3: an NFL organization.

786
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's just right at two hundred pounds of

787
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: ninety seven, which means it gives you an idea that

788
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: maybe he'll be not only versatile enough and be able

789
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: to play physical on special teams, but also be durable

790
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: when it comes to stand on the field and being available.

791
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: Lex guy, we got it. Jalen Smith out of USC's

792
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: a five to ten buck eighty seven.

793
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 2: He ran.

794
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: Very four four five four four five Yeah, still very fast.

795
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: Comes from a program with a pedigree. What are your

796
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: thoughts about Jalen Smith?

797
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 2: Guys, this is what I.

798
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 3: Enjoy so much about the process is just talking ball.

799
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 3: And Jalen Smith is a flat out football player. You know,

800
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 3: he's not going to be someone that's going to go out.

801
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 3: And he didn't blaze four to three like a lot

802
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 3: of these other corners or even receivers did. But he's

803
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 3: just someone super experienced four years at USC. He can

804
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 3: play in the box, he can play high, he can

805
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 3: come down low. He's not afraid to stick his face

806
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 3: in the mud against tight ends and man over the slot.

807
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 3: Jalen Smith is just one of my favorite fundamentally good

808
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 3: football players which goes overlooked in an era right now

809
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 3: where we get so caught up with analytics or how

810
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 3: big or how fast a guy is, like the nickaming

811
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 3: Warries of South Carolina of the world, or Shamar Stewart.

812
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 3: This is a player even like Xavier or Streppo receiver

813
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 3: from Miami where Rich really liked the football player. You

814
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: draft him, he comes into your roster, you play him

815
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 3: for the next five to seven years all over your defense.

816
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be wouldn't be shocked to get some time

817
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 3: on special teams as well. And this is a young

818
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 3: man on the third or fourth round, if he even

819
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 3: gets to the fourth or out of Day two, that

820
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 3: just can flat out play football at the NFL level.

821
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Speaker 3: I just I can't say enough good things about Jalen Smith,

822
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 3: both as the football player and as the young man,

823
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 3: and what a team is going to get as a

824
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 3: leader bona fide leader in the locker room from day one.

825
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 2: All right, last one for you here, Ryan Robert Longer

826
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: being fun name to say, five ten and only a

827
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Speaker 2: buck seventy five, a little light in the pants, but

828
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: he's got speed four three nine forty at the combine

829
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Speaker 2: in this past week, some explosion thirty six and a

830
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 2: half in vertical on a broad jump over eleven feet?

831
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Speaker 2: Does he play like Harston? Does he play bigger than

832
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 2: his south guy?

833
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you'd love to see it. You'd love to

834
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 3: see it. You know down at Shrine he's someone to

835
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 3: where you know, it came in as a I'm like

836
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 3: I say, Rutgers is a small school. It's so powerful program.

837
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 3: But you know you're seeing some of the clips here

838
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 3: as far as his ability to tackle, his ability to

839
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 3: get behind the line of scrimmage, you know five eleven

840
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 3: one five and the explosion at eleven two in abroad.

841
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 3: You know he's got some good ball production as well.

842
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 3: You know, I don't think he's someone that's going to

843
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 3: come off the board until day three, but in a

844
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 3: day and age where you just need some guys at

845
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 3: the nickel spot and some versatility and just flat out

846
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 3: coverage ability and good eyes in space. Robert longer Beam

847
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 3: is going to be that type of guy to where

848
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 3: this nickel class has some players Elijah Hussey, Jabar Mohammad,

849
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: Jacob Parrish, Maxwell Harriston kind of be in that bucket

850
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 3: little bit. Robert longer Beam on Day three. The pre

851
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 3: draft process that he's had has really elevated him to

852
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 3: himself to not just being a from a fringe draft

853
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 3: pick to a lock for a draft pick and also

854
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 3: now trying to be a contributor for an NFL defense.

855
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: Ryan, that's great stuff. I really appreciate you. Thanks for

856
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: giving us your insights to the draft, the combine. I mean,

857
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: we really enjoyed our time down there, and thanks for

858
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: sharing your insight with us.

859
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 3: Of course, thanks as always.

860
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: Guy who talks in all.

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00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 2: Right, that's Ryan Fowler from the Draft Network, NFL and

862
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: college football analyst, and he's right like, this corner class

863
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: goes deep. You got guys with some position flex and

864
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: the bills. As long as the compensatories come in, you're

865
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 2: gonna have two fours, two fives and two six's on

866
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Speaker 2: Day three, Like they're gonna be able to scoop up

867
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: some of these guys to backfill their roster. And it's

868
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 2: guys that at least athletically, you know, can hang. With

869
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 2: the talent level in the NFL and with the player

870
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: development ability of this coaching staff, you may be onto something.

871
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, you get a couple of Christian Benfords, that

872
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 1: would be nice, but yeah, that's it's always on the table.

873
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 1: They'll they'll evaluate these guys exactly like they did.

874
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: I mean, the Bills have hit on corners that can

875
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 2: at least come on the field and contribute for them

876
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: over the years. On Day three, Aaron Johnson, you mentioned

877
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: Christian Benford, Dane Jackson. I mean these are all Sky Wallace.

878
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 5: These are all Day three.

879
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: Guys that if stuck on this roster for at least

880
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: four years. You know, it's not like he had a

881
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: guy for a year and oh you can't hang. No,

882
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 2: they bring these guys along, they develop. They may not

883
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 2: be starters, but they're on your special teams unit and

884
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 2: in case of an injury, there they are. They're on

885
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 2: the field and they're filling a role for a giving game.

886
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and even if you know they're just somebody in

887
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: the fringes this year, you know, when they develop them

888
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: by the end of the year, or if there's an

889
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: injury or whatever, you come on and it's always gratifying

890
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: when guys like that come on and exceed expectations when

891
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: they finally do get on the field. That's that's a

892
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: fun part about it.

893
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 2: You got to take a break here, But when we

894
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: come back more on our topic of discussion in terms

895
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 2: of by what means do you expect the Bills to

896
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: become cap compliant? The poll is up on the tweets

897
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 2: sheet if One Bill is Live. We're also taking your

898
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 2: phone calls next year on One Bill's Live.

899
00:43:49,680 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 5: Stay with us.

900
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,919
Speaker 2: All right back here on One of Bill's Live, Chris

901
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 2: Brown Steve Tasker with you and kind of discussing the

902
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: means by which the Bills are going to become cap

903
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: compliant by March twelfth, the start of the new league year.

904
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 2: They have to be under two seventy nine point two

905
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: at that point in time, presumably have a little work

906
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: to do to get there, because they've been projected by

907
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 2: the cap sites at about ten million over so there's

908
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: unquestionably work to do.

909
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: So.

910
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: By what means do you feel the Bills are gonna

911
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: what card are they going to play the most to

912
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 2: get under the cap. Basically, we have a poll up

913
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: for you. It's going to be contract extensions, cap casualties,

914
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 2: or contract restructures. Let's go to the tweet sheet now

915
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 2: to get some of your thoughts on this subject. Tweet

916
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 2: sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official

917
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. And Andrew says,

918
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 2: I think one of the major things we need to

919
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: do is either restructure von Miller's contract see if he'll

920
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 2: take less money, or just outright release him. I think

921
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 2: at this point in time it might be time to

922
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 2: cut ties. He's getting up in age and we need

923
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: to get younger. He does turn thirty six on March

924
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 2: twenty sixth, so he's got a birthday coming up in

925
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 2: twenty three days where he turns thirty six. It's only

926
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 2: playing about twenty five to thirty snaps a game now.

927
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: Part of the reason Steve that his playing time dropped

928
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 2: so significantly was because the Bills would rarely get to

929
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: an obvious third down passing situation. They weren't a lot

930
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 2: of third and ones and third and twos, not third

931
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 2: and sixes and third and eights. And because of that,

932
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 2: he didn't get on the field as much on pass

933
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 2: rushing downs because their third down defense was twenty ninth

934
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: in the league.

935
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, and that's why I was gonna say, two,

936
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: they're off. They're a third down defense was bad because

937
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: it was never third and nineteen. Right, So, yeah, they're

938
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: gonna do something with Vaughan. Who knows what it's gonna be,

939
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: no telling. I think they have appreciated him all, you know.

940
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: And he got hurt in the middle of all this,

941
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: which threw a wrench into everything. But he was playing

942
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: so well before he got hurt, that first injury that first.

943
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 2: Year when he was yeah, yeah, twenty two.

944
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: So and he's done nothing but be a good soldier.

945
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: I mean he took like you said, I mean he

946
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: took a he took a pay.

947
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: Cut eight and a half million dollars.

948
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's not nothing.

949
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 2: And there aren't many future Hall of Famers doing that.

950
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: That's a short list, yes, a probably list of one, right.

951
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: But the fact remains, and this is these are the

952
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 2: cold hard facts of the NFL As a business, he

953
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: represents the biggest singular cap savings were he to be

954
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 2: released on the list of players you could see potentially

955
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 2: being released, because he would save them about eight and

956
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: a half million dollars on the cap they're ten million

957
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 2: over right now. That's that's a quick way to get

958
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 2: very close to cap compliance. Obviously, there are mitigating factors,

959
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 2: as Steve has already laid out because it's von Miller,

960
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: but I think it is going to be a consideration

961
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 2: just because of the sheer numbers of what a release

962
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,439
Speaker 2: of Miller would provide you. So those are the hard

963
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 2: decisions that people like Brandon being have to make. That's

964
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 2: why they make the big bucks because they got to

965
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 2: make those difficult decisions, difficult business decisions. And you know,

966
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 2: as we heard all last week at the combine, Steve,

967
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 2: you can't be emotionally tied to these players because then

968
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 2: it makes those business decisions even harder to make.

969
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you stop making hard decisions and make the easy ones.

970
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 2: You've got to make them with your head, not your heart.

971
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: So that unfortunately in this business. Let's hop over to

972
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 2: the phones here real quick and we'll go to Bob

973
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 2: in Penfield. What do you have for as Bob You're

974
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: on one Bill's.

975
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 4: Live, Hi. I think we definitely have to do some

976
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 4: restruction contracts like all of the other callers that proposed.

977
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 4: But I have a proposed trade that I think would

978
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 4: turn our team into the Super Bowl favorites. And here

979
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 4: it goes Micah Parsons to the Bills for James Cook

980
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 4: for Kincaid, our tight end, our first round draft pick

981
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 4: this year, and elam if they want them, And I'll

982
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 4: be very happy and curious to see what you think

983
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 4: about that trade. I think it's a trade that would

984
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 4: help help both teams. It would help Dallas give them

985
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 4: a running game, a tight end, and it would I

986
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 4: think it would bring a championship to Western New York.

987
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand you got to give up a lot

988
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 2: to get a player of that caliber. That's a player

989
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 2: you're also going to have to sign to a top

990
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 2: of the market contract because of what he's done in

991
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 2: the league here on his rookie deal. So if you're

992
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 2: prepared to do that and you want to give up future,

993
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 2: you want to give up draft capital of the highest order,

994
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 2: a first round pick, which I understand you'd probably have

995
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 2: to do and an election trick running back in James Cook. Yeah,

996
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 2: I mean you got to give up to get You

997
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 2: got to give something to get something, and you'd have

998
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 2: to give up a lot to get Parsons, and Mike

999
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 2: could have to pay him on top of that.

1000
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: Right, Michael Parsons deal is twenty four million dollars this.

1001
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 2: Year and that is fifty year option.

1002
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: And it is his fifty year option. He's a free

1003
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: agent next year, so you'd have to sign him to

1004
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: an extension of at least that much money every year,

1005
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: probably more, and then you're saying goodbye to Cook. Kincaid,

1006
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 1: Kyrie ela Man, a first round draft pick, a number

1007
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: thirty pick this year. Now it's it's an intriguing prospect.

1008
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: I don't know that Dallas is standing there going yes, please,

1009
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: let's do that. Yeah, Dallas might be the team that

1010
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: says no to that, because while James Cook is a

1011
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: great player and Dalton Kincaid has a huge upside, and

1012
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: he was struggled with injury this year year, so it

1013
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: kind of curtailed him. Kyrie Elam's first round physical talent

1014
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: and the thirtieth pick. Yeah, I don't know. I don't

1015
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: know if you can get that.

1016
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 2: It's an intriguing proposal. Here's why I don't think Dallas

1017
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 2: does it. Parsons is one of their biggest box office

1018
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 2: attractions on the roster short of CD Lamb. He is

1019
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 2: their best pass rusher. They are probably losing their other

1020
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 2: pass rusher to Marcus Lawrence in free agency or to

1021
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 2: retirement other so their second best pass rusher is going

1022
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 2: to be off the roster. Now you want to get

1023
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 2: rid of your best pass rusher. Also, in a division

1024
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 2: where the Philadelphia defense dominates, I just don't see the

1025
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 2: Cowboys getting to a place where a deal is enticing

1026
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 2: enough for them to move off of Parsons. I could

1027
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 2: be wrong, but I just think in that division, knowing

1028
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 2: you've got to play against that Philadelphia defense, you better

1029
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 2: have an answer on your own defense. You know what

1030
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 2: I mean? Right, I just in that division, I don't

1031
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 2: see them parting with a with a player of that.

1032
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: Caliber Dallas uh in this In this draft, Dallas does

1033
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: have the twelfth pick, so they'll get a guy.

1034
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, you could get a Mike kel Williams maybe.

1035
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you get a guy in this draft to

1036
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: kind of replace plus, you'd have the thirty You have

1037
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: twelve and thirty. Yeah in that So, yeah, I get it.

1038
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: It's a it's a an intriguing, an intriguing offer. I

1039
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: don't know that, Yeah, it is. I think Dallas, I'm

1040
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: with I kind of with Brownie. I think Dallas is

1041
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: the one says no to that. Michael Parsons is game wrecker.

1042
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: It's like it's and Dallas is historically proud of the

1043
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 2: first round picks they hit on in a big way,

1044
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 2: and they could not have hit bigger than they did

1045
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: on Michael Parsons. So they tend to keep those guys.

1046
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 2: So I think it would take maybe even more than

1047
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 2: that to convince them to move off of Parsons as

1048
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 2: a player, especially as a player who is entering his prime.

1049
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 5: Now.

1050
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 2: I can't see them moving away from that, but it

1051
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 2: is an intriguing proposal. So a good phone call there.

1052
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 2: We got to take a break, though, because we're up

1053
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 2: against it. Here at the top of the hour, second

1054
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 2: hour of the show, we hope to have Khalil Shakir

1055
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 2: sitting right next to Steve here in studio, fresh off

1056
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 2: the signing of his contract extension. So we'll have that

1057
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 2: for you here somewhere in our number two on One

1058
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Speaker 2: Bill's Live presented by Colida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1059
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

1060
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 2: All right, here we are our number two on a Monday.

1061
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:26,439
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. It's Khalil Shakir signing day,

1062
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 2: as he will put pen to paper on his four

1063
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 2: year contract extension that he agreed to with the Bills

1064
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 2: last week. As we had Brandon Bean commenting on that

1065
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 2: on the show at the Combine in Indie last week

1066
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 2: when we had him on and you could tell he

1067
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 2: was happy. We also had head coach Sean McDermott completely

1068
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 2: crashed the taping of our Bills by the Numbers podcast

1069
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 2: last Thursday. He kind of just walked up on us

1070
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 2: while we were taping the podcast and Steve goes, hey,

1071
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 2: what this headset on? Give us four sentences about Khalil

1072
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 2: Shakir's extension, and he did just popped it on and

1073
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 2: off he went.

1074
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: He right, we're just kind of sitting there and he

1075
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: just yeah, he did not know we were taping tap

1076
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's all right, cool, it's cool though, you

1077
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: can do that. So he was. It was great. That's

1078
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,280
Speaker 1: part of the benefit of us going to the Combine

1079
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: might because it's one of the tenth pole events of

1080
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 1: the league, no question about it. And we get you know,

1081
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: everybody in an Steve Palozolo, Greg you know, Greg Cosell,

1082
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: all these guys, Charles dab We get bean In McDermott too.

1083
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,399
Speaker 1: Come on. But everywhere you go down there, you see

1084
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 1: all the I mean we touched base with Brian Dable,

1085
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: Joe Shane, all the old Bills guys everywhere, and everybody's

1086
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: guard is down. It's like they're just there to you know,

1087
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: it's not their show. It's the scouting it's the scouts show,

1088
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: it's the GM show. It's not the coaches and players

1089
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: on the league show. So they're they're kind of observing,

1090
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: kind of hanging you know, just hanging out, basically saying

1091
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: hi to the new player, you know, getting to know

1092
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 1: some of the scouts. So the atmosphere and the vibe

1093
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: is completely different than anything we get at any other

1094
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: point in the year because they're always you know, they're competing,

1095
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: and there's you know, proprietary information, and there's game plans

1096
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: they're trying to keep secret, and they're trying to practice

1097
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: and they're trying to They don't want to give the

1098
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: Meatia anything. They don't care. At the combine, they're like, hey,

1099
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: what's going you know how you're doing. Mcdermot's walking up

1100
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 1: on us, putting his arms around, going hey you guys,

1101
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 1: what you do it? I'm like, what right? So that's

1102
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: why we go to that thing because we get some

1103
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 1: access that we don't normally get and it's just one

1104
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: big collective. Just deep breath and just take it easy

1105
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: for a week and just watch the new guys coming in.

1106
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: Nobody's under any pressure to make a pick or to

1107
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 1: like a guy or dislike a guy. You're not your

1108
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: next not on the line. If a guy runs a

1109
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: slow forty, nobody cares, right, let them do their thing.

1110
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: It's totally different vibe. So it's fun to be a

1111
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: part of. And that's we got it firsthand last week

1112
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: taping the pod. Yeah, so it was good, and you know,

1113
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 1: more of that would be nice.

1114
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 2: It was interesting to watch the defensive backs test. We

1115
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 2: were already on our way out when they were testing.

1116
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 2: We were towards the end of the week by the

1117
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 2: time the DB's hit the field, and we already talked

1118
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 2: about Max Harrison, the Kentucky corner. He ran the fastest

1119
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 2: of all the dbs at four two eight in the

1120
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 2: forty hit almost twenty four and a half miles per hour.

1121
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 3: Uh.

1122
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 2: When he was doing that, there was only one other

1123
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 2: guy that ran four to three or less. That was

1124
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 2: Darien Porter, the corner from Iowa State. Everybody else was

1125
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 2: four three, five and up. Not a lot of speed

1126
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 2: demons in the cornerback draft class at the combine. I'm

1127
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 2: talking Fastah, I know, I'm talking under four to four.

1128
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 2: You know, if you're under four or five, you know

1129
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 2: you can be a corner in this league.

1130
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 1: You're in the ballpark. Yeah, yeah, you're not gonna get

1131
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: run off and left that. Yeah, the four to four

1132
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: guys are you know, these guys get out of bed

1133
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: running four fours, most of them, and if when they're

1134
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: really on, they can go low. So it's just where

1135
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: that's where the game is at and the training that

1136
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: they do and then the time they put in on

1137
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 1: it and the techniques they teach to get maximize whatever

1138
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 1: it is. You do. Have the distance, the difference between

1139
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: the fastest, fastest guys and the guys that are just there.

1140
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you see you've seen the overlays on the

1141
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: on the broadcast right where they have all those guys

1142
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: running at the same time, and they overlay all of

1143
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: them as they run together.

1144
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, they superimpose them. I like that. I like that feature.

1145
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a step and a half between all of them.

1146
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable.

1147
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, not to no one's surprised. Nick even warr the

1148
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 2: South Carolina Safety absolutely destroyed the combine as was expected.

1149
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 2: He had a vertical leap of forty three inches, which

1150
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 2: is that's nuts. Like you could fit a nine year

1151
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 2: old under his feet when he jumps in the air.

1152
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 2: Just think about that. Like a nine year old could

1153
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 2: walk under his feet as he jumps. If he walks

1154
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 2: quickly or runs, he could jump over the kid. Yeah,

1155
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 2: he could jump over a nine year old or a

1156
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 2: ten year old. Fully extend, Yeah, I believe that's bananas. Yeah,

1157
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 2: fully extended without lifting his knees. You know, he's not

1158
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 2: cheating by picking his knees up, he's just jumping straight up.

1159
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 2: That was bananas to me, some of the stuff.

1160
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: He was saying that. Yeah, every so often you get

1161
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: one of these guys that's and this kid this emon worry.

1162
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Nick emn Worrey.

1163
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: It's not just that we've seen these guys before come

1164
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: in do this at the combine. It's like, well, they

1165
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: can't play football. They can jump right run, but emon

1166
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: Worriy can play football.

1167
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 2: I was a little surprised to see Malachi Starks running

1168
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 2: four or five. I expect him to run again at

1169
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 2: George's Pro day on March twelfth. I think he's gonna

1170
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 2: try to want to He's gonna want to knock that

1171
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 2: down a little bit because the big plus with him

1172
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 2: is supposed to be position flex. He can come down

1173
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 2: and cover a slot corner. He can play the deep

1174
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 2: half safety. He can't even play the other safety role.

1175
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 2: I don't think he's big enough to be a hybrid

1176
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 2: linebacker and a big nickel, but he has versatility. When

1177
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 2: you're in that four or five range now people are

1178
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 2: worried about you keeping up with a two way go

1179
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 2: slot guy, you know smurf receivers. So I expect him

1180
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 2: to run again at the Georgia Pro Day on March twelfth,

1181
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 2: to try to lower that number, get in the mid

1182
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 2: four four as if he can, because that was his

1183
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 2: that was his best forty times. You know, had a

1184
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 2: good short shuttle for to four. But I think he's

1185
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 2: gonna want to do better there. But yeah, emon worry.

1186
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 2: He was yeah, otherworldly.

1187
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: He was different.

1188
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 2: So too was Landon Jackson, that defensive end from Arkansas.

1189
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 2: We talked to Greg co cell about a little bit.

1190
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 2: He vertical leaped forty and a half at six six,

1191
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 2: two sixty four. I think he was one of only

1192
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 2: four guys to ever jump over forty inches that weighs

1193
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 2: over two hundred and sixty pounds in combine history. The

1194
00:59:55,960 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 2: other ones are his draft Classmatehhamar Stewart from A and M.

1195
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 2: And then the other two are Mario Williams and Miles

1196
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 2: Garrett to a former number one picks. That's the list. Yeah,

1197
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 2: that is rare.

1198
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: That's a yeah that no pun intended to Jackson talking

1199
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: about vertic. It helps their draft status. You can see

1200
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: even at this level, even at the NFL level, you

1201
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: can still you can still wow some people and get

1202
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: and get pumped up just because you're able to. You're

1203
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: big and strong and the guy fits the six' six good,

1204
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: GRIEF i mean that's that gets you a. Chance, Yeah

1205
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: and the athleticism aside from it is even you, know

1206
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: it enhances. It so, yeah this guy he's going in

1207
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: the FIRST i.

1208
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 2: Think, yeah and maybe the maybe THE i don't know

1209
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 2: if you'd call it the worst thing that could have.

1210
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,919
Speaker 2: Happened But Matthew golden was a receiver that had been

1211
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 2: getting mocked to the bills at the bottom of round.

1212
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 2: One i'm not convinced they would go offense in round one.

1213
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 2: Anyway but if everything else was off the board and

1214
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 2: they had to go, receiver it doesn't look Like Matthew

1215
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:04,919
Speaker 2: golden is going to be an option. Anymore not after

1216
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 2: he ran a four two. Nine he's he's going in

1217
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 2: the top. TWENTY i, mean it's not even a.

1218
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: QUESTION i Asked Brandon, bean who are you hoping that runs?

1219
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: Slow that that was you that might remembered that that

1220
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: might have been the. Guy he didn't he did not.

1221
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 2: Run he did not run slow runs much too uh

1222
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 2: oar dis may and and there were others that ran

1223
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 2: good forty, times including some running. Backs you, KNOW i

1224
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 2: WAS i was impressed by. That That Basual tutin From Virginia.

1225
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 2: Tech he ran a four to three to. TWO i,

1226
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 2: mean you're moving at running back doing.

1227
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: The THING i we taed on all the, time and

1228
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 1: they they were talking about AND i thought they missed

1229
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 1: it on the on the broadcast and one of the

1230
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: reasons that nobody pays running. Backs AND i say, IT

1231
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 1: i say it all the, time nobody else. Does MAYBE

1232
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: i could be, wrong which is more likely the case,

1233
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: actually but you got even on the. Comment i'm looking over.

1234
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,080
Speaker 1: There they got all these, guys one after the other

1235
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 1: after the, other after the other after the, other is

1236
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 1: running four between four four two and four four. Eight

1237
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 1: they got guys running the four fours all. That they

1238
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: got twenty five guys running four to. Four that's why

1239
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: you don't pay running. Back there's there's a thousand of. Them,

1240
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: yeah why pay this one nine million when you pay

1241
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 1: this one nine hundred? Grand and he's, like, yeah he's pretty.

1242
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: Good you. Know there's just there's just too many guys

1243
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 1: that there's just enough.

1244
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 2: People people recognize names Like Trevor etn who ran a

1245
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 2: four four to two at the running back spot And

1246
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 2: Traveon henderson From Ohio state who ran a four to

1247
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 2: four to. Three there's a guy AT ucf NAMED. R.

1248
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 2: J harvey who ran a four to. Four like people

1249
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 2: Know Travion, henderson they Know TREVOR etn because of the,

1250
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 2: big high profile schools they played. At they got a

1251
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 2: guy at our AT, UCF R. J harvey's running four.

1252
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 2: Four he's running fast than those two. Cats So i'm

1253
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 2: not saying that means he's, better but it's to your

1254
01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 2: point that fast running backs are a. Diamond dozen't and.

1255
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 1: They all got a skill, Set they've played, football they

1256
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: all have something they're bringing to the. Table and maybe

1257
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: a GUY ucf got a little bit of a chip

1258
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: on his shoulder because he got overlooked by A clemson

1259
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 1: and a you know in An alabama and At. Georgia

1260
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: now He's i'm AT. Ucf watch, Me i'm gonna go.

1261
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: Win i'm gonna have the better career than any of those.

1262
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 1: Guys watch me and they. Do, Man. LISTEN i Love

1263
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: James cook as much as the next guy unless It's

1264
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: brownie and you KNOW i and he was great this,

1265
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: YEAR i mean really great this. Year but, Dude I'M

1266
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: i have a hard time getting over. That there's just

1267
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 1: too many guys that are close to that physical skill

1268
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 1: set and that's why you don't outpay another guy for.

1269
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 2: IT i wanted to balance this off you because while

1270
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 2: we were driving Back friday night From. Indy you, know

1271
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 2: the times were coming in on the, receivers and you

1272
01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 2: Remember texas Receiver Isaiah bond at the podium. Seat i'm

1273
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 2: gonna break my former teammates, record Namely Xavier. Worthorthy ACTUALLY

1274
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 2: i don't know if they were, teammates had he transferred

1275
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 2: already From. Alabama, anyway he said he was going to

1276
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 2: break the record of four to two one set By Xavier.

1277
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 2: Worthy he promptly goes out and runs a four three,

1278
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 2: nine which is a good, time you, Know but how

1279
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 2: how you're a personnel. Executive, okay you Hear Isaiah bond

1280
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 2: say this the day before the, Workouts i'm gonna break the,

1281
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 2: record and then he comes out and by timing, standards

1282
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 2: he's not really. Close how do you how do you

1283
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 2: square that as an evaluator of that guy and what

1284
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 2: makes him? Tick is that a good? Thing or that

1285
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 2: he's that? CONFIDENT i gotta. TALK i got to hear

1286
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 2: his or is he not? Good because he couldn't back

1287
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 2: it up because he got he has to know going

1288
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 2: in what he's been running and clocking.

1289
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: It he got to talk to some. People, hey you

1290
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 1: got to talk to. Him but you know. Too all

1291
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: these guys come, in they're all supremely, calm let's go, yeah,

1292
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: Yeah and there's you, know in the locker, room tons

1293
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: of outlandish things are said when you start talking to

1294
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 1: the media and you say, It, oh that's.

1295
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 2: It that's a little.

1296
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: Different so that puts me in the mind WHERE i

1297
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: want my. GUY i want to talk to. HIM i

1298
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: want to hear what he. SAYS i want to see

1299
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 1: what kind of. Kids, YEAH i want to, Say, okay

1300
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 1: is he is? He AM i gonna have to address

1301
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 1: something he said to the media On? Friday On? Saturday

1302
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,439
Speaker 1: AM i gonna, like, yeah when he's on Our, yeah

1303
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 1: when he's on our, Team AM i gonna, Say, Well

1304
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 1: isaiah didn't really mean to say it like, that what

1305
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 1: he really? Meant AM i? Gonna? Is this gonna be a?

1306
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 1: Thing you gotta. Know you gotta know you don't want

1307
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 1: a guy who spouts off On wednesday's pressers about the

1308
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: team you're about to play and put and you, know

1309
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: start a fire you got to put out for the

1310
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 1: rest of the week and his teammates have to put

1311
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 1: out for the rest of the. Week but you, know

1312
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: it's one thing to come out and, say, Yeah i'm

1313
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: gonna beat his time. Out, okay that's. Cool you he

1314
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: can't do, it all, right very. Nice but if he's

1315
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 1: but if he doesn't have the self awareness to know

1316
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 1: that that kind of stuff comes back at, You, yeah

1317
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: that's a. Problem. YEAH i was, curious but you got

1318
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: to check it out now it's an.

1319
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,439
Speaker 2: ISSUE i was curious how teams were going to take.

1320
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 2: That now he, could he could go to The Texas

1321
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 2: Pro day and you, know they'll put him on a fast,

1322
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 2: track have him probably run down, wind you, know and

1323
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 2: maybe he runs a four to three, flat but he's

1324
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 2: not running four to. Two it's just you don't run

1325
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 2: a four to three nine and then two weeks later

1326
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 2: suddenly you're running four to, Two like that's just that's Not.

1327
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 1: He might how it. Works he might have had his

1328
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 1: cousin time and him with a stop watch and he, says,

1329
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 1: yeah it's a four to you, know you, know, okay

1330
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 1: because when you do that on hand time, stuff it's

1331
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: it's a way faster than it is electronic. Timed.

1332
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 2: Yeah and although it was interesting to see some of

1333
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 2: the unofficial times actually get lowered by a hundredth of

1334
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 2: a second or like there were guys that were listed

1335
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 2: as a four to three and they're, LIKE i hope

1336
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 2: he's like. Them Like Matthew, golden he was originally unofficial

1337
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 2: time for to three and then they gave him an

1338
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,919
Speaker 2: extra hundredth and he went down to four two. Nine

1339
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 2: so USUALLY i, WAS i, Was i'm almost expecting it

1340
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 2: to go the other way, sometimes but actually they went

1341
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 2: Down at.

1342
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 1: This, point there is no bigger hundredth of a second

1343
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: than the one between four three to zero and four

1344
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 1: to two. Nine four to two has, cachet, yes it, does,

1345
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 1: yes four.

1346
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 2: Followed by point two has cachet, Yes and it is

1347
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 2: the biggest seducer to personnel executives that you can probably.

1348
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: Find that's.

1349
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 2: Right so, yeah that's kind of where that.

1350
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 1: Is.

1351
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 2: Uh let's go back to the tweet sheeet to get

1352
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 2: some more of your comments as our topic of discussion

1353
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 2: today is which tool will the bills use most to

1354
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 2: GET cap compliant between now And march. Twelfth they've got

1355
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 2: some work to do to get under the. Cap by

1356
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 2: what means do you think they will do? It and,

1357
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 2: look the probably gonna use all of these avenues to get,

1358
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 2: There but which one is the prevailing option that you

1359
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 2: think they tap into the most eight h three zero

1360
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 2: five point fifty one eight eight eight five point fifty

1361
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 2: two five point fifty those are the numbers to jump

1362
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 2: on board. Bills fan, says restructure because that's what McBean does.

1363
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:23,799
Speaker 2: Best they have utilized it several times in the. Past

1364
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 2: there are guys that have restructured more than. ONCE i

1365
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 2: Know Dion dawkins. HAS i Believe Dawson knox has and

1366
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 2: he may have to again because his cap number is

1367
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:37,759
Speaker 2: fourteen point three, million so AND i Believe Matt mulano has,

1368
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 2: so and he could be another candidate again this. Year, so,

1369
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 2: yeah restructuring has and they Restructured josh's contract last year

1370
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 2: to save twenty two.

1371
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 1: Million so now they can do that whenever they, want.

1372
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 1: Right so there's nothing that says they have to do

1373
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,639
Speaker 1: that even before getting cap, compliant but it's the easiest

1374
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 1: way to do. It and, yeah so they've got some.

1375
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 1: Options and don't, forget they're ten million closer to being

1376
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 1: cap compliant than they were last year at this. Time

1377
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 1: but they don't have the low hanging fruit of The

1378
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: Mitch morse deal and the Tredevious white deal. Either. Yeah

1379
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 1: Micah hyde And Jordan poyer. Deals, well of course they're free,

1380
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 1: agents but it was it was so, yeah that's, yeah

1381
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 1: they'll get it done and we'll hear about it in due.

1382
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 1: Course BUT i think the the restructures are exactly where

1383
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 1: the most of the money is that they can get

1384
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 1: if they want.

1385
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 2: To, yeah let's go to the phones and To mike In.

1386
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 2: Lancaster what do you got for, Us mike here on

1387
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 2: Want bill's.

1388
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 4: Life, YEAH i mean we always talk, about you, know

1389
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 4: we got a great running back and all, that And

1390
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:52,440
Speaker 4: i'll cook. THAT i don't really think fifteen million dollars

1391
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 4: as much an ask as for how much he could.

1392
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 4: DO i think he could.

1393
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 1: Do a lot.

1394
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 2: More so you think fifteen million a year is a fair.

1395
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 4: NUMBER i think it's very fair for the talent that he.

1396
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 1: HAS i think it's very fair on his. END i

1397
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: don't think it's fair for the. Bills, yeah that's a

1398
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 1: lot of. Money it. Is Saquon barkley's making.

1399
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 2: Twelve Sorry, mike got any meaning to cut you off?

1400
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 1: There and he's a free he was a complete free.

1401
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 2: Agent, yeah so you think fifteen millions?

1402
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 1: Fair?

1403
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 2: MIKE i think what and we've tried to explain this

1404
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:27,839
Speaker 2: to some. Degree cook is in a full time feature.

1405
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 2: BACK i think he had one hundred and eighty carries last.

1406
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,679
Speaker 2: Year that's more than A it's about one hundred fewer

1407
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 2: Than Josh jacobs Or Saquon. Barkley because the team had

1408
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,640
Speaker 2: a third downback In Ty johnson who was off and

1409
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,640
Speaker 2: out there on third. Downs so Now cook's off the field, right,

1410
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 2: wrong or, indifferent however you feel about. It that's how

1411
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,640
Speaker 2: they ran. It And Ray davis was mixed in as,

1412
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 2: well albeit sparingly in some. Weeks AND i think they

1413
01:10:55,600 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 2: did that under the auspices of let's Keep James cook.

1414
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 2: Fresh so when we get to the, playoffs he's still

1415
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 2: making game breaking plays for, us AND i think we saw.

1416
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 2: THAT i anticipate that kind of regimen to, continue which

1417
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 2: Means cook may never be a two hundred and fifty

1418
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 2: carry a year.

1419
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 1: Back.

1420
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:20,759
Speaker 2: Ever does he run, tough? Yes is he not afraid

1421
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 2: to play? Physical? Yes can he do that for seventeen

1422
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 2: games thirty carries a. Game i'm not so, Sure And

1423
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 2: i'm not so sure The bills think that way. Either,

1424
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:34,679
Speaker 2: so knowing his workload is always going to be, managed

1425
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 2: paying him fifteen million a, YEAR i don't think is.

1426
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 2: REALISTIC i think he's gonna come in somewhere between ten

1427
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 2: and a half and t.

1428
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 1: TWELVE i think that's a fat number for any running.

1429
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 3: Back.

1430
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:48,879
Speaker 2: Especially for one that doesn't carry two hundred and fifty.

1431
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 1: Times who's not in in the last series of the

1432
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 1: game because he can't pass pro you know that's, yeah,

1433
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: yeah all, right we.

1434
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 2: Got to take a break here because when we come

1435
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 2: back The Man, Hour Khalil shakir gonna join us in studio.

1436
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 2: Here fresh off the signing of his contract. Extension he

1437
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 2: joins us next here On One Bill's. Live stay with

1438
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 2: us all right back here On One Bill's, Live Chris,

1439
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 2: Brown Steve, tasker and the man who just put pen

1440
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 2: to paper on his four year contract. Extension Kalil shakir

1441
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 2: joining us here in. Studio congrats, man super happy for.

1442
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 2: YOU i guess maybe first of, all when did you

1443
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:42,600
Speaker 2: kind of get when that things were moving in the

1444
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 2: right direction and it was going to.

1445
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 6: Happen, YEAH i mean probably a few weeks ago was

1446
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:50,440
Speaker 6: WHEN i first heard, about you, know just the communication

1447
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 6: between my agents and you, know the front, office and

1448
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 6: it's just you, know you start playing for ONE i

1449
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 6: was seven years, old you, know so like and then

1450
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 6: as you go, on you see you, know social media

1451
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 6: and you pick your favorite players growing up and see

1452
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 6: them get extension and stuff like, that and then like

1453
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 6: Now i'm IN i was involved in those, talks you,

1454
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 6: know and then just to kind of see it all come,

1455
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 6: together you. KNOW i before it was, announced the night

1456
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 6: before is when it was, like all, right, cool got

1457
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:20,719
Speaker 6: the final. Call and it's just been like a crazy feeling,

1458
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 6: since LIKE i don't really know how to feel obviously

1459
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 6: super excited and stuff like.

1460
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 1: That but it feels, surreal does? It AND i get it,

1461
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 1: too BECAUSE i does it. Feel how do you feel about?

1462
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,679
Speaker 1: NOW i mean it's it really is more than anything

1463
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 1: else as stamp of validation for all from the time

1464
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 1: you're seven years, old, RIGHT i mean it's, like, WOW

1465
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 1: i did, it did some, stuff? Right? Yeah how do

1466
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: you feel now going? FORWARD i mean with THE, mvp

1467
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 1: he's still throwing you the. Football you're a large part

1468
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 1: of his. Success how does it make you feel going

1469
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 1: forward as a bill as this you, know the, town the,

1470
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 1: franchise a, team your spot on. It, yeah it's it's

1471
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 1: a dope.

1472
01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 6: Feeling, MAN i playing with, seventeen IS i, mean the

1473
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 6: dude does some crazy things every single. Game and you

1474
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 6: know he called me when you know, everything when the

1475
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 6: news went, out and you, KNOW i was just told.

1476
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 6: HIM i was just, like he's truly and honestly the

1477
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 6: best Athlete i've ever been. Around and to have the

1478
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 6: opportunity to continue to play with, him it's.

1479
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 1: Special.

1480
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:20,639
Speaker 2: MAN i know you spent some time last offseason with

1481
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 2: a Former bill And eric. Molds i'm sure he already

1482
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 2: texted you a few, times if not spoke to you

1483
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 2: on the. Phone if he, did what was that conversation,

1484
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 2: Like and how much credit Was eric taking for what

1485
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 2: transpired derrib between last season off the field and now the.

1486
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 2: Extension it's.

1487
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 6: Crazy we we actually really don't text. Much, Okay it's

1488
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 6: we see each other in the off season and you,

1489
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 6: know we work, together and after, that it's like he'll

1490
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 6: shoot me a text every now and, then just you,

1491
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 6: know little. COMMENTS i keep going and you, know chip

1492
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 6: on your, Shoulder AND i hadn't heard from him TILL

1493
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 6: i seen, him and THEN i walked in and of,

1494
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 6: course you, know you, know a big hug and and

1495
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 6: it was a. Congrats then it was right, away all,

1496
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 6: right let's get to.

1497
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 2: Work what what element of your game do you feel

1498
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 2: he helped you advance the most playing in twenty twenty.

1499
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 6: Four, yeah we talked, about you, know the off season

1500
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 6: before we talked about just the yards after contact and you,

1501
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 6: know the yards after. Catch that was a big point of,

1502
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:17,680
Speaker 6: emphasis you, know before the. Season that's the, first the

1503
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 6: very first. Thing he's, like what do you want to work?

1504
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 6: On and, uh you, KNOW i always make the common

1505
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 6: words like it's it's, easy you know to run a

1506
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:25,600
Speaker 6: five year od or out and catch the, ball but

1507
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 6: what you do after that is super. Special and we

1508
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 6: kind of just dove a little deeper into that conversation

1509
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,640
Speaker 6: and that's what we focus. On so whether it was you,

1510
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:35,640
Speaker 6: know the, lifting the drills on the, field you, know

1511
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 6: everything had a point of emphasis around you, know being

1512
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 6: special once you catch the ball and after.

1513
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 1: That. Yeah SO i got toot my own horn here

1514
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 1: to before this last year when you were the only

1515
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 1: guy who had caught a pass From josh in the. Game,

1516
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 1: Right so you're starting with the, receiver all these new,

1517
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 1: guys and we had these hot take moments AND i

1518
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 1: said this team would lead the league in, scoring, right?

1519
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 1: Yep well you? Did you said a franchise after the

1520
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 1: playoffs after The super the regular season playoffs were all.

1521
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 1: Gun nobody scored more points in this. Offense get this

1522
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 1: all everybody eats. Mantra really it. Worked, Yeah and a

1523
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 1: large measure is because you all bought. In, yeah.

1524
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 6: DEFINITELY i think you, can you, know, say have these

1525
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 6: sayings and you, know try and come up with things,

1526
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 6: right but to actually you, know go out there and

1527
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 6: do it for everybody to to buy. In you, know

1528
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 6: it's a, process AND i think everybody you know took.

1529
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 6: It we took it all upon ourselves to you, know

1530
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 6: hold each other accountable and you, know to put in

1531
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,640
Speaker 6: the work you know, before during after, practice in the

1532
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 6: film in the film room and you, know studying you,

1533
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 6: know defenses and stuff like, that like all that stuff

1534
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:37,839
Speaker 6: goes into play to you, know be in that. Spot

1535
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 6: and it's everybody truly buying. In you, know nobody was

1536
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 6: one foot, in one foot. Out so you have a

1537
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 6: group of, guys a team of guys who are just

1538
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 6: super unselfish and wanted to play and win for each.

1539
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 2: OTHER i Saw josh retweet The bill's social post about

1540
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 2: your extension with a big heart next to. It have

1541
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 2: you heard from you know YOUR.

1542
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 6: Qb, yeah he called me not too long but actually

1543
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 6: pretty quickly AFTER i got. Announced and it's just a dope.

1544
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 6: Conversation my brain was pretty, Scrambled like it was LIKE

1545
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 6: i was kind of all over the. Place AND i

1546
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:11,600
Speaker 6: even you, know doubled down on the thank you to

1547
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 6: them after the after the phone, call just sent, them

1548
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:17,720
Speaker 6: you know a little text just, saying you, know just

1549
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:19,600
Speaker 6: how THANKFUL i am to to play with him and

1550
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 6: that he's my, quarterback and just told him like it

1551
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 6: AND i mean, it like my my success is from,

1552
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 6: him AND i truly mean, that you, know him trusting,

1553
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 6: me you, know throwing me the. Ball LIKE i said,

1554
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 6: before he's just he's one of kind and to be

1555
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 6: able to continue to play with him as.

1556
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 1: Special so you got. This now you're obviously. Established what

1557
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 1: how has your you, know you got your support staff. Here,

1558
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 1: congratulations congratulations to all of you. Two but you know

1559
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 1: you now you're kind of AND i we've said it

1560
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 1: takes a year or two to get established because you

1561
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 1: need an off season routine so you can train without

1562
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 1: thinking about other. Things and now you got your, contracts

1563
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 1: so you got other you, know a few other things

1564
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 1: taken care of now your off, season give us an

1565
01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 1: idea of your off. Season what's your, Schedule, like do

1566
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: you get together with you, Know josh or a guy

1567
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 1: you throw with In South carolina or whatever it. Is

1568
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 1: how's your off season kind of taking shape these?

1569
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 6: Days, yeah we usually get together as you, know a

1570
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 6: receiving group or you, know as a a skilled group

1571
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 6: in general with the you, know running backs tight ends

1572
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:18,640
Speaker 6: after OTAs you, know will take a week in or,

1573
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 6: so you, know sometimes it's longer than that to just go.

1574
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 6: Something we'll pick somewhere and go and just hang out

1575
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 6: for the, weekend you, know bond and also you, know

1576
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 6: get some work in and spend a few hours on the.

1577
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 6: Field but, yeah off season, nowadays just In South carolina

1578
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 6: training with, Molds i'm training with you, know have two

1579
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:38,720
Speaker 6: different trainers turning With row over. There so it's it's been.

1580
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 6: Fun it's been. FUN i think ever since the, news

1581
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 6: both my trainers have just both been, like, hey, like you, know,

1582
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 6: congrats but let's get to, work you. Know so and

1583
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 6: that's WHAT i love and that's Why i'm working with

1584
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 6: them is you, know it's all, cool BUT i think

1585
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 6: there's a lot more to.

1586
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 1: Accomplish out.

1587
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:56,679
Speaker 2: There you obviously had some say as these talks kind

1588
01:18:56,680 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 2: of got streamlined and we're both pointing in one. Direction

1589
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 2: that's not the case for the rest of the roster for.

1590
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 2: You but those are teammates that you love and care.

1591
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:09,600
Speaker 2: About and you know that EVERY nfl roster has changed and.

1592
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 2: Turnover but how does it play on your mind when

1593
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 2: you have teammates that you love and respect and maybe

1594
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 2: their contracts up or they have to restructure something and

1595
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 2: you don't know how that's gonna. Go i'm always curious

1596
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,639
Speaker 2: because especially this locker, room which is so tight, knit

1597
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 2: how do how does that weigh on? You your stuff's

1598
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 2: taking care of you don't have to worry about that,

1599
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 2: anymore but what about other? Guys and how does that

1600
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 2: play on your mind through the course of the offseason

1601
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 2: when you're, wondering, well who's going to be, here who's

1602
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 2: gonna get done and that kind of.

1603
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 6: Stuff, YEAH i think. Obvious LIKE i, said there's there's

1604
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,720
Speaker 6: a lot of changes after every single, year and this

1605
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 6: team definitely out of you, know Since i've been with The,

1606
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 6: bills like this is probably the closest we've ever. BEEN i,

1607
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 6: mean you just had a group of, guys LIKE i said,

1608
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 6: earlier who just truly cared about the person in the

1609
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 6: right in their, left like we all truly cared for

1610
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 6: each other and wanted our play to be as best

1611
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:59,640
Speaker 6: as we could for one, another you, Know SO i

1612
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 6: try not to think too much about all. THAT i,

1613
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 6: know no matter what what we're you, know guys stay in.

1614
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 6: Touch but also you, know being doing his. Thing obviously

1615
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 6: we know you know how how great of a leader

1616
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 6: he is and appreciate him as. Well so there's a

1617
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 6: lot of things that JUST i THAT i don't, control nobody,

1618
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 6: controls and you just kind of just you, know let

1619
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 6: it all play.

1620
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 1: Out last one for me at tough end of the

1621
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 1: season as always thirty one other, teams you, know you

1622
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 1: kind of same. Thing what was the? Message what'd you?

1623
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 1: Guys you know you're parting words to each. Other you

1624
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 1: come back in the locker, room and then here the

1625
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 1: next day you Got you, know it's tough because you

1626
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 1: say goodbye to that team and the next year you're

1627
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:39,599
Speaker 1: gonna have different. Guys some guys will be going it's

1628
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 1: a different team coming. Night what was the last few

1629
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 1: days of this? Season you, know you come back and

1630
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 1: your locker clean out and exit. Interviews give us an

1631
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 1: idea of what the message was for all you.

1632
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 6: Guys, YEAH i, mean LIKE i, said a lot of

1633
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 6: stuff that that none of us really. CONTROL i think

1634
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 6: we in that, moment we just were super appreciative of

1635
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:00,680
Speaker 6: each other and in the journey and season that we

1636
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 6: had went, through and you, know we weren't supposed to

1637
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 6: be where we as what we were, hearing you, Know

1638
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 6: so it was more just a lot of you, know you,

1639
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 6: know thank, you you, know love, yous and we'll kind

1640
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 6: of just see how everything plays, out you. Know, SO

1641
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 6: i think again it was just a lot of guys

1642
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 6: just being appreciative for one another throughout the season and

1643
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 6: everybody truly supporting each other for you know what's to.

1644
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 2: Come, well congratulations once, Again. Khalil we couldn't be happier for.

1645
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 2: You glad it got, done so you can just focus

1646
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 2: on the work at. Hand we know you'll get back

1647
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 2: at it real. Quick With, eric make sure you say

1648
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 2: hi to. Him for, us we don't see him as

1649
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 2: much as you, do so make sure you say hi to.

1650
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 2: Him we'll see you back. HERE i know you'll be

1651
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:35,840
Speaker 2: ready to roll In.

1652
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 1: April, YES i appreciate you all for having.

1653
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 2: Me all, right That's khalil shak here joining us here

1654
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 2: On One Bill's, live fresh off signing his contract. Extension

1655
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 2: will take a. Break be back with more here On

1656
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 2: One Bill's, live presented by Co loi Of. Health It's

1657
01:21:45,600 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. Radio all, right back here On One Bill's,

1658
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 2: Live Chris, Brown steve tasking with, you and there is

1659
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 2: some BREAKING nfl. News The Cincinnati bengals have placed the

1660
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 2: franchise tag on wide RECEIVER T higgins for a second

1661
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 2: straight off, season this one to the tune of twenty

1662
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:21,600
Speaker 2: six point two million. Dollars and that's kind of where it.

1663
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 2: Sits so they've locked up at least at least bought

1664
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 2: themselves some time to come to a contract agreement long

1665
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 2: term WITH. T. Higgins according to the Athletics Diana, rassini

1666
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 2: The bengals have made a contract offer To Jamar, chase

1667
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 2: but the sides remain far apart for. Now, obviously we

1668
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 2: know things can change rapidly in those kinds of, negotiations

1669
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 2: but right, now nowhere near each other in terms of contract.

1670
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 2: PARAMETERS i can't see a way That higgins is there

1671
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 2: And chase is, not can?

1672
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 5: YOU? I.

1673
01:22:56,800 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 1: Can't If chase withholds his, SERVICES i.

1674
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 2: Can he don't See chase on another. TEAM i just.

1675
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,640
Speaker 1: Don't, no, no, No cincinnati never let that guy out the.

1676
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 1: Door they'll they'll make him sit and for. Nothing, well

1677
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 1: his contract is, up, CORRECT i mean.

1678
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 2: HE'S i think he's got his fifty year.

1679
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:23,760
Speaker 1: Option, okay, yeah here also and and so there's just

1680
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,680
Speaker 1: no way he's gonna he's gonna. Win he, may LIKE i,

1681
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 1: said he. May you, know he's made do to make

1682
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 1: twenty one million this year and that's. It that's the last.

1683
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 1: Year so they Could i'll take exactly what they're gonna

1684
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:40,680
Speaker 1: do In. Cincinnati they're gonna play hardball with. Him and

1685
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 1: unless he holds out and that's all it's gonna. Be

1686
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:47,760
Speaker 1: then next, YEAR T higgins they either let walk or

1687
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 1: they put the franchise tag On chase and he'll make

1688
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 1: the franchise tag and they'll let T higgins out there

1689
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 1: playing that. Game absolutely they, Will, okay they, will.

1690
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 2: They'll, YEAH i, mean do you need any more convincing?

1691
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 2: That you, Know chase is the top of the market,

1692
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 2: Receiver like you gotta pay.

1693
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 1: Him he did, everything well you, Can they'll franchise him

1694
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 1: they'll franchise. Him that's exactly what they're gonna.

1695
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 2: Do tare off locking them. Up that's the out of

1696
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 2: these three, guys you gotta get. Done he's the most.

1697
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:20,839
Speaker 2: Important he's entering the prime of his. Career he's the, youngest,

1698
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:25,759
Speaker 2: like and he's the most, productive like, receptions receiving, yards

1699
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 2: touched out.

1700
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 1: LIKE i get all. That but they've got the they've

1701
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 1: got the out that they can franchise, him just like

1702
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 1: they DID T. Higgins, yeah and they'll. Franchise they use the. Franchise,

1703
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 1: well they don't have to this year because he's under

1704
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 1: contract for twenty one. Eight SO T higgins gonna make

1705
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 1: more than he is this.

1706
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:44,639
Speaker 2: Year that ain't. Happening chase will not. PLAY i think he'll.

1707
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 2: Sit he sat last. Year remember he was sitting in training.

1708
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 2: Camp he was a hold in last year because he

1709
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 2: wanted an. Extension you gonna. Get you're gonna tell Him,

1710
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 2: Higgins higgins is not only. Here he's gonna make more than,

1711
01:24:57,200 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 2: you five million more than. You he's gonna absolutely lose his.

1712
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 2: Mind he will lose his.

1713
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:06,480
Speaker 1: Mind we have seen this In cincinnati.

1714
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 2: BEFORE i, mean don't get me, WRONG i don't mind

1715
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 2: things being acrimonious In. Cincinnati they will.

1716
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:16,599
Speaker 1: Be they will. Be The bengals aren't gonna Sign Jamar

1717
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 1: chase to anything more than what they want to pay.

1718
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:21,759
Speaker 1: Him and you said they're far. Apart they're probably asking

1719
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 1: to pay him what they're paying the franchise tag TO

1720
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 1: T higgins for a four year, deal.

1721
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:27,720
Speaker 2: And he wants thirty two and, up, yeah.

1722
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:30,599
Speaker 1: Year he wants twenty eight million more than that spread.

1723
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 1: Out he wants thirty, yeah twenty six.

1724
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 2: Million he wants what his buddy FROM lsu, Got.

1725
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 1: Jefferson they're probably they're probably offering him twenty six million

1726
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 1: a year for a four or five year, deal which would,

1727
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,640
Speaker 1: be you, know one hundred and twenty one hundred and

1728
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 1: thirty million, dollars and he's wanting one hundred and fifty,

1729
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:52,599
Speaker 1: million one hundred and sixty million. Dollars that's a lot

1730
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 1: of money to be a. Part he wants thirty three

1731
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 1: to thirty five a year and they're giving, him they're

1732
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 1: gonna they're probably offering him what they're Paying higgins twenty

1733
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 1: six a year if, that and the length and the

1734
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 1: terms and all, that and how much is, guaranteed all of,

1735
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 1: that that's just wild to they that's what they're gonna.

1736
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 1: Do they're gonna Franchise higgins this, year Franchise chase next,

1737
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 1: year and play hardball with.

1738
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:24,799
Speaker 2: THEM i DON'T i don't see that as creating lasting,

1739
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 2: bonds you know WHAT i. MEAN i, mean maybe it doesn't,

1740
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:31,560
Speaker 2: care but, like this is A. France this is arguably

1741
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:36,640
Speaker 2: arguably the best receiver the franchise has ever, had and

1742
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 2: they're gonna play hardball with.

1743
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 1: Them, YES i. HAVE, i on the other, hand have

1744
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:47,560
Speaker 1: had conversations with men who have played for that. Organization,

1745
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 1: yeah lasting relationships is not a, priority not their. Fortune

1746
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 1: it does not seem like that's been high on our priority. List,

1747
01:26:56,080 --> 01:27:00,240
Speaker 1: okay so you, know we'll we'll see how We're this

1748
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 1: takes us Now february of two years before they are

1749
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 1: a year full year before they have to do. It

1750
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:11,839
Speaker 1: i'm and they. May i'm Jamar chase can be franchised next, year, yeah,

1751
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 1: okay AND T higgins will be gone next.

1752
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:18,880
Speaker 2: Year we'll put it on the. WHITEBOARD i think it's

1753
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 2: completely within the realm of. Possibility knowing the way The

1754
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:24,599
Speaker 2: bengals do, BUSINESS i wouldn't put it past. THEM i really.

1755
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 2: Wouldn't but that The bengal world of, annoyance. Angst it's

1756
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:34,639
Speaker 2: frustration the. Team there's some. Teams teams care about different.

1757
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 2: Things let's let's put it this.

1758
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 1: Way you've got teams out there with guys who are

1759
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 1: playing meaningful snaps for them who other teams took off

1760
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 1: their board because of character. Issues you've got other teams

1761
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:48,759
Speaker 1: who won't draft a guy who is a phenomenal football

1762
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:52,640
Speaker 1: player because he doesn't meet their physical. Parameters there are

1763
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 1: certain teams out there who Have there are rules in

1764
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 1: place for the salary, cap for the franchise, tag for

1765
01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:00,799
Speaker 1: the transition, tag or they're in place for those teams

1766
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:04,680
Speaker 1: to leverage at every, moment and they. Do teams believe in,

1767
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:08,719
Speaker 1: it and they every team is. Different they're all, similar

1768
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:10,759
Speaker 1: they all have the same, rules but they all handle

1769
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:14,680
Speaker 1: it completely. Differently and you, Know cincinnati's one of those

1770
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 1: teams that handles they have always handled it their own.

1771
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 2: Way the deadline to use the tag is at four pm.

1772
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 2: Tomorrow that is the, deadline so teams that are considering

1773
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 2: it have a little over twenty four hours to execute

1774
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 2: it if they feel they need to use it or

1775
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 2: want to on a particular player on their roster who's

1776
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 2: going to be a free. Agent So higgins is on

1777
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 2: the list now as he has been franchised for a

1778
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 2: second straight, season this time to the tune of twenty

1779
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 2: six zero point two million. Dollars and if they want

1780
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 2: a Happy Jamar, chase they're going to have to up

1781
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:51,759
Speaker 2: the anne on a long term deal with an average

1782
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 2: annual's value of greater than, that and probably by at

1783
01:28:55,680 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 2: least five million, dollars at least that, much because anything

1784
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 2: that's not north of thirty million a, year he's not signing.

1785
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:06,600
Speaker 1: IT i.

1786
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 2: Wouldn't this is one prime chance to completely blow up

1787
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:17,720
Speaker 2: the market and make you, know generational. WEALTH i, mean

1788
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:19,799
Speaker 2: he's already a rich, man but you know What i'm.

1789
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 1: Saying, Right but he's gonna make twenty, one almost twenty

1790
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:25,519
Speaker 1: two million dollars this, Year Jamar chase Is higgins is

1791
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 1: gonna make another twenty Six, yeah they're.

1792
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:33,640
Speaker 2: Both are you signing that right away if You're? Higgins, yeah,

1793
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 2: yeah probably.

1794
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 1: Right, yeah.

1795
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:38,719
Speaker 2: It's nothing to sneeze.

1796
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 1: At he's twenty he's twenty six years.

1797
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 2: Old, yeah he's gonna make a million for every year

1798
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 2: he's been on the.

1799
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 1: Planet he's, yes and and he's gonna be a free

1800
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 1: agent next year when they Franchise jamar.

1801
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:51,680
Speaker 2: And he's playing with a good.

1802
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:52,600
Speaker 1: Quarterback yes he.

1803
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 2: Is that is it for us. TODAY i hope you

1804
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 2: enjoyed The Khalil shakir interview after he signed his contract.

1805
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 2: Extension will have plenty of more for you. Tomorrow we'll

1806
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 2: see it one h