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Speaker 1: All right, another week. It's November. It's time for Over Promised.

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Speaker 2: What your buds covin on rich November to remember it's

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Speaker 2: the first of the month. Welcome to the show, Kavino

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Speaker 2: and Rich Over Promised, like you said, brought to you

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Speaker 2: by DraftKings Sports Book. Hey, or everybody had a happy

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Speaker 2: and save Halloween. Believe that's over already, November. Don't forget

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Speaker 2: to pay your bills. Pay your bills.

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Speaker 1: All right. Well, hey, we're gonna get to a lot today.

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Speaker 1: I got you. Listen.

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Speaker 3: Baseball last minute pick is tonight, Game five of the

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Speaker 3: World Series and an NBA pick courtesy of DraftKings.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that.

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Speaker 3: Plus, when it comes to kids' sports, think back to

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Speaker 3: your little league days. When do you start caring about

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Speaker 3: keeping score, winning, losing, all that type of stuff.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm still thinking I had twenty seven Litle

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Speaker 2: league home runs, so you're super stuff four to twenty five?

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Speaker 2: Can continue still thinking? Ah, the glory days. Yeah, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna get into that. But Halloween was yesterday. Trick or

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Speaker 2: treat small my feet had a great time. Kids had fun.

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Speaker 2: It's nice seeing the kids out living their life. There

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Speaker 2: we are at Fox sports doing our thing. I was

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Speaker 2: a ghostbuster, a Vato ghostbuster. Rich was super rich, Davis.

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Speaker 1: Super Mario, lazy super Mario.

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Speaker 3: I finally got to shave the mustache. I feel naked today,

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Speaker 3: but lazy.

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Speaker 2: Why because he had sweatpants on, shut pants on.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, but it was fun. It was fun.

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Speaker 2: Halloween is fun, that's the point, right, So it was

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Speaker 2: nice to see some of our sports heroes getting dressed up.

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Speaker 1: There were some great costumes in the world of sports. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You know my theory though on Halloween. I said it

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Speaker 3: yesterday on Fox Sports Radio. If you reject Halloween as

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Speaker 3: a grown man, yeah, it's guess you never got booty

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Speaker 3: in your life because you go through a stage of

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Speaker 3: your twenties, thirties, of your single that's the day. It's

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Speaker 3: like the most scandalous, let's be honest, like promiscuous day

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Speaker 2: You're getting some action, inhibitions are down, you're having fun

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Speaker 2: on You're right. If you don't like it, there's some

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Speaker 2: resentment there. So maybe he didn't have a good experience

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Speaker 2: with Halloween. It kind of goes back to Little League.

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Speaker 2: You know, we're talking about it later. If you hated

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Speaker 2: Little League. I assume you sucked a little, true because

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Speaker 2: you have some sort of weird resentment as a result.

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Speaker 2: But again, some really good costumes in the sports world.

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Speaker 3: Well there's one costume. It wasn't an athlete. This is

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Speaker 3: some dude. And you know, I played investigator and I

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Speaker 3: saw the New York City subway behind him. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 3: a kid that sort of quote. One Halloween in the

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Speaker 3: sports world, did you see the dude dressed as Randy

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Speaker 3: Johnson and his girlfriend was a bloody dead bird.

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Speaker 2: That is just great. You're the dummy at first show,

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Speaker 2: Like we'll took close to him. I don't know the bird,

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Speaker 2: you idiot suck?

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Speaker 1: Who is this a dufest baseball? Oh Randy Jackson, I

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Speaker 1: get it. Oh, you know what.

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Speaker 2: And he wore the full uniform, so a plus. Like

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Speaker 2: you said, Rich, a lot of people said that, Hey,

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Speaker 2: no need for contest.

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Speaker 1: They already won. And that's the first time.

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Speaker 2: It's been years since that happened, the first time I've

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Speaker 2: ever seen it as a constant.

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Speaker 3: You know what, twenty years and a ten Diamondbacks are

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Speaker 3: back in the World Series.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, wait, relevant again, I like it. I like it.

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Speaker 1: Another costume we all saw.

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Speaker 3: Now this has been recycled, but I can't get enough

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Speaker 3: of Mike Tyson as a bumblebee.

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Speaker 2: It went viral again for whatever reason. But this is

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Speaker 2: what on Foulin or Kimmel. It was on Kimmel's spot. Hey,

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Speaker 2: I'm a bumblebee. He Mike Dieth in Trick or Tree

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Speaker 1: And he's dancing. But yeah, it went viral, so we're

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Speaker 1: putting it on the list. I love that.

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Speaker 2: And how about wem Banyama Wemby as slender Man, which, by.

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Speaker 1: The way, was scary because he's so big and slender.

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Speaker 3: The pictures they've been showing of him trying to block

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Speaker 3: a slender man. The viral sensation, I mean that picture

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Speaker 1: Look at that.

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Speaker 2: If you saw that, you'd freak out for sure. So

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Speaker 2: very scary on this Halloween. Great job when Ben Yama again,

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Speaker 2: great job on just bringing the fun.

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Speaker 1: What's his pet? Length of pansy?

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Speaker 3: Think he wears what you got like a thirty two

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Speaker 1: Tas like sixty two wins scene. What the hell's that?

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Speaker 3: Uh, there's another one I wanted to point out, and

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Speaker 3: this was Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this went viral. Yeah, people are loving this now

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Speaker 2: In fact, though, I think we're bigger fans than Millie

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Speaker 2: Bombie Brown because we're on the streets. Is she's done

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Speaker 2: with it, She doesn't even want to talk about She

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Speaker 2: Vecna a very famous character from Stranger Things and Miles

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Speaker 2: Garrett doing his thing. I mean, that's elaborate, that's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: That's how you know you're established. He's not worried about

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Speaker 2: booty because if you're if you're a regular guy wearing that,

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Speaker 2: chances are you're not getting any action that night. No

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Speaker 2: there to scare some people and have some fun. Props

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Speaker 2: to him there.

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Speaker 3: Well, Lebron James, he broke out the beetlejuice.

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Speaker 1: Lebron James went out as beat Oh look at that

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Speaker 1: there it is. Oh and you said that. I thought

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Speaker 1: you meant the other Beetlejuice, Oh from the Howard Center

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Speaker 1: not that Beetlejuice, the other Beetlejuice. Yeah, so there it is.

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Speaker 2: You know what, That's really great And it's nice to

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Speaker 2: I love when Lebron's having fun because so many times

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Speaker 2: he's got that game face on. So it's nice to

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Speaker 3: And what I loved was We're sitting in the Fox

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Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, look at that. We all admired. Was

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Speaker 3: it James Jones? James Jones as rand.

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Speaker 1: Now wats he let that soul go?

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Speaker 2: He brought the soul glow, the sexual chalk and again

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Speaker 2: and Joy Taylor was joker and I thought that was

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Speaker 1: Again bringing the fun into the sports world. Look, sports,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people take a serious I get it.

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Speaker 1: Why so serious?

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Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I mean it is sports it's fun.

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Speaker 2: So bring the fun. Joy did a great job, hot Choker.

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Speaker 2: She was looking no four high, no joking there.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of honorable mentions, and I love the Randy Watson too,

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Speaker 2: I want to give props to the guy with thirteen nicknames,

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Speaker 2: a guy we work with on Fox Sports Radio, VJ

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Speaker 2: Vernon Big Vanilla, Big Vanilla Funny, Big Vanilla, Poppy Husky.

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Speaker 1: I think it takes half his show to give all

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I got him all too. He went

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Speaker 2: as Fred Flintstone. But what I found amazing about it

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Speaker 2: being a Yankees fan myself, I didn't know Fred was

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Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know he want Timbalans. Oh you see you.

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Speaker 3: Were looking ahead I was. I was like, well, I

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Speaker 2: When you're driving the car, your feet get a little,

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Speaker 1: You gotta put some Tims on.

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Speaker 2: So props to VJ bring in the fun the Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports and being the big Vanilla funny that he is.

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Speaker 3: Oh there's one last honorable mention. It's our friend from

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Speaker 3: the Doug Gottlieb Show, Jason Stewart went as a grumpy

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Speaker 1: Oh there is.

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Speaker 2: A grumpy fift year old guy who refuses to participate

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Speaker 1: Loving Jay Still, by the way, nailed it. Way to

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Speaker 1: go man, Jay Still. I'm showing everybody all right, you

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Speaker 1: know what it's sign for. It's not to get to

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Speaker 1: our picks.

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Speaker 3: Now, we do football picks on our Friday over promised,

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Speaker 3: figured out and mix it up today. I know it's

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Speaker 3: last minute because the World Series starts within an hour.

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Speaker 1: Pause. Great reminder.

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Speaker 2: Not only are we doing this on Wednesdays are Bonus Pond,

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Speaker 2: but Fridays as well, So please follow Fox Sports Radios

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Speaker 3: Now, I know it's Game five tonight, and it looks

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Speaker 3: like the Rangers could wrap it up. Momentums in their

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Speaker 1: Rangers were clabbering them, but yesterday Gallon's pitching it's in Arizona.

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Speaker 3: Subconsciously, I just also feel, subconsciously you want to win

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying the Rangers don't want to wrap it

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that at all, but I sort of

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Speaker 1: It's pretty much even money.

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Speaker 3: So Diamondbacks force a game six and a lot of

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Speaker 1: I could see this being a four to two game,

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Speaker 1: five to one, three to two. I like the under

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna go from eleven to seven yesterday Rangers

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Speaker 1: Well, doesn't that always happen? Like, Yeah, you're right, I

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Speaker 3: But you ever see your team in a doubleheader and

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Speaker 3: they put up like a twelve spot in the next

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Speaker 3: game they get blinked. Yeah, it's odd. Day to day

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Speaker 3: is different. It's all about pitching.

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Speaker 2: And I love to disagree with this guy, but I

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Speaker 2: don't know, but I believe him.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why, but I do the under and

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Speaker 3: the Diamondbacks to keep it a serious even though it's

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Speaker 3: the lowest rated series. I think we all want to

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Speaker 3: see a game six at least, right, take it back

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Speaker 3: to Texas.

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Speaker 1: Well, up until.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday it was competitive, right, So yeah, I agree if

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Speaker 2: we want to continue having a good series, even though

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Speaker 2: a lot of people haven't been watching it, ratings wise,

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Speaker 2: nice to see the Diamondbacks come back today. Again, I

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Speaker 2: don't have any horse in the race, and I would

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Speaker 2: We always say little league is life because even if

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you sucked at little league but you were

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Speaker 3: So there was always a reason why little league was

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Speaker 2: Know will never play after here yourself, but they're making friends. Oh,

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Speaker 2: They're getting it. There's a lot of benefits. That's the point.

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Speaker 3: My daughter's got the competitive gene that dad has because

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Speaker 3: like you were Yogi bear.

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Speaker 1: Nick. And then they have to do this little skip

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Speaker 1: and hop onto the base. It's like no run through

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Speaker 1: the ball. Here's the ship. I want to make clear.

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Speaker 3: Competitive guy, yes Coveno, I mean ee rolling little league

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Speaker 3: home run champion, right, they very competitive.

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Speaker 1: I think that what point is it about winning?

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Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna mark it down and the answer

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Speaker 3: is eight eight years old is when you start telling kids, hey, winners, losers,

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Speaker 3: we're keeping score. This is it because I see some

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Speaker 3: of these five and six year olds. They don't Someone

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Speaker 3: said keep scoring? Like keep score of what spot I

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Speaker 3: provided you. It's a the Zi Bruder film. This is

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Speaker 3: this is some b roll of my daughter's left litle

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Speaker 3: league game. Here's me pitching. I have to every kid,

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Speaker 3: I have to adjust their stance. Hey, get the bat back.

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Speaker 3: Look at this swing?

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Speaker 1: Do you think that we should keep score? And that's

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Speaker 1: a pretty.

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Speaker 2: Good She's an adorable little I'm like, look, look what

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Speaker 2: you got to keep score of at this stage of

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Speaker 2: the game.

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Speaker 1: How old are they? Again? Five?

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Speaker 2: Okay, at this stage you're keeping score of their progress.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: They're learning the fundamentals, the absolute basics of the game.

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Speaker 3: And then there they got the t I gotta go

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Speaker 3: up and and look now the balls hit.

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Speaker 2: But you know what it is rich based on years

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Speaker 2: of study. Okay, oh look, oh no she didn't hop

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Speaker 2: on first base, but she didn't run through it either.

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Speaker 2: A lot of times based on our studies and assessments.

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Speaker 2: Here the people that have the strong stance on participation

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Speaker 2: trophies and they got.

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Speaker 1: To win at an early agents.

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Speaker 2: And that are people without kids that aren't witnessing how.

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Speaker 1: Little they know about the game.

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Speaker 3: And I get it because the competitive side of me

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Speaker 3: before I had kids, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Was like, yeah, that's bullshit, like keep scoring, winning, losing.

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Speaker 3: But then once you have little kids, and you're like,

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Speaker 3: like basketball, friends, and I showed you softball.

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Speaker 1: Let's say it's basketball.

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Speaker 3: If you got five and six year olds playing their

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Speaker 3: first year of basketball, what do you call them traveling?

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Speaker 3: Every time the kid dribbles the ball with two hands

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Speaker 3: or picks it up, I think eight is in perfect age.

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Speaker 1: That's the win. That's the win.

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Speaker 2: Oh you made a basket today, Oh you made a

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Speaker 2: great pass, that's the win.

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Speaker 3: If we get three putouts a game, a game. I'm

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Speaker 3: happy if we make three outs. If a girl fields

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Speaker 3: the ball and throws it on like two bounces to

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Speaker 3: first and the girl steps on the base, victory.

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Speaker 2: Now, is this Covino and rich Kintin saw absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: What we're saying is there's a point and a specific

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Speaker 2: point in one's age again painting and broad strokes, because

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Speaker 2: everybody develops differently where it does become about winning, and

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Speaker 2: winning does matter. And we're saying it's eight years old.

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Speaker 2: When he and I agree, is fact, And if you disagree,

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Speaker 2: it's because you haven't or you're not living it currently,

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Speaker 2: because when you see how little they know, it doesn't

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Speaker 2: really matter until about eight. Okay, now the one caveat

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Speaker 2: the one rub, I'll give one free pass. And that's

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Speaker 2: football soccer, because it's simple to be like, all right, kids,

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Speaker 2: you guys, try to kick the ball that way, you

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Speaker 2: try to kick it in that goal.

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Speaker 1: And if they're like, hey, we kept score. The blue

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Speaker 1: team got four goals.

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Speaker 2: That's the only sport in which I think a score

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Speaker 2: could even be kept, I'm sticking with the answer of eight.

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Speaker 2: I think this is a nice solid number. I like

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Speaker 2: the number eight. I think it works well here Steve Young,

510
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Speaker 2: Gary Carter, if you want to dive deeper into the discussion,

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of times anyone that's going to

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Speaker 2: debate this, it's just a matter of not being there,

513
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Speaker 2: not being there, Like, unless you know, you really don't know.

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Speaker 2: Unless you're living it, you just really can't imagine it.

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Speaker 2: You really don't care as much, you're not as invested.

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Speaker 2: And there's so many examples of this. You know, when

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Speaker 2: someone's going through a breakup and they're giving you crappy advice,

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Speaker 2: it's because they never did or didn't know.

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Speaker 3: Dude. If you never if you've never been through a divorce,

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Speaker 3: you really can't understand what a guy goes through when

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Speaker 3: he has to move out of his house and his

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Speaker 3: ex wife gets to stay there with your kids.

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Speaker 2: Right, Or as a guy that's been through that, when

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Speaker 2: people try to tell me how to co parent but

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Speaker 2: they've never done it before, it he've never lived in,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, it's very tricky, very sticky, and difficult.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, when when maybe you lose a jo if you've

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Speaker 3: never lost a job, you can't really talk to someone

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Speaker 3: that got fired and be like, oh, you do hanging.

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Speaker 2: Their addictions, illnesses, how many illnesses did you not care

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Speaker 2: about until it pertained to you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now you're doing a walk or march about it, right.

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Speaker 2: And the point we're trying to make here is, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's easy to say participation trophies are lame and they're

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Speaker 2: for weenies and things like that. And winning matters when

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Speaker 2: you're five or six is probably because you're not seeing

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Speaker 2: it firsthand. And when you see a five or six

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Speaker 2: year old playing sports, they don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 2: Just still picking their nose. I mean, we're still picking

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Speaker 2: our noyes. But I mean Jack didn't do how to

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Speaker 2: wait their booties, and you're gonna tell him that winning matters.

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Speaker 1: Oh, you don't know what you're asked, but we'll keep scoring.

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Speaker 1: So they go solved.

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Speaker 3: ET's the answer, the end, and uh, we'll see you

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Speaker 3: guys back your next time spot. You have any thoughts,

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Speaker 3: you have a oh you're picking your nose or oh sorry, okay,

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Speaker 3: make sure.

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Speaker 5: I think I think you made a very valid point.

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Speaker 5: I think, especially as a parent and seeing it that

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Speaker 5: you know, the wherewithal starting to create.

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Speaker 1: They they've been in the league.

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Speaker 5: For a couple of years, right, they're starting to play

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Speaker 5: they're starting to feel it. I remember I was a

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Speaker 5: soccer star of nineteen eighty five when I was like

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Speaker 5: five years old. I don't remember keeping score at all.

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Speaker 5: I don't remember winning any trophies. I don't remember anything.

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Speaker 5: I just have a cute photo of me in a

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Speaker 5: uniform with what the soccer Yeah, that on standby.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna pull it up for you, right, no, right,

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Speaker 3: a soccer star spot before there was Ronaldo and Messi

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Speaker 3: and Beckham. And I don't know if people realize that

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Speaker 3: Spot's trajectory before he rolled an ankle in eighty seven.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it could have been. It could have been.

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Speaker 3: I know, it's a terrible, terrible story. Maybe for another day,

565
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Speaker 3: could have been, but been like a Ronaldo. Yeah, But honestly,

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Speaker 3: they go, Hey, have fun coaching all your kids' sports

567
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Speaker 3: and enjoy. We'll see you guys back here on Friday's. Fuck,

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Speaker 3: we leave with a photo of you, like, no, I

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Speaker 3: can't soccer boys. I think I blocked the memory out

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Speaker 3: of before you.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, well, winning matters everybody. And there's a winner

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Speaker 2: right there, there's a winner and that was right, Memories

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Speaker 2: of eighty seven. All right, We'll see you guys next time.

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Speaker 2: Until then, I'll rave it there at you baby, see

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Speaker 2: you in the over Promised Land.

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Speaker 1: Goodbye,