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Speaker 2: Welcome back, Ronin and Andy and the car dog. Now

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Speaker 2: let's get out over and talk to Monique Auburn, Maine. Hey, Mornique,

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Speaker 2: how can I help you today?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 4: I have a nineteen eighty six Mercedes one ninety eight okay,

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Speaker 4: with a two point three meter And what started happening

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Speaker 4: last year was when the temperature drops into the like

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Speaker 4: high thirties, low forties, the car won't.

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Speaker 5: Start, and it cranks okay, though it.

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Speaker 4: Cranks okay, and after much cranking, it actually did finally start.

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Speaker 2: It kind of wheezes to a start, It just sort

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Speaker 2: of slowly works its way in exactly.

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Speaker 4: And so then and it starts like with a weaker battery,

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Speaker 4: it seems to start better. So then we changed the

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Speaker 4: spark plugs the distributor cap, and there was still no change.

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Speaker 4: So then we tried to retard the timing and it

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Speaker 4: started much better on what the timing retarded. But it's

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Speaker 4: still not right, still not right. And then it seemed

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Speaker 4: to start better again. When the battery gets weaker and

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Speaker 4: it actually fires when the key is released from the

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Speaker 4: cranking position.

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Speaker 2: Okay, over by the battery, you're going to see some

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Speaker 2: relays and circuitry, and you really need a wiring diagram

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Speaker 2: for this car, at least the component locator se you

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Speaker 2: know what you're looking at. But there's a device on

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Speaker 2: this vehicle called an overload protection relay. Let me explain

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Speaker 2: it like this. When the temperature drops below sixty degrees,

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Speaker 2: I think it's actually fifty nine, but we'll call it sixty.

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Speaker 2: When it drops below sixty degrees, they actually have an

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Speaker 2: enrichment circuit that is applied via the computer via sensors

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Speaker 2: that tell it how cold everything is to energize a

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Speaker 2: cold start injector. This should be a cis E fuel

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Speaker 2: injection system. All right, you'll see that if you start

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Speaker 2: referencing how this fuel system works. And what they do

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Speaker 2: is you've got your injectors on the engine that are

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Speaker 2: working all the time. There is a separate cold start

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Speaker 2: injector that when the temperature drops below a certain level,

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Speaker 2: the PCM the texts that and it applies power to

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Speaker 2: engine is run, so that it's sort of like that

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Speaker 2: shot of fuel on a cold engine, the way a

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Speaker 2: choke would do it on an older carbureted vehicle. All right, Well,

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Speaker 2: that information is also influenced by the overload protection relay

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Speaker 2: which powers the called start injector. And there is a

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Speaker 2: series of tests that you can actually go through to

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Speaker 2: see do you have proper voltage out of the relay.

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Speaker 2: But the simple test is that once you locate it,

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Speaker 2: like I said, it's around the battery box area. I

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Speaker 2: believe the right side of the engine compartment. Batteries over

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Speaker 2: on the right side of the engine compartment. Okay, you'll

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Speaker 2: find the overload relay there. Take the cover off. There's

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Speaker 2: usually a place to cover over the top of it.

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Speaker 5: Look at the terminals.

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Speaker 2: They're probably all corroded because it sits near the battery

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Speaker 2: and all the battery is it falls off at all

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Speaker 2: the moisture and guess what, it corrodes the relay and

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Speaker 2: you end up cleaning it or replacing it, and usually

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Speaker 4: Okay, awesome, thank you so again.

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Speaker 1: It was the overload right right.

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Speaker 2: The bosch term is an overload circuit or it's an

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 2: That the terminals got corroded on and provided improper voltage

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Speaker 2: up to the cold start injector.

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Speaker 4: Awesome, all right, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: You let me ask you a quick question. You got

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Speaker 2: eighty four thousand dollars, you're going to have to buy

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Speaker 2: a viper? Oh of course, okay, just checking.

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Speaker 5: I love everybody.

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Speaker 2: Everybody wants to buy one. But now, what's gonna happen

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Speaker 2: when the price he gets hits five dollars a gallon?

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Speaker 2: You're gonna be upset about that?

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Speaker 4: Uh No, just like the other callar. You know, if

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Speaker 4: you're spending any four thousand dollars on a car, five

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Speaker 5: It's not gonna matter.

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's it's getting to be where five dollars

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Speaker 2: night having fun with a hot rod.

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Speaker 5: Exactly, gotcha? All right, you have a good week.

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Speaker 4: Minute, Thanks so much.

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Speaker 5: You're welcome an time. Bye bye, Let's go over. Let's

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Speaker 5: go talk to Bob Philpsburg, New Jersey. Hey, Bob, how

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Speaker 6: Good morning? Yeah? We got the engine and transmission installed

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Speaker 6: in this car. Okay, and the car stood up in

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Speaker 6: And then I put it all back together and went

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Speaker 6: and then I realized no oil pressure. So anyway, so

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Speaker 2: Well, let me back up a second, Bob, are you

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Speaker 2: you're going off the warning light on the dashboard.

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Speaker 6: Well, no, it's I saw the oil pressure gage.

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Speaker 5: Okay, you have a gate and it was no, I.

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Speaker 6: Mean it was valve right right, Okay, So I did

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Speaker 6: a put oil in the oil filter, and I took

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Speaker 6: the oil filter off. There's no oil in it. So

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Speaker 6: I went and quickly dropped the oil pan and I

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Speaker 6: put it in the oil and spun it over and

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Speaker 6: it didn't squirt. My old oil pump that I took

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Speaker 6: out the old engine, put it in there, squirt it.

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Speaker 6: Put that in, started up and it was running around

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Speaker 6: sixty pounds of oil pressure. But I did, I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: I did order a new oil pump.

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Speaker 2: Well, the question I've got is because didn't you purchase

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Speaker 2: this engine the last time.

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Speaker 6: We talked, Yeah, I've bought it used and.

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Speaker 2: They said that they test started test drove the engine

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Speaker 2: right right.

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Speaker 6: And what gets me is is I did take the

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 6: So I did have the thing running for about twenty

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Speaker 6: it's fast with that old oil pump. And what's your suggestion.

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Speaker 2: Well, my concern becomes when did that oil pump that

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: Did it go bed sitting on the on the pallette

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Speaker 2: out of a boneyard. You know, When did that oil

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Speaker 2: pump go south?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You know, I think I would probably be inclined. You know, listen,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna go one of two ways. You're gonna call

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Speaker 2: tell you if sorry warranties up at the very least,

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Speaker 2: you're going to drop the oil pin back down again.

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Speaker 2: And I probably pull either a I probably pull one

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Speaker 2: look at a bearing and you know, you start to

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Speaker 2: see copper, You start to see where. Well, then you've

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Speaker 2: it now. But the problem becomes you're not just going

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Speaker 6: The motor, right, But my question is that also is

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Speaker 6: that was this oil pump. But I'm getting a very

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Speaker 6: faint smell of like rotten eggs at the exhaust. Now

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Speaker 6: the old engine was going through oil. Oh god, it

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Speaker 6: must have been seven eight hundred miles to a quart

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Speaker 6: of oil. Right, there's a catalytic converter doing it.

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Speaker 2: Thing, I would say, so the fact that it smells

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Speaker 5: It's gotten hot enough.

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Speaker 2: And I would probably wait to pass judgment on that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let things sort of settle in.

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Speaker 6: Okay. One quick question. These engine oil flushes that you're

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Speaker 6: And how all that car and gets in there? And

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Speaker 6: sometimes it'll block.

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Speaker 2: Off the holes drilled well oil flushes, which I'm not

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Speaker 2: I think there. I'm just not a fan of it.

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Speaker 2: I think if you, I think, if you do proper

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Speaker 5: And I'm not. I haven't seen enough information.

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Speaker 2: And to me, the engine oil flush is actually cleaning

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Speaker 2: if you've got something to clean, you didn't do proper

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Speaker 2: oil changes, and you've got you've got bigger problems.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 2: You know, when they do do those flushes, it's basically

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Speaker 2: they're running a chemical. My understanding of it is they're

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Speaker 2: just running a chemical through the oil galleys under pressure. Underload,

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Speaker 2: similar to how the engine pumps oil through the engine.

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Speaker 2: So if oil is going to splash on the area

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Speaker 2: that you're discussing, it's exactly what's going to happen in

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Speaker 2: a flush. So how well does it clean it? That's

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Speaker 2: part of my reason why I say, you know, how

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Speaker 6: Correct? All right? All right, okay, so I'll go ahead

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Speaker 6: to do that. Then, as I said tuesday, I'll be

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Speaker 6: getting the oil pump, and now I got the set

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Speaker 2: Keep in mind, though, if the rods and mains show

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Speaker 2: rest of the engine as well, because everything.

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Speaker 5: Starved for oil. So when did that oil pump go south?

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Speaker 5: That's the question.

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Speaker 2: That's why i'd probably get on the phone with the

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Speaker 6: Okay, all right, Bob, all right, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Take good care. I'm running any in the card doctor.

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Speaker 2: I'll be back right after this. Welcome back, run an

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Speaker 2: Adie in the cardoct Let's get over and talk to

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Speaker 2: Mike Staten Island, New York. Yes, Mike, how can I

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Speaker 2: help you in your Toyota camera?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 5: You're welcome.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I have a question about filters. I'm gonna I

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Speaker 1: am coming on twenty two thousand miles on the camera

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Speaker 1: and I want to change the air filter and the

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Speaker 1: cabin filter. And they say thirty thousand. But the last

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Speaker 5: If enough is good, more is better? Too much is

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I figured twenty thousands, though, twenty two thousands. Now

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Speaker 1: here's the problem on my air filter. Used to have

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Speaker 1: able to lift the h the air box, yeah, box right,

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Speaker 1: and now there are no clips there, you know, And

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Speaker 1: I think there were, you know, bolts in there or something.

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Speaker 5: Probably bolts together, yep.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So take the bolts out and pull it straight up.

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Speaker 5: Right, and you might have to undo the duck. Is

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Speaker 5: this a three liter Camra the V six no foor cylinder.

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Speaker 2: You might have to undo the clamps that hold the

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Speaker 2: duck to the throat mottle body, and then it's just

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Speaker 2: a matter of unbolting and lifting out.

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Speaker 1: So I have to undo the clamps and just put

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Speaker 5: It it's not rocket science, Mike.

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Speaker 2: If you've done it before, believe me, it'll it'll become

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, my main question now is the Toyota air filters.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're very expensive and pure related as you know,

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Speaker 1: is I want to know they're just as good as

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Speaker 1: the Toyota pair.

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Speaker 2: Depends on the quality and great level of the purrelator

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Speaker 2: of any aftermarket air filter you know, Listen, I can

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Speaker 2: say that there are you know, two different levels of

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Speaker 2: wis there are two different levels of hastings. We don't

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Speaker 2: use purelator in the shop, we don't have a distributor,

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Speaker 2: but I'm fairly certain there are two different levels of that.

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Speaker 2: The concern becomes that when you're putting an air filter

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Speaker 2: do the most inexpensive one. You want something that's going

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Speaker 2: to last. And here's the reason why the cheaper filters,

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Speaker 2: And what happens is the filter element that cotton, the

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Speaker 2: get wrapped up around the mass airflow sensor. So what

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Speaker 2: happens is over time that filter that you're trying to

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Speaker 5: If that's the case, then.

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Speaker 2: That lesser quality filter starts to fall to pieces. And

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Speaker 2: I've seen it time and time again. Put a mass

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Speaker 2: airflow sensor in a car, we'll find that there is

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Speaker 2: and give information to the PCM. It will come up

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Speaker 2: actually cause the vehicle check engine light to come on,

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Speaker 2: and all sorts of other issues. I've actually had some

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Speaker 2: the mass airflow sensor. You throw the mass airflow sensor

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Speaker 2: out and you replace it, and they're not cheap.

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Speaker 1: One other question with the cabin filter YEP, I had

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Speaker 1: a two thousand and two camera, and I took out

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Speaker 1: the glove box right, but the new cabin filter in

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Speaker 1: there and the shockups over fell out. So I'm driving

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Speaker 1: around with the bottom lid of the glove box that

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Speaker 1: you know was very heavy, went down. It seems to

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Speaker 1: be almost impossible to get that checkups over back in.

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Speaker 2: Haven't noticed that as a problem. Take it to a mechanic.

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Speaker 2: Let them look at it. That shouldn't be a big issue.

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Speaker 2: That should clip into place and just collapse and put

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, thank you, You're.

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Speaker 5: Welcome, Mike. I'm Ronning, Ny and the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back to wrap it up right after this.

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Speaker 5: Listen list welcome back, ron Nandey and the car Doctor.

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Speaker 2: Let's govern do a direct reply to Ronald and Brookhaven, Mississippi,

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety two Buick Roadmaster.

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Speaker 5: Hey Ronald, how can I help you in my closing warnings? Yester?

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Speaker 3: Good morning? How you doing?

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Speaker 5: Good sir?

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Speaker 3: Look, I have a nineteen ninety two road Master and

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Speaker 3: I'm having a problem with the air condition. All right

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Speaker 3: when I am trying to know auto with the maximum

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Speaker 3: cooling level, it will as long as I'm parked just

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Speaker 3: getting in the car, and why it's in the park

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Speaker 3: or whatever. He'll go on there. If I hit the

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Speaker 3: econno when I first cut along, hit the'conno and air

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Speaker 3: come on. But if I hit the econno button, he'll

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Speaker 3: go to auto and he'll cool. But if I'm driving

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Speaker 3: and he'll twitch it back over to econo, it won't

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Speaker 3: go back to auto. And then I had to pull

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Speaker 3: then hit the condo button again, and here to go

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Speaker 3: back to auto. That's the only way here to go

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Speaker 3: to auto.

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Speaker 5: Okay, let me ask you this question.

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Speaker 2: Have you verified that the system has enough refrigerant in it?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I had it checked quiet, and I had it,

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Speaker 3: you know, drained down and checked. I had it drained

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Speaker 3: down and recharged until you had changed their little sensor

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Speaker 3: on the back of the compressor. I thought that took

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Speaker 3: some atitude, and that might been what it.

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Speaker 2: Was, because what happens with that vehicle is when it

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Speaker 2: runs low on refrigerant, the computer will put it in

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Speaker 2: a default mode and will not allow.

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Speaker 5: The compressor to engage.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so now the issue becomes and there's more than

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Speaker 2: one switch on this system that tells you system values

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Speaker 2: as far as refrigerant levels. Now you've got to be

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Speaker 2: concerned with, is one of the switches erroneously reporting information

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Speaker 2: that it's low when it's not. And then if that's okay,

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Speaker 2: is the control goal headed fault. So somebody's got to

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Speaker 2: get into doing some pin testing on the control head

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Speaker 2: to be sure that it's getting proper power and ground.

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Speaker 2: And then from there we can have a PCM and

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Speaker 2: the relay conversation. Do the first two things. First, call

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Speaker 2: me back next week. I'm running AD in the car

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Speaker 2: doctor till the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.

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Speaker 5: See you