1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast, The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: Sitting in for Clay and Buck today syndicated radio personality 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: Michael Perry. 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: When you watch presidential debates or you see political commentary 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 2: about presidential campaigns or any other campaign, they talk in 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: a way it's so unlike how we actually exchange ideas 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 2: about the governance of this country, and it's sort of 9 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: the you know, you have bedroom talk and then you 10 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: have public talk. You have things you say in public, 11 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: and when you're at home, when the doors are closed, 12 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: the things you really say. And I think the charm 13 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: of all in the family was that Archie Bunker was 14 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: this kind of grumpy guy came home tired from work 15 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: and the world was changing around him, and you got 16 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: a window into a guy's soul, and you kind of 17 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 2: liked him, even if you didn't agree with everything he said. 18 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: Everybody sort of liked him because he was real, he 19 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: was authentic, and this wasn't what we saw in the 20 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: way families were portrayed. And then you had sort of 21 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: a whole genre of more realistic, authentic, if somewhat contrived 22 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: television programs of that era, which for me is the 23 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: golden era of television programming. All in the family, good Times, 24 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: the Waltons, those sorts of things that to me is, 25 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: if not always wholesome, then very engaging and compelling. So 26 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: I say all that to say, the way we talk 27 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: in private doesn't get a public airing, but it's how 28 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: things are actually discussed, and it's how we engage. So 29 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 2: I was searching around last night, looking at various posts 30 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: about various subjects, just to sense a mood in things. 31 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: And if you're not on Twitter, there's no reason for 32 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: you to be. It's kind of what television used to 33 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: be called the vast Wastelands. It's mostly a place people 34 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: go to say that other people are stupid or ugly 35 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: or slutty or whatever else. And my guy's great and 36 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: your guy's terrible, and everyone else is horrible and my 37 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: person's good, and look at me, and all of you 38 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 2: are terrible. It's not a real redeeming thing. But for 39 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: what I do, it's interesting because I can get individual, 40 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: direct commentary from people who may not be famous, but 41 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: that makes their commentary almost more valuable because they're not 42 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 2: positioning themselves. They're not trying to be true to a brain. 43 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,399 Speaker 2: They're simply stating their beliefs that they feel at the time, 44 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: and they may have had a cocktailer to at the time, 45 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: and that really loosens their lips. So I don't know 46 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: what time of day it was, and I don't know 47 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: if any of that was true. But if you don't, 48 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: if you follow someone, then you see what they post, 49 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 2: and otherwise you sort of randomly come across things. That's 50 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: Twitter one oh one for those of you not on Twitter, 51 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 2: the rest of you, it's a little below your pay grade, 52 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: but here we go. So I come across a post 53 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: by a woman I don't know, and she posts under 54 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: the name tiff mood Nukes. Tiff mood Nukes. It's always 55 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: goofy to call out Twitter handles on radio because it 56 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: sounds so odd and it's never anybody's real name. But 57 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: her profile picture is a black woman with sunglasses on. 58 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: She's pretty attractive, and my guess is she's probably late thirties. 59 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: That's all I know about her at this point. But 60 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: I read what she had to say, and I stopped 61 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: and thought about it, and I printed it out, came 62 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: back about an hour later, and I got up this 63 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: morning to start preparing for the show again, and I 64 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: had put this at the top of my prep and 65 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: I had a conversation with my boys about it before 66 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 2: they left for the day. I had a conversation with 67 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: my wife about it, and I want to share it 68 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: with you because it is a very real and raw 69 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: conversation that a woman has with She calls him cause 70 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: I presume it's probably her cousin, and well, let me 71 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 2: get to it, okay. And there's a few words here 72 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: that she uses that I can't for obvious reasons, but 73 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: you'll you'll figure out what those are. And she posts again. 74 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: I have no context of who she is, but she posts. 75 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: Christmas Dinner was fun till we got on the subject 76 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:55,799 Speaker 2: of politics. My cousin is a diehard Democrat. She's voting 77 00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: Biden and hates Trump with such fervor. She says, quote, 78 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: I'd rather see Biden in a wheelchair on an IV 79 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 2: drip than have Trump back in office. I said, so, 80 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: you know Obama's really running stuff. Huh. My cousin says, girl, 81 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: what I say that in word in charge? And MF 82 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 2: Biden is senile af one fall away from a nursing 83 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: home and NBC spilled the tea that Obama's running all 84 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 2: this stuff. My cousin says, well, good, I love me 85 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: some Obama. He should be president forever. Crickets at the 86 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 2: dinner table. I say so, a dictatorship good for you, 87 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: like third world communist countries with rights only corrupt government 88 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: gives you. My cousin says, all hail, No, she spells 89 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: it out. I say that's where we're headed. Cauz, Oh, 90 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 2: what policies of Trumps do you disagree with? That has 91 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: had a negative impact on our economy, our black communities 92 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: and geopolitical relations to cause this much hatred? Needless to say, 93 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 2: she couldn't think of one all emotion. We have our 94 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: work cut out for us because way too many vote. 95 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 2: Like my cousin, I want to spend a few minutes 96 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: on this little comment, serious comments, and I want to 97 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 2: start at the back, at the end and work forward. 98 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: She asks her cousin, presumably a black woman, and she's 99 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 2: a black woman. She says, what policies of Trumps do 100 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 2: you disagree agree with? That has had a negative impact 101 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: on our economy, our black communities and geopolitical relations to 102 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: cause this much hatred, and of course, as she says, 103 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 2: her cousin couldn't give one all emotion. What a powerful 104 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: thing when you can turn people, not just black people, 105 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: not just young people, when you can turn people against 106 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: their own family members, worse, when you can turn people 107 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 2: against their own best interests, because you can convince them 108 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: that some other person is so evil that, no matter what, 109 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: cut off your nose, despite your face, no matter what, 110 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: destroy that person, even if you have to destroy yourself 111 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 2: in the process, even if you have to fail to 112 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: improve your own life in the process of drowning them. 113 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: And that's what's happened. It's called othering. When you study genocides, 114 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: for instance, and we talk a lot about Nazi Germany, 115 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: it's very easy to people go to it quickly because 116 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 2: everybody has studied it, so there's kind of a common 117 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 2: currency as to what the Holocaust was. But it's also 118 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: a great example because this wasn't a series of tribes 119 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 2: who'd been at war. This wasn't the middle of a 120 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 2: civil war the way we've seen in Africa or Asia, 121 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:50,599 Speaker 2: to a lesser extent, South America. Germany was as advanced 122 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: a society as the world had ever seen a pinnacle 123 00:08:54,679 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: of culture, literature, commerce, you know, up and in the 124 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 2: late sixties you had to study German to get a PhD. 125 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 2: In the United States. German had Germany was so well 126 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 2: regarded as a nation and the people as a people. 127 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 2: The fact that it could happen in that country makes 128 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: it ten times more horrifying, just absolutely horrifying. So how 129 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: did it happen? And that's where the idea of other 130 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 2: ring comes in. That's where the idea is, how could 131 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 2: you make Jews the most horrible people in the history 132 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: of mankind? You didn't have to, and they didn't. What 133 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 2: they did instead is to say, whatever shortcoming you have 134 00:09:52,160 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: in your own life, whatever insecurity, whatever failing, whatever disappoint 135 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 2: and everybody has these, everybody has these, whatever those are 136 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: for you, that guy over there is the reason for it, 137 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: and he has to be destroyed. That's how you vent, 138 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: That's how you release all of the frustration. And even 139 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 2: if you can't give a name to it, if you 140 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 2: can't give a thought to it. That's what's been done 141 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: in this country. And it's not just Trump, it's Republicans, 142 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 2: it's Maga. You see these stories online, they videos where 143 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: some person walks into a water burger and they sit 144 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: down and they're wearing a red Maga cap, and they'll 145 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: be surrounded by people who'll knock the cap off, throw 146 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: cokes on them, punch them, hit them, beat them. Why 147 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 2: make America great again? Is that? But that cap represents 148 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 2: everything that is evil that I am committed to fighting racism, sexism, 149 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 2: every ism, burning the earth down with climate change. It's 150 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: not just Trump. It's an effective tool for the manipulation 151 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 2: and movement of masses to do what you need them 152 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: to do. And it's working. It's working so well that 153 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: it happened at that dinner table. That is as raw 154 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 2: and authentic a conversation as you will hear, and it's 155 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: worth further study. We'll talk about that. I'm Michael Berry 156 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: and for Clay and Buck all Week coming. 157 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: Up Keeping it Real, Keeping it Honest, Clay Travis and 158 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton. 159 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 2: Michael Berry and for Klay and Buck all Week. I 160 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 2: want to go back to this post put up by 161 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: a woman I don't know, and it really doesn't matter 162 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: that I do. I will assume that this is an 163 00:11:55,880 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 2: authentic conversation that she relayed as she perceived it. I 164 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 2: think these conversations happen across the country over Christmas tables. 165 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 2: I want to go to the beginning of her statement 166 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: where she says Christmas dinner was fun till we got 167 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 2: on the subject of politics. And again, she's a black woman, 168 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: and I'm assuming her cousin is a black woman. My 169 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 2: cousin is a diehard Democrat. She's voting Biden and hates 170 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: Trump with such fervor. She says quote, I'd rather see 171 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 2: Biden in a wheelchair on an ivy drip than have 172 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 2: Trump back in office. When you get to that point, 173 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 2: which I have to tell you I appreciate, I wish 174 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 2: everybody would just be honest, completely unadulterated candor, because we 175 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: waste a lot of time arguing over things that are 176 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: simply not true. For instance, you've got white liberals arguing 177 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: in favor of criminal justice reform, and they talk about 178 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 2: fairness and poor defendants and these people who are accused 179 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 2: and they're really innocent and they didn't do anything wrong. 180 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 2: But when you really boil it down, if a black 181 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 2: man walks across the parking lot and shoots a white man, 182 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 2: especially a white Republican man, turns around and walks off. 183 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 2: We've got it on camera. The footage is perfect, We've 184 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 2: got five eyewitnesses, and the guy confesses to it without 185 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: any coercion. That same group of people that told you 186 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: criminal justice reform was based on the idea that these guys, 187 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: most of these guys are just poor. They never had 188 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 2: a chance, they didn't do anything wrong. Actually, that same 189 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 2: group of people would tell you would then flip the argument. 190 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: Once you've got them dead to rights, he he did it, 191 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 2: Then they would say, yeah, but you don't understand that 192 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 2: guy never had a chance. He didn't know his daddy, 193 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: his mom was struggling, he lived in an apartment, he 194 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 2: went to a bad school. Maybe he was sexually abused, 195 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 2: he was picked on, he wasn't very big, he was poor, 196 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 2: he was on food stamps. He never really had a chance. 197 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 2: He has dyslexia, he has anxiety, he's very frustrated. Okay, 198 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: so what you're really saying is the criminal justice reform 199 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: is not about fairness in the system. Criminal justice reform 200 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: is actually about there not being consequences for certain people 201 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: who you choose. If they actually said that up front, 202 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: you'd stop wasting all your energy. But they don't because 203 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 2: then they'd lose too many arguments. So when we go 204 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 2: back to this, when her cousin says to her, I'd 205 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: rather see Biden in a wheelchair on an IV drip 206 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: than have Trump back in office, at that moment, you 207 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 2: have to realize that all of the energy you're spending 208 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 2: saying you do realize Biden's poop in his pants most 209 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 2: of the time, right, You do realize that that Biden 210 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 2: is in such mental decline that sometimes he doesn't know 211 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: where he is. Right, Hey, look at Biden. Here he's 212 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 2: mumbling in his speech. Here's here's Biden falling down. When 213 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: they argue back that no, no, he's better off than Fetterman. No, no, no, 214 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 2: he's not into that's not They don't care. And once 215 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 2: you begin to understand that, you realize there's probably not 216 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 2: a lot of common ground. You're not going to convince 217 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 2: that person Trump's done nothing to them. There's no policy 218 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: of Trump's that hurt them. That person's in a cult, 219 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 2: that person has a diminished capacity to see the truth, 220 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: and you're never going to fix them. I appreciate her 221 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 2: cousin being so honest. So the question is what do 222 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 2: we do Because it's not just Trump. It's Republicans at 223 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: every office. It's at every level. It's why people vote 224 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: straight Democrat, whether they be white Liberal or black Democrat. 225 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: It's why they vote straight Democrat. They're never actually voting 226 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: for their candidates. They don't like Sila Jackson Lee. They 227 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: liked Barack Obama, they don't like Hillary Clinton, they don't 228 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: like Joe Biden. They know they're idiots, they know they're corrupt. 229 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: They don't care. They've been taught to hate the other side. 230 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: Once you understand that, you focus your energy not on 231 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: winning them over, but getting your voters to vote. Michael 232 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: barrymore coming. 233 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: Up, Slay Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines 234 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: of Truth. 235 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: I have read every single email you have sent me 236 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 2: since we started guest posting on Tuesday of this week. 237 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 2: It is a lot. I haven't responded to them all 238 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 2: but as many as I could. But I did read 239 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: them all, and I continue to. You can email me 240 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 2: directly through our website at Michael Berryshow dot com. I'll 241 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: be with you today and tomorrow, and I believe Clay 242 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 2: and Buck are back shortly after that, but I'm not 243 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 2: certain on that. I think so before we get to 244 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 2: bury in Virginia if you just joined us. I read 245 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 2: a post I saw on Twitter of a woman who 246 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 2: posts a lot from a black woman's perspective, who is 247 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 2: not a person who is convinced by the arguments that 248 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 2: black people are beaten down or reparations or need to 249 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 2: feel sorry for themselves. Quite the opposite, Quite an independent woman. 250 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: From all I can tell of her posts, but she 251 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 2: makes the point by quoting her cousin at the Christmas 252 00:17:55,200 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: table that her cousin doesn't care if Biden's in a wheelchair, 253 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 2: on an ivy drip, or senile, or falling down, or 254 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 2: in a nursing home, or demented or in a coma. 255 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 2: Her cousin does not matter anything to keep Trump from 256 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 2: being president. I get that there are people that don't 257 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 2: like Donald Trump. I don't like Joe Biden. I didn't 258 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: like Barack Obama. But imagine getting to the point that 259 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: you really don't care what happens to this country. You 260 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: really don't care if the presidency is sold. You don't 261 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 2: care how much Joe Biden makes by using his good 262 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 2: for nothing, drug addicted idiot son to sell out to 263 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: foreign countries. You don't care if China owns this country. 264 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: You don't care if Ukraine takes every last penny we have. 265 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 2: You don't care if our boys are sent to war. 266 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 2: You really don't care. You just hate Trump that much. 267 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: That is a very powerful sigh. Oh, that is a 268 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: level of mind control that, aside from being frightening and 269 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 2: horrifying and frustrating. Because everybody gets a vote, some people 270 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 2: may get more than one. Aside from all of those things, 271 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 2: you have to marvel. You have to marvel at the 272 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 2: ability to do that to people when you think about 273 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 2: you think about how people can be controlled in this 274 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 2: manner and not even realize that's what's happening. That people 275 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 2: are walking around like an automaton that has been programmed. 276 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: You know, you'd see those people during COVID and they'd 277 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 2: have their mask on and their eyes would be bugged out. 278 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: Maybe they'd have a mask on top of a mask 279 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 2: on top of a mask, and they have been told 280 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 2: to be very afraid, to be very afraid. I'm scared 281 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 2: them all around scared, and boy they were. They We 282 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 2: were ready to lurch at anyone who wasn't wearing their 283 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: mask or staying six feet away. That one still gets 284 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 2: me six feet away and you know what, and the 285 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 2: oceans are full of plastic straws. It's amazing. You can 286 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 2: really pull some stuff over on people. But it's that 287 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 2: same group, but it's that same mindset. It's not just 288 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 2: that they're wrong, it's that they are so committed to 289 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: their views. It's a great Ronald Reagan line on that. 290 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 2: And we'll talk more about that, and we'll talk about 291 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 2: coach Sark of the University of Texas that's playing Washington 292 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 2: on Monday and nothing to do with football, how inspiring 293 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 2: his story is, and that this is the sort of 294 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 2: thing we should be teaching young people because we're all 295 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 2: going to fall down at some point. Let's start with 296 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 2: Barry in Virginia, eure Upe Berry. 297 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 3: Yes, so, thank you very much. 298 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 2: I'm honored. 299 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: I wanted to comment on this. I have a friend 300 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 3: across town in Body Noder's house, and he gave me 301 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 3: one of those yard signs, an Ultra magnia yard sign. 302 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 3: I said, great, I'd love to have it. I'm gonna 303 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 3: put it in front of my house. I said, why 304 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 3: don't you want it? He says, my wife won't let 305 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 3: me put it in front of our house. They're afraid 306 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 3: they're going to burn our house down. And I only 307 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 3: had one question for him, Well, what news station does 308 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 3: she listen to? She says, home and watches CNN and 309 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 3: in this, m this, NBC and NBC, And uh, that's 310 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 3: that's that's how they're controlling it. Uh. There was a 311 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 3: wise man in Greece that once said, what you believe 312 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 3: in depends on who you listen to. 313 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 2: That's that. That's like a monologue as a call. Berry 314 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: a plus for that for that. Uh, let's go to 315 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: Vince in Florida. You're up on the Claymbuck Show with 316 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 2: Michael Berry. Go ahead, Vince, Yeah him. 317 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 4: Michael, your opening segment really, uh really got to me. 318 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 4: You were talking about this ideology of hate Trump charring 319 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 4: family apart. Well before the twenty twenty election, one of 320 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 4: my brothers told me that if I vote for Trump again, 321 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 4: knowing what we know about Trump, to just delete his 322 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 4: information from my contacts. That we were no longer brothers 323 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 4: and in three years we haven't spoken, and that that 324 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 4: is a tragedy that was brought about by this whole 325 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 4: hey Trump cult. 326 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 2: You know, Vince, one of the things that has always 327 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: fascinated me is studying the families of murderers. 328 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 5: And if you. 329 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 2: Notice, almost one hundred of the time a mother will 330 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 2: stand by her son when he commits murder. And I 331 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 2: think that bond is so deep that child came out 332 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: of her womb. I mean you can she has raised 333 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 2: that child from from from infancy all the way. That's 334 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 2: a very, very so that awful thing, as awful a 335 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 2: thing as you can do on this earth. She will 336 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 2: still love him and never but she will go visit 337 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 2: him in prison. Does it mean she condones the action. 338 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: Do you think your brother would still speak to you 339 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 2: if you committed a murder and were in prison. 340 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 4: I think if I had committed a murder that we 341 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 4: would still be brothers. Yeah, but voting for Trump, we 342 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 4: are no longer brothers. 343 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: Well, Vince, here's what I'd tell you. Don't beat yourself 344 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 2: up over that, because I think that there is a 345 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: crucible effect to such exchanges and such moments. And by 346 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 2: the way, I think COVID will turn out for most 347 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 2: of us to have been a positive experience. In this way, 348 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 2: COVID didn't build character, it revealed character. COVID didn't make 349 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 2: people crazy, it revealed crazy because that crazy will always 350 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 2: be there. It always was and it always will. And 351 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 2: anyone who says, hey, I'm sorry Grandma that I didn't 352 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: come visit you during COVID, but I was really upset 353 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 2: because you wouldn't mask that doesn't go away. You see, 354 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 2: it's in moments of fear that our true character is revealed. 355 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 2: That's why you have to have constitutional protections against government overreach, 356 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 2: for instance. And the Left will always say, well, we 357 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 2: wouldn't normally have this overreach, but we have to have 358 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 2: this overreach because these are crazy times. We have to 359 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 2: suspend the writ of habeas corpus, because these are crazy times. 360 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 2: We have to do this to you, because we're at war. 361 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 2: We have to do this to you because of COVID. 362 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 2: We have to do this to you because crime has 363 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 2: no The constitutional protections we have against government incursion into 364 00:24:55,880 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 2: private liberty do not exist despite the bad times. They 365 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 2: exist because of the bad times. Government doesn't need to 366 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 2: impose and intrude during the good times. It's during the 367 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: bad time. You remember the old Barack Obama line, in 368 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: times of crisis, that's when you can do what you 369 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 2: otherwise couldn't. Look what they pulled off in COVID. I'll 370 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 2: give you another example. The Patriot Act. How many good, solid, 371 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 2: red blooded American voters and congressmen said, we're going to 372 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 2: pass this bill because terrorism. We wouldn't normally have all 373 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 2: these intrusions into your life, but we're going to do 374 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 2: it this time because terrorism. O Islama bin Laden wasn't 375 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 2: the first terrorist, and he won't be the last. This 376 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: wasn't the first threat to America's homeland, and it won't 377 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 2: be the last. You didn't need to spy on our 378 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 2: phone calls, our web searches, our bank transactions because of 379 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 2: Osama bin Laden. But a lot of people were scared. 380 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 2: And the idea was if if we're treating everybody like 381 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 2: Osama bin Lauden, we'll catch the next one. No, you won't. 382 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 2: You never do. Osama bin Laden was Osama bin Laden. 383 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 2: To quote Danny Green, he was who we thought he was, 384 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 2: exactly who we thought he was. It wasn't a surprise. 385 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 2: We could have stopped Osama bin Lauden dead in his 386 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: tracks back when he was on the African continent, when 387 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 2: he had first fled Saudi Arabia. I'm up against a 388 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 2: break here, uh, Henry and Alabama, you'll be up next. 389 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 2: One eight hundred two eight two two eight eight two. 390 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 2: You folks are good. I haven't even gonna have the 391 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,239 Speaker 2: phone number yet and you're already called him one eight 392 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 2: hundred two eight two two eight eight two. I'm Michael 393 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 2: Berry in for Clay and Buck all week more coming. 394 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: Up Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton Chuck up a win 395 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: for Team Reality. 396 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: I'm Michael Berry in for Clay and Buck and thankful 397 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 2: for those good folks for the opportunity to speak to 398 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 2: you for the week. Let's go now to the great 399 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 2: state of Alabama where Henry just waiting to talk. Henry, 400 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 2: You're on the Clay and Buck Show with Michael Berry. 401 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 2: Go ahead, my man, it's Mary. 402 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 6: Good morning. 403 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 5: It's still morning where I am. 404 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 6: Anyway, it's a pleasure to talk to you. I listened 405 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 6: to your Still quite frequently. I also listened to Clay 406 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 6: and Buck quite a lot. I've probably voted Republican more 407 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 6: so than Democrats. I am an independent. Let me tell 408 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 6: you where you're wrong. Now you brought I've never called 409 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 6: your Still, but I listened to your Still. There's a 410 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 6: lot of things that I agree with, and there are things. 411 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 5: That I don't agree with that you say. Same with 412 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 5: Clay and Buck. Same with Russell. 413 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 6: I listened to Rush practically every day all the way 414 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 6: up until he died. 415 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 5: But here's where you were wrong. You were saying that 416 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 5: when if. 417 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 6: A black man murdered a white man, that he wouldn't 418 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 6: be convicted, or there would be a lot of people 419 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 6: out there on the black side saying it's because he 420 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 6: was on welfare, because he's dad and all of that. 421 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 5: That's crap. 422 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 6: I'm telling you that that that's, in my opinion, that's 423 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 6: pretty much racist too. 424 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 5: Now listen to. 425 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 6: If twelve twelve black men or twelve black women was 426 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 6: on a jury with that same black defendant, they. 427 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 5: Would convict him. 428 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 6: They would convict him quicker than an all white jewelry 429 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 6: would convict a white. 430 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 4: Man doing a black. 431 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 6: Man the same way. Give me an example of something 432 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 6: else too. 433 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 5: Now, what's his name, George Floyd. He was a thug. 434 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 6: Now a lot of people will agree with that, then 435 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 6: there are people that won't agree with it. But regardless 436 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 6: of that, whatever he was, he didn't deserve to die 437 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,719 Speaker 6: by a trained. 438 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 5: White police officer. That's a fact. I'll tell you something else. 439 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 6: I'm a very very rich black man. I run I 440 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 6: run the I'm the sales manager of the only these stations. 441 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 6: I'm I'm the only black sales manager in the Birmingham market. 442 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 5: Now I tell you something else. 443 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 6: I go into some of the businesses being the sales manager, 444 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 6: and I'm clean cut. 445 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 5: I drive a Ferrari, I have two porches. I'm very 446 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 5: clean cut. I dress like a model every day. 447 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 6: There are businesses that I go in that are owned 448 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 6: by white But keep in mind, most of the businesses 449 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 6: here in my market are owned by white men, and 450 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 6: I get turned down sometimes. However, let me tell you 451 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 6: how smart I am. I have a very attractive white 452 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 6: woman and I will send her into the same business 453 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 6: that turned me down and he gets the account. Now, 454 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 6: like it or not, racism exists, and it's more so 455 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 6: on the white side than it then. 456 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 5: Than it is on the black side. 457 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 2: Not true, I'm telling you the deal. 458 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 5: Well, well you you can will agree to disagree because 459 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 5: it's the truth. 460 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 2: I well you know it's it's what you believe to 461 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 2: be the truth. But let me ask you what you said. 462 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 2: You're the salesman. What are you the sales manager of? 463 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 5: What? 464 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 2: What do you sell? What? 465 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 5: What is? You're right, You're right of a televisions. 466 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 6: Take and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna no, It's okay, 467 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 6: I do know, I'm just I'm just trying to see 468 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 6: what the product was. 469 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 2: Okay, Henry, you said a lot. I'm gonna hold you 470 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: for just a moment. I'm asking Mark to part you 471 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 2: down for saying let me answer some of those things, 472 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 2: because this is good, it's very healthy. I think, first 473 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 2: of all, I appreciate your willingness to be very candid 474 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 2: in what you say, but I also think you you 475 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 2: don't realize that we all come to every situation with 476 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 2: our own set of prejudices and our own set of biases, 477 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 2: and our own expectation as to why someone does what 478 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 2: they do. I know white people who will walk into 479 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 2: a fast food restaurant and if the person is like 480 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 2: bone queeque as expertly played by Angela Johnson and has 481 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 2: no time for them, or is on a cell phone 482 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 2: or whatever else, that that person is a racist against 483 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 2: white people. Well, actually, that same person would be harder 484 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 2: on a black person who comes in than they would 485 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 2: a white person. And that's also true at the DMV. 486 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 2: There are white people who believe that the person at 487 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 2: the DMV is so smug and so listless and so 488 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 2: downright rude to them while they're just trying to get 489 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: their their driver's license renewed, that it's because I'm white 490 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: and she's black. No, that person is that way to everybody, 491 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: because that person is lazy and sloppy, not managed or motivated. 492 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 2: Has nothing to do with me being white. But if 493 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 2: you're already looking for people to be that way, then 494 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 2: you believe that. And I think there are a lot 495 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 2: of people who are out looking for someone to have 496 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 2: a reason they didn't hire them, promote them, give them 497 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 2: the job, buy from them other than my failing or 498 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 2: that someone else. Because here's a deal. If three different 499 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 2: black sales managers are out trying to sell a product 500 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 2: to a white customer, two of the three aren't going 501 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 2: to get the sale. Those two can say, Huh, I 502 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 2: got to improve my product, I gotta target my potential 503 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 2: buyer better, I got to improve my price. I got 504 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,239 Speaker 2: to figure out what it was. Or those two can 505 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 2: simply say just done. Like black people, the problem is, 506 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 2: and I'm raising two black young men. If your first 507 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 2: reaction to everything is that the reason I didn't get 508 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 2: what I want is because I'm black, sometimes that'll be true, 509 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 2: but most of the time it won't. But one hundred 510 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 2: percent of the time, your life's going to be very, 511 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 2: very difficult, and that's sad because life's bigger than who 512 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 2: gets the sale and who didn't. And obviously you're proving 513 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 2: you're very successful at what you do. Enjoyed our chat, Henry. 514 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 2: I'm Michael Berry in for Clay and Buck, which I 515 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 2: will be all week and we'll take some more of 516 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 2: your calls coming up.