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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we got a super Bowl

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Speaker 1: preview in Week three. I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the

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Speaker 1: Chris Westleying podcast studio with a surprise Cynthia Freelan, who

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Speaker 1: clearly doesn't know that the Super Bowl this year is

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Speaker 1: going to feature your Detroit Lions and my Baltimore Ravens

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Speaker 1: because that was my super Bowl pick before the year,

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Speaker 1: with the Ravens winning unfortunately, and here we have it

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Speaker 1: in week three.

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Speaker 2: I think all Lions fans would take a trip to

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, even if it didn't result in a win.

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Speaker 2: It just be so exciting to finally make it to

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Speaker 2: the big game. I know that sounds anti climactic, but

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Speaker 2: I still think that people would take that.

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Speaker 1: I agree and in most fans, especially of teams that

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Speaker 1: haven't gone far often or haven't even been to a

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Speaker 1: super Bowl like the Lions, would always say that. Now

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Speaker 1: that said, you're laughing, I mean, it's just a fact.

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Speaker 1: I know that said in a couple of weeks and

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Speaker 1: everything leading up to it would be unforgettable. Would be

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Speaker 1: an incredible experience. I think that said, once you're there,

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Speaker 1: if they lose, that will actually feel and be worse

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Speaker 1: than any of the losses before that. Unfortunately, I think

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Speaker 1: that's how it works, It's how sports works.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I still think I'd take going.

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Speaker 4: I know you still would take it. You would take

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Speaker 4: a pain.

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Speaker 2: Then those T shirts that they said, yeah, you know

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Speaker 2: that they send away those T shirts for the like

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Speaker 2: somewhere the line in an alternate universal line instead of

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Speaker 2: have won according.

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Speaker 3: To a T shirt.

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Speaker 1: That's fair, and you nothing can take away the weeks

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Speaker 1: before in all the frames. Okay, we got a long

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Speaker 1: way to go, and I got my doubts about the

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Speaker 1: Wyons there. We make three picks every weekend, the three

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Speaker 1: against the spread. Back to back weeks, You've gone two

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Speaker 1: and one back to back weeks. I've gone one and two.

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Speaker 1: That stupid Bengals ending where the Jaguars blow it a

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Speaker 1: million times in the red zone late and then the

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Speaker 1: Bengals drive the whole length of the field not only

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Speaker 1: to win, you know, by three, but to win by

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Speaker 1: four and cover that number helped flip our scores. We

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Speaker 1: went head to head last week. But as you remember,

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Speaker 1: I remember I said I only liked four games last week.

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Speaker 1: You know I did have two underdogs, you know, winning

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Speaker 1: straight up there with the Falcons and the Seahawks, so

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Speaker 1: at least I had some that was on the right track.

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Speaker 1: So I'm counting myself as two and two, but we

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Speaker 1: can only count three for sure. And I was picking between,

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Speaker 1: you know, Atlanta and Seattle. So you're off to a

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Speaker 1: great start, and that's why we're going to start with you.

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Speaker 1: Because the Compewter model is off to a hot start

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Speaker 1: in game debut and in this studio this.

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Speaker 2: Year, it's possible that the model has started to become sentient.

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Speaker 2: I'm starting to worry. I have waking up at night

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Speaker 2: being like, is it gonna come kill me? What's going on?

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Speaker 2: But I have five outright wrong favored teams this week.

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Speaker 1: That's that makes picking well, maybe it makes a hard

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Speaker 1: picking which three you like best, but it singles it out.

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Speaker 4: I should have pointed out by the way you're winners.

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Speaker 1: Last week you also had the Patriots, and you were

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Speaker 1: wrong on the Broncos. I was wrong on the on

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Speaker 1: the Jets as well.

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Speaker 3: Okyrie, All right, well we got it all right.

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Speaker 2: So my first one, I think I'm stealing this one

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Speaker 2: from you, but I really like it. I absolutely think

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Speaker 2: the wrong team is favored in Chicago. The Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 2: come to town as one point dogs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, spright, I'm like, oh, oh, this.

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Speaker 3: Is what we're doing now, got it?

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go ahead and take them because I

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Speaker 2: have the Cowboys winning that outright, So against the number

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Speaker 2: or on their own not one of my.

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Speaker 3: Oh good feel it, I thought, maybe you were.

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Speaker 1: I did hit the Cowboys game. We agree on that.

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Speaker 1: One man. Watching Dak Prescott right now, I think is

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Speaker 1: as fun as watching any quarterback in the entire league.

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Speaker 1: And you think about that mismatch against Chicago, and that's

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Speaker 1: ultimately why I picked the Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: But these two teams are unpredicted.

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Speaker 1: I don't trust either one of them, and I definitely

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Speaker 1: don't trust the Cowboys defense that much. So that's why

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Speaker 1: I just didn't make it. Like one of my three favorite.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys defense has been giving up a bajillion yards and

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Speaker 2: we understand a bazillion points, like over thirty and four

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Speaker 2: hundred and fourteen something like that, something great, But if

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Speaker 2: you look at where they're giving it up, it's too

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Speaker 2: deep balls. Russell Wilson just gashed them with a bunch

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Speaker 2: of deep balls. That is an area out where Caleb

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Speaker 2: Williams has not been successful so far this season. So

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Speaker 2: I think the matchup for this defense is a plus

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Speaker 2: matchup plus Eberflus revenge.

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Speaker 3: He has to come back. I mean, I mean, well

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Speaker 3: there's always revenge.

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Speaker 2: But like you know, I'm looking at this one and

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, all right, it's the deep passing for me.

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Speaker 2: If you're really are you really gonna trust the run

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Speaker 3: We haven't really seen it now. It's Cowboys run game

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Speaker 3: looks great. That's right. They've been contacted behind the line

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Speaker 3: of scrimmage quite a bit. They're not getting a bunch

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Speaker 2: So model, I actually looked at this and I was like,

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised that I thought it would be a point

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Speaker 2: or maybe a pick of.

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Speaker 1: At least right it started out Bears. It might be

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Speaker 1: flipping around during the week a little bit. Well either way,

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Speaker 1: either way, you're taking the Cowboys. Yeah, that's right. I'm

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Speaker 1: going back to the Jets. You know, I want to

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Speaker 1: tell you you back to the Jets. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: back to the Jets against the Bucks.

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Speaker 4: Against the Bucks.

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Speaker 1: So I made maybe the worst pick in the history

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Speaker 1: of the show last week Jets Bills. I said they

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Speaker 1: would uh win straight up and they were what seven

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Speaker 1: point underdogs? Seven point underdogs again this week?

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you?

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Speaker 2: Are you taking them to win straight up? Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. There's seven point underdogs actually show game debut.

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Speaker 2: I think I am just for the the Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: if you're gonna take them, might as well.

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Speaker 1: Can I tell you about dollar cost averaging? You know,

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Speaker 1: like by the stock that's low?

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Speaker 3: You know, I feel so in a home right now.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: I blew it on on these Jets clearly, and I

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Speaker 1: liked them both weeks. They covered week one, they did

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Speaker 1: team that they showed last week. It was a very humbling,

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Speaker 1: uh game for me and the Jets. But I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at this specifically. I really do believe that the Bucks

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Speaker 1: should not be seven point favorites. Okay, since we last

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Speaker 1: taped an NFL Daily even, we learned Cody Mock there,

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Speaker 1: the guard for the Bucks, is out for the entire season.

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Speaker 1: We confirmed that Luke Getikey he doesn't have all his teeth,

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Speaker 1: Cody Mock, but they look the one really yeah, Luke

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Speaker 1: whether they're left tackle Tristan Wurfs is going to play

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Speaker 1: in this game. Amiica Abuka hasn't practiced so far this

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Speaker 1: week and was not looking one hundred percent. I'm a

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Speaker 1: little bit with the plexiglass kind of principle here with

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Speaker 1: both of these teams. I do think teams tend to

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Speaker 1: respond after a really poor performance. They're, you know, professionals,

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Speaker 1: and it's just the average. I think the average performance

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Speaker 1: and week two. And then you look at the Bucks Cynthia,

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Speaker 1: and if you peek beneath the numbers a little bit

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Speaker 1: like they actually their numbers haven't been great this year.

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Speaker 4: They're nineteenth overall.

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Speaker 1: In Dvoa, they were outplayed by the Falcons and kind

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Speaker 1: of stole that game away last week. You know, they

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Speaker 1: were a fourth and tent away. They're good, obviously, and

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna get better. But I'm not worried

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Speaker 1: about Tyrod Taylor. I don't think that's necessarily a downgrade.

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Speaker 1: It might, even for a one week, be an upgrade.

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Speaker 1: I'm not rule that out. And so seven points seems

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Speaker 4: I think these two teams will be closer than you think.

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Speaker 2: I'm actually aligned with you, and I think that I

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Speaker 2: think that the Bucks win. I don't think that they

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Speaker 2: win in a very super convincing fashion, right right, It

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Speaker 2: was big when before we knew about those injuries, it

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Speaker 2: was a much bigger margin. And I'm looking at the Jets,

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Speaker 2: and I agree with you that the average does tend

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Speaker 2: to come up over time.

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Speaker 3: My problem with the Jets overall.

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Speaker 2: Is that I haven't seen any of the foundations of

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Speaker 2: what they're trying to do come together on offense consistently.

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Speaker 2: So it's hard to say, Okay, are they going to

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Speaker 2: be a team that their identity is going to be

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Speaker 2: run the ball, pass to their tight end, like what's

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Speaker 2: going on here? And I just haven't seen it come

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Speaker 2: together in general yet. And I still haven't seen on

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Speaker 2: they're figuring everything out, But I just the offense feels

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Speaker 3: What am I looking in?

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Speaker 4: The defense isn't even a question Mark's just a hot mess.

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Speaker 1: It is a mess they are giving h They are

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Speaker 1: a lot of miscommunication a lot of that. But I

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Speaker 1: just think the the injuries, and I guess I do

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Speaker 1: have sure this week coming off of a game like that. Also, Tyrode,

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Speaker 1: when he's played in the last few years, he usually

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Speaker 1: has like one or two that's great performance when he

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Speaker 1: we're really in trouble. The injuries for the Buccaneers are significant. Also,

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Speaker 1: the New Jersey to Tampa pipeline for like retirees, is

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Speaker 1: very familiar, and so I think that somehow will give

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Speaker 1: the Jets just like a little bit of an advantage.

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Speaker 1: It's just a move that people from New Jersey, they're

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Speaker 1: comfortable going down south to Tampa.

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Speaker 4: So maybe a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Jets people will make the trip. Sure they just live there,

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Speaker 1: you know, great advantage.

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Speaker 4: I love that. All right, let's go to your second pick.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm going to keep it with the spicy

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Speaker 2: ones that are the wrong favorite, favored, that's not good whatever.

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Speaker 2: I think that the Textan's top the Jags.

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 1: I'm on your side too, Yeah you are. I mean

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Speaker 1: that's not one of my three picks, but I agree

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Speaker 1: with you. That was my pick on game debut.

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Speaker 2: Yes, wow, well we don't have to say anything fun.

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Speaker 2: We're wild well number one when I'm looking at So

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Speaker 2: when you look at CJ. Stroud and what they're trying

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Speaker 2: to run in this offense, it's a little patriotsy, which

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Speaker 2: I think they've figured out there need need to pivot

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Speaker 2: from just a bit given the skill set of c J.

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Speaker 2: Stroud and the lack of skill set from the offensive line.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying that nicely. The line hasn't been good. Let's

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Speaker 3: just say that. And I'm curious to see maybe Christian

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Speaker 3: Kirk comes back. Where are we at with that?

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Speaker 4: It looks good?

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Speaker 3: Right, So I haven't seen anything updated.

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Speaker 1: Out Brackston Barrios and Kristen kirkis less of a factor,

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Speaker 2: I actually think sometimes those tiny little differences are very

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at the uptick in passing quotient and that

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Speaker 3: News flash. Defense still really good. Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: There's I love the like like sort of fight Trevor

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Speaker 1: Like the yeah, well when he was on the sideline,

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Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence described it afterwards as like it's good. You know,

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Speaker 1: Know, even Keel laid back guy, and like Liam Cohen,

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Speaker 4: And it like he's like it kind of brings out

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like, well, we could use a little

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Speaker 2: And plus when you have I just also, at some

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Speaker 2: The end of that last game was messy against the Bengals,

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Speaker 2: as you pointed out, But I don't think they can

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Speaker 2: run it enough on the Texans to be able to

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Speaker 2: overcome that defense all of a sudden in one week,

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Speaker 2: all the books think, Hey, that defense stinks now, like

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Speaker 2: what what on earth? Like that's such an overreaction to

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Speaker 2: the mark in the market. So that's why I'm like,

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Speaker 2: what do we will Anderson Junior not there anymore?

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Speaker 1: I I like this pick. It's not one of my

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Speaker 1: top three. I think it's it's probably recognizing a couple

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Speaker 1: of things. One, the Jacksonville run game looks really good.

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Speaker 1: I think they I think they're a proof team. I

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Speaker 1: think they could be the seven seed, for instance in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially with the Bengals getting hurt, with Joe Burrow

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Speaker 2: getting hurt and all those other things up in Flux.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then the numbers, And it's partly because of the

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Speaker 1: matchups the Texas fan to face, you know, the Rams

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Speaker 1: and the Bucks blitzes back to back weeks and pass rushes,

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Speaker 1: and they have not looked good on offense. Their offensive

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Speaker 1: numbers are as bad or worse than they were a

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Speaker 1: year ago. So I I kind of see why it

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Speaker 1: would level it out. Nick Chubb a little bit, A

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Speaker 1: little bit, Nick.

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Speaker 3: Chubb starting to come back on baby, I.

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Speaker 1: Think we'll see some some woody marks some Nick Cubb,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. I also just think they really need

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Speaker 1: this game. And they've been in this system with Dimiko

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Speaker 1: Ryans a couple more years. They've won some big games,

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Speaker 1: two playoff games, right, And I think that helps. But

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't It wouldn't shock me if the Jags did

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Speaker 1: pull that off. Man that that I was watching that

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Speaker 1: and I was feeling good about it all last week

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Speaker 1: JAG's Bengals, and then right at the end.

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Speaker 2: I mean when Trevor Lord, when when Joe Burrow went down,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, well there, yeah, go.

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Speaker 4: And they were losing. They're actually were losing. I haven't

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Speaker 4: had that time.

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Speaker 2: Browning throws all the picks in the world, and then

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Speaker 2: they decide to blitz.

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Speaker 3: Don't blitz Jake Browning, what are you doing? This man

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Speaker 3: is great against the blitz. He's not good when you

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Speaker 3: don't blitz him. Look at his blitz.

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Speaker 2: This is why everyone needs analytics, you hear me, because

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Speaker 2: if you look at that, that that has been his

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Speaker 2: splitz forever, his under his under duress. Like his blitz

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Speaker 2: completion percentage in passer rating is like one twenty something.

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Speaker 3: It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 3: It's non blitzed one boo boom.

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Speaker 4: Not good.

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Speaker 3: No, that's when he throws his picks.

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Speaker 1: Little extra info for you, by which side of that

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Speaker 1: game are you on?

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Speaker 4: Vikings Bengals?

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Speaker 2: I think we're on the same side of that one too. Okay,

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Speaker 2: goal goal, let's go yeah, are you are you around.

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Speaker 3: What are you viking?

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Speaker 4: I don't feel strong about that one. I just was

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Speaker 4: throwing that out there.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about it in terms of the number

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Speaker 1: I would take the Bengals the points.

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Speaker 3: Okay. I just thought, okay, are you fair? Fair point?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 3: Rams, Oh, you're going right at it, baby.

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Speaker 4: Plus three and a half.

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Speaker 1: One of the most balanced teams so far in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams offense defense both look ready. I

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Speaker 1: look at the Eagles and as much continuity, I just

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Speaker 1: being there ready for the season in a way that

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Speaker 1: a lot of teams aren't.

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Speaker 4: You know, they're kind of I like it.

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Speaker 3: It just sounded funny. They're ready, They're.

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Speaker 4: Ready to pounce. This game is big. This game is big.

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Speaker 1: All the Rams have been honking about all off season

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Speaker 1: how close we were to the Eagles. They were sending

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Speaker 1: it out to I saw it in the season ticket

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Speaker 1: holder email that, like you know, we were, we were

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Speaker 1: only a few plays away from beating the eventual champions.

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Speaker 4: And it's true statement. That's not why I'm picking them.

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Speaker 1: I just look at who's playing better right now, and

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Speaker 1: the Kevin Batuloh Philadelphia Eagles offense just feels.

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Speaker 4: A little bit static.

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Speaker 1: I think the Eagles offense will get better throughout the

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Speaker 1: course of the season. I think their pass rush will

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Speaker 1: get better throughout the course of the season. Entering Week three,

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Speaker 1: it's been average their pass rush. The offense has been

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Speaker 1: Rams and I think they've come out firing.

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Speaker 4: DeVante.

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Speaker 1: Adams is such a big part of this offense. It

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Speaker 1: looks like Steve Avola, who's a starting guard for them,

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Speaker 1: might be back for this game. He's back at practice.

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Speaker 1: That's bit because they were missing two starters. That is

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Speaker 1: obviously worrisome for them. But man, Davante and Stafford are

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Speaker 1: so much fun to watch. I think year two Chris

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Speaker 1: Shula versus year one Kevin Patulo and kind of looking

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Speaker 1: at the fresh ideas mcveigh's got popping with Davante and everything,

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Speaker 1: I just feel like they're a little more ready ready,

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Speaker 1: a little ready, They're ready, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: A lot of seat I know we are. Are you

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Speaker 1: gonna make it one of your picks now? Because it's

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Speaker 1: not an underdog that I liked my theme today?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this isn't often that I get a theme.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's much better whenever you see a team

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Speaker 1: that you think is gonna win straight up like I

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Speaker 1: had with the Falcons and Seahawks last week for right,

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Speaker 1: since and they're underdogs, then you take them.

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Speaker 4: You love that, That's right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just gonna stick with my theme.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, the hook the three and a

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Speaker 1: half point hooked. You're always talking about that. It got

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Speaker 1: me again.

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Speaker 4: It did. It got me again, here with the here

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Speaker 4: with the Rams. But you know what, last week it

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Speaker 4: worked out. Actually in the two games, I ended up

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Speaker 4: being ran in those two. Give me your last pick.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so last, but not least. Are you ready for this?

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Speaker 4: Are you? I'm writing your pick?

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Speaker 1: Okay, perfect, So I don't forget them. The Patriots ooh,

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Speaker 1: I do agree with you on this, but I'm like

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Speaker 1: a little freaked out. Well it's also your team, like

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Speaker 1: you know, I know, but I'm often very negative. Last week,

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Speaker 1: I want to know part of Patriots Dolphins. You were

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Speaker 1: right on that one, But this one I like the matchup.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well the matchup matchups makes for fights, right, And

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Speaker 2: now you're getting a Drake may who I mean, he's

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Speaker 2: been playing very well. I think this is a Trevion

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Speaker 2: Henderson Breakoutum, I think we see that's really the kind

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Speaker 2: of last piece in this beginning season puzzle that needs

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Speaker 2: to come together.

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Speaker 3: It's all about the defensive front for me, though, did

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Speaker 3: I say that?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: Defensive front, deferentive front.

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Speaker 4: So they've played great so far.

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Speaker 2: Milton, guys like Milton, you know, guys like Harold. Like,

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Speaker 2: it's all these old names, old people names, Milton, Harold Orrin,

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Speaker 2: They're all great. You know how many Harolds do you know?

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Speaker 1: They have a Christian exactly, Klevon. That kind of goes

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Speaker 1: against your theory.

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Speaker 2: I still think as a percentage their defensive starters have

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Speaker 2: old names.

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Speaker 4: They do sound like they're from like the nineteen ten

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Speaker 4: good old.

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Speaker 3: Milton, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But when you're looking at a guy like Milton,

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Speaker 2: who's got I don't know, the second most wave two sacks,

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Speaker 2: like the second most pressures for defensive tackle, Like that's

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Speaker 2: a huge deal. And he's not even fully kind of

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Speaker 2: integrated into the Rabel system yet. Right, it's only been

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Speaker 2: two games. So I just think their defense is more

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Speaker 2: than what the is going on for the The old

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Speaker 2: line for the Steelers can handle. And we've seen these

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Speaker 2: short passes again from Aaron Rodgers. Everyone's like, he's good

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Speaker 2: to Aaron out this year, he's got to key Mickalf

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Speaker 2: he's gonna be MVP for him, And was.

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Speaker 3: Like, what if he's just mid.

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Speaker 2: That's okay to be mid, you know, like not not

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Speaker 2: mid for every human beag, but mid Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 4: That's not bad mid for an average NFL starting.

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Speaker 2: Course, that's right, Like, but not, I'm no one. You

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Speaker 2: can't expect him to do all these crazy, you know,

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Speaker 2: Rogers to Rogers passes anymore. Like, let's let's go with

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Speaker 2: what works, the shorter passes, and New England's really good

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Speaker 2: at defending those under ten are yard passes. So it's

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Speaker 2: just not matchups makes fights, man, and are we're getting

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Speaker 2: Christian Zalez back for goodness sake?

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Speaker 1: It sounds optimistic. He's been back at practice. Then again,

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Speaker 1: he didn't practice since late July, so I always think

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Speaker 1: that's a little weird too. And then you you're immediately

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Speaker 1: playing in a game five days later, so we will see.

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Speaker 1: I think he's massive for this game. So because you

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Speaker 1: mentioned the numbers are good on the short passes, I

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Speaker 1: agree the matchup helps them. They're by far their biggest

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Speaker 1: weakness as a team is the deep passes. They are

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Speaker 1: just getting bombed away. Like their defense is stunk this year. Really,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're one of the worst defense in the

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Speaker 1: league overall in terms of against the past. But if

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Speaker 1: you have Gonzales out there, he can match up with

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Speaker 1: DK Metcalf and then it's like who else do the

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Speaker 1: Steelers really have?

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm Oh, wait, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean the tight end, right, Johnny Smith, I guess, but.

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Speaker 4: Like Friarmouth, Matt Washington, Darne Washington, I mean.

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Speaker 2: But if you can't run, and like Jalen Warren, everyone's

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Speaker 2: calling Fantasy World being like this is the Jalen.

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Speaker 3: Warren breakout moment, blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I see it, because I think

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Speaker 2: that this is where this is like Rabelle teams are

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Speaker 2: like Belichick teams, right, they come together, they get the

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Speaker 2: defense gets better.

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Speaker 1: Right, I'm telling you, I love the Travion breakout.

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Speaker 3: Travion breakout is.

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Speaker 2: I just think at some point there's gonna be the

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Speaker 2: Josh McDaniels moment where he's like, let's just and the

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Speaker 2: Steelers defense has not looked like.

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Speaker 4: A Steeler Oh, they've they've been really bad.

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Speaker 3: So you tell me that swing pass to Travian's not

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Speaker 3: gonna work against that.

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Speaker 4: I was excited.

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Speaker 1: And you know, look, if you're if you're a daily

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Speaker 1: NFL daily listeners, which it was my favorite kind, not

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Speaker 1: just popping in for the recap or the preview or

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Speaker 1: what about the people. This one's doing big numbers. It's great,

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Speaker 1: so you get some extra info. Because after we taped

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Speaker 1: the preview episode. You know, I treated myself this morning

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Speaker 1: Stationary Bike watched a little All twenty two Uh Patriots,

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Speaker 1: which I hadn't gotten. Tokay, what a great game by

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Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels last week. Obviously the matchup helps a lot,

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Speaker 1: but I actually thought Travon Henderson was explosive and powerful there,

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Speaker 1: and it.

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Speaker 4: Looks really good.

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Speaker 1: The problem is his reputation was in past protection being

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Speaker 1: really good and he made a couple of mistakes there.

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Speaker 1: But other than that, I'm with you. I think I

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Speaker 1: think it's close, and their runblocking looks pretty good. Will

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Speaker 1: Campbell and the rest of the offensive line looked pretty good.

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Speaker 3: So old short arms out there.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, speaking of which I mean my arms

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Speaker 1: aren't too long either. I'm doing something I feel bad

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Speaker 1: about I'm going against the Lions as my third pick.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking the Ravens minus four and a half. I'm

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Speaker 1: really into the whole What time of year are we

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Speaker 1: playing the team who's going to be better later? I

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Speaker 1: think the Eagles, for instance, If this is Eagles hosting

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Speaker 1: the Rams, and you could tell me that just that

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Speaker 1: at games in December, I'm not taking the Rams plus

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Speaker 1: three and a half, just a sight unseen. I just

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a different game than same thing here.

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Speaker 1: I think the Lions defense is going to figure some

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Speaker 1: things out over the course of the season. Sure, I

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Speaker 1: just don't think they're going to be there yet. I

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Speaker 1: think the Ravens, on the other hand, you're two of

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Speaker 1: this defensive system, you're you know, three of the offensive system.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's enough pass rush. You give me

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Speaker 1: a team.

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Speaker 3: That as Marcus Davenport, yeah right, the problem.

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Speaker 1: He's hurt and him being like the only other guy

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Speaker 1: with Hutchinson going up against Lamar. Is this new Lions

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Speaker 1: offensive line ready to win a shootout?

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Speaker 4: It's in my head a little bit.

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Speaker 1: The last time they played a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: thirty eight to six Ravens over the year.

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Speaker 2: Then since the Lions have beat the Ravens, I do

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Speaker 2: ask twenty. That's crazy that they've only played five times.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's a little ticky tacking because they've only

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Speaker 2: played five times.

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Speaker 4: It also been aften here.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the first matchup means a little bit though, because

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Speaker 1: same coaching staffs. They know the coordinators are different for

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Speaker 1: the Lions and everything. But that was during a great

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Speaker 1: Lion season and they got waxed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's an alternate universe where they're still running against

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Speaker 2: the line right like it. They just keep running around

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Speaker 2: like the world like it.

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Speaker 1: They can make Jared Goff uncomfortable. And look, I'm convinced

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Speaker 1: that this is going to be an elite Lions offense.

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Speaker 1: That's why I have them in the Super Bowl, and

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Speaker 1: I think they can figure things out over the course

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Speaker 1: of the season. So when I say GoF uncomfortable, I

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Speaker 1: mean it's Matta Bike or Travis Jones or someone just

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Speaker 1: like one time getting one of those quick pressures interior rush.

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Speaker 1: GoF makes one mistake and then they're chasing the points

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Speaker 1: the whole game. I love points. I think it's like

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Speaker 1: forty one to thirty one. You know, I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's anything where the lines are embarrassed afterwards, like thirty

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Speaker 1: eight to six, or it's forty one to thirty four,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Or it's thirty seven to thirty.

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Speaker 1: Fans would take that too, would they losing? Yes, by

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Speaker 1: it don't look like an idiot. They just don't want

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Speaker 1: to be made to look like a fool, right, Like.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna be one and two if they don't win

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Speaker 4: this game. Okay, you want to win.

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Speaker 3: Everyone wants to win.

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Speaker 2: But but if you're winner, But if you're thinking about

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Speaker 2: it objectively from the Lions fandom standwich, I could stay

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Speaker 2: this because I am one when you're looking at the opportunity,

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Speaker 2: like you just don't want to get embarrassed. You don't

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Speaker 2: want to look like you don't belong on the field

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Speaker 2: with them, Like that's what happened last time. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was during a great season and it was later

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Speaker 2: in the season, so they had more you know, of

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Speaker 2: a cachet going into that game. And the same thing

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Speaker 2: happened last year in Houston, right the Texans game.

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Speaker 3: They looked awful. So there's gonna there's always one where

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Speaker 3: you look bad.

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Speaker 2: Well, but I think Lions fans, and you know, after

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Speaker 2: that Week one situation against the Packers, ain't.

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Speaker 3: Nobody want to lose the Packers in the NFC North.

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Speaker 2: So I think that there's as long as it's clothed,

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Speaker 2: no one's gonna.

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Speaker 3: Be like, oh they're right, they're garbage, throw them out,

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Speaker 3: blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: Like this, let's relax, like as long as it's not

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Speaker 1: to one sided like that Packers game. And I I say,

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Speaker 1: like the defensive performance against Chicago didn't convince me at all,

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Speaker 1: Like the pass rush really wasn't that much better? Caleb,

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Speaker 1: I actually thought looked decent in that game, Like I

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Speaker 1: think it was an okay performance, but I'm not shocked.

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Speaker 1: The liners looked okay, right right, and the line's offense

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Speaker 1: is gonna be great. So I think it's a high

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Speaker 1: scoring game before and a half points not enough for me.

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Speaker 1: I am going Ravens. And you know we do the extras, right,

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Speaker 1: I write down the act picks. How don't have any

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Speaker 1: this week? I only really like these three. I had

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Speaker 1: written four, like the fourth was the Titans as an underdog,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not even putting that as an official extra

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Speaker 1: pick because I just didn't have it. Maybe it's maybe

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Speaker 1: this two and four record to start is spooking me.

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Speaker 4: But I looked at I looked at.

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Speaker 1: The whole board, and I I just write down ones

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Speaker 1: that I like, and then I see, okay, which what

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Speaker 1: the stack is. And sometimes it's like two that I

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Speaker 1: really like, and then I have to force that. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: it's like seven this this week was just three. Last

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Speaker 1: week I went two and two on the extras. So

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Speaker 1: I think we have a winning record for the extras

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Speaker 1: for the season, and so that's good.

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Speaker 4: I think we're what.

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Speaker 3: That's how the extras roll though every time.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. I think we were what.

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Speaker 2: It's like your second shot in golf, right, your second

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Speaker 2: first shot, you know, like your mulligan those that's what

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Speaker 2: the box.

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Speaker 3: There's no pressure, you just hit it nice and easy.

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Speaker 1: It's true we got I think that's four and two

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Speaker 1: on the extra games.

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Speaker 4: But those are our three picks. I was back in

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Speaker 4: the day.

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Speaker 1: Nothing I liked better as a high school student than

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Speaker 1: working at a couple of different golf clubs and you

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Speaker 1: could just play for free afterwards. Just like a sixteen

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Speaker 1: seventeen year old version of myself and a joint and

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Speaker 1: a friend with a cart and nine holes at about

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Speaker 1: five pm on a there you go, summer afternoon. Forget

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Speaker 1: about it. That's it hasn't gotten any better since then.

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Speaker 1: That was pretty much the peak.

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Speaker 3: You peaked the peak early.

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Speaker 4: Everyone. Check out this show on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: If it's in your ears, you can see the professional

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Speaker 1: television work of sin just pointing in the camera and

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Speaker 1: telling them not to blitz Jake Browning. That's why she's

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Speaker 1: great on NFL Network and everything she does. And I'm

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Speaker 1: more of a podcaster. You can check her out on

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Speaker 1: Game Day morning on Sunday, and then more importantly check

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Speaker 1: out her YouTube numbers game and your show with Logan Ryan.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, if you like the picks here, she goes

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Speaker 1: through all the games on her YouTube channel.

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Speaker 4: So that's it.

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Speaker 1: Good luck to your lions next week and uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: you'll see us and hear us in your feed Sunday evening.

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Speaker 4: We are on till week three.

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Speaker 3: Is shop coming in?

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Speaker 4: Shuk's not coming in, but he's gonna be. He's gonna

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Speaker 4: be on the box.

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Speaker 3: We got we got Clay Bond just making sure.

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Speaker 4: We just did the Thursday night game. It's all shook

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Speaker 4: all the time. See US