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Speaker 2: Slowest steady is not what I'm made of.

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Speaker 3: I'm made out of fast and sloppy.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Sweet Wirl, and welcome to No Buffs, the

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Speaker 2: only Survivor podcast that is fast and sloppy. April sixteenth,

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Speaker 2: and we're recapping the tenth episode of Survivor Winners at War,

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Speaker 2: So watch out for you spoilers. I'm Jay Skeetz and

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Speaker 2: joining us here by the fire task Melice.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait to talk about this episode.

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Speaker 2: We got the Bearded One, Tray.

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Speaker 3: Kirby Heyo eBay Yo.

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Speaker 2: The international Man of mystery, taking it to the max.

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Speaker 2: Lee ellis friend a last but not least making the

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Speaker 2: magic happen. It's his favorite No Dunk's episode of the

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Speaker 2: week JD.

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Speaker 3: Hello, there he is and here we are.

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Speaker 2: Yes, this is gonna be a fun one to break

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Speaker 2: down here again here on no Buffs. We'll tackle it

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Speaker 2: again in chronological order. But the key takeaways right off

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Speaker 2: the jump Family first guys, Family means everything, Tyson's back

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Speaker 2: to the edge and Trey Kirby Now we're playing Survivor.

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Speaker 3: It's on baby.

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Speaker 2: That is right. We got some advantages being played. The

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Speaker 2: line was drawn in the sand and a wild and

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Speaker 2: wild vote there at tribal council. But let's start day

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Speaker 2: twenty four. You know the first scene of this episode,

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Speaker 2: it is time for the loved one's visit, And I

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Speaker 2: liked how the Survivor production team they sort of psyched

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Speaker 2: out the castaways a little bit by having the challenge

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Speaker 2: sitting there. But instead we get not only your significant

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Speaker 2: loved one, be it you know, a husband or a wife,

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Speaker 2: or a fiance or girlfriend, boy or whatever, but here

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Speaker 2: come the kids, a first in Survivor history. Tray will

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Speaker 2: start with you, which when were you crying? When did

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Speaker 2: the tears start flowing for you?

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Speaker 3: I was very happy to be prepped for this episode

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Speaker 3: because if they would have come out with kids and

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Speaker 3: I didn't know it going into it, I would have

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Speaker 3: been blubbering the entire loved Ones visit as it was

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Speaker 3: only cried twice Tony and Jeremy, because you know, their

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Speaker 3: both had young children who seem to be about the

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Speaker 3: same age as my kids, who are about the same

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Speaker 3: distance apart from their other kids. Those were the ones

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Speaker 3: that got me for sure. But then you know, I

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Speaker 3: was able to pull it all together when things ended

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Speaker 3: with a nice Fiji Airways plug, I was like, okay,

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Speaker 3: and the tears can stop precisely now. Thanks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I might count with the families. I'm not even

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Speaker 2: counting Edge of Extinction, which we'll get to with their

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Speaker 2: surprise loved Ones visit. They had fourteen kids out there

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Speaker 2: with the people still in the game. I mean it

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Speaker 2: was Survivor school, JD. This is a first in Survivor history.

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Speaker 2: Do you like the little wrinkle here for this big season,

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Speaker 4: I did not like it.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh listen. I made the mistake of watching it

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Speaker 4: with my family and I we are a family of monsters.

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Speaker 4: And as soon as it started, they didn't waste any time.

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Speaker 4: Which was a good thing because it was twenty one

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Speaker 4: reunions as well and my family. It was a roast fest.

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Speaker 4: Everybody was just roasting everyone who came on the screen.

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Speaker 2: What your kids were roasting the other kids on Survivor's screen.

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Speaker 4: Yep, goodness, haircuts. Denise's husband got the worst of it.

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Speaker 5: I'm surprised because you spent two months basically on the

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Speaker 1: What was wrong with Denise's husband? According to Lincoln and Jackson.

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Speaker 4: Lincoln's line was it was it as if Quentin Tarantino

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Speaker 4: Please.

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Speaker 3: That's a great line.

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Speaker 1: I actually think j D. I actually think he looks

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Speaker 1: like your friend who recently came and visited us this

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Speaker 1: past summer, who particip beat it in trivia.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Dave, Yeah, sure, Y yeah, a little bit there,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. The kids, Lincoln and Jackson have got

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Speaker 4: Oh oh?

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Speaker 2: I mean what about you Leeli, like were you did

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Tony when where Trey said it there as well?

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Speaker 2: One question I got for you guys, how.

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Speaker 5: Long are they away from their family at this point?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and and and when when they do these challenges

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Speaker 2: Time to do that? Yeah, there is so much just

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Speaker 2: And you're playing a game where you like can't really

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Speaker 5: The only the only part I didn't like was how

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Speaker 4: Jeremy was Jeremy jar That was definitely on purpose. He

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Speaker 4: I could see them sitting in a production meeting ordering

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Speaker 4: we gonna put Michelle? It's just her sister. It's just one.

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Speaker 3: You know, what we're supposed to do with this guy

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Speaker 3: that looks like Quentin Tarantino. Get him in so it

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Speaker 1: I was. I was wondering who was coming out for

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Speaker 4: Out hilarious, imagine.

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Speaker 1: What's up, guys, because her sister came, how's it going, babe?

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Speaker 2: Babe? Yeah, I leave like something that you're saying there.

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Speaker 2: I actually cry more over the other castaways reacting to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: They shouldn't have let their kids play with each other.

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Speaker 1: I think that was a mistake. I really heard each

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Speaker 2: So JD were you also upset? I guess, like you

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Speaker 2: basically usually for a reward to then see your family,

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Speaker 4: Your kids, I mean you can't. You can't tell a toddler. Oh,

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Speaker 2: And she's crying, she's bawling, like is she upset? Is

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Tony's kids were so upset seeing him like that,

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Speaker 3: But I will Laura said the exact same thing. She's like,

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Speaker 3: oh man, this will be so cruel if they're there

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Speaker 3: of Extinction and that's exactly what they did. They just

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Speaker 3: and then see you later.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: I thought, that's.

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Speaker 3: That's right. No introduction and no get to spend the

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Speaker 4: You know what, maybe if it was less than like

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Speaker 1: It was left right.

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Speaker 2: At least we got Jeff Probe's joke falling flat on

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Speaker 1: Dig in the scene.

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Speaker 2: It was even there, it felt like everyone's like, what, Jeff, Jeff.

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Speaker 4: There was also the when he when they're all sitting

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Speaker 4: I mean, well, we we got it, man, we got it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So after the commercial break, we then get

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Speaker 3: I was. I was with Ethan on that one. I

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Speaker 2: That would have been a gut punch, yeah, but no,

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Speaker 2: instead we got that I thought was such an incredible

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Speaker 2: That was such a cool shot, like you know, you

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Speaker 5: It has Natalie. It looked like she had an almost

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Speaker 2: I think that was her sister's child.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, right, so her twin sisters, right because Anti Nah, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I thought that. I thought that was weird if she

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Speaker 5: If you ask me, I'm going to get on my

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Speaker 2: And tell and tell her had a parent.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, no, if you've got a child under one,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: It was that way. Taysan's other kid wasn't there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it seemed like it. Yeah, I think so. I

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Speaker 1: A little known fact about the boat driver who dropped

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Speaker 1: as the guy in air Budi on twenty bucks. He

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Speaker 2: That would have been awesome. We could see Bud running

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Speaker 2: I had forgotten that she's married to another former Survivor contestant,

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Speaker 2: John Fincher, who was on Way Back Samoa. I think

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Speaker 2: back in the Russell Hands Days season nineteen. That's John Fincher.

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Speaker 2: He's a rocket scientist, if I remember correctly, Do you

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Speaker 4: Jad trent A vaguely, very vaguely.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I just went deep in the Wikipedia last night. I'm like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: He went really far. I remember in Samoa he got

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Speaker 2: I think to the final episode. I think he went

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Speaker 3: They're probably like, yeah, let's bring this idiot along. He

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, maybe. So they had their moments. There's a

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Speaker 2: lot of nice obviously encounters here, family encounters on Edge

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Speaker 2: of Extinction that was pretty cool, especially Boston Rob and Amber.

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Speaker 2: I thought for a second, and I'll be honest, I

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Speaker 2: thought maybe Amber would just be like, I'm leaving with you. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it crossed my mind.

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Speaker 4: I thought that of Yule as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I guess they're so close to

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Speaker 2: I guess, why wouldn't you have a crack at it?

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Speaker 2: Right of course, Yeah, which is what they're thinking about it.

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Speaker 2: It crossed my.

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Speaker 1: Mind, Well, you're talking about talking about people able to

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Speaker 2: Is that Hell, yeah you can. There's going to be

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Speaker 2: yeah he could. I mean, that's what doesn't he say

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Speaker 2: when he walks out? He says I'll see again soon

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Speaker 2: or something very very soon, very soon. Yeah. I just

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Speaker 2: butt shots. It was a side butt shot John Fincher

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Speaker 3: A sneaky one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're counting, definitely counts. We got a lot of

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Speaker 5: I mean, you don't need to be right there, you know,

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Speaker 5: give them some room. We don't need to see that we're.

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Speaker 1: Not watching Lee bring up the close shots after Adam

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Speaker 5: Yes, of course I do. Yeah, that was a beautiful moment,

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Speaker 2: Like I can relate to that.

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Speaker 5: You know, I've lost my own mum too, so you know,

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Speaker 5: You know, I wish him are the best and respect.

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Speaker 2: Him to do.

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Speaker 2: This happens, when this happens, it takes the character of

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Speaker 5: And see that's the funny thing for me, like because

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let's get to the nasty parts here. We're

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Speaker 2: of those ones we've seen it before. You got to

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Speaker 2: That actually caught me by surprise.

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Speaker 3: the blocks mouth? Arm? Other hand, there's a couple of

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00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 3: different ways you could go back. I definitely didn't think

440
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,280
Speaker 3: mouth was the way I would.

441
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 4: Go I know, right, that looks so awkward.

442
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,680
Speaker 5: Also just how you sort of set them up before

443
00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,480
Speaker 5: you even start, because you, yeah, you saw Tony, you know,

444
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,919
Speaker 5: blindly sort of feeling for that last block there, and

445
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 5: that's the thing. If you get to that point and

446
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,240
Speaker 5: you were almost out of reach of that last block,

447
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,159
Speaker 5: that must be just maddening. So I'm sort of surprised

448
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 5: there wasn't a little bit more. If you guys have

449
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,639
Speaker 5: said they've done this one before, they didn't sort of

450
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,920
Speaker 5: organize it a little bit better so it was closer

451
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 5: to where you could just reach out with Totally.

452
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 2: I thought Tony was actually going to be done in

453
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,439
Speaker 2: by not moving his blocks like sort of closer to

454
00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,240
Speaker 2: where you could grab them easy, because it looked like

455
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 2: some people maybe did that, like stacked him in advance.

456
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,120
Speaker 4: I take note it was Nick, Tony, Denise, and Jeremy

457
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 4: did not arrange their letters. Everybody else seemed to according

458
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 4: to what I could see.

459
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 3: All right, Well, second question, then at the end, when

460
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 3: it is basically Ben and Tony they've placed their last letter,

461
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,639
Speaker 3: they put the eye on the top of immunity. Tony

462
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 3: obviously has a lead on Ben, so Ben has to

463
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 3: make up that ground. Yeah, and Jeff even says it.

464
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 3: He's like, you got a decision to make here. Do

465
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,639
Speaker 3: you go slow and help hope Tony falls, which clearly

466
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,479
Speaker 3: he didn't, or do you go fast to try and

467
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,359
Speaker 3: make up the gap? Which are you guys choosing?

468
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,159
Speaker 2: Wow, I think you sort of have to speed it

469
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 2: up in Ben's Yeah, I mean the guy hasn't dropped

470
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 2: it the entire time. I'm talking about Tony, right, It's

471
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 2: like he's going super slow, so his odds are pretty good.

472
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 2: He's not going to so I think you sort of

473
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 2: got to put the pressure on. But you're right, I

474
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 2: mean you're gonna yeh as we saw it screwed him,

475
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 2: but it wouldn't mattered anyway. I think it would have

476
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 2: been just too far behind.

477
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 5: And did Jeff say that at some point someone got

478
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 5: it right but they missed held the wood.

479
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 2: That's another challenge that involved Ben once upon a time

480
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,439
Speaker 2: where he did it. It was a similar type of

481
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,959
Speaker 2: balancing challenge and like the touch and all that, but

482
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 2: he spelled something wrong, yeah, wow.

483
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 1: Or didn't he put the U upside down or something?

484
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he was saying. Yeah, it's something like that.

485
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 2: That's right.

486
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,199
Speaker 5: So in that so in that case, then it's he

487
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 5: even if he gets to the end, it's like sorry,

488
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 5: you spelled it wrong or you know, yeah, yeah.

489
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 2: Because just like something's wrong and he's like what what

490
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 2: and he's like, oh my god. Yeah. Michelle and Sarah

491
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 2: had experience with this challenge but didn't really seem to

492
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 2: pay off. It looks looks very difficult.

493
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 4: That's hard.

494
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 2: Like Tony said, it looked longer than normal the rope,

495
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like from where you were

496
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 2: grabbing your letters to getting to that little wobbly table.

497
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 2: He've done this before and it didn't feel that long.

498
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 2: But maybe I'm wrong.

499
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 4: And they said it took an hour one time, and

500
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 4: then fifteen minutes another time. I wonder how long this

501
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 4: one took. They didn't say.

502
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 2: Didn't seem like it took because Tony never dropped, so

503
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 2: my yeah, my god says around fifteen twenty Yeah, I

504
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 2: don't know. Yeah, it's a good point. So Tony's got

505
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 2: the the Immunity necklace aka the bulletproof vest as he

506
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 2: called it, and he grab two fire tokens. They're still

507
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 2: handing no fire tokens here. Who knows if we'll see

508
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 2: anything done with him? Will he write a letter to

509
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 2: somebody on Edge of Extinction. You could buy that option,

510
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 2: he could.

511
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 3: Jeff Probe says, we're getting a lot of survivor economy

512
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 3: next week, so oh, clearly the fire token's got to

513
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 3: mean something.

514
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 2: Okay, okay. So after the immunity challenge, we're back at

515
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 2: the beach and this is where we finally of this episode,

516
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 2: get to trying to figure out who the hell's going home.

517
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 2: I will I'll take you guys through this as well

518
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 2: as I can here. But Jeremy comes to Tony first

519
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,719
Speaker 2: with the proposal of splitting up Sarah and Sophie. Tony

520
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 2: basically shuts that down. He's like, no, we're not you know,

521
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 2: we're not doing that. Then we have Sarah going to

522
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 2: Tony with the proposal of getting rid of Kim, and

523
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 2: this is a great scene between these two, like you

524
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 2: feel like an old married couple, where Sarah is trying

525
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 2: to convince, you know, Tony that Kim has to go.

526
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 2: She's got everybody in her back pocket, and Tony is like, nah, no,

527
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 2: I don't think so who do you think is right

528
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 2: in this case? Who's got the better argument?

529
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 4: Is it?

530
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 2: Sarah saying Kim should we should focus on Kim, or

531
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 2: is it Tony saying we don't need to worry about Kim.

532
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 3: It's a good question. I would probably side with Sarah

533
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 3: on this one, because I think Tony would want to

534
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 3: keep Kim around as a pseudo meat shield because she

535
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 3: did a great job in her season, winning a bunch

536
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 3: of challenges. She's clearly in a pretty good position in

537
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 3: the tribe, and I think that Tony was probably keeping

538
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 3: Kim around a little bit as protection, which means she

539
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 3: really does have to go.

540
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, maybe. So then Kim pulls Jeremy to go talk.

541
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 2: This is when we get Tony, Ben and Nick making

542
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 2: note of that, and then Tony just straight up says,

543
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 2: do you guys want to blindside Jeremy? Just which we

544
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 2: thought Jeremy and Tony were like, you know, pretty pretty

545
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 2: damn close. But Tony flips right there, and it appears

546
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 2: some sort of alliance of voting block, whatever you want

547
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 2: to call it, is formed. It's Tony, Nick, Ben, Sarah,

548
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 2: and Sophie. There's ten people left. There's the five of

549
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 2: them that are gonna run together. So then we get Jeremy, Kim,

550
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 2: and Tyson trying to figure a way out of this mess.

551
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 2: They obviously think they have possibly five of them themselves.

552
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 2: And this is when Kim spills the beans that you know,

553
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 2: I have an idol. Maybe we could use it because

554
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 2: we got Denise and Michelle in theory with us, so

555
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 2: it's split and maybe we use it correctly. Whatever. Ben

556
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 2: tells Sarah though, that they're gonna now switch it up

557
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 2: and vote for Jeremy, because Sarah hadn't known about that part, right,

558
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 2: She's at one point, you know, they're trying to figure

559
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 2: it out. But the guys tell Sarah and Sophie, Okay,

560
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 2: now we're going Jeremy. Jeremy tells Tyson I got a

561
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 2: safety without power advantage and I can peace out at

562
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 2: this tribal council, but I don't get to vote. And

563
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 2: this is when you see Tyson go oh crap, because

564
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 2: if you do that, man, then we're really screwed because

565
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 2: we are You're you're leaving and we are losing a

566
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: vote and then it would be five on four.

567
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: So when did Jeremy get that when?

568
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, did Natalie give that to him?

569
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 4: I can't remember, Yes, Natalie, it was the she So

570
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 4: did she gift it to him or sell it? So?

571
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 2: Yes, sold it to him right and.

572
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 4: Early early on.

573
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, nowhere, okay, and so.

574
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 4: And by the way, this this tribal Council is the

575
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 4: last one that he could have could have used it.

576
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that is correct, that final ten, Jeremy says.

577
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 2: We get a quote from Jeremy, if I did leave,

578
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 2: I would be turning my back of my alliance. But

579
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 2: I'm a firefighter. We take care of people. And then

580
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 2: we are also reminded within the scene that Sarah has

581
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 2: the steal a vote. So if they play that, then

582
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 2: there would be no going to Rocks. There'd be no

583
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 2: in theory five to five. Tigh, you'd steal one of

584
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 2: their votes. Again if in theory that, if there's all

585
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 2: ten of them still there, and in that case it

586
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 2: would be six to four. That's before Jeremy left, of course,

587
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 2: So that's sort of the breakdown. And then we get

588
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: to tribal council and here come the whispers. Like I've

589
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: never been a fan of the whispering, and now more

590
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 2: than ever, I almost I'm on team ban the Whisper. Yeah,

591
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 2: it's it doesn't make for great TV.

592
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 5: I like last week, I enjoyed it because it was

593
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 5: the first time I'd seen it, but this week I

594
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 5: was like, no, this this sucks. Actually this is terrible

595
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 5: because it was almost like, because they did it the

596
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 5: night before or the extinction before the vote before, they're

597
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 5: going to just keep on doing it. And I think

598
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 5: Jeff should put the hammer down and say no, no more,

599
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,959
Speaker 5: especially because you had so much other drama anyway at

600
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 5: tribal council, Like I thought, you know, when they're playing

601
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 5: when Jeremy what's the guy had.

602
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 2: The power but no power?

603
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 5: Jeremyker Jeremy, Yeah, Jeremy, okay, right right right when he

604
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 5: had that, and he and Sarah were both like no,

605
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 5: you tell Jeff, No, you tell Jeff. I was like, ah,

606
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 5: this is great. And then there was another twist to

607
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 5: come afterwards with Sophie.

608
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 4: Is that right, yeah Sarah?

609
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 2: Oh Sarah, yeah no, but yeah who yeah right, okay, right,

610
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 2: so let me take you through a tribal council and

611
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 2: then we can get to the questions because yeah, we

612
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 2: get all the whispering, we get all the whispering, and

613
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 2: I knew, and I don't know about you guys, but

614
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: as soon as the whispers started up again, I was like, Okay,

615
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 2: Jeremy's going to get the hell out of here because

616
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 2: whatever I was told is not happening. So I'm out

617
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 2: of here and we can get in a little bit

618
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: later whether that was a good decision or not for him,

619
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 2: you know, so we I love we get a shot

620
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 2: of the jury trying to figure out who's working with who.

621
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 2: I thought that was such a great shot. They're like

622
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,719
Speaker 2: old pointing, They're like, okay, those people are together. Oh,

623
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 2: those people together. So Jeremy says, you know, I am

624
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 2: gonna go eventually. And that's after we had that little

625
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: hey Jeff standoff between Jeremy and and Sarah, which was.

626
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 3: No, you hang up first, No, you hang up first, No,

627
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 3: you hang up first.

628
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: So so Jerry plays an advantage. He's out of there.

629
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 2: So now that that smaller group is sort of screwed,

630
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: and we even get it's it did seem like in

631
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: this tribal council that that big alliance, that big voting block,

632
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: the one led by Tony, that they were probably gonna

633
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: go for Jeremy, right, because we get them saying, well,

634
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 2: what the hell happens now?

635
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: And that's why Jeremy's move was a good one.

636
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah for him for him? In that moment, no doubt,

637
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: Sophie I mean takes whispering to the next level. She

638
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 2: literally stands up and goes team huddle let's just call

639
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: it team meeting.

640
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is behind the torches.

641
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. I can't believe that either a Tyson or a Kim.

642
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 2: Let's say, why didn't they just go over there and

643
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: like refuse to let them huddle up without you being

644
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,959
Speaker 2: able to hear, they wouldn't be able to have done anything.

645
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 4: That's true.

646
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that, so they they They instead splinter

647
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: off the four of them remaining and are basically left

648
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: with Kim trying to figure out who do I play

649
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: an idol on? I've got a one in four shot.

650
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: I don't you know. She's trying to figure out she's

651
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 2: poker player, who do I go with? And then Sarah,

652
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: to help their chances even more, plays the steel a vote,

653
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: takes Denise's vote. She ain't voting, so now it's really

654
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: if my math is correct here, it would be like six

655
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: votes to three, and again Kim's got to figure out

656
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: who to hell to play the idol on? She played

657
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 2: for herself, does she play it for Tyson? Does she

658
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 2: play it for Denise or I guess in theory, you know,

659
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: maybe even like a Michelle or something like that.

660
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 3: But I thought she completely blew it. I thought Kim

661
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: Kim one blew it, considering earlier in the episode she

662
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 3: was sitting down with Tyson and Jeremy and said, we

663
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 3: gotta protect ourselves, we gotta all stick together, and then

664
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 3: when it came time to it, she didn't protect her three.

665
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 3: She could have easily put votes on Tyson, the guy

666
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 3: who came back from Edge of Extinction, who wasn't in

667
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 3: the crosshairs. But once Jeremy left, you had to be thinking,

668
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 3: perhaps Tyson is going to be going out here. He

669
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 3: knew he could possibly be going out here when Jeremy

670
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 3: told him about the peace out advantage.

671
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

672
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 3: Maybe she was just convinced that since Sarah took Denise's vote,

673
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: that she was the target. Nonetheless, Kim, for being a

674
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 3: poker player, got completely played.

675
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: I thought she.

676
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 3: I thought she was terrible last night at tribal Console.

677
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, she should have either you just play that damn

678
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 2: thing for yourself one or I'm with you. I don't

679
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: get playing it for Denise after they stole her vote,

680
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: that's a classic, like they're not going to be going

681
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: for her. Really in my opinion too, it's easy, I

682
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: guess for us to say now, but yeah, I would have.

683
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: I wished to Tray that she should have went herself

684
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: or Tyson.

685
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 4: It was odd to me that she was seen to

686
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 4: be hell then to play it for somebody else, Like

687
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 4: right from the beginning of the strategizing of that this episode,

688
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 4: she's like, she's basically telling people, I'm not going to

689
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 4: use it on me, I'm gonna use it on somebody else.

690
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 4: She said that to Denise.

691
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that was a part of her poker play

692
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: though back right, like trying to fake them out. They're

693
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 2: like no, no, when they're huddled up, they're like, well,

694
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: she's gonna play it for herself, so let's not put

695
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: the votes on Kim, right, which I guess they didn't.

696
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 4: But yeah, well, I think she was just trying to

697
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 4: swing for the fences and make a big move to

698
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 4: impress the jury. Maybe I don't know.

699
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if it impressed the jury is just

700
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: as much as like try and keep our alliance together.

701
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: I mean this, we're sort of screwed now, Like if

702
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: those five are tight. They're basically running the rest of

703
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: this game. But are they tight? Here's the one part though,

704
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: and a lot of people were confused by this. People

705
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 2: were like, why didn't that five person huddle up alliance

706
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: split their votes? Because they had six votes after they

707
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 2: stole Denise's why didn't they go, you know, three and

708
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: three in case as we saw of an idol, like

709
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: put three on Kim and three on Denise or whatever,

710
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: Because that's not what happened. I guess Michelle actually flipped

711
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 2: on what you thought was her alliance and she threw

712
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: it to a vote to Tyson as well. So it

713
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: was like they didn't play it all that well either,

714
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: because if Kim had properly played the idol on Tyson,

715
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: it would have been if Michelle hadn't flipped, I should say,

716
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 2: then it would have been a Sophie going home. She

717
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: would have had more votes, Which is crazy that they

718
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 2: didn't decide to school cover their ass and go three three.

719
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 2: But then again, maybe they knew Michelle was going to

720
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: be turning their back on.

721
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 4: Them, right and Ben, how did Michelle know to flip?

722
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 4: And she was not in that little huddle, so maybe

723
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 4: somebody whispered to her when she came back, or maybe

724
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 4: she just if you go back, and they didn't show

725
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 4: it on the show, but on CBS dot com they

726
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 4: show the video of the vote and Michelle's shot she's

727
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 4: you don't hear her say anything, but it's just her

728
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,719
Speaker 4: slow motion and the biggest shrugru you've ever seen, like

729
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 4: just I don't know, I guess Tyson, which is odd.

730
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: It was wild, but we did have all these advantages played,

731
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: so that is that is good, and it did feel

732
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: a lot more like Survivor was being played. For sure.

733
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: I thought it was the most fun tribal Council I've watched,

734
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: just as far as strategizing goes. It was, you know,

735
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: the whispers not fun. Circumventing the whisper rule by speaking

736
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: at a volume that's acceptable away from the council not

737
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: fun to watch. But the simultaneous Jeremy and Sarah awesome.

738
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: And then yeah, I think I think the one I

739
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 1: think there was three things played in in the tribal Council.

740
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: Jeremy's power him, the immunity is and Sarah with the

741
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: two votes. I think it was one for three. I

742
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: don't understand why Sarah played two votes when Jeremy walked away.

743
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: It seemed like a mistake, and then Kim's mistake, but

744
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: so much strategizing within five minutes. I thought it definitely

745
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: felt like Survivor was being played. That was I was fine,

746
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: the most fun tribal council I've seen.

747
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 2: So if if we don't like the whispering, what should

748
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 2: they do? Like, how do you how do you sort

749
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: of police it? What is Jeff to do? Or leave

750
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: your stool?

751
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,479
Speaker 5: Maybe I would just say, okay, whatever you know, because

752
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 5: it doesn't The thing is, it doesn't really mean anything

753
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 5: because you just still don't really know exactly what's gonna

754
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,479
Speaker 5: happen because they've all been making so many little side

755
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 5: deals and back deals with each other anyway, who knows

756
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 5: what they're actually whispering to each other?

757
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 2: So well, okay, hold on, hold on, hold on. So

758
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 2: if their plan was to vote Jeremy, which it sure

759
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 2: felt like, and then this guy says bye, I'm out

760
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: of here, and they didn't know that he was going

761
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 2: to do that, and they were like, well, what do

762
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 2: we do now? I hate that. Then they're allowed, right

763
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: there on the spot to literally get up as a

764
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 2: group and huddle together and be like whoa, Okay, now

765
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: what should we do to me? The beauty of Survivor

766
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: is like they came in with the plan. Oh my god,

767
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 2: this guy's playing an advantage where you can just leave

768
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 2: and like we and now it's like they should be

769
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: at a disadvantage because they got you know, they got

770
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: played there because of this advantage. And it's like instead

771
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: they're like, well, okay, let's just pretend we're back on

772
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: the beach for a second and talk our next plan.

773
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 2: You should have that plan already in place or fancy

774
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 2: in place and d in place. But I hated that part.

775
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 4: That's when the chess game is supposed to start, right.

776
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 4: You can't. You can't just make have a makeshift war

777
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 4: room and discuss, you know. I mean, although it was

778
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 4: jarring to see physically the line in the sand, like

779
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 4: it's literally our alliance is going here, which is you

780
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 4: never get to see at tribal Council. But that was

781
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 4: a real almost jump the shark moment for the whispering

782
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 4: at tribal especially especially right after Jeremy Place's advantage, Like

783
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 4: that's where the hits the fan and everybody has to

784
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 4: rely on their wits and you're playing chess. At that point,

785
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 4: Sarah has to decide on the spot if she's going

786
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 4: to use her steal to vote, and if she is,

787
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 4: who's she using it on. And also anyone with an

788
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 4: idol in their back pocket has to decide am I

789
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 4: going to use this idol or on myself or at all?

790
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 4: Or who am I going to play it for. It's

791
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 4: way more fun to watch that way, when the scramble

792
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 4: is happening and it's like this massive game of chicken. Basically, yeah, totally.

793
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 5: You know.

794
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: You know how they say the coronavirus may change the

795
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: way we act in public for the future, Well it

796
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: should change the way Survivor is played in the future

797
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: as well. Self distancing at tribal councils six feet apart,

798
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: there's no whispering at all. You can't move, you can't

799
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: move from your seat, and I still think you can

800
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: achieve a decent shot. Two rows six feet apart.

801
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 4: You just can't talk.

802
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: I don't get it. They're just they're just it's just

803
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: not allowed. Number one and number two. I think you

804
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: should force these people to switch up their seats as well,

805
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: Like I would want to sit in a back row

806
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: so I can take in everything I can possibly take in.

807
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: But like Sophie, she's a front seater. She's always in

808
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: the front row. There's always people in the front row.

809
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: That's production I think decides that, like where they sit.

810
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 4: If I'm not missing, Yeah, I think you're right.

811
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 2: They don't pick their sabots, so it does. Yeah, I

812
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 2: guess production has in mind, Like sometimes they want to

813
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 2: split it up, like oh, okay, well this faction's over

814
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 2: there and this faction's over there. I'm with you though

815
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 2: tasks Like the rule is very simple for me. You

816
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: just can't leave your seat, like you could still in

817
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 2: theorior with people person next to you. Well, I don't

818
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: care if that's fine. I don't mind that because then

819
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: you can play broken telephone. Like if you really got

820
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 2: to get that message all the way over there and

821
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 2: you don't want to say it out loud, well have

822
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 2: at it, whisper it all you want to the next

823
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 2: person be to then maybe moving on to then movie

824
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: moving on. But like the getting up and having these

825
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: huddles and all that, I actually hate it. I don't

826
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 2: like it.

827
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: A bigger advantage for the taller people.

828
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 4: Then you're right, you're right, you're right, and getting back

829
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 4: to Jeremy when all this is happening. He absolutely made

830
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 4: the right move. I mean as a firefighter, he said, yeah,

831
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 4: I'm here to help people, but as a firefighter, I

832
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 4: know when to leave a building when it's about to

833
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 4: collapse on me. And that's exactly what he did. So

834
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 4: good on him, totally.

835
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, the question is now with him doing that, I mean,

836
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 2: he really like turning his back on his alliance there,

837
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 2: can he win this game at all? Now? That's that's

838
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: the only thing to me, Like, you're right, he saved

839
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: himself and it looked like you had to. Is Like,

840
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 2: I just don't know. Did he blow up? Did he

841
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 2: blow up the long game tonight for him? I'm skeptically

842
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 2: he can win the jury votes now or even his

843
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 2: own people's votes.

844
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. I thought it was just a brilliant play by

845
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 3: Sarah because first of all, you know, she kind of

846
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 3: got him to play his piece out before she even

847
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 3: made her move. Then she made him look bad because

848
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 3: he left his alliance. Then she took an idol from

849
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 3: another Alliance member and eliminated another Alliance member. So what

850
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 3: alliance is even left from Kim Tyson and Jeremy Right now,

851
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 3: are they gonna re regroup and be like, Okay, we've

852
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 3: got two. That means we're basically in the middle or

853
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 3: on the bottom. Uh yeah, I don't know. I mean,

854
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 3: Jeremy's gotta leave. But on the other hand, what if

855
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: he sticks around and he knows that Kim has her

856
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: immunity necklace and he just accepts that the vote is

857
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 3: coming to him. Vote me out, I know, I'm going home.

858
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah, put up the sad face. Then she

859
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 3: plays her idol on him. They could have taken the

860
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 3: power back right then.

861
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's true. But then again, there's this

862
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 2: whole what the hell is Michelle doing? This is the

863
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 2: fascinating part to me. It's like she wasn't with them

864
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 2: now now did she only switch right there in the

865
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 2: moment because of all the crap going on and all

866
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: the idols being played or just being played maybe, or

867
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 2: was she never really with them? Is she a bit

868
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: of a double agent? I guess we do not know.

869
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 2: We only know now that Sophie has an immunity idol

870
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: and Michelle still has the fifty to fifty coin advantage.

871
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 3: Right, But Michelle has also been voting with Nick for

872
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 3: the majority of the show right, and she continued to

873
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 3: vote with Nick last night. So why did you think

874
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 3: she was on the the Poker Alliance side. I don't

875
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 3: know why they were convinced she was with them.

876
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, true, and I and I don't think, I

877
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 4: personally don't think that Jeremy's gonna suffer too much for

878
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 4: his move, just simply because he is a he's a

879
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 4: free agent, and I think that any of them would

880
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 4: have done the same thing if they had that advantage

881
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 4: of if they were in his position. I mean, it's

882
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 4: a it's a bit of a sin, but it's it's

883
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 4: it's a minor, it's a minor infraction in my in

884
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 4: my mind.

885
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: It feels like a play an NBA playoff series. You

886
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: can't take momentum from game to game. It feels like

887
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: every episode is a new one and the previous ones

888
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: are washed away into the shore, into Tyson's poop. As

889
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: he said, he uses the water as his toilet. It

890
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: just feels like it's gone and Jeremy is now. We

891
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: see shots of it next week. It feels like it's

892
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: another chaotic scene and another chaotic episode, and it's every

893
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: person for themselves.

894
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, you know, you're probably right, He'll probably just

895
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: be able to slide back in there. But I mean

896
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: it worked for Tyson for a little bit, and then

897
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: suddenly he's back to the edge of extinction. I love

898
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: when he left, he said see you guys soon, very soon,

899
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 2: and then he flips the bird at the bequeath. It's

900
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: like I got any to give, just flips the bird

901
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 2: at the object.

902
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 3: Think he hit that peanut butter jar hard last night

903
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 3: when he finally got back to the edge of extinction,

904
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 3: going why is he walking into the woods in the

905
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 3: pitch black darkness? Why does he smell like peanut butter? Now,

906
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 3: what's going on here?

907
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, he could very easily win another challenge. I mean

908
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 2: we sort of talked about it last week. I think

909
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 2: it was this idea that Tony came's talking up this

910
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 2: lion alliance and all these big players and we got

911
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 2: to stick together. And what if he just completely is

912
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 2: playing everybody and turns his back on the other lions

913
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 2: and picks up all the hyenas. He sort of did

914
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: that in this one h with picking up who he

915
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 2: at least appears or thinks is in a hyaena, like

916
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 2: a Nick and a Ben maybe even a Sophie. He's

917
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: tight with Sarah. Of course, the cops are us and

918
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: they're really tight, even though they bicker with each other.

919
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: But that's sort of what he's doing here. Though you

920
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 2: said it, he's getting the uh uh oh, what's Tony

921
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: up to in next week's episode of Survivor. Looks like

922
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 2: he's maybe going mental and he's trying to play the

923
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 2: double agent.

924
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:35,479
Speaker 1: Is what we're told.

925
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 3: When you get a scene of Tony sprinting through the woods,

926
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 3: you know it's gonna be a good episode. The man

927
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 3: couldn't even keep his feet underneath him in that like

928
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 3: one second shot we saw of him just tumbling with

929
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 3: a messenger bag on the side of him.

930
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, what is he doing? Is that his

931
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,919
Speaker 2: bag or is he going through somebody's bag?

932
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 4: I think it's Kim's bag, is it not? Because she

933
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 4: looked a lot like the one Kim pulled out. I

934
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 4: mean I could be wrong, but it didn't feel like

935
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 4: it was his bag.

936
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then, of course, like an idol's been played,

937
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 2: Kim's idol has been played, so in theory that goes

938
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 2: back in the game, so you would imagine there's a

939
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 2: bit of a you know, a chase for that, or

940
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 2: at least trying to find that, you would you would think.

941
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 2: The only thing left I have from the breakdown is

942
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 2: the group hug post credits. That was a nice moment. Hey,

943
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 2: prop thanks, They'll just give the giant grouphug.

944
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 3: I wish they could surprise that Boston Rob didn't look

945
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 3: straight at the camera. And as soon as you said

946
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 3: thank you to Jeff, props and then say and also

947
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 3: thank you to you Fiji.

948
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, they bring like a little model airplane out that

949
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 2: they can all hug to. Anything else from this I

950
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 2: know at the end we'll give m vps and stuff.

951
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 2: Any other questions though or observations from this episode.

952
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 5: Uh, the idol that was played was the one that

953
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 5: looked like what Adam thought was an audi.

954
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

955
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that was interesting that that that Adam was.

956
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 5: I mean, he had a very strong case of believing

957
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 5: last week that there was an immunity.

958
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 2: Idol out there.

959
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 5: You love Adam now, I just I think I love

960
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 5: I love hating the character, you know, I mean it's

961
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 5: it's you know, it's like if you want to watch someone,

962
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 5: you want to see someone, whether or not you love

963
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 5: them or hate them. It doesn't really matter. It's just

964
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 5: you just feel compelled to see what they do. So

965
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 5: I'm rooting for him now.

966
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 3: I'm back in.

967
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 2: I'm back.

968
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: I read this rumor online yesterday that somebody played an

969
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: immunity idol in a previous season at Tribal Council. Propes

970
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: put it in his pocket. Then they had a group

971
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: hug at the end and someone store the immunity from

972
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: market episode.

973
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 2: No, I don't think that is brilliant. That would be brilliant.

974
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 5: I can't imagine. I can't imagine Jeff would be so

975
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 5: careless with an idol like that that someone would just

976
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 5: be able to you know, you never know mats out there, Yeah,

977
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 5: markets to keep your Yeah, that's the only thing with

978
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 5: Jeff is I wish he wouldn't wear sneakers on the beach.

979
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 5: Like whenever he's out there for the for the challenges.

980
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 5: You know, he's looking great, he's looking fresh, he's hand,

981
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 5: he's been eating well and exercising, and then he just

982
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 5: got these I think they're like assex runners that he's

983
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 5: gone on. I'm like, give the man some flip flops

984
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 5: or something or something.

985
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 2: He's around out there, he's gonna run you can't barefoot.

986
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's but no, but having sneakers like that is

987
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 5: actually not comfortable on the beach either, Like there's got

988
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 5: to be a middle ground there. You know. It's funny

989
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 5: because of course, yeah, I just think like he's got

990
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 5: that complete package there, and it's like, but then he

991
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 5: just got these shoes. It just looks like an uncol

992
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 5: dad at the beach, like, come on, kids, it's time

993
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 5: to go. Your mum's packed the car up, let's get

994
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 5: out of here.

995
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 2: He looks exactly like I think you would look on

996
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: the beach, exactly except for I wouldn't be wearing those shoes.

997
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 5: That's all I'm saying. I tell you what though, I

998
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 5: tell you what I mean. He is so good at

999
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 5: his job. You know, you know, JD, I think you

1000
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 5: and I are an agreement that Ryan Seacrest is the

1001
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 5: perfect host.

1002
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 4: For American Idol hundred percent.

1003
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 5: I think Jeff Probs is perfect for what he does.

1004
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 5: He's got such great energy, He's always smiling, he never

1005
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 5: gets frustrated, like because can you imagine doing some of

1006
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 5: those challenges. At some point he's probably like, come on,

1007
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 5: moving along, guys, this is Jesus, Come on, shoes. Yeah,

1008
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 5: but instead he's there. He's encouraging. He's like Jimmy the

1009
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 5: Mouth from the South heard, you know, like, but for everybody,

1010
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 5: he's encouraging everybody.

1011
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: He's great. We've got to get him on the show.

1012
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 5: We've gotta get him on.

1013
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 4: Let's get it right.

1014
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,919
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1015
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Speaker 2: All right, into treemail. We've got a few here. First

1050
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 2: one is from Ben in Ontario. Not Ben playing Survivor.

1051
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,959
Speaker 2: I've never actually watched Survivor rights Ben, but I've enjoyed

1052
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 2: a few seasons of Big Brother, and the games seem

1053
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: to boil down to basically the same idea. Vote others

1054
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: off or out, have competitions for various powers, and have

1055
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 2: a jury choose the winner at the game's end. Which

1056
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 2: game do you, guys think would be more difficult? In

1057
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 2: Survivor you have to deal with the environment and being outdoors,

1058
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 2: but Big Brother lasts much longer and you're locked in

1059
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 2: the house the whole time with cameras running twenty four

1060
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,439
Speaker 2: to seven. Which show would you rather be on? Again?

1061
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 2: That's from Ben in Ontario, who wants the answer first.

1062
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 5: Survivor easily being on the beach, out there and out

1063
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 5: in the sun and the fresh air and listen. I've

1064
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 5: never been to Fiji, but they've sold me on this already.

1065
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 5: I want to fly Fiji air ways out. I want

1066
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 5: to go out there to Fiji and hang out with

1067
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 5: the family on the beach.

1068
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 2: No.

1069
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 5: I mean the thing is with Big Brother. I only

1070
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 5: watched it like fifteen years ago when I lived in England,

1071
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 5: and I just I would hate to be under those

1072
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 5: claustrophobic circumstances in that sort of house and yard. At

1073
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 5: least at least with Survivor, you're outdoors and you've you've

1074
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 5: got a little bit more freedom and flexibility, and as

1075
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 5: just as a nice.

1076
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: Reviinment, I mean, we're forgetting about that.

1077
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 5: Ah yeah, but it's beautiful, you know. But yeah, but

1078
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 5: even that, I mean, it's not like it's cold. It's

1079
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 5: it's you know, it's it's rainy, but it's still still

1080
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 5: warm out there. You know, It's not like no one's

1081
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 5: freezing to death. And I just feel like, even though

1082
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 5: I know they're sort of it's the same idea as

1083
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 5: far as you know, forming alliances and backstabbing and all that,

1084
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 5: the people on Big Brother seemed just like more slimy

1085
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 5: than the ones on.

1086
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 3: Feels Yeah.

1087
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, Survivor feels more like it's a strategy to the

1088
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 5: deceptiveness to each other, whereas Big Brothers just like they're

1089
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 5: they're the worst people you knew going to school and

1090
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 5: growing up with. You know, I can't stand that person.

1091
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm one hundred percent with you, Lee. I've never

1092
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 3: finished in an entire season of Big Brother, it feels

1093
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 3: like they're just making it up as they go along.

1094
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 3: There's been a lot of twists and Survivor as the

1095
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 3: years have gone on, but sometimes it just feels like

1096
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 3: I'm Big Brother. They're like, hey, we came up with

1097
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 3: a new idea last night, and now it will completely

1098
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 3: determine the game. Just so low rent. If you're getting

1099
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 3: a prestige persona like Trey Kirby, it's gonna be on Survivor.

1100
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm also a team Survivor. I like Big Brother

1101
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: is now like something like one hundred days long. Like

1102
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 2: you're trapped in that house on a studio set all

1103
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 2: summer long. I mean, yeah, there's that little outdoor area,

1104
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 2: but sometimes you can't even go outside because they're doing

1105
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 2: production out there. Like it's you are literally a hamster,

1106
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 2: you know, in a cage. No thanks to that. I'm

1107
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 2: definitely going on Survivor. And I've watched Big Brother before.

1108
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 2: I liked it for a few years, and now I'm

1109
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 2: totally off it again. I couldn't stand it now.

1110
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's it's not even close. I mean Survivor

1111
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 4: for sure. Survivor would be a dream come true. Big

1112
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 4: Brother would be you know, a lark, I guess, but

1113
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,760
Speaker 4: you know, at this point in my life, I would

1114
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 4: be the old guy on either show. But I wouldn't.

1115
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 4: I wouldn't last a day in the Big Brother House

1116
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 4: with that insufferable cast. I mean, I would probably walk

1117
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 4: out if I wasn't voted out first, just because it

1118
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 4: would just be the crankiest bitch of all time.

1119
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 5: But I wouldn't want you off. I want to keep

1120
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 5: you on the time.

1121
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 4: The Big Brother casts are generally stupid, so they would

1122
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 4: be like, let's get rid of the old guy. He's

1123
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 4: always down, has to do the dishes and stuff.

1124
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: You guys are right, not much of a contest, All right,

1125
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: I'll move on to the next email here. Hey, no

1126
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,240
Speaker 1: dunk sank. I just finished worlds Apart and was beyond

1127
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: impressed with my winning five immunity challenges all with his

1128
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: back against the wall. Can one of you give me

1129
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: your top five challenge beasts of all time? That's from

1130
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: the stern licked on Twitter. Top five Challenge Beasts to

1131
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: top five Top five.

1132
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 3: Tom By top five top.

1133
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 2: Five beat Yeah, I can do this. I'll hit you

1134
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 2: with a top five Survivor Challenge beasts. According to me,

1135
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be missing, of course, some of your favorites

1136
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 2: out there. You can tweet at me get angry if

1137
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 2: you want. At Jay Skeets. By the way, with Mike,

1138
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 2: I'm not going to include them in my top five

1139
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 2: list here, even though he did the five immunity challenges,

1140
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 2: we forget about that is uh, you only really started

1141
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 2: winning all of those once one of the other guys

1142
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 2: on my list got voted out and he didn't have

1143
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 2: that competition to battle with them. But here they are

1144
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 2: my top five Survivor Challenge beats. Now number five, I'm

1145
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 2: going Boston Rob mainly just because the guy's played forever,

1146
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 2: played five seasons, and he has the most career individual

1147
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 2: challenge wins. He's got ten over the five seasons playing. Yeah,

1148
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: he slowed down in older age, but a young Boston

1149
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 2: Rob was pretty damn good, not only in individual challenges

1150
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 2: but obviously team challenges and rewards and stuff like that.

1151
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 2: He was he's a bit of a puzzle master, and

1152
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: he's still a physical guy, especially when he was younger.

1153
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,479
Speaker 2: So he makes number five.

1154
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 3: We heard on an episode just last week he's good

1155
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 3: at everything.

1156
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, he really was, and it is probably still even

1157
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 2: for an older guy. What were you gonna say, jad.

1158
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 4: He I remember one challenge where he had a complete

1159
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 4: mental breakdown. It was at the top of a mountain.

1160
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 4: Do you guys remember that at all? He was like

1161
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 4: he just collapsed into a heap of tears and it

1162
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 4: was like an endurance challenge going up a hill. I

1163
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:46,720
Speaker 4: just remember that anyway.

1164
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gave it, as all always does. So Boston

1165
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 2: number five.

1166
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: If you had to pocket Ca on Survivor, he'd also.

1167
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 2: Be number four. My lone female on the list, But

1168
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 2: it is Kim Spradlin. Just last week we mentioned that

1169
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 2: she is now officially the most dominant female Challenge beast

1170
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 2: we've ever had, winning six community challenges in only two seasons,

1171
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 2: which is pretty damn good. Who knows she could have

1172
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 2: another another one or two still her in her back

1173
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 2: pocket here in this season, which would get her up

1174
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 2: to like, you know, once you get up to like

1175
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 2: seven or eight all time immunity challenges, like you're in

1176
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 2: rarefied air. So I'm throwing Kim on there. She just

1177
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 2: like she's obviously she's a taller peers to be a

1178
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 2: taller woman, but just has good balance and seems strong

1179
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 2: enough for her size and stuff like that, and great

1180
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 2: and endurance things. Obviously, sharp is very very sharp. What

1181
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 2: am I trying to say? She's very smart attack. So

1182
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 2: Kim Spratlin at number four, Sharpe is attack. I think

1183
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 2: that's what I was trying to say at number three.

1184
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 2: Apologies to Tom Westman, but Terry Deets is the greatest

1185
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 2: older challenge beast in Survivor of history. Terry Deets played

1186
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 2: in Survivor Panama Exile Island in that season. He did

1187
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 2: come back, though he had to leave unfortunately because of

1188
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 2: issues with his fan off the island. He left somewhat early.

1189
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 2: But this guy, I think he was a retired like

1190
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 2: fighter pilot or something. He won eight of twelve individual

1191
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 2: challenges within that season, and he won five straight immunity necklaces,

1192
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 2: which I think is still the record or at least

1193
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 2: tied for that record. And he had competition. He was

1194
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 2: going against us. There was no slouch in a lot

1195
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 2: of competitions either, and actually got the best one of

1196
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 2: a few times. But like a much younger guy was

1197
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 2: super fit, and Terry Deats Man as an older guy,

1198
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 2: was a beast. He also helped his tribe win a

1199
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 2: ton two generally because of him. He was like just

1200
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 2: straight up carrying them to victory. So Terry Deets JD. Tray,

1201
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 2: you remember Terry deats.

1202
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, vaguely. Yeah, I just googled him as a pilot,

1203
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 4: a Navy US pilot. A USB came.

1204
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 2: He came back during game changeres did he not? But

1205
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 2: had to leave because something happened to his son.

1206
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 4: I think he was in Panama and Cambodia.

1207
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 2: Cambodia's Game changers, right, Yeah, was that game changers?

1208
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 3: Second chance?

1209
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, second chance. I'm getting the mixed up. Yeah, yeah,

1210
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 2: he left early in that. So but again, guys fit

1211
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 2: for an older guy. Number two and one, they're pretty obvious.

1212
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 2: It was just sort of deciding where I was gonna

1213
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 2: slot them. Number two is Ozzy. Yeah, he played four seasons.

1214
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 2: He won eight out of seventeen immunity challenges. He's even

1215
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: though there have been like legit Olympic swimmers, I'm gonna

1216
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 2: say Ozzy's the greatest swimmer in Survivor history. The guy

1217
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 2: was a damn fish. Like remember, like early on he

1218
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 2: would just like dive underwater, like free dive and just

1219
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 2: come up with like eight fish. It's like he could

1220
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 2: hold his breath like crazy, super athletic. His strategy even

1221
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,280
Speaker 2: became like all right, I'll just go to a redemption

1222
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 2: island and just win my way back into the game

1223
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 2: and did it. Mind boggling, So Ozzy could have been

1224
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 2: number one, but instead I start of just went with

1225
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 2: the souped up version of Ozzy, the bigger version of Ozzy,

1226
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 2: and that is handsome Joe Anglim who is an all

1227
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 2: around talent, incredibly balanced, strong, great up puzzles, was huge

1228
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 2: in team challenges, but he won seven out of the

1229
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 2: twelve immunity challenges he's participated in, and only I think,

1230
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 2: what how many times has he played? Twice? Yeah?

1231
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 4: Twice?

1232
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm sure we'll see Handsome Joe again in Survivor.

1233
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 4: Oh then nois Yeah, World's Apart, second Chance and uh

1234
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 4: Edge of Extinction.

1235
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and World's Apart exactly Like our writer our email

1236
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 2: are said about Mike going on that run, well that

1237
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 2: was after they wisely got rid of Joe because they're like,

1238
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 2: this guy's gonna win everything. There's no way Mike beats

1239
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 2: Joe in a lot of these challenges, not a chance,

1240
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 2: maybe one or two, but like that's how that's why

1241
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 2: they got rid of them. They're like, he's gonna win everything.

1242
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 2: H So again, he's just sort of like a bigger

1243
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 2: version of Ozzy. He's just a taller maybe stronger versions.

1244
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 4: But there I said it, Wow, wow, I don't know.

1245
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 3: Only one of them was filming pornos and it was

1246
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 3: I'll take Ozzie over Joe. You mentioned as he went

1247
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 3: to uh, he had himself voted out so that he

1248
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 3: could go win a bunch of challenges and come back,

1249
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 3: and he actually did it.

1250
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that was amazing.

1251
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 2: I think the counter though, I'm gonna hit with you,

1252
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 2: hit with you, Trey is uhh Joe. Joe is better

1253
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 2: at puzzles than Ausy. Like if you put them head

1254
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 2: to head in puzzle of a challenge, which a lot

1255
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 2: of these obviously have, I think he I think he

1256
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 2: just ekes them out there. That's it's the only reason

1257
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 2: I put him there. But yeah's amazing. He's He's credible.

1258
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 4: Ozzie also he was it almost was like he was

1259
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 4: afraid to win the game, you know, like it always

1260
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 4: felt that he kind of choked when it actually came

1261
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 4: to winning Survivor. He was great at the challenges, but

1262
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 4: he just never could get beyond the challenges. It was

1263
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 4: he just seemed to choke. As I remember it.

1264
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 2: He's the most I also just don't think he's the

1265
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 2: most likable guy. I'm being honest, I don't. That's my

1266
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 2: take on watching the seasons. I think Joe is much

1267
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 2: more likable, which is why they're like, oh yeah, if

1268
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 2: he gets to the end, he's winning. People actually like

1269
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 2: him too, and he's a beast in challenges. But yeah,

1270
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 2: that's my top five. Sounds like you somewhat agree. Trey

1271
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 2: would have Ozzie number one, but a lot of a

1272
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 2: lot of other names. Of course you could throw on

1273
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 2: the top five.

1274
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: Hey, what about this guy?

1275
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 3: What about this guy?

1276
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 2: Colby Donaldson?

1277
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 3: The old school challenge beast? People forget it was a

1278
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 3: different era back then. Can you compare eras of challenges?

1279
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, Tom Westman, as

1280
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 2: I said Kobe, Yeah, it's a good one.

1281
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 4: It's actually, I mean all kidding his side. Yeah, the

1282
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 4: older challenges, some of them, they would they those endurance

1283
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 4: challenges would last for the entire day into the night sometimes, right,

1284
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 4: So maybe the challenges are a little bit maybe harder

1285
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 4: and you can't go as long, but they just don't

1286
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 4: go as long.

1287
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, MVP of the episode, who wants

1288
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 2: to get a start trail, Let's start with you. Who's

1289
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 2: your MVP of this one?

1290
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 3: Sarah in a blowout, She decimated the poker alliance, got

1291
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 3: Jeremy to play his thing, made him look bad in

1292
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 3: front of the jury, got a person voted out from

1293
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 3: his alliance, and flushed out an idol. I think Sarah

1294
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 3: owned the episode last night, And of course we got

1295
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 3: to give another MVP vote to Fiji Airways?

1296
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lee, are you giving MVP to Jeff Props?

1297
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't have a clear cut MVP from this episode,

1298
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 5: although I will say for two weeks in a row now,

1299
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 5: Denise has ended pretty strongly without really doing anything. You know,

1300
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 5: she got protected there from being from being voted out

1301
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 5: when she was just sitting there doing minding her own business.

1302
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 5: So that's pretty good for her. So yeah, I didn't.

1303
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 5: I didn't feel anyone really sort of stood out, you know,

1304
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 5: in this one for me to give. So I'm just

1305
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 5: gonna go with Jeff, because why not?

1306
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 2: He could win it? Okay, Okay, what about you?

1307
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: Denise also protected when Big Bird slash Quentin Tarantino slash

1308
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: David showed up. That guy's a giant, protect anybody. I'm

1309
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 1: gonna go with another giant I'm gonna go with Tyson.

1310
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: I know it sounds stupid, but he played it smart

1311
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: when his family got there Bergen. His daughter came up,

1312
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: the Bergens are coming, The Bergens are coming, and he

1313
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 1: saw that she was big eyed and didn't know what

1314
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: was going on, so he played it safe with her,

1315
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: didn't jump on her smart move. Yes, he's been eliminated again,

1316
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: but as my friend Kelly Clarkson says, what doesn't kill

1317
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 1: you makes you stronger. So he will either come back

1318
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: for a third time. And I don't think they're going

1319
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: to vote him out again.

1320
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 2: Oh if they would be so stupid if they don't.

1321
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 2: If he comes back, they need to get rid of

1322
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 2: him as soon as they can, because he will win

1323
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 2: the game. Yeah, easily.

1324
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 4: I would argue that anybody on an extinction would win.

1325
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 4: You think so, I think so? Yeah, because the Jerry

1326
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 4: is all Edge of Extinction people.

1327
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1328
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: Well, I think some way, some somehow Tyson is going

1329
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: to get this Edge of Extinction somehow eliminated from the game.

1330
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: I don't know how, but I'm giving him m VP

1331
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: because if he gets back a third time it does anything,

1332
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: I think there will be a banishment of Edge of extinction,

1333
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: So that's why he's my MVP.

1334
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 2: Oh you can lock that into as it's gone, says Probes.

1335
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 2: This is it.

1336
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 1: Oh wow, it is the rest.

1337
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 2: Maybe Tyson wins this game and they're like, uh, oh,

1338
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 2: we got We've now had someone come back and win

1339
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 2: this twice. We got to get rid of this GD MVP.

1340
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 4: Runner up to Jeremy for reading the room and walking

1341
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 4: out with his peace out advantage. But I'm actually going

1342
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 4: to give it to Tony. He won his first immunity

1343
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 4: challenge individual Immunity Challenge, which I found very surprising. We

1344
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 4: all did. And the thing I love about Survivor is

1345
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 4: watching people grow. And sometimes you watch from the very beginning,

1346
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 4: guys like the Meeker, guys like Mike White or Cochrane

1347
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 4: or their rocket scientist Christian, they sort of come into

1348
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 4: their own during the game. Well, we've seen Tony grow

1349
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 4: over the course of three times he's played this game.

1350
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 4: He's learned patience, he's learned to play it cool. I mean,

1351
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 4: this is gonna blow up next week probably, but for now,

1352
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 4: I'm going to give him the MVP because good on him,

1353
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 4: and I love seeing people grow.

1354
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 2: I have a question, do you guys think when we

1355
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 2: were talking about all these giant family loved ones, I

1356
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 2: heard Rob and fish back talk about this, could there

1357
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 2: be this thing of the three people that didn't have

1358
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 2: kids come out you didn't see like they're Wow, they're beautiful,

1359
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 2: big family with all these young ones. And I'm talking

1360
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 2: about Michelle who just had her sister, and Nick who

1361
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 2: just had you know, a fiance I guess or a girlfriend,

1362
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 2: and then Sophie's sort of the same boat. Should those

1363
01:03:55,480 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 2: three the no kids alliance honestly think about sort of

1364
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 2: teaming up to help their chances of winning this game? Like,

1365
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 2: I guess My point is, can either of those three

1366
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 2: get to the end with these other people with these

1367
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 2: big families, beautiful families, young families at times, and like,

1368
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, convince the jury to give them the

1369
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 2: two million dollars, Like that's a hell of an advantage

1370
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 2: for your people with the kids. I think I think

1371
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 2: they should think about them.

1372
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,439
Speaker 4: It's an interesting point. I mean, if you're sitting there,

1373
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 4: if Michelle is sitting there next to Jeremy who's a

1374
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 4: firefighter and has four kids, and you've when you see

1375
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 4: those kids, yeah, anybody's kids, they Yeah, you've spent the

1376
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 4: afternoon with them. It's totally different than hearing about this

1377
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 4: family back home.

1378
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 2: Trey. What do you think?

1379
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a good question, because yeah, you're right.

1380
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 3: I mean it's an easier pitch for Jeremy to be like, yeah,

1381
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 3: I've got five kids and I'm a firefighter. You should

1382
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 3: give me two million dollars. I got a supportal, I

1383
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 3: gotta feed a whole bunch of people. But and you

1384
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 3: look at it, it's like Sophie's sitting in a pretty

1385
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 3: good place. Maybe she decides to bound to join up

1386
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 3: with the Michelle who've been voting with her the past

1387
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 3: couple of weeks. Could be an alliance there there. I mean,

1388
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 3: if people are getting together over playing poker away from

1389
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 3: survivor kids, is just as good of a reason.

1390
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Something to watch. I mean

1391
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 2: those three too, you feel like all three of them

1392
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 2: would look at the other two and go, I could

1393
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 2: beat them. I think I have a case to be

1394
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 2: made here sitting at the end, And maybe it'd be

1395
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 2: a little bit more difficult if you're sitting beside a

1396
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 2: Yeah Tyson, or even a Sarah or Kim of course

1397
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 2: or something like that. Yeah, something to keep an eye

1398
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 2: on so well, like we said, Tony looks like he's

1399
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 2: gonna lose it next week and go bonkers. Do you

1400
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 2: think that's a little fake out here by the editing,

1401
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 2: or is Tony maybe in threat of being voted out?

1402
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 2: I guess I'm asking who do you think goes goes

1403
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 2: to the edge of extinction next week? If you had

1404
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 2: to make a guess, I don't care who answers this.

1405
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I don't trust any of the editing. I

1406
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 5: don't think that really does God us in any direction.

1407
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 5: But I think that without that immunity auto that he

1408
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 5: had this week, I think Tony might have been in

1409
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 5: trouble anyway. So I think that he could be a

1410
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 5: bit of a target next week. So you know, it's

1411
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 5: so hard, though, it's so hard. I mean, I get

1412
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 5: so confused between each episode, now, you know.

1413
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, here's the better question. Here's the better question.

1414
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 2: Will this alliance, this voting block that we've seen the

1415
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 2: five of them, Tony, ben Nick, and then Sophie and Sarah.

1416
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 2: Next week we sit down to record this, are we

1417
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 2: still talking about that sort of what appears to them

1418
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 2: be now a power alliance and that they're still good

1419
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 2: will one of the other four be going home next week.

1420
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 3: I guess it depends what in the world is in

1421
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 3: that bag, what you've gotten that bag. Jeff Probs is

1422
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 3: telling us that Survivor Capitalism is going to be huge,

1423
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 3: and when that bag shows up, it tends to be

1424
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 3: somebody sent you something from Edge of Extinction? Do you

1425
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 3: want to buy it for your fire tokens?

1426
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 4: So?

1427
01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, Tony seems like he is

1428
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 3: always in danger of being voted out if he doesn't

1429
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 3: have something around his neck. But maybe they're sending him

1430
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 3: something around his neck. I don't know. I mean, Nick

1431
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 3: was talking last week about wanting to backstab somebody. I

1432
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 3: think the vote wasn't necessarily a backstab last night, So

1433
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe him and Michelle, as they're twosome,

1434
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 3: are able to flip to the other side and say,

1435
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 3: let's see you later, Tony, Let's see you later, Sarah.

1436
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 3: You know, Sophie has the IDOL, so perhaps she's a

1437
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 3: little bit safe. But the game is a foot again.

1438
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: I think Nick should get a little bit of credit.

1439
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 1: He was potentially a runner up for me for MVP,

1440
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 1: not because he did anything exceptional this episode, but last

1441
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 1: week he got some votes. If I'm not mistaken, he

1442
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 1: was on the outskirts and could have easily been, you know,

1443
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 1: one of the hyaenas, as Tony said, But he stepped

1444
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: up in tribal council last week and said, I want

1445
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 1: to play the game. I want to be in an alliance,

1446
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, he is in an alliance

1447
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: and no votes for him, and he's on a team

1448
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: at least, and now he's got some outlook at the

1449
01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:57,959
Speaker 1: very least.

1450
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 2: I am worried about my Survivor winner pick Kim for

1451
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 2: next week. I I who yeah, because you know, of

1452
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 2: course we already saw Sarah and Tony have that big

1453
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 2: discussion of like maybe it should be Kim. Should we

1454
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 2: go for Kim? And if she doesn't have anything around

1455
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,640
Speaker 2: her neck, I'm worried for her that they're gonna be like, well,

1456
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 2: well she's another big player, get her out if that

1457
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 2: alliance does in fact stick together. But maybe she can

1458
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 2: work her magic and sort of would you.

1459
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:30,719
Speaker 3: Say that way back in Jeremy is ahead of Kim

1460
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 3: in the threat level, because that's a thing that Tony

1461
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:35,600
Speaker 3: certainly weighs. Who's the bigger meat shield. Would it be

1462
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:38,879
Speaker 3: Jeremy over Kim despite the fact that Kim wins more challenges?

1463
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 4: Wow?

1464
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 2: That is yeah. See, uh, that's a great question. I

1465
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,679
Speaker 2: don't know their neck and neck in both being threats

1466
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 2: for different reasons. I think I would put Kim a

1467
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 2: little bit higher than Jeremy right now, and I think

1468
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 2: a big part of it is I I like her

1469
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 2: chances to win a challenge more than Jeremy's. Yeah, yep,

1470
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 2: And you know, you know, you, you know you have

1471
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 2: to consider too, she already found an idol? Is that

1472
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 2: in the back of their minds? Like, damn? Does she

1473
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 2: sort of have a good read on where those are?

1474
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 2: Could she find the one she just played? Yeah? I

1475
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 2: guess I'll put Kim just ahead of Jeremy, but does

1476
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 2: feel like one of those two will be in the

1477
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 2: crosshairs next week?

1478
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 4: I say, yeah, Kim is definitely a bigger threat than

1479
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 4: Jeremy right now, simply because she has a super tight

1480
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 4: alliance with Denise, which was fully on display when she

1481
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 4: played her idol for Denise inexplicably, and she's a challenge

1482
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 4: beast and people seem to like her. Although Jeremy is

1483
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 4: a very well liked guy on in the game, but

1484
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 4: he also seems to be a free agent. So I

1485
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 4: think that Sophie. If they don't start targeting Sophie soon,

1486
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 4: then it's she's gonna win the game. She has an idol, yes, so,

1487
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 4: but do they know that. I don't think they know that,

1488
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 4: but so I would. I would be targeting her or

1489
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,719
Speaker 4: whoever her number two is, which seems to be Sarah.

1490
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:04,759
Speaker 4: So put me down for Sarah.

1491
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 2: Well that's exactly what Kim wanted to do, right, Yeah,

1492
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 2: that's what Kim was saying. We got to break up

1493
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 2: those two. They're powerful right now. So yeah, it will

1494
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 2: be interesting next week to see if Kim and Jeremy

1495
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 2: try to sell the each other out right right being

1496
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 2: on the on the on the ropes, do they just

1497
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 2: like turn their back completely on each other and be

1498
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 2: like try to make their case of like why you

1499
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 2: got to get rid of the other one? Could be

1500
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 2: something to see and maybe Denise is in that mix too,

1501
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 2: but Denise will probably wisely just like lie low another week. Yeah,

1502
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 2: and uh and let them maybe take a shot at

1503
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,679
Speaker 2: Jeremy or Kim. We'll see, all right, get your questions

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01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 2: in for next week's No Buffs episode email no dunks

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Speaker 2: at the Athletic dot Com. Make sure you throw a

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Speaker 2: survivor in the subject. Later tonight, the final two rounds

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Speaker 2: of NBA Horse Challenge. They're on ESPN. We just learned

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Speaker 2: before sitting down and record this one. They don't start

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Speaker 2: until nine pm Eastern.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a long night, stuck up on energy,

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Speaker 3: stuck up on that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the semifinals are Mike Conley, Johnson Phillips, and

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Speaker 2: then Zach Lavine versus Ali Quigley. Two winners of those

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Speaker 2: matchups will face some of the finals. We'll see it

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Speaker 2: all tonight and yeah, following that, we're once again going

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Speaker 2: to record an instant NBA Horse Recap podcast. Oh boy,

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Speaker 2: here we go. Yeah, we did forty minutes last time.

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Speaker 2: Can we do at least thirty tonight? We will see,

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Speaker 2: but that'll go up very very late on Thursday night

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Speaker 2: into early Friday morning. Until next time, try to spoken