WEBVTT - The Group Chat Episode 37: Combine Impressions (Feat. Joey Mulinaro) 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.960 This episode of the Group Chat is brought to you 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:06.640 by Lift. Skip the hassle of finding and paying for 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:20.320 parking take lift instead. M M. You've been added to 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:23.919 the group chat with your friends Caroline, can Max Sensen, 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:28.520 and Will Brian. Welcome to the group Chat. Day whatever 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:34.280 of the combine? What is today? Thursday? So is that 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:39.280 day four, day five, day one hundred of NFL combine. 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:42.600 We can confirm the breaking news really off the top 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:46.800 of this is that Will is alive and and well, 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:50.640 we don't know about bruised. We haven't confirmed any any 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:55.120 bruises or anything like that. It was really concerned about 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:57.840 his calves fitting into the ski boots, so we hope 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:00.400 that worked for him. But it has been a reductive 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:02.960 NFL Combine for us here in Indianapolis. We've gotten a 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:06.240 lot of, uh, just good things from either experts or 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:09.240 listening to the prospects. I always enjoyed this time, really 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:11.040 just for the stories that come out of the combine. 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:14.279 There's always a few good that stick out from the rest. 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:19.280 What's so far has been your favorite NFL Combine story. 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:23.240 It's a good question, I think, and I know you 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:25.600 tweeted this in response to the quote I put out 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:29.720 from from him, but, um, javon Kin lost story really yeah. 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.039 I don't know if I would say it's a combine story. 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:34.200 It's just it's just his story and many of us 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:36.440 have heard it at this point, but he kind of 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:38.520 told it again at least part of it. I mean, 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:45.040 the guy homeless just such a really difficult upbringing, and 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:47.480 I just thought, it's every time he talks about it, 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:49.680 it's just fascinating. And so to hear him talk about 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:52.760 being eleven years old by himself on a Greyhound bus 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:56.080 from DC to South Carolina and just all of the 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:59.280 how fast he had to grow up really um, and 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:01.360 he mentioned he was I didn't go to junior college 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:04.320 to then be like, Okay, now I'm gonna, you know, 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:06.600 prove it here and I'm gonna go to SEC school 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:08.280 and then from there I'm gonna make it to the league. 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:09.920 He was like, I just went to junior college because 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:11.560 it was a place where I could sleep and I 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:13.959 was gonna have food regularly. And it kind of puts 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:17.120 a lot in perspective. Um, obviously that these guys here 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:19.720 chasing an NFL dream. He was just looking for some 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:23.520 stability in his life. So um, everyone's rooting for him. 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:25.640 I'm really excited to see just kind of where he 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:28.440 ends up, and we'll be curious to follow him wherever. 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:30.400 That is, just because of all he's kind of had 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:32.519 to overcome just to get this far. Yeah, he's definitely 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:34.359 my favorite story to come out of the combine, to 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:37.160 of just getting to know these kids, because you know, 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:41.880 he even made a comment that he understands why people 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:43.520 are asking the questions about it. But I thought at 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:45.799 the podium it was interesting to see him say it's 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:48.200 not a remarkable story. He kind of, you know, leaned in. 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:51.520 He was like, this is not I get why you're asking, 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:54.280 but it's not a remarkable story. It's it's my story 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:57.080 and it's been my reality. But no one really started 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:59.440 to pay attention until the Senior Bowl, which is when 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:01.720 the NFL starts to get to know these prospects. And 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:03.640 so that's just really what this week it continues to do. 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:05.760 We hear the scouts and everyone say at all the time. 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:09.120 This week at the NFL Combine is just another step 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:11.760 in this big picture of who these players are, and 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:14.200 it has been really cool to see um some of 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:18.600 these stories come out. Kin Law, he's a South Carolina gamecock. Um, 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:21.200 so those of you listening in the Carolinas, he's definitely 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:24.600 one that we have seen for a couple of years 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.079 and it's crazy that. I mean, he's even been linked 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:30.400 in a couple of mock drafts of of potentially coming 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:33.280 to Carolina or staying in the Carolina. So, um, I 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:35.920 think that's definitely one of my favorite favorite stories. But 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:39.360 another favorite story is actually happening later on the podcast. 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.680 Um there's always random things that happened either in media 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:46.320 row or you'll see something on Twitter. A good thing 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.520 that came out on Twitter earlier today is apparently they 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:52.600 ran out of diet pepsi in the media workroom. This 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:56.520 was a big deal for some writers that were up there. Um, 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:58.920 I believe some tensions were high and some words were 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:04.160 exchanged over diet pepsi. Needing the diet pepsi. Apparently they 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:06.880 were coming at it, they were coming at five, but 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:09.640 that didn't help them right now. They needed it right now. 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:12.000 So all of those even stories that come out of 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:15.080 this crazy week of the entire INNFL taking over Indianapolis. 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:17.800 But my favorite, all time favorite is coming later on 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:20.960 the show because there were so many celebrities here. I 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:23.400 mean so many Nick Saban. I don't know if you've 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:25.640 seen that Nick Sabans here at coach Oh no, you're 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:29.080 excited about that. Matt coach O. Uh, Colin Cowhard, he 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.719 even came out and we we talked to every single 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:35.440 one of Andrew Luckyn and Andrew never does media like this. 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:38.400 Andrew Lucky even stopped by um. So stick around because 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:40.680 that is coming later on in the podcast. But today 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:44.320 it was defensive line and linebackers at defensive front seven 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:46.920 up at the podium. I mean, some interesting stuff from 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:49.359 some Baylor kids. We were able to hear from a 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:52.520 couple of Yoda quotes. So from today, Max, what was 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:54.920 what was the most intriguing thing you heard at the podium? Well, 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:58.039 James Lynch, the defensive lineman from Baylor, and Clay Johnston, 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:01.719 the linebacker from Baylor, both available, and they were surrounded 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.760 by folks from Charlotte who were asking about a couple 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.080 of coaches. Um, So we kind of had to warn them. 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:09.480 We were like, hey, yeah, we're from Charlotte, so we're 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:12.040 about to ask you a bunch of questions about Matt 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.200 Rule and Phil snow Um. And they were really good 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:18.120 sports about it. I mean, their praise for these coaches 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:22.800 was just effusive. Um, I mean and talking about how 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:25.480 much they love these guys. I mean it's not just like, yeah, 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:27.680 these these guys are really good coaches. I learned a lot. 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:30.880 It was like, No, I loved my time with coach Snow, 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:34.920 and UM, I really do think that that's kind of 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:37.640 the That's what Matt Rules trying is going to try 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:40.560 to do in Carolina. It is a family type environment 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:42.840 with his coaching staff. There's a lot of really tight 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:46.520 bonds and that extends to his players. Um. You can 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:49.000 you can tell just the connection that was formed. And 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:50.880 I think the players believe that's a big reason why 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:54.240 they had success was because everyone was a lot more selfless. 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.039 They all sort of bought in and we're playing for 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.320 each other and for these coaches. And I think that's 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.680 that's why. Yes, they had some talent, they brought in 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:03.960 some talented players in that program, but I think it 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.640 was the intangible element that really they felt put them 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:10.400 over the top. And Uh, both both guys were entertaining 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:12.520 to listen to Phil Snow. Like we've heard a lot 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:15.360 about Joe Brady, we haven't heard as much about Phil Snow, right, 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:18.400 you know, he's kind of the older, old school defensive. 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:20.640 Everyone's always focus on the offense and the fireworks that 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:22.600 l s U put up. But it was interesting to 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:24.280 learn a little bit more about Phil and to hear 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:25.840 them say, you know, a little bit more about the 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:29.400 origins of the Yoda nickname. And Clay told me that 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:31.039 he thinks he might have been the one who started that. 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:33.159 He actually got a little bit of trouble because it 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:36.200 was like Phil Snow had never heard of Yoda, and 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:38.800 what are you talking about? But he said, he's just this, 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:42.840 He's this old guy who's a super genius um and 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:45.280 they all he owes all of his football knowledge and 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:47.039 the ability he has right now to go on a 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.680 white board with these NFL teams and really map out 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:52.960 what these coverages look like and dissecting the schemes. All 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:54.800 of that he credits to Phil Snow and how he 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:58.679 prepared him for this. Um. So those guys Lynch Lynch too, 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:01.839 I mean, it was they swear by him, and we 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:03.760 all know it's an adjustment going from the college to 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:05.840 pro level. But man, if you listen to those two 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:08.080 kids talk Lynch and Johnston, they will tell you that 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:11.280 anybody in that Panther's locker room that you're about to 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:13.200 become a much better player from getting work with these 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:15.480 two coaches. I thought it was interesting Lynch talked about 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:18.400 how when he first got to Baylor that Snow taught 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:20.840 him the offense first, and that was that. I thought 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:23.600 that was an interesting Snow clip from him. Um, just 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:25.880 learning the offense first and then kind of doing it 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:27.760 back us. And it makes sense too. I mean, you know, 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.160 if I've heard in the past, coaches will use a 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:32.920 sort of tactic to say, you know, the best way 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:34.720 we can play defense is to know what the offense 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:37.160 is trying to do. Right, So let's in Phil Snow's mind, 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.680 it was clearly we've got to make sure our kids 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:42.280 understand what the offense is trying to do to them, 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:44.240 and then we can build off that and say here's 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.640 how we're going to defend it. So, um, yeah, that 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:48.280 was that was an interesting point he made, and it 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:50.560 it makes sense. Well, you hear all the time of 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:53.000 Matt Role every time he says, you know, we want teachers. 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:56.000 We want people who can you know, actually coach these 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:59.320 kids and and and give them more than just you know, 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:01.280 go to this I on this play. It's it's the 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.480 why behind it. So it was it was interesting. I 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:05.920 liked that quote from him to have just no this 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:08.000 is this is real. They don't just talk this talk, 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:10.080 they're actually doing it. They're form players can say it, 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:13.080 but it still doesn't The quote of the day which 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:17.360 Johnston when he said Snow is amazing. We call him 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:20.440 the Yoda, that's his nickname. He's just this old man. 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.720 That's a super genius. Johnson said. So maybe he did 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:25.920 get in trouble a little bit for Yoda, but let's 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:29.760 just show Snow he's just an old man. Yeah, that's 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:32.080 a super genius. I think that might dig a hole 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:35.480 a little bit. He called him like a lovable grandpa. 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:37.679 I don't know. I don't know that Philip would actually 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:41.440 love that either. He actually probably he probably would. But 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:44.480 a lot of really cool things from the comment what 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:46.439 what's kind of like your wrap up of of what 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:48.199 you had here? Well, today was a big day too, 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:50.480 just because there were some heavy hitters at the podium 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:52.480 as well. And Derek Brown and Isaiah Simmons, as we 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.080 talked about on our preview episode of the Group Chat, 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:57.400 those are the two names that have been kind of 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:01.520 connected to Carolina early on in this process. Us. Um. 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:03.400 First of all, Derek Brown, just when he's you know 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:06.760 you're standing next to him, is an imposing figure. Not 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:11.440 the most um outspoken guy, pretty quiet, but he doesn't 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:13.640 need to do a whole lot of talking. UM. That guy. 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:16.200 You can just you can just see that he's a 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:19.800 lot to deal with um in the trenches. UM. So, 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:21.720 I was just impressed with the way he kind of 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.400 carries himself. He looks like a guy that's all business. 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:27.920 And every LSU player that I I heard from this week, 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.599 everyone gets asked variation of this question, right, who was 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.160 the toughest player you win against all of them on 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:35.680 that LSU football team, said Derek Brown. I mean they 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:37.839 were in unison on that one. It was like that dude, 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.439 it was Edwards Hilaire, the running back. I'm saying that right. 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:43.960 He's he told he told me it was like Derek 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:46.520 Brown just does whatever he wants to do. So that 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:48.600 that dude is a good player. I think he's in 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:52.520 the conversation for among the best player in this draft. UM, 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:55.080 and so is Isaiah Simmons. Who's who's the Clemson products 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:56.680 and he was. He was interesting to talk to you 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:59.400 because he's a guy. And he made this point he's 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:02.520 sort of dition lists now, and he said, you know, 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:04.679 years ago that was a knock. It was if your 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:06.840 position list, it's like, well, you can do a bunch 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:09.080 of things, but you're a master of none quote unquote. 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:12.720 Today's NFL being position list is an asset. Uh And 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:15.679 with the way defenses want to potentially utilize him safety 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.440 linebacker close to the line of scrimmage as a Russian end, 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:19.959 I mean, he can do a whole bunch of different things, 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:22.520 and he feels like that's gonna make him really attractive 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:26.040 to these NFL teams. And I agree. I think he's 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:27.959 he's he's right, and he's a really good athlete. He 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:30.160 knows the defense so well from having to do all 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:32.680 those different things, and I think teams in that top 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:34.120 ten for sure are going to take a hard look 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:36.840 at Simmons. Another question that's always asked, at least in 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:39.400 my one couple of days of being here, is they 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:41.600 always ask who do you compare yourself too. I thought 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:44.280 it was interesting that Simmons said Jalen Ramsey, who's a 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:47.120 corner tyrone Matthew who's a safety, and Von Miller, who's 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:49.000 an edge. Maybe if you just mix them all together, 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:51.240 you would get Isaiah Simmons. I found that interesting. Also 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.400 liked how he said, you know, the new NFL is 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:55.480 these tight ends, and when you look at the Empire, 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:58.319 these tight ends are having. Well that doesn't fit your 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:02.640 traditional linebacker. But he's that speed linebacker that can run around. 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:04.600 And when I was listening to him speak and kind 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:06.680 of how he approaches the game, it did remind me 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:08.959 a little bit of Darius Leonard, who was taken with 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:10.800 the Colts when I was there, and he's not used 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:13.960 in that traditional linebacker because he's so quick from sideline 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.600 to sideline. So he he's a little bit of you know, 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:18.800 he might be that nickel or he might drop back, 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:22.160 but he is the linebacker. He's that quarterback um of 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:24.600 the defense. So I am just curious though with Isaiah 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:28.640 Simmons listening to him, is his knowledge there to be 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:31.760 that quarterback of the defense? You think so? I mean 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:33.640 with the way he's used to Clempson, the success that 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:35.920 Clemson has had, the way that you know, you hear 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:38.719 about Dabbo and those coaches being teachers but I think 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:40.400 that might be a big question for him. I haven't 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:43.120 heard the raven review about his football i Q, and 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:45.360 I feel like you normally hear that as you go 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:47.000 through this of you know, he's a guy that can 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:50.320 definitely run that defense. But I think it's crazy too that, 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:55.280 you know, Dary Brown arguably the best player in this draft, 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:58.000 but he's linked to the Panthers dropping a seven. So 0:11:58.040 --> 0:11:59.559 I think when you look in that top ten, that's 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:02.080 what makes an interesting a team. They want quarterbacks, they 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.280 want to do all these things. But you could have 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.880 the best guy dropped to seven and end up coming 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:10.040 to the Panthers. Yeah. Look, I know Chase Young has 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:11.640 certainly a lot to say about being the best player 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:13.880 in this draft. He came out here today and declared 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:16.160 that I think a lot of people would agree, Um, 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:19.760 Joe Burrow. Of course, at the quarterback position, the best 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:22.040 quarterbacks are going to be valued a little more heavily 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:24.800 than the best interior defensive lineman. That's just a reality 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:26.760 of the way this league is right now. Everyone who 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:29.640 doesn't have a quarterback is desperate to find one. So yeah, 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:31.560 I think if you're a team sitting in the position 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:33.959 like the Panthers are at seven. If you're gonna take 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:36.600 a best available player approach, depending on what happens in 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:38.480 front of you, yeah, you might have somebody fall into 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:40.720 your lap, very much like what happened in two thousand 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:43.240 twelve with Louke Kikley, who you know at a at 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:45.880 a linebacker spot. Clearly, if you look back on that 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:48.680 now a Hall of Fame linebacker following to where he 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:50.440 did at nine, people probably feel like they should have 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:53.319 taken him or consider taking him a little earlier. Um, 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:55.680 so that that can happen. And I think, yeah, Derek 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:59.120 Brown with his with his talent level, you just don't 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:02.080 see guys at a size able to do what he 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:06.319 can do very often. I mean it's it's rare, um, 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:07.840 but he might be on the board and that would 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.360 certainly be intriguing. Yeah, it is crazy, go ahead. I 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:12.400 mean it's it's possible with there might be a quarterback 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:14.440 run early and both of those guys are sitting there 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:16.000 at seven. If they have their pick of those two, 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:18.240 that would be an interesting conversation, right, I mean your value, 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:21.000 what are you weighing? You know, you've got an interior disruptor, 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:22.680 a guy at the line of scrimmage. You've talked about 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:24.800 the Panthers run defense and how all the issues they 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:26.880 had last year, you'd certainly feel like, man, okay, that's 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:29.080 a big way we can address that right off the bat. 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:33.240 But Simmons too as a playmaking linebacker, as Caroline you mentioned, 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:34.400 he was talking about it, how are you going to 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:36.400 defend the kittles and Kelsey's in the world these days? 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:38.080 You need somebody like me to do that? And he 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:40.920 makes a compelling point. Um, He's he's got that rare 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:44.079 ability and a space linebacker to cover running backs like 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.120 Christian McCaffrey. We're going to see more and more running 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:49.040 backs doing what Christians doing. That's kind of the direction 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:52.040 this is all going. So Um, a talent like Simmons 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:55.080 is also intriguing one. So we'll we'll see where. We've 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:57.280 still got a little ways to go before the Panthers 0:13:57.280 --> 0:13:59.839 are on the clock. Um, but it's it's become a 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:02.760 prety clear that these guys are certainly in that conversation 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:04.720 and it's getting down to the point in the combine 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:07.200 where there's really just one more day of media availability 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:09.720 and then you start getting all on the field testing 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:13.719 where we get to hear about hip flexibility, uh, the 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:17.760 knee drive fast forty, all of those that we've already 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:21.640 heard about, the hand size of of many of these guys. Yes, 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:23.760 who is twitchy. But we now have to get to 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:25.840 the parts of the podcast. That is one of my 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:28.840 favorite parts from this entire combine. So when we had 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:31.360 so many celebrities stop, I'm just back to back. They 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:34.600 were lined up at the table to come on the 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:38.680 group chat. It was crazy, but really it's linked to 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.280 one man we had. So when you may know he 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:45.640 went viral on Twitter for his Nick Saban impersonation about 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:49.480 picking his favorite having to pick between Thanksgiving sides. So 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:53.200 it was Joey Molinaro. He is from Indianapolis. He works 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:55.280 for a radio station here in town. But he said 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:59.240 he started this and now it has grown into um, 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:01.120 I don't want to say full time business, but we 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:04.080 think it should be because here's what he did for is. 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:06.520 I won't say anymore about because it was fantastic, But 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:10.280 here's a little segment we did with many many personalities, 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:12.840 but all stimming from one man. We have one of 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:16.880 our first guests. So on this podcast, we we have 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.760 some guests that come in but normally it's me making 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.480 a full of myself. Um, I am going to show 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:25.000 off who that PERSONA is a little bit later, but 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:27.440 we have our first guests. Although this is a bit 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:30.160 of a package deal, I think is the best way 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:35.600 to put it. It's it's it's one person, multiple personalities, 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:39.920 several guests waiting to join. They really are and and 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:41.960 I wish you know, you're not gonna be able to 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:45.480 recognize this person necessarily over audio, but I think if 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:49.920 you see who we're talking about, I'll post something. Um, 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:53.760 you'll recognize him because he's gone viral many times. Any 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:58.360 times viral? How does that sound? Yeah, it's like you know, 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:01.240 you tell your grandma that and she's like, well, what's 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:05.080 going on to the doctor problem? Check out that? That 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:08.680 doesn't sound good? But yeah, I know it's it's been fun, 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:11.360 it's been wild. Well, we have Joey here, Joey you 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:14.400 you gotta tell us how the heck did this come about? 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:17.120 Have you always been able to do impersonations? Yeah, I 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:19.400 mean I've tried. Like you know, I tell people that 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:22.120 I was kind of like the living room impersonator grown up, right, 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:25.680 I do like school teachers and different you know, family 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.600 friends and stuff like that. But then once I know, 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:31.840 got into the professional media world or whatever, I was like, 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.040 if I want to keep doing this, I need to 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.760 do people that other people know besides just like my 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:39.960 fifth grade teacher. Um, and so I started giving it 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:42.520 a shot and you know, going for it. Well, you 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:45.200 may be able to recognize him when we asked him 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:48.440 to do the Nick Saban. I think that's I think 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:52.400 Andrew Luck is your best impersonation personally. We're gonna we're 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:54.080 gonna talk to him in a little bit. You got 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:55.600 a lot. I mean you were up close and personal 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:58.320 with him. That's why I think it's so good, because 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:02.800 the cadence everything is so good. So we're we're going 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:05.280 to talk to Andrew and just a little bit. Um. 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:08.439 But Nick Saban is what really got you the most viral. 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:12.440 That's where people may yes, UM, tell us how did 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:14.119 that come about? When did you think about, Oh, I 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:16.679 should definitely have Nick Saban talk about Thanksgiving it and 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:18.960 get that going. Yeah, it was because, like you said, 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:21.159 Luck was the first one that I did. Um, So 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:23.840 then I started once he retired. Um, I was like, 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:26.320 I gotta figure out somebody else that I can do, 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:30.960 and um, it. It was around Thanksgiving time obviously, and 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:33.520 I was like, I don't think anybody's done anything with 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:36.959 that sabing bit that um he did with Maria Taylor 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:39.399 right where he was the quid asking, And I was like, 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:43.520 it'd be funny if talking about Thanksgiving, you know, he's 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.120 talking about instead of two different quarterbacks, he's talking about 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:49.560 two different options of food, you know, whether it besides 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:52.720 or desserts or whatever it is. And um, you know 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.439 it was just a quick fifteen second bit and you know, 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:58.120 called on with the right audience and how many views 0:17:58.160 --> 0:17:59.639 does that have? Do you know? Do you keep up 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:02.560 with it? No? Um? I mean it's back in November, 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:04.840 so last time I checked a couple of million something 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:06.960 like that. But that's so fun. In a while, it 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:08.920 was worth it. So now I hope everyone out there 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:11.560 knows who we've got on here. But really we've got 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:13.560 to talk about the combine and there's no one better 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:16.920 that knows, you know, Indie and the Combine than Andrew Um. 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:19.840 So we'd love to hear from Andrew of just you know, 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:23.040 why why is Indie? Why why should the combine stay Indie? 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:29.320 It's it's a perfect place of of a centralized location, 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:33.000 a lot of great architecture around, whether it be Lucas 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:37.360 Soil or the convention center. Where everything is is a 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:41.480 very very good spot. Uh. Like I said, essentially located 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:45.000 a lot of good food, a good restaurants, and good 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:51.280 places to hang out. But it's snowing, Andrew, it's snowing here. 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:52.960 I mean what these l a people, they don't know 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:55.600