1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Time for a weekly conversation with Pride of the Jaguars 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: running back Fred Taylor. The Dallas Cowboys are in town 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: to face the Jacksonville Jaguars in week fifteen. Meaningful December 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: football games continue, and here we are, Fred, what's up? 5 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: Just another Sunday JP or or at least that's what 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: we would like to think. Right. You got the Dallas 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: Cowboys in Jacksonville, Florida. Obviously it's gonna be a crazy atmosphere, 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: perfect timing for the guys. No excuses, no letdowns. This 9 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: is opportunities, just to upset someone and keep your hopes 10 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: alive to potentially make a playoff run. Uh So, I 11 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: expected to be a crazy, crazy game. The Cowboys have 12 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: been on upset alert the entire week, at least by 13 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: all of the expert analysts you know on those other shows. 14 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: But down in Jacksonville, we've we've had them on upset 15 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: alert the entire season, and I think these guys can 16 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: get it done today. Well, the last time the Jaguars 17 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: came off a big win against a perennial playoff team 18 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: was when they beat Baltimore, and then the next week 19 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: they laid an egg in Detroit. Didn't play well well 20 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: last week, they beat Tennessee finally first time in a 21 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: long time up in Nashville. The approach this week will 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:23,639 Speaker 1: be key how they handle the success and then move forward. 23 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: Like you said, though, it's a ten and three Dallas 24 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: Cowboys team. It's not the Detroit Lions that they're coming 25 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: up this week. Detroit's playing well, Don't get me wrong, 26 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: but correct. I think the focus should be there this 27 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: week for this team. Oh without it, though, I do 28 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: think they play up to the level of their competition, 29 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: which is, you know, as human nature at times. I mean, 30 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: these are very competitive guys, a young group of guys 31 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: who quite frankly, just don't know any better most at 32 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: a time. But they do know it's the Dallas Cowboys. 33 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: They know what comes with that. Uh. They know that 34 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: Prescott has coming into town. They know Ezekiel Elliet is 35 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: coming to town. Michael Parsons the raging defensive rookie of 36 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 1: the year. Uh, they know Lawrence has come to town. 37 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: Tray Von Digs is coming to town, guy who let 38 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: the NFL and interceptions a year ago. So they know 39 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: they have some great names coming to town, followed by 40 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 1: the entire Cowboys fan base, which might be sort of 41 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: like public Enemy number one hitting somewhere in Jacksonville. They 42 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: have fans everywhere everywhere, right, all these undercovered fans that 43 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: are living in Jacksonville will be in the stadium. So, 44 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: but it's a tall task. I think it's not too 45 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: tall for the guys. I think they're gonna go out 46 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: there and perform well. But it all starts with minimizing 47 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: Dallas is run game, you know, And I know we'll 48 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: get into that JP, but I think it starts there, 49 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: and then from there you do have to get after 50 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, get him up his mark, which can be done. 51 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: The pressure showed up a bit more a week ago 52 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: versus the Titans, so they have to duplicate that and 53 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: on the others to dot From offensive standpoint, this game, 54 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: you got their pacing, the best defensive front and the 55 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: entire NFL. So if they can continue their streak of 56 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: not allowing the sack, they will win this game. Fred 57 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: Taylor with us, all right, you mentioned the running backs. 58 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott has been established there for a long time, obviously, 59 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: but Tony Pollard's really come on the last year or so, 60 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: and this year he's out gaining Zeke, and they've got 61 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: two different style of running backs back there, and they're 62 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: both effective. What do you like about Pollard and Elliott? 63 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: Maybe as a tandem, but certainly individually I love him 64 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: as a tandem. I think from a longevity standpoint, they 65 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: take care of each other. You know, Zeke has been 66 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: a star straight out Ohio State. He made his mark 67 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: on the NFL by being the league leading rusher multiple occasions. 68 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: But he slowed down something. He's getting up there a 69 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: bit in the ages, approaching his thirties. But they have 70 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: an amazing insurance policy. And Tony Pollard guy they drafted 71 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, so he's been around. Maybe I don't 72 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: want to shorten his career something like that, but he's 73 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: been around, uh as long as Zeke. But a guy 74 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: who has tremendous bursts, you know, and he's out playing Zeke. 75 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: As you said it a lot of times. We like 76 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: to say the running back position is the luck of 77 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: the draw, meaning some guys you get in there. Sometimes 78 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: this guy gets a great blocking opportunity and gets a hold, 79 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: while this guy may not. And regardless of that, you 80 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: still want to be dynamic and make a play and 81 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: put your your your team in a great UH position 82 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: to capitalize by scoring. But they have two guys that 83 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: are threats. Pollard can take it a distance with his speed. 84 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: Zeke he could do the same. Zeke's gonna give you 85 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: more power UH. Poler is gonna give you more jump 86 00:04:55,960 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: cut slashing ability. But together they make up the best 87 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: tandem UH in the NFL. Right on the other side, 88 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: it's been a little bit since Travis E. T N 89 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: has put it together, at least statistically. Some you know, 90 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: the game situations have dictated some of that. Trevor's playing well, 91 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: they're throwing it, they'll have to rally whatever happens, right 92 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: they get away away from it, or it's just not 93 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: effective where he's dinged up right. Well, this is one 94 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: of those weeks where they better run the ball and 95 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,799 Speaker 1: stay ahead of the chains. And yes, Trevor is playing 96 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: well and throwing well. He's the FC offensive player of 97 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: the week. But you don't want to get in the 98 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: habit as you mentioned earlier, standing back there at third eight, 99 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: third and ten with Michael Parsons and Lawrence coming off 100 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: the edge. So this seems like a Travis E. T 101 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: N game. Can they get him going, and how do 102 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: they get him going on the ground JP, You and 103 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: I both know well that if you want to minimize 104 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: pass rush, you have to run the ball effectively, or 105 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: if you do have to pass it, you don't want 106 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: to be in third and forever, meaning you know third 107 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: and seven plus you don't want to you want to 108 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: I'll avoid those to avoid those situations. Uh. And then 109 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: the third thing, if you are in those situations, you 110 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: want to be able to have certain protections called where 111 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: the backs are releasing outside so he can get a 112 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,119 Speaker 1: nice chip or I like to call him chunks front 113 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: off the defense off the pass rusher. So either way, 114 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: whether it's through run game success or being involved in 115 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: the past game, they're gonna need Travis E. T n 116 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: to be at the top of his game, whether it's 117 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: you know, a receiver out at the backfield, getting the 118 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: short uh checkdowns and then doing something with those. Those 119 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: are really extended handoffs. They're just recategorize it as a 120 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: as a reception or a pass. But I'll take those 121 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: any day of the week as long as the ball 122 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: is moving and you're not giving them uh. Huge sign 123 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: to t off on and long down situations. So UM, 124 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: but yeah, running the ball will be somewhere. They need 125 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: to start some quick here to traps, you know something 126 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: right up to gut some quick call and play some 127 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: draws to keep them off balance. Either case, they're gonna 128 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: have to mix it up really well bred Taylor with us. 129 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here looking up your career stats against the 130 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Spread. Oh man, I don't know what they 131 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: are j people, but I can't tell you this. My 132 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: rookie year, the fourth preseason game, maybe two weeks after 133 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: they called me a bust. That was crazy. I scored 134 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: my fourth first touchdown NFL career against the Dallas Cowboys 135 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: at a home preseason game. Uh So I remember that, 136 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: like well yesterday. The Cowboys were in the team that 137 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: I grew up watching. I remember to Tall Jones and 138 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: a few other guys, obviously Emma Smith back in the day, 139 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: Herschel Walker. So I was a huge Cowboys fan growing up, 140 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: and then that sort of kind of went away with time. 141 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: But um, I remember having a thirty carry game against 142 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: the Cowboys in Dallas on the turn there. We won 143 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: that game. I don't remember many more after that. I 144 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to play him many times but 145 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: the preseason game, the thirty carry game, I remember, like 146 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: happy yesterday. Well, Fred, let's go through them that. You're right, 147 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: you had in two thousand week nine, you had thirty 148 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: one carries a hundred seven yards against Dallas and three 149 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: yards of pop. That's a tough day. That's a lot 150 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: of carries. Uh, that's old school football. Into two thousand 151 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: two at Dallas. Both of those games of Dallas, this 152 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: one carries one hundred yards for you in a lost 153 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: twenty one nineteen Dallas wins, okay. And then two thousand six, 154 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: the last time Dallas played in Jacksonville, by the way, 155 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: you had twenty one carries for seventy four yards and 156 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: a touchdown. You also caught six balls on six targets 157 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 1: for forty one yards. Jags win. Alright, so I I 158 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: I guess that's just stained over a from a total 159 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: yards standpoint over a hundred yard average. Yeah. So you 160 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: were yeah, one total yards three point nine yards per 161 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: carry against Dallas. Okay, So but I have a two 162 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: and one record. That's right, all right, we'll take that. 163 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: We can do something with that. It's all about the w's, right, 164 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: It's all about the devil's and that's what it's about 165 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: today JP. So hopefully they can get it done. Bread 166 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you in the post game. Enjoy it. 167 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: I'll be here waiting to celebrate with you. Me and 168 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: my coffee like I had a week ago. I need 169 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: some of that coffee too, all right, I see it.