1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: F post game show, it's just a J and Bron 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: breaking down the Cubs and the Padres, and then we'll 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: get to the Tigers and the Guardians in a little bit. 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: But the Padres even up the series, a big win 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: for San Diego. They shut out Chicago three nothing at Wrigley, 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: just an off offense with the Machado home run, and 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: they get a little early action the one run across, 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: thanks in part to some back to back hits to 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: start the first and then a double steal off of opener. 10 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: Is that is that the difference in the game? Though 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: in your mind did get out man run? 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 2: Right? What's awesome? Forget that comes in scoredy runs. But 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 2: I will say this, the opener did not work because 14 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: then later on showed up face Manny with a base open, 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: hung them a split whack. Then it's three nothing. If 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: you're gonna make all these fancy, fancy moves to let 17 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: you know, oh, I don't want to show her to 18 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: face this top of the lineup then but he had 19 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: to face him later and then he didn't around him 20 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: and face Jackson Merrill. Right, why would you not walk 21 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: him with two hours right there? 22 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: So the only concept is that they are limiting the 23 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: amount of times that showed to. 24 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: But in big situations, don't you want your best matchup? 25 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: This is like you, I'm trying to be cute, but 26 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: I don't want to be that cute. But I'm trying 27 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: to be too cute and I'm not that cute. And 28 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, whack, Manny Machado hits one 29 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: to the freaking moon. 30 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: And I know it's the postseason, but starters start, yes, 31 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: So all of a sudden in the postseason, you're asking 32 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: a guy who only starts his entire life to do 33 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: something different. 34 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 2: And you also use Kittridge, who again was one of 35 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: your better late inning relievers. If they would have had 36 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: the lead, they would have liked to have had Kittridge up. 37 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: Now he's probably down tomorrow. I mean, I don't know 38 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: that we threw twenty some pitches. Yeah, and the two 39 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: teams that force Game three today, the bullpens are going 40 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: to be a question tomorrow. Detroit's bullpen's in better spot 41 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: than Cleveland. Kate Smith through thirty pitches in a six 42 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: to one game, right, got us two days in a row. 43 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: So of Orski two days in a row. 44 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: Right, This is why in game three, it is very 45 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: difficult for the team that was trailing one nothing because 46 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: their balls to the wall game you have. 47 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: To Dylan Te's pitch really well. In this game, he 48 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 2: went with three innings, came. 49 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: Out in the fourth three and change. 50 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: And then and then they had to go to Moury 51 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: hone for multiple innings. Mason Miller multiple innings, wore as 52 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 2: multiple innings. 53 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: Five and a third one hit, no runs from that. 54 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: Padres bullpen as good as advertiser, and. 55 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: Mason Miller has been unhittable. 56 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: Clearly, that's what the trade deadlines for. What. 57 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, making pickups like that for me in a couple 58 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 2: of big hits he did, he did a couple. He's 59 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: had a couple of hits in the series, had the 60 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: double lead off double, he's caught unbelievably. Well, I just here, 61 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 2: here's the thing. If you ain't gonna hit, you get, 62 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 2: you throw a zero spot off, you're the couch. And 63 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: two games you scored three and granted the Padres have 64 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: scored four and two games. 65 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they're pretty close in runs. 66 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 2: So that's kind of a wall us. But now you 67 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: go into this next game, Game three, it's Darvish against Tyan. 68 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. We didn't get an announced yet. 69 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: We have an announcement for who. But anyways, but the Cubs, 70 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: Cubs have to feel better about the bullpen where they 71 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: are then than the Potters do. 72 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: Right, It depends how aggressive you want to be. For example, 73 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: Mason Miller has pitched in back to back days. 74 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 2: He has thrown three days in a row before this year. 75 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: I know that, So then why can't he just pitch 76 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: again in a game three? I mean, and probably can't. 77 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: But they also they have they have a long term investment. 78 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: Sure, but okay, let's say he pitches and is he 79 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: gonna go six outs? Probably not, but could he give 80 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: them three outs in the game three? Aurez can? Miller can, 81 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: and then you get a day off. 82 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: They didn't score. I mean, it's great, we're gonna have 83 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: all these conversations this and now we're kind of more 84 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: getting in tomorrow. But they didn't score. And I even 85 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: I score Kyle Kyle Tucker got a hit at the 86 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: last inning. But they're off. Didn't do any PCA looked 87 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: over match, right, I mean, they keep swinging a breaking 88 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: balls three to two. Their podres are kind of pitching 89 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: them backwards. I mean, cease is great more a hone 90 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: has been. It's been the most of these playoffs have 91 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 2: been really no offense. The one inning for Cleveland today 92 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 2: and the Dodgers lost. Like other that it's been like, Okay, 93 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 2: it's been pitcher, pitcher and pitcher. 94 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: But this is what many modern hitters talk about. They're 95 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: like pitchings out of control. Good and now we're just 96 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 1: getting the best pitching and hitters. Approaches have changed. So 97 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: this isn't too much of a surprise, and it's early. 98 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,119 Speaker 1: It's early. Eventually you get deeper in October, guys get tired. 99 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: You see the same pitchers over and over. But in 100 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: a short series like this, it's tough. 101 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 2: The Cubs might see the same guys three days in 102 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: a row tomorrow. 103 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's what San Diego paid up for. 104 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: That's what as San Diego built their team around. Yep 105 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: and listen, I said from the get go that that 106 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: was the most fascinating series to me was the Padres 107 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: and Cubs, just because of the teams are both loaded 108 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: with star power, both of you know, great discs and that, 109 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: and that would be the most fascinating to me. The 110 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 2: the Cubs again didn't score. They scored yesterday. They scored 111 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 2: three runs on back to back homers, and they manufactured 112 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: the run in the ninth, which they kind of were 113 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: given because of some walks and a wild pitch. Can 114 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: the Cubs score? Can the Padres score tomorrow? I don't 115 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: know if you're facing bu Darvish, and if it, let's 116 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: say it. I mean, Kate Horton would look nice, nice 117 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: right now pitching coming in for the Cubs, but he's injured. 118 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 2: Right Yeah, it might be zero zero on the twelfth inning. 119 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 2: I don't know, it's gonna be amazing. And the Guardians 120 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: and Tigers it might be zero zero in that game. 121 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna get to that. But it's good pitching, it's. 122 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 2: Great pitching, and just but to watch the offense, it 123 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: wasn't even a lot of I mean, I know the 124 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: winds blowing into regularly, but there just wasn't a lot 125 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 2: of hard hit balls. 126 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: Well that's the thing. 127 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 2: Play right to tease was nice in the eighth, But look. 128 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: At the state of the lineups for both sides. The 129 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: Padres offense has some good hitters on paper, but it 130 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: has not been a strength for the team this year 131 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: for the coup to score. They were gangbusters to start 132 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: the year, but the hitters took a step back. Yeah, 133 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: Tucker was out as anybody. 134 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 2: Carson Kelly took a tip in the second half. I mean, 135 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 2: Matt Shaw has been okay. Ian's been okay. Nica Horner 136 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: has been on fire the second half. 137 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been really good. 138 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: He doesn't have the power. 139 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: No, he's a base knock runners in scoring position, come through, 140 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: make contact kind of guy. 141 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. I just I watched this game. It 142 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: was a fascinating game to watch. This a great series, strategy, strategy, 143 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: who's going to get the big hit? And Manny Machano 144 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: got the big hit. Not only get a big hit, 145 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 2: but he stood there and watched it for a long. 146 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: Time, as he should. He hadn't looked great and he 147 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: hurt himself a little bit sliding for that foul ball. No, 148 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: he's okay, it's fine. I don't know. 149 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 2: He laid there for a minute. 150 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:03,799 Speaker 1: Took some time. 151 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: It definitely took some time. 152 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, but first pitch splitter of Managa. 153 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 2: But if you watch it, and I'll give you it's 154 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: being credit for this in the broadcast. I think it 155 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: was Jesse Rodgers the interview, and I'm not a big 156 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: interview with the guy in the middle of the inning 157 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: dug out, kind of tricky, huge, I don't know. It's 158 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: takes thirty seconds, I know, but it's just kind of 159 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: weird to me. 160 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: But they usually actually give you some info. 161 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: I know they do. I don't know. It's just weird, 162 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 2: but we've done it, and I've been on the headset 163 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: when you're talking to people. But here's the thing. They 164 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: did a great job with this, and I think it 165 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: was Jesse Rodgers said, oh, he threw you last about 166 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: first pitch split and you swung, you missed at it. 167 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: Were you looking for it? Of course made it goes. 168 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: I don't look for pitches, you know. He didn't want 169 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 2: to give anything way, but hell yeah, you're looking for it, 170 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: especially with the runner on second and two outs. Guess 171 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: what you You're like, they're not gonna probably pitch to me. 172 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: Oh crap, he hung a split whack right, Yeah, that's 173 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: why you just go like this, put him on and 174 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: let Jackson Merrill left on left beat you right. 175 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,679 Speaker 1: That's what you have Inmanaga in the game for us, 176 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: in that pocket you can avoid Machado, the lane was there. Yes, 177 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: Nate chose to up in the bullpen too, if that's 178 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: what you want to go. 179 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: They had I think Colin Ray up in the bullpen. Sure, 180 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: so there was options there. Craig Council went with options 181 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: to see, give up a two run homer. 182 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: That's the game. 183 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: And I mean, listen, he's normally pretty good about you know, 184 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: he's been pretty good in his career about managing stuff. 185 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: But this time he wasn't. Didn't work. 186 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: What about Dylan Cees with a rocky postseason, passed in 187 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: a few. 188 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: Starts, but against the Cubs. 189 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: Because he was. 190 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 2: The next Cup he was traded away from the Cubs. 191 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: Walk machine this year, this time around just one intentional. 192 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: Walk, and and that was who did he walk? 193 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: He walked Carson Kelly. 194 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 2: Carson Kelly pretty sure intentionally walked Carson Kelly, and they 195 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 2: brought him more hone to punch out or to get 196 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 2: not I didn't punch him out, but to get Peter 197 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 2: Armstrong up. Yes, that was the intentional walk. 198 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: That was. It was pumping. 199 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 2: Great every time he needed it. A little slider in there. 200 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: Here's my thing with Dan Ceas he has number one 201 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: stuff he's had number one stuff for a long time, 202 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: and he's had some years where it plays for the 203 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: entire year. This happened to turn into this free agent 204 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: can't find the zone disaster. 205 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: Yeah he's still good. 206 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: He's really good. The Padres have pitching talent and it 207 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: showed up here in Chicago. So Game three is such 208 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: a fifty to fifty ball for me. 209 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 2: You want to say the Cubs have the advantage. We 210 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: don't know who's starting, and care counsel is going to 211 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: try and get cute with it. 212 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: I think the Padres have the advantage because I think 213 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: they have a better bullpen. I think they're not going 214 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: to care. Days think they're not going to care. Like 215 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: you said, Suarez has two innings, Miller has an inning. 216 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: We already ate up stream, there's four. Is Michael King 217 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: gonna appear here, maybe at least for a couple of innings, 218 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: and let's not act like he hasn't been a reliever before. 219 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: He's done that to it. 220 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if they would do that though, coming 221 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: off his injury. Maybe. 222 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: I just think that this is a game seven, elimination 223 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: game scenario in a Game three, and the Padres have 224 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: an edge in pitching talent. I think the Cubs have 225 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: a slight edge in the offense, but it's not the 226 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: offense that it looked like at the beginning of the year. 227 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens. But great series, great series, 228 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: and we get a game three. 229 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: Vascas to who they could use. I mean, I don't 230 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: know if they would want to. They have Wandy Peralta, 231 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 2: who has been pretty good for him too, David. 232 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: Morgan, Dude, they have talent. Vascas is actually a good 233 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: example of someone who was just kind of there as 234 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 1: maybe a five six seven starter. 235 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: Could be a weapon for multiple innings. I don't know 236 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: they would do that. 237 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: Though, I would try it if he says. 238 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: Okay, but then you need someone to if you win, 239 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: you need somebody to start in two days. Who bullpen 240 00:10:55,880 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: game Game one and then start vaskaz game one. 241 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: And then game two. You can go back to Brews. Yeah, 242 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: I think it's possible. The thing with Vazquez is, I 243 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: mean his vila was up pretty significantly when he came 244 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: back to the team late September. Right I'm looking his 245 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: vilo was. We were seeing some ninety sevens from him, 246 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: like he is like Kratz always likes to say, got 247 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: that heavy ball training or something, because suddenly he's used 248 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: to be I don't know, ninety two or three, and 249 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: suddenly he's hitting some ninety sevens. I give him credit. 250 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: But those are our thoughts on this one. It's the 251 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: foul territory postgame show, great series. Yes, we are powered 252 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: by MLB nine innings twenty five. Let us shift to 253 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: another game. Three Tigers and Guardians in Cleveland. It's happening. 254 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: Tigers wiffin left and right, one for fifteen with runners 255 00:11:54,640 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: in scoring position, fifteen left on base and the Eveland 256 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: Guardians do not have the world's best offense, but they 257 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: pounced late against the Tigers bullpen. They had three home 258 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: runs in this game. 259 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 2: Three home runs legit, and then the one that uh 260 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: Rokio hit was legit. That was one hundred. And then 261 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 2: the last one bow Naylor hit, he just clipped it 262 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 2: out from man. That's the old clip it out front, 263 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: flick it breaking ball after filling the ball off his foot. 264 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 2: That there was a confusion. Is all had get out 265 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: on that one? Right? There was legit. Rokios was legit 266 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: and the crowd was going crazy. The people that were there. 267 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: There it is. 268 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 2: I know, this is when they. 269 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: Went back to back doubles driving in Kwan. 270 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 2: And then then this one right here, that's just clipping 271 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: a guy out front. Nice, but that's a great I 272 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: mean that's a great swing left on left. People always say, oh, 273 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 2: you got to stay back. I sometimes you got to 274 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 2: get it out front and just get the head through. 275 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: With some batspeeding, especially on a breaking ball, then you 276 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 2: can just shoo, it'll go. But listen, give all the all. 277 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: First of all, Tanner Biby, unbelievable job because your pitch 278 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 2: count was through the roof. And he kept like he had. 279 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: It was like he was in trouble, trouble, trouble, every 280 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: and he's like, oh, here we go. Detroit's gonna break through. 281 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 2: They never did, right, And then the rest of the 282 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: bullpen Gaddis Sebrowski, Herron Junus, Kate Smith got a little 283 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: wonky there in the last inning, got out of it. 284 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 2: But he do how many pitches he through thirty. 285 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. He's thirty one, thirty one, two days 286 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: in a row, thirty one to days. 287 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 2: He available tomorrow. Like to me, the Detroit bullpen is 288 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: set up much better for tomorrow. I'm assuming Flaarity's starting. 289 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 2: I think I said it. I think it's Chaconion against Flarerity, 290 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: Yeah against Flaridy. Yeah. So I mean, how many will they? 291 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: How big of a leish will a J. Hinch have 292 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: on for Flarity? Or he starts one time? 293 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: Three? I mean Mais went three plus what. 294 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 2: He did today? Yeah, listen to the Guardians just figured 295 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: it's but the Guardians just figured out somehow, someway. 296 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: O, their offense is in a different place than Detroit 297 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: right now. I mean, the Guardians certainly don't have a 298 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: scary offense, but the power showed up for them at 299 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: the right time, and Detroit is just a strikeout mess. 300 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 2: How about they pinch it for Riley Green today, who 301 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: was their best hitter pretty much all year by far, 302 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: and they pinched it for him in the seventh? Was 303 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: it first and third? 304 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: I guess with the lefty Haaron comes in, Jami Jones 305 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: ops against left handed pitching, and hair got screwed on 306 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: one call. But still they just chucked curves at him 307 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: and got him. 308 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 2: I don't care what his OPS is against lefties. Like 309 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: Riley Green's your best player in your future, Like then 310 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: your best player for years. All Star multiple times. 311 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: I almost felt like A J. Hinch was sending a 312 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: message to him to the team, like, I'll sub anyone 313 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: out if you guys can't figure out a better. 314 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: Approach from the whole everybody. 315 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: Isn't it weird how the whole approach from the team 316 00:14:55,680 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: seems similar Cody Stavenhagen, who's Tiger terri right, guy though, right, 317 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: that's for them, that's normal, that's good. But Cody posted 318 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: how many pitches were middle quadrant from Cleveland? And I 319 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: get it, it's good stuff. It's not like you can 320 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: hit it. But he was saying, I'm seeing hit able 321 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: pitches and then he just feels like they're completely caught 322 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: in between with their collective approach. A lot of whiffs, 323 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: a lot of taking strikes. This was at one point 324 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: early in the game against Tanner Biby. If I showed 325 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: you this, you would go, oh, they got to some pitches. 326 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: I mean, look, how many pitches are middle middle here? 327 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: These are big league hitters. Do you think that collectively 328 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: they've lost confidence? 329 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 2: All right? So there's a couple of things. One, what 330 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 2: were the counts? What were the counts? So you can't 331 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: just look at a chart without there has to be 332 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 2: more to it. There has to be maybe some of 333 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: those middle middles were oh oh breaking balls that Tanner 334 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 2: Biby just flipped in there. 335 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: Even if there's some like that chart had a ton 336 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: of middle middle on it. 337 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you just don't know when it was. Maybe 338 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 2: he had just own five balls in a row that 339 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. But also you know they 340 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: hit on it, and they hit on it like so 341 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: many times in the shadows like I got we got 342 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: it the shadows, but they I mean they must have 343 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: said it a hundred times in the game, right, the shadowship. 344 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: But both teams have the shadows. So there's shadows in Chicago. 345 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: Yes, we had shadows in Chicago, And that's brought up 346 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: it is a factor you don't get games during this 347 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: time period. 348 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 2: Yeah in Chicago you do. 349 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, in Chicago you do. That's true too, tiny every 350 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: one actually. 351 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: Does a lot of new in the one o'clock games, 352 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 2: So I wouldn't. 353 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: Say that right. 354 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 2: But again, like you can show all the charts you want, 355 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: you got to give me context. What was now if 356 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 2: you put what the counts were like, if it was like, like, 357 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: let's I think if we can we show that again. 358 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 2: There was a there was like curveball right, and slider 359 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: and change ups, and. 360 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: I just want to emphasize this was like because like, 361 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: let's say, okay. 362 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: There's a change there's a curve ball. There's a couple 363 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 2: of curve balls that are kind of middle middle one. Oh, 364 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: maybe he dropped a curve ball, and guys aren't going 365 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: to swing at that right because they don't want to 366 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: hit that. Now, there some four seamers, but a lot 367 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 2: of them are at the top of the top ish 368 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: part of the zone. The change ups, okay, but again, 369 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 2: what was the count? Maybe it was two? 370 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: Oh? 371 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 2: And if you dropped a change up in too oh, 372 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 2: like things you don't want to swing at. So I 373 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: can't really sit here and go, oh, yeah this is Cody, 374 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 2: we love you, but you got to give me some 375 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 2: context here, brother. You can't just. 376 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 1: And ben Rice just went deep classic. But that was 377 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: through two innings. So yeah, there were a lot more 378 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: pitches obviously throwing the rest of the game where the 379 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: Tigers had opportunities. 380 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 2: Yes, they base fifteen, they left fifteen on base. 381 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: Fifteen left on base nine in a game. Yes, I 382 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: think it was some type of franchise postseason to have been. Yeah, okay, 383 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: so we'll see which team has an edge in Game three. 384 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: For me, I just think the Guardians are a better 385 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: team right now than the Schooble list Tigers. Schooble game 386 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: is different a non schooble game. I think the Guardians 387 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: I think I were Again. 388 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: Is the bullpen for Cleveland is you're going to see 389 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: some of these guys for the third time, third time 390 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 2: three days? Yeah, I think Tony, if you want the time, 391 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 2: if you want the Guardians to win, to step up 392 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 2: big time. 393 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, give them some innings. Yes, yeah, But it's again, 394 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: it's an elimination game. You're gonna go all out. You're 395 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: gonna worry about the next round, to the next round. 396 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: Here's what I'm looking for. Can we get four game 397 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 2: threes tomorrow? 398 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: We might. MLB would be pumped everybody. 399 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 2: Baseball fans should be pumped about that. 400 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: But the wild Card round is. But in terms of 401 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: the history of the last few years we talked about it, 402 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: we haven't had many game threes. And some people were like, oh, well, 403 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: you said, like, oh, you feel the heat in Game two, 404 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I mean, it still was kind 405 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: of crazy that we had twelve right, twelve in the 406 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: three years and only two produced a game three. That's 407 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: a low rank exactly Sorolreaty way ahead of the game. 408 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. And we'll figure out 409 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 1: what the times are as we're doing this show live 410 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: right now. We don't know the times yet, so that'll 411 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,239 Speaker 1: factor in depending on how the two later games go. 412 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: But the Guardians take down the Tigers, and now we 413 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: have a Game three in Cleveland. Very cool to decide 414 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: those two teams out of the al Central and who's 415 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: going to make it to the Alds. So thanks for watching. 416 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: Everyone really appreciate it. Hope you enjoyed it. 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Here it is. 434 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: I'll take it easy one you guys. 435 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 2: Whatever. Hey, Mike, you might want to back up. Nah, bro, 436 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 2: I'm good right here. Yeah, you got no chance of 437 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 2: getting it out of the infield anyway. Last time you 438 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 2: gave me something to hit and I took your d 439 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: Come on in here. What was that. 440 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: That's not fair. 441 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: I was even ready save it, Junior. That's terrible. Hey, 442 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 2: mad dog, give me something to hit.