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Speaker 8: It is Tuesday, October tenth, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen,
Speaker 8: Episode number forty nine. Welcome to the latest edition of
Speaker 8: The Break. We are live from the SWBC Mortgage Studios
Speaker 8: at the Star and today we've got a lot of
Speaker 8: different topics we want to hit. We still have to
Speaker 8: finish our post mortem on Cowboys versus Diners. We're going
Speaker 8: to go through and talk about some individual players and
Speaker 8: how they perform during this game, both on the offensive
Speaker 8: side of the ball as well as the defensive side
Speaker 8: of the ball.
Speaker 5: Got the whole show yesterday and didn't even mention.
Speaker 8: Dak Prescott, so we've got to spend a little time
Speaker 8: on him today and talk about his performance versus the
Speaker 8: Niners before we get to that, though, there were three
Speaker 8: injuries coming out of that game.
Speaker 5: That I don't know, it's sounding like right now.
Speaker 8: There's some pretty significant injuries here, and so I want
Speaker 8: to go through those injuries, talk about maybe what we
Speaker 8: know at this point, and then also talk about how
Speaker 8: the Cowboys move forward without some of these players. Let's
Speaker 8: start first Ladon Vandersh. What are we hearing about his injury?
Speaker 5: It's a knick injury.
Speaker 6: The Cowboys are still, you know, trying to decide what
Speaker 6: they're going to do with Lane vandor Risch. But there
Speaker 6: is a possibility that he lands on injured reserve along
Speaker 6: with c J. Goodwhen we'll get to him in a second.
Speaker 6: But the report, there are reports out there that it
Speaker 6: could be a four to six week injury. So that means,
Speaker 6: you know, if you sit late for late, you sit
Speaker 6: them on injury reserve. You got to sit him for
Speaker 6: at least four weeks. But considering the type of injury,
Speaker 6: his injury history when it comes to his neck, obviously
Speaker 6: it was a massive concern because then you have to
Speaker 6: wonder if it was career threatening. So if the worst
Speaker 6: case it turns out to be four to six weeks,
Speaker 6: you know, everyone will take that all day long. But
Speaker 6: we're still waiting to hear what the organization does with him,
Speaker 6: but strong likelihood he goes to IR same for CJ.
Speaker 6: Good when torn pictorial muscle is what I'm told, Unlike
Speaker 6: Lton vander Esh this could be and is likely season ending.
Speaker 9: For c J.
Speaker 6: Goodwin, massive massive loss for the special teams unit. In
Speaker 6: Bonhem's fossil there Cavante Turpin, he wrote his ankle was
Speaker 6: a high ankle sprain as described to me. But it
Speaker 6: sounds as if he has a chance to practice based
Speaker 6: on what Mike McCarthy said on yesterday. Now how much
Speaker 6: of that practice he'll get or not get. We'll see.
Speaker 6: They do have an extra day of rest because they
Speaker 6: have Monday night football next week, so no practice on Wednesday,
Speaker 6: resumes on Thursday. Let's see how Cavante Turpin looks. And
Speaker 6: I mean, you hate to see himselfer that injury after
Speaker 6: he makes the big play to kind of show you
Speaker 6: what he can be in the offense. Jordan Lewis he
Speaker 6: went down with a foot injury. It was the same
Speaker 6: foot and that created a lot of concern as well.
Speaker 6: But I spoke with Jordan in the locker room after
Speaker 6: the game. He said he was fine after everything got
Speaker 6: checked out X rays were negative. MRI I came back
Speaker 6: showing no structural damage. So it's sore, but Jordan Lewis
Speaker 6: says that he can run, he can still do everything,
Speaker 6: so he should be good to go for Monday night.
Speaker 6: Let's keeping out on him for practice as well. Am
Speaker 6: I missing anyone because there was a long list of injury?
Speaker 3: Did Donovan Wilson have something wrong with Donovan?
Speaker 6: Donovan Wilson He exited the game, but he's fine. He's fine.
Speaker 6: Talk to Donald, He's fine. No concerns from anyone in
Speaker 6: the organization on Donovan Wilson either. I'm just making sure
Speaker 6: because it was like a list. Tyler Beyadish Mike said
Speaker 6: yesterday that Beyadish should get some practice this week. Doesn't
Speaker 6: sound like the organization has a lot of concern there,
Speaker 6: but definitely something to watch considering he's missed a game
Speaker 6: here recently with that ankle injury. So yeah, there you go.
Speaker 6: The big ones will be lv E and good when good,
Speaker 6: when likely done for the season, LVE likely IR candidate,
Speaker 6: but good news is, as we have this conversation, sounds
Speaker 6: like he's a IR. I almost say it designated to return,
Speaker 6: but you don't have to designate anymore, but that he
Speaker 6: should return in the next month or so.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the injuries are starting to pile up. And the
Speaker 8: one that I think is most concerning is Leydon Vander
Speaker 8: sch primarily because you look at the depth of the
Speaker 8: linebacker position, there really isn't a lot of depth. And
Speaker 8: whatever you think of Layton's play this season, and whatever
Speaker 8: his play was against the forty nine ers, he still
Speaker 8: is the best linebacker that.
Speaker 10: They have, and he had his moments against the forty
Speaker 10: nine ers, he had.
Speaker 6: He's played.
Speaker 8: So the point is like you're losing a major piece
Speaker 8: in the middle of your defense. My question is how
Speaker 8: do you think Dallas needs to and how do you
Speaker 8: think they will respond to that?
Speaker 5: From a standpoint of the personnel.
Speaker 2: They have the depth at edge to put Michael Parsons
Speaker 2: back at linebacker is what they'll do, and they'll have
Speaker 2: to figure things out between Armstrong, Fowler, Sam Williams, all
Speaker 2: those guys.
Speaker 3: Goldston they're gonna have.
Speaker 2: They've they've got enough edges to be able to move
Speaker 2: Micah back. You know, we'll see what the you know,
Speaker 2: we'll see with what they do potentially, you know, off
Speaker 2: their uh, you know, off the practice squad. You know
Speaker 2: that's a possible. Michael Jones was a guy that they
Speaker 2: signed recently. I was kind of hearing, you know, he's
Speaker 2: kind of a physical player. Uh, probably a better zone
Speaker 2: player than man player. If you talk about coverage, Uh,
Speaker 2: could they go out and get you know, could they
Speaker 2: go out and sign somebody off the street. I always
Speaker 2: reach out and on radio, I call it my gang
Speaker 2: of seven, which are my general manager friends, directors of
Speaker 2: player personnel. Ask about training for guys. We won't get
Speaker 2: into those because those guys are already kind of on
Speaker 2: contracts with teams, so I'll avoid that. But names I
Speaker 2: was getting was like Anthony Hitchins, Was it possibly a
Speaker 2: name that my guy's like? Rai Rashid Evans, Damien Wilson.
Speaker 3: It was here. Jermaine Carter was another name.
Speaker 2: And if you wanted, well, I don't we talk about
Speaker 2: practice squad poach guys? Okay, Well then there's just one
Speaker 2: name on that. So what there are some options as
Speaker 2: far as trading. Again, you probably have to avoid that
Speaker 2: right now for the position that we're in here on
Speaker 2: this show. But those were the names that Gang of
Speaker 2: seven was telling me, Hey, these are guys that are
Speaker 2: on the street. They might be able to add a
Speaker 2: little depth to what you're trying to do. But I
Speaker 2: think the big move would be just to move Michael
Speaker 2: Parsons back to off ball linebacker him Clark, and then
Speaker 2: they'll navigate what's going on at edge. Maybe they put
Speaker 2: Micah down on some rush situations, but I think he's
Speaker 2: going to play more linebacker.
Speaker 6: Those are some some interesting free agency names, especially the
Speaker 6: two most familiar, Damian Wilson and Anthony Hitchins. Obviously they
Speaker 6: have familiarity here, albeit with the you know, in the
Speaker 6: Mary Nether regime, not in the Dan Quinn regime. So
Speaker 6: I like those as possibilities. But it goes to what
Speaker 6: Brian was saying, and I asked Dan Quinn about it
Speaker 6: specifically yesterday, and he basically intimated largely that it is
Speaker 6: going to be Michael Parsons and that versatility returning. You're
Speaker 6: going to see Michael Parsons drop back to off ball linebacker,
Speaker 6: not to say he's not going to get in, you know,
Speaker 6: to the backfield, opposing backfield. He's going to be on
Speaker 6: blitz packages. He's going to be sent time and again.
Speaker 6: But you just you don't have the luxury of dropping
Speaker 6: him down to full time d without LV.
Speaker 8: You just don't take me back to a pre draft
Speaker 8: before they drafted Michael Parsons and we all thought Michael
Speaker 8: Parsons was coming into the league to be an off
Speaker 8: ball linebacker. What was your assessment of him as a
Speaker 8: as a linebacker, not as a pass rusher, but as
Speaker 8: a linebacker's ability to cover, his ability to.
Speaker 5: Rally to the ball. What was your what were your
Speaker 5: impressions there?
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Patrick, If you got thoughts, I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna pull up my draft notes. No, no, I've
Speaker 2: got to pull up my draft notes and this thing
Speaker 2: takes forever when it comes to drafting, because I wanted.
Speaker 3: To go back and read to you exactly what.
Speaker 5: I had while you're looking it up.
Speaker 8: I'll throw another question at you in the same vein
Speaker 8: though we saw what a great linebacker can mean to
Speaker 8: a defense with Fred Warner and what he was able
Speaker 8: to do in that game and.
Speaker 5: How many impact plays he was able to have.
Speaker 8: Do you think that Micah has that level of athleticism
Speaker 8: to be able to provide that.
Speaker 5: For this defense?
Speaker 6: Athleticism, yes, the refinement not right now. Fred Warner not
Speaker 6: only has crazy athleticism. He also has the refinement of
Speaker 6: having played x amount of reps in the NFL at
Speaker 6: a superbly high level to be able to cover as well.
Speaker 6: And that's where going back to off ball linebacker at
Speaker 6: Penn State, that's something that I had a question about
Speaker 6: when it came to Michael. He has the athleticism, and
Speaker 6: he can turn and he can react and get back
Speaker 6: and coverage and kind of drop that gear, but he's
Speaker 6: not nearly as good as covering as he is as
Speaker 6: pointing forward and saying, see guy hit guy, seaball, get ball.
Speaker 6: Fred Warner is unique in the fact that he can
Speaker 6: do both. You look at the fact that he had
Speaker 6: on Dak Prescott. He blows up the play which was
Speaker 6: coverage initially for him, but then that forced Dak Prescott out.
Speaker 6: He immediately see guy hit guy. So Fred Warner is
Speaker 6: only comparable to a guy like Bobby Wagner, for example,
Speaker 6: Michael Parsons as the off ball linebacker. I think you're
Speaker 6: going to lose something there in the coverage aspect, But
Speaker 6: I'm interested to see where he is now in run
Speaker 6: defense Micah versus where he was as a run defender
Speaker 6: as an off ball linebacker. Penn State because that was
Speaker 6: something that you wanted to see him improve upon. But
Speaker 6: he hasn't had that many reps as off ball linebacker
Speaker 6: in the NFL with the Cowboys to be able to
Speaker 6: say we know he's improved upon that. So playing the
Speaker 6: run on the edge is different, as Brian will say,
Speaker 6: is different from playing it as off ball. Two different worlds.
Speaker 6: Let's see what it looks like once he comes off
Speaker 6: of that ball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which you got to remember, man, when you get
Speaker 2: in this one note thing, it takes forever. I've got
Speaker 2: five I'm saying, you also have a lot of five
Speaker 2: years of reports in my system now. And this is
Speaker 2: what and we got to remember about Michael when he
Speaker 2: came out. He didn't play the twenty twenty season because
Speaker 2: of COVID. He sat that out. And if you don't
Speaker 2: mind me reading from me, I appreciate it. Uh, you
Speaker 2: know I said. You can't draw him up any better
Speaker 2: than when it comes to a linebacker physically well put together,
Speaker 2: stout build appears big on tape, place with physical toughness, desire,
Speaker 2: shows a burst with range in order to run down
Speaker 2: the ball, can get forward sideways in a hurry. Best
Speaker 2: when you can attack the line scrimmage. When he comes downhill,
Speaker 2: he'll make some impressive plays. Body control can can come
Speaker 2: and go a little bit. There's snaps when you see
Speaker 2: him jump around blocks and it takes him out of
Speaker 2: a tackle. He'll use his hands his strength to get
Speaker 2: rid of blockers, but needs to be more consistent with him.
Speaker 2: He can dominate, but it doesn't always do it. When
Speaker 2: he puts himself in position, he could really finish tackles.
Speaker 2: I thought he was better blitzer than a cover man,
Speaker 2: but it's because he just drops in zones and reacts
Speaker 2: when he attacks the pocket. He could he could be
Speaker 2: a load to handle, can see the burst to get there,
Speaker 2: very good communication skills, is always directing his teammates. Has
Speaker 2: ability to make every single tackle, but there's times where
Speaker 2: he doesn't always do that. So those were the notes
Speaker 2: I had. I felt like more better a run player
Speaker 2: than the coverage. And then you asked the question about
Speaker 2: you know, how does that?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: How does you know Fred Werner? The one if I
Speaker 2: read you Fred Werner's notes when he came out of BYU,
Speaker 2: the number one.
Speaker 3: Thing I remember about him was how well he covered.
Speaker 2: It was much better coverage than it was because you're
Speaker 2: watching you're watching these BYU tape and he was such
Speaker 2: an athlete. I just remember him always being around the ball,
Speaker 2: but always running and then playing in coverage and having
Speaker 2: that awareness there where if guys came inside, he was there,
Speaker 2: or if he had to run with a back, he
Speaker 2: was there. You know, his coverage skills were far more.
Speaker 2: But I think MICA's might have been a little bit
Speaker 2: about more about what they're asking him to do at
Speaker 2: Penn State just dropped to his own kind of settle
Speaker 2: and then react, where where BYU was different where they
Speaker 2: asked their guys to actually play it coverage.
Speaker 8: And I want to say it might have been year
Speaker 8: one from Micah when we saw him. There was a
Speaker 8: play in a particular game. We saw him carry a
Speaker 8: receiver downfield, deep downfield, and he made a play on
Speaker 8: the ball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, well there was a wheel.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, And it was impressive to me that he
Speaker 5: was able to do that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, there was a wheel route one time somebody
Speaker 2: had done a goal line and it might have been
Speaker 2: Philadelphia in the game I think it was played here
Speaker 2: at at and T where they tried to run the
Speaker 2: wheel on him and he carried the guy and just.
Speaker 3: Kind of just pushed him out of bounds.
Speaker 2: You know, kind of was in a position to defend
Speaker 2: the ball, but but his just his presence kept the
Speaker 2: receiver wide.
Speaker 3: And I think that's you and he ran with him.
Speaker 6: Now go to the athleticism. I believe that he has
Speaker 6: the athleticism to have that Fred Warner cump. But when
Speaker 6: you look at what Fred Warner does as far as
Speaker 6: pure coverage is concerned, I don't think that's a compared no.
Speaker 8: And I'm not I'm not expecting him immediately to jump
Speaker 8: in and be Fred Warner or Marcus Bang or anybody else.
Speaker 5: That's not what I'm expecting. What I'm expecting.
Speaker 8: What I'm expecting is if you got a guy that
Speaker 8: you drafted in the first round, I'm expecting him to
Speaker 8: be good enough to where you don't lose anything by
Speaker 8: Layton Vandersh being out. That's it was the delta between
Speaker 8: him and Layton Vandersh is what I'm looking You.
Speaker 10: Got to remember that's what you drafted for. You drafted
Speaker 10: him to be a linebacker. This whole past rushing thing
Speaker 10: came about later something that was a very nice surprise injury.
Speaker 10: I said that for the yeah yeah, yeah, and then
Speaker 10: gets here and it puts him there to replace some
Speaker 10: of that or help help, and then you see the
Speaker 10: magic happened. But now I mean you don't have You're
Speaker 10: starting to lose that luxury of having him as that
Speaker 10: guy that can be just like wherever he wants to
Speaker 10: and let him be. Micah Parsons, Now you actually need
Speaker 10: the help. And what didn't dar Own Bland? Did he
Speaker 10: get hurt too?
Speaker 3: Cramps?
Speaker 10: He yeah, but that's the other day. No, no, no,
Speaker 10: I remember something happening, but just another thing to look at.
Speaker 10: I mean, he's fine, but still keeping in mind what's
Speaker 10: happening in the in the secondary and the fact that
Speaker 10: you lost Trevon Diggs is not there and that is
Speaker 10: starting to get noticed. I mean, Darren Bland has done
Speaker 10: a really nice job, but you still see that a
Speaker 10: guy like dis is being missed there. So again, now
Speaker 10: you gotta make happen with what you got.
Speaker 6: What's really interested about it is when you look at
Speaker 6: this year's training camp, and it was something that I
Speaker 6: kind of pointed at and it continued to be a
Speaker 6: thing and now it's definitely a thing. When you look
Speaker 6: at Layton vander Rish's snaps as far as where he
Speaker 6: lines up on any given moment. In training camp, we
Speaker 6: saw a lot of edgework for Layton vander USh. Okay, well,
Speaker 6: now Layton Vanderrish goes off the field with injury for
Speaker 6: a few weeks. Michael Parsons dropped back drops back in
Speaker 6: the lv E RO. That's proof positive for me that
Speaker 6: you know there's a package already waiting right there for
Speaker 6: Dan Quinn to plot Michael Parsons in and say, Hey,
Speaker 6: I know I'm going to ask you to play off
Speaker 6: ball linebacker, but I guarantee you you're gonna get your
Speaker 6: edge rushes in sop.
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Speaker 8: All right, let's jump back in. I want to start
Speaker 8: with the offense. One thing that became very apparent to
Speaker 8: me early in that game was that the Cowboys offense
Speaker 8: I think by design, went into this game with the
Speaker 8: expectation they were going downfield. They were going to try
Speaker 8: to challenge this offense, I mean this defense downfield. Check
Speaker 8: out one of these numbers I found. Dak averaged eleven
Speaker 8: point five air yards per attempt in this game. It
Speaker 8: was double double what he's averaged in the first four
Speaker 8: games at around five point nine, which was the second
Speaker 8: lowest in the NFL.
Speaker 5: But the production just wasn't there.
Speaker 8: On twenty plus yard passes, he was only one of
Speaker 8: three with one touchdown and one interception. Ten to twenty
Speaker 8: yard passes, he was only one of five with one interception.
Speaker 8: Do you think this was the right strategy? Do you
Speaker 8: think that maybe how they did it may have been
Speaker 8: the problem? What do you think of their their decision
Speaker 8: to go downfield more?
Speaker 2: I did you were there yesterday for Brian Schottenheimer R.
Speaker 2: What did he say about that man coverage? They they
Speaker 2: didn't expect to get. They didn't expect to get as
Speaker 2: much man coverage.
Speaker 6: He did say they did. They the forty nine ers
Speaker 6: were focused on a lot of press man. Yeah, that
Speaker 6: was something that they had to kind of combat through.
Speaker 15: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so he did mention that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: See, that's where I think that to me, the plan
Speaker 2: of going downfield, because the metrics told.
Speaker 3: You and we went through it last week.
Speaker 2: Through the next gen stuff was passes that were zero
Speaker 2: to ten, they're like seventeen of twenty four. Beyond that,
Speaker 2: they were still having success more on Lenor than on
Speaker 2: ward on the other side. So you know, but they
Speaker 2: got they got a lot of man coverage in that game.
Speaker 2: And the things that I saw were that when you
Speaker 2: look through all the plays, Yeah, there were some plays
Speaker 2: where guys were open, but it wasn't to the point
Speaker 2: where I thought, I mean running to get zone.
Speaker 3: I felt like that the Cowboys were like, Okay, they're
Speaker 3: just going to eat them up. But when they but
Speaker 3: the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Struggled with that that when they got on the line
Speaker 2: of scrimmage to have to get off those and I
Speaker 2: think it affected the way that Dak through the football,
Speaker 2: you know, And we were talking about if they could protect,
Speaker 2: they could make some plays. But we were thinking they
Speaker 2: were gonna probably play more zone coverage. They said, no,
Speaker 2: we're gonna play man. And it goes back to a
Speaker 2: little bit of what Arizona did against you you know,
Speaker 2: and how they played with more man coverage than than zones.
Speaker 2: So you know, it's I think that I think that
Speaker 2: caught them by surprise a little bit, that that they
Speaker 2: weren't able to win enough in those one on one
Speaker 2: on one situations off the line.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was very clearly their plan to get you know,
Speaker 6: middle deep and just deep against this forty nine or
Speaker 6: secondary that for the most part. I mean, you have
Speaker 6: Travarius Ward, he does well, and in the backfield you
Speaker 6: have to Shawn Gibson he does well as well. But
Speaker 6: Lenora was the glaring the blinking light, as the Cowboys
Speaker 6: like to say. But to Brian's point, coming into this game,
Speaker 6: the forty nine ers tend to protect their secondary by
Speaker 6: spacing them and having them give that space. And the
Speaker 6: Cowboys came in and thought, hey, okay, well we can
Speaker 6: attack this, and they could, but when they saw a
Speaker 6: press man from snap one and then continually throughout. Now
Speaker 6: the onus is on the receivers to get separation off
Speaker 6: of the jam, off of the press and the problem
Speaker 6: was that we talked about yesterday. The receivers were not
Speaker 6: able to get that, and that completely disrupted timing. And
Speaker 6: this is a timing based offense. The Cowboys have said
Speaker 6: it time and again. Dak has said it, Brian Schottenheimer said,
Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy said it. And so that means when you
Speaker 6: disrupt the timing and kudules to Kyle Shanahan, he realizes this.
Speaker 6: When you disrupt the timing, that's it. It's a wrap.
Speaker 6: So that's why while Dak Prescott was airing it out
Speaker 6: much more or trying to air it out much more,
Speaker 6: it wasn't nearly as effective because go back and look
Speaker 6: at the separation rates, I think only one receiver or
Speaker 6: maybe no receivers had more than three yards.
Speaker 3: I think cd Al something like that.
Speaker 6: So I don't think any of the receivers had more
Speaker 6: than three yards of separation. Most separation came from Jake Fergus.
Speaker 5: Oh, I should throw this out.
Speaker 8: This stat I noticed was interesting, the open percent and
Speaker 8: this is the number of times when they were targeted
Speaker 8: they had three plus yards of separation. For the Cowboys,
Speaker 8: it was only thirty four point six percent of the time.
Speaker 8: That is their lowest percentage of open receivers in this
Speaker 8: entire season. So yeah, absolutely it affected what exactly what
Speaker 8: San Francisco was doing it definitely felt effected.
Speaker 5: The Cowboys offense.
Speaker 2: Go back and look at the interceptions they had. Okay,
Speaker 2: the one and just a great example that we actually
Speaker 2: were two that I the one the ball that was
Speaker 2: thrown inside the gallop on the slant that was tipped
Speaker 2: in the air.
Speaker 3: There was no chance.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was just really a nice defensive play,
Speaker 2: you know, but there was coverage there. And then if
Speaker 2: you go back and watch the interception Bert's the linebacker
Speaker 2: had when he jumped the route underneath Cooks is getting
Speaker 2: mugged on the top of the of the route too.
Speaker 2: I mean that ball, if that ball gets through, that's
Speaker 2: probably going to be incomplete too. So, you know, the
Speaker 2: Cowboys have had some success running these slants and being
Speaker 2: effective at doing it, but in those two particular times,
Speaker 2: it really resulted in two of the interceptions were off slants,
Speaker 2: and that's kind of a bread and butter play for
Speaker 2: the Cowboys.
Speaker 10: As the game went on, how should they have adjusted
Speaker 10: or what should hit the Cowboys have done differently or
Speaker 10: Mcarthy's final play call.
Speaker 2: It you know to me and and I'm not a note,
Speaker 2: I'm not an offensive coordinator, and I and I but
Speaker 2: to me what I have done. The cowboys could get
Speaker 2: into bunch formations and scatter, you know, all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: it's like, okay, instead of playing wide and allowing the
Speaker 2: forty nine ers to pick you up one on one
Speaker 2: and then potentially either you know, shade a safety one
Speaker 2: way and try and you know, take seat, getting bunch
Speaker 2: of formations and scatter that thing.
Speaker 3: You know, if you look the touchdown they.
Speaker 2: Threw to h to Turpin trips right and they motion
Speaker 2: they motioned him in and then ran him on the
Speaker 2: on the corner that gets off the press of the nickel.
Speaker 2: The nickel had no When you move people or bunch
Speaker 2: them and scatter them, then you you're making you know,
Speaker 2: and that that helps him in their pick.
Speaker 3: Game too, you know. And some of the the.
Speaker 2: Dak Dak took a sack. They try to run a pick.
Speaker 2: They knew that forty niners. Okay, they're trying to run
Speaker 2: a really a man beater. They run Ferguson across, but
Speaker 2: they picked the wrong guy, so they you know, all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, the Nichols able to get through and
Speaker 2: now everybody's covered. And then you got Warner who avoids
Speaker 2: the pick and now he's chasing and he's gonna run
Speaker 2: you down. So to me, movement, they scored a touchdown
Speaker 2: off it.
Speaker 10: They also, I don't know if it was you or
Speaker 10: Nick that mentioned it during the game.
Speaker 3: Again, I'm not a coordinator. Yeah, I'm just telling you
Speaker 3: what they.
Speaker 10: Score on a play where they lined up ceedee lamb.
Speaker 10: He was kind of out on the outside and then
Speaker 10: he comes back and just stays like in instead of
Speaker 10: being spread out. Like you said, that was.
Speaker 8: Well, that was Nick mentioned that, and it was it
Speaker 8: was I think Nick's point is why run the ball
Speaker 8: when you have a receiver out wide that has a
Speaker 8: corner out and you bring that receipt that corner in
Speaker 8: and then it just adds another guy to the body.
Speaker 2: Missed the block, I missed the block and so and
Speaker 2: then you see him kind of clap his hands and
Speaker 2: I'm well, you know, you're asking him. And then they
Speaker 2: put Tolbert in the game to run the cracked toss,
Speaker 2: but they don't do anything else with Tolbert. They just
Speaker 2: ask him to come down and sign block. So to me,
Speaker 2: it's kind of like it's almost like the Noah back
Speaker 2: in the day. The Jason Garrett administration. When you bring
Speaker 2: Noah Brown in and all he's gonna do is block,
Speaker 2: you know, you got to show. And that's the great
Speaker 2: thing about putting Turpin in the game. You're thinking jet sweep,
Speaker 2: you're thinking some type of little running play, but then
Speaker 2: they run him through the formation and then it ends
Speaker 2: being a big play.
Speaker 8: Yes, speaking of you talking about that strategy of bunching
Speaker 8: your guys or pressing your guys, watch how San Francisco
Speaker 8: runs their offense. They do a ton of that. It's
Speaker 8: why it makes it so difficult to control them, is
Speaker 8: because they'll put all those guys in tight and then
Speaker 8: they'll scatter.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the ball is snapped and they're all.
Speaker 8: In different parts of the field and it's hard to
Speaker 8: really get hands on them within that first five yard cushion,
Speaker 8: and that allows them to get open and create the separation.
Speaker 3: What they want, what.
Speaker 2: They do with their tight formations and bunches is they'll block.
Speaker 2: Those guys are like they'll run it. So you're like thinking, Okay,
Speaker 2: they're gonna get tight and they're gonna run it here,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, no wait, they're throwing boom,
Speaker 2: they scatter, and now they're you know guys are they're
Speaker 2: they're replacing guys. I've seen them run routes where they
Speaker 2: go up and cross and then a guy falls up
Speaker 2: and then stops, and so they got a cross or
Speaker 2: with a stop, and now they give the guy the
Speaker 2: option throw it there, throw.
Speaker 3: It there, you know, and it's just it's it's a
Speaker 3: fun offense to watch.
Speaker 2: Really, it really is because of how they use their
Speaker 2: personnel in a way that you're going man, that that
Speaker 2: is really an intelligent way of doing that.
Speaker 6: And then another benefit of using motion is it it
Speaker 6: reveals more often than not zone versus man. Right when
Speaker 6: you when you move this particular person from this side
Speaker 6: of this side, if you see that player, chase that player, okay,
Speaker 6: that player is in man. And then if you do
Speaker 6: a double motion, send somebody else and that person doesn't move, okay,
Speaker 6: Well this is a mixed coverage. You can help yourself
Speaker 6: by pre snap by using more motion. I just feel
Speaker 6: like the Cowboys. I'm not saying they don't use motion,
Speaker 6: but when you compare it up against what Kyle Shanahan
Speaker 6: does and they're eighty six percent of.
Speaker 2: The time they have motion in this well, Dallas, again,
Speaker 2: according to the Great net jet Net. Next section stats
Speaker 2: is that every week Dallas has gotten less and less
Speaker 2: on the motion part of things. And you're kind of
Speaker 2: like going, okay, is that just because the way the
Speaker 2: game is going, But you could also the way the
Speaker 2: forty nine ers do it and teams do it is
Speaker 2: they'll motion guys too, and they'll move guys over to
Speaker 2: get a linebacker on, like they'll move McCaffrey out, and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it's like, wait a minute, they
Speaker 2: bump a corner out to get a linebacker on McCaffrey,
Speaker 2: and now or use check is now you know used
Speaker 2: check has got.
Speaker 3: A corner on him.
Speaker 2: But wait, they got a linebacker on a safety inside
Speaker 2: and you're like going, you know, so it's it's on
Speaker 2: the receiver inside. So it's it's really creative the way
Speaker 2: that they do things.
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Speaker 8: give a tip our cap to Steve Wilks. Steve great
Speaker 8: game plan went up against this Cowboys offense, and I
Speaker 8: think that's a big part as to why the offense
Speaker 8: was so staggering throughout the day. We're going to take
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Speaker 5: Here we go. Let's talk about Dak Prescott.
Speaker 8: He was fourteen of twenty four fifty eight percent completion rate,
Speaker 8: only one hundred and fifty three yards, passing, one touchdown,
Speaker 8: three interceptions, fifty one point six rating. How much do
Speaker 8: you attribute the struggles of the offense to DA's play in.
Speaker 3: That particular game. I think that you could.
Speaker 2: You could point the finger to a lot of different players,
Speaker 2: but you can also I say the quarterback always is
Speaker 2: going to take the lion's share of the blame. We're
Speaker 2: some oping guys, you know the past, the Scoon Maker.
Speaker 2: If you when you watch the All twenty two, especially
Speaker 2: from the end zone he's opened, We'll see if Schoomaker
Speaker 2: would have caught it, but I mean it he was opened.
Speaker 3: The ball went a little high.
Speaker 2: I thinka Dak was a little, you know, a little
Speaker 2: amped up in this game as it started. It's unforgedate
Speaker 2: the long pass they threw out a bounce to Cooks.
Speaker 2: I just felt like that when you watch him, he
Speaker 2: was having to move to his left and to try
Speaker 2: and get that ball as far as he could down
Speaker 2: the field. His momentum carried him that way, and I
Speaker 2: think it pulled the ball that way. It's physics. I
Speaker 2: know you have science.
Speaker 5: That's physics, physical physics.
Speaker 2: And I'm making an excuse for him because he had
Speaker 2: some throws that were open. But there was also I
Speaker 2: give Steve Wilkes the forty nine ers their plan, the
Speaker 2: way they covered. I gave Arizona a lot of credit
Speaker 2: for what they did in their game.
Speaker 3: You know, with the way they played defense.
Speaker 2: They didn't allow you any ability to run the football
Speaker 2: very well, and they didn't allow the receivers on the
Speaker 2: outside to win nearly enough. When these receivers are winning,
Speaker 2: you see Dak Prescott have that ability. But there was
Speaker 2: some tough, tight window throw. The interceptions were all tight
Speaker 2: window throws, just the way the balls were tipped and
Speaker 2: knocked in the air. You gotta, you know, tip the
Speaker 2: cap to those guys. But you know it's on the
Speaker 2: quarterback too, you know, when they have to make some plays,
Speaker 2: They have to make some plays. They can't let plays
Speaker 2: go by. You can't leave those plays on the field.
Speaker 2: And it happened to him a couple of different times.
Speaker 2: When Dockett plays that way where he's off, this team
Speaker 2: will generally lose.
Speaker 3: That's just the way it is.
Speaker 6: It has to play better. Definitely, not one of his
Speaker 6: best outings in many capacities. And I keep circling back
Speaker 6: in my mind as I go to this game, and
Speaker 6: I say, you know what was the early tail as
Speaker 6: far as how this game was going to go, And
Speaker 6: it was the sailed past the Schoolmaker. If you if
Speaker 6: you make that throw and assuming Schoolmaker comes down with that,
Speaker 6: that is a huge boost and early boost momentum wise,
Speaker 6: and you know, morale wise for the Cowboys offense to say, hey,
Speaker 6: we can do what we want to do against this defense.
Speaker 6: But that misses and then things just kind of slowly
Speaker 6: crumbled from there until it started to rapidly crumble from there.
Speaker 6: And so their passes and and again, I said it yesterday.
Speaker 6: The level of difficulty on that pass to Cooks one
Speaker 6: to ten, that's an eleven. But you know, if you
Speaker 6: throw it just a little bit, if you throw more
Speaker 6: vertical sooner too. Yeah, but he I think he had.
Speaker 6: I think he really had to move his body.
Speaker 3: You know, the angle. The angle threw him completely off.
Speaker 3: And it's not an excuse.
Speaker 2: Just watch the throw from the end zone and you'll
Speaker 2: see where his body position is to try and get
Speaker 2: that ball out there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're not We're not going to say that was easy,
Speaker 6: even remotely easy. Those who know No, that's why we're
Speaker 6: sitting here saying that that throw was extremely difficult. But
Speaker 6: if the ball gets out a little bit earlier, if
Speaker 6: it goes a little bit more vertical than horizontal, then
Speaker 6: Cooks has an actual shot of making that play. So
Speaker 6: things like that, and then when you look at the
Speaker 6: mobility of deck, there were opportunities where he could have
Speaker 6: taken off and pushed the envelope and kind of moved
Speaker 6: the change or at least created you know, more third
Speaker 6: and short situations if he would have just been more
Speaker 6: decisive and saying, okay, I see green, I'm taking green.
Speaker 6: But it was yet another game in which there was
Speaker 6: green to be taken, but he didn't. He kept his
Speaker 6: eyes downfield. And sometimes that's great. But in a game
Speaker 6: like this, where you can't get any kind of offensive
Speaker 6: chemistry going and kind of flow going, you have to
Speaker 6: take any positive that you can get. So the Fred
Speaker 6: Warner sack, for example, if Jack had decided to just
Speaker 6: go ahead plays, breaking down, quickly, go through progressions, nothing's there,
Speaker 6: take off and run, you probably beat Warner on that edge.
Speaker 6: There was another sack that he take. He took that game.
Speaker 6: You probably beat the guy if you just go ahead
Speaker 6: and quickly determine that this play is blown up. I'm
Speaker 6: going to take this so from the aspect of being
Speaker 6: more decisive and using his legs, which is something we
Speaker 6: want to see from Dak Prescott, and you know some
Speaker 6: of the throws that he definitely wants back that he
Speaker 6: needs to make to help a struggling offense. It's most
Speaker 6: certainly a grade that you look at and say, okay,
Speaker 6: well A to F. Where's this? This is an F
Speaker 6: for deck, This isn't F for deck, and there's no
Speaker 6: other way to put it. So can he be better?
Speaker 6: Yes he can. He's shown he can be better, and
Speaker 6: he's going to have to prove it again against Los Angeles.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's very My emotions are still very high right now,
Speaker 10: and it's super frustrating this because there are days that
Speaker 10: you're gonna have to rely on your defense, there are
Speaker 10: days you're gonna have to rely on your running game,
Speaker 10: there are days that you need to rely on your quarterback.
Speaker 10: And I'm not putting all the blame on Dak because
Speaker 10: everyone played bad in this game, but you gotta do better.
Speaker 10: We've seen games where Dak has been great. Even last year.
Speaker 10: He has won of the best game in his career.
Speaker 3: The Tampa game. The playoff game was outstanding, he was amazing.
Speaker 10: So you've seen him being capable of doing those things.
Speaker 10: And I love Dak, but at some point, you gotta
Speaker 10: be able to show up in important games like this
Speaker 10: where nothing is working, and you gotta be the guy
Speaker 10: that kind of takes that lead, because that's kind of
Speaker 10: what quarterbacks do at times when nothing is working. You
Speaker 10: got to show up and be the one to kind
Speaker 10: of say or try to save the day.
Speaker 6: Lastly, on this point, the thing that kind of frustrated
Speaker 6: me was it wasn't that nothing was working. The Cowboys
Speaker 6: actually found one or two things that were working. Jake
Speaker 6: Ferguson for example. Yes, So then when you look at
Speaker 6: it from that aspect as well, you look at that
Speaker 6: and say, okay, well, Cooks, that connection is not working.
Speaker 6: CD he's frustrated. That's not working. Gallup's not getting a separation.
Speaker 6: That's not working. What is working? Jake Ferguson, Okay, one, two, three, three, catches,
Speaker 6: three receptions, This is working. I'm going to tear this
Speaker 6: up until they take this away, and them taking this
Speaker 6: away might open up something else. But they completely got
Speaker 6: away from Jake Ferguson. And I put that on as
Speaker 6: much of the play calling as I do the quarterback
Speaker 6: because the quarterbacks on the field, he's seeing this in
Speaker 6: real time. You're seeing these guys aren't getting separations. So
Speaker 6: where's the green light is? Jake Ferguson, And you went
Speaker 6: away from that completely for the.
Speaker 10: Remainders, which is weird and odd because we've seen the
Speaker 10: tight end be the guy to be the safety blanket
Speaker 10: to Dak. So that's so strange that he happened.
Speaker 6: Now, well, he can be better, he will be better,
Speaker 6: and the connection between he and Jake Ferguson. It's there,
Speaker 6: it's growing. We've seen it over the past several weeks.
Speaker 6: But to walk to see that just get a hard
Speaker 6: stop in the game where you need it something to
Speaker 6: start going right, that's very disheartening. And that's one of
Speaker 6: the many reasons, one of the many reasons the Cowboys
Speaker 6: got thumped.
Speaker 8: Are you seeing a difference this year between Dak Prescott's
Speaker 8: play and what you saw from him last year to
Speaker 8: where you can attribute some of it to the offensive
Speaker 8: play calling in the scheme?
Speaker 2: I think that to me, there's a side that you know,
Speaker 2: I'm okay with the interceptions if I can throw the
Speaker 2: ball eight yards a shot, you know, if I'm I'm
Speaker 2: okay with Dak you know, the turnovers and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: I guess you know a lot of people were complaining
Speaker 2: about it, but I honestly don't recognize this guy playing
Speaker 2: the dank and dunk. It's third and five and you
Speaker 2: throw the ball for three yards, you know, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't get that.
Speaker 2: I know there's guys that were covered, and you know
Speaker 2: there are things going on there, but I just don't
Speaker 2: feel like this offense suits Dak that way. And I
Speaker 2: know that Jerry Jones came on one oh five three
Speaker 2: the Fan this morning and talk about no changes in
Speaker 2: this and that he's confident all and that's good.
Speaker 3: That's his job to be confident. But I just feel like,
Speaker 3: though the way.
Speaker 2: That Dak plays to me, I think playing open, loose, fast,
Speaker 2: the way he does, I think that's a better suited
Speaker 2: game for him. You know, you're trying to kind of
Speaker 2: throw it, be controlled, limit the turnovers and stuff. Hell, okay,
Speaker 2: you threw two slants. Both of them were intercepted. You know.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're gonna that's what you're gonna do,
Speaker 2: well that you're still throwing interceptions.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I just don't know if just Nickel and Diamond people
Speaker 2: with Dak Prescott's the way to play football.
Speaker 6: I say this morning with r J, Sewan and Bobby
Speaker 6: is that I think I feel like Dak is being
Speaker 6: shrunk at the moment as far as risk mitigation. And
Speaker 6: I'm right there with Brian and it's like, yeah, you're
Speaker 6: trying to eliminate or minimize the number of interceptions, but
Speaker 6: at the risk of losing the Dak Prescott that we
Speaker 6: know can throw forty nine hundred yards and thirty seven touchdowns,
Speaker 6: and honestly, I'm not saying, you know, I want him
Speaker 6: to throw it up and just like he did against Cooks,
Speaker 6: I don't want to see that down down the midday.
Speaker 6: Don't do that. Don't do that. That's not playing football,
Speaker 6: that's just heaving it up there. And then you know,
Speaker 6: seeing what happened for no, which is why he kind
Speaker 6: of smirked coming.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 6: But I feel like Dak Prescott needs to be allowed
Speaker 6: more leeway to say, you know what, let's open up
Speaker 6: deep mintle of the field, let's take some of these shots,
Speaker 6: because I would rather you know, thirty touchdowns to thirteen interceptions,
Speaker 6: fourteen interceptions, as long as the Cowboys continue to win
Speaker 6: and it's not costing them games versus oh, he only
Speaker 6: finished with eight interceptions this season. Then you look at
Speaker 6: you know, the Cowboys record and it's nine to eight,
Speaker 6: and then you look at the fact that Dak Prescott
Speaker 6: only has you know, twenty one touchdowns, like, what did
Speaker 6: you really gain from that risk mitigation? So I think
Speaker 6: that the scale has flown too far to the left
Speaker 6: and it needs to come back to dead suns.
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Speaker 6: really quickly after a game like what we saw in
Speaker 6: Santa Clair, we're not going to dig too deep into
Speaker 6: the stats because it's a glaring The magic number is
Speaker 6: sixty seven. This is what we're going on, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 6: Sixty seven. That's thirty five and thirty two. The Cowboys
Speaker 6: defeated Bill Belichick by thirty five points. The following week,
Speaker 6: they lost to the forty nine Ers by thirty two points.
Speaker 6: That is the worst swinging point differential from a victory
Speaker 6: to a loss in franchise history. This is a team
Speaker 6: that has existed in its current form since nineteen sixty
Speaker 6: and what we just witnessed in a two week spread
Speaker 6: has never happened before. We want to talk about resiliency.
Speaker 6: Let's see it. That was the worst loss ever to
Speaker 6: the forty nine Ers, twelfth worst loss in the history
Speaker 6: of the Cowboys, only two point shy of being top
Speaker 6: ten worst losses in Cowboys history. They're going to have
Speaker 6: to really show what resiliency looks like. It's a team
Speaker 6: that hasn't lost back to back game since November of
Speaker 6: twenty twenty one. They're really up against it now because
Speaker 6: they're all were going against the Los Angeles Chargers team
Speaker 6: whose offense is not afraid to air it out, not
Speaker 6: worried about risk mitigation, and know by the way their
Speaker 6: offensive coordinator has a point to prove. And you're also
Speaker 6: going to have to do this without Lve on defense.
Speaker 6: You're gonna have to do this without c. J. Goodwhen
Speaker 6: helping you on special teams. Talk about adversity, it has arrived,
Speaker 6: and it has arrived in space sixty seven points. That's
Speaker 6: the swing differential from last week to the week prior
Speaker 6: to this past week. So let's see what it looks
Speaker 6: like in week six.
Speaker 8: We talked about this following the Arizona game. Since twenty
Speaker 8: twenty one, though the Cowboys have been eleven and one
Speaker 8: in games following a loss, they have been really good
Speaker 8: in those games following a loss. We will see if
Speaker 8: that trend happens this week.
Speaker 2: Derek, real quick, Yeah, remember we went to that game
Speaker 2: we played in the Saints in New Orleans where it
Speaker 2: was so bad. That game reminded me of that Saints
Speaker 2: game and.
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, that was one of those that it
Speaker 5: was just like.
Speaker 3: Nothing's working today. Everything bad that could happen happen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that dog on song, it was a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they crunked this up pretty y.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was but the the lab was good today.
Speaker 2: You got to have these thoughts about it. And they've
Speaker 2: had some bounce back. You know that that record is
Speaker 2: that's that's for real. That bounce back is for real.
Speaker 2: It ain't something we just made up.
Speaker 3: It's for real.
Speaker 8: Tomorrow we will start the process of turning the page.
Speaker 8: We will get into this next game. Brian will give
Speaker 8: us a little lead in on Cowboys offense versus the
Speaker 8: Chargers defense.
Speaker 5: I hope I'm right this week and we'll get that
Speaker 5: roll in till then. For Patrick Walker.
Speaker 8: Brian brought us Ambergarciim Derek Eilton. This has been The
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