1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Today, I have the 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: founder of X Strategies with me. His name is Alex 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Bruce of Witz. You probably know him as the gen 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: Z whisperer from the Donald Trump campaign because he was 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: the one with the podcast strategy talking to Baron Trump 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: and all of these fancy things that we learned about 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: as we were going along in the Trump campaign and saying, man, 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: this campaign feels a lot different than any campaign we've 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: seen ever before, and that's why we wanted to bring 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: Alex on today to say what was it like, what happened, 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: what's the behind the scenes, what's Baron Trump like? 12 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: Tell us everything well, Tutor. 13 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me on and congratulations 14 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 3: and all your success with the show. And we had 15 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 3: a lot of fun on the campaign, as you mentioned, 16 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 3: and I'm glad that you gave Baron Trump a shout 17 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 3: out because he absolutely played a key role in this 18 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 3: process and his father has tremendous trust in him and 19 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 3: faith in him, and Baron gave sound advice and it 20 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 3: was a joy to work with him in the whole 21 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 3: family and the whole team throughout this process. It was 22 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 3: really a team effort and we obviously had great success 23 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 3: on No. Number fifth. 24 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: You know, I think that people look at the Trump 25 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: family and they try to figure it out. He seems 26 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 1: incredibly close to his children, but then there are people 27 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: who want to demonize him and make him seem like 28 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: he's this completely different person. I don't think we really 29 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: understood Baron at all, because when people are teenagers or younger, 30 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: and he was pretty little when they went into the 31 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: White House the first time, it's kind of a hands 32 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: off situation, like you don't touch the kids, you don't 33 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: mess with the kids. If you're a decent person, you 34 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: don't talk about the kids. But then he took this 35 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: kind of starring role once we got to I would say, 36 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: maybe to the RNC convention. And then we started seeing 37 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: him more, and we started hearing rumblings of Baron as 38 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: taking charge of putting his dad on some podcasts. 39 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: And it was like, wow, this is very. 40 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: Interesting to see someone who really was just graduating high 41 00:01:55,400 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: school and has this connection to his age. That was 42 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: the age group that we were looking for, was the 43 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: kids that were eighteen to what twenty nine, and how 44 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: do you connect to them? What was it like when 45 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: you heard Okay, Baron wants to make some suggestions, and 46 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: his father was like, yeah, heck yeah, I take him seriously. 47 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 3: Well, no, I think you're spot on that. You know, 48 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 3: Baron was very young when his father first ran in 49 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 3: twenty sixteen, and he kind of grew up through this 50 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: process and this go around, he was eighteen years old, 51 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 3: and he's a very intelligent eighteen year old. He's probably 52 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 3: smarter than any other eighteen year old in the country, 53 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 3: in the world, and he's obviously experienced a heck of 54 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 3: a lot more than the average eighteen year old. So 55 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 3: he already has a lot of life experience in world experience, 56 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 3: and a lot of knowledge, and a lot of political knowledge. 57 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 3: He grew up in this game of politics, and so 58 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 3: he's a quick learner. And it was really fun to 59 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 3: collaborate with him on that. The president takes Baron's advice seriously. 60 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 3: He takes all of his kids advice seriously. It's a 61 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 3: luxury for this president that he has smart and capable children. 62 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: Every single one of them is smart and capable and 63 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: contributed in their own way with their own relationships, with 64 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: their own ideas. And it made my job easy because 65 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 3: I just had to help facilitate some of this stuff. 66 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 3: You know, we have times where we would collaborate on 67 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: ideas and I have a recommendation and they would go 68 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: to bat for me, or they'd have a recommendation and 69 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 3: I would go to bat for them. And it was 70 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 3: really just a seamless team effort, and I was blessed 71 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 3: to be put in that position. We certainly had a 72 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 3: lot of fun. But look at this family. It's an 73 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 3: incredible family, and it's a luxury to have a great 74 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 3: first family. The previous president, quok A Joe Biden, didn't 75 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 3: really have a great family. He had a son who 76 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: was the smartest guy he knew named Hunter Biden. And Hunter, 77 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 3: if you're not familiar, is addicted to crack cocaine and 78 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 3: likes to commit other crimes. And that was a senior 79 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: advisor in the White House for him. And now we 80 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: have all of these other great children this president. So 81 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 3: we're certainly at an advantage having smart and capable children 82 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: for the first family, and the Democrats don't have that. 83 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: You talked about something interesting, because Baron Trump really did. 84 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: He grew up in the White House. 85 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he's been around the politics, the political game 86 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: his entire life unlike the other kids. The other kids 87 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: were much more of the they'd been around their dad's 88 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: businesses and so they had kind of a business mindset. 89 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: I think you would probably agree the political mindset is special. 90 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: You have to see it from a different direction. 91 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: But also he's seeing this not only from being in 92 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: the White House, but having lived through two assassinate assassination 93 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: attempts on his father, and instead of really getting mad 94 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: or wanting to get even, he came out with these 95 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: phenomenal ideas of, Hey, I think you should reach out 96 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: to this person and this person and just sit down 97 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,679 Speaker 1: and have a talk. Did you ever feel like during 98 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: the campaign he was frustrated with us or did he 99 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: just have like this pinpoint focus of we're going to 100 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: win people over. 101 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 3: No. I mean, Baron and I would collaborate quite often 102 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: on some of these suggestions, but he was always very focused. 103 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 3: He was very focused on on the task of hand 104 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: in the mission I had. You know, he obviously was 105 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 3: also going to school and he had a lot of 106 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 3: he had a lot on his plate, and so you know, 107 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 3: whether he would text me or I would text him 108 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 3: about a podcast that was about the collaboration, that was 109 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: how he would collaborate very quick. It wasn't you know. 110 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 3: He and I were like breaking down the each detail 111 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: of each podcast. We were like, hey, this guy's got 112 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 3: a big audience, you know, we think you should do it, sir, 113 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: and he was like, all right, let's make it happen. 114 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 3: And we obviously had some great moments. Aiden Ross, who 115 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 3: was a twenty three year old video game streamer, one 116 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 3: of the largest platforms, you know, in the world. We 117 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 3: had all at one point when we did the Aiden 118 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: Ross interview, that was really spearheaded. That one was really 119 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 3: spearheaded by Baron. We had a million concurrent viewers at 120 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 3: one time, and then through some suggestions between you know, 121 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 3: me and the President, I mean, we had moments where 122 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 3: some of our clips from that interview had twenty five 123 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 3: million views, thirty million views just individual clips, and so 124 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 3: like across the board, we have hundreds of millions of 125 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 3: views on one interview. And then a couple of weeks 126 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: later we did the Avonts podcast and Andrew Schulz's podcast 127 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 3: and The Undertaker. You know, we did The Undertaker's podcast 128 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 3: as the President's favorite wrestler, and that was a really 129 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: easy pitch that didn't really take much selling on that one. 130 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 3: He was like, let's absolutely do the Undertaker's podcast, and 131 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 3: they talked. You know, the President's at WWE Hall of Famer. 132 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 3: That's something that not a lot of people know, but 133 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 3: he is in the WWE Hall of Fame. And so 134 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 3: we did this interview with the Undertaker, and the WWE 135 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 3: fan pages have the largest reach of any fan pages 136 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 3: of any major sports. So the clips that we got 137 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: from doing the interview with the Undertaker tens of millions 138 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 3: of voters just organically, and so we just kind of 139 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 3: tapped into some of these really fun projects. And we 140 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 3: probably wouldn't have been able to do it if we 141 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 3: didn't have Donald Trump as the candidate. I mean, Donald 142 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 3: Trump's personality who he is, really made this flourish more 143 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: than anything. And you know, he just has an ability 144 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 3: to authentically connect with everybody he talks with, and you know, 145 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 3: he was just talking to some of the biggest stars 146 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: in the world with some of the biggest platforms in 147 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 3: the world. So it kind of worked out very nicely 148 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 3: for us. 149 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: I've heard so many people say that this race changes 150 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: how all other political races will be run from now on, 151 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: not only from the standpoint of talking on podcasts and 152 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: changing the media outlook because in the past we've been 153 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: kind of trapped in this leftist media and you had 154 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: just a few places you could go. So the podcast 155 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: obviously change that and allow him to talk long form 156 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: and get all of the information out about his campaign, 157 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: something that I think in general Democrats struggle with because 158 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: they really don't have anything beyond talking points. I've heard 159 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: very few messages coming out of the Democrat Party since 160 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: the campaign that are coherent or have any plans for 161 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: moving forward. There's no true structure there, and I think 162 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: that's panicking them. But he also was pretty targeted on 163 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: social media and pretty targeted on I guess I would 164 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: say like digital advertising. So what do you see as 165 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: the change from what races were in the past, even 166 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two to twenty twenty four and beyond. 167 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Democrats think it's as simple as putting their 168 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 3: candidates on podcasts again. And to like the Kamost team's credit, 169 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: I actually got to know one of the girls who 170 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 3: helped run the influencer podcast strategy for kmmwass campaign. She's 171 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: a very nice girl and to her credit, she recognized 172 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: the importance of doing alternative media. And so, but their 173 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 3: problem was the more people heard from Kamala Harris, the 174 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 3: less they liked her. And so, if your message sucks, 175 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 3: you can it sucks. The more people hear from you, 176 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 3: it's not going to be a helpful situation. Donald Trump, 177 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: on the other hand, the more people heard from him 178 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 3: directly from him, the more they liked him, They could 179 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 3: relate to him. They you know, heard the side of 180 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 3: him at the media hid for the greater part of 181 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 3: a decade, and so they're like, wow, this is you know, 182 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 3: Donald Trump is not who I thought he was. He's 183 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 3: this great guy. And so they gravitated towards him. And so, 184 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: if your message sucks and your candidate is not somebody 185 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 3: that is a likable person, my advice is, don't put 186 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: them on podcasts because they will expose your vulnerabilities. And so, 187 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 3: you know, like Jen Rubin, for example, she's a Washington Post, 188 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 3: a failed Washington Post reporter. She's now gone, and she's 189 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 3: not really the best person to look at, and her 190 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 3: voice is not this most beautiful sound in the world. 191 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 3: But she was like, well, this was the podcast election, 192 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 3: so now I need to go start a podcast. And 193 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: so Jen Rubin starting a will probably only hurt the 194 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 3: Democrats because she's a terrible messenger. She's a very odd individual, 195 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 3: and so you know, I'm very grateful that they think 196 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 3: it's as simple as, oh, we need to start a podcast, 197 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 3: because I think it's actually gonna only hurt them. So 198 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be unique, just depending on the candidates. 199 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 3: I don't think there's gonna be one blueprint moving forward. 200 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 3: I think that you have to be flexible. I think 201 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 3: what this campaign proved is that you know, uh, you're 202 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,119 Speaker 3: you have no idea what they're going to throw at you. 203 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 3: Multiple arrests, multiple assassination attempts, you know, weaponized justice system, 204 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: switching the candidates, Like everything was thrown at this candidate 205 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 3: and this campaign team, and we never like, we never faltered. 206 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 3: We just kind of we just rolled with the punches, 207 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 3: We adjusted the game plan, and we just kept pushing forward. 208 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 3: And so I think a lot of campaigns just get 209 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 3: set in their ways, like this is my campaign strategy, 210 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 3: I'm not changing it, and then they end up lo 211 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 3: us because they're too stubborn. So I think you have 212 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 3: to be willing to change and be willing to be flexible. 213 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 3: I think that's just the blueprint moving forward. 214 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 215 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon podcast. Well, and I think Donald Trump 216 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: was a unique candidate. And not only that, did the 217 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: president win over the people. When he was on these podcasts, 218 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: you could see the hosts that were like, well, kind 219 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: of like this guy. 220 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: He's fun. 221 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: He has that hit factor where you could just talk 222 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: to him and you feel like you actually are talking 223 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: to him. You know him, he's the real deal. And 224 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: I think that's because he is. He's very transparent. I mean, 225 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: we're seeing that in government right now. I guess the 226 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: leftists and the bureaucracy and even government employees are freaking 227 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: out on a daily basis like oh my gosh, they're 228 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: doing this, this and this. Well yeah, but they're telling 229 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: you exactly what they're doing. Where you made the point 230 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: about Hunter Biden being his top advisor, but Hunter Biden 231 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: wasn't telling us what he was advising him. We had 232 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: no idea what was going on in the White Houses. 233 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: Certainly wasn't Joe Biden who was making the decisions in 234 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: the White House. 235 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: And we don't know if there were decisions being made. 236 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 1: I mean, just the fact that we've brought home all 237 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: of these hostages, that Donald Trump has been able to 238 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: negotiate these hostage released, and he's also talking to President 239 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: Putin about ending that war he's negotiating. 240 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: Over in the Middle East right now. 241 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: We were not seeing any of this under Joe Biden, 242 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: and I think that's very scary. I think it's interesting 243 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: to watch how the campaign has transitioned very nicely into 244 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: the White House and still that transparency is there, and 245 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: that transparency is what is getting under the skin of 246 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: the left, which is shocking. It's not shocking, but it 247 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: should be shocking to the American people. 248 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 3: Right. And to start with the first point on the 249 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 3: President Trump winning over the hosts, like that was so 250 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 3: evident and when we went into talking so I started 251 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: talking with these podcast hosts before the President went on 252 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 3: and kind of just gauged their temperature and kind of 253 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 3: where they stood. And none of them were anti Trump, 254 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 3: but none of them were pro Trump. They were Trump curious. 255 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: See this is good to know because I think some 256 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: people felt like they went in with the bias of yeah, 257 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: we love him. 258 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 3: Right, that was that's misinformation and disinformation and the bloom 259 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 3: and Bloomberg and all of the liberal media, the Ready 260 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 3: reports about how this was a right wing ecosystem that's 261 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 3: been being created for four years, Like that wasn't the 262 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 3: case at all. Like these podcast hosts were relatively apolitical, 263 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 3: and they were just curious to hear Donald Trump directly 264 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 3: and just meet the guide directly and see what happened. 265 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 3: But you're right, Donald Trump, when he sat down on 266 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 3: these couches and he did these interviews with these people, 267 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: he won them over. And another thing would happen after 268 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 3: he got off the podcast with these people. The media 269 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 3: would not only attacked Trump, but they would also attack 270 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 3: the podcast hosts. And one of the most ridiculous examples 271 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 3: of this was a barstool sports podcast called Busting with 272 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 3: the Boys. Two former NFL football players that interviewed the 273 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 3: President talking about the president's days of being a high 274 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 3: school football player, and the President said that I played 275 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 3: tight end, but I didn't like running across the middle 276 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 3: of the field and get hit by a guy from 277 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 3: a bad neighborhood, right, And he said it in a 278 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 3: funny way. The hosts on the podcast chuckled and laughed, 279 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 3: and The Washington Post the next day writes a pro 280 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 3: tries to write a piece on how Donald Trump's comments 281 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 3: about the Rough neighborhood were racist, and the two NFL 282 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 3: football players who laughed at the joke were also racist. 283 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: So they reached out to the podcast host and they 284 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 3: were like, you know, why'd you laugh at this racist joke? 285 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 3: Da da da and Will Compton, one of the former 286 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 3: players and one of the hosts. He responded and I 287 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 3: apologized for being vulgar, but he farted into the phone 288 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 3: back to the Washington Post reporter and he uploaded that 289 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 3: to social media. But like the media would would come 290 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 3: in over the top and almost like push these people 291 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 3: further into our corner, into our camp, because these guys 292 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 3: who are relatively apolitical, they became part of these media 293 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 3: hoaxes and like, wait a second, that is so bizarre, 294 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 3: Like that's not how I recall that interview going. And 295 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 3: so that was that was super funny. But back to 296 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 3: like being the president being transparent, that's a key. That's 297 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 3: something that he genuinely believes and he wants to restore 298 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 3: trust to the American people, and he believes you do 299 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 3: that by transparency, and he wants to be as open 300 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 3: as possible. That's why he communicates as freely as he 301 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 3: does on his personal social media. That's why he did 302 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 3: these long form podcast interviews. That's why he is doing, 303 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 3: you know, bringing the American people into the Oval office 304 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:59,239 Speaker 3: with him. That's why he's giving new seats to alternative 305 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 3: media outlets in the White House Press briefing room. You know, 306 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 3: he believes wholeheartedly in transparency and in trust with the public, 307 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 3: and I think he's I think the American people are 308 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 3: going to benefit from this. 309 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: So let me ask you about buying social media influence though, 310 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: because obviously I don't think that the president really had 311 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: to buy social media influence. He has people that love him, 312 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: they're big influencers. They talk about him, vice versa. He 313 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: has people that don't love him, and they talk about him. 314 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: They're generally not as loud, to be honest, But you saw, 315 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: I mean, we saw Kamala Harris try to buy influence 316 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: through celebrities. We now we know there's these networks that 317 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: are out there, and I think they've been incredibly effective 318 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: with some of the products that they push in movies 319 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: that they're pushing. What is the difference when you look 320 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: at a social media influencer network when it comes to politics, 321 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: is it effective to buy social media influence when you're 322 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:02,479 Speaker 1: a politician. 323 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't believe. So. I think what's changing 324 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 3: is now is we live in a day and age 325 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 3: where we are constantly consuming digital content and we can 326 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 3: quickly decipher what's a paid ad and what's an organic post, 327 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 3: and so if it seems that this is not organic, 328 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 3: you'll get quickly skipped over and I'll be dismissed. And 329 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 3: I think everything about Kamala Harris's campaign felt forced and 330 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 3: felt like a paid ad, where everything that we did 331 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: was organic, and so I hesitant. I don't think that 332 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 3: buying influencer or these influencer networks are beneficial to political 333 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 3: can it's moving forward, especially if it becomes public that 334 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 3: that influence in fact is being paid. You have to 335 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 3: inspire support, You have to inspire these people to get 336 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 3: involved in and Trump is very unique because before he 337 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 3: got involved in politics, this online ecosystem of a lot 338 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 3: of these right wing influencers didn't really exist. People like 339 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 3: me didn't exist pre Trump. I built my following of 340 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: you know, over half a million you know, social media 341 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 3: followers strictly being an advocate and a defender of the 342 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 3: president's policies and being a defender of the president, and 343 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 3: there's dozens and dozens of accounts like mine, and so 344 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 3: he inspired this entire ecosystem. And so I don't know 345 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 3: necessarily what that looks like post him, but you know, 346 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 3: we've seen candidates, whether it's in the Republican primary this 347 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 3: past election or on the Democrat side, that hired an 348 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 3: army of influencers that you know, regurgitates certain talking points 349 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 3: right on, like the same message, right at the same time, 350 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 3: and it doesn't seem organic, and I think the people 351 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 3: see through that, and I think it actually has a 352 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 3: negative effect the candidates that are that are doing that. 353 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 2: Well, what happens with social media? 354 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: Then now we see I mean, obviously there are people 355 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: out there that are champions on either side, but it 356 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: had been that it was a struggle to get the 357 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: voices on the right to be heard. 358 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 2: Meta has suddenly seemingly changed. 359 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,479 Speaker 1: Their tune and you are actually talking to them on 360 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: a somewhat regular basis. So tell us what you think 361 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: happened after this race, because I think we were all 362 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: kind of like, hmm, did Mark Zuckerberg really just have 363 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: a massive change of heart when he saw Donald Trump 364 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: lift up his fist and say fight, fight Fight. I mean, 365 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it couldn't have happened, because I think 366 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: it was an inspiring moment for everyone across the country. 367 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: But what's your take on exactly what's happening right Well. 368 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 3: I think that Donald Trump won the election, and Facebook 369 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 3: and Meta now recognize that, and they're trying to play nice, 370 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 3: and you know, I don't know if it's genuine, but 371 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 3: the changes are certainly welcome. But I still know dozens 372 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 3: and dozens, if not hundreds of people personally know that 373 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 3: still are banned from Facebook. They can't go on their 374 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 3: Facebook accounts. They have been demonetized or deplatformed, and I 375 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 3: don't know if these guys are ever coming back to 376 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 3: these accounts. And I think that Meta has already. I 377 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 3: think Meta has lost the trust of millions and millions 378 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 3: of conservatives, and I don't think removing tampons from the 379 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 3: boys bathrooms will restore that trust. I also think that 380 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 3: spending five hundred million dollars to help Joe Biden in 381 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 3: twenty twenty is not equal to removing tampons from voice bathrooms. 382 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 3: I think Mark certainly has a long way to go 383 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 3: if he wants to get even. But I mean X 384 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 3: certainly paved the way for these social media platforms, and 385 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 3: the success of true social is also big, and we're 386 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 3: seeing success with Rumbull and so a lot of the 387 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 3: alternative media forcing the juggernauts of tech to move closer 388 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 3: to the center or to the right. I hope it's genuine. 389 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 3: I hope it's not just you know, this four year 390 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 3: face here, but you know, the timing certainly is unique. 391 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 3: But if you also look there adding Dana White to 392 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 3: the board of Meta, which I think is a productive thing. 393 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 3: I think Dana White, I don't think his opinion is 394 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:29,239 Speaker 3: for sale, and he'll certainly be an advocate for the 395 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 3: president and for our movement within and I think that's 396 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 3: a very positive development. I have personal friends who have 397 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 3: joined the Meta policy team, which I think is a 398 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 3: good next step as well, where actual mega voices are 399 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 3: inside and having these discussions and going to bat for 400 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 3: us internally. Before twenty twenty, I didn't know a single 401 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 3: human being at Meta. The customer cert like it was terrible, 402 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 3: and so now they've really made an effort to do 403 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 3: outreach to conservatives. But I think a lot of conservatives 404 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 3: are right to be skeptical of these changes, and I 405 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 3: guess only time and actions will tell if they're serious. 406 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 407 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I mean, I think there has 408 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: to be some regret on the part of these social 409 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: media companies after living through four years of Joe Biden. 410 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: And I say that because I think even in the 411 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: midst of it, these social media. 412 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 2: Companies were like, well, I mean, it's not that bad. 413 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: He came in with this COVID situation and he's still 414 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: working his way out of that. 415 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 2: They could make up all of these excuses. 416 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: But this last few weeks with Donald Trump has been 417 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: such a stark difference for them that they have to 418 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: be looking at this and saying, my gosh, this war 419 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: broke out in Ukraine, this war broke out in Israel. 420 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 2: Now you have somebody who is. 421 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: Actually genuinely negotiating, and you don't even question whether or 422 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: not the president is able to have those conversation, Which 423 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: sounds crazy, but there was really a time when we 424 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: were like, do we trust the president to talk to Putin? 425 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: Is the president able to have a discussion with Yahoo? 426 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: Like can this even occur. And now we see, like 427 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: I said earlier, you see the hostages coming home, You 428 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: see massive changes being made. 429 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 2: You see. 430 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: I mean, and you can't even deny what Elon Musk 431 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: is doing. To go through and say, we can't continue 432 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: to have this massive amount of debt. We can't, we 433 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: can't go into bankruptcy as a country like this is ridiculous. 434 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: I think it has to be the social media companies 435 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: will look at this from now on and say, I mean, 436 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 1: if they're being honest, they have to see that they 437 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: were duped into helping somebody who was about to completely 438 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: destroy the country. 439 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think duped is actually kind of a cap 440 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 3: out for a lot of these people. I think I 441 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 3: think they very well knew what they were doing four 442 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 3: years ago. I don't maybe they were great now, but 443 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 3: I think they were very lucid to what they were 444 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: doing in the previous election. 445 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I think they knew that they were helping 446 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: him to win. Do you think that they knew how 447 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: much the country would suffer because of it? Do you 448 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: think they had that true vision of what he was 449 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: going to do. 450 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 3: I don't know if it was I guess I don't 451 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 3: know if it was that malicious, but I think they were. 452 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 3: I think they believed the anti Trump hate and the 453 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 3: media certainly, and they elevated a lot of these rabid 454 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 3: leftists into their key positions within their companies. And I 455 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 3: think that certain people in those companies align themselves with 456 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 3: the disastrous by An administration obviously, and cheered on a 457 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 3: lot of his policies from censorship. I mean, these guys exactly, 458 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 3: they knew what they were doing when they were censoring 459 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 3: voices who questioned the vaccines or questioned the results of 460 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 3: the twenty and twenty election. They certainly knew what they 461 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 3: were doing then. But in a weird that four year period, 462 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 3: that pause period gave the president time to prepare for 463 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 3: this moment. And that's why he's able to hit the 464 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 3: ground running as fast as he is because he didn't. 465 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 3: You know, he wasn't just sleeping for four years, like 466 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 3: he was working. He was building up exactly what executive 467 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 3: orders he wanted to get going on day one. That's 468 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 3: why he signed the most executive orders than any president 469 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 3: in history on his first day in the Oval office. 470 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 3: That's why he's doing executive orders almost every single day. 471 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 3: I mean, he's prepared for the last four years for 472 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 3: this moment, and I don't think that any president has 473 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 3: ever been more prepared on day one than he has been. 474 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 3: And also his administration, he had four years to build 475 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 3: up his team. He had four years to weed out 476 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 3: those who were sabotagers and bring in people who were 477 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 3: going to help advance the America First agenda. And we 478 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 3: also made tremendous friends along the way. You met. You 479 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 3: mentioned Elon Musk. We didn't have Elon Musk this last 480 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 3: administ In the last administration, we have the wealthiest guy 481 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 3: in the world, when of the smartest men to ever 482 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 3: walk this earth, that is volunteering his time to help 483 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 3: the president, to help this administration cut trillions of dollars 484 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 3: of waste. And he also just so happens to have 485 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 3: one of the largest platforms, if not the largest platform 486 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 3: in the world, with two hundred and twenty million X followers, 487 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 3: that he can disseminate the messages of this administration and 488 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 3: doge in a very fast manner. And so I think, 489 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 3: you know, in hindsight, the Democrats are the tech companies 490 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 3: probably regret, you know, rigging the twenty twenty election because 491 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 3: now it's enacting change. The mega movement is actually being 492 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 3: advanced because of them in kind of a weird way. 493 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 2: So no, I totally agree. 494 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 1: I thought it was fascinating when Elon Musk came out 495 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: and said to retire. We can only retire ten thousand 496 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: people from the government a month because it's all manual. 497 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: And you go down to this limestone mine and he's like, 498 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: we'll post pictures, and then he put he should it. 499 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 2: He posted the pictures. 500 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: And I'm like, that is I mean, truly, that's the 501 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: power of having a platform that is that big and 502 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: having a voice that's that big. You have a huge voice. 503 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: You've done great things. You've been instrumental in getting this 504 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: president back into office. 505 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 2: So what is next for you? 506 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: Because there was a time when I heard you were 507 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: talking about running for office. So do you see a 508 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: future in Washington at any point for you? 509 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 3: Oh? I don't know about that. I think I have 510 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 3: too much fun on the outside. And uh, I got 511 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 3: a great guy in that race. So I was a 512 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 3: pump fake to run and I ended up recruiting my 513 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 3: buddy Tony Weed to run in Congress in Green Bay, Wisconsin, 514 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 3: and the President endorsed him on the spot and he 515 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 3: won his race in actually a larger margin than his predecessor. 516 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 3: And it all started because Mike Gallagher he voted to 517 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 3: defend Alejandro Majorcis during his impeachment vote. He was the 518 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 3: only Republican defend to defend the guy. And I'm like, 519 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 3: what the heck was that about. And so some people 520 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 3: called me and said, Alex, go run against Mike Alagher. 521 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 3: I was like, okay, I'll go and tease it. And 522 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 3: so we campaigned in the district a bit and a 523 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 3: poll came out that showed me, you know, leading like 524 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 3: fifteen or sixteen percent. And I was never considered a 525 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 3: candidate before. And then I was like, I don't know 526 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 3: if I want to run. I want to go help 527 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 3: the president win. And so I think I made the 528 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 3: right decision on that front. But we got a great 529 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 3: candidate in there. But what's next for me is for 530 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 3: the next four years, we're going to be hyper focused 531 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 3: on defending the president and this administration from the outside. 532 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 3: We're going to keep a lot of the social media 533 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 3: channels active, the Trump War Room accounts, the Team Trump accounts. 534 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 3: These are massive platforms with millions of followers that can 535 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 3: be really effective tools for this administration. And for the 536 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 3: Republican Party to digitally advocate and promote what we're working on. 537 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 3: And so I'm going to be my team, my company. 538 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 3: We're going to be playing an instrumental role in that. 539 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 3: And also, the midterms are are very close, They're right 540 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 3: around the corner. We got to make sure that we 541 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 3: have mega candidates all across the board that you know, 542 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 3: that believe in the president's agenda, that are great messengers 543 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 3: of his agenda, because we I think the twenty twenty 544 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 3: four election prove that you really need effective messengers. And 545 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 3: if you look at who's you know, stars in Congress 546 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 3: right now, in governor's races, et cetera. If you look 547 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 3: at the cabinet, all of our cabinet members are great 548 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 3: and effective messengers. So messaging, messaging is important. So we 549 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 3: have to make sure that we have great messengers in 550 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 3: all of these seats across the country, and we're going 551 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 3: to have I'm going to help play a role in 552 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 3: that as well. 553 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: Awesome, Well, we look forward to it and someday we're 554 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: not ruling out that someday you run, but we appreciate 555 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: the fact that you're having fun on this side of 556 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: it because we see what you're doing in the massive 557 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: effect that you're having. So thank you and thank you 558 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: so much for coming on the podcast today. 559 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Tutor. Great being with you. 560 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: Absolutely that was Alex bruce Woodz And thank you all 561 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,239 Speaker 1: for joining us on the Tutor Dickson Podcast. For this 562 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: podcast and others who can go to Tutor Dixon podcast 563 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: dot com, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get 564 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: your podcasts and join us the next time. Have a 565 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: blessed day.