1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you should Know from how Stuff Works 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. 3 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant. There's Jerry over there. Uh, 4 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: and it's two thousand seventeen. Jerry or Benevolent Dictator? Yeah 5 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: for real. She's got those epaulets that she wears all 6 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: the time and sunglasses. I was just commenting. I thought 7 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: this is a pretty good article here from how Stuff Works. Yeah, 8 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: I've heard that before. Who wrote this one? Do you 9 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: have that on there? I always have it on there. 10 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: You didn't have it today. It might be a Shane 11 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: of Freeman joint. I think it. Maybe that sounds familiar. Anyway, 12 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: it's a good one. Yeah, and here it is. That 13 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: was that was the word for word my intro that 14 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: you just stole. Well, my mind reading class has been 15 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: paying off, Chuck. Have you ever lived under a dictatorship? Uh? 16 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: Not exactly. No, No, I haven't either, And I think 17 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: we should kind of consider ourselves fairly lucky because it 18 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: turns out that not only were we born in a 19 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: country that most people would argue is not a dictatorship. 20 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: Although you can find plenty of websites to argue that 21 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: it is. It has been for the last several years, 22 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: possibly even for the most part, most people would say, 23 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: it's not a dictatorship. So we were lucky to be 24 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: born in a country that isn't a dictatorship. But not 25 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: only that, we're lucky to be born in a time 26 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: when dictatorships have become fairly um hard to find comparatively speaking, 27 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: because dictatorships were basically the way that people were ruled 28 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: for thousands of years up until very recent times, around 29 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: the time of the Enlightenment, when the idea of individual 30 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: liberties and the protection of those individual liberties um became 31 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: kind of widespread. Yeah, and this article kind of starts off. 32 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: I thought it was um. I thought it was interesting 33 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: that you don't often Well, first of all, the word 34 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: dictator is just one like the one who dictates the thing. 35 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: It's kind of funny when you break down the actual definition, 36 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, well, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. 37 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: Then it's the guy who paces back and forth in 38 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: front of the desk while somebody's typing what he's saying 39 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: take dictation. But they don't call themselves that very often, 40 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: although it has happened before. We get into the history. Um, 41 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: it's it's we should point out that like Castro and 42 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: Saddam Hussein, you never hear them say I'm dictator as 43 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: a bad rap. You know, I'm the dictator Fidel Castro. Yeah, 44 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: it's like how propaganda got turned into pr Yeah, that 45 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: will call themselves premier or president or chancellor or pure 46 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: boss of view. Uh. Kim Kim jong ill holds three titles. 47 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: I think he's looking for a fourth and fifth like 48 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: as we speak, Well, he's in the ground and his 49 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: son Oh wait, I got this too confused, right, Well 50 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,839 Speaker 1: he held three titles, Yes he did. I imagine, Well, 51 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: his son probably holds four. Then he probably found that 52 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: fourth just made one up. Did you know that? There's 53 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: like I I you know that Kim jong un is 54 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: h the supreme leader of North Korea, but he actually 55 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: technically shares power with two other officials as well. They 56 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: have basically a triumvirt going there. It was news to me. Yeah, 57 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: those guys are called keep Quiet one and keep quiet too. 58 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: I was just looking up some of his greatest hits recently, 59 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: and um Kim Jong un alone has already started to 60 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: amass several but one was a North Korean leader, pretty 61 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: high ranking official was executed with an anti aircraft machine 62 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: gun for slouching or following asleep at a at a meeting. 63 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: Holy cow, right, but do you hear stuff like imagine 64 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: what that would do to a body? Yeah, oh my god, 65 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: But you should. You should take that kind of stuff 66 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: with a grain of salt, especially when it's coming out 67 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: of North Korea, because we have really virtually no idea 68 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: what's going on day to day over there, even big 69 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: events like that. Even if it is true that that 70 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: guy was executed with an anti aircraft gun, whether or 71 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: not it was for falling asleep during a meeting or 72 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: something like that, remains to be seen. Yeah, you're saying 73 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: to take any information with a grain of salt. Yes, yes, 74 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: it's good advice. Thanks. Uh. But um as Shana, I believe. 75 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: Shana points out that that dictators do have some things 76 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: in common, and one of the big ones is is 77 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: almost a hundred percent of the time a dictator doesn't 78 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: come to power through an election. They're usually not freely 79 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: elected to that position. No, but they have been. They 80 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: have been, yeah, pretty prominently like Hitler, Yeah, he was 81 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: an elector. That wouldn't he named ancelor. Yes, by the 82 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: elected president though, right, but he still wasn't elected. No, 83 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: I guess that's true. Okay, fine, well let's get into 84 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: history then. All right, so you say dictator's got a 85 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: bad it got it's gotten a bad rap over the years, 86 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: right as far as calling yourself that, I think so. 87 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: But it officially originally and I couldn't. I saw a 88 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: couple of references degrease. But it seems to be Rome, 89 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: classic rome Um, classic Rome. Yeah, it trips coming into 90 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: the party and everybody's like, that's classic Rome. He tried 91 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: to walk through that screen door wasn't open, So classical Rome. 92 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: How about that? It seems to be an invention of 93 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: classical Rome. Right. Um, there was a station called dictator. 94 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: There's an office basically, and in ancient rome Um the 95 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: leadership was held by two men called councils, and they 96 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: were equally powerful from what I understands, council console um. 97 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: And when something went down and stuff hit the fan, 98 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: the Romans tided tradition of appointing one of the council's 99 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: uh dictator, which is basically an emergency investment of unparalleled 100 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: power into this one person and the whole thinking behind 101 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: it was when you were faced with an emergency, When 102 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: the state was faced with an emergency, you needed somebody 103 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: who could basically get stuff done, like a single voice. Yeah, 104 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: I didn't have to go to the Senate to ask anything, 105 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: didn't have to go um worry about making the wrong move. 106 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: The dictator couldn't be held um criminally liable for their decisions, 107 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: didn't have to worry about not being invited to the 108 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: other console's Christmas party the next year. The other council 109 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: wanted to be invited to the dictator's Christmas party. That's right. 110 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: So there was an investment of these emergency powers in 111 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: this one person. And usually I saw one year. This 112 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: article says sasted for six months, and then the dictator 113 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: would be like, wow, that was a wild ride. I'm 114 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: going back to my normal life. The rebellion has been 115 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: quelled or the siege is over, something like that. Yeah. 116 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: And interestingly, there were a few rules. They couldn't be 117 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: held legally responsible for their actions. Big one. Uh, it 118 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: says couldn't be an office longer than six months. Although 119 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: I think is I think they were there to handle 120 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: the situation as kind of as long as that took 121 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: for the most part. But there were also guys who 122 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: are like, whoa, I like the feel of this. I'm 123 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: not giving this up. And they'll say, well you have to, 124 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: we say, and then they said, well I'm the dictator. 125 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: And they said, we hadn't thought this all the way through. Yeah, 126 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: that's true. They could change Roman law and the constitution. 127 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: They couldn't use public money, uh and less other than 128 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: what the Senate said you could use it for. So 129 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: they supposedly still and these are the official rules, you know, 130 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: as we see um coming up here. People bent these rules. Uh. 131 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: And they couldn't leave Italy was the last one. It's 132 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: just a good one. And they would have like Colombo 133 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: come in and deliver that last bit. We look, just 134 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: don't even in Italy for a while. Okay, that's your Colombo, impressman. Yeah, 135 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: he sounded just like Josh Clark thought it was spot on. 136 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: Uh So this kind of happened here and there until 137 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: about two o two b c um. And then about 138 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: a hundred years after that, a gentleman named Lucius Cornelius Sula. 139 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: I love all these Roman dictators sound like either seventies 140 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: like Black Exploitation movie stars or Roman gladiators. Uh, so 141 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: he was appointed dictator without a term limit and didn't 142 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: have these restrictions, and so this sort of changed the 143 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: game from here on out. And he actually wanted Caesar dead. 144 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: So Caesar ran off and joined the army Julius Caesar, 145 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: I should say, um, and and just basically laid low 146 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: until Sela died. And then Caesar came back and he 147 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: was appointed counsel and then dictator himself. He succeeded Sola, 148 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: right and Caesar um is very well known to be 149 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,599 Speaker 1: a dictator, but he actually if you look at the 150 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: stuff he did, he was a friend to the people. 151 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: He forgave debts among the pretty much among the middle 152 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: and lower classes. Um. He improved infrastructure he um. He 153 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: basically went to bat for the lower classes, which threatened 154 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: the elite because he made him immensely popular. Plus he 155 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: was a dictator, so he actually created it. He staged 156 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: a coup to become a dictator right to gain power, 157 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: which we'll talk about a little more. And then a 158 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: coup was plotted against him and he was assassinated by 159 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: the ruling elite of the Senate on my birthday. Yeah, 160 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: well a long time before my birthday. But you know 161 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: what I mean back in Uh, yeah, I mean we've 162 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: tossed out benevolent dictator a couple of times getting around. 163 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: But that's a real term, and that generally means a 164 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: dictator who for the most part isn't just in it 165 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: for themselves and they are trying to make things better 166 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: for the people. Right. But it depends on your perspective. Yeah, exactly. So, 167 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: like the ruling elite found him very threatening, they would 168 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: not have considered him benevolent at all. But like say, 169 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: the average plebeian would have been like, I love Caesar. Yeah, 170 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: give me some more of the coins with his face 171 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: on it. Yeah. I mean, followers of Castro still after 172 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 1: his death say he was a benevolent dictator, but people say, no, 173 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: it's perspective. It's a subjective term. Basically. Napoleon actually, um, 174 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: he came to power again like many dictators, in a 175 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: state of emergency, and he was actually a benevolent dictator 176 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: in a sense because he he did a lot of 177 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: great things for a while for the people. Right. He 178 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: was extremely popular. Yeah, he was undef he did at 179 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: the time that he rose to power. Um, he was 180 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: appointed counsel and then he said, you know what, let's 181 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: go a little further than that. I'm going to call 182 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: myself emperor. And they said, okay, Napoleon. What could possibly 183 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: go wrong with that? Yeah? Well, first he was named 184 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: counseled and he was like, I think council for life 185 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: has a better ring to it. And then that wasn't enough, 186 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: so he's like, let's just shorten that. Like you said, though, 187 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: he was super popular because he was he was undefeated 188 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: as a military leader. He balanced the budget, he reformed government, 189 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: He wrote the civil law, which a lot of is 190 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: still around the day in France. Yeah, civil law, right, 191 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: not too bad. He had a lasting impact, for sure, 192 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: he did. But again again to call him benevolent, if 193 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: you remember parliament who was thrown out of one of 194 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: the windows of Parliament when he took over, you probably 195 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't be like, you're so benevolent, right. He also control 196 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: had an iron thumb on the press. Uh. He controlled um, 197 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: every facetive government. He had spies working for him. So 198 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: it's not like and he wasn't just you know, buzz 199 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: of the clown. No, both Buzz of the Clown was 200 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: super shady. No. If you put all that together, though, Chuck, 201 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: you get the impression of why historians considered Napoleon the 202 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: first modern dictator. He checked basically every box there was. 203 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: He had it figured out. He drew new boxes and 204 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: check those. He said, all dictators to follow. Here's your boxes. 205 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: I just looked down at your notes and I want 206 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: to show you something. I think we should take a break. 207 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: But before then, okay, Chuck, I think you should see this. 208 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: So in this article UM on dictators from how Stuff Works, 209 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: there's a a sidebar is what they're called, and web 210 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: print parlance just a little extra bit and the title 211 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: of the subbar is dark Dictator. That's all we need 212 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: to say. And it talks about Emperor Palpatine in his rise. 213 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: And Chuck had his xed out and I independently x 214 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: mine out as well. So we won't be talking about 215 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: that today everybody, now, but let's do take that break 216 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: and we'll discuss that in private so you don't get 217 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: to know about it, and we'll be right back. Sk alright, 218 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: So we're back. Um. We talked about one of the 219 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: things that dictators had in common, as they generally aren't 220 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: elected and it like a fair election. Um, they are 221 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: usually ruling autocracies. Um, A lot of times they have 222 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: what's called the totalitarian regime. Yeah, we should talk about that. 223 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: That's a big one. That means you like you were 224 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: in control of all the news and all the meat 225 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: that gets out about everything. Right, So there there's a 226 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: there's a lot of confusion over the difference between authoritarianism 227 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: and totalitarianism. Uh. And a totalitarian regime is authoritarian, but 228 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: not all authoritarian regimes are totalitarian. An authoritarian regime is 229 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: where the government is headed by one single leader. Okay, 230 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: there's no parliament, there's no courts, there's no nothing that 231 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: that that leader doesn't either control or just doesn't exist 232 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: to counter that leader's decisions. A totalitarian regime is, like 233 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: you were saying, I think you're missing it. Either they could. 234 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: It's like deletrious. They control everything, not just the government. 235 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: They control the social aspects of life in that country. 236 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: They control the economy of that country, they control the media, 237 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: they control everything. It's totalitarian. Uh. Personal freedoms might be vanquished, 238 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: might be Um, there might be police, secret police, there 239 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: might be spies spying on citizens. Uh. It's not a 240 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: good way to live. No. And and also, um, you 241 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: will probably be encouraged at as a citizen to spy 242 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: on your fellow citizens, because authoritarian regimes quickly learn that 243 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: if you have a large population, it's kind of tough 244 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: and very expensive to keep tabs on everybody. So if 245 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: you have a secret police going around and people are 246 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: aware that there is a secret police, they're gonna behave 247 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: themselves more. And if you can get your citizens to 248 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: kind of keep an eye on one another, everybody's gonna 249 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: behave even further. That's a terrible way to live. Well, 250 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: and you know what, like it sounds like a totalitarian 251 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: ruler would be I bet there's a lot of paranoia 252 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: that goes along with that. Like when you're in that 253 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: kind of position. Oh, if you're the ruler, Yeah, it's 254 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: not just like rule everything. So it's all good. Like 255 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: at that point, you don't know who to trust you, right, 256 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: you're probably always looking over your shoulder, you know, it's 257 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: not like why why bother with all that? Right, Like 258 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: you know it's gonna end badly? Just kick back and 259 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: light adobie instead, Well, I bother with all that? Uh, 260 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: many times they're there, they foster what's known as a 261 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: cult of personality. And this is a big one. Um, 262 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: if you went into and saw Saddam Hussein's Iraq, or 263 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: you go to North Korea or in the times of 264 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: like Lenin and Stalin, you're gonna see a lot of 265 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: posters and statues of these leaders everywhere. Yeah, oh yeah, 266 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: like it's your ubiquitous you're taught that the um the 267 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: leader is basically the state. Who is this the leader? Right, 268 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: and the state is the most important thing. But the 269 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: state is personified by the leader. And sometimes they'll even 270 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: go so far as the state. By the way, the 271 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: leader is descended directly from God. So go make a 272 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: painting of a kid, right, and we're gonna put it 273 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: up in the town square. Who was the one who 274 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: had the statue rotated to face the sun. He was 275 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: the head of Turkmenistan. He changed his name when he 276 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: took go over his His birth name was supper Murat Niyazov, 277 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: but he changed his name to Turkmenbashi, and then he 278 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: started naming everything in Turkmenistan Turkmenbashi, including the month of January. 279 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: But he created that statue. Yeah, and he had this 280 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: golden statue rotated to always face the sun. So yeah, 281 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: he was always facing the sun, and he said, read 282 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: that quote. Man, that quote is awesome. Oh right, uh, 283 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: he said, quote, I'm personally against seeing my pictures and 284 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: statues in the streets, but it's what the people want. 285 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: We got that, I think from an od list. Actually, yeah, 286 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: we'll probably pepper in more of those. Um. But I mean, 287 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: I hope this drives home the point that these um 288 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: totalitarian dictators they're narcissists there, uh, megalomaniacs. They are obviously 289 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: paranoid um otherwise they wouldn't need to rule with an 290 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: iron fist. And um yeah, it's just not it's not 291 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: a good way to run a country. Like I said, 292 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: it always ends badly, I guess, to get caught up 293 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: in the power and they don't see what history has 294 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: taught us time and time again. I I wish we 295 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: knew what it was, because you can look around, especially 296 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: in the world today, and see country after country after 297 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: country sliding down that rabbit holes. Mental disorder on their part, 298 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: I think. But it doesn't just have to be be there, 299 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: doesn't just have to be like a single leader, like 300 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: even liberal democracies are starting to slide down that that 301 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: whole where like they want all the information possible on everybody, 302 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: and it's ultimately to keep control, you know. But is 303 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: it based on fear or is it based on paranoia, 304 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,959 Speaker 1: or is it based on that desire to hang on 305 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: to power or what which is brew of all those things? 306 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: Is it that creates that? Why do we keep doing 307 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: it over and over and over again because it always 308 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: is the it's the it's the death knell for a civilization. 309 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: When it's when the leadership starts doing that, it's unsustainable. Bowl. Yeah, 310 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: but and we'll talk a little bit about how they end, 311 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: but um, it always is badly. Like you see like 312 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: Saddam Hussein in power, like in these military uniforms, and 313 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: then you see this like sad old man pulled out 314 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: of a foxhole. Yeah, it looks like he washed up 315 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: on Gilligan's Island or something like. Or Noriega like wasting 316 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: away in prison, like begging to get out in a wheelchair. 317 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: And I would like to know the story behind that, 318 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: because yeah, Panama in the US were pretty good friends. 319 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, the US invades and now 320 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: Manuel Noriega is in prison in Miami and has been 321 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: for thirty years. Like sometimes went down that prison is he, oh, 322 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: that's right, and then they transferred him to uh well, 323 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: outside the Panama Canal ironically. Oh yeah, he's in some 324 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: prison there. He's like in a wheelchair and in his 325 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: early eighties and just yeah, not doing so hot. But 326 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,479 Speaker 1: he served his whole sentence I think in Miami, and 327 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: then they transferred him to Panama to phil to to 328 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: carry out another sentence down there. Yeah. Yeah, but m 329 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: went down that I don't know about. I'm intensely curious 330 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: to know. If anybody knows out there, tell me. I'm 331 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: sure you can find that out pretty easy, right apparently not. 332 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: I was just kidding. I bet it's highly guarded secret. 333 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: Do you think even after all these years, I don't know, 334 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: Noriega had motor He was a motor mouth. I'm sure 335 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: he told everybody who would listen. Uh well, we mentioned 336 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: Hitler earlier. Um he like he said, although not elected, 337 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: was legally installed. He was appointed chancellor by President Paul 338 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: van Hendenburg. And then once Hendenberg died, Hitler said, you 339 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: know what, there's this German word, uh feer, It means leader, 340 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: and he why don't we just make that my new title? 341 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: Which is because we don't really need a president and 342 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: a chancellor. I can be both dudes, and then eventually 343 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 1: I'll just kill myself and a bunker another let's say 344 00:20:55,359 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: sad end, but just pitiful end. You know. The great 345 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: word for sad indicates that, you know what I mean, 346 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: I don't have to over explain that doing so. But 347 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: Hitler he came to power legitimately. So did Saddam Hussein. 348 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: Actually he was the general of the Iraqi Army and 349 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: vice president and then as the president came, but I 350 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: think he fell ill um. Saddam Hussein started to take 351 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: on more and more power and finally was just like 352 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: I'm president forever now, okay. And I think that's the case. Like, 353 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: the point that this article is making is that there's 354 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: a number of different ways a dictator can come to power. 355 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: They can come to power and a power vacuum. They 356 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: can come to power in a coup, which we'll talk about. 357 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: They can come to power democratically. But if it's the 358 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: kind of person who wants to rule unfettered and they 359 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: come they know how to basically work the populace and 360 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: the circumstances are right, you know, like maybe there's fear 361 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: of of outsiders coming your way, or the economy is 362 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: bad or something like that, then you can conceivably consolidate 363 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: your power in turn whatever situation into a dictatorship. Yeah. 364 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: I think it's more it's based on the person and 365 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: the circumstances that the nation is in when that person 366 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: grabs power than it is on how they actually get 367 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: into power. Yeah, and whether or not the current leader 368 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: just happens like the out of town or something. Yeah, 369 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: that's another big one too. Sometimes. Yeah, that's just well, 370 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: let's go ahead and talk about coup, should we, Okay, sure, 371 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 1: So a coup is um. There are different kinds of 372 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 1: coup or coup deta, but um, a coup is different 373 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: than a revolution in that there is it's generally a 374 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: smaller affair. It's not some big mass uprising of people. 375 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: It's a dude gets a smallish band of his military 376 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: cohorts together and, like we were talking about, either someone 377 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: is sick or they're dying, or they're just out of 378 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: the country on business and they come back and they're like, 379 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: you're not in charge anymore. Yeah, sorry to tell you, 380 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: And they're like, man, the discount of this dishwasher was 381 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: not worth leaving the country for over this Uh, it 382 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: can be cous can be very bloody and violent, but 383 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: they don't have to be um. In fact, I think 384 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: a lot of times they're not violent. No, there's a 385 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: term a bloodless coup, and it's basically, uh, like a 386 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: couple of the things that make coups uh or is 387 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: it just coup Like you're saying, there's no s No, 388 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: there's an s. Is it silent? I don't know that, 389 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: So we're gonna go with coups. Okay, A couple of 390 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: hallmarks of coups that you were saying, like they're they're 391 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: not popular uprisings. It's a small elite group that decided 392 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: to do it, usually the higher ups in the military, 393 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: and h they can be blood That's where it can 394 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: just be like you're not in charge any longer you're 395 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: out of the country. Stay out of the country. We're 396 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: putting you in exile. They can be bloody, especially if 397 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: the person who's being deposed has a lot of loyalty 398 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: in the military as well. Then it can turn pretty 399 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: pretty bad. Yeah, But I get the feeling that a 400 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: lot of times the coup isn't attempted unless they feel 401 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 1: like they have the support to pull it. Off. Well, 402 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: I mean, look at Turkey. They the people who tried 403 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: that coup, like it's a few months, but um, I 404 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: don't know what happened to them. I think air Tuan 405 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 1: said like the people were going to be punished but 406 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: not necessarily executed, But I don't know if that's true 407 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: or not. And that's another thing that can make a 408 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: coup bloody is that it can fail and then the 409 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: people who are carrying out the coup get executed, or 410 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: it can succeed, and sometimes, just for good measure, the 411 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: people carrying out the coup execute the former president, which 412 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: was the case in Peru with Pinochet. I'm sorry Chili 413 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: where Pinochet took over because apparently the parliament asked the 414 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: military to get rid of the old guy SALVADORI and 415 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: A and they said, all right, fine, we'll do it, 416 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: and then they executed A and A. Yeah, and aku 417 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 1: doesn't always mean a dictator comes right in either. Sometimes 418 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: a ku can just be temporary until they can elect 419 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: a new national leader. But it's just basically, uh, just 420 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,479 Speaker 1: a very small overthrowing of the current government. That's all. 421 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: Do you want to take another break, Yeah, let's do it, okay. 422 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: Sk alright, we're back. What's agenda? Oh, it's related to 423 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: the Jacama um route Hima. No, that's not true at all. 424 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: Uh And I didn't really know this, but I've heard 425 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: a military junta. Wait, you know it's junta? Is it really? Yeah, 426 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: that's how I was making that joke. Okay, I wasn't 427 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: sure because I I called Hikama Jacamaya. Are you sure 428 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: it's not Jakoma? You sure it's not Jenta, Yes, it is. 429 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: It's a military junta. So the junta is a is 430 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: almost like a dictatorship by committee. And you find these 431 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: lat in Latin America, and it's a committee of military 432 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: leaders who essentially act like a dictator right there. It's 433 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: instead of one leader, maybe three four top ranking military usually. 434 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: Um there's a If you like Fiji brand water, you're 435 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: supporting a military junta when you buy that. As of 436 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: two thousand and six, the military rose up in Fiji 437 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: and overthrew the government and now military hunta runs the 438 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: show there. Yeah, that's a bad scene over there. Yeah. 439 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: Thailand apparently had a um A coup that same year. 440 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,239 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, they there. They followed the 441 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: typical coup where the president left the country. If I 442 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: were a president and I run shaky ground anywhere, I'd 443 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: be like, I'm sitting right here, you're not scarface. You 444 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: would just be like in your office with submachine guns right. Well, 445 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: probably not the Mountain of Cocaine, although I could, because 446 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: I'd be a dictator. No one could say anything. Um. 447 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: But there's one other thing that's really important too. Not 448 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: only would I not leave the country, I wouldn't even 449 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: leave the presidential palace because that's like one of the 450 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: number one things you do in a coup is you 451 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: secure the presidential palace, secure the prisons, secure the infrastructure, 452 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: secure like the local media, and um, as long as 453 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: the president's there. For some reason, physically it makes it 454 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: exponentially harder. I don't know why. But couldn't if you 455 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: were the military. Couldn't you just go up to the 456 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,719 Speaker 1: president and be like, you're not president anymore? And they 457 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: could say, yes I am. You say no, you're not. 458 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: We have the guns. Get out of the military the 459 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: presidential palace. Yeah, it's very passive aggressive to just like 460 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: change change the dead volts is it really is? Say sorry, 461 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: I can't get to your bedroom anymore. But Thailand had 462 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: the same thing, but but there junta was the the 463 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: coup carried out by the junta was um apparently popularly supported. Yeah, 464 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: it was the president who's like, I vote in ay, 465 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: everybody else said yea. So sometimes when there's a dictatorship, 466 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 1: they actually give the appearance that they might hold elections 467 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: oh yeah, um, when in fact it's just sort of 468 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: a farce. That's a big deal though, actually, because I 469 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: mean democracy or liberal democracies are viewed as so legitimate 470 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: that dictators will hold like like farcical elections pageantry basically 471 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: to make it seem like the the populace is all forum, 472 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: but the the elections will be like do you want 473 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: to keep the leader? No, one's running against the leader. 474 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: But do you want to keep the leader? Yes? No, 475 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: Please write your address down and include a picture of 476 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: your most beloved person or in the case of Saudi 477 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: Arabia King Abdullah bin abdul Aziz al Sad. That's a mouthful. Uh. 478 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: He said. You know what, We're gonna have elections for 479 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: the first time since the sixties here in two thousand five. Uh. 480 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: And you can choose your local civic leaders and your 481 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: local councils. Um but women can't vote, Like technically they can, 482 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: but you don't have the idea to vote because you're 483 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: a woman, so you can't vote. And a man can't 484 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: register your register you to vote because you're a woman, 485 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: and there just aren't enough women poll workers to register you, 486 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: so you also can't vote. So it's classic voter disenfranchisement 487 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: saying you don't have I D, so you can't vote, 488 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: so you might as well not be allowed to vote. 489 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: So since there's a whole an entire gender that's excluded 490 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: from the vote, it's not a democratic vote. That's a 491 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: little less farcical than say, you know one where it's 492 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: like where you have no opposition. Yeah. Yeah, And I 493 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: found this article. It's hilarious. It's called um Dictatorships. It 494 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: was on like kids net in Australia, an Australian website, 495 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: and like at the top there's like Teddy Bears and 496 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: a son and rainbow and blue skies and then in 497 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: the text that says dictator and it's all about dictators 498 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: It's just kind of a weird juxtaposition. They had misspellings 499 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: in it too, which is weird. Yeah, but it made 500 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: some pretty good points. If I were a kid. If 501 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: I had kids, I would be like, you read this website. 502 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: They know what they're talking about. Read it every day, 503 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: every day. Just read the dictator entry. That's it. But 504 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: they mentioned although, yeah, they got something horribly wrong. They 505 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: mentioned Dictator Charles King of Liberia. I think they mean 506 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: Charles Taylor. Oh yeah, uh who um claimed to have 507 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: won by such a landslide that apparently it was like 508 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: fift larger than the actual total electorate of his entire country. Mhm. 509 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: But then I've also seen that he's done um elections 510 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: that were watched by outside pole watchers, and um that 511 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: they just they said that, no, this is a legitimate election. Interesting. Well, 512 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: we talked a little bit about them the dictatorship ending 513 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: badly or sadly. UM. A lot of times it is 514 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: just a simple matter of time catching up to somebody, 515 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: um and they get sick and die. Lennon suffered strokes, 516 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: Stalin suffered a stroke, Castro got really sick. Uh. You know, 517 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: all the power and money and influence in the world 518 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: is not going to save you in the end, my friend, 519 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: Mr dictatory paranoia will save you and keep you alive. 520 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: It's always just kind of pitiful though, I don't know. 521 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,479 Speaker 1: I disagree. Oh really, yeah, I think it's worth dancing 522 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: on their graves over Oh no, no, no, I don't 523 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: mean I mean pitiful for them. It's just they never 524 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: it seems like they always go out with a whimper. Yeah, 525 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: some go out with machine gun fire though. Yeah. It 526 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: just it doesn't say the salad days forever. No, it's true. 527 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: I think the messages that's no way to rule the people. 528 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: I hope we've gotten that across. You know, I don't 529 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: know how many dictators listened to our podcast, but I 530 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: hope that, if any do, we've really given them some 531 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: some pause to think about what they're doing with their lives. 532 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: Should we read a few of these uh weird things 533 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: done by dictators and we should say it's widely believed 534 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: that dictatorships are on the decline worldwide, where they're like 535 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: seventy of them now, the most I saw was twenty four, right, yeah. Uh. 536 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: And the reason why it again, they think liberal democracy 537 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: is like basically changing the game. But there was a 538 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: big influx after the the Cold War ended, where um, 539 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: the a lot of no, I'm sorry, the Cold War began. 540 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: There was a big influx because a lot of the 541 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: old colonial powers that had colonies and say, like Africa 542 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: and Asia suddenly said World War two is over, We're 543 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: getting out of the imperialism game. Good luck. And that 544 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: those power vacuums allowed a lot of dictatorships to to 545 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: um grow, and then the the polarization of the Cold 546 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: War allowed them to thrive because a dictator could say, hey, 547 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: I'm strategically necessary United States. Don't you like me? Don't 548 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: you want to look the other way on all of 549 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: my human rights atrocities? And then someone else would say 550 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: the same thing. That the USSR and the superpowers would 551 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: prop up these dictators throughout the world. When the Cold 552 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: War ended, that actually led to a huge and almost 553 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: immediate decline in dictatorships around the world. Yeah, so they're 554 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: they're hopefully going the way of the dinosaur. But we'll see. 555 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: What was that last article you sent, the one it 556 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: made a really good point about the United States could 557 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: learn a little bit about these dictatorships and how they work. 558 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: Not to be like that, but to learn that you 559 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: can't not for pointers and not for pointers, but for 560 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: pointers and maybe not necessarily saying hey, we can just 561 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: go into a country that's been run a certain way 562 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: for hundreds, if not thousands of years, and just say 563 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: do it all different now. Yeah, here, here's here's a 564 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: book on liberal democracies, Read it and do it. Yeah, 565 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: And that we might have a more successful approach to 566 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: foreign policy if there was a little bit more understanding 567 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: on how these systems worked. Yeah, And that a lot 568 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 1: of these, uh, these dictatorships are not totalitarian but autocratic, 569 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: which makes them inherently weaker. But if we threaten them, 570 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: if we're belligerent to them, we give those people a 571 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: reason to be afraid and to line up behind their leader. 572 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: So when we actually threaten other countries that are that 573 00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: are autocratic, we we're all we're due ing is making 574 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: the leader more powerful, right, Whereas if we treat him 575 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: like as kind of a a week a week leader 576 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: of a weak state that that is run in a 577 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: way that suggests that the people aren't really behind it, 578 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: but they have to be run with an iron fist, 579 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: then that that person is probably gonna eventually get deposed. 580 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: It's pretty interesting. It was an interesting article. It was 581 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: in Reason magazine, I think um it was written by 582 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,240 Speaker 1: John Basil utly, and if that guy is not British 583 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: no idea. Who is alright, So we promised a few 584 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: weird things. Um, where did you find this one? Odie? 585 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 1: Strange things done by evil dictators Kim Jong Ill those 586 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: dude in South Korea named Shin sang Uh and he 587 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: was known as the orson Wells of South Korea and 588 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: he was kidnapped and brought to North Korea to basically, Uh, 589 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: Kim Jong Ill was like, you know, we show the 590 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: world that we are creative artists, like start making movies, right, 591 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: we've kidnapped you and brought you here. Make good movies. 592 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: In fact, remake Godzilla because we just need our own Godzilla. 593 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: It's basically what the CIA did with Jackson Pollock in 594 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: the early fifties. But Jackson Pollock wasn't aware that he 595 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: was being propped up because he was drunk. Yeah, so 596 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: they did remake Godzilla a sort of in a movie 597 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: called poul Gas Sorry, and um, I looked it up 598 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,280 Speaker 1: and he basically looks like Godzilla with like minotaur horns 599 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: right coming out in the side. Not the best. What 600 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: else This Beatles story was kind of nuts. Yeah, the 601 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: marcos Is, remember Amelda Marcos and Oliver Shoes. Yeah, who 602 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: can forget Ferdinand and Emelda Marcos. They ruled the Philippines 603 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: for a while and apparently they loved the Beatles back 604 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: in the sixties, and so they invited the Beatles to 605 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: the Philippines to play a couple of shows on their 606 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: world tour. And when the Beatles got there, the military 607 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: met them at the airport and said, hey, before you 608 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: go to your hotel, you're scheduled for a lunch, private 609 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: lunch with the president it and the first Lady. And 610 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 1: the Beatles were like, look mate, we're really tired. We're 611 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: gonna just go to the hotel and crash because we've 612 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: got two shows tonight. And uh they did not go 613 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: over very well. Yeah, they were acting through their manager 614 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: of course, Brian Epstein, and supposedly the story isn't so 615 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: much that, but he said that they don't they don't 616 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: accept these formal like state invitations really as a rule. 617 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: Either way, they didn't go and uh mL Demarcos got 618 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: on TV and started talking about it. Brian Epstein tried 619 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 1: to apologize on TV and they blacked him out and 620 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: people got really upset. The police, basically their private police 621 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 1: escort was removed and the Beatles were on their own, 622 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: which was in the nineties or four. When you're the Beatles, 623 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: isn't not a good place, especially in the Philippines to 624 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: find yourself. Yeah, they basically had to escape to the 625 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 1: airport and just run out to the plane and head off. Yeah, 626 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,720 Speaker 1: and one of their dudes was like beaten really badly 627 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 1: and Brian Epstein was kept from getting on the plane 628 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: and had to like basically shaken down to pay them 629 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,280 Speaker 1: back money from the concert to get on the plane. 630 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:13,879 Speaker 1: And then later on Mr Mr Lennon give piece a chance, 631 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 1: John Lynn and said, yeah, if we go back to 632 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 1: the Philippines, it's gonna be with an H bomb. Did 633 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,399 Speaker 1: he really say that? Yeah, he said he won't even 634 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: fly over it. So they did not have a good 635 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: experience here. Who's next? I think that e D I 636 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: mean one was kind of interesting. That sounds so eaty, 637 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: I mean he uh. He declared himself President for Life 638 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 1: p f L and he um. He said, you know what, 639 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this in high style. I'm gonna get 640 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: four white men to carry me around in a chair 641 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: to celebrate being President for life. And he called it 642 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: the white Man's Burden, And everybody loved it he was 643 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 1: an odd duck. Yeah, if you if you look up 644 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 1: white Man's and I mean and google images, there's a 645 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 1: couple of really great pictures of these kind of blonde 646 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 1: white men in suits carrying around this giant you ugandan 647 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:14,959 Speaker 1: man and chair. Have you ever read the Bukowski book 648 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: that was the it was the basis for Barfly. Yeah, 649 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 1: which one was at Hollywood? I think it's what it 650 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,919 Speaker 1: was called. I read Hollywood? Was that the one? Yeah? 651 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: He talks about watching a documentary about e. D I 652 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,320 Speaker 1: mean and how he um I mean, didn't have uh 653 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: the money for an air force, but he had pilots 654 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: that really wanted to fly. So like in the documentary, 655 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: they're showing these pilots running down a runway and then 656 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: jumping and then going back to the to the end 657 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: of the line and and just doing this over and 658 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: over again to practice flying even though they didn't have planes. 659 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: That movie was good. The Forest Whitaker movie, Yeah, The 660 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: Last King of Scotland. Yeah, great movie where James mckel boy. 661 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: You know, you can stay in Charles Bokowski's house that 662 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: he grew up in an airbnb now been remodeled. No, 663 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: he wouldn't like that, but no, he would hate the 664 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 1: whole thing. Sure, how about Kadafi will end with him? So, momar, 665 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: Kadafi loved women apparently, did you know that about him? 666 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:22,240 Speaker 1: He loved women, and he actually surrounded himself with female 667 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 1: bodyguards who he very graciously allowed to wear makeup and 668 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: high heels while they were protecting him and the In 669 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: the West, these women were called the Amazonian Guard. This 670 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 1: is just off the rails at this point. Uh and 671 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: this no, k the whole Amazonian Guard, the whole thing. 672 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 1: So um. The Kadafi actually had some sort of legitimate 673 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: thinking behind it. He thought that an assassin would have 674 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 1: trouble shooting a woman, so he surrounded himself with female 675 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: bodyguards who were also trained to kill. But they weren't 676 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,240 Speaker 1: like the four but more makeup and lipstick. Yeah. Oh, actually, 677 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: can we mention the hitler thing because is this true? 678 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, I walked past it. Sounds like urban legend, 679 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 1: but supposedly hitler Um came up with a synthetic blow 680 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:22,280 Speaker 1: up doll to um comfort soldiers, and it was referred 681 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,280 Speaker 1: to as a synthetic comforter Yep. Blonde hair, blue eyes, 682 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 1: could fit in a backpack and they only made about 683 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: fifty of them because the soldiers were like, I'm not 684 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 1: carrying that thing around. What are you crazy? And he went, 685 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 1: in fact, I am. You'll see waka waka uh. If 686 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 1: you want to know more about dictators, you can type 687 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 1: that word into uh the search bar how stuff works 688 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: dot com since they said search parts. Time for listener. 689 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 1: Now a quick correction beforehand, because this has to do 690 00:41:55,160 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 1: with bottle feeding kittens. But in our feeding baby these episodes, 691 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 1: which by the way, thanks for all the support on those, 692 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 1: which really made us feel good to know we did 693 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 1: a pretty good job there. But I erroneously many times 694 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: said pump and dump as like, you know, pump breast 695 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,479 Speaker 1: milk and dump it in the bottle to use. Oh yeah, 696 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: pump pup on it. Well, I just I think I've 697 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,720 Speaker 1: kind of threw that term around as just the general 698 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: term for breast pumping. But dumping is dumping it down 699 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: the drain for one reason another like you maybe have 700 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: had some alcohol or dumping it straight to hell. Yeah, 701 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, pump and dump. It sort of just kind 702 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 1: of went wild there. That's okay, Chuck. I did notice 703 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 1: a couple of people saying that, but I didn't get 704 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 1: what they were saying. I was wrong. Huh, all right, 705 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: so it feels weird. I promised the story about bottle 706 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 1: feeding kittens. Which have you ever done that? A little 707 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,720 Speaker 1: baby animal that you gotta care for at that young age, 708 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 1: Pretty darn cute, very powerful feeling. It's very stressful. It 709 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:04,799 Speaker 1: is stressful. Hey, guys. When I was a kid, you're like, 710 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 1: you want this bottle or not? Breakfast? When I was 711 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,720 Speaker 1: a kid, my older sister had a habit of rescuing 712 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 1: animals that became family pets. Um She rescued a pair 713 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 1: of ferrets from drug abuse quote quote drug abuse quote 714 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 1: when the ferrets were being abused with drugs or themselves 715 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 1: active users. I still don't know. That's a weird thing 716 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: to say. Yeah, this is a weird email. The family 717 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: ended up stuck with those smelly little weasels for years. 718 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: What really I wanted to talk about? That was much 719 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,439 Speaker 1: more mundane. One day we rescued a random straight kitten 720 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: from our gutter. It's beautiful little thing, fluffy and snowy, white, 721 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: practically newborn, too young to lap milk. She became a 722 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 1: family project of sorts. Throughout the day, almost all the 723 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 1: family members would take turns cradling the little kitten. Feeding 724 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: her with a dropper was pretty special. It was maybe 725 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 1: nine at the time, but gladly took time away from 726 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 1: playing Zelda to feed the kitten playing Zelda. I forget it. 727 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,720 Speaker 1: Here's the kicker. Though. As much as pure love uh 728 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: that we pumped into that little kitten, that cat ended 729 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 1: up being one of the most purely mean and different 730 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: cats we ever had. Sounds about right. She grew up 731 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,760 Speaker 1: to be beyond ungrateful. She came and when as she pleased, 732 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 1: and was prone to swipe at you if it's if 733 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 1: you tried to bet her. She hung around for the food, 734 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: but after a few years she just disappeared entirely. It 735 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,399 Speaker 1: sounds like the cat was on drug abuse too. Most 736 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: of our cats were sweet and true. Maybe the point 737 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 1: is there just some bad seats out there. That is 738 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 1: from chrisps. The ferrets ended up living for years and years. 739 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: That was a mysterious email. In a lot of ways, 740 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 1: It's like a it's like a David Lynch email. Huh 741 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,839 Speaker 1: uh thanks a lot, Chris, with a K I imagine no, okay, uh, 742 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 1: thanks a lot, Chris. We appreciate that and uh If 743 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,319 Speaker 1: you out there want to get in touch with us, 744 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,320 Speaker 1: like Chris did, you can tweet to us at s 745 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,800 Speaker 1: y s K podcast. You can join us on Facebook, 746 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,919 Speaker 1: dot com, slash stuff you Should Know. You can send 747 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,799 Speaker 1: us an email to stuff Podcast. 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