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Speaker 2: Speaking of forgetting to do stuff or forgetting things in general,
Speaker 2: I forgot my valet ticket at bna Ah. You would
Speaker 2: have thought it was Fort Knox and and a lot
Speaker 2: of people here for RFK obviously, but you're gonna hear it.
Speaker 2: This is a bit of a therapy session as well
Speaker 2: for me because last couple of days do we've been
Speaker 2: we flew to Detroit. From Detroit, flew to Houston. From Houston,
Speaker 2: flew back to Nashville's you know, up late, up early
Speaker 2: type of things, burning the candle up, both ends in
Speaker 2: the sense of not getting a whole lot of sleep.
Speaker 2: So we are sitting in Houston, so ready to be home.
Speaker 5: So excited, so exciting. Like you said, we're landing every
Speaker 5: night at probably midnight in the hotel, waking up early.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll just say six, even though it's probably like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we got four thirty before, right around the time, and
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 5: I always wake up before to just to compete with
Speaker 5: Jocko Willie.
Speaker 2: Yeah I have to, Yeah, I have to. Someone's got
Speaker 2: to take that man down. You're the man to do it.
Speaker 2: So you can imagine I'm a little bit tired at
Speaker 2: this point. I get to the BNA, which is the
Speaker 2: Nashville Airport valets, and this guy sitting in front of me,
Speaker 2: I say, hey, listen, I lost my ticket, But in
Speaker 2: my head, I've lost my ticket a dozen times. It's
Speaker 2: not been a big deal ever.
Speaker 5: Oh really, no, I've done it before and I will
Speaker 5: never do it again.
Speaker 2: Okay, because that must have been what happened to me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because I'm talking to a lady. She's like, hey, unless
Speaker 2: like your the registration matches your address or the name
Speaker 2: on it where we're not gonna be able to give
Speaker 2: you the vehicle. And I'm like, all good, bring it up.
Speaker 2: I have the registration. It's under one of my LLCs,
Speaker 2: but I have the same address on it. It should be
Speaker 2: no problem. She was fine. The guy behind her, who
Speaker 2: thought he was literally the king of all valets to
Speaker 2: ever rule valets, goes, we're not giving you the vehicle.
Speaker 2: He allows me to go in the vehicle. I pull
Speaker 2: out a sign that you go get my cars my
Speaker 2: kids for pickup, says Lawan. On it. My card, says Lawan.
Speaker 2: My license says Lawan. I pull out the registration same
Speaker 2: address as my my driver's license, and he's just not
Speaker 2: having it.
Speaker 5: And I to the point, what do you mean he's
Speaker 5: not having one?
Speaker 2: He will not let me take the vehicle.
Speaker 5: Why would he not be like, okay, this all makes sense.
Speaker 2: You you you will get him on the bus and
Speaker 2: ask him, okay, because I go, I go, I go, Bro.
Speaker 2: I literally I have the app on my phone. It's
Speaker 2: a test. That's my wife's car. I can just watch.
Speaker 2: I turned the horn on in the horn honk.
Speaker 5: And what is his response.
Speaker 2: He's like, sorry, unless you have unless your name on
Speaker 2: the registration is the same. I was like, my name
Speaker 2: is not No Bad Days. What do you mean it's
Speaker 2: no one's name is No Bad Days. And he like
Speaker 2: he's he's giving me a hard time, blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: And I go, bro, are you fucking serious that that loud?
Speaker 6: Bro?
Speaker 2: Are you fucking serious?
Speaker 5: It's yes, and listen, it's not like a tailor move,
Speaker 5: like you can tell when he's mad, but it's never direct.
Speaker 5: Are you fucking serious?
Speaker 2: And especially in public? And the thing too, And dude,
Speaker 2: there are two or three people back there being like
Speaker 2: tapping him and being like, hey, that's Taylor, Like he
Speaker 2: played for the Titans and he's got a podcast bust
Speaker 2: with the boys. Like there's a couple of guys in
Speaker 2: the back that work for him that are kind of
Speaker 2: like being for the boy. But I'm not the only
Speaker 2: thing that I think in my head is like police
Speaker 2: videos when they're like I play for so and so,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm not doing that.
Speaker 5: I'm not.
Speaker 2: Buddy ends up calling the police.
Speaker 5: Did you show him the Wikipedia?
Speaker 4: What did you show me your Wikipedia?
Speaker 2: Showing the Wikipedia? I learned my lesson with that. But
Speaker 2: gotta say the ticket.
Speaker 1: Yeah that.
Speaker 2: He calls the police and I'm here for thirty minutes.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna face some of my wife. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 2: he won't just let me go. And I told him.
Speaker 2: I was like, what if I just get in my
Speaker 2: car and leave. He goes, we'll impound the car. Is like,
Speaker 2: I'll just get in the car and leave then, Like
Speaker 2: I have the app. He's like, we won't give you
Speaker 2: the keys. Like I have the app. He looks at
Speaker 2: his boy and.
Speaker 5: It's a Tesla.
Speaker 2: Bro, I don't need the key. He looks at his
Speaker 2: boy and goes park it. His boy scurries out the
Speaker 2: door and goes in parks the car pulls it and
Speaker 2: you see him like you know how, It's like there's lanes.
Speaker 5: He goes the farthest lane away and I see the
Speaker 5: cars like a damn near half a mile at this point,
Speaker 5: it is so far away.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, bro, I am fuming. His manager comes down,
Speaker 2: and his manager and him were aligned on hating me.
Speaker 2: It was some small little girl and she was I
Speaker 2: was like, hey, how you doing, and she just gave
Speaker 2: me like that the nod, no smile, no facial expression.
Speaker 2: We're taking your big ass. Yeah, I'm thinking, what are
Speaker 2: we doing? And the cop pulls up, Cot pulls up,
Speaker 2: opens the door, looks at me and just smiles and
Speaker 2: shrugs his shoulders. He's like, hey for the boys, and
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, can you let's go? And I'm
Speaker 2: like telling him, like, bro, I am pretty upset right now,
Speaker 2: but like I just want to say, we'll get you
Speaker 2: out of here. Don't worry. They take fifteen more minutes
Speaker 2: just to get the vehicle.
Speaker 4: Oh dude, that is so.
Speaker 2: And I'm my head. I'm like, I'm not tipping nothing.
Speaker 2: But this little dude went back and forth like four times.
Speaker 2: So I threw him a little cash. I handed him
Speaker 2: a little cash, but I didn't want to make sure
Speaker 2: it wasn't on the car because I don't know if
Speaker 2: they're dipping those tips up. I want him specifically to
Speaker 2: have that money.
Speaker 5: That's what I was going to ask you about. Like
Speaker 5: the lady. They had two. They had two of them going.
Speaker 5: So if you're walking this way, not the lady here,
Speaker 5: but going around the corner and getting that window.
Speaker 2: Yeah I was. I was first window.
Speaker 5: Gotch.
Speaker 2: I didn't take the extra three steps.
Speaker 5: I went extra three steps because somebody was in line.
Speaker 5: But she went to they went to get the truck
Speaker 5: and and I don't think I said anything. That's why
Speaker 5: I feel like I was. That's why I feel like
Speaker 5: I got hustled. And I was curious what happened with you?
Speaker 5: But she goes, uh, you said you want to tip ten?
Speaker 5: And so I just said yes. And then I was like,
Speaker 5: I think she just fucking got me.
Speaker 2: I would Karen, I really love and I legit I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't hit the classic phrase, I want to talk
Speaker 2: to your manager and any think. But here's what buddy did.
Speaker 2: He started talking to me like he had he had
Speaker 2: an accent on him, but he was like pronunciating it
Speaker 2: was words well, very easy and clear. As soon as
Speaker 2: there was a confrontation, all of a sudden he had
Speaker 2: a waste stronger accent and he would just repeat things.
Speaker 2: He was starting to play me like I didn't I
Speaker 2: already heard you talking good English brother, like, let's hey, dude.
Speaker 5: It maybe it.
Speaker 2: I was so mad, literally was at being in the
Speaker 2: Bna Valley area for forty five minutes maybe an hour.
Speaker 5: That's tough, man, you went through that, and then what happened.
Speaker 2: I got the car and drove off your phone?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: So when I hit him with though, are you fucking serious?
Speaker 2: I like kind of put my hands out, oh like that,
Speaker 2: and the phone was on that little counter and it
Speaker 2: hit I got this phone a week ago.
Speaker 5: A week ago, Oh my goodness, nothing, And.
Speaker 2: That sent me over the edge because I went to
Speaker 2: go pick it up and I thought it was gonna
Speaker 2: be fine. I turned it over and I saw it
Speaker 2: and that sent me into a new atmosphere of mad.
Speaker 2: But that's where I just ended up getting quiet because
Speaker 2: I was mad, dude.
Speaker 5: Because it's a great mix of that's everybody else's fault
Speaker 5: that just happened, but also that's my.
Speaker 2: Fault in your mind that at the moment, it's everyone's faults.
Speaker 2: So as getting the car and drive off, you're like,
Speaker 2: you're an idiot. You just to be aggressive with your
Speaker 2: arm movement. But the cop was a homie dude, shout
Speaker 2: out the cops. Dude, shout the cops. If you're listening.
Speaker 6: She got to believe that's the mentalist would get out
Speaker 6: of that situation to check your pocket the registrations there,
Speaker 6: no question, no question.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's I really wanted to tell that story
Speaker 2: because it was it was heavy on my heart.
Speaker 5: But hey, a great week overall, great great week.
Speaker 2: We had.
Speaker 5: Yeah, O's came out, We had the Beer Games. All
Speaker 5: three episodes of the Beer Games are out.
Speaker 2: And if you're a person that is watching RFK for
Speaker 2: the politics, politics, beer games, we do it all here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess yeah, if you are unaware of what
Speaker 5: we were talking about, we name change was the Beer Olympics.
Speaker 5: We had the change to the Beer Games. Obviously copyright
Speaker 5: and everything else going on, but we have three episodes
Speaker 5: of the Beer Games. Championships of the World. It took
Speaker 5: place in Taylor one our boys backyard. Yes we are
Speaker 5: the champions. Yes we won the whole thing. There were
Speaker 5: sixteen teams we took on the trophy, but those are
Speaker 5: out on our YouTube channel as well. RFK. We had
Speaker 5: a massive opportunity to come up to interview RFK. He
Speaker 5: came on the bus Secret Services coming in days in advance,
Speaker 5: dogs coming in and snipers on the river, snipers on
Speaker 5: the roof. Way better set up than what Trump hadded
Speaker 5: his rally.
Speaker 2: And yeah, if you're if you're coming on this show
Speaker 2: to listen to like politics and us.
Speaker 5: Go back and forth. He came to the right place,
Speaker 5: he came to the wrong place. We asked a lot
Speaker 5: of political questions.
Speaker 2: We start off, We started off talking about that stuff, but.
Speaker 5: Really we even joked on it so that I know
Speaker 5: you guys don't like to talk politics and going off
Speaker 5: of our political questions.
Speaker 2: Yeah we said that, but yes, then he goes we
Speaker 2: won't talk about politics then. But it was truly like
Speaker 2: a story time. It was learning about the Kennedy family,
Speaker 2: him talking about his uncle being on an island and
Speaker 2: then writing on a coconut coordinates and that's how he
Speaker 2: got saved. And then once he was his inaugeration was
Speaker 2: taking place. He invited those guys, but they didn't represent
Speaker 2: that country well enough, so they sent two other guys. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was It was a cool. It was just a
Speaker 2: really an amazing podcast, one that I really really enjoyed.
Speaker 5: He's an incredible storyteller, he really is. He's very good
Speaker 5: at starting on one topic, then you completely end up
Speaker 5: somebody somewhere else. I did ask him what he thought
Speaker 5: about the Washington commander's name change, so we will die.
Speaker 2: I've got to handle that really well too. Yeah, like
Speaker 2: a true politician. Yeah, because you know what he really wants.
Speaker 5: I think you can figure out that. You know, he
Speaker 5: talked about empathizing with that community and everything else, but
Speaker 5: he was said that, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, big vague. People don't want to hear us
Speaker 2: him say yeah, but yeah, that's what we got today.
Speaker 5: Did you see the opening ceremony with the Olympics.
Speaker 2: I saw a couple of clips and people are pretty upset,
Speaker 2: and I saw it. There was a smurf and a dish.
Speaker 2: But we were at the airport, so I really didn't
Speaker 2: hear the evolut and I didn't. Just had to go
Speaker 2: look a.
Speaker 5: Lot of a lot of Satanic rituals. Some would say,
Speaker 5: there's just there's this lady on fire. She's like holding
Speaker 5: her head, she's headless.
Speaker 2: There's this there's this.
Speaker 5: Pale horse trotting running across with death on its back.
Speaker 5: The word death, Well, it's like a it's like a
Speaker 5: call to there's like a there's a spot in the
Speaker 5: Bible and revelations, right, a pale horse with death, with
Speaker 5: death riding on its back or from behind or whatever
Speaker 5: it is, and they're kind of doing that. They also
Speaker 5: mimic the Last They also mess with the Last Supper. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and it's like it's like drag queens, and I mean
Speaker 5: some the first person they show doesn't necessarily represent the Olympics,
Speaker 5: so this is talking about peak athleticism. And you know,
Speaker 5: and the guy that guy will show them, will show
Speaker 5: the officials, so I have to verbally get aggressive.
Speaker 6: The guy that put it on is in charge of
Speaker 6: organizing the whole opening ceremony. He's Jewish, which adds a
Speaker 6: whole other layer to the underlyings going on.
Speaker 2: Love a tinfoil hat day.
Speaker 5: This is a prime tinfoil hat ceremony. Like this is
Speaker 5: where something like that starts gets the crowd going.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't want to talk it on my ass.
Speaker 2: But when the Romans they started the Olympics, correct, Greeks,
Speaker 2: excuse me, thank you Sherman. Wow, that's a tough l
Speaker 2: but they had they had like very crazy opening ceremonies
Speaker 2: even then, right, so maybe maybe this is them just
Speaker 2: kind of going back to their roots in a lot
Speaker 2: of ways, even though this is in France.
Speaker 5: On that side, we'll be on this side. I'm just
Speaker 5: playing Devil's keep Taylor over the next few years.
Speaker 2: Well, if she was lady in the middle here supposed
Speaker 2: to be Jesus, I don't know. I mean she's in
Speaker 2: the spot. Yeah, I guess so she's in the spot.
Speaker 5: Just a very interesting ceremony. I probably won't watch it
Speaker 5: one event now.
Speaker 2: Except swimming, except for swimming, and.
Speaker 6: And Dominican verse, Brazil beat follow balls.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, the things Team USA basketball. I will watch swimming.
Speaker 5: I watched swimming for the people out there hating that
Speaker 5: thinks that. I just think swimming.
Speaker 1: Naked a little known fact. Every event.
Speaker 2: Bring it back, Bring it back, dude, that's a good tradition.
Speaker 3: The French would be the ones to bring that back.
Speaker 2: Photo Ho's on Dorsey Flex bad angles? Yeah, no power
Speaker 2: angles that you see that.
Speaker 5: I hope so badly that South Park, Oh.
Speaker 2: South Park does an amazing job.
Speaker 5: Primetime spot.
Speaker 2: They do a great job.
Speaker 5: Fine bomb, dude, yeah, Finny Bomb.
Speaker 2: What's the deal? He was coming at Michigan last year?
Speaker 2: Now he said aside, did he come at Michigan last year?
Speaker 2: He called him like a second tier team, and the
Speaker 2: SEC is essentially he's he seems like he.
Speaker 5: Was wrong about that too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and what what was the situation with you?
Speaker 5: He was talking about, don't worry about the big boys
Speaker 5: at the top. You act like you you're speaking like
Speaker 5: you said at the table with Ohio State and Georgia.
Speaker 5: You do not. Then he took a personal shot at
Speaker 5: Matt Ruhle's NFL coaching coaching years with the Panthers, a
Speaker 5: personal shot.
Speaker 2: Personal.
Speaker 5: In my opinion, there was no there was it was
Speaker 5: unnecessary to go after after the boy coach rule and
Speaker 5: bring that up. Yeah, I get the funks. Listen, Finny
Speaker 5: Bomb he's playing. He's playing a heady, heady play right there.
Speaker 5: Because you know that that kind of take galvanizes the
Speaker 5: Nebraska fan base. Yeah, Like you talk about Nebraska, you're
Speaker 5: gonna hey, that's good. That's like talking about the Cowboys
Speaker 5: in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. I mean, regardless of the state of
Speaker 2: the Nebraska football program and what they're in right now,
Speaker 2: the fan base does go extremely hard.
Speaker 5: Right. We win every every social media poll out there.
Speaker 5: We're the national champions of they have everywhere we go.
Speaker 2: Bones are being thrown black shirts all that talk go
Speaker 2: big Red. Yeah, they really rolled deep.
Speaker 5: And you just you you witnessed somebody like Finneybaum doing that.
Speaker 5: And he's just like, this is a dying gazelle in
Speaker 5: the Safari, talking like he's some lion, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean.
Speaker 2: No, but go ahead and the lib right a little more.
Speaker 2: You're saying the nebrask Corners was gonna eat him alive.
Speaker 5: No, I'm saying Paul Finneybaum himself.
Speaker 2: In this game, he's a gazelle.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a dying gazelle in the Safari. Oh, pretending
Speaker 5: to speak for the lions. You know what I mean.
Speaker 5: You're not hanging out with the big boys right here
Speaker 5: close to this.
Speaker 2: He runs back and forth and he just pretends like
Speaker 2: he's a part of the crew. And really they just
Speaker 2: make him do a little tricks for him. Yes, he's
Speaker 2: the younger brother of the older brother.
Speaker 5: Exactly.
Speaker 2: That's tough. He sniegeled get his man.
Speaker 5: It looks like a javelin. I could throw twenty yards
Speaker 5: at least man before we get off of the Olympic
Speaker 5: should Hey, that could be a teer talk. Do we
Speaker 5: want a tier talk? Olympic events favorite Olympic events field events,
Speaker 5: whether it's swimming, whether it's and it could be both
Speaker 5: winter and summer. Oh you want to throw winter. Maybe
Speaker 5: we just do summer because it's the Summer Olympics.
Speaker 2: Give me two.
Speaker 5: Who's your what's your favorite winter Olympic event?
Speaker 2: Probably hockey?
Speaker 5: Hockey. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 5: That makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2: I saw Miracle, Miracle. You see that movie?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 5: If you have not, you should get should get checked
Speaker 5: on your citizenship. Yeah again, what a what a scene?
Speaker 5: Would be tough to be one of the boys.
Speaker 4: The state championship Friday night lights.
Speaker 5: Yes, I'll rip it first. I'm gonna go Tier three hurdles.
Speaker 5: Hurdles your boy took on the Golden Districts in eighth grade.
Speaker 5: I was a decent little sportsman at hurdles. I enjoy
Speaker 5: watching it.
Speaker 3: What distance?
Speaker 5: One hundred meter hurdles are one ten? It's one ten? Yeah,
Speaker 5: but the hurdles one hundred and ten meters dash not
Speaker 5: the long one. I think they do like a long
Speaker 5: one or it's like three hundred meter hurdles, possibly do
Speaker 5: Is that sound right? Okay?
Speaker 3: At high school level three hundred at professional level four hundred.
Speaker 5: Okay, thank you for that fun fact. My Tier two
Speaker 5: is gonna go to the high jump. Enjoy a good
Speaker 5: high jump. Yes, I will bring this back to me.
Speaker 5: Your boy holds the middle school record for a high
Speaker 5: jump at five at five feet eleven inches five eleven
Speaker 5: inches in eighth grade. Yes, your boy has the record.
Speaker 5: We have bunnies and bunnies. Well, what's up, Mitch. Did
Speaker 5: you do the high jump?
Speaker 1: No, but in eighth grade you're jumping six feet.
Speaker 5: I said, five to eleven is close. I didn't get six.
Speaker 2: I think five to eleven I saw somebody do at
Speaker 2: Michigan and he won. Yeah, that big ten match, boy,
Speaker 2: I promise. I think it's four to eleven.
Speaker 5: No, oh no, I'm scissor kicking four eleven. Scissor kicking.
Speaker 5: That's where you don't even have to been back, where
Speaker 5: you should jump up and clear it.
Speaker 2: I know what scissor kicking is.
Speaker 5: Okay, I just wanted to. But the people might not know.
Speaker 5: The people might not know.
Speaker 2: I'm ninety five percent sure. I was at a Michigan
Speaker 2: track and field event and it was a big ten
Speaker 2: event and somebody jumped five to eleven in one.
Speaker 5: A Michigan person, whoever number one, this must be like
Speaker 5: there are no athletes. If somebody jumping five.
Speaker 2: Eleven win, you pick that, it's not bro record.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the record, the high school record at my high
Speaker 5: school was six. The high school record in my high
Speaker 5: school's like six seven. So five to eleven is like
Speaker 5: obviously for an eighth grader bunnies, Okay, seven seven feet
Speaker 5: five inches won the Big Ten.
Speaker 2: This year this year, but you know, different athletes. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: so maybe.
Speaker 5: Maybe right, maybe he's running right now, Bro, maybe he's right.
Speaker 5: Did you run track and field in middle school?
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is bad? You could handle that.
Speaker 5: My tier one, though, you know, it could be and
Speaker 5: it could be unanimous across the board. My tier one
Speaker 5: is that hundred meters dash. I think the just watching
Speaker 5: the race for the fastest human being in the world
Speaker 5: two hundreds cool for it's cool distance, not cool at all,
Speaker 5: but claiming that you are the one, the one on bro,
Speaker 5: like imagine being Usain Bolt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fastest man in the world.
Speaker 5: In the world, and everybody ever like and that's the one.
Speaker 5: It's the one event that everybody I feel like asked about, like, hey,
Speaker 5: what days a hundred meters dash happening because I feel
Speaker 5: like you have the most viewership there. So my Tier
Speaker 5: one is the hundred meter dash, and that concludes my
Speaker 5: tier talking. Yeah, four bout one is fun.
Speaker 6: The hundred meter dash is just built into us since
Speaker 6: we're little kids. Yeah, when the minute you realize that
Speaker 6: competition exists, The first competition I think we ever participate
Speaker 6: in is a race against our friend.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're fastest.
Speaker 6: Yeah, when you're fast in the elementary school.
Speaker 5: Or King Bro. And it's funny too because it never
Speaker 5: even goes to a thought of let's run a longer distance.
Speaker 5: You're just thinking, let's race to that Yeah, let's race
Speaker 5: to that bowl. It's just an all out sprint.
Speaker 2: I loved yours because they were one word excellent, thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 5: That fires me up. Let's go hey or Mitch.
Speaker 1: Bonnies alright, locked in.
Speaker 2: Speed. Yeah. I really liked hears because they were like speed.
Speaker 2: They were all like the classics. Yeah, you hit all
Speaker 2: the classics. I was looking at the list as you
Speaker 2: were doing your tier talk. My tier three is gonna
Speaker 2: go to I'm gonna give a tip of a cap
Speaker 2: to the old lineman man it's gonna go to shot put. Sorry, noise, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: just boys in a small circle launching a ball as
Speaker 2: far as they can, grunting at the end, throwing it out.
Speaker 2: That's that's real power right there. Yeah. My Tier two
Speaker 2: is gonna go to, which I just found out on
Speaker 2: this little list, skateboarding. I didn't know skateboarding was an
Speaker 2: Olympic event. And sometimes every every time skateboarding is on TV,
Speaker 2: whether it's X Games or some other little thing, I
Speaker 2: always watch it. I don't know you think about skateboarding
Speaker 2: now than Nija Houston. That's it. And then my tier
Speaker 2: one is going to go to the huntremeter dash. That's
Speaker 2: where boys become men, right there. Yeah, that's where you
Speaker 2: that's where you separate the lines from the sheep, the
Speaker 2: fine bombs from the comptents.
Speaker 5: You guys start with the one word I don't think
Speaker 5: I have. My mind was gonna be misfits shot put skateboarding.
Speaker 5: But then you go with the one hundred meters. So
Speaker 5: now I got to think about my.
Speaker 2: Word creative, different.
Speaker 5: On brand range.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I'll take all that, boys, I'll take all
Speaker 2: that we do. We want to let this people get
Speaker 2: to get to this episode.
Speaker 5: I think, so, no, we don't, we don't need twisted.
Speaker 5: We told them our twisted question was the microphone sixty seconds.
Speaker 5: You got that one in there too. Hell yeah, Hey,
Speaker 5: you did a great job of what kind of starting
Speaker 5: the conversation with RFK.
Speaker 2: How nervous were you? I sat here, I was so nervous,
Speaker 2: and before when the Secret Service is starting to pile
Speaker 2: in and all that, I wasn't nervous. But when the
Speaker 2: door opened and he was on the phone and we
Speaker 2: kind of did the walk up and he gave us
Speaker 2: the finger real quick, he nervously got the ass. Dude, bro.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I was nervous as that was starting
Speaker 5: to like happen. I was excited to get it. I'm
Speaker 5: more so thinking like I wonder what angle or where
Speaker 5: we're going to kind of start the conversation because we're
Speaker 5: going small talk. I think we put it in a
Speaker 5: coffee order and then it kind of naturally started flowing.
Speaker 5: But I was more coming down from I was more
Speaker 5: I was most nervous standing out there when the Secret
Speaker 5: Service is entering and it felt like, oh shit, this
Speaker 5: is a this is real, Like this is a massive deal.
Speaker 2: And like the Secret service. There was one guy in
Speaker 2: the back of the bus who was watching that back door,
Speaker 2: and I went up and introduced myself to him and
Speaker 2: he was like, nice to meet you, and then stood.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they don't break care. They do except for
Speaker 5: a Doug. Oh yeah, the twenty one year old kid.
Speaker 5: But Doug. We got the no Doug a little bit. Doug.
Speaker 5: I was fired up because at the end of the
Speaker 5: first day he was here, he was more like that
Speaker 5: guy you were talking about, Doug was. But then at
Speaker 5: the end Doug was more. He was more relaxed, more
Speaker 5: laid back. Fum. I loved us. I love that, but man,
Speaker 5: I hate that we're forgetting old buddy's name. The twenty
Speaker 5: one year old Jack Jackson good Pool, Mitch good Pool,
Speaker 5: shout out the boy Jackson. And then there was a
Speaker 5: Husker fan in there too. Yeah you mind if I
Speaker 5: get a photo?
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Yeah. They had a good crew with them,
Speaker 2: a good crew, and it was. It was a great conversation.
Speaker 2: I hope everybody. I'm interested to see how this whole
Speaker 2: thing's received.
Speaker 5: It'll be mixed, you know how. It's always a mixed
Speaker 5: me ca, It's always a mixed bag. A couple of
Speaker 5: people in those comments. Yeah, but what do you do, man,
Speaker 5: We're having a conversation where we're hanging out.
Speaker 2: Can't conversations people trying to silence us, that's crazy.
Speaker 5: We asked about the middle class, Yeah we did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about the majority of the people.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Sorry. Yeah.
Speaker 5: We also tried talking sports, tried to tried oh what
Speaker 5: what was what? The big part that sucked about this,
Speaker 5: just calling a little time out of time about talking
Speaker 5: about that was when we were like, we didn't know
Speaker 5: it was going to be a captain interview, and then
Speaker 5: it was like, hey, you guys only.
Speaker 2: Have fifty times, Like, oh, there were.
Speaker 5: So many things we want to dive into a lot,
Speaker 5: more like fun questions on the back end and kind
Speaker 5: of more personal questions stuff like that. I think that
Speaker 5: that would have been the interview was awesome, but it
Speaker 5: sucked that we couldn't because he's again, he's a very
Speaker 5: good storyteller.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a lot of stories.
Speaker 5: We don't really get a lot.
Speaker 2: Of questions in there and remind me a little bit
Speaker 2: of steal.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: He kind of sat back and you listen, you're just
Speaker 2: mesmerized by the amount of stories he's telling could easily
Speaker 2: win three hours, easily win three hours, and he had
Speaker 2: juice the whole entire time. It was it was awesome
Speaker 2: to see. So won't you hit this? Will add and
Speaker 2: we'll get him on, we'll get him off.
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Speaker 1: That's the Kennedy compound. I grew up there.
Speaker 3: There's one hundred and five Kennedys who live in that town.
Speaker 1: And you know, we were we did sports all day. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I have seven kids and and they have you know,
Speaker 3: one hundred cousins in that town.
Speaker 2: It's all like on the water Mass Family.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have it.
Speaker 5: That's wild. We rolling till we have a.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we are rolling pause. Let's do that because you
Speaker 2: know how the small talk goes. Small talk is the
Speaker 2: best part of the podcast. We'll sit there, we'll become
Speaker 2: a great friends and all of a sudden, like so.
Speaker 3: Let's start and then and everybody freezes and.
Speaker 2: Then it's not organic. I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 2: So we want to call Robert mister Kennedy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't drink this at all.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, that's that's body wash.
Speaker 2: That was no. I'm Bobby, Bobby, and your son is
Speaker 2: also Bobby.
Speaker 1: A son Bobby.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's b three three. Yeah, yeah, it was
Speaker 2: actually that was put in contact with Bobby and we
Speaker 2: got on the phone and started talking and he's like,
Speaker 2: I was put in the situation where it's like you
Speaker 2: kind of just take phone calls and you're trying to
Speaker 2: figure out what you can do for each other to
Speaker 2: have a networking situation. And we started talking, was like, hey,
Speaker 2: I have this podcast called Busting with the Boys, would
Speaker 2: love to have your father on. And he's calm, cool, collected, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we can answer that question for you, no problem. The
Speaker 2: answers yes, And so I took his contact, gave it
Speaker 2: to our EP, who's Stephen and Steven's now here's actually
Speaker 2: in Italy right now, and got this whole thing done.
Speaker 2: So we really appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 1: This is this is awesome. I'm really excited to be here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my son, Bobby is married to a woman name
Speaker 3: whose maiden name was Amerlis Fox.
Speaker 1: She is now my campaign manager.
Speaker 4: Oh, and she was.
Speaker 3: She went to Oxford and then she had a theology
Speaker 3: agree degree from Georgetown and she after nine to eleven,
Speaker 3: she went in to the CIA. She was in the
Speaker 3: cland Services in the Weapons of Mass Destruction program and
Speaker 3: she was serving in China and Pakistan, all of the
Speaker 3: Mid East, and you know, God dismally. She actually was married.
Speaker 3: She had what they call a commercial cover, which is
Speaker 3: that you're pretending to operate a business, and she her
Speaker 3: business was originally their first business was an art dealer.
Speaker 3: The CIA my investment fund in cu tell gives you
Speaker 3: seed money to start the business, but then you actually
Speaker 3: have to run it. And she had a fake husband
Speaker 3: who is also a spy, with whom she had a
Speaker 3: child who is now sixteen years old.
Speaker 2: I hate to cut you off, but she had a
Speaker 2: fake husband, was.
Speaker 1: Living together.
Speaker 2: They were living yeah city, same bed. Things happened, and
Speaker 2: then they had a fake child, well child marriage.
Speaker 1: I have an or child.
Speaker 3: Her husband was involved with some really some challenging situations
Speaker 3: and has severe, severe PTSD, and so she's been dealing
Speaker 3: with that for a lot of her life. But she's
Speaker 3: spent the resident and she became Her second commercial cover
Speaker 3: was she started a tech company that became very successful
Speaker 3: and Twitter purchased it from her, and then she left
Speaker 3: the agency. She went to work for Twitter at a
Speaker 3: high level. But somebody said to me the other day,
Speaker 3: they said, Ameral is the smartest woman I've ever met,
Speaker 3: And I said to them, No, she's the smartest person
Speaker 3: you've ever met. And she has just a capacity that
Speaker 3: a mental capacity that I've never encountered in anybody. She's
Speaker 3: the extraordinary and the reason our campaign is doing so
Speaker 3: well is because of her.
Speaker 2: Now, when you're deciding to run for president, obviously there's
Speaker 2: a lot of controversy between some of your family supporting
Speaker 2: what you're doing because it hurts the Democratic Party. But
Speaker 2: when you're choosing who's going to run your campaign, was
Speaker 2: she the easy choice where a lot of people kind
Speaker 2: of come out of it.
Speaker 3: Was an impossible choice because there's you know, there was
Speaker 3: no democratic and no Republican consulting firm. Usually you got
Speaker 3: and you know, hire one of these consultantsies run you know, campaigns,
Speaker 3: like David Axelrod has a firm and that's all it does.
Speaker 3: So you go in contract with one of these firms.
Speaker 3: And there's firms that are Democratic and there's firms that
Speaker 3: a Republican and they usually don't they you know, they
Speaker 3: don't cross the line. So we looked at all the
Speaker 3: democratic firms and none of them would work for us
Speaker 3: because if they did, they get blackballed. By the party,
Speaker 3: and they also have union contracts and they'd lose all
Speaker 3: their contracts, so anybody with experience was not going to
Speaker 3: work for us. I got Dennis Concentage, who would run
Speaker 3: for president twice, to run my campaign initially, but then Amarillas,
Speaker 3: who had really really encouraged me to run from the outset,
Speaker 3: started taking larger and larger responsibilities and it became clear
Speaker 3: how talented she was and in every way, and you know,
Speaker 3: run running a campaign like this is what we have
Speaker 3: to do, where we have to get a million signature,
Speaker 3: two million signatures get on the ballot in every state,
Speaker 3: and it was the system was created to be insurmountable
Speaker 3: so that nobody could ever did it. The rules were
Speaker 3: written by the Republican and Democratic Party to make sure
Speaker 3: they didn't have any competition. So, for example, in the
Speaker 3: state of Maine, we have to go and get signatures
Speaker 3: in every town. There's four hundred towns, and then you
Speaker 3: have to get those certified by the town clerk. So
Speaker 3: you need just an army of people and you have
Speaker 3: a short period of spend a time span to do that.
Speaker 3: Every state is different. In New York you have forty
Speaker 3: five days to get I think one hundred and thirteen
Speaker 3: thousand signatures, and in Texas we had to get one
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty thousand and forty days. We ended up
Speaker 3: getting a quarter million. So we're you know, we we
Speaker 3: have a volunteer army, we have fifty thousand people we've
Speaker 3: deployed now and and but am realistic controlling all that
Speaker 3: and it's just a monumental logistical accomplishment.
Speaker 5: Forgive me for I just kind of followed the X timeline.
Speaker 5: But obviously you've gotten a lot of these signatures. But
Speaker 5: then you'll see things where people like, oh, they're not
Speaker 5: verified signatures or they're not counting, Like.
Speaker 1: What is what is the end?
Speaker 3: See what we did because they're going to challenge every signature,
Speaker 3: So we got doubled to triple the number of signatures
Speaker 3: we need. And you know the some of them are
Speaker 3: volunteer gathered, but some of them are we pay people
Speaker 3: to do for us, and they are responsible for validating.
Speaker 3: I mean, we have contractual they have contractual obligations to
Speaker 3: make sure that they're validated. The d n C is
Speaker 3: going to challenge us in every day, so they're going
Speaker 3: to sue us and they're gonna say that you know,
Speaker 3: they're going to find some problem. But so far we've
Speaker 3: won every lawsuit, and I'm very confident that we will
Speaker 3: win every lawsuit. You know, we were very, very careful,
Speaker 3: and so I'm you know, I am dead sure that
Speaker 3: we will be on the ballot in every state by
Speaker 3: the end of August.
Speaker 2: Was a point for you gathering these ctures where you thought, Man,
Speaker 2: I don't know if we're going to get this state
Speaker 2: this date of that, or were you pretty confident the
Speaker 2: entire time. You sound confident now.
Speaker 1: But I'm confident now. I there were there were people.
Speaker 3: Who were telling us the you know, the there was
Speaker 3: a couple of consultants and it's a it's a crazy
Speaker 3: industry and that you know there it's it's that is
Speaker 3: kind of there's a whole cottage industry for ballot harvesting,
Speaker 3: and a lot of it is predatory and unscrupulous, and
Speaker 3: there's all kinds of dirty tricks that they do. They
Speaker 3: you know, for example, they can get people to sabotage you.
Speaker 3: I'll get guys out in front of a of a
Speaker 3: safe way or you know, Bigley Wiggley or whatever, collecting
Speaker 3: signatures all day from customers. And one guy will wait
Speaker 3: till he's got a full page and then pretended to
Speaker 3: sign a signature, but he'll draw a line through the
Speaker 3: whole page, and that invalidates every signature. Oh, there's all
Speaker 3: kinds of little ways and big ways of attacking the
Speaker 3: you know, attacking our efforts, and all those things have
Speaker 3: been done to us. But there were people from the
Speaker 3: beginning who said to us, we can do this. And
Speaker 3: I didn't know whether to believe it or not, because
Speaker 3: you know, you know, you're meeting these people for the
Speaker 3: first time and you have no idea. But we ended
Speaker 3: up choosing the right people, and I think we you know,
Speaker 3: we're gonna get it done.
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Speaker 5: Why do they make it so difficult? You think like
Speaker 5: it wouldn't be difficult for yourself, like being a Kennedy,
Speaker 5: Like why does the DNC challenge everything? Why has it
Speaker 5: been such a difficult?
Speaker 3: I mean the DNC didn't want me. I originally ran
Speaker 3: as a Democrat, right, you know, I was born in
Speaker 3: the Democratic Party. My family has been Democratic office holders
Speaker 3: since since the nineteenne since the eighteen nineties. My great grandfather,
Speaker 3: Anni Fitz was the first Irish Catholic mayor boss and
Speaker 3: you know his my other great grandfather, Patrick Kennedy, was
Speaker 3: was a political boss and a state senator in Massachusetts
Speaker 3: and then and so my family was raised in the
Speaker 3: Democratic Party and I could never imagine that I would
Speaker 3: ever leave the Democratic Party. But I felt like the
Speaker 3: Democratic Party left me. And when I tried to run,
Speaker 3: they passed all of these rules to make sure that.
Speaker 1: I could not win. So, for example, I was campaigning.
Speaker 3: Very, very heavily in New Hampshire and I was doing well,
Speaker 3: and the Democratic Party passed a rule and anybody, any
Speaker 3: candidate that steps in steps foot into the state of
Speaker 3: New Hampshire, which I had already done, all of their
Speaker 3: votes would count for President Biden. So that's one of
Speaker 3: the sixty things that they did to make sure that
Speaker 3: I could not No matter what happened, I could not
Speaker 3: win the nomination. And it was not you know, it
Speaker 3: wasn't Democratic Democrats are so terrified of Donald Trump that
Speaker 3: they kind of have tunnel vision and they ignore a
Speaker 3: lot of the kind of anything that is done to
Speaker 3: make sure that Donald Trump is not president is okay.
Speaker 3: And I think that they've departed from a lot of
Speaker 3: the values that made that party so attractive to me
Speaker 3: growing up.
Speaker 2: If you put yourself in this now Democratic Party shoes,
Speaker 2: where there's so tunnel vision in on Donald Trump, why
Speaker 2: do they fear Trump so much? What is because everyone's
Speaker 2: saying that each side is going to ruin democracy, But
Speaker 2: it seems that they're so focused on beating each other,
Speaker 2: as opposed to what you've said in one of your
Speaker 2: things after Kamala Harris was announced as the next running
Speaker 2: president of the Democratic Party, you said that, you know,
Speaker 2: everyone's so focused on fighting each other and not focused
Speaker 2: on the American people. But what where did this massive
Speaker 2: separation take place? Was it twenty sixteen or was it
Speaker 2: happening much before then?
Speaker 5: You know, I.
Speaker 3: It's all kind of driven by a tribalistic and balls
Speaker 3: and I think that.
Speaker 1: It really that the year.
Speaker 3: It's been happening since the nineteen eighties. But the big
Speaker 3: change here, I think was twenty ten, and that was
Speaker 3: the year that the Supreme Court issued a decision called
Speaker 3: Citizens United and the Citizens United in we almost lost
Speaker 3: a democracy. In the eighteen eighties and eighteen nineties. There was,
Speaker 3: you know, the country who was really taken over after
Speaker 3: the Civil War by these by these giant robber barons.
Speaker 3: There never been concentrations of wealth like that in America.
Speaker 3: And you had these big f these very very powerful
Speaker 3: families like John Dye Rocketfellow, who is as rich now
Speaker 3: as Elon Musk, I mean as rich then as Elon
Speaker 3: Musk is now. You controlled I think about seventy or
Speaker 3: eighty percent of the oil production in the world one man.
Speaker 3: You had the Morgans, the Carnegie Andrew Carnegie.
Speaker 1: You had the Fricks and.
Speaker 3: The Whitneys, these very very powerful robber barons who's sat
Speaker 3: on interlocking boards, the Sugar Trust, the Oil Trust, the
Speaker 3: rail Trust, and they were really running our country. And
Speaker 3: at that time there was no direct election of senators,
Speaker 3: so the public did not vote for the senators. The
Speaker 3: Senate was chosen by the legislators. The legislatures were easy
Speaker 3: to buy a couple of hundred dollars, you could buy
Speaker 3: a state legislature. And it was said of the Pennsylvania
Speaker 3: state legislature at that time that they were the only
Speaker 3: legislature that was not sale because John D. Rockefeller owned
Speaker 3: every one of them and he wasn't selling any of them.
Speaker 3: So that is and then because they controlled the Senate,
Speaker 3: they control the political parties, and they controlled who was
Speaker 3: going to become president. And there were no labor laws
Speaker 3: at that time. There were no labor unions, there was
Speaker 3: no uh, there was child labor, there were no child
Speaker 3: labor laws, there were no women couldn't vote, of course,
Speaker 3: blacks couldn't vote, and it really was not it was
Speaker 3: no longer a democracy.
Speaker 4: And then.
Speaker 3: And then you had a confluence of events occur where
Speaker 3: you had an agrarian movement called populism, there was democratic
Speaker 3: where farmers were rising up, and you had in the
Speaker 3: cities a group called the Progressive Movement, which was sort
Speaker 3: of liberal Republicans who were good government types, and they
Speaker 3: joined with the farmers and they they ended up electing
Speaker 3: to heat Roosevelt, who was part of the oligarchy, but
Speaker 3: he was also idealistic and was willing to stand up
Speaker 3: and he had the confidence to stand up to wealth.
Speaker 3: He wasn't scared or intimidated by it, and he became president.
Speaker 3: They passed the Sherman and He Trust Act, and they
Speaker 3: broke up the Standard Oil Company. They broke up all
Speaker 3: these trusts. They passed child labor laws, They passed a
Speaker 3: forty hour work week, They gave women the vote. They
Speaker 3: passed an income tax for the first time. At that time,
Speaker 3: if you know, John D. Rockefeller paid the same tax
Speaker 3: as the poorest street sweeper. So they made wealthy people
Speaker 3: for the first time pay their share. They passed a
Speaker 3: corporate income tax. And the most important thing they did
Speaker 3: to restore democracy was in two thousand and eight they
Speaker 3: passed the law making it illegal for corporations to donate
Speaker 3: to federal political candidates. That law helped restore American democracy.
Speaker 3: And you know, we became the exemplary democracy in the world,
Speaker 3: and everybody began imitating us when we had the American Revolution,
Speaker 3: and you know, seventeen eighty four, we were the only
Speaker 3: democracy in the world. By eighteen sixty sixty, the beginning
Speaker 3: of the Civil War, there were five all of them
Speaker 3: modeled on us. By the time my uncle was president
Speaker 3: in nineteen sixty, there were one hundred and fifty democracies,
Speaker 3: and pretty soon there would be one hundred and ninety,
Speaker 3: all modeled on the US experiment. So we lived up
Speaker 3: to our promise to being the exemplary nation. And it
Speaker 3: was because we passed all these laws that righted democracy.
Speaker 3: The most important was that law that said corporations can't
Speaker 3: donate to a federal political candidate. In twenty ten, the
Speaker 3: Supreme Court issued a decision saying that any restrictions on
Speaker 3: companies giving to political candidates is a violation of free speech,
Speaker 3: that that donation is actually a speech, and that it's
Speaker 3: protected by the First Amendment, and any restrictions are illegal.
Speaker 3: That released a tsunami of corporate money into the political process.
Speaker 3: And so this election is going to cost. Prior to
Speaker 3: twenty ten, the presidential collection an election would cause maybe
Speaker 3: a billion dollars all in. This one's going to cost
Speaker 3: fifteen billion. And that money is all coming from billionaires
Speaker 3: and from you know, if you if you want to
Speaker 3: run for Centator of New York, you've got to get
Speaker 3: three hundred million dollars. That means you're on the phone
Speaker 3: all day with millionaires and billionaires and you do not
Speaker 3: have time to talk to an ordinary people. So both
Speaker 3: political parties became possessed by a very wealth, you know,
Speaker 3: a great wealth, and by corporate control and the and
Speaker 3: the only way they just thing wish themselves is by
Speaker 3: pointing to the other one and saying you're evil, You're
Speaker 3: going to be the end of the republic. And so
Speaker 3: I think that that's when the stakes really heated up
Speaker 3: and people just became very, very tribalistic. I'm in this party,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to listen to anybody else, and anything
Speaker 3: that's critical of my party, I'm going to ignore it.
Speaker 3: Anything that's you know, critical about the other guy, I'm
Speaker 3: going to believe it. And we're all in a position
Speaker 3: now we're being told that if you vote for that guy,
Speaker 3: it's the end of the world and it's not healthy
Speaker 3: for our country. And it's not true either. You know,
Speaker 3: we have some institutions in this country that are strong
Speaker 3: at present, even if you know, like on January sixth,
Speaker 3: you know, there were a bunch of people who went
Speaker 3: into the Capitol, but the US military was not supporting them.
Speaker 3: This was not a coupd ata against our country.
Speaker 1: It was not you know, in a sense that.
Speaker 3: It really was a threat to an existential threat to
Speaker 3: American democracy. There were a lot of people with bad intention.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of people committed crimes. They deserve
Speaker 3: to be in jail. But in terms of threatening the
Speaker 3: United States system of government, you know, it's just it's
Speaker 3: not true and just that's not what it was.
Speaker 1: It was not good.
Speaker 3: It was bad, but you know it's been inflated to
Speaker 3: make it seem like it was that America, the American
Speaker 3: experience with experiment with self governance was hanging by threat
Speaker 3: and that just wasn't real.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, we we didn't put in this insurance policy
Speaker 2: before you stepped in the bus because I know we're
Speaker 2: kind of we're going to have this little time and
Speaker 2: then somebody's coming for you to sign a document. But
Speaker 2: this podcast is not built for politics. Will and I
Speaker 2: we don't know anything.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about something.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, yeah, I thought everything the dullest, it's
Speaker 3: the dullest object.
Speaker 2: It's it's no, it's one of those things though where
Speaker 2: it's this is it's so interesting. But because of the
Speaker 2: things you just mentioned, like you talking about January sixth,
Speaker 2: it was a bad thing. People should be in jail,
Speaker 2: but it wasn't as bad as everybody made it. And
Speaker 2: now we're looking at everything as this like life or
Speaker 2: death situation, when really it's taking a you know, a
Speaker 2: level headed individual who knows the system very well to
Speaker 2: just say, hey, there are good things and bad things,
Speaker 2: but to say it's the worst thing or the best thing.
Speaker 2: That's where we're kind of losing ourselves in.
Speaker 3: This time, and we're losing, you know, we're losing the
Speaker 3: fact that we're all America and that the values that
Speaker 3: we share in common are much larger than these little
Speaker 3: sort of culture war issues and identity politics issues that
Speaker 3: are being used to keep us all apart. And in truth,
Speaker 3: people are benefiting from that are these big you know,
Speaker 3: the financial interests like Black Rock, State Street, Van Guard,
Speaker 3: these big companies. Those three companies own eighty eight percent
Speaker 3: of the S and P five hundred and they're now
Speaker 3: buying all all the resident residential housing and it's driving
Speaker 3: up housing caused in this country. They're buying all the
Speaker 3: farm land in our country and and corporatizing agriculture, and
Speaker 3: they're they really are genuine existential threat to democracy and
Speaker 3: they're but there you look what. They're controlled both political parties,
Speaker 3: they're giving money to both, They control all the all
Speaker 3: the military companies, They control. Blackrock is the biggest owner
Speaker 3: of General Dynamics of NORTHWK Grumman of Owing of Lockheed.
Speaker 3: So they have the contract to destroy Ukraine and they
Speaker 3: also have the contractor rebuild it. And they're making money
Speaker 3: both ways and those of the people, and all of
Speaker 3: the policies they're designed are designed to strip mind wealth
Speaker 3: from the American middle class and shifted upward to this
Speaker 3: new olive gard billionaires during the COVID lockdowns, with five
Speaker 3: hundred days of lockdowns under President Trump and President Bidens,
Speaker 3: So they're both at fault. We created a billionaire a
Speaker 3: day in five hundred days, and we shifted four point
Speaker 3: three trillion dollars from the American middle class to this
Speaker 3: new aristocracy. And they closed down every business in this
Speaker 3: country three point three million businesses right that forty percent
Speaker 3: of the black owned businesses will never reopen. And the
Speaker 3: companies that they kept open were the companies that were
Speaker 3: contributing to their parties. You know, Amazon, Uh, Facebook, Twitter,
Speaker 3: all of these you know, these big tech companies and
Speaker 3: Verizon and the big communications concerns, the you know, the
Speaker 3: oil companies, the big egg companies. None of them shut down.
Speaker 3: They were all just raking in the money, and now
Speaker 3: you know, and and now they're they don't have any
Speaker 3: competitive business from the little people. And that was the
Speaker 3: backbone of the American experienced small business.
Speaker 1: And it's being just.
Speaker 3: Viscerted and we're all pointing each other and saying, you're
Speaker 3: not really American, and it's it's terrible. It's not a
Speaker 3: good outcome. And it allows that he is very, very
Speaker 3: sort of dark and powerful people to do, I think,
Speaker 3: tear the heart out of our country.
Speaker 5: What would be like a practical strategy to start restoring
Speaker 5: the middle class A lot I feel like a lot
Speaker 5: of candidates always talk about restoring the middle class. But
Speaker 5: for people out there listening that struggle to buy a home,
Speaker 5: it's like, if you're in Nashville and you're trying to
Speaker 5: buy a single family home, you're looking at several hundred
Speaker 5: thousand dollars and it's almost impossible. It's almost impossible to
Speaker 5: buy a home these days. So what is like a
Speaker 5: what is like.
Speaker 2: Is that you back there? It was you yeah, all right,
Speaker 2: no longer in season.
Speaker 5: That's all right, Well, we get like a practical strategy
Speaker 5: that's understood by people listening to.
Speaker 1: This, I mean, we we should pass a lot.
Speaker 3: That makes an elite all for these big investment firms
Speaker 3: to buy thousands of houses.
Speaker 1: And that's what's happening.
Speaker 3: I mean, we all know people who have who've gone
Speaker 3: into has grown a house or they put down money,
Speaker 3: and you know, and the housing prices they're climbing. So
Speaker 3: two years ago, the average home in this country costs
Speaker 3: two hundred and fifteen thousand dollars. Now it's over four
Speaker 3: hundred thousand, and it's and you're paying seven or eight
Speaker 3: percent interests from three percent, and nobody might.
Speaker 1: You know, I have seven kids. They all went to
Speaker 1: the best schools.
Speaker 3: You know, my son Bobby is forty, he had does
Speaker 3: have a house.
Speaker 1: He and amarillis.
Speaker 3: My six younger kids went to the best schools in
Speaker 3: our country. They have great jobs, and none of them
Speaker 3: can afford a home. So if they can't afford a home,
Speaker 3: there's nobody who can afford a home. And that generation
Speaker 3: is going to be the first generation in American history
Speaker 3: that is far worse off than their parent generation. And
Speaker 3: they're not going to own my home. And the home
Speaker 3: ownership is the the core of the American experience. You know,
Speaker 3: we when I was a kid, we had my uncle's president.
Speaker 3: We had We were the wealthiest country. We owned half
Speaker 3: the wealth on the face of the earth.
Speaker 1: In America.
Speaker 3: The American middle class was the greatest economic engine the
Speaker 3: history of mankind. One of the reasons for that was
Speaker 3: because the industrial base of Europe kind of obliterated during
Speaker 3: World War Two, but our factories were still cooking and
Speaker 3: we were granking out cars and television sets and all
Speaker 3: the things nobody else could build. Yet we had no competition.
Speaker 3: But also more importantly, we passed these extraordinary wars laws
Speaker 3: that said, if you serve in the military, you got
Speaker 3: to own a home.
Speaker 1: You got the you know, the.
Speaker 3: GI bill, and you're going to get into a home.
Speaker 3: And the home at that point costs about seven grand,
Speaker 3: and the average income was about almost six grand, so
Speaker 3: you could homes were very, very affordable.
Speaker 1: And once you own a.
Speaker 3: Home, everything changes because now you care about your community.
Speaker 3: You care about your schools, you care about your police,
Speaker 3: you care about your transportation, you care about the healthcare,
Speaker 3: what the hospital looks like. You become part of an
Speaker 3: investment in your community, and you care about the appearance
Speaker 3: of your home and what your neighbor's home, and you
Speaker 3: you you know you're invested in it. More importantly, you
Speaker 3: now have equity, which means you could borrow money. And
Speaker 3: if you can borrow money, then you can pursue your
Speaker 3: entrepreneurial impulses. And this is something nobody else in the
Speaker 3: world could do. Have that widespread home ownership that allowed
Speaker 3: this ferment of entrepreneurial activity in our country, where you know,
Speaker 3: if you can borrow money, I get a second mortgage
Speaker 3: on your home, you can build a yoga studio or
Speaker 3: a saloon, or a bowling alley or a sporting goodness
Speaker 3: store and you and we started building communities based on that,
Speaker 3: on the capacity to borrow money. Well, now we've got
Speaker 3: a generation that cannot borrow money because they have no equity,
Speaker 3: and they are going to be on the sidelines of
Speaker 3: American capitalism. And we're going from an ownership society to
Speaker 3: a renter society. And when you do that, you go
Speaker 3: from being citizens to being subjects. That is the you know,
Speaker 3: that's the colonial system, is the European aristocratic system that
Speaker 3: we fought at revolution to get where the rich people
Speaker 3: owned all the land and they loaned all the productivity
Speaker 3: and your only choice was to work for them.
Speaker 1: In one way or another.
Speaker 3: You read your house from them, and we're going back
Speaker 3: to that now, and that we got to reverse that.
Speaker 3: And one of the ways to do it is to
Speaker 3: end the tax breaks that make it profitable for black Rock,
Speaker 3: State Street, Vanguard, Fidelity, Blackstone to buy all.
Speaker 1: Of our land.
Speaker 3: You know, everybody, every one of us knows somebody who
Speaker 3: put you know, has growing a home, was about to
Speaker 3: sign a contract and somebody comes in at the last
Speaker 3: minute with a cash offer twenty percent higher than the
Speaker 3: asking price, and Sweet takes off the table. And you're saying,
Speaker 3: who just stole my home? Yeah, and you go and
Speaker 3: it's an LLC with an ambiguous name.
Speaker 2: In Tennessee, we call that California. We say, everyone in
Speaker 2: California's coming in, yeah, taking our house. Yeah Yeah, they're
Speaker 2: all moving it from Wow West to here.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well that is true in Nashville to and sometimes it's
Speaker 3: human beings that are taken, but a lot of times
Speaker 3: it's all over the country. Is an LLC with this
Speaker 3: ambiguous name, And you follow that the lines, you pull
Speaker 3: the strings, and it leads you back to black Rock
Speaker 3: and State Street and Vanguard and these giant financial houses.
Speaker 3: And so our kids are now competing for the price
Speaker 3: of money against these BMTH corporation that even if you
Speaker 3: had the greatest credit rating in the world, Blackrock is
Speaker 3: paying thirty percent less than you for money. So of
Speaker 3: course they can afford that at home when you can't,
Speaker 3: and then they'll rent it back to you, but they
Speaker 3: own it. And that is you know what's happening. And
Speaker 3: we have to make it so they can't do that anymore.
Speaker 3: That's number one. I mean number two, we have to
Speaker 3: stop printing money because that is what's driving inflation. And
Speaker 3: that's that is a tax on the poor. It's attacks
Speaker 3: on middle class, attacks on working people, and it is
Speaker 3: it's theft. And you know the reason we have it
Speaker 3: is to fund the wars or addicted to wars. And
Speaker 3: you know, the Ukraine War is just the latest example
Speaker 3: of a war we should have never gone into, and
Speaker 3: that you know, we're spending, you know we're spending We
Speaker 3: were spending two hundred billion dollars on that war when
Speaker 3: they spent another half trillion dollars to rebuild the Ukraine afterward,
Speaker 3: and we don't have the money to rebuild Lihina and Malley.
Speaker 3: You know, I was out there where they burned this
Speaker 3: incredible jewel of a city, you know, in this historical
Speaker 3: city in Maui, and and uh, you know, President Biden
Speaker 3: never visited there. Nobody has ever visited there. And they
Speaker 3: can't get you know, they they they were talking about
Speaker 3: passing a resolution renaming behind A Kiev because they saw
Speaker 3: all the money going over to to Ukraine. But we
Speaker 3: don't have the money to build an American community that
Speaker 3: you know is designated our kids can't get into. You know,
Speaker 3: we're in a crisis right now and we don't have
Speaker 3: you know, we're like, we're like an alcohol like who
Speaker 3: is in who's behind on his mortgage payments and he's
Speaker 3: in the bar by using the milk money to buy
Speaker 3: rounds for strangers.
Speaker 1: And you know that that is a situation we're in right.
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Speaker 5: All you have something I was gonna say, simple brain,
Speaker 5: simple brain, go ahead, say we stopped printing money. Say
Speaker 5: you pass this uh, pass this law to where the
Speaker 5: corporation stopped buying the housing. Like what is the domino
Speaker 5: What does that domino effect look like?
Speaker 2: I mean, my simple brain thinks to that question, things
Speaker 2: get worse before they get better, right, Like it's the
Speaker 2: darkest before the dawn. You stop printing money, you're gonna
Speaker 2: have hit a recession pretty quick because now there's no
Speaker 2: more money and we're solely rebuilding.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: Well, here's what you cannot just.
Speaker 6: You.
Speaker 3: You can't cut your way out of a out of
Speaker 3: this debt. We have a thirty four trillion dollar debt.
Speaker 3: Now the cost of servicing that debt, So the money
Speaker 3: we're paying on the interest is now larger than our
Speaker 3: defense budget. Within five years, fifty cents out of every
Speaker 3: dollar that is collected in taxes is going to go
Speaker 3: to servicing the debt within ten years. One hundred percent
Speaker 3: is not sustainable. When you have a debt that size,
Speaker 3: you can't cut your way out of it. What you
Speaker 3: need to do is cut the things that are not
Speaker 3: adding to GDP.
Speaker 1: So the military.
Speaker 3: If you build a plane or bomb, then you're sending
Speaker 3: it somewhere and blowing it up, and it's like digging
Speaker 3: a hole, and you know, and then paying somebody to
Speaker 3: dig the hole and then to fill it up. It
Speaker 3: adds nothing to the economy. There's no goods or services
Speaker 3: that are accruing to benefit quality of life in our
Speaker 3: country from building bombs and sending them abroad. Every million
Speaker 3: dollars we spend on the military creates two jobs in America.
Speaker 3: If you use that same million dollars on childcare, it
Speaker 3: creates eighteen jobs.
Speaker 1: So that's what you have to do.
Speaker 3: And that allows the mother to go if she chooses,
Speaker 3: and you know, I think we should honor motherhood, but
Speaker 3: the mother, if she chooses, should be able to leave
Speaker 3: the home and get a job and pay taxes and
Speaker 3: create wealth. And you grow the economy out of the deficity.
Speaker 3: You got to cut spending, you know, some you also
Speaker 3: have to reinvest the money that is misdirected into you know,
Speaker 3: and by the way, we're spending twice now what we
Speaker 3: were at the height of the Cold War in real dollars,
Speaker 3: so and that money is not about national defense, it's
Speaker 3: about global domination.
Speaker 1: What I would do is.
Speaker 3: When my grandfather wanted, when my uncle Jack Kennedy did,
Speaker 3: which is to create Fortress America, make ourself, arm ourselves
Speaker 3: to the teeth at home, make ourselves toos to conquer,
Speaker 3: have enough military power to protect the sea lanes, to
Speaker 3: protect neutral areas like the Arctic Antarctic, and to protect
Speaker 3: and then to fight two small confrontations and different theaters
Speaker 3: of the world to punish bad behavior if we need to,
Speaker 3: but otherwise, and take that other money and spend it
Speaker 3: making a lot of people's lives been are rebuilding our
Speaker 3: industrial base at home, which we don't have anymore. We
Speaker 3: can't fight a war anymore because we don't.
Speaker 1: We were able to fight World War.
Speaker 3: Two because we had these vast factories better than anybody
Speaker 3: else in the world that were creating automobiles, and we
Speaker 3: were able to make.
Speaker 1: Tanks and airplanes. And today now this in.
Speaker 3: The last twenty years, we've exported all our industrial base
Speaker 3: to China. Oh, China can fight a war right now.
Speaker 3: And China can beat us in a war because it
Speaker 3: has an industrial base. And we know long when we
Speaker 3: can't build tanks and ships and you know, a ship
Speaker 3: a day like we were doing during World War Two.
Speaker 3: People aren't even realizing this how weak our country is
Speaker 3: because we've allowed our industrial base to be exported, and
Speaker 3: we need to bring it back here and start rebuilding
Speaker 3: the American middle class. I don't think it gets worse.
Speaker 3: I think we start realigning that money, you know, very
Speaker 3: quickly to things that actually improved people's lives, like childcare
Speaker 3: is one of those things that is one of the
Speaker 3: quickest ways to start rebuilding the economy, and then changing
Speaker 3: the rules to make it much easier for kids to
Speaker 3: get into houses, you know, and by their own house.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you something, when I was a kid, when
Speaker 3: I was in nineteen sixty four, my uncle was killed
Speaker 3: in sixty three, and my father was shattered by that
Speaker 3: and really, uh began coming out of it. Almost took
Speaker 3: him like nine months to even you know, to begin
Speaker 3: to kind of function again. And we we were invited
Speaker 3: by a h anti communist group to come to Poland,
Speaker 3: which was then a communist country, and we went to Poland,
Speaker 3: my brothers to two of the older siblings. I had
Speaker 3: eleven siblings and they I was on the third. So
Speaker 3: me and my and the top four sing siblings went
Speaker 3: to Poland. The Polish government didn't want us there and
Speaker 3: they made that clear, and they they didn't want the
Speaker 3: Polish people to know we were in and all of
Speaker 3: the people, all all of news of our presence in
Speaker 3: the country was blacked out on the official news, which
Speaker 3: was you know, it's all state on media. So in fact,
Speaker 3: two days before we went, we went to Sears and
Speaker 3: Roebach and we went to Woolworths and Washington, d Z.
Speaker 3: And we bought presents with my mom for her kids
Speaker 3: that we were going to go to an orphanage and
Speaker 3: distribute these gifts. You know, everybody wanted American stuff at
Speaker 3: that point. Everyone everybody wanted to We're the only ones
Speaker 3: making transistor radios, making like automobiles, making blue jeans, and
Speaker 3: everybody wanted American stuff. We went bought toys and apparel,
Speaker 3: you know, clothing for these kids, and we get to Warsaw.
Speaker 3: We go to the orphanage and the Polish government had
Speaker 3: removed all the children because they didn't want us have
Speaker 3: any contact with the Polish people.
Speaker 1: Two days later.
Speaker 3: We went to crack Out to visit this cardinal. And
Speaker 3: the cardinal was a living saint, you know, and I
Speaker 3: grew up a Catholic. We werepers at at Rosary twice
Speaker 3: a day, We went to church twice a day. We
Speaker 3: prayed before and after every meal. We read the Bible,
Speaker 3: very Catholic family. We read the lives of and this
Speaker 3: the cardinal who was who's was presided over the cathedral
Speaker 3: of the Black Minton hum which isn't Crackout Square, had
Speaker 3: stood up to the Communists, He had been jailed, hive
Speaker 3: been tortured, he had endured those challenges. Was such piety
Speaker 3: and bravery that he inspired a religious resurgence in the
Speaker 3: Catholic Church in Poland. And everybody knew the men that
Speaker 3: he died, the Catholic Church was going to be atify
Speaker 3: him as a saint. So we knew as kids that
Speaker 3: we were going to meet somebody who was a living saint,
Speaker 3: which you know, to us that was the biggest deal
Speaker 3: in our lives. And we went into Cregout. When we
Speaker 3: went through Grekhouse Square, we were the only car in
Speaker 3: the square, and there weren't too many cars in Poland
Speaker 3: at that time, and there was a you actually, I
Speaker 3: think that's a picture of what happened. Then we went
Speaker 3: into Crakouse Square and there was nobody and we're the
Speaker 3: only car there. We met for a couple of hours
Speaker 3: with the with the cardinal, and in fact, there were
Speaker 3: a young priest made us chicken sandwiches in the kitchen
Speaker 3: when we were waiting for the cardinal, and that priest
Speaker 3: later became a pup, John Paul the Second, And we
Speaker 3: met with the Cardinal. Then we come out and crackousewhere
Speaker 3: and that crowd a million people are waiting for us,
Speaker 3: and the word had spread through word of mouth, and
Speaker 3: they had shut down all the shops in Crackout and
Speaker 3: all the entire population that the city had come out
Speaker 3: to see our family, to see an American because they
Speaker 3: loved our country, and we were we were stuck in
Speaker 3: the sea of people that limited the embassy limo couldn't have.
Speaker 3: My father pulled us all out of the back window
Speaker 3: of the car under the roof and we stood there
Speaker 3: and watched this huge crowd and you know, I had
Speaker 3: you could see me there with my little shorty shorts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you.
Speaker 3: And they were they started singing to us a stolt,
Speaker 3: which means may you live forever. And then they started
Speaker 3: singing this anthem tized which the ambassador said that song
Speaker 3: is illegal for.
Speaker 1: Them to sing. You go to jail if you sing
Speaker 1: that song.
Speaker 3: And the whole crowd was singing it, and they were
Speaker 3: there was just tears flowing down their faces and they
Speaker 3: were reaching up you can see them to touch you know,
Speaker 3: I was signing autographs, this little ten year old.
Speaker 4: Kid and uh, you know my father, Yeah, exactly so.
Speaker 1: And you know, on that trip, because these people loved America.
Speaker 3: And on that trip, we went to England, we went
Speaker 3: to France, we went to Germany, we went to Italy, Greece.
Speaker 1: Everywhere we went, the same thing happened.
Speaker 3: She's spontaneous crowds coming out of notewhere, just because they
Speaker 3: were so proud of America. And you know, my uncle
Speaker 3: had made a commitment, he said when he told his
Speaker 3: best friend, he said, his best friend, Ben Bradley, had
Speaker 3: said to him, what do you want in your gravestone?
Speaker 3: And he said, he said, my uncle said, immediately he
Speaker 3: kept the peace. He said the primary job of a
Speaker 3: president of the United States to keep the country out
Speaker 3: of war. My uncle had been in the war.
Speaker 1: He had a lot.
Speaker 3: Two of my uncles died in the war, including his
Speaker 3: brother twenty years later, you know, thirty years later, if
Speaker 3: I mentioned Uncle Joe's name to my grandfather, he'd burst
Speaker 3: into tears because he was the golden child. He was
Speaker 3: the oldest brother, and you know, he was the guy
Speaker 3: that they had invested all this promise in. There's pictures
Speaker 3: of him just before he died. He volunteered for a
Speaker 3: suicide mission and his you know, his his plane was
Speaker 3: blown up. It was the first remote control flying and
Speaker 3: he was and he flewid he was killed. My other uncle,
Speaker 3: who was you know, married to my aunt to Kick Kennedy,
Speaker 3: he also died. For the first days of the war,
Speaker 3: my uncle Jack had been lost at sea. His his
Speaker 3: uh he tee boat was cut in two by a
Speaker 3: fog in the Blacket Straits off the Solomon Islands by
Speaker 3: a Japanese destroyer. And he had he had been on
Speaker 3: the Harvard swim team. He had swum six miles. One
Speaker 3: of his crew had been badly burned, two were killed.
Speaker 3: He swam six miles with the lanyard and his teeth dragging,
Speaker 3: you know, this guy who had been badly burned.
Speaker 1: And then they hid out on.
Speaker 3: An island for ten days, and two Solomon Islanders came
Speaker 3: to that island and he and they were collecting coconuts,
Speaker 3: and they hated the Japanese because they were the colonizers.
Speaker 3: My uncle wrote his coordinates onto a coconut and they
Speaker 3: buried it under a pile of coconuts, and those Solomon
Speaker 3: Islanders went thirty miles across the Blackets, across the ocean,
Speaker 3: and gave the coconut to the British headquarters. My uncle
Speaker 3: was rescued. But he was the only president who's ever
Speaker 3: won the Purple Heart. So he was a warrior, you
Speaker 3: know he and he wanted to keep the country out
Speaker 3: of war. Incidentally, I'll tell you a funny story. During
Speaker 3: his inauguration, I was seven years old, and he invited
Speaker 3: the captain of that Japanese destroyer that had sunk him
Speaker 3: to his inauguration as an honored guest, and I got
Speaker 3: to meet him. Then you know that he was the
Speaker 3: guy who sank Uncle Jack and almost killed him, and
Speaker 3: he was an admiral and the navy, but my uncle
Speaker 3: also invited the two Solomon Islanders who had rescued him,
Speaker 3: and the British guy vener of the Solomon Island was
Speaker 3: embarrassed by their appearance because they had never worn shoes,
Speaker 3: and they were wearing loin cloths, you know, they and
Speaker 3: they didn't speak any English. So he chose two kind
Speaker 3: of presentable Solomon Islanders and sent them instead, you know.
Speaker 1: Sent the civilize.
Speaker 3: And my uncle Jack was so pissed off at him,
Speaker 3: and uh and you know, he never got to see
Speaker 3: him again. But about ten years ago, my little brother
Speaker 3: Max went to the Solomon Islanders with Robert Ballard, who
Speaker 3: is the undersea explorer who found that he discovered the
Speaker 3: Titanic right.
Speaker 1: And they were looking for PT.
Speaker 3: One O nine and they found it. They found like
Speaker 3: an inge, a little small part of an engine block.
Speaker 1: They did.
Speaker 3: Those pete boats were made of plywood, so they you know,
Speaker 3: nothing's left of the original hall, but they found a
Speaker 3: little piece of it. But while they were in the
Speaker 3: Solomon Islanders, my brother met those two guys. They're still alive,
Speaker 3: and they they were both wearing T shirts and said,
Speaker 3: I rescued John F.
Speaker 1: Kennedy, so awesome, And my brother said.
Speaker 3: When they were introduced to him, they both burst into tears.
Speaker 3: They knelt on the ground and were kissing his feet,
Speaker 3: which was a cultural thing, and that you know, he
Speaker 3: was crying and they were crying. He just said it
Speaker 3: was incredible. But anyway, my uncle knew, you know, he
Speaker 3: resisted all. They tried to get him to go into
Speaker 3: Laos in sixty one.
Speaker 1: He refused.
Speaker 3: They tried to get him there. There's the guys that's
Speaker 3: a great teacher. They tried to get him to go
Speaker 3: into Vietnam and he refused. They tried to get him
Speaker 3: to go into Berlin. They twice tried to get him
Speaker 3: to go into Cuba, and he wouldn't do it. He
Speaker 3: never sent a combat troop abroad to die. And a
Speaker 3: month before he died in October twenty second, nineteen sixty
Speaker 3: he you know, he ended up sending sixteen thousand advisers
Speaker 3: to Vietnam to tea you know, to teach them how
Speaker 3: their helicopter pilots. And they were green berets. Under the
Speaker 3: rules of engagement, they weren't supposed to fight, but they
Speaker 3: did anyway, and for reasons.
Speaker 1: You can imagine.
Speaker 3: And he heard that one of them got killed, and
Speaker 3: he asked Walt Rosstow, who was one of his aides,
Speaker 3: to give him a casualty list of all of the
Speaker 3: American casualties. And Walt Rostell came back in there seventy
Speaker 3: five Americans had died, and he said, that's too many.
Speaker 1: I'm bringing them all home.
Speaker 3: And that afternoon he signed an order called National Security
Speaker 3: Order two sixty three, ordering all US military personnel home
Speaker 3: from Vietnam by sixty five by nineteen sixty five, the
Speaker 3: first thousand coming home in December of nineteen sixty three.
Speaker 3: That would have been six weeks later. Thirty in the
Speaker 3: day after he signed that order, he was murdered. And
Speaker 3: then a week after that, President Johnson remanded the order.
Speaker 3: Johnson sent two hundred and fifty thousand troops, which they'd
Speaker 3: been trying to get my uncle Jack too. And then,
Speaker 3: you know, my father ran against the war in sixty
Speaker 3: eight and he, you know, he was killed running against
Speaker 3: the war. Martin Luther King two months before my dad died.
Speaker 3: Martin Luther King had become a peace activist.
Speaker 1: He was killed.
Speaker 3: And then Nixon became president and you know, sent over
Speaker 3: five hundred and sixty thousand Americans fifty six thousands of
Speaker 3: them never came home. We killed a million Vietnamese. My cousin,
Speaker 3: George Kaikole died over there during the ten offensive. And
Speaker 3: you know, again, it was a war that should have
Speaker 3: never happened.
Speaker 1: My uncle knew that.
Speaker 3: And and but because of that, because of his commitment,
Speaker 3: he said, I don't want he I don't want African
Speaker 3: kids and Asian kids and Latin American kids when they
Speaker 3: hear about the United States of America to think of
Speaker 3: a guy in a uniform with a gun. I want
Speaker 3: him to think of a Peace Corps volunteer. I want
Speaker 3: him to think of the USAID program and the Alliance
Speaker 3: for Progress, which was supposed to put America, you know,
Speaker 3: on the side of the poor and help grow middle
Speaker 3: class in this country and not you know, be giving
Speaker 3: weapons to everybody.
Speaker 1: And he succeeded in doing that.
Speaker 3: And because of that, there's no now more statues to
Speaker 3: my uncle, more universities named after more parks, more roads, avenues,
Speaker 3: boulevards and Africa, Asian and Latin America than any other
Speaker 3: US president in the history, and probably more than all.
Speaker 1: Of them combined.
Speaker 3: And that's a good foreign policy because you know, we
Speaker 3: want them. He wanted to project economic power abroad, but
Speaker 3: not military power. And the strategy of projecting military power
Speaker 3: has made us now, you know, enormously unpopular, and it's
Speaker 3: pushed Russia and China and Iran together in a terrible,
Speaker 3: terrible alliance. For the United States, it's created the Bricks organization,
Speaker 3: which is now about just the US dollar is the
Speaker 3: global reserve currency. And and you know, none of that
Speaker 3: is good for our country. It's all bad. It's all
Speaker 3: because we we lead with the military than leading.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we yeah, we got we gotta do the notary thing.
Speaker 2: But by the way that your your storytelling ability is incredible,
Speaker 2: Like I know that all like all of our mouths
Speaker 2: are wide open listening to you tell these incredible so
Speaker 2: I've heard it is it's an honor.
Speaker 5: It really is awesome.
Speaker 2: It is awesome. Let's let's get this notary in here
Speaker 2: and we'll we'll start back up.
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Speaker 1: You were after? Was it silk called RFK when you
Speaker 1: were there?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Yes, when I don't know, I forgot when they.
Speaker 3: But we had a My mom was, I mean, you
Speaker 3: know these are and.
Speaker 5: We're back on where we're starting to cover that he
Speaker 5: is a football guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I grew up with the Redskins, particularly
Speaker 3: because they played it. You know, they renamed the stadium
Speaker 3: after my dad when my dad was killed in sixty
Speaker 3: eight and my mother Edward Bennett Williams. There, I am
Speaker 3: catching a football throne and I did catch that husband,
Speaker 3: by the way. By my uncle had a beautiful arm
Speaker 3: and my dad was the smallest guy on the on
Speaker 3: the most successful Harvard football teaham in history. And you know,
Speaker 3: they were they love football and so they Yeah, they
Speaker 3: named the RFK Stadium after my dad.
Speaker 1: And we had.
Speaker 3: We always had redskins in our house, and we had
Speaker 3: the Green Beret. I grew up also a lot of
Speaker 3: Green Berets at our house. My uncle started the Navy
Speaker 3: Seals and he allowed the Pentagon wanted to take the
Speaker 3: beret away from.
Speaker 1: The Green Berets. He thought because they it was you know, it.
Speaker 3: Wasn't they they've viewed it as a kind of defiance
Speaker 3: or something. And my uncle.
Speaker 1: Allowed them to keep.
Speaker 3: It, and they were always very grateful to him, and
Speaker 3: he's kind of their patron present to this day. And
Speaker 3: we had Major Ruddy, who was the head of the
Speaker 3: Green Berets, was at our house all the time they
Speaker 3: were firing grappling. We had a four story house in
Speaker 3: Virginia and they would come to our house and do
Speaker 3: these demonstrations. They would fire grappling hunks up out into
Speaker 3: the roof and they would come, you know, climb up
Speaker 3: there and then repel down. I went to Fort Bragg
Speaker 3: and I also went to their training camp and l
Speaker 3: Junk which is down in Puerto Rico when I was
Speaker 3: a kid.
Speaker 1: But they also built like a full scale.
Speaker 3: Obstacle course in our house, like a military obstacle course
Speaker 3: in one of the pastors, you know.
Speaker 1: At our house, and.
Speaker 3: My mom every year would have a pet show. It
Speaker 3: was like a benefit for an orphanage in Washington, d C.
Speaker 3: And people come, thousands of people coming. They had you
Speaker 3: had to bring a pet to get into the pet show.
Speaker 3: There was a lot of funny stories that happened there.
Speaker 3: But the Redskins would come and run the obstacle course
Speaker 3: and they had you know, competitions on their.
Speaker 1: Obstacle course every year.
Speaker 3: And and joth Heisman, he came very very close to
Speaker 3: my mom and he was I grew up with Sonny
Speaker 3: Jurgensen and you know these all all these old guys, were.
Speaker 5: They your team.
Speaker 1: Team growing up?
Speaker 5: What do you think about them changing the name to Commanders.
Speaker 5: I gotta go, what do you think I think it
Speaker 5: needs to be HTTR Hail to the Redskins, to the Redskins. Yeah,
Speaker 5: HTTR is the acronym that that the Redskins.
Speaker 1: Oh the Redskins.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, like.
Speaker 2: They would say that. Yeah, HTTR would be like ht
Speaker 2: tag or.
Speaker 5: The HTTR is like the fan base, Hail to the Redskins,
Speaker 5: Hail to the Redskins, their fight song and everything. Yeah,
Speaker 5: they obviously changed the name to the Commanders, And that's
Speaker 5: always like a topic of discussion in the football world. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: it is.
Speaker 2: You can understand why the name little if.
Speaker 1: It's I have problems with I have problems with a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of that stuff.
Speaker 3: And I you know, I've worked on indigenous issues on
Speaker 3: my whole life. Twenty percent of my career has been
Speaker 3: working for Indians and and you know, negotiating treaties in
Speaker 3: Latin America and the United States, and and and and
Speaker 3: and in Canada and and indicating on behalf of Indians against.
Speaker 1: Big ballooters and stuff.
Speaker 3: So I'm very sensitive to their to those issues.
Speaker 1: But I am I was sad to see the change.
Speaker 5: That was well done.
Speaker 2: That was a great, great answer navigating those waters. Are
Speaker 2: you are you it's a tough deal? Are you hard
Speaker 2: some time?
Speaker 5: Are you a college football guy? Are you more pro?
Speaker 5: More NFL more NFL.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want. My wife is a rabbit.
Speaker 3: Fanta. She was asked by She went to University of
Speaker 3: Central Florida and yeah, my dad. You know, you know
Speaker 3: what's interesting, my dad, because I'm watching this picture of
Speaker 3: my dad and I think that's a I think that's
Speaker 3: a Hope Indian that he's he's with.
Speaker 1: And we went to that readit.
Speaker 3: We went to all the reservations when I was growing
Speaker 3: up to the command.
Speaker 1: She's to the Cherokee Mohawk to Hope. He didn't have
Speaker 1: a hoe.
Speaker 3: Everywhere we went, he would take us to a reservation.
Speaker 3: There were always Indians in our house. He had a
Speaker 3: bunch of Eskimos. We had a freak snowstorm in Washington
Speaker 3: one time and there were a bunch of Eskimos visiting
Speaker 3: my father at the Justice Partment, and he brought them
Speaker 3: all home for lunch and they built this huge igloe
Speaker 3: in our backyard.
Speaker 1: It was very, very cool.
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
Speaker 3: But my father, in nineteen sixty eight, he went out
Speaker 3: to the Pine Ridge Reservation where I've spent a lot
Speaker 3: of time in South Dakota, and he spent a whole
Speaker 3: day there. There were twenty thousand white people waiting for
Speaker 3: him in Rapid City, and his age were saying, you
Speaker 3: got to go because Indians don't vote anyway, and I
Speaker 3: don't care. And he spent the whole day out there.
Speaker 1: He saw.
Speaker 3: A group of Sioux living on in an automobile family
Speaker 3: living in it burned out a hulk of an autoville,
Speaker 3: and it made him cry. It's the only time, other
Speaker 3: than when his brother died, that anybody had ever seen
Speaker 3: him cry. And that word spread on the reservation, and
Speaker 3: a few weeks later when he on the last day
Speaker 3: of his life, he won the state of South Dakota
Speaker 3: because he got virtually one hundred percent of the vote
Speaker 3: on the Pine Ridge and also all the other reservations
Speaker 3: Rosebuds standing Rock in North Dakota, but he won all
Speaker 3: of the Sioux vote and it put him over the edge.
Speaker 3: So the last day of his life, he won the
Speaker 3: most rural state in our country, which was South Dakota,
Speaker 3: and the most urban, and it was because of the
Speaker 3: Indian vote. But when he was at Pine Ridge that time,
Speaker 3: this is nineteen sixty eight, he met a woman who
Speaker 3: had been at Custer last and that always impressed me
Speaker 3: a lot, because Cust's sounds like it was, you know,
Speaker 3: a long time ago, but it was only it was
Speaker 3: it was ninety years before. You know, it was in
Speaker 3: eighteen seventy six, oh An wholesoon Nation was at a
Speaker 3: little big Horn river on having a pow wow.
Speaker 1: There were men, women and.
Speaker 3: Children and this little girl was a little girl living
Speaker 3: in a tepee when they went out and killed Kuster,
Speaker 3: and she then met my father when he was running
Speaker 3: for president ninety years later.
Speaker 5: That's unbelievable.
Speaker 2: With you just talked about your uncle and your father
Speaker 2: and both of them passing being assassinated, and the common
Speaker 2: denominators that you said, and with the stories you were
Speaker 2: telling us, everything is like they were standing up for
Speaker 2: something that they wanted them to do. And now you
Speaker 2: sit here trying to be the next president of the
Speaker 2: United States, and there's so many things that you're standing
Speaker 2: up for against these big companies who if you are elected,
Speaker 2: you're going to hurt their pockets a lot. Like where
Speaker 2: all this stuff going on? Like Trump, there's an assassination
Speaker 2: attempt on him. You just now get secret service, Like
Speaker 2: where is the Why is this so big to you? Why?
Speaker 2: Why is this so important that you you're willing to
Speaker 2: put your life at risk.
Speaker 1: I mean, my whole.
Speaker 3: Life has been kind of you know, committed to our country,
Speaker 3: and you know, I just saw it. I felt like,
Speaker 3: you know, the country was going off the rails, and
Speaker 3: and that the people who should know what America is
Speaker 3: supposed to look like like they had forgotten or something.
Speaker 1: And I felt like.
Speaker 3: Somehow all the people that I trusted to take care
Speaker 3: of business were not taking care of it, and that
Speaker 3: I kind of had a unique ability to remind people
Speaker 3: what our country is supposed still look like, that we're
Speaker 3: supposed to be an exemplary nation, that we're supposed to
Speaker 3: protect our constitution, that there's not supposed to be censorship
Speaker 3: of free speech even during pandemics. You're not supposed to
Speaker 3: close down all the churches, You're not supposed to close
Speaker 3: down the businesses. You're not supposed to suspend jury trials,
Speaker 3: all the things that.
Speaker 1: The Constitution guarantees us.
Speaker 3: And then you know, and that we've turned we're turning
Speaker 3: into a warfare estate and it's destroying the American middle.
Speaker 1: Class, and I just see everything.
Speaker 3: I don't want my kids. I want my kids to
Speaker 3: have the same love for our country and hope for
Speaker 3: their futures that I grew up with. It was a
Speaker 3: poll taken in twenty thirteen where they polled American young
Speaker 3: people between eighteen and thirty five, and they asked them,
Speaker 3: are you proud of the United States? And eighty five
Speaker 3: percent said yes? And the same poll taking five months ago,
Speaker 3: only seventeen percent said yes. Oh shit somehow, And the last,
Speaker 3: you know, in the administration, the last two administrations, you
Speaker 3: have an entire generation of kids who has lost their
Speaker 3: pride in America, who are not proud to be Americans, right,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: And you guys grew up proud to.
Speaker 3: Be Americans, right, proud of everything.
Speaker 1: So that to me is heartbreaking. And you know that
Speaker 1: my kids are part of that generation.
Speaker 3: My kids are proud, but they're part of a generation
Speaker 3: that's not only not you know, lost their pride in
Speaker 3: our country, but they've lost.
Speaker 1: Their hope for their own futures.
Speaker 5: And you know, I just feel like I got to
Speaker 5: do something right in the last two weeks. Obviously it's
Speaker 5: been a crazy last couple weeks, but in your opinion,
Speaker 5: like what's happening with the Biden administration. He seemed excited
Speaker 5: to run then all of a sudden, they you know,
Speaker 5: report that he is falling out. Kamala Harris is now
Speaker 5: going to take over what is unfolding on the.
Speaker 3: Let me, I mean, let me ask you guys something
Speaker 3: because you're not focused on politics, but.
Speaker 2: Didn't you I'm scared of this question. You're making me
Speaker 2: go a line and my whole thing is playing.
Speaker 3: This isn't like democratic Republican, but I like I. I
Speaker 3: was not surprised by the bad performance and the debate
Speaker 3: because I was watching just YouTube videos of all of
Speaker 3: these all of these revealing videos that indicated that President
Speaker 3: Biden was having cognitive impairments, that he was you know,
Speaker 3: that he was having some kind of cognitive degeneration. And
Speaker 3: and so I always thought that there, you know, he's
Speaker 3: going to get the debate is going to be a
Speaker 3: bad night for him, because he's okay when he was
Speaker 3: talking with a prompter, but he never did unscripted encounters
Speaker 3: with voters, and he didn't do debates, he didn't do
Speaker 3: town halls, all the things that politicians normally do. They
Speaker 3: kept him from doing that. He had fewer press conferences
Speaker 3: than any president in history during this term. So I
Speaker 3: was not surprised, and it was kind of weird to me.
Speaker 3: That people acted surprise, and then the whole country pivoted
Speaker 3: against the whole media empire pivoted against him and said,
Speaker 3: oh wow, this is a huge shock, And I'm like,
Speaker 3: I was shocked. The thing that shocked me is that
Speaker 3: people were acting shocked. So I don't there's no point
Speaker 3: to this. It's like, it's not a good story.
Speaker 5: But I feel like it was. People weren't necessarily shocked.
Speaker 5: You're kind of tuning in for the entertainment factor. What's
Speaker 5: about to go down?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you expected something like it was like, you know,
Speaker 3: I said this the other day, it was every time
Speaker 3: I saw him on TV, it was like watching your
Speaker 3: five year old play on a jungle gym for the
Speaker 3: first time.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh God, something bad that happen.
Speaker 2: Oh what are your emotions when you see Biden and
Speaker 2: his cognitive function? Because you've I've saw I listened to
Speaker 2: your Rogan podcast, to listen to you on Doctor Phil,
Speaker 2: and you've had a long standing relationship with him. What
Speaker 2: kind of person was Joe Biden twenty thirty years ago
Speaker 2: compared to now?
Speaker 6: He was?
Speaker 3: Well, I look at him now and I feel like
Speaker 3: he's you know, just that he's very he's old and
Speaker 3: people aged differently. I know people who have dementia, and
Speaker 3: I have relatives who have dementia, and he acts like
Speaker 3: somebody who has you know, dementia. Oh, I you know,
Speaker 3: the Joe Biden I knew was a a very very
Speaker 3: sweet man.
Speaker 1: You know, after.
Speaker 3: My cousin Kara died, and you know, my uncle had passed,
Speaker 3: my uncle Teddy already passed, and then his daughter pas
Speaker 3: In Buying, without saying anything to anybody, showed up at
Speaker 3: her funeral and her memorial and stay through the whole thing.
Speaker 1: And you know, I spent the night with the family
Speaker 1: and all that. And he didn't do it.
Speaker 3: He did it just because you know, he had compassion.
Speaker 3: I felt like he was that guy. I felt like
Speaker 3: he was a from his grant in Pennsylvania, that he
Speaker 3: was on the side.
Speaker 1: Of working people.
Speaker 3: And you know, I mean he always had problems with words,
Speaker 3: and he had some challenges during his lifetime with saying
Speaker 3: things that weren't true. But I thought generally speaking that
Speaker 3: he was, you know, committed to high ideals.
Speaker 1: And he's a guy who.
Speaker 3: Spent fifth years in service of the country. And of
Speaker 3: course there's benefits to being in political power there's also
Speaker 3: tremendous sacrifices, and I think both Republicans and Democrats who
Speaker 3: make that choice that it's not an easy way to live.
Speaker 3: It's a really difficult way to live. And most people,
Speaker 3: I think could do you know other stuff that And
Speaker 3: so I respect anybody who makes that choice, even if
Speaker 3: I don't agree with them. That's I think, that's my best.
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Speaker 5: with rfk JR. There were rumors. There were rumors of
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers being your VP. At one point in time,
Speaker 5: was there ever a formal uh invite.
Speaker 1: I talked to him about it. Yeah, I talked to
Speaker 1: him about it.
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 1: You know, I asked him. I asked him, I asked him,
Speaker 1: would he do it? And uh, I really love Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3: I think he's got tremendous courage and.
Speaker 1: He does. He's committed to you know, he's a guy.
Speaker 3: He does critical thinking, and he's he's somebody who you
Speaker 3: guys don't think a lot about politics. He's thinking about
Speaker 3: it all the time. He's you know, skeptical of authority,
Speaker 3: and he is a very very interesting mind. He's fascinating
Speaker 3: to talk to. And uh so I think he would,
Speaker 3: you know, and he's he's curious about everything.
Speaker 1: My uncle.
Speaker 3: When he first met Jackie, who you know he ended
Speaker 3: up marrying. She was a reporter I think it was
Speaker 3: for Harold and she was doing any interview with them,
Speaker 3: and she asked and what he thought his best quality
Speaker 3: was and she assumed that he was going to say
Speaker 3: courage because his own history of you know, demonstrating physical bravery.
Speaker 1: And then he had written a book called Profiles and Courage.
Speaker 3: There was about moral courage among you know, a political
Speaker 3: leaders in our country of political leaders who had made
Speaker 3: choice is that benefited our country and ruined their careers.
Speaker 1: And knowingly did that.
Speaker 3: And he wrote a whole you know, he wrote it's
Speaker 3: a series of stories about these people who torched their
Speaker 3: own careers. And he had won a Pulitzer Prize for that. Look, Oh,
Speaker 3: Jackie assumed that he was going to probably say that
Speaker 3: courage was his strongest, his best, but he said curiosity.
Speaker 3: He said that was his greatest attribute. It's great as
Speaker 3: the virtue that was most important to him politically. And
Speaker 3: I understand why he said that, because it's one of
Speaker 3: the ways that he was able to keep peace, because
Speaker 3: he was he was curious about why how Khrushchev saw
Speaker 3: the world. He was curious about how Castro saw the world.
Speaker 3: He you know, he he ended up with Khrushchev having
Speaker 3: this extraordinary we had. You know, during that time when
Speaker 3: my uncle came into office, the CIA didn't know anything
Speaker 3: about what was happening in the Kremlin because there was
Speaker 3: a mole in Langley and as soon as they got
Speaker 3: a spy, a high level person in the Kremlin, the
Speaker 3: Kremlin would know within days and they'd kill the guy.
Speaker 5: And and so they it was.
Speaker 3: It was just a dark space for them. And they
Speaker 3: the way that they explained what was happening to the
Speaker 3: Kremlin to my uncle, and it was kind of monolithic,
Speaker 3: and they all were bent on world domination and that
Speaker 3: they had a plan and they were all working together.
Speaker 3: And my uncle was like, I don't think that that's possible.
Speaker 3: He said, it's got to be like Boston, where they all,
Speaker 3: you know, are trying to stab each other and they're
Speaker 3: fighting with each other, and they have different world views
Speaker 3: and there's some good ones and some bad ones. And
Speaker 3: he was really curious about it, and he went to
Speaker 3: meet there's a picture here of him in his first
Speaker 3: meeting with Khrushchef in Vienna, and that was at the
Speaker 3: beginning of his presidency and he was very, very hopeful
Speaker 3: of finding.
Speaker 1: A path to peace with Khrushchef.
Speaker 3: A Khrushchef robusted, rebuffed him, and Kruschev was very bombastic,
Speaker 3: and he gave him a lecture on US imperialism and
Speaker 3: said that he wasn't scared the United States and that
Speaker 3: you know, the the Russians had won the war, not
Speaker 3: the United States against the Nazis, which you know was
Speaker 3: pretty true, and that and that they could take any punishment.
Speaker 3: They weren't scared of anything, and sent my uncle away
Speaker 3: really discouraged. And but Khrushev was an interesting guy because
Speaker 3: he had been in the war, he'd been in general
Speaker 3: and he was and he was at the worst battle
Speaker 3: in the war, which was Stalingrad, where they were eating
Speaker 3: each other literally, you know, they were there was widespread cannibalism.
Speaker 3: They ate the dogs, they ate the horses, and then
Speaker 3: they started eating each other. And he saw things that
Speaker 3: you know, nobody you know, just terrible, terrible things. He
Speaker 3: didn't won another war, and and Russia had lost one
Speaker 3: out of every seven of its citizens during that war.
Speaker 3: Russians just you know, took the full brunt of Hitler.
Speaker 3: And then after the Cuban midsk the confrontation at Checkpoint Charlie,
Speaker 3: which is there were two tank battalions that were facing
Speaker 3: each other off on the when they were building when
Speaker 3: the Russians were building the Berlin Wall, because all of them,
Speaker 3: the Germans from the part of Russia that was occupied
Speaker 3: East Germany, which was occupied by the Soviets, they all
Speaker 3: wanted to get out to the US side, and so
Speaker 3: they were coming over and so the Russian solved that
Speaker 3: problem by building a wall, you know, this terrible wall
Speaker 3: at last until nineteen ninety three. And during that period,
Speaker 3: a US general named Lucius Clay.
Speaker 1: Put bulldozer plows.
Speaker 3: On the front of tanks and then went to plow
Speaker 3: down the wall, and Russian Tank Division met him on
Speaker 3: the other side at a crossing called Checkpoint Charlie. And
Speaker 3: we were moments away from nuclear confrontation, and my uncle
Speaker 3: sent a message to Khruschef and Khrushchef said, my back
Speaker 3: is to the wall.
Speaker 1: He said, we got it.
Speaker 3: We got My uncle said, we got to solve this.
Speaker 3: We cannot start bombing each other. And Khrushchev said, my
Speaker 3: back is to a wall. I cannot go farther back.
Speaker 3: And what he was saying to my uncle is, I'm
Speaker 3: surrounded by people here who want this, and I'm limited
Speaker 3: in what I agree with you. I don't want this war,
Speaker 3: but you got to help me somehow. And they ended
Speaker 3: up helping each other to solve that crisis, and after
Speaker 3: that they developed this relationship with trust and we had
Speaker 3: what I was growing up, my parents had a There
Speaker 3: was a Soviet spy who was He worked for the
Speaker 3: gru which is the military spy agency.
Speaker 1: And for the KGB.
Speaker 3: And this was the time the first James Bond film
Speaker 3: started coming out, So you know, we knew all about
Speaker 3: Russian spies because they.
Speaker 1: Were in the James Bond films, and.
Speaker 3: So we were very excited when my parents began bringing
Speaker 3: this guy to our house. His names is Georgie Bolskoys
Speaker 3: and they had met him at the Soviet embassy at
Speaker 3: a party, and he was very charming.
Speaker 1: He was kind of a squat. He was a real athlete.
Speaker 3: He could climb a rope with his legs stuck out
Speaker 3: like that. He would do push up contest with my father.
Speaker 1: He could do the Cossack dancing where you know, he'd say,
Speaker 1: get on the table, which is very hard to do.
Speaker 1: It looks yeah, were you in an ac.
Speaker 2: Yeah a cl then another one yeah two years later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you can't do it, but I can't do it,
Speaker 1: and I can.
Speaker 2: Watch and appreciate the O. I know, we've got to
Speaker 2: get you out of here in just a few minutes.
Speaker 3: Anyway, he was finished telling this real quick. I asked,
Speaker 3: which is that Georgie Bolshkoy.
Speaker 2: My parents.
Speaker 3: The State Department hated the fact that my parents were
Speaker 3: seeing we're having a Soviet spy at their home. We
Speaker 3: all loved him, and they loved him because he was
Speaker 3: really joyful and he was buoyant, and but a Khrushchef
Speaker 3: trusted him, and my uncle trusted him. And Khrushcheff began
Speaker 3: smuggling letters to my uncle. And the first letter he
Speaker 3: sent him, and he sent in a New York Times
Speaker 3: was Georgie Bolshkoy folded the letter into New York Times
Speaker 3: and smuggled with my father, And the first letter apologized
Speaker 3: for what he had done in Vienna and said, we
Speaker 3: got off to a bad start. And he said, I'm
Speaker 3: sitting in my dutcha on the Black Sea, and I'm
Speaker 3: watching children play, and I'm thinking, we don't have a
Speaker 3: right to kill these children. And my uncle then sent
Speaker 3: him back a letter saying, I'm sport watching my nieces
Speaker 3: and nephews play with my children, and you know, they
Speaker 3: have a right to grow up, to write poetry and
Speaker 3: to play baseball and to you know, be political leaders
Speaker 3: and this, and if we blow it for them, it's
Speaker 3: our crime. And they started writing each other, and they
Speaker 3: hid it from their own intelligence apparatus, their own they
Speaker 3: were both realized they were surrounded by warhawks and intelligence
Speaker 3: apparatus in the military, and that they were isolated in
Speaker 3: their own governments, and that they found each other and
Speaker 3: that they had to keep the countries.
Speaker 1: Out of the war.
Speaker 3: And you know, and they wrote twenty six letters to
Speaker 3: each other. The last one was sent the day by
Speaker 3: Krushev the way the day that my uncle died, and
Speaker 3: they had made were making plans to end the arms race,
Speaker 3: only to get rid of all the nuclear weapons and
Speaker 3: to join each other in making the world better for humanity.
Speaker 3: And you know, kruse Chef was proposed right after my
Speaker 3: uncle was I was murdered. But it was because of
Speaker 3: my uncle's capacity for curiosity that he just could not
Speaker 3: believe that khru Chef was the sinister, evil character that
Speaker 3: have been made. That he had to be more multi
Speaker 3: dimensional than that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been portrayed us honestly, I know we've got
Speaker 2: to get you out of here, and but I wish
Speaker 2: we could. Is that how we want to spend our
Speaker 2: last five minutes? Five? Do we have five to two minutes?
Speaker 2: So we have we have two minutes. I would love
Speaker 2: to have literally two more hours, like just listening and
Speaker 2: sitting and kind of learning about what it's like going
Speaker 2: up as Kennedy, your uncle, your dad, the things they've
Speaker 2: gone through, the things you've gone through, has been amazing.
Speaker 2: And I know that with these long form podcasts you
Speaker 2: really believes the new form of media where people get
Speaker 2: to learn different views instead of just the mainstream media.
Speaker 2: So people that are listening to you right now for
Speaker 2: the first time, what would be the message that you
Speaker 2: would want to send to them?
Speaker 3: I mean I had to ask them, go look at
Speaker 3: our website at Kennedy twenty four dot com, and don't
Speaker 3: vote out of fear. Don't vote because you think that
Speaker 3: guy is going to end the Republic, So you have
Speaker 3: to vote for your guy or this guy. But if
Speaker 3: Americans vote for Hope, I have the highest favorability rating
Speaker 3: of any candidate who is running, higher than President Trump,
Speaker 3: high than President than Cammel, much higher than either of them.
Speaker 3: People voted for the person they want to vote for
Speaker 3: a win. Most Americans now are being taught to vote
Speaker 3: for out of fear. If you if you vote for Bobby,
Speaker 3: it's a wasted vote. So you've got to vote for
Speaker 3: Trump or Biden. And eighty five percent of Americans don't
Speaker 3: want to vote for either. And my job is, you know,
Speaker 3: over the next four months, is to convince people to
Speaker 3: vote out of hope and out of inspiration and out
Speaker 3: of you know, belief in our country rather than out
Speaker 3: of fear. I would ask people to go to Kennedy
Speaker 3: for dot com look at our positions on the issues
Speaker 3: We've tried to what I've tried to. I don't feed
Speaker 3: into the vitrio all to the marginalization. I don't the polarization.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't attack President Trump or President Biden.
Speaker 3: I talk about their issues where they're wrong, but personally
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: Attack them.
Speaker 3: And I you know, I've tried to find the issues
Speaker 3: that the values that unite us all as Americans rather
Speaker 3: than focusing on the culture war issues that are used
Speaker 3: to keep us at each other's throats. And you know,
Speaker 3: those landscapes of things that we share in common America
Speaker 3: are so much broader and the little stuff that you
Speaker 3: know is orchestrated to keep us apart.
Speaker 5: Man, thank you for coming on. This has been an honor.
Speaker 5: This is obviously a big year for our country, for
Speaker 5: Nebraska going after the Big ten title, and then we
Speaker 5: really appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 2: We do appreciate you coming on this. This has been
Speaker 2: a very cool experience.
Speaker 1: I'm just a way for a year.
Speaker 4: Ten sty.
Speaker 5: You already know that.
Speaker 2: You just lost a vote from me. Yes, sir, you
Speaker 2: know we needed that boy man who plugged that in
Speaker 2: your ear before you walked in.
Speaker 5: He's a fan washing washing you know what.
Speaker 2: I got a good team. He's got a good group
Speaker 2: of boys behind them.
Speaker 5: Huh. He watched he watched the boy. He watched the
Speaker 5: boy back when I played from Washington.
Speaker 2: Yeah, captain, Yeah, captain, captain of the team. We do
Speaker 2: appreciate this. This is awesome, you know. I mean this
Speaker 2: bus starting the gravel parking lot on a hot spot
Speaker 2: and stealing power from an RV company and to be
Speaker 2: sitting here with you is pretty cool. So we really
Speaker 2: appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. It's really fun talking to you guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are the stories. It was unbelievable.
Speaker 5: We need to get out on that obstacle course.
Speaker 2: It sounds like, yeah, Kennedy Compound next podcast.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll be there.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys. Subscribe to five Stars. We'll talk to
Speaker 2: you soon.
Speaker 5: I know you guys. Got to Joe Fastcau we do
Speaker 5: one team photo, Yeah, one team photo, one squad photo.
Speaker 2: Do we do it in here? M hm