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Speaker 1: This is one Bill's Live presented by Kalida Help.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we are. It's Thursday. Now we're a

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Speaker 2: training camp for day seven, and boy has it gotten

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Speaker 2: cooler here at Saint John Fisher.

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Speaker 1: Freezing over here. I'm either swimming in my own sweat

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Speaker 1: or I've got a jacket on because it's so cold.

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Speaker 1: What are we doing?

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Speaker 2: It's low seventies here today, a much needed respite from

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Speaker 2: the heat we have had through the first five or

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Speaker 2: six days of training camp practices. Rainstorm came through last

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Speaker 2: night and this morning, which is why we have rain gearon,

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Speaker 2: because it was still drizzling at the start of practice,

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Speaker 2: but it then tapered off and they were able to

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Speaker 2: get a session in. Ye it was good again. The

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Speaker 2: two minute drill was done at half speed because of

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Speaker 2: the shortness of bodies available for practice, and we should

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Speaker 2: probably get to that first and foremost not practicing today.

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Speaker 2: Curtis Samuel, Caden Prather, Dion Dawkins, Greg Russod Kwon Jones

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Speaker 2: all had veteran rest days. Spencer Brown still not back.

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Speaker 2: Alec Anderson, whose wife on Instagram revealed that he had

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Speaker 2: his knee scoped. He had a knee injury. He's had

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Speaker 2: that scoped and is considered week to week by the

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Speaker 2: Bill's coaching staff, So that's new development. Terrell Bernard is

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Speaker 2: still out with the hamstring, Dorian Williams with the lower

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Speaker 2: leg strain, Max Hairston obviously going to be out for

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Speaker 2: a few weeks with the LCL sprain, and Cole Bishop

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Speaker 2: not practicing today due to a quad injury. The good

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Speaker 2: news is ty Johnson, who got shaken up in practice yesterday,

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Speaker 2: back out there today. kJ Hamler back practicing, Elijah Moore

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Speaker 2: back practicing, Tyrrell Shavers back practicing after the ankle injury

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Speaker 2: last Sunday, and Dwayne Carter back practicing, and the biggest

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Speaker 2: one for the first time in training camp, Dawson Knox practiced,

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Speaker 2: albeit on a limited basis. That's a long list.

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Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, it kind of shrugged your shoulders. It's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: None of this worries me or concerns me until we

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Speaker 1: get about three or four weeks further down.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Max Harrison's thing. I think the minimum is going to

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Speaker 1: be three weeks. I think he might be little more

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Speaker 1: than that. Who knows, it's you know, and all these

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Speaker 1: other things that you've been mentioning. I mean, even you

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Speaker 1: know Cold Bishop's squad, I don't it wasn't. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's a poll or it's just got bumped

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Speaker 1: or got you know, contusion. Who knows, But you know,

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Speaker 1: all this stuff, that's just what you go through, how

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Speaker 1: they handle the reps, and you and I kind of

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Speaker 1: benefit from this. And it sounds crazy because we get

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Speaker 1: to see the depth chart right before our eyes because

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Speaker 1: when Cold Bishop goes down, next guy up is you know, uh,

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Speaker 1: the guy you know we're looking for. So it's it's

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Speaker 1: telling when these injuries happened because it forces them, forces

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Speaker 1: them to show us who the next guy in line is.

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Speaker 1: And you know, Shaq Thompson's gonna be maybe fourth, third

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Speaker 1: It's it's really interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were talking about him yesterday and how just

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Speaker 2: ten months removed from achilles surgery, he is moving very

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Speaker 2: well for a guy on the wrong side of thirty.

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Speaker 2: His recovery has been remarkable. So to see the way

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Speaker 2: he is playing, moving, sprinting, it's impressive and I think

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Speaker 2: it's impressed the coaching staff, as evidenced by the time

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Speaker 2: he's getting on the field, he's getting rotated in for

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Speaker 2: reps with the ones, and look, Dorian Williams is not

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Speaker 2: Maybe that changes when those two guys come back, but

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Speaker 2: right now, he's clearly in the top five. He's clearly

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Speaker 2: You know, maybe he's not quite ready to be on

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Speaker 2: Maybe we put him on the practice squad and maybe

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Speaker 2: second half of the year if we have some injuries.

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Speaker 2: Here's a veteran player we can rely on. Now he's

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Speaker 2: in camp and he's running around making plays, and it's like,

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Speaker 2: holy cow, we're getting more than we signed up for.

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Speaker 1: He is, Yeah, he and and and also Buffalo Joe

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Speaker 2: He'll be in the running, he's a job, he's a fixture.

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Speaker 1: So uh, all that stuff going on, it's it's interesting

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Speaker 1: But the list, the injury list. While it does, it's

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Speaker 1: But for the coaching staff and for the evaluation process,

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Speaker 2: Seven on seven red zone early in practice, Kean Coleman

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Speaker 2: Trying to see force today, I think we're seeing more

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Speaker 1: I think the key thing because that was a throw,

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Speaker 1: And those are the kind of plays that exact kind

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was an extended low red zone period eleven

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of snaps that they took and and

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Speaker 1: it was physical down inside. They both ran and passed.

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Speaker 1: There was no it wasn't like a pass only drill

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Speaker 1: was you're right, Brownie. That was a that was a

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Speaker 2: Of the turning some touchdowns in during that session. Khalil

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Speaker 2: from about five yards out. We also saw Stephen Gosnell score,

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Speaker 2: the undrafted rookie receiver. Who else do I have on

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Speaker 1: Jackson Dawes Hawes caught it.

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Speaker 2: Jackson Hawes caught a touchdown, Dalton Kincaid a touchdown, and

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Speaker 2: the undrafted rookie receiver, had a touchdown. So that's kinda

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Speaker 2: who scored during that period. I'm kind of looking at

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Speaker 2: some of the pass breakups that were made and let's

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Speaker 2: see here, Well, there was a pass interference.

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Speaker 2: It was Dorian Strom with a pass breakup on a

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Speaker 2: run stuff by day Kwon Hardy, who came from his

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Speaker 2: the cornerbacks coach, after making that play, and then Dion

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Speaker 2: Cain had a touchdown and Frank Gore ran one in.

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Speaker 2: during that low red zone period.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was a lot going on.

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Speaker 2: That was essentially it though, because once again, because the

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Speaker 2: numbers are so low with all these injuries, they ran

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Speaker 2: half speed. Right, ran in at half speed, which takes

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Speaker 2: making quick decisions.

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Speaker 1: It turns into an academic excesses rather than a practice.

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Speaker 1: But you know it still it has some value, but

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Speaker 1: you're you're a prisoner to the numbers, and you know

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Speaker 1: right now they're just trying to get through that practice

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Speaker 1: It's a little better than a walk through, but not much.

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Speaker 2: Jam pack show for you today in about twenty minutes time,

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Speaker 2: we're going to catch up with day Kwon Jones had

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Speaker 2: a vet rest day, but want to tap into what

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Speaker 2: he you seeing with the very new looking defensive line

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Speaker 2: catch up with Daiquon on that, and then second hour

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Speaker 2: of the show. ESPN NFL analyst Ben Solek is visiting

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Speaker 2: Bill's training camp, so we'll have him stop by and

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Speaker 2: talk to him about, you know, his outlook for this team,

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Speaker 2: and I want to ask him who he thinks can

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Speaker 2: be forced multipliers for the offense and defense and see

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Speaker 2: if he has any names in mind for that. So

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Speaker 1: Are you uh Are you gonna take time out towards

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game tonight?

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. Trey Lance is starting for the

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Speaker 2: Chargers now, Justin Herbert is I don't like I don't

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna watch it's Do you remember last year's

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game? I do not.

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Speaker 2: It was horrible.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's preseason football, You're all like, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: the same old thing every year. You're like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: go bud here, let's go league.

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Speaker 2: You watching caiss like, we're not there.

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Speaker 1: Who is that?

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Speaker 2: Who's that guy?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What you've got number? Got number forty nine? Who is that? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And it's a tight end. Yeah, it's unbelievab Who is that?

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Speaker 2: No interest?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, all right, that's fine. There was a you're

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Speaker 1: not required to like football.

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Speaker 2: I guess there was a transaction for the Bills today.

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Speaker 2: They signed defensive end Cameron Kleine and waved injured defensive

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Speaker 2: end Hayden Harris. Uh Klein has been on the practice

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Speaker 2: squad each of the last two years. He's also played

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Speaker 2: some CFL ball the last several years, so he is

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Speaker 2: back in the fold. With Harris sustaining an injury. We'll

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Speaker 2: see if Harris clears waivers. I would imagine he will,

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Speaker 2: and then he'll revert to injured reserve here with Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: And we should remind everybody tomorrow is the return of

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Speaker 2: the Blue and Red at high Mark Stadium one Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 2: The team will practice tomorrow in the stadium at five

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Speaker 2: thirty pm.

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Speaker 1: One person was clapping for that. Jay Harris ours clapping

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Speaker 2: Let's go around the NFL presented by Kalata Healthy, official

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Speaker 2: healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. And Noah Fant, the

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Speaker 1: breathing too, which is an added layer of benefits. So yeah,

434
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Speaker 1: it's okay. I don't know if I need Michael Phelps

435
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: to get me out there to flop around, but he's.

436
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Speaker 2: From Baltimore, so he's right there in their backyard.

437
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Speaker 1: So uh.

438
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 2: Falcons first round pass rusher Jalen Walker hamstring injury, out,

439
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 2: not practicing, so we'll see how long that lasts for him.

440
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 2: That's the Patriots, just.

441
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: Like the Bills. Though everybody's got a string injury.

442
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: The Patriots activated wide receiver Mac Collins from the pup list,

443
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 2: so he's now practicing with his new Patriots teammates after

444
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 2: signing a deal with them, and the Chargers and Lions,

445
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Speaker 2: as Steve mentioned, will be kicking off the preseason tonight

446
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame Game in Canton, Ohio, so

447
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 2: that is around the NFL.

448
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 1: Voice of the Buffalo Bills will not be watching. I

449
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 1: will not be watching because he doesn't like football. Well,

450
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Speaker 1: I don't like that game. You want me to say,

451
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Speaker 1: you want me to say it, I don't like that game. Well, yeah,

452
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: first game I ever played in as a pro is

453
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Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame game.

454
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Speaker 2: Yep, same thing with Eric Wood. Yeah, that was awesome

455
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 2: two thousand and nine. When two thousand and nine when

456
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Speaker 2: Bruce and mister Wilson went in, That's when.

457
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Speaker 1: Mine was nineteen eighty five.

458
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 2: And then twenty twenty fourteen the Bills went back to

459
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Speaker 2: play in the Hall of Fame game, because I think

460
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Speaker 2: that was the year Andre went in.

461
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Speaker 1: Oh, I played in eighty nine with the Bills. The

462
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: Bills were in the game in eighty nine.

463
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Speaker 2: Was that the Uh that must have been the Billy

464
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Speaker 2: Shaw induction.

465
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Speaker 1: Yes, I went it in eighty five. Listen to this.

466
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Speaker 1: I think I think I got this right. I might

467
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Speaker 1: not be wrong. I think it was Joe Namath, oh,

468
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: Roger Staubach, Terry Bradshaw, Juice OJ and Dick Bradsky, a

469
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Speaker 1: defensive end from the old forty nine er days, back

470
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Speaker 1: in the fifties. An older guy got it. That's a class.

471
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Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. I was like, wow it, yeah, I gotta,

472
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Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta. I'm gonna look that up.

473
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Speaker 2: For you on the recall them all right, think about that.

474
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Speaker 1: Did I get it right? Okay? Cool? It was. I

475
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Speaker 1: was like, Wow, this is these guys are this is

476
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Speaker 1: quite the class. I wonder if every class is like this.

477
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Speaker 5: It's not.

478
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Speaker 1: But no, man, that was Bradshaw, Stopbach, Joe namathj oj

479
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: and Nick Bradsky, Frank Bradsky. Frank, Yeah, I didn't. I

480
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: didn't know that guy, had never heard him play. He

481
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: was playing before I was like in the sixties, fifties

482
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: and sixties. Yeah, so quite the class, I would say.

483
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, I was, Yeah, I was. We got I

484
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 1: was sitting there stretching with the Houston Oilers and I

485
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: looked like a sixth grader stretching looking you know, you

486
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: look good. I was, you know, it was just I

487
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: was kind of looking around, like okay, okay. Then we

488
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: were playing the New York Football Giants and it was

489
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Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor's second season, just coming out. They come out

490
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: single file, run out and run across. And I'd seen

491
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor on TV and playing how fast he wasn't

492
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Speaker 1: He was like, man, I'm too.

493
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Speaker 2: Little, I'm not gonna last.

494
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Speaker 1: I got no shot at this. We have to take

495
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Speaker 1: a break, something about looking good getting off the bus YEP.

496
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 2: We have to take a break. But when we come back,

497
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 2: sitting between us will be Bill's twelfth year Defensive tackle Day.

498
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 2: Kwan Jones, he'll join us here to talk about the

499
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 2: D line group because it is a much different group

500
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 2: than the one he was with last year. So we'll

501
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 2: talk to him about all the changes. Who's looking good

502
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Speaker 2: when we return here on One Bill's Live presented by

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Speaker 2: Cold of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Well, welcome back

504
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 2: to our training camp coverage here at Saint John Fisher University.

505
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker here on One Bill's Live along

506
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Speaker 2: with the Pride of Johnson City, New York. It is

507
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Speaker 2: one Day. Kwan Jones joining us here. Hey, one of

508
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 2: the New York state natives on this roster. We got

509
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 2: to mention that you know every time, especially you know,

510
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: being here in Rochester, some people may have made the

511
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 2: drive up from there. Who knows. Day, Kwan, you took

512
00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 2: a vent rest day today. And I wanna understand this

513
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 2: because you know, obviously there's a sports science department here.

514
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 2: Is this totally at your discretion when you want the

515
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: vet rest day to take place or do Sometimes the

516
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: sports science people or the training people come up to

517
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 2: you and say, hey, you've had a high exertion rate

518
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 2: the last two or three days of practice. You may

519
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 2: want to consider a vet rest day here coming up.

520
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean they they kind of ask me how

521
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 6: I want to do it, and I just tell them

522
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Speaker 6: I'll leave up to them.

523
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't want I don't want no part in that.

524
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Speaker 6: And so I'll notify the day that I'll have today

525
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Speaker 6: off and so kind of just give me an extra

526
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 6: day to kind.

527
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Speaker 4: Of get the best.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

529
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Speaker 2: You know, so they're monitoring you and your exertion rate

530
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 2: and how much your tax and your muscles for sure.

531
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Speaker 4: I mean I got a limited my reps on my body.

532
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Speaker 5: You're a twelve.

533
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Speaker 4: You got to take care of you.

534
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Speaker 1: Let the fresh legs do it.

535
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they gotta go out there and a.

536
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Speaker 1: Lot of new faces in your room. Tell me how

537
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Speaker 1: that's going?

538
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Speaker 4: Really well?

539
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Speaker 6: I think, you know, well, all the all the coaches

540
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 6: be having in there, they're all jelling pretty well, and

541
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 6: they're all getting everyone, you know, kind of caught up

542
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 6: and you know, on the same page, and you know

543
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 6: TJ and Dion and you know everyone else. I mean

544
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 6: they're out there just out there playing great ball right now.

545
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 6: I think they're picking up what the coach of a

546
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 6: way and what the scheme won and right now is

547
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 6: just kind of building that rhythm.

548
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Speaker 1: What about guys like like Joey the veteran, he's been there,

549
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: he's been around the block a couple of times. He's

550
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Speaker 1: he's a new guy in and then as long as

551
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Speaker 1: as well as the draft picks and young guys in there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean Joey, I think he's doing a good

553
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 6: job too. I mean he's, you know, a savvy vet guy,

554
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Speaker 6: and you know, seeing how he go out there in

555
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 6: practice and kind of like if helping the young guys

556
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 6: but with technique stuff. It's kind of cool to watch

557
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Speaker 6: and just seeing the difference between that, you know, having

558
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Speaker 6: like Bond last year and have him this year. It's

559
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,719
Speaker 6: kind of pretty cool to see two of you know,

560
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 6: the league, the leaf at that at that position kind

561
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 6: of you know, teach the guys in their own different ways,

562
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Speaker 6: and it's kind of cool with you're seeing that.

563
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Speaker 2: You having eleven years under your belt, you know, don't

564
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: get too bad out of shape. You know, if there's

565
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: a defensive coordinator screaming his head off like Bobby Will

566
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: at practice, but for a rookie, it's unnerving. They don't

567
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 2: want to, you know, they don't want to mess up.

568
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: They don't want to be the target of the yelling.

569
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Speaker 2: So I'm sure there are times out on the practice

570
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 2: field where there will there'll be a young teammate of

571
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Speaker 2: yours that is gripping because he doesn't want to mess

572
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Speaker 2: up on the rep he gets, and maybe that compromises

573
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Speaker 2: his ability to just play fast and flow to the

574
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Speaker 2: ball or whatever his assignment is on a given play.

575
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Speaker 2: What would be your advice to a to a young

576
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Speaker 2: player like that who is maybe a little too concerned

577
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Speaker 2: about screwing up instead of just playing fast.

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Speaker 6: Uh, just take take with coachable, take the coachable knowledge

579
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Speaker 6: of it. Whatever, whatever the message is, if you mus

580
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 6: have going to play, he what he has to say

581
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 6: and everything else, kind of just flush it and move

582
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Speaker 6: on to the next play. I mean, if he sit

583
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Speaker 6: there at Harbon, the volume of of what he's yelling

584
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Speaker 6: at or or or the demeanor and all, I feel

585
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Speaker 6: like you're gonna be too caught up and not focused

586
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 6: on the next play, and not you gonna you know,

587
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Speaker 6: keep stacking a negative play. So just take the take

588
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Speaker 6: the Lennen point from from the message and flush it

589
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 6: and kind of just carry on and and you know, really,

590
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 6: one one bad play is not gonna, you know, determine

591
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Speaker 6: a good practice. You can everything else right all day

592
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Speaker 6: and he might get even that one.

593
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Speaker 4: Play, but you had a great practice you got.

594
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Speaker 1: So you got a defensive coordinator. Bob Babbage second year.

595
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Speaker 1: What do you notice different about him? Probably just the

596
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Speaker 1: really Bobby Bobby Bobby.

597
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Speaker 6: I mean he's kind of the same guy every day,

598
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Speaker 6: and you got to respect that because you know, you

599
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 6: don't want someone who's gonna be different day to day

600
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Speaker 6: or even year the year. I mean, the same guy

601
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Speaker 6: last year. Just I think just probably be more comfortable

602
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Speaker 6: and and being in that role and being able to

603
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Speaker 6: just really coach everybody. At the same time, I.

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Speaker 1: Asked you about the new faces, and I was kind

605
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Speaker 1: of talking about the players. You first thing you brought

606
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: up was the coaches. How's you know Jason Rebovich, those guys,

607
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: how is that active mating?

608
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 2: And Neil a new voice?

609
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Speaker 1: Nielsen's in there, new voices in there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean its freshing things up. Yeah. I think

611
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Speaker 4: I think it's a good good fit for us.

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Speaker 6: I mean there's a lot of knowledge and having them

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Speaker 6: and I think Ryan's doing a great job of just

614
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Speaker 6: teaching us you know, the kind of new techniques of

615
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 6: of what we're doing here, and you know, having nothing

616
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 6: but you know, positive, positive things say about the guy.

617
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Speaker 6: So I mean, I I'm looking forward to kind of,

618
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 6: you know, continue to build that relationship with him, you know,

619
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Speaker 6: going to the season and you know, I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: You know that you're not gonna have Larry and Mike

621
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Speaker 1: for the first six weeks.

622
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: They'll be out on suspension, on a reserve list. So

623
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 2: logic says you're gonna have to tap into those young

624
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: guys even more to be behind you in the rotation.

625
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 2: How do you, maybe as a veteran teammate, help to

626
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Speaker 2: ensure that those young guys are up to speed when

627
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: the real bullets are flying in September? What how can

628
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 2: you assist in that effort that the coaches are trying

629
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Speaker 2: to get those guys ready, knowing they're probably gonna need

630
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Speaker 2: them early on.

631
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think just trying to alleviate as

632
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 6: much stress they as they can and kind of just

633
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 6: help them build that confidence up and that confidence in

634
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Speaker 6: themselves and their ability to go out there and play

635
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 6: and hey, hey you got you got to do it

636
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 6: at one of the highest levels in college, and it

637
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 6: really just got to sit there.

638
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 4: And translated up to the field over here and.

639
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 6: Kind of just a lot of that is just taking

640
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 6: away that player performance anxiety and telling them that you know,

641
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 6: they're okay, I got your back, We all end the room,

642
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 6: got your back, and you know, coach is gonna be

643
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 6: hard on your tough on you early on and kind

644
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 6: of the same kind of anth and earlier just kind

645
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 6: of fush, fush the bad, take the good, take the

646
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 6: running point from and move on.

647
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Speaker 1: What's the you know, earliest you know, signs of how

648
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: the coaching stat what's there been their message about how

649
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: they're gonna handle Hoyt and Ogin Jobi and those guys

650
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: being out and plus that, you guys, what's their overall

651
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: message been. Plus it's gotta it's got to affect their

652
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: rep and their rotation at this point of the season, thinking,

653
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: you know, those guys aren't gonna be here, but we

654
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: also got to find out get everybody well loubed for

655
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: the season. You know, they got to get the got

656
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: get the rust off the whole thing. How are they

657
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: gonna handle that going into the first six weeks of

658
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: the season, knowing that they got to kind of a

659
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Speaker 1: curveball to deal with.

660
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I haven't really heard anything about it

661
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 6: from the coaches with you, and you know that's neither

662
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 6: do I want to, you know, I'll just kind of

663
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 6: just worry about what I can worry about and people

664
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 6: who are you know, up there playing and can help us.

665
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 6: And but right now I went up to gain a rep.

666
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 6: Everyone's trying to learn the defense and trying to have

667
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 6: this team win. And when we took up, going into

668
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 6: a coach to have a plan and had everything kind

669
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 6: of you know, fan motion, so that we can you know,

670
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 6: not sible beat.

671
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Speaker 1: I don't have to tell you Ja Kwan, but for

672
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: our listening audience, you guys were unbelievable.

673
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 2: At taking the ball away last season. But I know

674
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: you guys weren't happy with how you performed on third

675
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: down in terms of getting off the field last year

676
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 2: as a collective group, and I would imagine your sack

677
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 2: total as a team wasn't where you wanted it to

678
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 2: be last year. So what what sticks in your crawl

679
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 2: most about last year that you want to correct, fix

680
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 2: and prove to the rest of the league. They were

681
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: a lot better in this area than you might think

682
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 2: we are.

683
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's just coming coming down to one

684
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 6: for us as a group to have that mindset of

685
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 6: of what we wanted the defense and uh, you know

686
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 6: what's our identity gonna be going to the season. And

687
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 6: you know, for me it's just like you know, I

688
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 6: can only speak for my position group, but you know,

689
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 6: going into a playoff game and versus the chief everyone

690
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 6: you know with the D line, this Dlon that so

691
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 6: really just trying to echo into in the D line

692
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 6: room of having that message in that mindset that when

693
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 6: we go out there, like I don't care who they are,

694
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 6: they ain't going on the ball. I want us to

695
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 6: keep the you know, keep the lot of boxes and

696
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 6: and put that out the D lin and knowing that

697
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 6: we we don't expect to help from anybody, and we're

698
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 6: gonna stop it with these with these four and I

699
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 6: think the first couple of the practice we have we

700
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 6: have really shown that the attitude, the mentality of fun and.

701
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 4: We got to keep that going.

702
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 6: And as far as third down goes, I mean, that's

703
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 6: that's Bobby's baby, you know what I mean. So like

704
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 6: if it comes down to you know, what what he

705
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 6: wants to do and how he wants to type people,

706
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 6: and then the guy's on the field that really get

707
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 6: into playbooks and knowing the situations, knowing the you know,

708
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 6: the football situation and awareness of what's going on, and

709
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 6: then what situation when they we're.

710
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Speaker 4: In and be able to really go out there and

711
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 4: execute and stop the play the when you stop.

712
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: So, if it was left up to you, how much

713
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 1: do you play in the preseason? Oh, I put you

714
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: on the You don't want to say, like play everybody,

715
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: because they might make you play every place. That's not

716
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:01,959
Speaker 1: gonna happen.

717
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: We know that just by the way coach has run it. Yeah,

718
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: I mean he doesn't overtaxt the vets.

719
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Speaker 4: He doesn't know he does. He does a great job

720
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 4: of that. But I mean really just to kind of.

721
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Speaker 6: Make sure I understand what we're doing and far like

722
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 6: the technique and stuff, and then I feel comfortable with it.

723
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 6: So like, I don't know what that looks like or

724
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Speaker 6: how many games or how many play that that would be,

725
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 6: but hopefully before that point, I'm very comfortable with it.

726
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 6: So I don't know, we'll see, like the first game,

727
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 6: how I feel out there and and and be in

728
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 6: cent in situations and if I'm not comfortable the I'm

729
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 6: probably just asked to play a little more.

730
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 4: And you know, do I get it right?

731
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 2: You've been around a lot of I mean, you're a

732
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: big human yourself, and you've been all round a lot

733
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: of other big humans and you're eleven years in the league.

734
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 2: Dion Walker's he's a real big human like and I

735
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 2: realize he's a rookie. He's got a lot to learn.

736
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: Is it tantalizing to think that, you know, there's a

737
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 2: guy that can really you know, you're talking to out

738
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 2: nobody's running on us. You put that guy out there

739
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 2: like next to you on a third and short, it's

740
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 2: gonna be pretty hard for a team to run on

741
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: you guys. You know what I mean?

742
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean.

743
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 6: Walking up on him in the first one time I

744
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 6: met him on his side is crazy. And uh, when

745
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 6: you see him just work, he work, I think, I mean,

746
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 6: he go out to he grinds, you know what I mean.

747
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 6: And being that big and be able to move that

748
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 6: quickly is it's like a rare trait. And I can't

749
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 6: remember is that how Like you know Drick Brown Open

750
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 6: Carolina was okay, like a little bigger guy, but like

751
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 6: a real quickly his feet. I mean, he could be

752
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 6: a very special player in this league once he understands, like,

753
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 6: you know, how to be a pro and you know,

754
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 6: really take care of his body and then you know

755
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 6: and learn like the chicks of the trade that think

756
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:42,959
Speaker 6: would be a really good player.

757
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: Last one for me, I know you you gave his

758
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: synopsis about what the defense is, who you're gonna be,

759
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 1: and how hard you're working. What do you notice about

760
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: the other side of the ball, what are those what's

761
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: going to be different about that.

762
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 2: Side that that you've noticed?

763
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: If anything?

764
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 6: You know, I've been so locked in on on on us,

765
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 6: I haven't really been no I give good feedback on

766
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 6: back and forth, but I mean they're a fame tough

767
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 6: group that I respected last year and how they came together.

768
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 6: I feel like they kind of just are continuing that.

769
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 4: But I you know, maybe I think you're doing a

770
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 4: good job overall.

771
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 6: I'm not going to take any front while I think

772
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 6: by thin our monsters of defense the first couple of

773
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 6: days of pads on had really just kind of overlooked

774
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 6: all that stuff from my personal perspective, and I would

775
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 6: you worry about ourselves right now going out there trying

776
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 6: to be the most dominant you know, goog.

777
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 4: We can be.

778
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 6: So I really don't have a great answer for that,

779
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 6: but I mean from practicing, they're still out there making

780
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 6: players and doing the job and you know, creating and

781
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 6: holding the run game, and we just have to go

782
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 6: out there and you continue a defense to stopping that up.

783
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: So and I don't know what the practice tape is

784
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 2: telling you, guys, evaluation wise, but just from the naked

785
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 2: eye here only getting to watch it one time through

786
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 2: these three padded practices, it seems not that this is

787
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: your only job as guys up front, but it seems

788
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: you're freeing up your linebackers to run and hit. And

789
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 2: I have to stand that's not your assignment on every play,

790
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 2: but in certain run plays, like nobody's getting to the

791
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: second level, you know, to take out Milano or to

792
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 2: take out Joe or to you know, get to TV,

793
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: I mean, it looks like you guys are keeping them

794
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 2: clean and I and again I realize that's not every play,

795
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: but it seems like they're pretty free to run and

796
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 2: hit and it's noticeable early.

797
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I mean they're they we have warned

798
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 6: the fastest linebacker Cords. I feel like in the league,

799
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 6: I mean they, I mean Matt and TB I mean

800
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 6: even Shack out there now, even even in Buffalo Joey,

801
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 6: they're all flying down Specter.

802
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 4: They've been flying around.

803
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 6: And I think if the message from Bobby in that

804
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 6: mindset of like we are going to stop the run,

805
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 6: we're not gonna you know, deal with it with with

806
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 6: with the bs and you know, we our keys are

807
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 6: channels to do something that we're going. So I think

808
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 6: they've been you know, playing with their you know, with

809
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 6: their hair on fire and and you know, at the

810
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,959
Speaker 6: same time we'll be doing a good job of front

811
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 6: just you know, we we're not just playing one gap.

812
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 6: We're playing all right now. We're saying we're playing from

813
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 6: A to A, from A to B like we are.

814
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 6: We are trying to play all across the board to

815
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 6: make everyone's job.

816
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 4: You if you're doing one eleven Firth of course, but

817
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 4: also want to and do a little.

818
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 2: More perfect day. Quon, thanks for the time. It's always

819
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 2: always good to meet with you here a training that's

820
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: Da Kwon Jones joining us here on One Bill's Live.

821
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: We'll take a break and be back with more of

822
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 2: our training Camp Cover. Stay tuned back here at Training

823
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: Camp Saint John Fisher, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker on One

824
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Speaker 2: Bill's Live and Uh. Before we press forward, we wanted

825
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Speaker 2: to thank Wegmans again for providing us with lunch here

826
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Speaker 2: at Saint John Fisher. Today's offering an Ultimate Mini Croissan

827
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Speaker 2: Tray and an organic vegan berry Blast Salad. The Ultimate

828
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Speaker 2: Mini Croissant Tray and Organic Berry Blast Salad offer a

829
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Speaker 2: delicious balance of rich and refreshing flaky croissants filled with turkey,

830
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: ham and chicken salad co pairs perfectly with a vibrant

831
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:06,280
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832
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:11,400
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833
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: the official tailgate headquarters of the Buffalo Bills. And I

834
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: gotta say, you know you have your regular sandwiches, Steve, Yeah.

835
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 2: Do you want to know what makes the croissant sandwich

836
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 2: extra delectable?

837
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: The croissant?

838
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they they bake it with butter inside it.

839
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: It's the buttery goodness of the croissant that just levels

840
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: up the sandwich. Now, that was a do you see

841
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: that perjudo in there? And they were good, the roast beef,

842
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 2: the perjudo, I got a turkey, some ham. We did

843
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 2: this last year too, but this year they upped it

844
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 2: big time. We got we kind of got a year

845
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 2: under our belt to kind of they up their game,

846
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: delivery systems a little better, the whole that.

847
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Speaker 1: It's really good man. We really appreciate Weggings. I mean,

848
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: you're helping us out. They're not paying attention. You could

849
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: easily scarf down like four of those mini Croissan sandwiches.

850
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: They're like, they're they're uh, they're sophisticated. Sl It's probably

851
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: the best way to put it.

852
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 2: And the Croissan does does provide an air of sophistication,

853
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 2: but just a Croissan on its own because of that

854
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: butter that's baked in. Oh my gosh, I can't I

855
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 2: can't take it. It's delicious. So thank you again. We

856
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 2: have a number of different conversations on the sideline Steve

857
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: during these practices, Yes, and we came across one that

858
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 2: I thought was very interesting and I wanted to challenge

859
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 2: our audience a little bit with this because, as you know,

860
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 2: men put their foot in their mouth far more often

861
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 2: than women do. We say, and the ridiculous things that

862
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 2: we do and I have. I was scarred by a

863
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 2: question posed by one of my high school basketball teammates

864
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 2: to one of the moms of the players on the team.

865
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 2: One of the moms, so, we're entering the gymnasiums getting ready.

866
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 2: We're entering the or entering the gymnasium for our varsity

867
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 2: game that evening. Uh and the JV team is leaving.

868
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 2: They have their five o'clock game. We play at seven,

869
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 2: and one of the moms of the JV players is

870
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: they're waiting for her son to come out of the

871
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: locker room, and one of my teammates on the varsity

872
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: team recognizes her because I think they live in the

873
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 2: same neighborhood or whatever, and he hadn't seen her in

874
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 2: a while, so he, you know, he's trying to be polite.

875
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 2: He was going to go and say hello, and I

876
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: guess to him, she looked a little bigger in the

877
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: belly area, and he decided to say, Hey, are you pregnant,

878
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: to which she replied with the look of death on

879
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 2: her face.

880
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm not.

881
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 2: So dude. Dude, I was standing next to him.

882
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: I want to keep walk.

883
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 2: I didn't break stride he talk to her. I just

884
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 2: kept on going. I don't even know the guy, and

885
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 2: that has that has had a major impact on me,

886
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 2: because whether it's a coworker, a friend, a relative, until

887
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 2: I have it confirmed from like four other sources that

888
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: the person in question is in fact pregnant, only then

889
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: will I offer congratulations. So I pose to you and

890
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 2: everybody out there listening and watching, is there a worst

891
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: scenario in which you can put your foot in your

892
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 2: mouth than incorrectly questioning whether a person you know, you

893
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 2: know of the female gender is pregnant. I don't think

894
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 2: you could.

895
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and being wrong about it. Yeah, if you're gonna

896
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: call in and ask and tell you top it, I'm

897
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: telling you make sure we can put it on the air,

898
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: because that's the only way it's gotta be.

899
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: That's up there.

900
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no coming back from there.

901
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 2: Oh. I And that was like, I mean, we're talking

902
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 2: thirty five years ago, forty forty years ago. I'm thirty

903
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 2: five years ago, and I remember it like it was yesterday.

904
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 2: I will never man forget the look on that woman's

905
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 2: It's a good.

906
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: Life lesson that you have to you can see somebody

907
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: else go through that you really, you'll never forget, you know,

908
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: you just never go there.

909
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, the lesson I got that one. I'm not making

910
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: that mistake. That's right, and I have exactly right that happened.

911
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: It's exactly right by the way I got.

912
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 1: I nailed it.

913
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 2: I did.

914
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: Miss Pete Roselle was in that crew, that Hall of

915
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: Fame class. Oh it was OJ, Roger Staubach, contribute and

916
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: Pete Roselle and Frank Gatsky. It wasn't Okay, yeah, it wasn't. Uh,

917
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 1: it wasn't Bradshaw Bradshaw's Yeah. So it was Pete Roselle,

918
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: Roger Staubach, Joe Namath.

919
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 4: O J.

920
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: Simpson, and Frank Gatsky. He was the senior Frank was.

921
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: He played from nineteen forty six to nineteen fifty seven.

922
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:02,959
Speaker 1: So that's why you know, there's a lot of people

923
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: good class. That's a really good class. Pete Roselle, Roger Staubach,

924
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,959
Speaker 1: OJ and Joe Namath. Wow, that's a Hall of Fame class.

925
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: Do you want to know what's amazing to me? Joe

926
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: Namath in his career, I believe won two playoff games.

927
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: Well, listen, Joe didn't get in because of his stats

928
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: he threw. Uh, he only had he had twenty seven

929
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: thousand yards. He had two hundred and twenty interceptions.

930
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 2: And more interceptions than touchdowns. Yeah, he had hundred and

931
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 2: seventy three touchdowns, two hundred twenty picks.

932
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was it was a different time. But as

933
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: you know, well, for a while, he was the face

934
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 1: of the league. He was the entire National Football League.

935
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: He's what, well, the AFL, He's what legitimized Broadway. Joe,

936
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: He's what legitimized really the Super Bowl and the American

937
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: Football League eggs right, Uh, and the Super Bowl. So

938
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 1: there's yeah, nobody's questioning whether Joe affected the game because

939
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: he did so and positively as well. So good for him.

940
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 2: All right, we got to take a break here. When

941
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: we return second hour of the show, we will be

942
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 2: joined here on set by ESPN NFL analyst Ben Solak,

943
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 2: who took in Bill's training camp today. We'll get his

944
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 2: thoughts on that and maybe his thoughts on some of

945
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 2: the other camps he has hit thus far to see

946
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 2: what's trending in the league. So we'll catch up with Ben,

947
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 2: but plenty to discuss with you as well, if you

948
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 2: want to fire off some questions at us an hour

949
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 2: number two about what we're seeing here at training camp.

950
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 2: Feel free to do so at eight h three oh

951
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 2: five fifty otherwise we'll see in a few here on

952
00:47:42,800 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 2: One Bill's Life. This One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health,

953
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 2: Day seven a training camp out here at Saint John Fisher.

954
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you here on One Bill's

955
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 2: Live Hour number two on a Thursday. And Uh, I

956
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 2: wanted to pose this question to you, Steve, because you

957
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: know we are a full week now into training camp practices.

958
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 2: Today was practice number seven, and I'm wondering, based on

959
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 2: training camp performance alone, not on who got added in

960
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: the off season, not on who got drafted, not on

961
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 2: who got signed, performance on the field over these last

962
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 2: seven days, what position group has booyed your confidence in

963
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 2: them the most.

964
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: Uh, It's like I had a lot of I was

965
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: pretty confident in every aspect of the of the club.

966
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: Obviously somebody who has.

967
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 2: Performance on this field though, through the first week. What

968
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 2: position group has performed admirably to the point where you're

969
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: like they're gonna be pretty good there?

970
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, offensive line, Okay, it's not a surprise. I mean

971
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 1: because they've been down men there and they've been down

972
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: and guys you and I didn't know when we came

973
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: into like Bear and Kendrick Green and these guys are

974
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: they're holding up. Yep uh, they're really holding up. They're

975
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: showing up, they're getting reps, they're they're one on ones,

976
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: look really good. I think that the guys up front

977
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: there's deep and talented as as any crew that that

978
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: the Bills have had. So yeah, that's where I started.

979
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: It's no surprise. But nevertheless, I think they've lived up

980
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: to it. They you know, even with the guy, you know,

981
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: Spencer Brown not having taken a REP, Grabel has played well,

982
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: you know, Rich a Garage.

983
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 2: They just yeah, they're working Garage yet guard a little

984
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 2: bit more. And he's doing really well there. He had

985
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 2: a pass rush rep yes two days ago where the

986
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 2: guy tried to get outside on him and he just

987
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 2: rode him out and he went all the way around

988
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 2: the circle back to the starting point and Garage stayed

989
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: right with him. And his teammates were.

990
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, yeah, Rich and yeah and all this Tyland Grabel,

991
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: he's an athlete. He forget about a big offensive even

992
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 1: like like he doesn't look like Dion even but he

993
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: moves very light on his feet, change of directions extremely well,

994
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: real quick twitch, almost looking mart you know, right. So

995
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 1: they've got some really physically talented guys up and it's showing.

996
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: So I think the offensive line is everything we thought

997
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: it was going to be. It's deep, it's talented. Spencer

998
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: Brown hasn't taken a snap yet, Alec Anderson has been

999
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: you know, is not even there, and yet many they

1000
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: have not skipped. They even had a hiccup. So that's

1001
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: what I would say.

1002
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 2: I've got two position groups here that have shown more

1003
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 2: than I anticipated in the first week of camp. One

1004
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 2: group is the tight end group. Up until today, they

1005
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 2: were without Dawson Knox. They missed one day of Dalton Kincaid.

1006
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 2: I think Zach Davidson has taken the greatest strength of

1007
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 2: his game in pass catching and made it even better

1008
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 2: because he looks dangerous out there. I don't know if

1009
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 2: he's I still don't know if he's going to make

1010
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 2: the roster because of the people he has in front

1011
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 2: of him. But man, if you have Kincaid go down,

1012
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 2: or god forbid, Knox goes down, and you have Zach

1013
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 2: Davidson on your practice squad, right, you're doing pretty darn

1014
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 2: good there. And then combine that with what we've seen

1015
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 2: from Jackson Hawes, who, based on the round in which

1016
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 2: he was drafted and what he has done on the field,

1017
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 2: he might be the most impressive rookie so far because

1018
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 2: the expectations were probably significantly lower for him than say

1019
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 2: a Max Harrison or a TJ. Sanders. What he has

1020
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: done at the position has been nothing short of impressive

1021
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,720
Speaker 2: in terms of all the assignments he has been handed.

1022
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 2: And then even the kid COLLECTI lots to the undrafted lookie,

1023
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 2: he's making one handed catches in the end zone and

1024
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 2: he looks like a condor out there sneering balls out

1025
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 2: of the.

1026
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: Group's done a nice job, Davidson is.

1027
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 2: He's an interesting case.

1028
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'll say this too. I think he's an

1029
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: NFL tight end. I don't think he's out of his

1030
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: weight class at all. His strength of his game is

1031
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: we're out running and the guy catches really well. He

1032
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: got soft hands, runs good routes. He's one of those

1033
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: he's like he GETSICKI for Cincinnati, but he doesn't. He's

1034
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: not a physical player. He doesn't get down inside and

1035
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: do the gritty and yeah, gritty nitty gritty stuff. He's

1036
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: not a physical blocker, but other than that, he you know,

1037
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 1: whatever he does do, he does extremely well.

1038
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 2: He is trying to well, I don't know if he yes.

1039
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 2: He is trying to round his full game into form,

1040
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 2: or to at least raise the level of his blocking

1041
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 2: to that of his pass catching ability. And I find

1042
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: it interesting that the coaching staff is putting him in

1043
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 2: certain assignments during the team portions of practice where he

1044
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 2: is being called upon to do a little bit of

1045
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 2: blocking on the back side of a play or you know,

1046
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 2: something to that effect, because I think they want to

1047
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 2: see can this guy execute those kinds of assignments, Because

1048
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 2: if you put a guy like him on the field,

1049
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,959
Speaker 2: the defense, based on his prior history, are immediately thinking

1050
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 2: that guy's going to run a pass route and try

1051
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 2: to get targeted. In the passing game. He's not blocking. Now,

1052
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 2: this is a pass play because that guy can't block.

1053
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: And even if they're gonna run the ball, they're gonna

1054
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: run away from him.

1055
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 2: And so I think they're trying to insert him in

1056
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 2: areas of the game where he is executing a blocking assignment,

1057
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 2: maybe not a primary one at the point of attack,

1058
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 2: but one that at least affords a level of unpredictability

1059
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 2: if and when he is on the field, and I

1060
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 2: find it interesting they're putting him in those situations here

1061
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 2: through the first week of camp. I think they want

1062
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 2: to see, have you rounded your game into form? Can

1063
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 2: you do more things for us? And if he can,

1064
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 2: maybe they got to think long and hard about how

1065
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 2: many tight ends they're gonna carry. Maybe they're carrying four

1066
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 2: instead of three. So that's what's made the tight end

1067
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 2: position interesting for me. And then the other position group

1068
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 2: for me that I think has done more than I

1069
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 2: expected is the linebacker group. For the majority of this camp,

1070
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 2: they have been without Terrell Bernard and Dorian Williams, two

1071
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 2: of their top three linebackers on the roster. Milano has

1072
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 2: been outstanding. He was a spark plug the first day

1073
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 2: of run defense out here, just making hits in the backfield,

1074
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 2: wrapping up people at the sideline. Joe Andreson we've already

1075
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 2: talked about, and how he has stepped his game up

1076
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 2: and is going to be firmly in the conversation for

1077
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 2: the backup mike linebacker position behind Torell Bernard his chief

1078
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 2: competition there Balon Spector, and then what Shaq Thompson has

1079
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 2: done just ten months removed from achilles surgery is nothing

1080
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 2: short of amazing in my eyes, the way he is

1081
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: out there moving and running around, it's a physical miracle.

1082
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 2: If you ask me for a player over thirty years

1083
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 2: of age, and then you go from there and it's like, Okay,

1084
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 2: you've got this interesting hybrid linebacker kid and Keante Jenkins

1085
00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 2: the teammate. His teammates call him kJ out here. He's

1086
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 2: an interesting player that I think, with development, could be

1087
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 2: you know, somebody on the radar in a year or two.

1088
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 2: I think his head swimming a little bit, but I

1089
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 2: could see him being a practice squad player as a

1090
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 2: rookie and then you know, come next year, maybe he

1091
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 2: factors in a little bit more. You still have Edieu Lafochio,

1092
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 2: the former sixth round pick. So I mean that's a group.

1093
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: That's a group there. There's a lot of really good

1094
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: athletes in there. Joe and Dreesen still looks to be

1095
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: a fixture. He's taken a lot of reps high up

1096
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: the depth chart, if not the number ones he's close

1097
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: behind him taking reps with the twos and then working

1098
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:42,919
Speaker 1: down through the threes as well. I mean he's taking

1099
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: he's on the field. Yeah, that's an athletic group. And

1100
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: it is going to be interesting to see how they

1101
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 1: massage that, probably to keep as many of those guys

1102
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: as they.

1103
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 2: Can, right, And I'm anticipating this is still going to

1104
00:56:59,960 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 2: be a defense that plays more nickel than base. And

1105
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 2: typically they've kept five, occasionally six linebackers, but there could

1106
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 2: be some numbers game battles here where maybe you only

1107
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 2: keep five and you practice squad two so you have

1108
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 2: your depth there.

1109
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: Think about it, though, Brownie, you know this as well

1110
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: as I do. How long I mean, because how long

1111
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: will a defense? It's because they're not gonna play nickel

1112
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: defense as their base defense forever.

1113
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 2: No, And I think it's already starting to shift a

1114
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 2: littleft a little bit, right. It's not ninety five nickel anymore.

1115
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 2: It might be like seventy five exactly. And where where's

1116
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 2: that gonna start? Where's it gonna go? And and you

1117
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 2: got to start, you need line you might need that

1118
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 2: extra guy. Right, So they're not gonna play nickel forever

1119
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 2: because the league will force them out of it. They're

1120
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 2: gonna come up with something where they do this so

1121
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 2: well that Terrean's gonna have to come off the field

1122
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 2: or some thing. Right, Yeah, they'll have to adjust and

1123
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 2: if that happens then yeah, then we'll see if they

1124
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: need these extra linebackers and which one they're gonna put in. Yeah,

1125
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 2: it's a good group. We have to pivot now. As

1126
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 2: ESPN NFL analyst Ben Solec gonna join us here on

1127
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 2: set for a discussion. He was here for training camp

1128
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 2: today as he makes his training camp tour primarily on

1129
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 2: the East coast. Here he's been hitting the Rust belt

1130
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 2: hard Detroit, Cleveland, and now Buffalo. Ben Solac joins us

1131
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 2: right now. All right, Ben, so you took in a

1132
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 2: day of Bill's camp. You're you know, shoot your fly in,

1133
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 2: you swoop in, you swoop out. How do you handle

1134
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 2: your busy training camp schedule, because you know, sleeping in hotels,

1135
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 2: driving long miles, maybe flying a little bit too obviously,

1136
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 2: but this is like, this is the this is the

1137
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 2: draw on your reserves physically.

1138
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 7: You gotta stretch when you get to the hook room

1139
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 7: out of the car. That's the number one. The low

1140
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 7: backs is the first thing that starts to go for

1141
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 7: all those seat sits in the car, and I was

1142
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 7: feeling it standing out there today. I said, all right,

1143
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 7: you gotta do a longer session when I get to

1144
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 7: the hotel in Philly tomorrow. It's a great time though,

1145
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 7: it really is.

1146
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 3: You know.

1147
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 7: I feel for the National riders who are there, are

1148
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 7: in the West and they got to fly everywhere. I

1149
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 7: love the two weeks of driving. You bump in everybody,

1150
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 7: you say hi to folks. It's going to be I

1151
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 7: missed Buffalo last year, gonna make it and so again

1152
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 7: to come back this year. I love the college of

1153
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 7: it all. It's a good time.

1154
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: And this is also a training camp that's well established.

1155
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: Sean mcdermy going in this like eighth season.

1156
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 5: They run a smooth off.

1157
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's well oiled. If you're coming in, you let

1158
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: them know they know how to handle. They've got everything's

1159
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: laid out for you. What are your impressions? What did

1160
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: you expect to find when he came here?

1161
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, so it's night like you know, the one day

1162
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 7: is tough because you never want to draw too much.

1163
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 7: It's a it's a great beat here and so you're

1164
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 7: talking to the beat kind of here, and how everybody is.

1165
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 7: And then the number one thing that I just like

1166
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 7: to be able to seeze the right what do the

1167
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,919
Speaker 7: rookies look like, they look like they belong, what team

1168
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 7: are they running with?

1169
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: Right?

1170
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 7: And kind of where where are people falling in that

1171
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 7: depth chart right, because you you forget that Shack Thompson

1172
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 7: is a guy who joined Buffalo and he's coming off

1173
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 7: the injury. But Sean mcdermant new from the time there

1174
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 7: and he's out there running with the ones. There's no

1175
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 7: Tell Bernard obviously, but he's out there running with the ones,

1176
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 7: and it reminds you, Okay, so this is what they're

1177
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 7: out on linebacker depth. You see Trey White out there,

1178
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 7: you know, running Obviously there's no Harriston right now, but

1179
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 7: still he's been a guy who's been moving with the

1180
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 7: ones in camp and so you know, I can read

1181
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 7: my training camp updates that I could look at my

1182
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 7: my depth chart, but the main thing for me is

1183
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 7: lets me see some of that and then you get

1184
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 7: to take the temperature.

1185
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 5: Right.

1186
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 7: You talked to a couple of coordinators, you talked to

1187
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 7: a couple of players. I was just speaking with Greg

1188
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 7: Russou about what they're doing defensive front wise, because it

1189
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 7: looks like they're doing some differ stuff that I'm used

1190
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 7: seeing from Buffalo. So you get a chance to expose

1191
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 7: yourself to the team and see what they're trying to

1192
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 7: figure it out. New stuff that like they ran hook

1193
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 7: of ladder like four times. It's okay, maybe BAFA's gonna

1194
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 7: run hooking lad at some point this year. You kind

1195
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 7: of expose yourself to the stuff a little bit.

1196
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 2: As far as like, because we've had you on earlier

1197
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 2: in the offseason and talk to you about the prospects

1198
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 2: for this team. And there are some clear force multiplier

1199
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:54,439
Speaker 2: force multiplier players on this roster. Keon Coleman I would

1200
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 2: list as one. Dalton and Ka would probably be another,

1201
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 2: especially if he gets back to his rookie form. Are

1202
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 2: there any other force multipliers that you see, whether it's

1203
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 2: on the defensive side of the ball, maybe even in

1204
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 2: the return game. If Leviska Shenalt is a guy that

1205
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 2: wins that job, who do you kind of key in

1206
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 2: on as players that could finally put this team over

1207
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 2: the hump, so to speak.

1208
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:19,439
Speaker 7: Well, I think that when when they brought von Miller

1209
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 7: in a couple of years ago, it was to have

1210
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 7: a playoff ringer, a guy who can win against the

1211
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 7: top tackles in the pass rush in the AFC playoff

1212
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 7: picture to win a playoff game. And that never manifested itself.

1213
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 7: And so I don't know the names that brought in

1214
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 7: six different guys, right, you know? They they draft Lane

1215
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 7: and Jackson, the draft DJ Sanders, they bring Joybosa, they

1216
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 7: bring in Michael Hoyt, they bring in Larry Gounjobi by November,

1217
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 7: and obviously Greg Rizzo might get better aj Ipanessa by November.

1218
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 7: I want to be able to point to a guy

1219
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 7: and say he's going to be able to win on

1220
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 7: that third down that gets the Bengals off the field,

1221
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 7: that gets the Chiefs off the field, that allows you

1222
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 7: to protect the lead, that allows you to win the game.

1223
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 7: Right that The issue with the offense having the ball

1224
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 7: and losing these playoff games is, well, yeah, you can

1225
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 7: also have the balls the offensive be leading too, you know,

1226
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 7: and you'd like to be able to get that one

1227
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 7: stop defensively, right. And so to me that the number

1228
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 7: one right X factor for four multiplayer I'm looking for

1229
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 7: from this Bills team is the ability to have a

1230
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 7: ringer of a pass rusher because we talk about regular

1231
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 7: season football, you're really well coached, you have a roster

1232
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 7: of solid eleven dudes on defense, it's all hunky dory.

1233
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 7: Then you get to January football and Jenio football is

1234
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 7: a different cat, and you have to have guys who

1235
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 7: beat the other guys, guys for four quarters. You have

1236
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 7: to have a Jamar Chase answer, you have to have

1237
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 7: a Lamar Jackson answer. You need those players, and with Buffalo,

1238
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 7: it's always been about the depth on defense, about the versatility.

1239
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 5: You're looking for those star players. They need one of

1240
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 5: the defensive line.

1241
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 1: We have talked about that at length on our daily

1242
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: show here and we're doing it again today. Because they

1243
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: have thrown draft picks at the problem. They've they've gone

1244
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: free agent round, as you mentioned with Von Miller, now

1245
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa, Ogunjobi, and now they've also brought in coaches,

1246
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 1: Ryan Nielsen, Jason Rebrovich. They got these guys that came in.

1247
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: They're throwing coaches at it now as well. So they

1248
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 1: are it's all hands on deck, and it's obvious that

1249
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 1: they see the problem the same way as you do.

1250
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: What else do you suggest other than stinking and getting

1251
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: a top draft right.

1252
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, So that's as being said about Jamar Chase back

1253
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 7: in the day, right, So, yeah, they got Jamar Chase

1254
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 7: at five overall. I don't get to pick at five overall.

1255
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 7: And there's some truth to that. There's some you know,

1256
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 7: prevarication to that, but there certainly is some truth to that.

1257
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 7: I do think that defensively, the addition of Ryan Nielsen,

1258
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:16,919
Speaker 7: I think that they're gonna want to do a little

1259
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 7: bit more, a little bit different stuff with the front,

1260
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 7: and they've done previously, a little bit different stuff in

1261
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 7: term of bringing pressures that they've done previously. You really

1262
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 7: want to be able to trust your safeties when you

1263
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 7: do a lot of the sending pressure packages and rotating coverages.

1264
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 7: And I think last year understandably they were figuring out

1265
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 7: what their safety room was over time. Cole Bishop missolved

1266
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 7: training camp last year. You're hoping that you can get,

1267
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 7: you know, a big year to jump from a guy

1268
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 7: like a cold Bishop and you can trust him a

1269
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 7: little bit more to do some funk your stuff in

1270
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 7: the front. So I think that that again, what they

1271
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 7: are defensively, and this is to Sean mcturmanth's credit, is

1272
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 7: there an extremely well coached group gets the best out

1273
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 7: of a lot of players. They elevate a lot of players. Right,

1274
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 7: you've seen so many round three, in round four and

1275
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 7: round five picks become useful players for this defense.

1276
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 5: That is to his credit, it hits a ceiling.

1277
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 7: And if you're going to hit that ceiling where okay,

1278
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 7: we rush for we drop seven play in the nickel

1279
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 7: and we just out disciplined you and we out hustled.

1280
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 7: We got teamworque. Then you need to have a couple

1281
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 7: of pitches. You need to have a strikeout pitch. You

1282
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 7: need to have that twelve to six s curveball, you

1283
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 7: need to have that change up. So that way, when

1284
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 7: you run into a Mahomes, you run into a borough,

1285
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 7: you run into a Lamar. These guys are just too

1286
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 7: good that you can't out execute them. You can't out

1287
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 7: no mistake them. Then you actually have the ability to say, right,

1288
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 7: we're gonna change the way we do our front. We're

1289
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 7: gonna shoot move some pictures on. You're gonna get those

1290
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 7: key plays. So hopefully more creativity on defense.

1291
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 2: I know you had some time to sit down with

1292
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 2: Joe Brady. Yep, you know the oc here are some

1293
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 2: of our observations here through the first week of camps.

1294
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 2: There seems to be even more pre snap motion than

1295
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 2: there was last year. What did you kind of glean

1296
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 2: from him, you know, in terms of maybe some wrinkles

1297
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 2: and changes that he's looking at.

1298
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Speaker 7: The cool thing that I think Joe talked about was

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01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 7: there's a lot that they did really well last year,

1300
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 7: some of their six offensive line stuff, their shotgun running stuff,

1301
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 7: stuff that a lot of teams in the league want

1302
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 7: to do this well. And the Bills just walked in

1303
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 7: and we're immediately good at it. And there's a temptation

1304
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 7: as the coordinator to be like yep, and this star

1305
01:04:58,080 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 7: bread and butter, and we live with it, and no

1306
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 7: one's ever gonna and Brady's very clearly, very oriented on Okay,

1307
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 7: we know we did some cool stuff with six offensive line,

1308
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 7: but teams are going to be teed into the tendencies.

1309
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 7: We have to be better passing off of it, we

1310
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 7: have to have more changeups off of it, so on.

1311
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 5: And so forth.

1312
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, we do a great job throwing a khalilshe Key

1313
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 7: out of the backfield and James Will out of the backfield.

1314
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 7: But you only have so many plays then, and you

1315
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 7: want to be able to iterate on it and go

1316
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 7: off of it. And so it's always good to hear

1317
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 7: an offensive coordinator who, yes, I know what home base is,

1318
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 7: but I know if I stay at home base, eventually

1319
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 7: we to lose ground, right, because defensive coaches are going

1320
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 7: to catch up.

1321
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:28,479
Speaker 2: They better work it all off season.

1322
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 4: Exactly.

1323
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, So we're, you know, the the acknowledgement that we're

1324
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 7: going to want to stay ahead on things. Most interesting thing,

1325
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 7: the thing I'm most interested to see is what they

1326
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 7: continue to do in the running game, just because last

1327
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 7: year they got so good running just like two or

1328
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 7: three concepts from the guns over they were fifty Yeah, right, exactly,

1329
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 7: it was. It was a huge part of Josh's improvement

1330
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 7: last year was the ability to rely on the running game.

1331
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 7: They need to keep that alive, which means they need

1332
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 7: to stay ahead of the curve.

1333
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 1: What do you think the next trend will be? If

1334
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: if you looked into your crystal ball and look around

1335
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 1: the league, what can we look for maybe as a trend.

1336
01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: I mean, we saw a couple of teams last year,

1337
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 1: most non PA, the Baltimore Ravens, Derrick Henry in that

1338
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 1: running game, the Philadelphia Eagles and their offensive line and

1339
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 1: Saquon the Bills being fifty one percent run who were

1340
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: they were? All all those teams are right there at

1341
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 1: the end of the season. What other trends might happen

1342
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 1: this year.

1343
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, you're going to continue to see teams that throw

1344
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 7: screens where they well succeed on offense. And one of

1345
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 7: the number one things to understand about the screen game,

1346
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 7: and specifically, if you remember, like last year, the first

1347
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 7: two three weeks of the season, everyone's playing too high

1348
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 7: and the passing numbers were down, and we all had

1349
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 7: like a connection like we're never going to pass again,

1350
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 7: and the league is going.

1351
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 5: To be you know, avoding adal exactly.

1352
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1353
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 7: One of the reasons why passing numbers look lower than

1354
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 7: they are is because teams are throwing a lot more

1355
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 7: screens than they used to. And the screens, in a

1356
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:42,919
Speaker 7: coach's mind, are an extension of the running game. There's

1357
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 7: something you package to a running play. Okay, we're gonna

1358
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 7: have this handoff. It also have a wide re seaver

1359
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 7: screen over here. So for them, it's a way to

1360
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 7: make the running game work. It's a touch behind the

1361
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 7: one scrimmage with blockers ahead of it. It feels like

1362
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 7: a run play to them, but they get souped into

1363
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 7: our passing numbers. Right when you look at over league

1364
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 7: wide perspective, So more and more teams are throwing screens

1365
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 7: as package plays. Calls attached to running plays a big thing,

1366
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 7: and a Joe Brady offense has been for going back

1367
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 7: to BEZEL'SU days, right, And so your ability to have

1368
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 7: a you know mccollins last year, Josh Palmer this year,

1369
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 7: Daltkin cad lining up out wide, Your ability to have

1370
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 7: players who are good blocking in space that's stock blocking work.

1371
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 5: Your ability to.

1372
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 7: Get offensive linemen out there. I think about Dean Dawkins's

1373
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 7: ability to explode and go geut in space.

1374
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 5: He's so good at it.

1375
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 7: And then you're Khalil Shaker players, right, and your guys

1376
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 7: who are really really good with the ball in their hands.

1377
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 7: If you are good on screens, it's going to give

1378
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 7: you the ability to solve some of the two high

1379
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 7: problems defense they are presenting to you right now. One

1380
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 7: of the reasons why Buffalo endured some of the new

1381
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 7: two high stuff a lot better than think Kansas City

1382
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 7: did because Buffalo was built better to throw screens than

1383
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 7: Kansas City was and you know.

1384
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 2: Speaking of that, I know early separation in a down

1385
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 2: was somewhat of an issue for this offense in the

1386
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 2: passing game last year. It would appear on the surface

1387
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,919
Speaker 2: anyway that they have two new receivers that are good

1388
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 2: at that getting early separation in the down, whether it's

1389
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 2: Palmer or More, who was a pretty damn productive receiver

1390
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 2: for a Cleveland Browns team that had four different quarterback

1391
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 2: Sally it's sixty one receptions for them last year. Do

1392
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 2: you see them as collective upgrades over Holland's and Cooper

1393
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 2: last year.

1394
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 7: I was really excited to see Palmer More when I

1395
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 7: came out here and they were both on rest days.

1396
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1397
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, So you got to ask about it and then

1398
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 7: you see you go from there. I definitely think having

1399
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 7: a beater is really important, right which about third and six?

1400
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 7: Who do I want the ball to get to?

1401
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 5: I don't.

1402
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 7: I think they can be improvements on Holland's and improvements

1403
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 7: on Cooper from last year. I don't think either one

1404
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 7: of them is up to the caliber of Shakir, and

1405
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,639
Speaker 7: I wish that this team did more to use Shakir,

1406
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 7: not just at runier line of scrimmage, but get him

1407
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 7: some more separation opportunities in the inner media area of

1408
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:36,600
Speaker 7: the field. I think he can do that well. And

1409
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 7: so my hope is that there's going to be some

1410
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 7: more trust in Shakir in that role. There's also you know,

1411
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 7: last year, as everybody eats, this year is okay, maybe

1412
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 7: we want a few less people to eat, maybe eat

1413
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 7: a little bit.

1414
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 5: More of the pie.

1415
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 7: And that's a reasonable that's a reasonable way to think

1416
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:52,640
Speaker 7: about it. But you don't want to fall into a

1417
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 7: trap where you say, well, Josh Palmer's our third and

1418
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 7: five guy, and all of a sudden you're taking the

1419
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 7: decision out of Josh Allen's hands, because the decision is

1420
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 7: so good when it's in Josh Allen's Hand's going off

1421
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 7: of last season, right, So a little bit yeah, you want, okay,

1422
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 7: let's Palmer's gonna.

1423
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 1: Be our man.

1424
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 7: Beatter, We're gonna be able to get the ball quick

1425
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 7: film on third and five. But also, like if you're

1426
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 7: still back in that world where it's Josh making a

1427
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,879
Speaker 7: decision getting outside the pocket, there are a lot of teams.

1428
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 5: Wh would really like to be in that world. If

1429
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 5: you remember what you've got here is pretty good.

1430
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're right, it is like that, but it

1431
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: also takes time because you got Josh on a third

1432
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 1: and five and there's five guys that he feels like,

1433
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 1: you've got to have five guys he trusts to throw

1434
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 1: the football on third and five. So Moore hasn't been

1435
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 1: here that long. Palmer Palmer hasn't been here that long.

1436
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 1: Shakir has Kin Cage was that in and outlast, you

1437
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 1: know that kind of Dawson Jackson. Jackson Hawes is a

1438
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 1: new face in here, you know. So we got some

1439
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: it takes a training camp for them to get eight

1440
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 1: or nine guys. It really is eight or nine guys.

1441
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 1: Where Josh says on a fourth and one, when we

1442
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 1: got to have it, I will throw to the guy

1443
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 1: who I haven't targeted in a quarter and a half.

1444
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:57,560
Speaker 1: That's the I think that's the other side of that

1445
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 1: sword that we've seen. Brownie can I suffer from? He

1446
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 1: calls it Bill's myopia? Yeah, what are some of the

1447
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 1: storylines around the league, Like, so if I can take

1448
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 1: my nose off our grindstone here and Saint John Fisher,

1449
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:11,560
Speaker 1: what's going on around the NFL that we need to

1450
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 1: know about?

1451
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 5: I think the Colts quarterback competition is one of the

1452
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 5: bigger ones.

1453
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 7: Saints is obviously a big deal too, But in Indianapolis

1454
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 7: right now, it's there's a you know a lot of

1455
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 7: excitement for Anthony Richison. Looks like for actually a healthy

1456
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:23,560
Speaker 7: camp and for a put together camp. He's playing some

1457
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 7: of his best ball there, So that's exciting.

1458
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 4: I was just in.

1459
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:28,640
Speaker 5: Cleveland for that quarterback competition, if you want to.

1460
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 2: Call it that, but that's that's a friendly word for it.

1461
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 7: That's less of you know, we got guys competing on

1462
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:34,799
Speaker 7: more of but we don't know how to feed as

1463
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 7: many of these mouths, right and kind of figure out

1464
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 7: who we want to get our reps for.

1465
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 5: So I think it's going to be Joe Flacco for them.

1466
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 1: Is that a side show in Cleveland or is it?

1467
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 1: I mean, are they handling it?

1468
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 7: I mean, I think that now that they don't have

1469
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 7: to get Kenny Pickett reps because Pickett as a hamstring.

1470
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 7: It's a little bit easier with three mouths to feed.

1471
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 7: I think when it's four, you have to build the

1472
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 7: entire practice around making sure we get enough reps on these.

1473
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:57,679
Speaker 2: You got to cut your field in half exactly.

1474
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 7: They're doing two spotting with what they write that they

1475
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 7: have two different quarterback stations kind of going on at once, right, uh,

1476
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 7: And that's that's really difficult. It's difficult on the staff

1477
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 7: and on on the quarterbacks. Certainly it's tough on the receivers.

1478
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 2: A lot of reps.

1479
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 7: One of those guys is a left to Dylan Gabriel

1480
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 7: and so you're used to catch the ball cause of

1481
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 7: all of a sudden it's pin in the other direction,

1482
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 7: and it's just it's it. You want to give grace

1483
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 7: to these receivers who aren't exactly got the correct ball

1484
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 7: at the correct time catching it as easily because they're

1485
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 7: getting so many different throws and so that's something that

1486
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 7: they are figuring out. But Cleveland knows that they're a

1487
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 7: team rate nuts figuring things out. So there's not you know, oh,

1488
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 7: you know, ring the alarm bells, what are we going

1489
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:33,679
Speaker 7: to be? It's just all right, we're in a learning

1490
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 7: process here, and then you know, some of the coaching

1491
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 7: changes are obviously going to be some of the biggest notes.

1492
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 7: And then discovering some of this and so watching what

1493
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 7: that new offense looks like in Detroit with John Moore

1494
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 7: and sibning in for Ben Johnson, for Nick Cayley and

1495
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 7: Houston and what they're gonna look like with the Texans.

1496
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 7: Ben Johnson now in Chicago and the intensity that he's

1497
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 7: bringing to practice. You're hearing a lot about how that's

1498
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 7: a u as a culture change there in Chicago. You know,

1499
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 7: guys are getting reamed out for mental exactly. This is

1500
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 7: Ben Johnson is one tense cat. He really really isn't

1501
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 7: and it remains to be seen if that draws the

1502
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:05,600
Speaker 7: best out of Chicago or Chicago's roster can't handle that.

1503
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 7: So it's a fun time in the NFL always is.

1504
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ben, thanks for the time. As always, we appreciate it.

1505
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 2: Safe travels on the rest of your training camp tours,

1506
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 2: but as always we appreciate the thanks.

1507
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 5: I appreciate it.

1508
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's ESPN NFL analysts Ben Solac joining us. We'll

1509
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 2: take a break, be back with more here on one

1510
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 2: Bill's Live, presented by co Lo Out of Help. It's

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01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's Free all right back here at Bill's training camp.

1512
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. We got to get

1513
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 2: to the post practice podium where a player who we

1514
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 2: have not heard from since he was drafted. Is speaking

1515
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 2: to the media. That is defensive tackle and second round

1516
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 2: pick TJ. Sanders, who is being asked to start off

1517
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 2: about tomorrow's practice. Let's go there now.

1518
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 3: I'm actually really ready for that. I was talking to

1519
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 3: DC when I first got here. He was like, we

1520
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:05,719
Speaker 3: got like a little scrimmage type build in a stadium

1521
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 3: during camp. Like you're gonna love that, man, close and

1522
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:10,440
Speaker 3: closer we get into it. It's like, I'm juiced.

1523
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:12,560
Speaker 2: You said that.

1524
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe it's me.

1525
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:17,600
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1526
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 8: Sign that you're getting close that like actual football is

1527
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 8: about to be played, going to do the scrimmage training

1528
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 8: camps more than halfway done.

1529
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 5: Like it's really ramping up there, man.

1530
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 3: You know everybody just preparing every day, you know, my

1531
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 3: first experience of it. No, I'm just getting ready as

1532
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 3: I can. Excitement, uh, juice, anxious, man, I'm just ready

1533
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 3: to get out there.

1534
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 4: Man, I ain't gonna lie.

1535
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 1: Okay, where are you at in terms of having.

1536
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 7: A good feel for this defense?

1537
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 3: As far as like the mental side, I feel like

1538
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 3: every day is no growing. You know, we are putting

1539
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 3: new things in every day, you know, just trying to

1540
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 3: get adjusted.

1541
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 2: Uh.

1542
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 3: And I feel like I've been doing a pretty good

1543
01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 3: job of that and physically, uh, just the same thing

1544
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 3: every they just taking it one step at a time,

1545
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:02,560
Speaker 3: you know, trying to get it.

1546
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 4: You know where it slows down for me.

1547
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 2: Now that you're in it and wrapping it.

1548
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 1: What excites you about playing in Sean McDermott and Body

1549
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 1: Babbage's defense.

1550
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 3: Honestly, the guys I'm surrounded by, you know, Ed, Greg, Joe,

1551
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,759
Speaker 3: you know, all the whole room. You know, d Tackles,

1552
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 3: the ends, just guys that you know seen growing up

1553
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 3: and you know, getting a chance to play beside him.

1554
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 4: You know, I'm really excited for that.

1555
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 7: When you saw the.

1556
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 1: Coach Baptist earlier, you're just saying, consistency is something that

1557
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 1: you's knowed from you.

1558
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 9: What is something that you particularly have been focusing on

1559
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:30,719
Speaker 9: to stay more consistent?

1560
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 4: Just coming in every day trying to get one percent better.

1561
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:35,759
Speaker 3: You know, it's the thing I prided myself on since college,

1562
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 3: coming in and just having something or plan to get

1563
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 3: better at and detailed every day.

1564
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 9: Hang up with Ed Oliver, what what is he bring

1565
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 9: as a veteran?

1566
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 3: He brings the Jews man the knowledge and just experience

1567
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 3: and he always I'm always in his ear. You know,

1568
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 3: it ain't no question I've asked him that he didn't

1569
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 3: have an answer to. You know, like he's just been

1570
01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 3: a great, great vet for me, you know, just to

1571
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:00,680
Speaker 3: lean on, you know, get a lot of a lot

1572
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 3: of experience from him.

1573
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 9: Where did you learn from guys like that?

1574
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1575
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,759
Speaker 3: With day Kwan, it's more so Uh, it's like seeing

1576
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 3: It's like learning with him. You know he don't really

1577
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 3: talk talk as much as ed, but like what he

1578
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 3: shows and puts on tape, you know, it's like nothing

1579
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 3: like I've I thought. I didn't think i'd see an

1580
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:24,640
Speaker 3: older guy like that moving like that. Honestly, Uh, I

1581
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 3: think it's like year twelve and like just him getting

1582
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 3: off the ball, him rushing, it kind of caught me

1583
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 3: off guard, you know how well he was moving, and

1584
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 3: you know how the age he is.

1585
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 1: How would you.

1586
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 2: Describe the defensive line unit as a whole? You guys

1587
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 2: have so many players a part of it right now?

1588
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 2: What is the vibe that you're getting kilted through?

1589
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 3: I feel like it's just a bunch of different personalities,

1590
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 3: a bunch of different guys all mission into one, you know,

1591
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 3: being that we know we all got a rush as

1592
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 3: one you know, four of us up front on the

1593
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 3: d line. You know, I just feel like before we

1594
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:55,640
Speaker 3: can do that on the field, off the field, like

1595
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 3: the jail, like the bonds we've been building us, it's

1596
01:15:58,360 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 3: gonna be important for us.

1597
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 2: What's the most difficult part about finding that, Joel?

1598
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:04,719
Speaker 4: With so many new faces on the ste line.

1599
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 3: This year, I want to think, I want to say

1600
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 3: it's difficult, but probably like something that could come up

1601
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 3: as like just you know, the time. You know, we're

1602
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 3: always at practice, you know, always in meetings, you know,

1603
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 3: trying to learn to playbook, you know, so just trying

1604
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 3: to make that time for us, you know, off the

1605
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:18,679
Speaker 3: field to kind of, you know, just learn more about

1606
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 3: each other. I feel like that's the biggest piece.

1607
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 4: What's the most interest thing you've learned about a guy

1608
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 4: off the field?

1609
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 8: The most interesting thing you've learned about a guy off

1610
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 8: the field that's been a part of your growing process here?

1611
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, I think I taked a d about

1612
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 3: him and horses. You know, he has a thing with

1613
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 3: these horses and yeah, nah, you know that kind of

1614
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 3: that kind of threw me off, you know, you know,

1615
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 3: he was a big horse guy.

1616
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 2: Didn't know ed Oliver was a big horse guy. He

1617
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 2: knows now kind of cool that he was impressed at

1618
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:48,640
Speaker 2: day Kwon Jones in year twelve is still getting off

1619
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:50,839
Speaker 2: the ball like he always did. He's so he's impressed

1620
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 2: with his get off at the snap. It's good to hear.

1621
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 2: They're gonna need day Quon to kind of anchor that

1622
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 2: group at the beginning of the year. Knowing Ogan job,

1623
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 2: he's out of the mix for depth, and you know

1624
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to bring those young guys along. Me

1625
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 2: leaning on Daquon to kind of school those young kids

1626
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 2: up who are going to play.

1627
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is interesting to see how and hear from

1628
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 1: them sell them the players themselves about how they've acclimated

1629
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 1: and some of the things they see and what they

1630
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:25,719
Speaker 1: notice about the older player. Let mean, walk into the league.

1631
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 1: I mean you're twenty what, twenty one to twenty two

1632
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 1: year old kid, twenty year old kid somewhere in there,

1633
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you're looking across there's a

1634
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 1: thirty three year old guy there who's with man strength. Yeah,

1635
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 1: who was who was playing pro football when you were

1636
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 1: like four feet tall?

1637
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and uh or a middle schooler.

1638
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's It's kind of cool to hear guys

1639
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 1: and see once again every year. How you know, what

1640
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:58,520
Speaker 1: they notice and what's striking about this league full of superhumans?

1641
01:17:58,600 --> 01:17:58,760
Speaker 1: You know.

1642
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, we go from one defensive lineman to another. We

1643
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 2: go from TJ to aj AJ. Panessa also addressed the

1644
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 2: media after practice. So here are his comments on how

1645
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 2: things have gone thus far through a week of training camp, seeing.

1646
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 5: That of some of the young guys here at camp.

1647
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 8: Obviously, the Bills drafted three defensive linemen relatively early.

1648
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 1: In the draft.

1649
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 10: You know, I was talking about this with my my

1650
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:27,719
Speaker 10: parents the other day. We got a lot of talent

1651
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 10: in our room. We have a lot of depth. Our

1652
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 10: young guys are coming in. They're very skilled. I mean

1653
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 10: you come from Paris to Javon and all those guys landing.

1654
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:39,680
Speaker 10: I mean, those guys are just all very talented. They

1655
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 10: have the skill set, and it's it's pretty cool to

1656
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,759
Speaker 10: see this is by far our most talented group of rookies.

1657
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 10: I'd say, since I've been here a j.

1658
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 4: What does that do to the veterans?

1659
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 5: What does that due to the guys that have been around?

1660
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:52,560
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, honestly, it's it's really fun to be

1661
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 10: around because these guys are they're more than willing to learn,

1662
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 10: They're more than willing to ask questions. They're all sponges

1663
01:18:57,439 --> 01:18:59,720
Speaker 10: and they can't they're they're just they're such great personalities.

1664
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:01,560
Speaker 10: They make get really nice to be around and just

1665
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 10: really fun as well as competitive. You know, the football.

1666
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 10: The football part's always competitive, and that's kind of the

1667
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 10: mindset you have to have coming into camp. But just

1668
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:12,639
Speaker 10: being able to visualize and see the young guys going

1669
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 10: to you know, it's just another kicker to get you going,

1670
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,599
Speaker 10: Like I have all my own motivations and then plus

1671
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 10: seeing them go, you know, it's just like I just

1672
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 10: got to stay on my p's and q's.

1673
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 8: And I would imagine you guys are already use a

1674
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 8: very heavy rotation on the defensive line, but I would

1675
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 8: imagine this allows that rotation to get the most out

1676
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:30,680
Speaker 8: of everybody, right, make sure the reps.

1677
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 1: That you have what the best you can get for sure,

1678
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 1: for sure.

1679
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I mean we only get twelve to

1680
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 10: fifteen reps of team work a day, and I mean

1681
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 10: in a game, you're getting thirty forty reps.

1682
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 4: Like you just got to make these.

1683
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 10: Count and be as disciplined and as detail oriented as

1684
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 10: you can, because, like I said, you only get so

1685
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:50,719
Speaker 10: many and while we're here, these are the deciding factor plays.

1686
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 10: So you just got to kind of be in it

1687
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 10: while you're in it and just be present so you

1688
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 10: can have the best reps you can.

1689
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 9: What do you think Joey Bothsli brings to the defensive line.

1690
01:19:58,640 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, Joey is.

1691
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 1: He brings.

1692
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:03,560
Speaker 10: He doesn't seem like he brings much energy to the

1693
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 10: d line, but he really does. You know, he's such

1694
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 10: a mellow person. But I mean, with his skill set

1695
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 10: and with his leadership ability, he's just been nothing but

1696
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:13,560
Speaker 10: pleasant to be around, a joy to be around. And

1697
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 10: I mean he's more than willing to just share all

1698
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 10: of his knowledge off the top of his brain and

1699
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 10: just just hand it down, you know, and it's it's

1700
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 10: a blessing to have guys like him around.

1701
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 9: He said, This is the most he's hung around a

1702
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 9: group of teammates too, maybe more so than he did

1703
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 9: whether pat in La. Can you get a sense that he's,

1704
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 9: you know, kind of adapted to the room and you

1705
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 9: guys have embraced him and he's embracing you guys.

1706
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.

1707
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 10: You know, we've definitely done some peeling of the layers

1708
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 10: back on Joey, just trying to get him to open

1709
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 10: up a little bit, and not that he's been closed

1710
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:46,760
Speaker 10: off at all, but him just being more than willing

1711
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 10: to hang out with guys outside the facility, play some golf,

1712
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 10: do some things during OTA's to kind of build those

1713
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 10: relationships so that now that we're here at camp, you know,

1714
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:56,640
Speaker 10: it's just kind of like we're all friends, we're all

1715
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 10: brothers already locked in and it kind of makes that

1716
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 10: communication expect on the field that much easier.

1717
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 1: It's crazy that.

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01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 8: You're of that, you know, at those points, because it

1719
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 8: does feel.

1720
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 9: Like it is what I know.

1721
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 8: Tomorrow going back to the stadium is usually like a

1722
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 8: big milestone for some of the younger guys. Has that

1723
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:14,599
Speaker 8: been anything that people talk about, like, Hey, tomorrow we're

1724
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 8: going back to the stadium. I know for some people

1725
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 8: that's like their first memory inside the stadium.

1726
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1727
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 10: No, for me, you know, I came in during COVID year.

1728
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 10: That's my that's my first memory of the stadium is

1729
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 10: you know, the red and blue. I mean, shoot, we

1730
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 10: did camp in Buffalo and so we were at the

1731
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 10: facility every day that year. And then Red and Blue

1732
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 10: was still in the in the stadium. I want to say,

1733
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 10: but no fans COVID time. But yeah, that's definitely. It's

1734
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 10: it's a big thing, you know. It's our red and blue,

1735
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 10: it's our scrimmage. It's kind of like the first step

1736
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 10: towards real game like scenarios, and just keep taking those

1737
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 10: steps towards the season to get us ready and get

1738
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 10: us prepared like this is. This isn't a staple for sure,

1739
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:51,639
Speaker 10: and it's.

1740
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 4: Going to be a good competitive day tomorrow.

1741
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 8: You said you have your own personal motivations for this season,

1742
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 8: anything that you can share.

1743
01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 10: I mean, it's my contract year. I want to put

1744
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 10: my best foot forward so that I can keep playing

1745
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 10: the game I love and.

1746
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 1: Just keep moving.

1747
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 10: You know.

1748
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 1: I want to just keep improving my game as a whole.

1749
01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 1: I think I've done that every.

1750
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 10: Year, is in any kind of aspects, take a single

1751
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 10: step forward in some ways, maybe a step back in others,

1752
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 10: but just having that improvement mentality and just keeping that

1753
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 10: as my career goes on and just playing with the

1754
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 10: chip on my shoulder. I think I've made my living

1755
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 10: off of that.

1756
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 1: AJ.

1757
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 8: Is there anything specifically you've been focused on improving in

1758
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 8: this camp in your contract year.

1759
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, just being overall, I think if we were to

1760
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 10: dissect it in layers, last year, I think in the

1761
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 10: run I took a couple of steps forward and in

1762
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 10: the past is something that I'm really pushing to prove

1763
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:43,759
Speaker 10: myself into the coaches that I can be a productive

1764
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:46,799
Speaker 10: member of third down play and really affect the quarterback

1765
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 10: with consistency.

1766
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 2: All Right, So that's aj Epanessa addressing the media after

1767
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 2: practice today. I don't know, I've it's interesting that these

1768
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:03,760
Speaker 2: guys appreciate the uh, the fan response when they go

1769
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 2: to the Blue Return of the Blue and Red scrimmage

1770
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 2: because it's more fans than they can accommodate here because

1771
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,720
Speaker 2: you're obviously in the stadium and I think they have

1772
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,680
Speaker 2: upwards are like twenty thousand fans for this practice with

1773
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,680
Speaker 2: a pseudo scrimmage with a scrimmage.

1774
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 1: Might get a bump in it this year, no matter

1775
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 1: what it's been in the past. You know, we've never

1776
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 1: had an MVP quarterback playing in the Blue and Red,

1777
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 1: so we'll see.

1778
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:30,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, for those of you going to the Return

1779
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 2: of the Blue and Red practice tomorrow, slash scrimmage parking

1780
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 2: lots open at three at the stadium, gates open at four,

1781
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 2: and then the practice begins at five thirty. And it

1782
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 2: looks like weatherwise, we're going to be okay, comfortable tempts

1783
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 2: in the mid to upper seventies. So it looks like

1784
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 2: we're in a store for a beautiful day tomorrow. Back

1785
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 2: in Orchard Park at one. Bill's Dr jayoff camera. Do

1786
01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 2: we are they streaming that? Are we broadcasting the premice?

1787
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 1: Nothing? Nothing?

1788
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 2: Live?

1789
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 1: And for you got to be there, you're killing me.

1790
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 2: Got to be there. And then follow reports on follow

1791
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 2: reports on Buffalo bills dot com for some details from

1792
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:18,719
Speaker 2: our web crew with highlights they'll have they'll have highlights posted.

1793
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 2: They're also you know, the top three things we learned

1794
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 2: from the Return of the Blue and Red. Is that

1795
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 2: not good enough for you? Is that too much work?

1796
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:27,600
Speaker 1: Or it's not you guys need to be.

1797
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just like a practice here?

1798
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 1: Yeah? All right? Whatever, All right, At least you're not football,

1799
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 1: I guess at least U. Yeah.

1800
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 2: Steve watches games from years ago, time and time and

1801
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:43,600
Speaker 2: time again. Every time I come into the office, I

1802
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:44,680
Speaker 2: was like, what are you doing? He said, Oh, I'm

1803
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:48,679
Speaker 2: watching this game? From twenty twenty three. It's like, dear God, man.

1804
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 1: Listen, if you're gonna have like that, the NFL Sunday

1805
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:55,600
Speaker 1: ticket or the NFL Plus package, and you can go

1806
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:57,719
Speaker 1: back and you watch these games. You can watch them condensed,

1807
01:24:58,120 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 1: you can watch the full reason. I know, you can

1808
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 1: into the broadcast. You can watch the old twenty two.

1809
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 1: I know. I listen. I don't spend my money for nothing.

1810
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to get my money's worth out of it.

1811
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you this. Do you think we

1812
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 2: should go back and watch a game from the drought

1813
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 2: era to know or remind ourselves how good we have

1814
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 2: it right now?

1815
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 1: You don't have to. I don't have to, dude. We

1816
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 1: lived it. Yeah, you more than you've got scar tissue. Man.

1817
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 2: You I had to write about it after you got

1818
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 2: to go home.

1819
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 1: You you had to, that's right. Uh. Yeah, No, we

1820
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 1: should pick a game. I think we should pick a game.

1821
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:47,599
Speaker 1: That's your assignment. I need you to pick a game, Dallas.

1822
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 1: No God, not that one.

1823
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 7: YEA.

1824
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:53,639
Speaker 1: If we're gonna go back and go seven, every possible

1825
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:54,439
Speaker 1: thing that could.

1826
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 2: Go touchdown, a defensive touchdown.

1827
01:25:57,160 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 1: Everything that could go right went right up until it didn't,

1828
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 1: and we had no way to stop not having to

1829
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 1: go right, We had no way to stop the collapse.

1830
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 1: There was nobody there that could nobody. Nobody could make

1831
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 1: a tackle, Nobody could make one more play.

1832
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 2: You know, I'm sorry I brought it up.

1833
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 1: Now we got how about the nine to six game,

1834
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 1: six to three.

1835
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 2: Games, let's set football back thirty five years. No, that

1836
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 2: was in Buffalo.

1837
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 1: The Cleveland game six to three, six to three.

1838
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 2: No, No, it was in Buffalo because Roscoe Parrish muffed

1839
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 2: the punt which led to the game winning field goal.

1840
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 2: That was in Buffalo. I remember that Monday night seared

1841
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 2: into my brain.

1842
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 1: Monday night football, New England li Otis kick.

1843
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 2: Gumble to kick off fills were up eleven points with

1844
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 2: seven minutes to play and lost.

1845
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 1: How about the Cleveland game in Cleveland snow game?

1846
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 2: That was nothing and there were other factors.

1847
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:53,720
Speaker 1: I did that game.

1848
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 2: I was there and we got stuck there that night,

1849
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 2: and then we had to bust home after the airplane

1850
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 2: got stuck in the muddle on the run.

1851
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 1: We didn't, oh, because I drove, That's right.

1852
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:05,960
Speaker 2: We stayed another day. We got to take a break

1853
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 2: step and ought to close it up next here on

1854
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live. All right, back here on One Bill's Live.

1855
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:25,719
Speaker 2: One last segment to go, and we've got seven training

1856
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 2: camp practices now in the books. We'll have the return

1857
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:31,639
Speaker 2: of the Blue and Red tomorrow, as we said back

1858
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 2: in One Bill's Drive at high Mark Stadium tomorrow evening.

1859
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 2: And uh, I want to see some coordination in the

1860
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:48,720
Speaker 2: passing game. I'm curious to see how and whether or

1861
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 2: not they'll run a two minute drill. Hopefully they do,

1862
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 2: because they ran a pair of two minute drills in

1863
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 2: each of the last two practices, but because they've been

1864
01:27:56,200 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 2: down so many players due to injury, they've run him

1865
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 2: at half speed, right, I want to see a full

1866
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 2: speed two minutes drill. Not that I'm terribly worried about

1867
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 2: how the offense is going to perform this year. I

1868
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:11,440
Speaker 2: just want to see it needs to be reminded.

1869
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 1: Of it at this At this point, you'd almost like

1870
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:16,840
Speaker 1: to see the defense jump all over them, just to

1871
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:17,679
Speaker 1: give you some confidence.

1872
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 2: I've seen some good signs from this care I don't.

1873
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 1: Care how the offense looks in practice or how they

1874
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:25,639
Speaker 1: look in these scrimmages and the pre because I'm fully

1875
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 1: expecting that they're going to be a very good offense.

1876
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 1: Once again, I need the defense to instill some confidence.

1877
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 1: And you know, so I'm not saying joshould drop back

1878
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:36,320
Speaker 1: and throw six straight in.

1879
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 2: Or so lougging up the run game would be I

1880
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:40,720
Speaker 2: mean we've seen evidence of that here. That's why I

1881
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 2: asked Bobby Babbage this morning, said, hey, you know, it

1882
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 2: might not be quite real football, but it's close. Do

1883
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:51,720
Speaker 2: you feel like your defensive line is doing what it

1884
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 2: needs to do to let your linebackers run and hit

1885
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,920
Speaker 2: and run free? And he goes, we are seeing that. So,

1886
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:01,719
Speaker 2: without saying he's encouraged, I felt he at least feels

1887
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:05,680
Speaker 2: it's moving in the right direction because run defense has

1888
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 2: been an issue in the playoffs as we know.

1889
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:10,800
Speaker 1: So we'll see. Yeah, but yeah, there's a lot of stuff.

1890
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:12,639
Speaker 1: It'll be fun to see these guys out there playing

1891
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 1: for keeps.

1892
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 2: We want to hear all about your visit with Marve

1893
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 2: at the Hall of Fame on Monday, so make sure

1894
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 2: you tell him happy birthday and a low from everybody

1895
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 2: at One Bill's Live. We'll see you tomorrow in preparation

1896
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 2: for the returner Blue Red practice Maddy and I tomorrow,

1897
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 2: we'll see you that