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Speaker 1: It is Monday, August twelve. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans and now

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Speaker 1: a guy crying genetically frozen for absolute freshness j P.

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Speaker 1: Ray hopefully not as long as Antonio Brown, but that's okay.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans,

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Speaker 1: j P. Shaddrick, Jeff Logo and Pete Prisco. Hi, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: if your feet were damage, you'd be okay, though you'd

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Speaker 1: be practicing j P. That's right, but you know I

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Speaker 1: would use the helmet that they told me to. But

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Speaker 1: that's okay. That's a strange deal. We'll get to that

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Speaker 1: a little range deal and around the league. Pete Prisco,

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Speaker 1: CBS Sports. I got, by the way, Logs is in

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Speaker 1: because Basselli's sipping tea and eating crumpets. Literally, by the way,

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Speaker 1: if we froze Basselli's brain, we could put it in

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Speaker 1: like one of the little baby jars, couldn't we little

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Speaker 1: at the museum somewhere? Right? Yeah, that's good, Pete, that's

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Speaker 1: a pretty good one. I like it. Um, We've got

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Speaker 1: plenty to get to on this program today. Left Tackle News.

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Speaker 1: That was the big news of the day. Nick Voles

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Speaker 1: speaks the quarterback hawking is always news. We'll hear from

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Speaker 1: QB coming up. Philosophy of starting or not starting in

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Speaker 1: the preseason, you're your starters for the regular season. That's

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Speaker 1: been a hot topic lately. Break that down. We'll go

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Speaker 1: around the National Football League as well. Let's start today

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Speaker 1: with the left tackle news. We'll start actually on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: Doug Moron, the Jaguars head coach, broke the news that

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Speaker 1: he wasn't sure some of these guys will be ready,

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Speaker 1: including Cam Robinson and Doug was down on Saturday. You know,

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Speaker 1: those guys are really trying hard, but today it was

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Speaker 1: kind of a benchmark. You know, they try to kind

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Speaker 1: of get them back. I don't know if they're gonna

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Speaker 1: they're working hard, the train is working hard, and everybody's

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Speaker 1: working hard for uh, you know, but we just can

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Speaker 1: get him over the hump. So we've gotta go and

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Speaker 1: start preparing um to play without him. That's Saturday. Let's

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Speaker 1: move to Monday morning today at T I A. A.

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Speaker 1: Bank Field, The Jaguars back in the practice field about

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Speaker 1: five A about eight fifteen. The first question of Doug Marone.

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Speaker 1: Today was the latest on Cam Robinson. B injuries have

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Speaker 1: been a big thing. We do have one change, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know which we're excited about. Obviously, Cam Robinson is

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Speaker 1: gonna be off a pup, so um, he'll be out

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Speaker 1: there on the practice field. He'll be going through walks

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Speaker 1: throughs and uh individual So that's the good news. Cam

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Speaker 1: Robinson back in the practice field. We had a chance

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Speaker 1: to see Cam Robinson on the practice field individuals walk

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Speaker 1: throughs today and then we heard from the big fellow

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Speaker 1: after practice. What in the world Cam Robinson back out there? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I had a plan this whole time. Uh me the

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Speaker 1: week be back about week one? Um, I ever to

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Speaker 1: put its time type one, and I was just based

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Speaker 1: on how I felt coming in each and every day.

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Speaker 1: Anything anybody said, it didn't come from me. Song. I've

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Speaker 1: never really paid too much digit to this. So people

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Speaker 1: gonna talk. Okay, here he is about eleven months since

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Speaker 1: that injury and he's finally back on the practice field

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Speaker 1: in a limited role. Here that that's a long time

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Speaker 1: for for most guys, especially offensive lineman, to finally come

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Speaker 1: back to practice. You're talking about eleven months most guys

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Speaker 1: usually at the latest. Pete. I mean some some guys

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Speaker 1: an offensive lineman. Yeah, and that leads me little bit

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Speaker 1: of a red flag for me. And I think we

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Speaker 1: talked about this Jeff when I was up there. Um,

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Speaker 1: that's a long time and Joe did he not do

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Speaker 1: message sent by the head coach uh the other day?

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Speaker 1: And you you know, Jeff, you played for Tom. You

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Speaker 1: know how Tom would send those messages through the media

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Speaker 1: and try and get those two players that looked like

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Speaker 1: of it. Well, let me let me kind of You

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Speaker 1: got two separate things going on there. Number one is

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Speaker 1: is look, every knee is different. You know, could Cam

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Speaker 1: based on what the person or the individual is telling

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Speaker 1: from that information. So did this end up maybe opening

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Speaker 1: preparing without me. I might not be ready or there

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Speaker 1: might not be a job for me opening day if

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Speaker 1: I don't hurry up and get back. I mean, did

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Speaker 1: it open Cam Robinson's eyes? Maybe? Was it intended to

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Speaker 1: be a message by Doug Marone? I don't think it

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Speaker 1: was intended to be a message by Doug Marone. Doug

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Speaker 1: Maron goes based off of what the doctors and the

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Speaker 1: trainers are telling him. So but but Jeff, you know

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Speaker 1: better than that that Tom never would push back the

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Speaker 1: it worked well exactly. Maybe it wasn't a message, but

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Speaker 1: he's got to show that he's gonna be the best

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Speaker 1: option for the left tackle position. And that's not gonna

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Speaker 1: be easy to do because you're talking about a player

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Speaker 1: who has not done a practice yet in his return

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Speaker 1: So I mean this, this, this is exactly what you want.

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Speaker 1: I think if you're a coach, you want a position

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Speaker 1: battle for the opening day starting job. There's nothing wrong

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Speaker 1: don't think it's a spoken job that's open, but I

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Speaker 1: what's the first requirement you need to play right guard? Okay,

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Speaker 1: what did he do in Game one? Played right tackle?

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Speaker 1: reasons for that, Pete. Number one is is that they

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Speaker 1: that give you an option of letting Tyler Shatley go

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Speaker 1: So does that give you the ability to where Shatley

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Speaker 1: opening day on that offensive line? I think I think

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Speaker 1: everything is obviously. I think A J. Cann Is the

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Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, I never thought he was. He

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Speaker 1: Even that has been pulled back some and so so

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Speaker 1: it's hard to get a real I get more out

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Speaker 1: of watching two teams practice against each other then I

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Speaker 1: do at any of the preseason games. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: I think that's more valuable, the practice time going against

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Speaker 1: somebody than actually the games. Even though the game snaps,

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Speaker 1: you know, you do have benefit of it because the

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Speaker 1: intensity ramps up. They're getting a player who wants to

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Speaker 1: compete at a high level. Uh. You know, So, I

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Speaker 1: mean I don't know if there's a right answer, and

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Speaker 1: you bring up you bring up a great point. How

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Speaker 1: do you evaluate preseason Okay, Number one is is what

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Speaker 1: is playing his nickel defense with the full bag of

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Speaker 1: calls in a preseason game? So if if he's not,

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Speaker 1: can you really evaluate the game and say, boy, that

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Speaker 1: was good or that was bad? You can't because a

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Speaker 1: lot of times when when the Jaguars are playing in

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Speaker 1: the preseason game, they might have four plays in the

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Speaker 1: playbook and its entirety offensively and run those four plays

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Speaker 1: play in and play out. So they're not changing anything up.

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Speaker 1: They're not giving anything any kind of different looks. And

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Speaker 1: you know what, the defense may be playing guys that

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Speaker 1: normally wouldn't play, or the defense maybe playing a defensive

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Speaker 1: system that they're not gonna play in that situation in

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Speaker 1: a regular game. For examples, like the other night, I

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Speaker 1: did the Cardinals game, right, I was at Arizona. Want

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Speaker 1: to go see Murray's first game. He completed five or

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Speaker 1: six passes or whatever it was. He didn't play in

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Speaker 1: any style or four of the offense that they're gonna

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Speaker 1: use during the regular season. Nothing, it was zero. Well,

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Speaker 1: there's many times, Kingsbury like to spread people out and

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Speaker 1: play five. I mean, people don't show things in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: But if you go to a practice and I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you guys saw this last year last week at Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: when you go to a practice where they're working against

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Speaker 1: other team, they'll do a lot more of their stuff.

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Speaker 1: They'll show more stuff because it's not on tape, and

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Speaker 1: you know it's not easy to get log on and

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Speaker 1: find it and see it. So I think you show

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Speaker 1: a lot more and working a lot more when you're

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Speaker 1: going against the team in practice than you're doing the preseason.

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Speaker 1: For example, real quick, JP, multiple times in a preseason game,

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Speaker 1: you've seen the Jaguars playing an offense that might be

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Speaker 1: in a three wide receiver set, but yet the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: are playing a base defense. I mean, they're not even

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Speaker 1: playing a nickel defense versus three or four wides. They're like,

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Speaker 1: we'll just play it in based defense because that's what

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Speaker 1: we have and and we don't want to substitute the

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Speaker 1: extra defensive backs or it's a personnel issue or what

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Speaker 1: you know. So so, I mean, so in the preseason,

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Speaker 1: you never get apples to apples and oranges to oranges.

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Speaker 1: You always get apples versus oranges, and oranges versus apples. Well,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you this, guys, when is this going

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Speaker 1: to change? Are they gonna shorten this preseason at some

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Speaker 1: point down the It's it that you in a perfect world,

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Speaker 1: you'd like to see him short in the preseason, But

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Speaker 1: are they going to I mean, here's the thing. Do

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Speaker 1: you do? You go to your fan base and say, hey, look,

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Speaker 1: we're taking away two preseason games, and so now your

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Speaker 1: per ticket charges increased per game for season tickets. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I think that's that's the one

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Speaker 1: obstacle I think to to eliminating it's part of the

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Speaker 1: preseason or all of the preseason. But the reality is

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Speaker 1: that every coach will tell you that, and I think

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Speaker 1: the majority of the consensus is among coaches in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League that if you give them two preseason games,

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Speaker 1: that is plenty. And anybody the coach that will tell

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Speaker 1: you anything different Pete is not telling the truth too.

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Speaker 1: And work with other teams either, you know, maybe twice.

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Speaker 1: And for example, I'm a big believer, and I do

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Speaker 1: still think it's going to eighteen games at some point.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a reality the rosters are gonna get increased,

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be more jobs, more money than networks will

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Speaker 1: like it, the teams will like it, the owners will

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Speaker 1: like it, the players will make more money, and there'll

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Speaker 1: be more jobs. So I do think it's going there.

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Speaker 1: But you gotta get rid of two of them. And

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Speaker 1: what you do is Jacksonville wentn't worked out with Baltimore

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Speaker 1: for for two days. That's still gonna happen, But I

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Speaker 1: still think they need to add something else and what

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Speaker 1: I would add, and it would make a lot of

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Speaker 1: sense to help grow your NFL fan base. And some

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Speaker 1: people think you don't have to, but there's always you know,

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Speaker 1: people out there that can't go to games. Go in

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Speaker 1: between two cities. For example, the Jaguars would go meet

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Speaker 1: the Falcons and Valdosta have a workout with him on

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Speaker 1: one day, have like the supposed scrimmage, although you don't

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Speaker 1: tackle at nighttime on one day, make a little festival

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Speaker 1: around it, and give the money to charity all of it.

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Speaker 1: All the money goes to a local charity, and therefore

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Speaker 1: gonna grow your fan base. People who from Valdosta who

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Speaker 1: can't go to Atlanta, can't afford to go to Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: can't afford to go to Jacksonville. We'll see an NFL game.

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Speaker 1: Miami and Tampa might need you know, whoever, wherever whatever, Right, yeah, wait, wait,

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Speaker 1: anyway you think you think that they're gonna do something

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Speaker 1: like that, that's ridiculous, Pete, because the facilities aren't up

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Speaker 1: to parig No, the facilities wouldn't be up to par

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Speaker 1: doing something like that. You're gonna stay, You're gonna stick

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Speaker 1: with what you do. That I think the best way

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Speaker 1: to do it in the preseas. You still continue to

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Speaker 1: play your your two preseason games, but you take those

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Speaker 1: two preseason games and you have two weeks off from

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Speaker 1: the last preseason game to the first regular season game,

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Speaker 1: and then the first preseason game was almost unassured. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna travel to a team and practice with them, or

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Speaker 1: they're gonna come to us, and then we practice each other.

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Speaker 1: You could do the same thing on the second game,

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Speaker 1: and then your starters wouldn't have to play the second

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Speaker 1: preseason game, which will be your last preseason game, and

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Speaker 1: then you would have two weeks to get ready for

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Speaker 1: the season opener. To me, that's that's the way you

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Speaker 1: should do it, and it gives you ample time to

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Speaker 1: get ready. You go of like vald Austin State or

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Speaker 1: something and do it. I like your idea, but the

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Speaker 1: facilities aren't. Aren't the quality at Valdosta State that you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have the Falcons in and UH Titans used to

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Speaker 1: go meet in Dalton, George at a high school facility.

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Speaker 1: Do you think do you think the the NFL Players

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Speaker 1: Association is going to agree to go play at a

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Speaker 1: high school stadium or to go to some college facilities

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Speaker 1: or it's like a couple of work days just like

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Speaker 1: they do it. Okay, No, because it's an NFL player,

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Speaker 1: I can tell you I wouldn't go to a high

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Speaker 1: school field and expect the facility to be as quality

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Speaker 1: to NFL standards about the field itself. It's a safety

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Speaker 1: to safety issue. Pete. You you gotta stick with the

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Speaker 1: NFL facilities. I mean, that's all fine and dandy. Let's

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Speaker 1: just let's not get carried away by by changing the

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Speaker 1: entire dynamic of preseason by wanting to travel to high schools.

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Speaker 1: Didn't it's college. Just cut two games out, go to

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Speaker 1: it started on this defensive discussion here. Everybody's kind of

640
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: on Taven these days, at least online socially. Pete, I

641
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: know you see some of that online everywhere. It's kind

642
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: of everybody's kind of you know, Tavin Bryan's the first

643
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: round pick? Why is he playing like a first round pick? Is?

644
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: The argument? Is he is he? How is he playing

645
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: in this preseason and in this camp. We'll start with you,

646
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: what have you seen from Taban Bron. Let me say this, Uh,

647
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 1: he he didn't pick himself in the first round, so uh,

648
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: I think do you consider that though when you evaluate

649
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: the player? I mean you do that somewhat because it's

650
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: just natural and the team picked himself. It's more you

651
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: evaluate the team's picking. Taven Bryant is a first round pick.

652
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: How's he doing? Does he look and play like a

653
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: first round pick? So far? There are moments that Taven

654
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: Bryan has to where he is a physical, dominant presence

655
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: and he looks like a first round pick. Just like

656
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: in the game. He pushed the pocket a couple of

657
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: different times and he actually looked pretty good then rated

658
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: pretty well with the coaching staff. And then there are

659
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: other times when he pushed the pocket and the quarterback

660
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 1: literally steps up right past him and then Tavin didn't

661
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: see it and so the awareness was not there. But

662
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: that's something that you expect a first round caliber talent

663
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: to be able to come off and make the play.

664
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: And so so it's kind of a mixed bag. But

665
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: I will say this, he's gotten better. And I think

666
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: part of the reason that he's gotten better is that

667
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: the coaches at the beginning of camp and last year

668
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: they were alternating him. Remember last year they had him

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00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: in a strong the strong end position, which was backing

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00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: up Clay's Campbell. Well, they learned last year that he

671
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: was better as a three technique just getting off the ball,

672
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: which he does have a very good good off and

673
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: in training camp they started him out kind of the

674
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: same pattern. They had him at a strong side in

675
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: and then the three technique and then now though they

676
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: had been keeping him at just the three technique, and

677
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: I think that has helped him, but he still has

678
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: a ways to go. And that Florida was very similar.

679
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: He was very close to making a lot of place.

680
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: But the situational awareness or the football awareness needs to

681
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: be increased. And how is that a a learning thing

682
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: where you're thinking about alignment, assignment, responsibility and then once

683
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: you get all those things taken care of Pete, then

684
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: everything else falls into place. I don't know the answer

685
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: to that, but only time will tell you know, I'll

686
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: be honest with you. I was working that night, and

687
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: but you know, being on Twitter and seeing all the

688
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 1: tweets coming out about him uh and beating him up,

689
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: and then you know, thinking, I thought, Okay, this kid

690
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: was on his back a lot. He was getting dominated.

691
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: And then I went back and rewatched the game and

692
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was nearly as bad as it

693
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: was portrayed. He had he had too bad place, Pete,

694
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: too bad place. And you make a good point, Jeff,

695
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: he did push the pocket a couple of times. Now

696
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: he just got to learn how to disengage and make

697
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: the play. But I expected to see from just judging

698
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: from the tweets that I saw, I expected him to

699
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: spend the after the evening on his back and that

700
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: wasn't the case. No, no, what was and like that.

701
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: But the one thing he's got to learn, for some reason,

702
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: when he tries to disengage off of that power position,

703
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: a lot of times he he gets weak. So in

704
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 1: other words, when you when you are throwing an offensive lineman,

705
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: you have to be violent, and it has to be

706
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: a violent physical move to disengage. It can't be I'm

707
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: letting go and then trying to fall off or sluft

708
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: off because they re engage you. They re engage you,

709
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: and they don't like they don't let go. That's offensive

710
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: line are taught old. I will say that there were

711
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: two plays in the game that we're not good, and

712
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: they were short yardage plays, and in both instances he

713
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: was knocked off the ball a couple of yards each,

714
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: And so that was not good. I mean, because if

715
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: you're going to be big, strong, physical short yardage, you

716
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: need to be the same thing. But but you would

717
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: agree with me, not nearly as bad as the portrayal.

718
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, I'd like to do some good things,

719
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: some bad things. That's the preseason and and hopefully he

720
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: continues to get better because he's gonna get a lot

721
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: of a lot of rotational playtime. You know, he's gonna

722
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: be not gonna be a starter, but he's gonna be

723
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: a guy that gets a ton of reps. Right. I mean,

724
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: let's see, Josh Allen made his Jaguars debut first snap,

725
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: had a tackle for loss in the game against Baltimore.

726
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: How did he look on the first in his first

727
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 1: Jaguars I thought he looked good and I was happy that, uh,

728
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: you know, he got to see the ones. He got

729
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: to see, Uh what's the left tackle from Notre Dame,

730
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: Stanley Stanley. And then he also got to see the

731
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: starting right tackle that played a significant amount of playing time,

732
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: which was the Orlando Brown Jr. Right and that the

733
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: right tackle from Oklahoma. And I think that they played

734
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: him a ton of that ball game because he came

735
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: to camp and he was out of shape. But I mean,

736
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: two excellent tackles to face for Josh Allen. The very

737
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: first play of the game, I thought it was a

738
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: very used to play was it a dominant play. I

739
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't say a dominant play, but a nice way to start. Uh. Look,

740
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna take some time for him to get comfortable

741
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: putting his hand on the ground. A lot of times

742
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: when he tries to line up on a tight end

743
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: in a three point stance, that is something new for

744
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: him and it is very difficult to learn to do that.

745
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: But I thought the rushes he started to show signs

746
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: in the week of practice against the Ravens and and

747
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: also in the game that he was starting to work

748
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: the edges of the offensive lineman, which a lot of

749
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: times when you're a young pass rusher, you try to

750
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: take an offensive lineman down the middle and you overpower

751
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: the man. That doesn't work in the National Football League

752
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: because the offensive tackles are too strong and too athletic.

753
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: And so he's starting to work the edges and that's

754
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: a good sign. And he's starting to show his speed

755
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: and his get off. And he's kind of unique, and

756
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: he's fun to watch from from my standpoint because he

757
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: plays the game from a three point and he also

758
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: has the ability to do it from a two point

759
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: because he does have a very good get off. Most

760
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: people want to get into a track stance a three

761
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: point stands to be able to rush the passer. But

762
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: he has a good enough get off an anticipation that

763
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: he can actually do it in a two point So

764
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: a lot of people at times Pete may see him

765
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: in a game and go always playing linebacker. Now he's

766
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: in a two point stands. Well, no, he's just playing

767
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: defensive end from a two point stands, which you can do.

768
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 1: And then look the old three four or four three

769
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: stuff that's out the window in your Nickel sev at

770
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: the time. Anyway, So you know all these teams like

771
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: the Caroline Panthers, we're switching to a three four. Yeah

772
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: you are, but you're not gonna have seven guys on

773
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: your front anymore. It's just not the way you play.

774
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: So this kid's versatility, to me, is is what's important

775
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: to this defense. When they go to Nickel ideal scenario

776
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: and Nickel in the regular season, it will be Klais

777
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: Campbell and Darius inside with him at left end and

778
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: then god, wait, right end and that's what Yeah, that

779
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: that's right, and then you'll have uh, you'll have McCray

780
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: as the sub. He'll be the next guy up on

781
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: the outside edges and then Tavan Bryan will be the

782
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: next guy up in the middle. Two tackle positions for that,

783
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: Nick Nickel what we call subsituation. Pretty good group, right,

784
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: that's it. When you come to the line of scrimmage

785
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: and see that for that's a good pass rushing for

786
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: pret you good, I Pete, I said this before that

787
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: I I expect Josh Allen to break the Jaguars rookie

788
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 1: sack record, which is currently held buying Gockway. I think

789
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: he has that kind of ability and that kind of

790
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: tenacity and and I expect him to be able to

791
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: do that, and I think he will. I think he's

792
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: that good. So if if he breaks the rookie sack

793
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: record and Gockway gets what here we go, Here we

794
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: go Dannel eleven. I mean, if Calais gets twelve and

795
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: Darius gets six, Now you're talking about a defensive line

796
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: that gets you near forty. Yeah, it's pretty good. Good,

797
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,919
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. You're gonna pay some of these guys

798
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: at some point. Let's let's hope, let's hope J. P.

799
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 1: Pete that they can get those numbers that Pete talk about.

800
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: That would be defense is going to be down right now.

801
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna like, jump ahead, what do

802
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 1: they do after that happened? Next year? You can't worry

803
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: about that now. But if you get forty out of

804
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: him this year, I'll tell you what they'll do. Cartwheels

805
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: over that. Oh buddy, that would that would be amazing.

806
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: And look, I will tell you this. Pete Duck Morons

807
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: talked about it a couple of different times, and he's

808
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: talked about the pass rush ability of Marcel Darius and

809
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 1: he wants to see more. A couple of years ago

810
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: and we watched Marcel Darius with the Buffalo Bills. Uh Man.

811
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: He was tough, he was he was a dominant pass

812
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: rusher himself. And I want to see more of what

813
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: Doug is asking for from the pass rusher standpoint, to

814
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: see him finish his pass rush. A lot of times

815
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: Marcel as a tendency to kind of quit on his

816
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: pass rush. He's got the ability to finish, and I

817
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: want to see him finish because if he finishes with

818
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: power and he gets a good get off. J P

819
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: at Alabama was a big strong man at at Buffalo.

820
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: It was the same thing. He looks like a man

821
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: among boys when he gets it cranked. He seems is

822
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: he slimmer than he was last year. It seems like

823
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: he's trimmed a little bit. A little big guy, you

824
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean, he looks good, but I mean

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00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: he looks like he's in shape. He looks like he's

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00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 1: ready to go. The watching him in practice his stuff

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00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: against the run, he's still just so strong. I mean

828
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: he's I mean, he could have a double team and

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00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: it's and it's like he's he holds the double team off,

830
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: you know, with one hand, and then he's sipping a

831
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: coke and reading the newspaper with the other one. I mean,

832
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: he's he's got that kind of strength. I mean, just

833
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: very uncanny. I mean it's also it's also a money

834
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: year for him, true. I mean, basically he's got a

835
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 1: one year deal because they got the ten million dollar

836
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: roster bonus that they'd have to pay him next year.

837
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: So this is a money year for him. So I think,

838
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: you know, every sack you get when you're an interior

839
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: rush guy, the money goes up. So I think from

840
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: that standpoint, he should be good rushing the pastor this year.

841
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: You bring up a great point because if it's a

842
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: money year when you say every sack means something, and

843
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: every sack could mean a million in future earnings for

844
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: Marcel Brice if you think about it. And this is

845
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 1: the guy who's already had unbelievable amount of money coming

846
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: in his way in his career. Guys, the first round

847
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 1: pick before the new cb A. That's why he drives

848
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: a brinkstruck right, and he had the free agent deal.

849
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy that's he's got an unbelievable by

850
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: the time, he's made seventy nine million dollars through the

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Speaker 1: Those things are going to happen and you have to

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Speaker 1: learn how to fight through them. That's head coach Doug

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Speaker 1: Marone today discussing yesterday's practice. Was it the smoothest offensive day?

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Speaker 1: that's for sure. That was an interesting conversation with Doug

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Speaker 1: today about yesterday's practice, and it seemed a little smoother

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Speaker 1: offensively today, so you they learned. It seemed from that

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Speaker 1: you know, the conditions were ripe for where you can

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Speaker 1: have a learning experience because it was exceptionally hot, it

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Speaker 1: was difficult to focus, and it was a very long practice.

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Speaker 1: I mean, heck, I got tired just watching it. But

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Speaker 1: but I mean, look at that's the environment that the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars are gonna play in. And that's always had kind

962
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Speaker 1: of a a little bit of a mental test with

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Speaker 1: myself with the heat, because when you were at Jacksonville

964
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Speaker 1: Jaguar in the early days, you relished the opportunity to

965
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Speaker 1: show an opponent that you were more mentally tough than

966
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Speaker 1: they were when it came to the heat. That's the

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Speaker 1: real thing. Yeah, I mean, it was a real deal.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we we took pride in the fact that

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Speaker 1: we were mentally tougher than anybody in the heat, and

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Speaker 1: I think in the early years it showed. It was

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Speaker 1: one of the few things we could hang our hat

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Speaker 1: on in early days, Pete, as you knew from looking

973
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Speaker 1: at that roster that we had. But uh, yeah it

974
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Speaker 1: let me let me re emphasize again because in the

975
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Speaker 1: Jaguars practice yesterday that they had in this heat, the

976
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Speaker 1: starters once again got a ton of reps in practice.

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Speaker 1: And again this is all part of this philosophy. And

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Speaker 1: that's why I don't know how much or if the

979
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Speaker 1: starters will play in preseason Game number two, just because

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Speaker 1: of the sheer number of snaps that I'm seeing them

981
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Speaker 1: take in practice yesterday and in practice today. It is

982
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Speaker 1: mentally tough for them, uh as in modern day standards,

983
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Speaker 1: and good for them. So we'll see what happens on Thursday. Though.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. I was in Green Bay the

985
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Speaker 1: other day and it was like five and they were

986
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Speaker 1: complaining about the heat, and I said, you guys have

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Speaker 1: no idea zero, You have no idea what you're talking

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Speaker 1: about when it comes to the heat, because that was

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Speaker 1: you know, it was hot, but not like the South,

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Speaker 1: you know how the South is. Yeah, that's a lot different,

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Speaker 1: you know, And I think it begs the other question. Look,

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Speaker 1: if you're the Jaguars and Doug Brons got this new

993
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Speaker 1: philosophy that is, we're gonna rest our players in the preseason,

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Speaker 1: play them sparingly, and then get ready for the regular season,

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Speaker 1: what's the business side of the jack first? Think about

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Speaker 1: that to where you know, you had a performance like

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Speaker 1: you did last week in in Baltimore and a lot

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Speaker 1: of your stars didn't play and a lot of that

999
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Speaker 1: reason is because of that. And so if you come

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Speaker 1: out again this week and you don't play starters again,

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Speaker 1: what is that doing for the telephones that are sitting

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Speaker 1: in the ticketing office. What is that doing for sponsorship

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Speaker 1: and the opportunities that the Jaguars have available, right, I

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Speaker 1: mean that that's I agree with you. I'd be really

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Speaker 1: concerned about that if I were I were the team

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Speaker 1: and the marketing people, because you want to see guys

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Speaker 1: want to be Nobody wants to pay that money to

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Speaker 1: go see nobody play. I got think just reading through

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Speaker 1: the lines, I don't know this for a fact, but

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Speaker 1: reading through the lines, did you get the impression that

1011
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Speaker 1: Folds might not play? I mean, just listening to him, well,

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Speaker 1: I get thinking about that vibe, I get, well, just

1013
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Speaker 1: seeing the snaps is me the impression that there's gonna

1014
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Speaker 1: be a lot of guys this week that may not play.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, maybe he's got the next couple of

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Speaker 1: days to rest him and get it ready for a game.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know, Pete. But I mean, I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: not just talking about the telephones in the ticketing office

1019
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Speaker 1: when it comes to preseason games. I'm talking about the

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Speaker 1: You know, if if this were an established franchise that

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Speaker 1: has had established winning you know, doing something as drastic

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Speaker 1: or not wa drastic? Could I want to call it drastic,

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Speaker 1: But doing something different in the preseason like they done,

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Speaker 1: it would be no big deal because the expectations, well,

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Speaker 1: this team wins, well, this team over the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years has been up and down. So but where

1028
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Speaker 1: are they at from that standpoint? You know? So? And

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Speaker 1: and how are the ticket sales? I had heard they

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Speaker 1: were just yeah, I don't interesting stuff. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: the last There was a big rush to sell tickets

1032
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Speaker 1: because they had the you know, the enthusiasm from the

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Speaker 1: year before. But um, so you're right, Jeff, it matters

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Speaker 1: for other games, not just the preseason, that's right, But

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Speaker 1: in the on the football decision side of things, if

1036
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Speaker 1: it's a strictly football decision, that's their decision to not

1037
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Speaker 1: put guys out and get them ready for opening days. Well,

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Speaker 1: and you and Pete, you know where does that cross

1039
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Speaker 1: the line? You can't you can't have business telling the

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Speaker 1: football side of things what to do, because you have

1041
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Speaker 1: to do it from the football side of things to

1042
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Speaker 1: make the best decision for your football team. At the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, the only thing that matters is

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Speaker 1: when the winds start to count. It give you a purchase. Example, Pete,

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Speaker 1: when was the last time or the only time that

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars had an undefeated preseason? Sure, do you remember

1047
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Speaker 1: they had one? Have they even had one? No? I

1048
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Speaker 1: would say no. See that's my point. Nobody, nobody cares.

1049
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Speaker 1: Nobody cares about the preseason, So is it gonna care?

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Speaker 1: Doesn't matter what they do now when they went on

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Speaker 1: when they didn't win a game. By the way, the

1052
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Speaker 1: Jaguars we were underfeed. Well, okay, you were trying to

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Speaker 1: We'll get those questions a little bit later. Well, to

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Speaker 1: this end, we're talking about Nick Foles may or may

1057
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Speaker 1: not play. We'll discuss the backup quarterbacks there play last

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Speaker 1: week and what to expect this week when they get

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Speaker 1: in there. Hour two of Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by

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Speaker 1: our number two Glad You what us your Twitter questions

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Speaker 1: coming up? You can tweet us at JP Shaddick at

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Speaker 1: logs five six. Speaking of speaking on Twitter, chrisco CBS Yes,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about that Twitter thing. Yeah, yeah, kind

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Speaker 1: of crazy. The video, Yeah yeah, what were they Why

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Speaker 1: were they attacking the chair? That's a great question. So

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Speaker 1: there's a video. It was apparently I think, on C. J.

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Speaker 1: Revis's Instagram and then it was taken from the air

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Speaker 1: by some fans I think, on Twitter and put on

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Speaker 1: Twitter of some players dancing. It looked like in the

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Speaker 1: locker room and attacking a chair and then jumping somewhere

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Speaker 1: jumping on a chair and it wasn't a good look.

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Speaker 1: But but who was it supposed to be? Who the chair? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: somebody said that. Somebody did somebody that used it on

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Speaker 1: Twitter said that the chair was Kaughlin. But that's somebody's opinion,

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Speaker 1: So it's not like the player put that out there. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but why would you attack a chair in the locker

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Speaker 1: room and dance around? I didn't get I have no

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Speaker 1: idea pete um, but it wasn't It wasn't a good look.

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Speaker 1: And then in the background you see Cam Robinson standing

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Speaker 1: up on like a chair or a sofa, and you're going,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, anything on pup not able to practice.

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Speaker 1: But he's like standing up on a couch in a

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Speaker 1: in a video not a good look. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure that I can tell you this if if you

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Speaker 1: were a teammate of mind you kind of look at

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Speaker 1: that and go, wait a minute now, if you can't practice,

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Speaker 1: you shouldn't be standing on a chair, you know, in

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Speaker 1: the locker room. I mean that that's a weird thing

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Speaker 1: to happened in the locker room. Next thing you know,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna put an accent there. But but the good news,

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Speaker 1: the good news from the video is I don't know

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Speaker 1: if the video had anything to do with Cam Robinson

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Speaker 1: practice in today, but he practiced today. So you know,

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Speaker 1: somebody on the team, somebody in the coaches staff saw

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Speaker 1: that and said, hey, can you can do that? But

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Speaker 1: you can't practice if you were, if you were Cam's

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Speaker 1: friend on the team, when you go, hey Cam, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know the video and you're not practicing, Hey man,

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Speaker 1: you gotta practice or you don't stand on the couch

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Speaker 1: or the chair, right right. If I'm whoever put that

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Speaker 1: was it, Reva's the safety put it out right. If

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm a teammate on that, what are you doing? Well?

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Speaker 1: Let Pete, let me let me bring this up, because

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Speaker 1: I think you bring up a great point because me

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Speaker 1: and JP talked about this and that, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: that should be a finable offense. And I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: from the team level, But as a player, I would

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Speaker 1: want if I'm a player in the locker room, I

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Speaker 1: would want C. J. Rees to get fine because I

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Speaker 1: don't want somebody tweeting out or instagramming out video out

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Speaker 1: of the locker room. Because what happens is something's in

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Speaker 1: the background of the player doesn't pay attention to it,

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Speaker 1: but yet he tweets it out, he puts it on

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Speaker 1: Instagram or whatever, and it puts a teammate in a

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Speaker 1: bad light or or some former fashion. Uh, that teammate

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Speaker 1: gets called out for something that he didn't even know

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Speaker 1: was out there. I mean to me, that's dangerous because

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Speaker 1: you know, locker room time well because the players look,

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Speaker 1: the players always believe, and as a player, I always

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Speaker 1: believe this look. The locker room is our place. Okay,

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Speaker 1: when it's open to the media, it's open to the media,

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Speaker 1: and we have to talk to Pete and we have

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Speaker 1: to talk to John o'shure. I get that. But when

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Speaker 1: it's not open, that's a place of comfort and privacy,

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Speaker 1: not for somebody in the locker room to be putting

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Speaker 1: out videos. I can tell you that. Will you make

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Speaker 1: you that, Pete, we'll get back to. Yeah, well you're

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Speaker 1: very strong about that. You can't you can't be putting

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Speaker 1: out video from our house. If I'm a guy in

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Speaker 1: that locker room, uh, class Campbell or a Nick Foles

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Speaker 1: or somebody, you go to ce j Reeves and say, look,

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Speaker 1: this is our locker room, and you don't have a

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Speaker 1: right to put anything out about our locker room unless

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Speaker 1: you get our permission, and our means all ninety guys

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Speaker 1: right now and once you get to the right season. Jeff,

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Speaker 1: I thought that crossed the line um And if I

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Speaker 1: were a player in that locker room, I would not

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Speaker 1: be happy with that, right. No, absolutely not. That's something

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Speaker 1: that needs to be policed in the locker room by

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Speaker 1: the correct and and and then needs to be reinforced

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Speaker 1: by a fine, in my opinion, fined by the team.

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Speaker 1: But the players should be angry with him too. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: And if that happened when you were playing, you were

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Speaker 1: a union rep, you would have gone over to the

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Speaker 1: guy and said, hey, dude, we can't have this. In

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Speaker 1: a minute, Yeah, in a minute, we go from this

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Speaker 1: topic to UH, Jaguars running back Leonard Ford that who's

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Speaker 1: had his past things around here, but so far this offseason,

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Speaker 1: he's been a good citizen in Jaguar world. Seems like

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Speaker 1: he's been good and the t A. So I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: say a great citizen. I know you said good, right,

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Speaker 1: that's probably he's done some interviews, He's done some good things.

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Speaker 1: You know. It seems like, um, he's he seems to

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Speaker 1: involved in the sideline of the United He had the

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01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 1: headset on during the game, which that was the first

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Speaker 1: Jaguars game since the last game of the season last year,

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Speaker 1: when he's on the sideline on the bench. But Pete

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Speaker 1: I made a comment during the game broadcast when it

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Speaker 1: was pointed out by our sideline guy, Rick Blue that

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Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette is engaged on the sideline. He's wearing a headset,

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Speaker 1: he's talking to his teammates that are playing and UH

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Speaker 1: and the coach and I'm going, wow, think about the

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Speaker 1: last time that we saw Leonard Fournette on the sideline

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Speaker 1: and he was not dressed and sitting on the bench

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Speaker 1: with a dress. T J Yelden and the body language said,

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Speaker 1: I could care less about being here. I could care

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Speaker 1: less about my football team and let's just go home.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, boy, I mean, you talk about two

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Speaker 1: completely different looks for Leonard Fournette. So but what we

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Speaker 1: saw in Baltimore, I mean, you gotta look at it

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Speaker 1: as a positive, correct, I mean the other way you

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Speaker 1: could look at absolutely, I think this is a great stuff.

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Speaker 1: You know, you too, and and and I think aside,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, Jeff. He should have been there for

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Speaker 1: all the O T S. But you know, you don't

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Speaker 1: know what's going on in the guy's personal life. Some

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Speaker 1: stuff might happen flag, you know, but so maybe miss

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Speaker 1: a couple But he should have been there after everything

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Speaker 1: he went through last year and they had to talk

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Speaker 1: with him, he probably should have been there. But I

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Speaker 1: think everything he's shown so far this summer is good

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Speaker 1: in the right direction, but good. And maybe he needed

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Speaker 1: the time off from the O T A S to

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Speaker 1: get rid of the bad people, which he talked about

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01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 1: in an article that was just put out about how

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Speaker 1: he got rid of the bad people in his life

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Speaker 1: and everything that I've seen out of him so far

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Speaker 1: in training camp, Pete as far as availability um uh

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Speaker 1: effort during practice effort when I was When I say

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Speaker 1: effort during practice, I'm talking when the whistle blows and

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Speaker 1: then when the whistle blows again or some when the

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Speaker 1: ball snapped and whistle blows. He's been during outstanding. I

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Speaker 1: mean our certain times I'd like to to see him run

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Speaker 1: back to the huddle and all those kind of things.

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Speaker 1: But look, I think in his catching ability he's been.

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Speaker 1: He's has been really good in camp so far. And

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Speaker 1: he is a guy that I would not want to

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Speaker 1: see play in the preseason whatsoever, because I'm seeing the

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Speaker 1: other running backs Pete and I don't see anything close

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Speaker 1: to Leonard four Nette right now. No, I wouldn't play

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Speaker 1: him at all in the preseason none, you know. And

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Speaker 1: if I have a lead runner, I'm not playing him

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Speaker 1: in the preseason, no matter where you are. I'm just not.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it's worth it. Um, he

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Speaker 1: doesn't need that. I wouldn't play him at all, and

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Speaker 1: just find out what you have behind them. That's what

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Speaker 1: you use a preseason for. Figure out if any of

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Speaker 1: those guys can be the number two back. Look, the

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Speaker 1: rookie ran hard a couple of times the other day.

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Speaker 1: You look, he did some nice things Armstead, Yes, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he ended up in the concussion protocol PETE And during

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Speaker 1: the game watching the film, he took a shot he literally,

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Speaker 1: I mean very very physical style of running by the way,

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Speaker 1: which was impressive. And he's going through the line of

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Speaker 1: scrimmage and this is the last play that I saw

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Speaker 1: that he had on film, and he gets kind of

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Speaker 1: wrapped up from the side behind and then here comes

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Speaker 1: the safety and I want to say his number was

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Speaker 1: twenty three, and he was the guy that was um

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Speaker 1: a little a little bit of a uh jerk in

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Speaker 1: practice because he was hitting guys when they didn't really

1278
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Speaker 1: need to be hit. Well, it's game time, so you

1279
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Speaker 1: can hit. Okay, it's okay. Twenty three comes in and

1280
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 1: the crown of his helmet hits Roquell Armstead literally right

1281
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 1: in the chin, and you could but there was nowhere

1282
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,839
Speaker 1: for Armstead's body to go because he had a defender

1283
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 1: draped on his back, and so you just saw the

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Speaker 1: whole head to shake and you went, that was a

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01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: knockout punch right there. And and I didn't see what

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01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 1: happened after that because it's film, and then the play ends.

1287
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Speaker 1: When the play is over, you don't get to see

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01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 1: him walk off the field or anything. And I didn't

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Speaker 1: notice it during the game. So, but he took a shot, now,

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Speaker 1: he took it. He took a really good shot. Who

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01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 1: you said it was from Tony Jefferson did, Yeah, I

1292
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 1: think that's who it was. It was three did three ball.

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Speaker 1: But he stroked him. Now, I mean, if you're if

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Speaker 1: you're a teammate of Tony Jefferson, you're high five and

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Speaker 1: him when he's coming off field on that one. Now, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's a good player. Yeah, he's a good player. He's

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Speaker 1: he's uh, he likes to talk a lot. Yeah, yeah, chippy.

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Speaker 1: So you mentioned the rest of the running backs here,

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Speaker 1: Alfred Blue, Thomas Rawls is back in the practice field,

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Speaker 1: Devonte Mays is out there, second year player from Utah State.

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Speaker 1: What do you like about those guys? You said they

1302
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 1: don't they don't stand up to standard. Look, look, Armstead.

1303
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 1: I like him because he's got a physical style of

1304
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:53,719
Speaker 1: running the football and uh, he's very efficient with his feet.

1305
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 1: He gets north and south. I don't like his catching

1306
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 1: ability now in camp so far, he when he's been

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01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 1: out there and obviously he's not practicing right now, but

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Speaker 1: when he's been out there, he's shown the ability to

1309
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: catch the ball, but he's had like two drops was all,

1310
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 1: which is kind of surprising because when you turned on

1311
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 1: his college tape it wasn't very good. I'm I'm talking

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01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 1: about just his catching ability, So I hope that this

1313
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 1: is something that he can just get better at and

1314
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: improve that. But I mean, once you get past him,

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01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 1: Alfred Blue is kind of a kind of a I

1316
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 1: don't want to say slow, but he's kind of a

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01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 1: long strider. So he kind of gives you the gives you.

1318
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 1: He gives you the impression that he's slow, but he's not.

1319
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:33,679
Speaker 1: He's a glider, he's not. He's not sudden, but he's

1320
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 1: a big body. I think he's an okay backup and

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01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 1: he's a guy that you can trust because he's put

1322
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 1: some time in with Houston Texans. But besides those three guys,

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01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 1: I mean okay, I mean Thomas Rawls got a pep

1324
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 1: and his step a great special teams effort guy. Uh

1325
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 1: coming back from what appeared to be an injured hamstring.

1326
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 1: I remember watching him when he when he appeared to

1327
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 1: pull his hamstring. So far, he's looked good since he's

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01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 1: been back. Um, but but I mean, okay, I mean

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Speaker 1: they might they might address that position after the cuts. Maybe, yeah,

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01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 1: they might, they might address that when you look at

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Speaker 1: the cuts that are coming. You know, some of these

1332
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Speaker 1: teams are these young backs that they found, and you

1333
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Speaker 1: might find the guy off the cuts that it could

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Speaker 1: end up being on that roster. No, you could. I

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Speaker 1: think you're you're not gonna be. I think you're gonna

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01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 1: be like a three running back roster. I don't see

1337
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 1: them keeping more than three. Well, you would keep you

1338
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 1: were you figurally gonna keep fordet in Armstead for sure.

1339
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 1: So for net Armstead, Alfred Blue, that's my expectation. But

1340
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 1: if you found somebody other than Blue, you might get

1341
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Speaker 1: rid of Blue and bring that guy in well. And

1342
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Speaker 1: and if if you keep another guy, it's got to

1343
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Speaker 1: be somebody that's gonna be really good on special teams.

1344
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Speaker 1: And right now, the guy that seems to be the

1345
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Speaker 1: committed the most of special teams is Thomas Rawls. I

1346
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 1: mean he gets it. I mean usually the guys that

1347
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: are in league for a little while that are bubble

1348
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 1: type positional players, they've figured it out. Row is in

1349
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Speaker 1: his fourth year, he's been through this, he's figured it out.

1350
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Speaker 1: I mean, look, I mean, here's the reality. All these

1351
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Speaker 1: guys come from college and we're stars wherever they were at,

1352
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 1: right to some of them, I mean to some extent,

1353
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Speaker 1: I mean different levels of stars obviously. But when you

1354
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Speaker 1: come into the National Football League, if you're not the

1355
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Speaker 1: first or the second team on the depth chart, guess

1356
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:26,679
Speaker 1: what your Your status on the roster is determined by

1357
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Speaker 1: whether or not you can play special teams. So you

1358
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Speaker 1: get to the third or fourth running back JP, can

1359
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:36,919
Speaker 1: you play special teams? That's the first question. As a safety,

1360
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Speaker 1: the third safety has got to be a quality starter

1361
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 1: if he has to take over for injury. But the

1362
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Speaker 1: fourth and and maybe fifth safety, if you keep five,

1363
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 1: guess what? Can you play special teams? Receivers the same thing.

1364
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Speaker 1: Are you gonna keep five and six? Will five and

1365
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 1: six better be able to play special teams? And I

1366
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: think that's one of the things that is could pass

1367
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Speaker 1: Doly end up hurting. Uh. The guy that I was

1368
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Speaker 1: so excited about, Pete Tyree Brady, because in the ballgame,

1369
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Speaker 1: Tyree Brady didn't show a willingness to play special team.

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Speaker 1: But this is number nineteen, the wide receiver. Yes, rookie

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Speaker 1: from Marshall. But Trey McBride ready to go on special

1372
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 1: teams now, fourth year player from William and Mary. Well, yes,

1373
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 1: when you watched him on special teams, Tray McBride was

1374
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 1: ready to go now on special team. So you talk about,

1375
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1376
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1377
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Speaker 1: in my mind, Well, that changes once you get to

1378
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 1: see live special teams and guys start. Now you gotta

1379
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 1: re rank them in trade. McBride right now has has

1380
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 1: gone up a couple of notches. Pete ready to cut

1381
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: the team tonight. I think Logs is ready. I'm always

1382
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 1: ready to cut the team. You know funny because I

1383
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 1: stand at practices JP for every team and I watch

1384
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 1: these guys. There are twenty of them right now who

1385
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 1: know they're not making the team. They do they have

1386
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:03,640
Speaker 1: no shot now, they don't. No, they don't know. Yeah, No,

1387
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Speaker 1: they don't know, Pete, they really don't. I mean, there's

1388
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Speaker 1: a couple of guys that know that they're not making

1389
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1390
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1391
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1392
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1393
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1394
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:28,599
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1395
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Speaker 1: birthday to Joe Fortunado, our manager of radio. How old

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Speaker 1: are you Joe today? Eighty years old? It's a miracle,

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01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 1: sixty one and he wears it well sexy as ever. Wow. Okay,

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01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:24,600
Speaker 1: that's a little far, but that's okay. Whatever. He's my

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01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 1: guy man, because our guy man. He's a great he's

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01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 1: he's a great guy, one of my boys. Man. How

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01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:33,760
Speaker 1: many years we've been working together, Joe? Long time? Long time?

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01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 1: We hope we worked together for quite a bit more time.

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01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 1: A long time. That's right, So Psonado, we make it cut.

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01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:46,599
Speaker 1: Sixty one years young today, and he's responsible for all

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01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 1: the sounds that you hear. Everything that you hear is uh,

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01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 1: it's through something he's pushed or pulled up on the

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01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 1: board or whatever it is. That's that's Joe fortune's true. Man,

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01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 1: he makes it happy. That is right, So happy birthday.

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01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 1: He makes he makes me look good, and all the

1487
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:06,839
Speaker 1: the recorded stuff sound good, not look good. Well it's radio.

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01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 1: Same thing, no, sound literally not the same thing. It

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01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 1: is different. And the reason I say that is he

1490
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 1: is a masterful editor. Sound. I need editing every once

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01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 1: in a while. I'm not like you, j P. I'm

1492
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 1: not like I'm not gonna take take pony or one

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01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 1: from it, far from as Pete knows all about that.

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01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 1: You can. He can make you look good on radio.

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01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 1: Sound good at radio, is not make you look good

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01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 1: on TV Thos high definition, Pete, what are you trying

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01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 1: to say? Pete got a face for radio that I'll

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01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:51,679
Speaker 1: take it. Hey, look, I'm still on TV right yeah,

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01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 1: right now, and you're on the best part of TV

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01:21:55,840 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 1: now is that JP does all my my pre television makeup. No,

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01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 1: that is not accurate, because JP is so talented at makeup. Jack.

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01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:06,680
Speaker 1: I sit down in front of JP and he does

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01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:09,599
Speaker 1: my makeup for TV. That's inaccurate. But I do need

1504
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 1: a lot myself. I mean, now, you do a great

1505
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 1: job with you need to fix that gray hair in

1506
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 1: your beard. So happy birthday. Joe. That started our conversation

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01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: here p. Six one. You believe that, No, he Joe

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01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 1: looks good for sixty one. I'm gonna give a lot

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01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,759
Speaker 1: of credit for that. Now he's like lost some weight lately,

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01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 1: you know, I like it. Yeah, you're gonna have about

1511
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 1: thirty more years because you know how it's Italian guys

1512
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 1: we lift forever. Hey, let's let's move to the quarterback room.

1513
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 1: We've heard from Nick Foles earlier in the program here,

1514
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 1: and you get the feeling that he might not play

1515
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 1: Thursday night. Um, the other night it was gardner Man

1516
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 1: shoe through for what forty three yards in the game,

1517
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 1: Tanner Lee the first drive, was sacked twice and then

1518
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 1: threw a pick six and Alex Magoo came in. It

1519
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 1: wasn't so good, wasn't as good. It wasn't great either.

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01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 1: He threw an interception as well. Um, they're gonna get

1521
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 1: reps obviously, Pete, you know where is this? I mean,

1522
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:10,759
Speaker 1: Mensho was their guy. I think right now as a backup,

1523
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 1: it feels like, well, I mean, he can't evaluate him

1524
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:15,719
Speaker 1: off of that thing. The other night. I mean, my gosh,

1525
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,640
Speaker 1: they played he played the first team defense. He had

1526
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 1: a bad offensive line in front of him. But his

1527
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 1: arm didn't look very good the other night. Now you

1528
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 1: know from watching him in practice when I was there

1529
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:30,560
Speaker 1: and then hearing things about him that was Yeah, he

1530
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 1: doesn't have a great art, but that was worse than

1531
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 1: normal I thought, And so that's a concern. But it's

1532
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 1: too hard to evaluate him based on what we saw

1533
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 1: last last Thursday. No way. Well, and he's a rookie

1534
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 1: and it's the first action that he's ever had in

1535
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 1: a preseason game. So I mean, look, you evaluate where

1536
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 1: the Broncos were at with Drew lock and his first

1537
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 1: preseason game, and it came away how that game totally

1538
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 1: under impressed and so um, look at you give Minshew

1539
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 1: a pass. That's the first game ever. But you also

1540
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 1: evaluate certain things within that performance. You don't evaluate the

1541
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 1: overall and come to a final conclusion. Some of the

1542
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 1: things you evaluate. He got hit in the mouth after

1543
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 1: he dropped the ball and then picked it up and

1544
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 1: got stroked, I mean stroked. He comes back a couple

1545
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 1: of plays later, he's got a unblocked defender bearing down

1546
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 1: on him. He stands in there and he delivers a

1547
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 1: nice throw. Positive, that's a positive thing. That's nice to see. Okay,

1548
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 1: So he's got a little toughness about him. You like that.

1549
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 1: The other thing you evaluate a couple out routes didn't

1550
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 1: seem to have the arm strength. Now is that arm

1551
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:46,360
Speaker 1: strength or is that footwork? Well, we go back and

1552
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 1: you watched the film. You could have seen that maybe

1553
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:50,680
Speaker 1: the footwork could have been a little bit better, a

1554
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:53,799
Speaker 1: little bit cleaner. So is it arm or is it feet?

1555
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 1: I don't know the answer that for sure, But if

1556
01:24:56,920 --> 01:24:59,680
Speaker 1: it continues to show, it doesn't matter whether it's the

1557
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 1: arm or the feet because the end result is not

1558
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 1: good enough. So I want to see more out of him.

1559
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 1: I do know this, and I think feet were a problem.

1560
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 1: And and so when you get a little jumpy and

1561
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 1: you get pressured up the middle and you get hit

1562
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 1: a bunch your feet kind of you got too bad habits.

1563
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 1: And I think that's what it was. That's why I

1564
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 1: think it's so hard to evaluate him. Doesn't mean he's

1565
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 1: always going to do that, but you mentioned it jet

1566
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:31,639
Speaker 1: first start line the whole deal. Sometimes those habits get

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01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 1: away from you. So I want to see how he

1568
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 1: does kind of going forward, and I play him more

1569
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 1: this week with the with the guys, the good players

1570
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:43,680
Speaker 1: who do play that's what I would do. Well, you

1571
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:46,599
Speaker 1: did that last week, you continue to do it again.

1572
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 1: So if but who played nobody played well, I mean,

1573
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 1: if Doug Moron chooses to go the same route this week,

1574
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 1: then you're gonna have a second team offense against a

1575
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 1: number one Philadelphia Eagles defense. Twitch. By the way, Jim

1576
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 1: Schwartz likes to bring a lot of pressure. Hello, Hello,

1577
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:08,640
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a that that will be a

1578
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 1: challenge for the backups of the Jaguars and Garniment she's

1579
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 1: got to be able to handle it. And you hope

1580
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 1: that you have a little bit more health going into

1581
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 1: the game because you had what was that eighteen guys

1582
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:25,799
Speaker 1: that were scratched. There's eighteen or sixteen. It's eighteen because

1583
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 1: the decision and then it was like fourteen others due

1584
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 1: to but enough changing because there were sixteen fourteen. Okay,

1585
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 1: so let's say you still have sixteen on coaches decision ballpark. Well,

1586
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 1: you hope that that fourteen number drops a little bit.

1587
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 1: But right now the way it's looking with with some

1588
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 1: of the players that are out of practice, uh, it's

1589
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 1: not it's gonna be significant, But I don't know if

1590
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 1: it'll be fourteen, but it's still gonna be pretty good.

1591
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 1: What do you think of his arm though, Jeff, all Right,

1592
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, Pete, I mean the end

1593
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 1: result was that the arm the ball didn't get there

1594
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:12,480
Speaker 1: fast enough or on target enough or with enough velocity velocity,

1595
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 1: So is that are like I said, is that armor?

1596
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 1: Is that feat Well? I have a tendency to think

1597
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 1: that it was arm strength. But if a player has

1598
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 1: good for work and an anticipation, he can be a

1599
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 1: very good quarterback in the National Football League if they

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01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 1: have the mind to anticipate the thrones and the positive

1601
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 1: thing that I'm hearing and I talked talked to a

1602
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:34,759
Speaker 1: couple of personnel guys while we were in Baltimore. Pete,

1603
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 1: he is Gardner Minshew, the highest scoring quarterback that they've

1604
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 1: ever seen on the intelligence tests that they give it

1605
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 1: the combine. That's a good song. Yeah, I mean he's

1606
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 1: he's a smart kid. If you watched him play at

1607
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 1: Washington State, I mean he knew where to go with

1608
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 1: the football all the time. He's and it's not like

1609
01:27:57,520 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 1: it's not like he was dinking and duncan now. I

1610
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 1: mean he threw for more yards at the FBS level

1611
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 1: per game than anybody in the nation last year. And

1612
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:11,679
Speaker 1: that offense is complicated at times. Give him, give him time,

1613
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 1: and let's give him another chance. And you know, he's

1614
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 1: a young player, you know, he's could that have been

1615
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 1: a little camp fatigue too, I mean two weeks into camp,

1616
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 1: every day you're throwing a bunch, you know, I mean

1617
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 1: it could have been a lot of things. Could have

1618
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 1: been first game jitters, could have been you know, you

1619
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 1: name it, you know. So, like I said, it's it's

1620
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 1: one game. Let's let's not overreact and come to final

1621
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 1: conclusions on anything about this team or individual players until

1622
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 1: we see more. And and it's always unfair to the

1623
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 1: quarterback in that situation. It's hard. You can't really cannot

1624
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:46,680
Speaker 1: evaluate him. But Jeff, they didn't get the midfeet. They

1625
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 1: got the midfield once. Yeah, they got to the forty

1626
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 1: nine of the Ravens one play and then got moved

1627
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 1: back to the fifty the next that's correct. That's as

1628
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 1: deep as they got. The punter had I think like

1629
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 1: three hundred sixty yards punting Pete. The offense had a

1630
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 1: hundred and twelve yards of total offense net and I

1631
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 1: think they had a hundred nine yards and penalties. You

1632
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 1: gotta figure they're gonna have at least one accident play

1633
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 1: where you get at least their territory didn't happen. That

1634
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 1: was that was a tough night, Pete didn't happen. Let's

1635
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:18,559
Speaker 1: come back. We'll get some Twitter questions. They're rolling in

1636
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 1: on the Twitter tonight. All right, that's not how you

1637
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 1: say it, but I just said it rolling in on Twitter. Um,

1638
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 1: I said the Twitter rolling in on Twitter, I think

1639
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 1: is active. Yeah, I was trying to help you out.

1640
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 1: Thanks man, appreciate that. We'll get to those coming up.

1641
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 1: We'll go around the league as well, including a Dallas

1642
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:39,920
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1643
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Speaker 1: here though he's down in South Florida. Glad you're with

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Speaker 1: us tonight. We've gone through the show and you've messed

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Speaker 1: that up. Yeah, you know, come on, JP, I'm right

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Speaker 1: here beside your brother. I'm glad you are. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to your Twitter questions tonight. Um, we're doing

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Speaker 1: a different way this year. Used to be the Tony

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01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:44,679
Speaker 1: Bosselli Twitter questions, but you know, we're just changing it

1712
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:49,040
Speaker 1: just because because we can open it up to everybody.

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01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:51,280
Speaker 1: So you're gonna make it the Pete Twitter questions. Yeah,

1714
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:54,160
Speaker 1: the Pete Prisco Twitter questions. And I don't like Tony

1715
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 1: even happier. There's a couple that are just to you

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01:33:57,280 --> 01:34:00,000
Speaker 1: tonight logs, but that's okay. Here's the first one from

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01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:04,200
Speaker 1: do Good. Not many bright spots in the first preseason game.

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01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:08,320
Speaker 1: Thanks do Good. But who do you think shined the

1719
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:12,000
Speaker 1: most for the Jacksonville Jaguars? Pete? You want to start

1720
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:19,280
Speaker 1: us on this one? Uh boy, No, it's not tough.

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01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:23,719
Speaker 1: C J revs He he had a really nice yes,

1722
01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 1: but Pete, he took a step back when he released

1723
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:29,759
Speaker 1: a video from locker room. You know, so you gained

1724
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:32,439
Speaker 1: all this traction and in our eyes and then you

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01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:35,360
Speaker 1: do something like that, so dropped it back. I'll give

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01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:39,679
Speaker 1: him that. Yes, I think he played well enough Pete

1727
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:42,640
Speaker 1: to say that, you know, you've got two young starting safeties.

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01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 1: Did he do enough to get in a conversation for

1729
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:50,360
Speaker 1: maybe vying for a starting job starting like over those two.

1730
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 1: I'm just saying is that, you know, Dug Maron made

1731
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:54,320
Speaker 1: the point that he talked about because he was asked

1732
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:56,840
Speaker 1: the question about if you're not playing guys, how do

1733
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 1: you determine who's gonna start? And he made a comment

1734
01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 1: that if somebody is playing and they play well enough

1735
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:05,640
Speaker 1: to catch your eye, then you have to open up

1736
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:09,519
Speaker 1: the conversation again about who the starter should be. Because

1737
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 1: his was a name that was mentioned to me very

1738
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:13,599
Speaker 1: early in the process and as a kid that they

1739
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 1: thought had a chance to push. I don't think he's

1740
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:20,000
Speaker 1: gonna push for a starting job now, but if somebody

1741
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:23,599
Speaker 1: struggles there midway through the season, you might be looking

1742
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:26,600
Speaker 1: at him as a guy. Anyway, it was nice to

1743
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 1: see him play well and it also gives them some

1744
01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:32,840
Speaker 1: some good depth. You hope that trend continues with this

1745
01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:35,639
Speaker 1: level of play. And I will say that after watching

1746
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:38,479
Speaker 1: him in training camp. I don't know if anybody works

1747
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:42,600
Speaker 1: harder than he does in special special teams drills. He

1748
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:45,639
Speaker 1: is committed and he gets it. He understands that special

1749
01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:48,720
Speaker 1: teams are important to him. Well, okay, but if you

1750
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:50,920
Speaker 1: had to make a change in one of those safeties,

1751
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 1: isn't gonna be Harrison. Well let's see how they play Pete.

1752
01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:59,439
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I mean, person's draft pick. And if you,

1753
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:02,360
Speaker 1: if you, I'm gonna do what I do to Tony,

1754
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:05,600
Speaker 1: to you, Jeff putting on the spot. You're suggesting that

1755
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:08,679
Speaker 1: he's pushing for time. He's got to be pushing Wilson. Okay,

1756
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:10,519
Speaker 1: I think you could push either guy. I mean, look,

1757
01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:13,320
Speaker 1: neither one of these guys has shown that their Ed Reid.

1758
01:36:13,400 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I mean one of them gets

1759
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 1: more respect. Ronny Harrison gets more respect because he's a

1760
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:23,400
Speaker 1: draft pick. Jared Wilson it probably doesn't get hardly any

1761
01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 1: respect because he was an undrafted free agent rookie. But look,

1762
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 1: he's a good football player. I mean good enough to

1763
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:32,760
Speaker 1: let two Shaun Gibson go alright, good enough to let

1764
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:37,760
Speaker 1: problem to a young safety nipping. I just say this,

1765
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:40,680
Speaker 1: Neither one of the safeties have have done it for

1766
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 1: a season to where they've shown that they are a

1767
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:46,320
Speaker 1: stud safety. So if you have a young guy that's

1768
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 1: showing himself that he's a good football player, looking and

1769
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:52,679
Speaker 1: what's wrong with having a little a little pressure put

1770
01:36:52,720 --> 01:36:55,360
Speaker 1: on guys that are expected starters by the head coach saying,

1771
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:57,559
Speaker 1: you know that's c J. Reevers. You know he's playing

1772
01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:00,080
Speaker 1: pretty well. Now, maybe he's one of those guys that

1773
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:03,160
Speaker 1: I talked about before that could be pushing first starting job.

1774
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:07,240
Speaker 1: What do the other two guys go for safety? Uh,

1775
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:11,240
Speaker 1: he's a special team or twenty two to Cody Davis,

1776
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:15,639
Speaker 1: veteran player seventh year, that's your special And that goes

1777
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:18,720
Speaker 1: to show you that that is a is a decision

1778
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:22,080
Speaker 1: made purely based on special teams. Well, he was signed

1779
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:26,240
Speaker 1: here based on specialty, absolutely, But I mean there's positions

1780
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 1: that are that are like that more than just at safety.

1781
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:32,839
Speaker 1: The fourth safety spot is going to be a special

1782
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 1: teams consideration. The five and six linebacking positions. If there

1783
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:41,839
Speaker 1: is a six, if you've got enough quality depth, there

1784
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:46,679
Speaker 1: are going to be special teams determined positions. McCray a,

1785
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:51,280
Speaker 1: a third team rush end is gonna be a special

1786
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:54,679
Speaker 1: team's decision tight end. When you get to the third

1787
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:58,400
Speaker 1: tight end and the fourth tight end, special teams decisions.

1788
01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:01,280
Speaker 1: You know, there's about five were six spots on your

1789
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 1: roster that when you start to say, oh, who are

1790
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:10,040
Speaker 1: we going to keep at safety, cornerback, tight end, linebacker? Uh?

1791
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:12,720
Speaker 1: Am I missing any positions? Fullback maybe if you have

1792
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:16,080
Speaker 1: a fullback, but all those positions right there, there's decisions

1793
01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:19,640
Speaker 1: at at those at those positions in backup roles that

1794
01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:25,120
Speaker 1: are special teams determined first. That's it. So maybe five

1795
01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:28,000
Speaker 1: or six positions out of your fifty three man roster

1796
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 1: are positional players, but special teams quality level of play

1797
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 1: is what determines who's going to get those six spots. Well, well,

1798
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:37,720
Speaker 1: I mean like the corners, we can almost decide who

1799
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:39,640
Speaker 1: they are right now. So the fifth cour if you

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01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:41,400
Speaker 1: have a fifth corner, that guy's got to be a

1801
01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:45,040
Speaker 1: key special teams player. Oh absolutely, you're you're so who

1802
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:49,639
Speaker 1: would that be? Right? Because I would think the at

1803
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:53,879
Speaker 1: five the fifth corner position. Yeah, well you got Jalen Ramsey,

1804
01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:56,320
Speaker 1: A J boy A, Trey Herndon, d J Hey, and

1805
01:38:56,320 --> 01:39:03,080
Speaker 1: there's your top four, right, So who's five? All right? Now? Uh? Interesting.

1806
01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:07,200
Speaker 1: Quentin Meeks has been okay, not as exciting as he

1807
01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:10,839
Speaker 1: was last year. He's in the conversation with Brian Borders.

1808
01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:13,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody has better stats than Brian

1809
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:16,840
Speaker 1: Borders in camp so far as far as touching the

1810
01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:20,840
Speaker 1: ball and interception. So but there there again that we're

1811
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:25,519
Speaker 1: we're talking about defensive numbers. You have to evaluate that

1812
01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:30,880
Speaker 1: spot from special teams. So is Brian Borders or Quintin

1813
01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:34,560
Speaker 1: Meeks shown better on special teams? Good question, Well that's

1814
01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:37,479
Speaker 1: how you answer. That's the answer to who is going

1815
01:39:37,560 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 1: to be that next corner to make the roster. There

1816
01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:42,479
Speaker 1: you go. Let's move on to our next question from

1817
01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:46,960
Speaker 1: at Joey Jaguar. Is Cam practicing today just to settle

1818
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:49,719
Speaker 1: the injury panic that was starting to set in. Doug

1819
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:52,719
Speaker 1: was depressing everyone this weekend. But now they're saying Cam

1820
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:56,120
Speaker 1: and Oliver maybe back by week one. Seems too good

1821
01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 1: to be a coincidence. All I know is that I

1822
01:39:58,160 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 1: got depressed Saturday after hearing dog I mean, did I

1823
01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:05,760
Speaker 1: mean right? Was kind of like down about that as

1824
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 1: anything I've ever heard and talk about the other day. Yeah,

1825
01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:13,240
Speaker 1: it was two things. One, if you heard the tone,

1826
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:15,800
Speaker 1: it was kind of depressing. And when you when you

1827
01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:20,680
Speaker 1: get that after you watched the game Thursday and then

1828
01:40:20,720 --> 01:40:26,519
Speaker 1: you hear that, you're like, oh, oh no, right right

1829
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:29,160
Speaker 1: this week two of the preseason. Oh boy. But even

1830
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:34,559
Speaker 1: if you read the script and ignored the the tone

1831
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:41,639
Speaker 1: you went the transcript, Yeah, absolutely right. But they did

1832
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:43,519
Speaker 1: have some news to I mean, I'm just glad that

1833
01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:46,479
Speaker 1: Doug bounced back. Yes, thank you for the rebound today.

1834
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:50,120
Speaker 1: So Cam's back out there. Josh Oliver had a little

1835
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:53,160
Speaker 1: something on the side today the tight end. That's good news.

1836
01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:55,559
Speaker 1: Hopefully they're hoping he'll be back week one now. Doug

1837
01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:58,519
Speaker 1: Maron said that today Williams Williams won't be back for

1838
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:00,519
Speaker 1: a week. When was he when he's ups to be back?

1839
01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:02,679
Speaker 1: Quincy Williams are hoping a week one for him as well.

1840
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:06,800
Speaker 1: Can he This is something I wanna asked, Jeff, Jeff.

1841
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:09,760
Speaker 1: Can he go the entire preseason without playing and walk

1842
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:11,400
Speaker 1: on the field and be a starter in week one?

1843
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 1: Williams you're talking about can he? Yes? He can? If yeah,

1844
01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:23,200
Speaker 1: I think he will, But but I don't I don't

1845
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:27,080
Speaker 1: think that that he's gonna start back to practice week

1846
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 1: one and then play in the game, be ready to rock.

1847
01:41:30,280 --> 01:41:33,280
Speaker 1: I think he'll have maybe two weeks of practice to

1848
01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:35,519
Speaker 1: get ready. I hope, I hope anyway, you know to

1849
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:38,040
Speaker 1: where he's working as working back week one. He's not

1850
01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:41,479
Speaker 1: starting then, No, I mean he could. I mean he could,

1851
01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:44,320
Speaker 1: he could come back and start week one, but I

1852
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:46,599
Speaker 1: would think that you would like to have a couple

1853
01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:50,160
Speaker 1: of weeks with a rookie. So how who starts there

1854
01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:56,080
Speaker 1: then in week one? In your mind? Um? Uh nause good, Yeah, yeah,

1855
01:41:56,160 --> 01:41:59,479
Speaker 1: he's he's athletic now, he is. He is very good

1856
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:02,880
Speaker 1: on opening day, Miles Jack at the mic Good at

1857
01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:07,000
Speaker 1: the will, and then Leon Jacobs at the strong side,

1858
01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:10,960
Speaker 1: Sam So and then at some point does Jake Ryan

1859
01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:15,760
Speaker 1: get back? And then obviously you hope the other day

1860
01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:18,559
Speaker 1: by the way, Quincy Williams gets back. I mean, but yeah,

1861
01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:24,120
Speaker 1: I mean it's a Nagy good by the way, pete. Um.

1862
01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:26,920
Speaker 1: I'm watching him out there on the practice field and

1863
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:30,439
Speaker 1: I'm going, Okay, this guy's in his eighth year. He's

1864
01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:32,960
Speaker 1: bouncing around, right. How many different teams has he been on?

1865
01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:34,720
Speaker 1: Because it has it only been the Cults or has

1866
01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:37,639
Speaker 1: he been on other teams? I'm trying to trying to remember.

1867
01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:40,760
Speaker 1: But anyway, here's a guy that was not a priority

1868
01:42:40,840 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 1: free agent I'll use that term. And he's kind of

1869
01:42:43,080 --> 01:42:45,200
Speaker 1: one of those guys that you could have anybody could

1870
01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:47,240
Speaker 1: have gotten off of the I don't want to say scrappy,

1871
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:51,280
Speaker 1: but out there in the market. He was a Bucks

1872
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:57,000
Speaker 1: draft picks colts, all right, So he's been around the block.

1873
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:00,000
Speaker 1: When you watch him in practice and you watch how

1874
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:02,960
Speaker 1: he moves, I mean he's he got great movement skills,

1875
01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:08,519
Speaker 1: he's athletic. You go to yourself, why was has he

1876
01:43:08,680 --> 01:43:12,479
Speaker 1: so why has he been so well traveled? Because I

1877
01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:14,400
Speaker 1: mean he looks like he's a good football player. Now,

1878
01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 1: I mean good football player, athletic, strong, fast, right, I

1879
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:20,680
Speaker 1: mean that once you look for in a linebacker. I

1880
01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:23,840
Speaker 1: think he's a nice little fine I mean, and if

1881
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 1: he can hold down to fort for however long is needed,

1882
01:43:26,439 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 1: that's positive. Let's get one more question, and that came

1883
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:34,720
Speaker 1: in a little late as the show started today from

1884
01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:37,600
Speaker 1: at I K triad. I guess that is how you

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01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:41,559
Speaker 1: say that, are there any position groups that are looking

1886
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:45,960
Speaker 1: way better or way worse than you expected before camp started? Also,

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Speaker 1: it's a second question. This is there's a two question

1888
01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:53,120
Speaker 1: question here. Okay. Also, how about a two part question

1889
01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:56,360
Speaker 1: part question to this one question? Uh, do you have

1890
01:43:56,439 --> 01:43:59,120
Speaker 1: you found any hidden gyms among the undrafted free agent

1891
01:43:59,200 --> 01:44:03,679
Speaker 1: rookie class? All, it's the second part first, the hidden

1892
01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:06,480
Speaker 1: gems that I identified a couple of weeks in Jeff's

1893
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Speaker 1: if you will whatever on on Happy Hour on Jaguars Thursday,

1894
01:44:12,200 --> 01:44:15,640
Speaker 1: Happy are on Thursday? He's happy are on Thursday. I

1895
01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:17,360
Speaker 1: just want to make sure I got that right. Thursday's

1896
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Speaker 1: happy on Thursday's happier. That's the way to do it.

1897
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Speaker 1: Thank you, give me some nucks. There we go. Uh.

1898
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Speaker 1: Was Charles Jones the tight end, the undrafted guy from

1899
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:30,160
Speaker 1: Tulane and then the wide receiver Tyree Brady, And those

1900
01:44:30,160 --> 01:44:33,479
Speaker 1: are my two guys. Now. I still feel really good

1901
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:37,880
Speaker 1: about Charles Jones, even though he's not practicing, because for

1902
01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:40,519
Speaker 1: a young drundrafted player, for the team to continue to

1903
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:43,240
Speaker 1: have confidence in you and continue to gain more confidence

1904
01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:45,439
Speaker 1: in you, you need to be what's the word, JP,

1905
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:49,960
Speaker 1: We've heard it a million times availability, You need to

1906
01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:53,040
Speaker 1: be available. Well, right now he's not, but I still

1907
01:44:53,080 --> 01:44:55,599
Speaker 1: believe he's pretty good. He had a good game. He

1908
01:44:55,640 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 1: was a little bit overwhelmed at the beginning part of

1909
01:44:57,520 --> 01:45:01,080
Speaker 1: the game against some of the defensive ends of the Ravens,

1910
01:45:01,240 --> 01:45:03,880
Speaker 1: got overpowered a little bit, but then he settled down

1911
01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:07,200
Speaker 1: and did a really good job, finished some really nice blocks.

1912
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Speaker 1: In fact, almost drew a personal foul from who pushed

1913
01:45:12,479 --> 01:45:15,479
Speaker 1: him after a play because now Charles was blocking him

1914
01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:19,599
Speaker 1: down the field. Tyree Brady, on the other hand, Pete,

1915
01:45:19,600 --> 01:45:22,799
Speaker 1: I had identified him because there were times in practice

1916
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:26,920
Speaker 1: that I confused Brady with Chris Conley. I was like, man,

1917
01:45:26,920 --> 01:45:29,400
Speaker 1: that was a nice catch by Conley, and I look

1918
01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:31,559
Speaker 1: and I go, no, that's the nuts. That's a nine.

1919
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:35,360
Speaker 1: It's a one nine, not a one eight. Similar build, Yeah,

1920
01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:38,960
Speaker 1: I thought the same size, guys, And uh so, I

1921
01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:41,600
Speaker 1: mean he looked it did some things. But then in

1922
01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:43,800
Speaker 1: the game, and here's the thing that doesn't help in

1923
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:48,600
Speaker 1: your evaluation process for any wide receiver, and that's the

1924
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:51,880
Speaker 1: performance of the offensive line and the quarterback play in

1925
01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:55,840
Speaker 1: the ball game, which wasn't great. But Tyree Brady on

1926
01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:58,920
Speaker 1: special teams, that's where I'm looking at right, because we're

1927
01:45:58,960 --> 01:46:01,640
Speaker 1: talking about one of those wide receivers that if he's

1928
01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:03,240
Speaker 1: gonna find a way to make the team, he's got

1929
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:07,080
Speaker 1: to do it on special teams. I was underimpressed with

1930
01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:09,920
Speaker 1: his level of play on special teams. But how about

1931
01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:13,160
Speaker 1: a position group either better or worse than you expected

1932
01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:15,240
Speaker 1: before camp. I think all of them out what I expected.

1933
01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:20,160
Speaker 1: I think that I think the receivers are better than

1934
01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:25,040
Speaker 1: I expected. Oh you don't agree, lugs H Well, I don't.

1935
01:46:25,080 --> 01:46:28,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to say I disagree. I think I

1936
01:46:28,120 --> 01:46:31,040
Speaker 1: think I gotta see more evidence to feel that way.

1937
01:46:31,400 --> 01:46:33,960
Speaker 1: I think for a big year, I think Shark is

1938
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:35,760
Speaker 1: taking some steps forward now. I ustill got to do

1939
01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:38,240
Speaker 1: it when it counts, And I think Connoy has been

1940
01:46:38,280 --> 01:46:41,160
Speaker 1: a nice addition. Some drops every now and again, though,

1941
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:43,640
Speaker 1: that's one thing better than what the perception is up

1942
01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:46,000
Speaker 1: in my FA. And they're connecting on some deep balls.

1943
01:46:46,040 --> 01:46:49,160
Speaker 1: They had another couple ones today that JP great. You

1944
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:53,760
Speaker 1: bring up a great point, Pete Uh, because the deep

1945
01:46:53,800 --> 01:46:57,120
Speaker 1: balls that they are connecting on not only in their

1946
01:46:57,120 --> 01:47:01,120
Speaker 1: own practice with against each other, and also in the

1947
01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:04,760
Speaker 1: Ravens practices. There were many deep balls. Now if you

1948
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:10,040
Speaker 1: look at the Jaguars Wide Receiving Corps DJ chart, Legitimate

1949
01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:16,599
Speaker 1: deep threat UH, Chris Conley legitimate deep threat, Keeling Cole

1950
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:22,200
Speaker 1: Legitimate deep threaten d D Westbrook. I wouldn't say he's

1951
01:47:22,200 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 1: a deep threat, but out of those four guys, three

1952
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:28,280
Speaker 1: of them are legitimate guys that can go over the

1953
01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:33,920
Speaker 1: top and win. And Jimmy Smith of the Ravens the cornerback. Okay,

1954
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:39,160
Speaker 1: learned that pretty quickly multiple times. And the Jaguars practice

1955
01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:42,880
Speaker 1: with the Ravens so good. Those are good corners, good corners,

1956
01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:48,600
Speaker 1: Car Car and Jimmy Smith. So that that's something that

1957
01:47:48,680 --> 01:47:52,920
Speaker 1: I think that the Jaguars fans, if that's the one

1958
01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:56,160
Speaker 1: trait that I think is a little bit different out

1959
01:47:56,160 --> 01:47:58,759
Speaker 1: of what we've seen in the past with the Jaguars offense.

1960
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:02,840
Speaker 1: They are more than willing to throw the ball deep

1961
01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:08,320
Speaker 1: with offensive coordinator John D. Felippo, let's come back. We'll

1962
01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:12,320
Speaker 1: go around the National Football League. We'll hit the situation

1963
01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:15,960
Speaker 1: in Dallas, Pete that apparently is kind of not really breaking.

1964
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:19,439
Speaker 1: There's nothing happening over the last hour or so, thirty

1965
01:48:19,479 --> 01:48:22,280
Speaker 1: million dollars, the kids of Moosely, Dirndale. Was he crazy?

1966
01:48:22,520 --> 01:48:25,559
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, We'll get to that. Antonio Brown, all that's

1967
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:28,599
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2015
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2018
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Speaker 1: You got all right, Joe Fortunato's birthday a manager of

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2027
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Speaker 1: birthday cookies. Yeah, I had one of those day chocolate chip.

2028
01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 1: I didn't get one. Manda Holt made a fantastic batch

2029
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:11,000
Speaker 1: of cookies in the office. I was looking forward to

2030
01:52:11,080 --> 01:52:13,679
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01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:16,559
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2032
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Speaker 1: of Joe's. Like, dude, they're gone, all these scavengers. I

2034
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Speaker 1: mean it's a star, right, you know that's right. I

2035
01:52:27,680 --> 01:52:30,200
Speaker 1: mean it's all right. Let's go around the National Football

2036
01:52:30,240 --> 01:52:33,320
Speaker 1: League in our final minutes. Here we start in Dallas

2037
01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:39,120
Speaker 1: where Dak Prescott apparently, well allegedly is turning down thirty

2038
01:52:39,160 --> 01:52:42,240
Speaker 1: million a year because he wants forty million a year. Pete,

2039
01:52:42,320 --> 01:52:45,719
Speaker 1: is this true? And is he nuts? Yeah, it's true

2040
01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:48,760
Speaker 1: and he's nuts, yes, and yes, I mean bottom line, look,

2041
01:52:49,120 --> 01:52:51,160
Speaker 1: you know what happens with the quarterbacks, and it's the

2042
01:52:51,200 --> 01:52:53,599
Speaker 1: next guy up once the biggest deal and doesn't mean

2043
01:52:53,600 --> 01:52:56,439
Speaker 1: he should get it. Uh, if somebody, if the Dallas

2044
01:52:56,479 --> 01:52:59,240
Speaker 1: Cowboys are offering Dak Prescott thirty million dollars a year,

2045
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:02,800
Speaker 1: he should race up there and take it, period, end

2046
01:53:02,840 --> 01:53:06,920
Speaker 1: of story. Uh. He's not that good. He's a good,

2047
01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:09,200
Speaker 1: serviceable quarterback. He's not the guy's going to carry that

2048
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:12,280
Speaker 1: franchise if need be. So he's crazy. If he turns

2049
01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:15,120
Speaker 1: down thirty million dollars, You're dead on the money. Alright, Pete.

2050
01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:18,200
Speaker 1: I would totally agree with you, but I don't want

2051
01:53:18,200 --> 01:53:20,639
Speaker 1: to make sure that people understand that he turned down

2052
01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:25,040
Speaker 1: thirty million a year an extension. It doesn't. It doesn't.

2053
01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:27,920
Speaker 1: It's not like he is going to have his his

2054
01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:31,439
Speaker 1: existing contract ripped up and then he's gonna start earning

2055
01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:34,160
Speaker 1: thirty million a year starting right now. So that's a

2056
01:53:34,200 --> 01:53:40,840
Speaker 1: little different at money. Elliott is a better player at

2057
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:43,559
Speaker 1: his position than Doc is at his dock is more

2058
01:53:43,640 --> 01:53:49,439
Speaker 1: valuable to that team. I don't care what anybody says.

2059
01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:53,880
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I don't know if i'd go there. I mean,

2060
01:53:54,200 --> 01:53:59,000
Speaker 1: I mean the running backs are replaceable, yes, but are

2061
01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:03,040
Speaker 1: you eating Eminem's Either way, I'm hearing crunching. Would you

2062
01:54:03,120 --> 01:54:05,360
Speaker 1: rather my bag? Is open over. Would you rather play

2063
01:54:05,880 --> 01:54:13,120
Speaker 1: back quarterback Cooper Rush and Zeke Elliott or the backup

2064
01:54:13,160 --> 01:54:18,599
Speaker 1: running back and Dak Prescott. I'd rather play the backup

2065
01:54:18,680 --> 01:54:22,120
Speaker 1: running back in Dak Prescott. But tell mean, well, you

2066
01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:24,759
Speaker 1: know that might be debatable now because the backup running

2067
01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:26,960
Speaker 1: back with the Dallas Cowboys is not that good feet.

2068
01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:31,240
Speaker 1: It's Tony Pollard. He's a young Rookie's well, I mean,

2069
01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:32,880
Speaker 1: now he's a rookie. I mean the one that they

2070
01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:37,440
Speaker 1: had last year. The quarterbacks more valuable. Looking back on it,

2071
01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:40,080
Speaker 1: they probably should have drafted Jayla Ramsey. Right, That's what

2072
01:54:40,120 --> 01:54:44,440
Speaker 1: we said right at the draft. I can I can

2073
01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:49,520
Speaker 1: tell you this, Zeke Elliott for that organization has been

2074
01:54:49,720 --> 01:54:53,080
Speaker 1: exactly what they've needed for for where they were at

2075
01:54:53,080 --> 01:54:56,160
Speaker 1: with their quarterback and where they were at as an offense.

2076
01:54:56,960 --> 01:54:59,080
Speaker 1: That was a better fit for them as a team

2077
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:01,680
Speaker 1: than Jay and Ramsey would have been. When he's been available,

2078
01:55:02,840 --> 01:55:10,800
Speaker 1: He's been suspended a bunch, Right, what's happen? Oh, you

2079
01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:12,440
Speaker 1: gotta be careful with the running back. I don't think

2080
01:55:12,480 --> 01:55:14,800
Speaker 1: there's any doubt about that. And he's got what he's

2081
01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:18,120
Speaker 1: got how many years left on his contract? He's got two, right,

2082
01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:20,879
Speaker 1: I mean two more. He's got one this year under contract,

2083
01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:22,720
Speaker 1: and then he's got an option year which they picked up,

2084
01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:24,240
Speaker 1: and he's gotten the next year. So he's got two.

2085
01:55:24,640 --> 01:55:27,320
Speaker 1: He's got too. He's crazy, he's getting a new deal. Well,

2086
01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:30,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't blame him for trying, because I

2087
01:55:30,360 --> 01:55:33,120
Speaker 1: can tell you this is and let me ask you

2088
01:55:33,160 --> 01:55:36,480
Speaker 1: this question, Pete. Is he not worth more than what

2089
01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:40,760
Speaker 1: he's getting right now? About? Yea, yeah. So do you

2090
01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:45,320
Speaker 1: blame him for withholding his services right now and holding now? No?

2091
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Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Especially Gordon is worth more than he's getting

2092
01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:50,240
Speaker 1: right now. But you've gotta be careful with those deal.

2093
01:55:50,640 --> 01:55:52,880
Speaker 1: They can look at Todd Gurley's deal and blame him

2094
01:55:52,960 --> 01:55:56,200
Speaker 1: because the running back market has gone off the edge

2095
01:55:56,240 --> 01:56:01,160
Speaker 1: because of Todd Gurley. Let's move to Oakland. Antonio Brown's

2096
01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:05,240
Speaker 1: saga first is the frost bitten feet. Now now he's

2097
01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:07,360
Speaker 1: threatening to not play anymore if he can't use his

2098
01:56:07,400 --> 01:56:10,680
Speaker 1: old muscle helmet, and the arbitrator has come down and

2099
01:56:10,720 --> 01:56:13,120
Speaker 1: said that he cannot use the old helmet. This is

2100
01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:17,000
Speaker 1: a twelve year old shoot air advantage helmet. H Brown

2101
01:56:17,080 --> 01:56:19,600
Speaker 1: believed to be the only player resisting the new rule.

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01:56:19,640 --> 01:56:21,680
Speaker 1: I think there were thirty players are so grandfather did

2103
01:56:21,880 --> 01:56:25,160
Speaker 1: last year. Now there's a bunch of guys that have

2104
01:56:25,280 --> 01:56:28,480
Speaker 1: had to change helmets, Tom Brady including in that group.

2105
01:56:29,000 --> 01:56:33,160
Speaker 1: But here's the deal, Antonio Brown is better than Days

2106
01:56:33,200 --> 01:56:36,920
Speaker 1: of our lives. I can tell you that this is

2107
01:56:37,240 --> 01:56:40,760
Speaker 1: This is entertainment. I mean, this guy, he's a nut job,

2108
01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:45,440
Speaker 1: he really is. And and and look they're trying to

2109
01:56:45,480 --> 01:56:48,680
Speaker 1: make it safer for you, your knucklehead. Take the new helmet.

2110
01:56:50,720 --> 01:56:53,440
Speaker 1: It's all that's incredible, but you can't see the football. Pete.

2111
01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:57,040
Speaker 1: Come on, man, you're telling me, okay. And here's the thing, Pete,

2112
01:56:57,040 --> 01:57:00,480
Speaker 1: It's not like the NFL is saying, here's your new helmet.

2113
01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:04,440
Speaker 1: You only can have one. It's the only one we

2114
01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:08,280
Speaker 1: have available. There's a they have like twelve helmets to

2115
01:57:08,400 --> 01:57:12,240
Speaker 1: choose from, and every one of them and maybe you

2116
01:57:12,320 --> 01:57:13,880
Speaker 1: might be right, it might be more than twelve. But

2117
01:57:13,920 --> 01:57:17,000
Speaker 1: there is a variety of helmets for him to choose from,

2118
01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:22,440
Speaker 1: and ones that are proven proven that they're lighter, better,

2119
01:57:22,840 --> 01:57:28,960
Speaker 1: far as more aerodynamic, more uh air cooling, and are

2120
01:57:29,080 --> 01:57:32,840
Speaker 1: safer most importantly for you than the helmet that you

2121
01:57:32,880 --> 01:57:35,800
Speaker 1: were wearing. What did you wear? Did you wear Rydel

2122
01:57:35,880 --> 01:57:38,880
Speaker 1: when you came into the league. I wore Riddell when

2123
01:57:38,920 --> 01:57:40,720
Speaker 1: I came in the league, because that was really your

2124
01:57:40,720 --> 01:57:43,760
Speaker 1: only option was RDEL and and I don't think we

2125
01:57:43,880 --> 01:57:46,400
Speaker 1: had many choices. We had a couple of options with

2126
01:57:48,640 --> 01:57:51,720
Speaker 1: did you bring the same helmet? Did I wear the

2127
01:57:51,760 --> 01:57:56,280
Speaker 1: same helmet you're after year? Hell no, I'm not gonna

2128
01:57:56,280 --> 01:57:59,240
Speaker 1: wear the same helmet because after you beat heads with

2129
01:57:59,360 --> 01:58:01,840
Speaker 1: somebody for an entire year, do you think that that's

2130
01:58:01,840 --> 01:58:03,280
Speaker 1: gonna be safe for me to wear it the next

2131
01:58:03,320 --> 01:58:05,560
Speaker 1: year as it would be if I got everything. No,

2132
01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:09,040
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't understand the whole he's

2133
01:58:09,080 --> 01:58:11,240
Speaker 1: at You're right, he's better than days of our lives.

2134
01:58:11,600 --> 01:58:13,480
Speaker 1: It is. It's entertaining, though, I mean, I mean, you

2135
01:58:13,560 --> 01:58:16,720
Speaker 1: gotta love it from that aspect. Here's the disappointing thing.

2136
01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:23,400
Speaker 1: This was a great opportunity for HBO, right and Hard Knocks,

2137
01:58:24,200 --> 01:58:29,440
Speaker 1: and Jon Gruden is ruining it by cuttinging, cutting all

2138
01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:32,040
Speaker 1: this stuff on the editing floor. I mean, from the

2139
01:58:32,120 --> 01:58:35,840
Speaker 1: from the cryogenically frozen foot to the helmet to the

2140
01:58:35,880 --> 01:58:39,400
Speaker 1: non participation in practice, and they're cutting that out of

2141
01:58:39,440 --> 01:58:42,200
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks. This could be the best hard knocks ever

2142
01:58:43,080 --> 01:58:49,040
Speaker 1: and episode I thought disappointing. All right, we've made it

2143
01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:54,400
Speaker 1: through another program, Jaguars Happy Hour, Pete, well done with logs,

2144
01:58:54,400 --> 01:58:57,840
Speaker 1: so easy to talk and be, no yelling and screaming

2145
01:58:57,880 --> 01:59:01,600
Speaker 1: and just good football conversation. Nation. It's a rarity on

2146
01:59:01,640 --> 01:59:04,320
Speaker 1: this program considering who else is usually on the show.

2147
01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:07,320
Speaker 1: Don't get used to it, because Tony Maselli will be

2148
01:59:07,360 --> 01:59:11,040
Speaker 1: back next week for Jaguars Half Here Lougs, thanks so much, man,

2149
01:59:11,480 --> 01:59:13,160
Speaker 1: good to see it. Thank you. By the way, I'll

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01:59:13,200 --> 01:59:17,440
Speaker 1: be the game third day cool Wee, Pete Prisco, Jeff Flagerman,

2151
01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:20,200
Speaker 1: birthday Boy, Joe Fortunao, Brent rebar Our entire crew. I'm

2152
01:59:20,240 --> 01:59:23,480
Speaker 1: JP Shatrick. We'll see you next time. Jaguars Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digital Network