1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:01,640 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 2: It's Verdict with Centater, Ted Cruz Weekend Review, Ben Ferguson 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: with you and I hope you had a fabulous time 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: with your family over Thanksgiving. Now Here are some of 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: the stories that you may have missed this week that 6 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: we talked about. First, up, China flooding, TikTok with Osama 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 2: Bin laden propaganda, getting young people to read his letter 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: to America and then advocate for Osama Bin Lauden's viewpoint, 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: how are we allowing this to happen in this country 10 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: and around the world. We're going to dive into that 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: and what this means with China trying to control the 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: minds of young people all over the world. Up next, infrastructure. 13 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: If you ask voters, it's something they're all in favor 14 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: of better roads. But what happens when the roads turn 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: into woke agenda items. Well, billions and billions of your 16 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: tax dollars that were meant for infrastructure projects are now 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: tied to woke initiative and we'll expose that. And finally, 18 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: education is changing in this country, and that education that 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: has nothing to do with reading, writing, and arithmetic may 20 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,199 Speaker 2: be changing this nation forever. The center will break down 21 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 2: that warning for you as well. It's the Week in 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: Review and it starts right now. This goes into something 23 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: else that I have to bring up, and it's something 24 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: that we've seen on TikTok. Now, if you don't know 25 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 2: what TikTok is, we've talked about this before, quick recap. 26 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: It's an app that a ton of people use, especially 27 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 2: young people, especially young people, and China uses it to 28 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 2: influence young people. Specifically, we saw an unbelievable uptick on TikTok. 29 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: And there's data to back this up of pro Hamas videos, 30 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: pro Hamas propaganda, anti Israel propaganda, pro Palestinian propaganda. 31 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 3: Harvard Pole Audi Harvard Pole recently came out that said 32 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 3: of Americans eighteen to twenty four, fifty one percent believe 33 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: that Hamas's atrocities could be justified, fifty one percent more 34 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: than half of young people. And TikTok is affirmatively pushing 35 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 3: this Prohamas propaganda, this garbage to young people, and it 36 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 3: has an enormous negative influence. And I want to put 37 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 3: on now one video from TikTok that went viral this 38 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 3: week that shows just how. 39 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: Cancerous and it deals with Osama bin Laden so if 40 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: you understand the context of this, there was and this 41 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: clearly is propaganda to meant to influence. And there is 42 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: a letter that Osama bin Laden had put out before 43 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: it was I guess technically right before nine to eleven, 44 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: or justifying the nine to eleven attacks and explaining his 45 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 2: thoughts on why he was doing nine to eleven. This letter, 46 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: decades later has has gone viral only on TikTok. Go 47 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: back to propaganda of China to influence young people to 48 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: believe that somehow Osama bin Lauden was justified in his 49 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: nine to eleven attack the same way that they're justifying 50 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: Hamas's attack on Israel. And this is what Americans are 51 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 2: saying about reading this letter for the first time on TikTok. 52 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 3: Look, so it starts with a woman me when I 53 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 3: got the news in twenty eleven that we got him, 54 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 3: and she's celebrating. Then twenty twenty three reading his letter 55 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 3: to America knowing he was right. 56 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,119 Speaker 2: Oh something, lad, that's what they're talking about. 57 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 4: Actually, before you even read the letter, I did want 58 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 4: to mention in reading the letter, I could only think 59 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 4: of this tweet that I saw the other day under 60 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 4: settler colonialism, any kind of resistance is branded as terrorist 61 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 4: because the only acceptable violence is violenced by the occupier. 62 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 4: So please keep that in mind when reading the Another young. 63 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 5: Person, we really need to stop pan taxes because they 64 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 5: ain't doing nothing but messing up everybody else. And America 65 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 5: is the bully. And it's sad because they have brainwashed 66 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 5: us to think that we was the best country in 67 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 5: the plant on the planet, when in reality we're the 68 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 5: worst country in the planet. 69 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 6: It is just insane because this letter is so well 70 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 6: written and so reasonably structured in an argument, like you 71 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 6: got to present your findings. You gotta you know, you 72 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 6: gotta state your cause all that, Like everything he said 73 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 6: was valid. 74 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: Everything Osama bin Laden said was valid. The guy before 75 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: saying we need to stop paying taxes because Osama bin 76 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: Laden was right. 77 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: And where the worst country. 78 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 2: In the world hashtag free Palestine. It's at the bottom. 79 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: I don't know if you noticed that. 80 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: Look, look, this is all of these are young people. 81 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: This is on TikTok. 82 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 3: These young people are profoundly ignorant. They don't know anything, 83 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 3: but they're also TikTok is deliberately curated. The algorithm is controlled. 84 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 3: The recommendation algorithm is controlled by the Chinese Communist Party. 85 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 3: I mentioned the last classified briefing I went to this week, 86 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 3: ben So. 87 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: The topic of it. 88 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 3: Was social media and disinformation, and so included a number 89 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 3: of folks from the government. This was a joint classified 90 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 3: briefing with the Commerce Committee where I'm the ranking Republican 91 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 3: and the Intelligence Committee. So we met together, and I 92 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: can't tell you what they said, but I can't tell 93 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 3: you the questions I asked because the questions I asked 94 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: are not classified. And the question I asked, I said, 95 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: what evidence do we have specifically that TikTok is affirmatively 96 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 3: and deliberately pushing pro Hamas propaganda. We know that young 97 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 3: people are moving dramatically in the direction of Hamas and 98 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: to what extent is the CCP affirmatively doing that? And 99 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,679 Speaker 3: I'll tell you something again. I can't give you their answers, 100 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: but I will tell you a data point, which is 101 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,119 Speaker 3: TikTok defends itself by saying it keeps us customer data 102 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 3: here in the United States, not in China, although under 103 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 3: its terms of service the CCP has a right to 104 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,119 Speaker 3: access them at any time. You know what it doesn't 105 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 3: keep here in the United States, it's recommendation algorithm. So 106 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 3: the way TikTok operates, you're looking at TikTok, you watch 107 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,799 Speaker 3: a video, and then it suggests to you, hey, Ben, 108 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 3: you would like this video. 109 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: Based on what you've seen before. So if you're looking 110 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 2: at golf videos or tennis videos or football videos, you 111 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 2: would assume they would keep you in the same type 112 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: of algorithm. 113 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 3: Well, a recommendation algorithm is one of the most potent 114 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 3: tools social media has to drive content, to suppress content, 115 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 3: or to drive content, And if you're engaged in propaganda, 116 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 3: the recommendation algorithm is your most potent tool for it. 117 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: The recommendation algorithm is not housed in the United States, 118 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 3: It's housed in China, and China just recently passed a 119 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 3: law that defined TikTok's recommendation algorithm as a quote. 120 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,559 Speaker 1: National asset makes sense. 121 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 3: It is an asset of China, and they have developed 122 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 3: a global propaganda tool that in particular targets American young people. 123 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: And so they can decide on any given day, what 124 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: message do we want to put to young people. They 125 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 3: can just on a Tuesday say let's just push messages 126 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 3: that hurt American young people. So let's push to young 127 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 3: girls and teenage girls body image problems and push anorexia 128 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 3: and eating disorders, and let's push self harm, let's push cutting, 129 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 3: let's push suicide, let's push drug use, let's push all 130 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: sorts of things that will just hurt young people. And 131 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 3: they do that tragically every day. But they can also 132 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: decide politically, Okay, we don't want the United States exploring 133 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: for oil and gas, so let's push Green New Deal 134 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 3: garbage to tell them, go stop fracking, go stop this, 135 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 3: go stop this. Be dependent on Iran, be dependent on Russia, 136 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: be dependent on Venezuela, be dependent on our enemies for 137 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 3: oil and gas. They can push that message to young people, 138 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 3: or if they just want to push pro hamas propaganda, 139 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 3: they can. In this instance, you have young people. 140 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 2: And this went viral to a level of millions and 141 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: millions and millions of millions of impressions. 142 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: Over fourteen million last I saw. 143 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's just people that were posting their own 144 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 2: videos after reading this letter that came out of nowhere 145 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: from two thousand and one from Osama bin Laden, and 146 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: the majority of it was all positive towards Usama. 147 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: Can you got to understand why I mean, this is something. 148 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 3: As you know, I'm at the tail end of a 149 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: two week book tour, so I've been I think I've 150 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: done seventy seven media interviews in the last two weeks 151 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 3: on the new book on Woke. I've been talking about 152 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 3: this a lot because particularly people of the left are 153 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 3: confused why is there such vicious anti semitism among the left? 154 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 3: And I want to let's let's pull this up again. 155 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 3: I want to pull it up and freeze at midway 156 00:08:54,440 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 3: through because it really does explain it profoundly. Okay, so 157 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 3: this is the first woman on the second person. Just 158 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 3: freeze it when the second person comes up. Okay, freeze 159 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: it right here. 160 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 1: All right. 161 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 3: So this is a TikToker and it's kind of a 162 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 3: young hipster wearing like, I don't know, a shower cap 163 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 3: of some kind with pearl stuff. 164 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: I don't know. But this is important. 165 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 3: So I've been explaining and the book Unwoke explains this 166 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 3: at depth. So Marxism is the doctrine enunciated by Karl 167 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 3: Marx and the Communist Manifesto that explains views the world 168 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 3: as a fundamental conflict between oppressors and victims. Marx put 169 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 3: it in socioeconomic terms, So the oppressors were the owners 170 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 3: of capital, the victims were the proletariat, the working men 171 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 3: and women. The solution Marks advocated was violent revolution by 172 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 3: the proletariat overthrowing the oppressors. I describe in the book 173 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 3: Unwoke how Marxist infiltrated the universities in the nineteen sixties 174 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 3: and seventies, and then that doctrine mutated. It mutated to 175 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 3: critical race theory, which has the same basic frame, the 176 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 3: Marxist frame of a pressor and victim, but instead of 177 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 3: socioeconomic it's race. So there are presser races and victim races. 178 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 3: I describe how it mutated to be gender and gender 179 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 3: identity and sexual orientation, same idea of a pressor and victim, 180 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 3: and the idea is violence revolution. Anything is justified if 181 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 3: it is the victim overthrowing the oppressor. Now, this TikTok video, 182 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 3: the text of the tweet he has says, under settler colonialism, 183 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 3: any kind of resistance is branded as terrorism because the 184 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 3: only acceptable violence is violenced by the occupier. That is 185 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 3: straight up Marxism. And it is explaining why, as I 186 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 3: told this left leaning tech executive, the reason the left 187 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 3: is celebrating Hamas. Is they have defined Jews as oppressors, 188 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 3: they have defined Hamas as victims, and so they're in 189 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 3: favor of violence by the victims against the impressors. And 190 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 3: that includes mass murder. That includes targeting civilians. That includes 191 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 3: murdering elderly people. That includes raping women and little girls 192 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 3: in the public streets, that includes slaughtering infants. That includes, 193 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 3: as we discussed, literally putting a baby in an oven, yeah, 194 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 3: and raping that baby's mother while the baby cooks to 195 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 3: death and the mother is being raped and listening to 196 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 3: her infant die in an oven, being cooked to death. Now, 197 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 3: that is unmitigated evil. That is Nazi like. That is 198 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 3: a level of grotesque evil that. 199 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: Defies words. 200 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 3: And yet to the cultural Marxist and to these young 201 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 3: idealistic imbeciles, they're cheering for the terrorist. Why because it 202 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 3: says here, well, under settler colonialism, and mind you, in 203 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 3: their mind it's the Jews that are the bad settler colonialists. 204 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 3: Any kind of resistance, so you know, baking a baby 205 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 3: in and oven, that's a kind of resistance is branded 206 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 3: as terrorist. Well, no, terrorism is targeting civilians. I've got 207 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: to say slaughtering infants qualifies as terrorism because the only 208 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 3: acceptable violence is violence by the occupier. The reason these 209 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 3: young people are so susceptible to this TikTok propaganda is 210 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 3: because cultural Marxism has been taught to them from the womb. 211 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 3: Has been taught to them in kindergarten, first, second, third, fourth, 212 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 3: fifth grade, all the way through school, has been taught 213 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 3: to them in college, has been taught to them through 214 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 3: social media, has been taught to them through entertainment. They're told, 215 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 3: once we say someone is the victim and someone is 216 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: the oppressor, we cheer for violence, for any horrible evil 217 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 3: against the oppressor, because that's the Marxist revolution we support. 218 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,479 Speaker 2: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, 219 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 2: you can go back and listen to the full podcast 220 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two, Biden's 221 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 2: infrastructure spending has now gone woke. It's a great moment 222 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 2: to pause and remind people. If you're Black Friday shopping, 223 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 2: grab the Center's new book, Unwoke. You can grab it. 224 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 2: It's a best seller. You can get on Amazon or 225 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 2: wherever you get your books, unless you're at a bookstore 226 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 2: in California apparently they don't like it very much out 227 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: there in California in the bookstores, but you can grab 228 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 2: it wherever you get your books. I love this part 229 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 2: of censorship. By the way, center, there are quite a 230 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: few bookstores. I've actually talked to friends who have gone 231 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 2: into bookstores. Your book's a bestseller, and if you're on 232 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 2: the wrong part of the country, in a more liberal, 233 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 2: woke part of the country, there's a very good chance 234 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: you cannot find a hard copy of your book in 235 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 2: a bookstore, which is maddening to me, especially since it 236 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 2: is a bestseller. 237 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 3: Well, it is one of the many examples how corporate 238 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 3: America is woke. 239 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: As you know. 240 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 3: Two weeks ago, I was in LA to shoot Bill 241 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 3: Maher and talk about the book, and I actually met 242 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 3: some friends in LA who went to try to buy 243 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 3: the book. And they went to a Barnes and Noble 244 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 3: in LA and they didn't have a single copy of 245 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 3: the book there, and they asked them, okay, search the system, 246 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 3: and they it turned out there was not one copy 247 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 3: of my book. This is what they were told in 248 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 3: any Barnes and Noble in the entire city of Los Angeles. 249 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 3: And they had to actually drive the Long Beach, which 250 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 3: they did to get several copies of the books, because 251 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 3: it was only the Barnes and Noble in Long Beach 252 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 3: that had the copies, and throughout LA they weren't there. Sadly, 253 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 3: we're hearing we're hearing reports of that. There was also 254 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 3: a letter to the editor this past week in the 255 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 3: Dallas Morning News complaining that the big box stores, which 256 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: have lots and lots of books of other books that 257 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 3: you can't find Unwoke, even though, as you noted, is 258 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 3: it is a best seller, was at the top of 259 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 3: the best seller list, and yet the major bricks and 260 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 3: mortar retail outlets are very reluctant to carry it. And 261 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 3: when they do carry it, they certainly don't put it 262 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 3: out on the table in front. They put it off 263 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 3: in the back. The good news is you can order 264 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 3: it online, so I would encourage you go online and 265 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 3: order it. And you mentioned what came out this past week, 266 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 3: and what came out this past week also is is 267 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 3: racist roads and woke infrastructure, which may sound absurd, but 268 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: it's something I discuss at considerable length in the book Unwoke, 269 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 3: and in June, Transportation Secretary Pete Bootage edge announced that 270 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 3: the Department of Transportation it started accepting applications for the 271 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 3: National Infrastructure Project Assistance, Infrastructure for Rebuilding America, and the 272 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 3: Rural Surface Transportation Grant programs. These three programs together received 273 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 3: five point six billion dollars under the so called Infrastructure 274 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 3: Investment and Jobs Act, and the Department of Transportation. 275 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: Under bootage Edge. 276 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 3: Said the grants that would be awarded would support quote 277 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 3: transformational infrastructure projects across the nation. But the Notice of 278 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 3: funding Opportunity issued states that recipients must broadly address quote 279 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 3: equity and climate concerns. And further, it says, quote projects 280 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 3: that have not sufficiently considered the equity and barriers to 281 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 3: opportunity in their planning as determined by the Department, will 282 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 3: be required to do so before receiving funds for construction. 283 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 3: Quote projects that have not sufficiently considered climate change and 284 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 3: environmental justice in their planning as determined by the Department, 285 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 3: will be required to do so before receiving funds for construction. Now, 286 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 3: mind you, what they're saying is if you're actually building roads, 287 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 3: if you're actually building freeways, then that is not sufficient. 288 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 3: And in fact, Pete buddhage Edge made news in twenty 289 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 3: twenty one when he said, quote there is racism physically 290 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 3: built into some of our highways. Now, now that is idiotic. 291 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 3: And I would note that the DOT grants also additionally 292 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 3: target so DOT policies frame road building. Here's what they 293 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 3: call roadbuilding, quote increasing automobile dependence. And so they condemn 294 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 3: highway expansion projects that don't involve electric vehicle charging stations 295 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 3: or bike lane. So it is Remember there was a 296 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 3: lot of hooplaw over all the money to be spent 297 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 3: on infrastructure and roads and bridges. 298 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Well, it. 299 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 3: Turns out Joe Biden and Kamala Harrison Pete boodhah Edge 300 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 3: don't actually want roads and bridges. Instead, they have a 301 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 3: woke agenda to Here's the good news, which is that 302 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 3: that I sent I sent a request for a determination 303 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 3: as to whether this announcement constitutes a rule and receive 304 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 3: that determination, which means that it is subject to being 305 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 3: overturned by Congress by a simple majority vote. And so 306 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 3: I intend to introduce that resolution of disapproval to force 307 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 3: a vote in the Senate. Now Biden can veto that vote, 308 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 3: but in the Senate, we're going to see if all 309 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 3: the people who trumpeted the infrastructure programs support blocking them 310 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 3: from going to roads and bridges on us they are 311 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 3: sufficiently woke and fighting racist roads, whatever the hell that is. 312 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, when people hear this and they hear racist roads 313 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 2: as you just described it there, and you talk about 314 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 2: billions upon billions of taxpayers dollars that's meant for these 315 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 2: infrastructure projects that are now just being turned in these 316 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: woken agenda items. How many members of Congress are behind 317 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 2: this as well, because yes, it's a Biden administration initiative, 318 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 2: but you still got to have some congress people behind you. 319 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 2: Is this just the part of now where we are 320 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 2: in politics where they look at you, they'll say this 321 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: is for infrastructure, straight up lie to you, and then 322 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 2: waste billions of your dollars on woke agenda items like this. 323 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 3: Well, listen, a lot of the left wing Democrats in 324 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 3: Congress are emphatically behind this, so that Bernie Sanders, the 325 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 3: Elizabeth Warrens, THEOCS are cheering this on because this is 326 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 3: the agenda they want. I will say, there are a 327 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 3: number of Republicans who you know, are little bit like 328 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 3: Charlie Brown with Lucy and the football. They listen to 329 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 3: Democrats to say, okay, let's work together on something like 330 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 3: roads and bridges. And the Republicans are like, oh yeah, yeah, 331 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 3: roads and bridges. Those sound really good, and they write 332 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 3: into law funding for roads and bridges. Now, the left 333 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 3: wing Democrats they're negotiating with know fully well, they're pulling 334 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 3: the football away and Charlie Brown is landing on his ass. 335 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: They know that. 336 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 3: But these Republicans are just gullible and they fall into 337 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 3: it over and over and over again. And if they 338 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 3: weren't gullible, they would have written into the statute prohibitions 339 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 3: on the Biden administration doing this because you and I 340 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 3: knew the Biden administration was going to do this, because 341 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 3: that's who they are. They are cultural Marxist. It's why 342 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 3: I wrote the book Unwoke to lay out what it 343 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 3: means the radicals who have taken over our government. And 344 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 3: we have too many Republicans in Congress who are fundamentally naive, 345 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 3: and they just keep running and trying to kick that football, 346 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 3: and the problem getting worse and worse as before. 347 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 2: If you want to hear the rest of this conversation 348 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 2: on this topic, you can go back and down the 349 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 2: podcast from earlier this week to hear the entire thing. 350 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 2: I want to get back to the big story number 351 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 2: three of the week. 352 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: You may have missed. 353 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 2: You mentioned education and how it's easiest way to change 354 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 2: a country in one generation. But there was also one 355 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 2: of the things you said on page sixty four. It 356 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: says how to fight back, he said. A few years ago, 357 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: you walked into your daughter's bedroom and asked what she'd 358 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: been learning about in school. She said she had been 359 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: learning about Christopher Columbus, the quote unquote real story. I 360 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 2: asked what that meant. For the next few minutes, I 361 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 2: heard about the crimes of Christopher Columbus in minute detail. 362 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 2: Every murdered Native American, transmitted disease, and stolen acre of 363 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 2: lamb seemed to be accounted for. I heard that Columbus, 364 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 2: who claimed the land for himself because his straight white 365 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 2: privilege or something like that, had not actually discovered anything 366 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 2: at all, but rather had landed on the shores of 367 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 2: what would come to be known as America by accident. 368 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 2: This quote unquote revolution, familiar to most adults in the 369 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 2: United States, is something that American children encounter sooner or 370 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: later in a textbook. Believing that they've accessed some secret, 371 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: hidden knowledge that the grown ups don't want them to have. 372 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 2: That moment, for me is the moment that terrifies me 373 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 2: for our kids in this my kids generation, is that 374 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 2: we have handed our children over to this school systems. 375 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 2: And it's not just public schools now, it's private schools 376 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 2: as well, who are indoctrinating them in this idea that 377 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 2: America somehow was started on evil, bad motives and that 378 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 2: you should not love this country, but you should be 379 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 2: ashamed of this country. And you had to deal with 380 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: this with your own daughter. 381 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: Look, that's exactly right. 382 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 3: And the problem is this indoctrination is happening in every 383 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 3: school in America. It's happening to every child in America. 384 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 3: And one I describe part of the way that this 385 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 3: book is all about how we fight back. But you know, 386 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 3: as she was saying that Columbus was evil and racist 387 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 3: and genocidal and terrible, and she hated Christopher Columbus, you know, 388 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 3: I just just sat down in her bedroom and I 389 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 3: tried to have a conversation with her, and I said, look, 390 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 3: I'm not deeply vested in making the argument that Christopher 391 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 3: Columbus was some incredible hero. But I said, you know what, 392 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 3: we do have a federal holiday named after him. Do 393 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 3: we typically name federal holidays after evil, racist, genocidal maniacs? 394 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 3: Like might there be another side of the story? Is 395 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 3: there anything admirable about them? And she was not really 396 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 3: able to see much that was admirble. I said, well, 397 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 3: what do you think about getting in three rook rickety 398 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 3: wooden ships and leaving Europe and heading heading west when 399 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 3: you think you're falling off the edge of the world 400 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 3: to explore and discover I mean, I mean, is that spirit, 401 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 3: that intrepid spirit? Is that anything to be admired? And 402 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 3: and And I said, secondly, look, it is true that 403 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 3: Columbus and and and the man who traveled with him, 404 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 3: that that that they carried some some germs that that 405 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 3: that were that were new to to the to the 406 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 3: western hemisphere, and that when they got here some of 407 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 3: the some of the Native Americans died from those germs. Now, 408 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 3: it's also true it was the fifteenth century. They didn't 409 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 3: know what a germ was, so they didn't know they 410 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 3: were carrying it. And and when you accuse him of 411 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 3: mass murder, does culpability matter? Does the fact that they 412 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 3: didn't know what a germ was, They had no idea 413 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 3: they were doing it. Is that at all relevant if 414 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 3: you're going to call him this evil, terrible murder. And 415 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 3: when I talk about in the book is not long 416 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 3: thereafter Thanksgiving of that year, we were talking about Thanksgiving, 417 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 3: and she and a friend of hers from school and 418 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 3: this is when they were in grade school, said said, likewise, 419 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 3: oh Thanksgiving is is is terrible. It's when the pilgrims 420 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 3: were oppressing that the Native Americans. And and you know 421 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 3: again I I made the argument, I think even more 422 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 3: vigorously this time, and I said, listen, it is certainly 423 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 3: right that the settlers that came to America, that they 424 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 3: settled America, and they ultimately conquered America, and they they 425 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 3: committed some terrible acts to Native Americans. But if you 426 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 3: look at the history of humanity in every continent, every 427 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 3: nation was acquired by conquest. And every time there's conquest, 428 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 3: you have one group of people who are conquering another 429 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 3: group of people. By the way, in the United States, 430 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 3: before we were the United States, the Native Americans, one 431 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 3: tribe conquered another conquered another conquered another. And you look 432 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 3: at Europe, you look at Asia. That's the history of humanity, 433 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 3: one group of people conquering another. And anytime you have conquest, 434 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 3: there are horrible things that happen. They're terrible things that 435 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 3: are done. But I said, look in any war, there 436 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 3: were atrocities on both sides. And you know, I asked, 437 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 3: I asked my daughter. I said, you know, from whence 438 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 3: do you think think the verb to scalp was derived? 439 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 3: The Native Americans did some horrible things to the settlers 440 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 3: who came here also, And the connection that I made 441 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 3: for her, and that I make in the book is 442 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 3: those two discussions are interlinked and intertwined. Which is for 443 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 3: all of the teachers and all of the professors and 444 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 3: all of the people advocating that Columbus was evil and 445 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 3: advocating that Thanksgiving is evil because the Pilgrims were stealing 446 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 3: from the Native Americans, it comes down to one antecedent question. 447 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 3: Was the settlement of the New World a good thing 448 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 3: or a bad thing? Was the formation of the United 449 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 3: States of America good or bad? And I'm not neutral 450 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 3: or ambivalent on that question. I think the United States 451 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 3: of America has been the greatest force for good of 452 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 3: any nation in the history of the world, that we 453 00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 3: had produced more prosperity, more abundance. We have liberated more 454 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 3: prisoners and captives. We have shed our blood and treasure 455 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 3: and tears fighting tyranny more than any nation in the 456 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 3: history of the world. Do we have our flaws, yes, 457 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 3: of course. Do we have our problems, yes, of course. 458 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 3: But America, I believe, like Reagan said, is a shining 459 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 3: city on a hill. And I want to make a 460 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 3: special request of our Verdict listeners. You guys are incredible, 461 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 3: You guys are patriots. You guys give me hope and 462 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 3: optimism in America. I want to ask every one. 463 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: Of you please. 464 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 3: Today, when you finished listening to this podcast, most of 465 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 3: you are listening on your cell phones, click over to Amazon, 466 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 3: type in Unwoke, and buy the book. 467 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: Right now. 468 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 3: We have nearly a million unique listeners who listen to Verdict. 469 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 3: If every one of you goes online and buys the book, 470 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 3: it would soar to the very tops of the New 471 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 3: York Times bestseller list. That would drive them nuts. By 472 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 3: the way, and and I wrote this book for the 473 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 3: same reason, Ben, that you and I do this podcast. 474 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,959 Speaker 3: It is right now eleven o three pm on Tuesday, 475 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,959 Speaker 3: Night podcast will come out early Wednesday morning. Why am 476 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 3: I sitting here at eleven o three? Why are you 477 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 3: sitting here at eleven o three? Because we care about this. 478 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 3: We want we want our incredible listeners to be armed 479 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 3: with information and know how to fight to save this country. 480 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 3: And this book is exactly in the same spirit. The 481 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 3: book is I think, interesting and fun. It's not some 482 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 3: abstract academic treatise, but it's designed. When you read it, 483 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 3: you'll enjoy it. And by the way, I encourage you. Look, 484 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 3: if I can be immodest for a second, don't buy 485 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 3: just one. You know Christmas is coming up very soon. 486 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 3: Buy a copy for your mom, buy a copy for 487 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 3: your brother, buy a copy for your next door neighbor, 488 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 3: your best friend. Because the reason that I spend the 489 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 3: time to write these books, the reason that you and 490 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 3: I do this podcast, it is we either persuade and 491 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 3: win hearts and minds, or we lose America. That's what 492 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 3: the stakes are, and that's what this book is about. 493 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 3: It's the exact same thing the podcast is about. 494 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 2: As always, thank you for listening to Verdict with Sentner, 495 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you don't forget to deal 496 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 2: with my podcast and you can listen to my podcast 497 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 2: every other day you're not listening to Verdict, or each 498 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 2: day when you listen to Verdict. Afterwards, I'd love to 499 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 2: have you as a listener to again the Ben Ferguson Podcasts, 500 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 2: and we will see you back here on Monday morning.