1 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: Mets Dream off Season. We've officially started the off season 2 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: a few days until other teams can start to negotiate 3 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: with Pete Edwin. But hey, we're gonna talk about what 4 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: we think the Mets Dream offseason would look like. 5 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: Is this gonna happen? Probably not. 6 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: Could it happen? Definitely. We got all the money in 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: the world. It can happen. We can make dreams come true. 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: Shout out Steve Coen, Shout out David Stearns. Before we 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: get going into it, make sure you guys are subscribed 10 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: to Mets s Up. We do appreciate we're gonna be 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: uploading all off season long, rumors, news, trades, anything that's 12 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: going on. You're gonna want to be here, So make 13 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: sure you are subscribed. And if you want to listen 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: to us Apple podcasts, Spotify, Google drops the rating, drops 15 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: a review, download and subscribe. 16 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: James, where do you want to start with our dream 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: off season? 18 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 3: I think that there's literally only exactly one place to 19 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: start all season. Everyone's like the Mets in the Frontline 20 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 3: starting pitcher. The Mets in the Frontline starting pitcher said, 21 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 3: if you times in the show, so far as this 22 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 3: offseason has kind of begun now is really here the 23 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 3: best picture in baseball is available. You have to go 24 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 3: do whatever you can together. In the Mets dream off 25 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 3: season starts and ends with TERRYF Schouoball and the Blue 26 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 3: and Orange next Day for all. Yeah. 27 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean if if we get TERRYF Schouble and 28 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: sign them to an extension, if it's like a sign 29 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: and trade, we might be repeating wan. 30 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: So on a SODO episode part two. 31 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. Actually, yeah, actually, do you want to make that packed 32 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 4: right now? 33 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll make that packed. 34 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: I'll shake with you, We'll we'll do Oh man, We're 35 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: gonna have an all nighter at Ice House in Brooklyn 36 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: and we will record the episode as soon as we 37 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: get home. 38 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 4: Yes, but half before half after, Yeah. 39 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: Before half after, Yeah, because that's what it was, So 40 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: I forgot it's half before half after. 41 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 3: It is also just funny that the fact that it's 42 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 3: this is similar things. Again, so it's not the best tit. 43 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 3: Theer in baseball is one of the few, but Terrff 44 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: Schooble is the best picture in baseball. The fact that 45 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 3: both of these guys can be available and back to 46 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 3: back off seasons and as an organization for all that 47 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 3: went wrong this year. The mess have positioned themselves in 48 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: both cases to make the best case for a both 49 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: guy to come and solo. It worked, And again a 50 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 3: lot of people don't like the results of the team 51 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: this year. You can't really say shit about him. No, 52 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 3: this could be a point where if you just bring 53 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 3: Terrek school Ball in next year and you have a 54 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: full season of Nolan McLain, all of a sudden, everything 55 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 3: else on the team looks really, really good. You change 56 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 3: everything in one shot. 57 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: And while people want maybe to not give up as 58 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: mace prospects as you think for schoolball, we know the 59 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: price is not gonna be as high as people think. 60 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: And the Dodgers are going to get better this offseason. 61 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: The Blue Jays are going to get better, The Yankees 62 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: are gonna get better, the Phillies are gonna get better. 63 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: You're gonna see a lot of teams that were close 64 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: to winning the World Series, including the team that did, 65 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: want to improve. 66 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 2: And the Mets have to make big improvements. 67 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: And there's no bigger change to this team that they 68 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: can make than going out and getting Terift Schooble. 69 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 3: And it's the kind of thing that in one shot 70 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: really just revitalizes the whole team again. Like I said 71 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: before you saw it, what happened with the Red Sox 72 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 3: this year. When you put the real ace on top 73 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 3: of a rotation of mostly middle rotation guys, Suddenly everybody 74 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,839 Speaker 3: has a pep in their step. Everyone's all their shoulders higher, 75 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 3: the bullpen gets a little bit more of a break, 76 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 3: the offense doesn't have as much pressure on them. And 77 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 3: we've talked about this with mess for a while, maybe 78 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: not needing an ace, but because the other aces that 79 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 3: we were talking about that we thought were available are 80 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 3: in aces either like with going out and trading for 81 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: terror Schooble, even with the loss of prospect capital, and 82 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 3: even before we talk about the extension, it's just it's 83 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: the best guy. 84 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 4: It changes the whole thing. 85 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 3: Like it's not like Dylan C's, it's not like fran Vivalda, 86 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: it's not like Michael King, it's not even like Joe Ryan's, 87 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 3: not even like Frethie Feralta. Like this is a different, 88 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 3: a completely different eacheal aunt of guy two or three 89 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 3: tiers above every single guy we just named it. 90 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 4: It changes the entire organization in one second. 91 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, they would instantly become a significantly better team. Like 92 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: imagine a rotation where you have schoobl McLean, Sanga Manaiah, 93 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: Clay Holmes, because you can't forget to Slay Holmes, Peterson. 94 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: Sprote Tom. You have all these options. 95 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: I know one of those guys would eventually get traded 96 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: for Terif Scouble, but just telling you about the options 97 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: that we have, and then the loaded farm system too, 98 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: they have room to make more. You can go get 99 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: Schooble and still improve this team in other ways that 100 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: will make this actually a complete. 101 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: Roster for the first time in a while. 102 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: You go from basically getting into the season. If the 103 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 3: Mets go into the season with the exact rotation right now, 104 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 3: which not saying they will, I don't. 105 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 4: I do not think it's any chance they do. 106 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 3: But you probably have like the twenty first best rotation 107 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 3: in baseball. I'd say with our guys now twenty twentieth, 108 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 3: between between nineteenth and twenty third best rotation in baseball. 109 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: You get Schoogle and you put them on top of 110 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 3: what we have. I would tell you a second or 111 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 3: third truthful. Yeah, it's only probably probably only clearly behind 112 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 3: the Red Sox. I mean the Dodgers and maybe seeing 113 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 3: if Garrett coles one hundred percent of himself, maybe the 114 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 3: Yankees challenge for that. Sners Marie, Let's see, let's see 115 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 3: what another year, because I think Bryce Miller right now 116 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 3: is more of a question mark much more who was 117 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 3: last year? And we need to see if Brian Wu 118 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 3: has a major surgery. But I think these are all 119 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: top five types of rotations. But that's with getting the 120 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 3: one guy to throw on top. You tie the whole 121 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 3: thing together and in revolts you that much. 122 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, terror School is just that good. Him 123 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: alone in a rotation puts you in the top ten, 124 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,559 Speaker 1: probably automatically. 125 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 4: Even just to talk about getting him impossibly reset. 126 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 3: So we talked about the idea that we think that's 127 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 3: actually more possible than some might think, even though he's 128 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 3: a Scott Boris client, just making him the highest paid 129 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 3: pitcher ever. I do wonder if you can even kind 130 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 3: of get him for under forty million dollars luxury tax 131 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 3: penalty per year, depending on deferrals, depending on signing bonus 132 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 3: and everything, maybe front loading back and somebody wants to. 133 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: Do a deferral besides fucking the Dodgers and Shoho Tani 134 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:22,799 Speaker 1: and trum and Aya. 135 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 3: And I also wonder what does it look like to try 136 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: and go to Schoogle and Boris before the open market, 137 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 3: being like, we have these deferrals. You see that guy 138 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: on your team, he doesn't have deferrals. Why are we 139 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 3: going to get deferrals? Then if you say because of 140 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 3: market restraints, market market, what's called market environment, like, oh, 141 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 3: we'll just go to the open market. Then we'll see 142 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: you guys later. So I do the leverage idea of 143 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 3: this will be funny if you actually might get we're 144 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 3: seventeen steps ahead of real life right now. Because this 145 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 3: is a dream offseason. Why not We're talking about Teriff 146 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: Schooble's potential potential contract extension. 147 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 4: How you actually are able to do that? 148 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: And then what team building looks like if you have 149 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty five million dollars of luxury tax 150 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:56,799 Speaker 3: tied up in three guys. 151 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: And I will say this as while we are saying 152 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: it's a dream off season, this is these are all 153 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: totally doable. These are all things that, yeah, this one 154 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: is is totally doable. Like the Mets are very much 155 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: in it for Schooble. Again, the Tiger should't trade him, 156 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: the should keep them there forever, but as long as 157 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: he's available, not signed to any extension with the Tigers. 158 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: I think the Mets are one of the front runners. 159 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 3: And now knowing that even last year he was only 160 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 3: offered four for eighty, Like, I don't think that's a 161 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 3: good faith negotiation or a good fan and the Tigers, 162 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 3: that's not a guy probably even that is that motivated 163 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: to stay there long. 164 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 2: Coming off the cy Young that's crazy, that's crazy. That 165 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:27,559 Speaker 2: was your offer. 166 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: Like we all knew he was the a top five 167 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: pitcher last year coming into the season. 168 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: Then he did it again. You're like, he's the best 169 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: pictuer in baseball. 170 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 3: And again you're at the time like you're trying to 171 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 3: buy out two years of arbitration where schooble that thing 172 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 3: is going to make I think last year was twelve 173 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 3: or thirteen. I mean last year, I think it was 174 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 3: about twenty and this year is going to be twenty 175 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 3: five his last year of arbitration. So right there, that's 176 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 3: two years, forty five million dollars. You've already kind of 177 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 3: ruined what that offer even could be and should bad. 178 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: Bad, disrespectful? All right, we know we want Schooble. Next up, 179 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: we got to figure out what's going on with Pete 180 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: Edwind and truthfully, in a dream scenario, I'd like them 181 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: both back. I think there's a world where both of 182 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: these guys are back. Who do you think is more likely? 183 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: Though, James, the only thing. 184 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 3: That's throwing me off is that freaking Andy to Como 185 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 3: article we both read the week and a half ago. 186 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 3: But I still think that he's losing his fastball. I 187 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 3: still think Edwin has to be, for sure the more 188 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: likely guy. It just seems like this is something that 189 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 3: no one wants to change. The fact that he already is, 190 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: by av the highest paid reliever in baseball. The fact 191 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 3: that we could basically just be like, here's two more 192 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 3: years in that same AAV you can still be the 193 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 3: highest guy in baseball. You get two more years of security. 194 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: I just that to me feels like more of a 195 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 3: no brainer than Pete. Where we know that last year 196 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: Pete and the Mets and David serin Is and Steve Cohen, 197 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 3: it was kind of a peering pass. It was really 198 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 3: it never seemed tenuous. He wasn't going to be there, 199 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 3: at least from our perspective, But it does seem like 200 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 3: he wants something different than the Mets were willing to 201 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 3: give him, and that's kind of where the sticking point 202 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 3: seems to be. 203 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, the one thing that gets me caught up with 204 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: Edwin is how you mentioned the two years he might 205 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: want four and be like two more good. He might 206 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: want like a four or five year contract one hundred 207 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: million dollars, and I don't think that's ridiculous for Edwin 208 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: to ask. That's where I get the risk about what 209 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: Sterns and Cohen might be willing to do for a 210 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: closing pitcher. 211 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: That's the one worry I will. 212 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 4: Say though, but again also at the same time that. 213 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: We still have important closers and ending the game is 214 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: at the end of a series, especially in the World Series, 215 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: Chef Hoffman giving up the home run to Miguel Rojas 216 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: and then the Dodgers scrambling to have anybody but. 217 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: Their reliever's pitch. Having a guy like Edwin. 218 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: I know in the past we've talked about that Stearns 219 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: would love to trade Edwin in his contract, but now 220 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: I've flipped because he's so money. 221 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: Because he's so. 222 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: Cash, it's got to be so easy to build out 223 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: the rest of the bullpen where you can have some chaos, 224 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: you can have some fun knowing that when you have 225 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: a lead, three, sometimes even four or five six outs 226 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: are guaranteed by Edwin Diaz. 227 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: And I think this is also part of the idea 228 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: of a dream offseason. But also in the dream off season, 229 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 3: we're always going to have be a little bit realistic. 230 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 3: That's just who Mark and I are. We can't let 231 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 3: our minds get that crazy. You know that if you 232 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 3: do sign Edwin, you kind of give up a bit 233 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: of the rest of the bullpen, because again, he's going 234 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 3: to be the highest paid reliever in baseball next season, 235 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 3: whether it be for the metsa for somebody else. But 236 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 3: he is so good that I think that's worth it. 237 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 3: But then the question becomes, how long is edwind d 238 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 3: as this could And I think that question that's a 239 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 3: conversation we haven't really even actually had yet on this show. 240 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 3: Just funny enough based and everything else that's gone on. 241 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 3: The people in the Messed Up Discord, we're talking a 242 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: lot about that the other day. If you guys are 243 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 3: not in the Messed Up Discord, we'll drop the link 244 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 3: for that below. Lots of great conversations in there lots 245 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 3: of great folks hanging out. But we always talk about 246 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 3: the fact that Edwin is just simply the two pitch guy, 247 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 3: two pitch guy. Two pitch guy's never even close to 248 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 3: getting a third one going here, And as you age, 249 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 3: you just you're going to naturally lose velocity, like he's 250 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 3: gone from one hundred to ninety nine to four years less. 251 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: So maybe it is more possible than we think because 252 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 3: you don't actually need that. Even Chapman, though, has a 253 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 3: few more pitches, but. 254 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 1: Chapman is also built very differently than Edwin. Edwin is 255 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: is a gangly string being where a roulea Chapman's pump 256 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: and iron and the dudes fucking built like a brick 257 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: shit house. 258 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: And the thing about Edwin's that you've been asked he 259 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 3: is losing velocity. He's not losing extension. You don't lose 260 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 3: your extension. His arms are not going to get I mean, well, 261 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 3: we know the lakes were different sizes last year, but 262 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 3: his arms are not getting short. He still strides the 263 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 3: whole way down the damn mounds. So you do I 264 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 3: do have faith that while Van d he As is 265 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 3: thirty one now even you signed him through his age 266 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 3: thirty five season. Right now, he signed through his age 267 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 3: thirty three season. Even if it goes down to ninety 268 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 3: four and a half ninety five with the extension, I 269 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: still think he's a plus. Maybe not the best closed 270 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 3: in the league three years from now, but I still 271 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 3: think you have at least two more years of him 272 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 3: being a clear, absolute, bona fie top two guy. 273 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, without a doubt, without a doubt. 274 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: And then just to talk a little bit more about 275 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: Pete obviously, I mean, if you look at WRC plus, 276 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: I think Pete had the highest WRC plus. I'm unqualified 277 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 1: first baseman this year. You're looking in terms of just 278 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: sheer offensive firepower numbers. 279 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 2: Pete is up there with the best. There's no doubt 280 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 2: about it. 281 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: So the conversation that we'll have after this is about 282 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 1: replacing Pete, because regardless if we don't get Pete, we 283 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: need a new Pete, we need a new first baseman. 284 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: But he's the best option out there to play first 285 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: space for the New York Mets next season. 286 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 4: I think so definitely. 287 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 3: And there's a lot of people right now throwing around 288 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 3: this idea of you know, Josh Nayler. I think Josh 289 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 3: Nayler became very famous and very noteworthy this postseason. I 290 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 3: think Josh Nayler is a great player, but he's someone 291 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 3: that from the outside, I think, like what joshn Aller 292 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 3: does a lot more, but from the inside when he 293 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 3: does six weeks of a four hundred day the ops, 294 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 3: but then he goes blazing hot after that, which is 295 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: not so dissimilar to Pete, it does feel different, and 296 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 3: I think it is still a lot again, this is 297 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 3: this is gonna be a big take right here. The 298 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 3: fifteen extra home runs mean a lot to me. 299 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 4: I love I love daying. 300 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 3: Maybe I think the way this mess team is built 301 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: out right now, I think the home runs are even 302 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 3: more valuable to us because solo is a home run. 303 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 3: Hither please not top of the league home run Heather 304 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 3: Physical and Dooran count is what acount of was this year. 305 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: It probably maybe so will be. But it's him, Lindor 306 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 3: will know the deal is going to be Nimo. We're gonna 307 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: talk about him on in his sec but you just 308 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 3: need some home runs. The team right now, it doesn't 309 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 3: have the most elite crop of next level heaters in 310 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 3: the league. It covers up a lot of the issues 311 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 3: that you could come across. 312 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is where sometimes OPS is not the same, 313 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: because you can look at an ops and they can 314 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: be the same. But then you see fifteen extra home 315 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: runs from Pete as opposed to like the twenty maybe 316 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: extra hits that Josh Naylor has, and take the home 317 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: runs over those extra hits every single time. 318 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 3: And a lot of the batspeed data that we have. 319 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 3: There's a great tweet the other day by Justin Troy. 320 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 3: Justin has done work for fangrass before and he's he 321 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 3: puts out a lot of great public public data that 322 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 3: we can all see. He did his own batspeed agent 323 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 3: curve that looks really great to me. And it's something 324 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 3: that we've kind of hypothesized on the past that there 325 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 3: is a bit of a stagnation of your bat speed 326 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 3: in these early thirties years and then the real downtick 327 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,719 Speaker 3: will come once you're thirty five, thirty six years old. 328 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 3: And we keep talking about again this is our dream 329 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 3: off season, wanting Pete back, but being scared of thirty 330 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 3: six year old Pelanzo. Yeah, and this is their dream offseason. 331 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 3: So again we get back to like the four for 332 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 3: one to twenty. For Pete four for one ten, you 333 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 3: start to get in a situation where I think that 334 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 3: it's you're still getting an elite player for a few 335 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: more seasons. 336 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: Would you rather sign Pete four for one twenty or 337 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 1: five for one to twenty five. 338 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 4: Four for one twenty? Just take off the story, hear, 339 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 4: no matter what. 340 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 3: But let's even say this part of our dream off season, 341 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 3: and this is kind of how we're going to move on. 342 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 3: Talk a little bit about this part of the dream 343 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 3: off season. I think is building the best team for 344 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 3: next year as possible. And there's a good chance that 345 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 3: the best Mets team next year doesn't have as much 346 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 3: planso playing the field, And I don't know if that's 347 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: something that he's will to accept at this point yet, 348 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 3: but I think it's going to be a huge part 349 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 3: of negotiations, both of the Mets and for every other 350 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 3: team to anchor Pete more so as a DH and 351 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 3: then for the Mets specifically, part of our dream offseason 352 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 3: just get more athletic. 353 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 4: We need to be better defensively. 354 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 3: Watching the end of this World Series, the types of 355 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 3: bang bang plays, the types of defenders that these teams 356 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 3: had almost every position on the field. As these games 357 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 3: got tight, you can feel the magnitude of it. That's 358 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 3: why the Vladie mcgrare junior made that made you viral 359 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,599 Speaker 3: mark in game three before the chaos there. That's not 360 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 3: to play. Pi Alonzo could ever make it in the 361 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 3: history of this world. Pelonzo can not throw a ball 362 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 3: that hard. Just can't, especially not on target. There's no 363 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 3: chance of that. So it's just understanding how much little 364 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 3: things are affecting every position. 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They want 391 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: to win, but they also want their legacy. They want 392 00:14:58,280 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: to be considered one of the greatest wall time. And 393 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: we know when you play DH doesn't have as much 394 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: shine as if you were a first baseman. I mean, 395 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: Joe Maller played catcher for less games than he played 396 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: first base. I believe people still talk about him like 397 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: a catcher. So it's all about the narrative thing. And 398 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: for Pete, he's talked about he wants to be one 399 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: of the greatest home run hitters of all time. You 400 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: hear Boris talk about how he's the best power hitter 401 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: in baseball all the time. Narrative right there, All the 402 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: narrative is there. So Pete is definitely focused on the 403 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: narrative by the end of his career that he was 404 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: a first baseman not a DH. 405 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 4: And again maybe that's just something kind of might have 406 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 4: to get over a little bit. 407 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: He definitely has to get over it. 408 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 3: You have to look inside yourself and be like, Okay, 409 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 3: for as long as I've been in this team, there 410 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 3: keeps being a spot we can't get over the hump, 411 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 3: Like you have to then started using anything possible. You 412 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 3: don't even want to blame yourself as a person in 413 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 3: these situations, but just taking a real honest look, what's 414 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 3: the best version of this Mets team, especially when there's 415 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 3: a relatively affordable, great defensive first basement out there and 416 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 3: Ryan O'Hearn, who could work as a great platoon partner 417 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 3: for Pea because p Hee can still play first base 418 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 3: when they got Lefty on the mounds and a Hern's 419 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 3: going to be on the betch the situation like that 420 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 3: where he's still getting his fifty to seventy games a 421 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 3: first base in the season, but in the other days 422 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 3: giving up a little bit of what you want for 423 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 3: yourself and letting the team improve because someone else's better 424 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 3: defensive player than you is would be great, would be 425 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 3: honestly awesome to watch. 426 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: And again dream, I'm happy dreaming Pete Alonso play one 427 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty two games at the first base next year. 428 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 2: No complaints for me in a dream. 429 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: World he plays a little DH when we get another 430 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: first baseman that can also hit there too, because one 431 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: of the big problems was we didn't really have a 432 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: legit DH. 433 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 2: I know Jesse Winker was hurt. That was a big 434 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: part of the problem. 435 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: But we can't go into a season where like Starling 436 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: Marte is getting a lot oft the DH at bats. 437 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 3: No, And that's part of the next like this same 438 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 3: dream scenario where with Pee being a DH, she's getting 439 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 3: another trustworthy position player. Because as it's heading into right now, 440 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 3: based on the guys on this Mets roster, like you know, 441 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 3: we're talking about Pete, Mark Fancis, Pennsylvan's a first baseman, 442 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 3: and Ryan Rizos Pensylvan is DH with Tyron Taylor still 443 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 3: Pensylvan in the center fielder. And that's including a bench 444 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 3: of players under contract of ready for this name. 445 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 4: Nick Madrigal in a contract. 446 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 3: I think he's under trasn Luisa Helicouny and Jared Young. 447 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 3: So if I'm telling you that group position players, even 448 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 3: with the massive trust that you and I have for 449 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 3: Brett Bay and Francisco Al forres, you just need another 450 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 3: guy there who's going to be a guy you have 451 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 3: to find like a guy. 452 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, they need to find some, like you said, 453 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: more athletic, better defensively players, guys who can help out 454 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: this roster because there is not a lot of athleticism, 455 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: especially with the guys on the corners, the older guys 456 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: in the outfield. It's just we need to find a 457 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: way to be better, and you heard Stearnes talk about 458 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: that a lot. Maybe part of the way to get 459 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: some better guys too is maybe moving on from Brandon Nimo. 460 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: I know this is gonna sound maybe crazy to some, 461 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: but as good as Nimo is, it's a similar kind 462 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 1: of conversation with Pete where it's like, oh, it's it's great. 463 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: Brandimo is awesome. We know the value brings to this team, 464 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: but it's kind of been part of the same group 465 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: of guys that can't get over that hump. 466 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 3: And at the same time, he does a lot of 467 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 3: things that you like a baseball player to do, especially 468 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 3: now at this point his career, like Brand Nemo can 469 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 3: hit for power, Brand Nemo's. 470 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: Not always giving up base stuff, which kind of kind 471 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: OF's weird. 472 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 3: Well, we're we're talking about that though little bit in 473 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 3: both ways, where it's like sometimes the home runs are valuable, 474 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 3: but still I mean again, if the on base PERCENTAGEO 475 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 3: just get back to three fifty, doesn't have to get 476 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 3: back to four hundred, but just up from three twenty. 477 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 3: It's just it's there's been a lot of push to 478 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,239 Speaker 3: pull for Brandon Nemo, and I think he's a guy 479 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 3: you don't really say this a lot. He's really maximized 480 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 3: his abilities a lot like Brand Nemo's development as a player, 481 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 3: and we've watched his whole career is played a thousand 482 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 3: games as I met, can't remember the last guy that 483 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 3: did that did that. 484 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 4: It's cool to see. 485 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 3: But at the same time, the best version of this 486 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 3: team just might think about the arms we saw this 487 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 3: World Series game. 488 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 4: We talked about fla. 489 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 3: Before, but like even just the confidence of someone like 490 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 3: Andy Pai has made in Game seven going up and 491 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 3: getting that ball in center fields when he's had the 492 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 3: worst World Series ever, Like, it's just there's there's something 493 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 3: about knowing the strength you can bring to a team 494 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 3: and having the confidence to bring them when you're ready to. 495 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and brand Neimo. Defensively, it's just not that guy anymore. 496 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: And offensively, while there's still some good stuff going on, 497 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: There're not gonna say he's a bad hitter by any means. 498 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: We saw the ebbs and flows of the season with him. 499 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: It's something that maybe doesn't fit as well for this 500 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: Mets team, this Mets roster moving forward. Now, you would 501 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: only trade Nimo if that means you're getting better at 502 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: other positions. This is not a cell Nemo, get rid 503 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: of him, get prospects. This is a major leaguer for 504 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: major leaguer move I don't know who would necessarily be. 505 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: It's a big contract where Nimo has no trade clause. 506 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: He might never want to leave the Mets. He might 507 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: want to be here for the rest of his life, 508 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: which probably why you signed that contract, along with the 509 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: fact that it was so much money. But having Nimo, 510 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: having Vientos, having Soto, similar guys where it's like corner 511 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: guys not particularly great defensively at their positions, you'd love 512 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: to be able to have them DH sometimes as well, 513 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: like if he's playing for a space against the lefty 514 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 1: or whatever that scenario is. You can't really have these 515 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: redundant pigeonholed players as much as you are. Soto is 516 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: the exception because he is so unreal offensively. 517 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 3: I think that also plays into his dream offseason where 518 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 3: I mean, you might put them in the thumb now, 519 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 3: but I'm sure some Mets fans will be like, give 520 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 3: me kyleege war but it to be the DH dream 521 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 3: offseason where them one hundred percent. But in the dream offseason, 522 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 3: I do think if you can't move on from a 523 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 3: guy like Brandon Neimo and who knows what winds up 524 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 3: happening with someone like Mark Fianzo's mp A Lonzo, it's like, 525 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 3: who you just can't. This Mets roster isn't built in 526 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 3: a way right now where you can really probably clog 527 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 3: up with an everyday DH. 528 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: The only guy you could is Schwarber. That's the diffuse. 529 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: He's that good, Yeah, but. 530 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 4: In the dream off seasons, he partly of your dream 531 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 4: off season. 532 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, he would be in a dream off season, I'd 533 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: want Pete at first, Kyle Schwarber, DH we trade Vientos, 534 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: go get some center, go get Louis Robert, put him 535 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: in a package for Luis Robert, even if you need 536 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 1: to include another prospect or whatever it would be. 537 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 2: And I'm okay with leaving Nimo. 538 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: I'm okay with having second base kind of be a 539 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: little mysterious right now between Jet McNeil Akunya, whatever it's 540 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: gonna be. That's the one position I'm willing to have 541 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: be the question mark. But only if we were to 542 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: have Schwarber, Alonzo those guys, and. 543 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 3: Again Schworber just getting on how important home runs are 544 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 3: for the home run bat is very important. But if 545 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 3: if you have Nimo, Pete, Schwarburn and Solo on this roster, 546 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 3: well we will wind up having a lot of the 547 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 3: same problems as last year, where you're just not gonna 548 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 3: be able to play defense like other teams, but much 549 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 3: better offense. Significantly better offense. And we're gonna have a 550 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 3: lot of trade contact coming to you guys this week. 551 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 4: Both here. We're gonna have ten players. 552 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 3: The Mets are going to trade for this offseason just 553 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 3: to get a click baity there, and also if you 554 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 3: guys aren't following the wind up, we're going to have 555 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 3: every single player in baseball to might get trade this offseason. 556 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 4: And there's a bunch of first baseball on that list. 557 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: A ton of them. 558 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: I also like the old thing is what the best 559 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: offense is a good defense. I like saying the best 560 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: defense is gonna go to you score so many runs 561 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 1: they can't they can't catch up. 562 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 2: You win. That's it is. 563 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 3: This team, though, does need a bit of a refresh, 564 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 3: like an update of these player archy types. 565 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: You either you have to lean in either way. You 566 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: can't be in the middle like the Mets were last year. 567 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 4: No a lot. But the big reason this winds up 568 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 4: in the middle is. 569 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 3: Because a guy like Mark Vienttos who just has not 570 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 3: proven himself enough to really go into next year with 571 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,479 Speaker 3: any kind of startling spot to call his own. And 572 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,959 Speaker 3: if he's a bench guy, you need to fill that 573 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 3: bench with athletes. 574 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 4: Everywhere to kind of you need him. 575 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Jet Williams think Moore b though, like guy 576 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 3: getting guys from the outside, and the position player pool 577 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 3: of free agency offseason is light. I'll tell you guys 578 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 3: that that gives us some added importance to a guy 579 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 3: like Schwarber. But Cody bellancher' is a great player who 580 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 3: would be a good fit in this roster. I don't 581 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 3: know if he's a great fit for Sydney Field. I 582 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 3: talked about you talked about Josh Naylor and Ryan O'Hearn 583 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 3: past that first base you got, You're gonna get me, 584 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 3: Tako Murakami. You're gonna get Okmo Okamoto, Kazu Kazuomokomo. 585 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 4: Those guys are both posting. 586 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 3: I think Okamo's a great fit for the Mets as well. 587 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 3: Murakami is interesting one. I don't want Louis Riser, Paul Goldschman, No, 588 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 3: I don't want Reese Hoskins. I don't want Justin Turner. 589 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 3: We're gonna see if Brandon las. 590 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 2: Available for Tradon Carlos Santana. 591 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 4: No, not at all. 592 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 3: Brandon Lows probably the guy that gets a First Basement's 593 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 3: mitt at some point over the next few years. I 594 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 3: just don't know how well he can play it off 595 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 3: the bat like this there well, there are a good 596 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 3: amount of guys available, is sometimes a little bit more 597 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:54,479 Speaker 3: difficult to find them. 598 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 4: There will be an element of musical. 599 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 3: Chairs with First Basement of this offseason that the Mets 600 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 3: are going to be right in the center of. 601 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 2: Yes, without a doubt. 602 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about some bullpen now, because that 603 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: was also a major issue for this team. As chaotic 604 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: as it was and as good as Edwin Dias is, 605 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: we still need somebody. We need other guys even if 606 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: Edwin is there, and if he's not there, then we 607 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: definitely need a real closer. 608 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 3: So guy's under contract right now, not including Edwind Diaz 609 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 3: WT me to run them through for you. 610 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 4: Go for it. 611 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 2: Oscar Brasobahn, Fuck yeah, bring him back. 612 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 4: Austin Warren. 613 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 2: I love Austin Warren Es tear. 614 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 3: Ad Bird alsala mm hmm, Dicky Love Lady yikes. Justin 615 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 3: Hagenman okay brand Brandon Waddell. 616 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: Disgusting throw up. Dylan Ross I don't even know he 617 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: throws a hundred. Ryan Lambert throws a hundred. Alex Correo 618 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: throws a hundred. Joe Jack don't know anything about Joe Jack. 619 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 3: No, this is get the sense of who's under contract 620 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 3: right now in this Mets seam and what this bullpen 621 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 3: is like Again. J Mentor will be healthy, he will 622 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 3: be back a pitcher on this team, but he opt out. Technically, yeah, 623 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 3: technically has an eleven million dollar player option and coming 624 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 3: off a major injury that's pretty serious, and Brooks rarely 625 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 3: a five million dollar club options. So I am assuming 626 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 3: guy was those shock effects. But I do think that 627 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 3: those will be three veterans that we can pencil into 628 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 3: this bullpen now with her, with or without Edwind Diaz 629 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 3: need some fucking help back there. 630 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, need some help. 631 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: And the bullpen market, as always is chaotic. It's crazy pratty. 632 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: As is by far the best reliever available, which is 633 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 1: also maybe part of the reason why he will opt out. 634 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, but also there will be Ryce Iglesias, Roberts Horrez 635 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 3: probably will opt out as well. There's nother name I'm 636 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,479 Speaker 3: not going to say, Devin Williams, ken Lee Jansen, those 637 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 3: guys are probably not comes. The other name that means 638 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 3: his name Rymes of Mayan Melsley, Oh god, Yeah. But 639 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,239 Speaker 3: Kirby it's coming off all of his injuries this year, 640 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 3: Meill Pagan coming off a great season being a bit older. 641 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 3: Sean Newcomb's a guy that came out awesome this year, 642 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 3: reviving his career as a left handed reliever. Luke Weaver 643 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 3: who was a cash that suddenly became Kyle Finnegan Hunter Harvey. 644 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 3: I like to get very to a star this year, 645 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 3: or ruin you with Stephen matt who found himself. 646 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,239 Speaker 2: As a doesn't say that Steve Steve Collin will never 647 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 2: sign Steve. 648 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 4: Mattz's true Brad Keller. 649 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 3: Like there's Sir Anthony Dominguez, who we know he's you know, 650 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 3: Jim Palmer doesn't like him, but he's still got great stuff. 651 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 3: Like it's Drew Pomeran somehow his third different career revival. 652 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 3: Like it's it's sure fucking chaos. But at the same time, 653 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 3: you need to find the diamonds in the rough of 654 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 3: the air, and if the trademarket is more suitable, the 655 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 3: trademark is more suitable. But a lot of this I 656 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 3: think does come down to Lambert and Dylan Ross being 657 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 3: guys that will have to be trusted in this bullpen 658 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 3: next year. 659 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: They at least got to get a shot. I mean, 660 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 2: they throw one hundred. What else do we need? 661 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 4: But Ryan Standick, there's one hundred. 662 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 2: Well he. 663 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 4: I mean Miguel Castro and a bunch of these horrible unions. 664 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 3: Jonathan Wise again in terms of guys who are gonna 665 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 3: di reclamation projects. I'll take a shot on him, like 666 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 3: there's just there are there's a lot of cast out 667 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 3: of there. Jordan Demano another you're remove from his Tommy 668 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 3: John surgery. Like there's going to be some throw up 669 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 3: moments this offseason from relievers. You guys are going to 670 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 3: see the Mets sign. But at the same time, we 671 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 3: have to throw so much shit at the wall because 672 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 3: of how empty this bullpen is right now unless we 673 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 3: get a lot more minor league a stepping up. 674 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: And also at the same time, we've we've thrown this 675 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: out to Jeff Wickleil for Carlos Steves who says, no, 676 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: we have. 677 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 4: Thrown out yet. Technically we said that it's not been 678 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 4: thrown out in this podcast officially. 679 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 2: Thrown it out officially for Carlos Steves. I think is 680 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 2: on the board. 681 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 4: That's mark jumping into the future. 682 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 3: There are it's always gonna be relieves available via trade, absolutely, 683 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,239 Speaker 3: always forever and always gonna started that you can turn 684 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 3: into relievers, Like it's you want to go take Robert 685 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 3: Stevenson and his massive contract from the Angels. 686 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 4: I'm sure they'd probably love to do that. 687 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 3: Like there's always going to be they think they're winning, 688 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 3: especially true, maybe there's always avenues to do this. 689 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 4: I'm sure Jojo Romero's he's gonna be available this year. 690 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 3: Leftie from the Cardinals who I love AJ Pupkins last 691 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 3: year Team control and the Diamondbacks have no one but 692 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 3: just a trade a guy in his last year Team controls, 693 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 3: a huge risk with a huge reward, like there's there 694 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 3: will be interesting relievers available. But this is gonna be 695 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 3: a big year to see what this mess pitcher development 696 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 3: has and how many of these guys we can kind 697 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 3: of start building from our own ashes. 698 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent, because we've seen the starting pictures. 699 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: Now we gotta see some of these bullpen guys in 700 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: the minor leagues how they progressed. 701 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 4: Where's our avenue, your rebay? We need our avenue, your rebay. 702 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 2: Ryan Lambert, Dylan Ross, those could be those guys. 703 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 4: I'm saying this. 704 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 3: Can't even Dylan Ross can't throw a strike. When Ryan 705 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 3: Lambert gets called up, me and you and him six eggs, 706 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 3: that was the deal. 707 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 2: I forgot about that. I forgot about drinking eggs. 708 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 4: Clear out the clear at the colon before that happens. 709 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: Not gonna eat anything for a week before I drink 710 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: six eggs. All right, last thing of the dream off 711 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: season for the New York Mets. I do want some 712 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: actual starting pitching depth, though I know, yeah, I know, 713 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: Mets fans and Mets people on Twitter are saying the 714 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: curse words of we have too much pitching, which you 715 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: can never have too much pitching, and shame on anyone. 716 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 1: If you hear anybody say the Mets have too much pitching, 717 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: turn off the content. This is the one time I 718 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: will say, idiots, dummies, stupid. You can never have too 719 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 1: much starting pitching. Look at the Dodgers, never too much. 720 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: I'd love to have someone else in between in the 721 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: stream offseason schoobl and MacLean. I'd love to have it too. 722 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: I'd love to have a Freddy Peralta. I mean, why 723 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: not if we're making trades, He's very available. 724 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 4: To dream offseason. I think I'd rather even go out 725 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 4: and do the one. 726 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 3: Year for Freddie Pralta than possibly giving up the draft 727 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 3: pick to get a Dylan Ceas. And I don't I 728 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 3: also dream offseason. I don't really want to give him 729 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 3: braval As a six or seven year contract. I don't 730 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 3: think that's very proven in any way, shape or form. 731 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 2: Dason. I'll give him one for thirty. 732 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, but then yeah, I still giving up that draft 733 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 3: pick though, And I do wonder now maybe the Mets 734 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 3: are more confident in their minor league system. They're finally 735 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 3: willing to do qualifying offers for guys, sign guys, do 736 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 3: that draft pick. But you have to be confident enough 737 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 3: in the picture to give them enough years where it 738 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 3: still makes sense to give up that draft pick. Maybe 739 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 3: Michael King is that guy we know he's now opted out. 740 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 4: He will be a free agent. 741 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 3: Like that makes a lot of sense. Zach Allen's another 742 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 3: guy who will be very interesting. So I think he 743 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,479 Speaker 3: had a much better second half than people realized. 744 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 2: Could be there too. 745 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 3: Like you again, like you want to again, We'll do 746 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 3: realistic offseason maybe next week and give you guys a 747 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 3: nitty gritty, well what we're gonna talk about Zack Eflin, 748 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 3: But this is this is this is not the time 749 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 3: for that. Like Rangers, Swarz is gonna be the hot 750 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 3: name because of how good he's been the last few years. 751 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 4: But you give a guy through his ninety miles an 752 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 4: hour seven year contract. 753 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 3: I probably don't do that. Even in my dream offseason, 754 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 3: you really don't. Like that's why we led this with 755 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 3: Terrek Scouble. The dream off season begins. 756 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 5: It just ends with him. 757 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 2: Yes, that is where the dream starts. 758 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: If your dream offseason does not have Terrek Scouble being 759 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: the number one move again, turn it off. What the 760 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: fuck are we talking about? 761 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 4: This is he He's got to be on this team. 762 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 3: I'm getting a little too confident he is on this 763 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 3: team because in terms of what teams have stuff to 764 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 3: give and what team has a reason to jump out 765 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 3: and do this, it just it just begins and ends 766 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 3: with the Mets, something you kind of have to make happen. 767 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: How confident were you with Soda, because I think I 768 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: was the one who was like, he's a Met, He's a. 769 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 4: Mess, there's no medium confident with so though you it was. 770 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: Like you were of the thing of like, there's too 771 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: much Mets smoke with Soda, right, it just keeps happening 772 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: and happening. 773 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 3: I did say I think we're always going to have 774 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 3: the biggest offer, which I think always gave us an advantage. 775 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 3: But I did think at the end of the day 776 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 3: was it would be the Yankees but here we have 777 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 3: the most money, we have the best prospects like this 778 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 3: unless the Dodgers make that machine available, and even with them, 779 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 3: we could probably still maybe trump them with Joonah. 780 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 4: Tong Like, I don't know who has a better package 781 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 4: off of the Mets right now. 782 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 2: It's gonna be tough. 783 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough, but boy, oh boy, this offseason 784 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: is gonna be interesting as hell for the New York Mets. 785 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: That's our dream offseason. Go get the best picture in baseball, 786 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: Sign the best first baseman, power hitter in baseball, get 787 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: the best reliever, get the best closer back. You know, 788 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: very realistic, right, No, that's why it's a dream offseason. 789 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: But we'd love to know what you guys are thinking 790 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: down the comment section. Let us know dream off season. 791 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: Who are some guys you want the Mets to bring in. 792 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: Remember to subscribe to Met Stuff as well as follow 793 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Download. Give us a 794 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: review rating all that good stuff. 795 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,239 Speaker 2: You can follow James on Twitter at James Shianda. I'm 796 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 2: Draftnick Mark. 797 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 4: With the CEE. 798 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 2: Thank you guys for watching. We'll catch you all in 799 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 2: the next episode. 800 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 4: Bes out, guys, Go Mets. 801 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 3: Why and then the man