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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. Garret and I

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Speaker 1: are gonna break down the film from the Ravens big

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Speaker 1: fifty six to nineteen win over the Dolphins. I have

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Speaker 1: to keep going back and looking up the score because

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Speaker 1: it's such a ridiculous score.

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Speaker 2: And it was a score.

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Speaker 3: Guy.

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say, did you know is score gomy

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Speaker 4: I did that?

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Speaker 1: It's like hard for me to remember what it was.

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Speaker 1: Fifty six to nineteen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't really roll off the tongue, but I

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Speaker 4: like it.

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Speaker 3: I'm a vague fan of it. If the Raves were

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Speaker 3: on the top end of that score score Gomi. By

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Speaker 3: the way, if you don't know, that's if a score

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Speaker 3: has never happened in the NFL before. So that fifty

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Speaker 3: six to nineteen win was the first time in NFL

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Speaker 3: history that that has been the final score of a game.

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Speaker 1: And this is the second score Gommi the Ravens have

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Speaker 1: had yes this year, So pretty crazy good vibes.

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Speaker 3: If you're getting multiple score Gommies in one season, that

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Speaker 3: you know it's a good year exactly.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna break down the tape and then we're

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Speaker 1: also gonna dive into who the Ravens might play and

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Speaker 1: who they might sit and rest for the game against

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Speaker 1: the Steelers Saturday at M ANDT Banks Stadium, in a

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Speaker 1: game that obviously has taken on different implications, different stakes

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Speaker 1: for the Ravens now that they've clinched the AFC North

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Speaker 1: and the number one seed. So, Garrett, let's start out

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Speaker 1: here with what went right against the Dolphins. A lot

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Speaker 1: went right, but you got a first point to Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a starting point, right, Yeah, exactly five

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Speaker 3: touchdowns locked up the MVP race. I think that's a

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Speaker 3: good starting point to discuss what went right.

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Speaker 1: And here's the thing is those who were still even

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Speaker 1: after the forty nine Ers game when a bunch of

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Speaker 1: us felt like he locked up the MVP, there are

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Speaker 1: still people going back and saying, well, the passing stats

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Speaker 1: just aren't there, Yeah, and the rushing stats aren't there

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Speaker 1: compared to his twenty nineteen MVP season. What are we

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Speaker 1: missing here? And Lamar Jackson said, well, this is what

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Speaker 1: you weren't saying. Yeah, right here it is. I'll put

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Speaker 1: it on a silver platter for you all in one game,

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Speaker 1: so you don't have to go back and watch all

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Speaker 1: the film and actually watch the games that the Ravens

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Speaker 1: played this year to appreciate the greatness of Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 2: I'll put it on one plate for yeah, and he

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Speaker 2: did that in this game.

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Speaker 4: I know he really did. I do think. I know.

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Speaker 3: I said after the game end that podcast that I

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Speaker 3: thought that it might be a unanus MVP.

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Speaker 4: As I thought about it more, I think it.

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Speaker 2: I think it will be.

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Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be a second unanimous.

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Speaker 2: Does Richard Sherman have a vote? Because if he does this, if.

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Speaker 3: Richard Shermon has a vote, then it will not be unanimous.

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Speaker 3: But I think that I don't think it will be.

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Speaker 3: I think that Lamar obviously showed just incredible command of

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Speaker 3: the passing game, and I love the way that he's

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Speaker 3: spreading it around. I just think that like that is

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Speaker 3: one of the things I think he's always done well,

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Speaker 3: and I think it's gone to another level this year.

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Speaker 3: Part of that is that he has more weapons than ever,

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Speaker 3: but his ability to spread the ball around, I think

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Speaker 3: of what makes the Ravens so hard to defend, because

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Speaker 3: it's not just stop Mark Andrews and then and then

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Speaker 3: they're gonna have a tough time moving the ball. It

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Speaker 3: could be a different guy every single week, and we

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Speaker 3: saw that on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to I want to point to Lamar's

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Speaker 1: decision making as being a big part of this game.

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Speaker 1: And you saw him in complete control one a ridiculous

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Speaker 1: throw on the Odell Beckham junior play. And you see

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Speaker 1: him before that snap, you see him communicating out to

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Speaker 2: And I think Lamar's.

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Speaker 1: Film study has been excellent this year, and you see

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Speaker 1: that playing out and on that throw, you also see

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Speaker 1: another component of his game that has really taken a

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Speaker 1: step forward, and that is his pocket mobility. We're not

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Speaker 1: talking about mobility outside the pocket, which he's had a

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Speaker 1: Let's keep in mind that was the most improbable completion

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Speaker 2: Of completing that ball, and he threw it on one leg.

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Speaker 1: Down the sideline, dropped it in a bucket to Odell

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Speaker 1: Beckham Junior. Fantastic catch, yeah, but it was also a

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Speaker 1: fantastic throw at both.

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Speaker 4: Ends of that were great. Yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: I always felt like like mobility is a word that

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Speaker 3: someone who always had great in the pocket mobility that

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Speaker 3: He had this great feel in the pocket, and that

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Speaker 3: like even you think about Ben Roethlisberger shrugging off tacklers and.

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Speaker 2: Like that's that was different.

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Speaker 4: That's different.

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Speaker 3: That's different, like this ability to step up at the

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Speaker 3: or throw even if it was on one leg. Brady

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Speaker 3: to another level this year. It's not just like all right,

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Speaker 3: move look down the field, throw a pass that's like

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Speaker 3: you know, for grabs. No, this is like much more

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Speaker 3: procedural and methodical than he has surgical, surgical, any of

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Speaker 3: those were. Yeah, he's doing that a better better than

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with that.

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Speaker 1: Another touch to them that I want to point to

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Speaker 3: Well, they called, they called a earlier.

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Speaker 1: Exactly and then just Justice goes up the sideline and

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Speaker 1: It was for shot Bateman legal hit it over the top.

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Speaker 1: But what's really interesting about that is Lamar's diagnosis of

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Speaker 2: Then he Lamar took the shot over the top.

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Speaker 1: The second time around, the Dolphins were single high safety

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Speaker 2: Pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And what's your take?

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Speaker 3: Could you think that's just more film study, more of

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Speaker 4: More that over the course of your career.

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Speaker 3: Is what I'm trying to figure out is what has

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's sheer amount of film study

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Speaker 1: one way that Lamar has certainly elevated his game as

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Speaker 1: he ushered in. The intention was to empower Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 3: And Lamar clearly, like said, he's talked about that over

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Speaker 4: I've always felt like Lamars.

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Speaker 3: I've always felt like he has seen the field well,

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Speaker 3: like on the you know, the Isaiah likely fourth and seven.

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Speaker 3: You know, that was obviously a key turning point in

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Speaker 3: probably selling himself short a little bit because you make

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Speaker 3: But I just think that the that seeing the field

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Speaker 3: him a giant leap this year, and.

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Speaker 2: That was another special Lamar Jackson throw.

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Speaker 1: A he bought himself a little bit of extra time

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Speaker 1: to because those were longer developing routes to let Isaiah

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Speaker 1: likely get open in air quotes, he wasn't very open.

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Speaker 1: Lamar basically had to make the perfect throw and he

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Speaker 2: And put it in the exact, perfect perfect spot.

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Speaker 1: If that throw is a little bit behind Isaiah, likely

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Speaker 1: it's probably a pick six on fourth down. Those stakes

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Speaker 3: Especially when you're going up against Miami that's put up

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Speaker 4: In the playoffs. Well, guess what.

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Speaker 3: Well done, very well done. I think also we should

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Speaker 2: It's it's like, we're not done. Yeah, like, well, first

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's huge.

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Speaker 3: This year, the return game has really been one that's

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Speaker 2: Completely agree.

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Speaker 1: Just a couple more plays that I want to point

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Speaker 1: out here in their film breakdown Justice Hill on the

442
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Speaker 1: third and sixteen conversion to on the Ravens first drive

443
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Speaker 1: of the game was a massive play and next Gen

444
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Speaker 1: stats sums it up that play, which you don't usually

445
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Speaker 1: see a play in the first quarter on the first

446
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Speaker 1: drive impacting a game in this way, him converting on

447
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Speaker 1: third and sixteen increased the Ravens chances of winning by

448
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Speaker 1: six point six percent.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy on the first drive for the Ravens of

450
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Speaker 2: the game. Wow, I mean, what a play.

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Speaker 4: That's some momentum percentage points right there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and and uh the crazy part of watching that

453
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Speaker 1: back and Ray Rice was in the building.

454
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Speaker 2: He was honored as the Ravens legend of the game.

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Speaker 1: You put that side by side, go to my Twitter,

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Speaker 1: my Twitter profile at Ryan Mink to check it out,

457
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Speaker 1: or read Ravens I view to check it out. You

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Speaker 1: put hey, Diddle, diddle fourth and twenty nine next to

459
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Speaker 1: that that third and sixteen conversion by Justice Hilla, and

460
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Speaker 1: there are mirror images of each other.

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Speaker 4: Similar.

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Speaker 2: Pretty crazy, Yeah, except Eric.

463
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Speaker 4: Weddle wasn't on the receiving end of a Bolden block.

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Speaker 2: That was the one difference. No, Obi j would have

465
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Speaker 2: been the guy and he.

466
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Speaker 1: Could have taken that shot, but he wisely did not

467
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Speaker 1: because a that block.

468
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Speaker 2: Was probably illegal by anklebone at the time.

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Speaker 1: Definitely he might have been injected, yeah in today's game,

470
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Speaker 1: So totally obij wisely did not take that shot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 3: Another guy who I think is worth pointing out is

473
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Speaker 3: somebody who we haven't talked about much during the season,

474
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Speaker 3: but we spent a lot of time talking about him

475
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Speaker 3: in training camp in the offseason is Ben Cleveland. He

476
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Speaker 3: stepped in at right guard with Kevin Zeitler out, and

477
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Speaker 3: he played a good game. And I thought that, like,

478
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Speaker 3: this is a guy who's, you know, been criticized a

479
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Speaker 3: little bit and you know, came in with as a

480
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Speaker 3: third round pick with some kind of big expectations. You

481
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Speaker 3: look at him, he's a mountain of a man and

482
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Speaker 3: you think that this guy's going to be a you know,

483
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Speaker 3: a stud blocker. And he hasn't cracked the starting line

484
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Speaker 3: up yet, but he stepped into the starting lineup on

485
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Speaker 3: Sunday and played at a very high level.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think that he played particularly well as a pass blocker.

488
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Speaker 1: He also, when you when you dive into the tape,

489
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Speaker 1: didn't have a whole lot of one on one opportunities.

490
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Speaker 1: The Ravens h used Tyler Linderbaum to kind of help

491
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Speaker 1: him a lot. But I thought a very strong performance

492
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Speaker 1: for Ben Cleveland. You know, really he's been good as

493
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Speaker 1: an extra blocker, yeah, the whole year.

494
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Speaker 2: This is a big difference.

495
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Speaker 1: You're stepping into Kevin Zeitler spot as a full time

496
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Speaker 1: he played one hundred percent snaps very different. I thought

497
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Speaker 1: the Ravens did a good job of giving him some

498
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Speaker 1: help because that's a tough Dolphins defensive line nothing to

499
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Speaker 1: sneeze at there, very good and so they did a

500
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Speaker 1: good job I think giving him some help yep.

501
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Speaker 3: And then I also think you got on a day

502
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Speaker 3: where Tyreek Hill doesn't crack one hundred yards, which has

503
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Speaker 3: not happened very much for him, and on.

504
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Speaker 1: His day when a starting cornerback Brandon Stevens is out,

505
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Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton arguably your best I don't know if it's

506
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Speaker 1: an argument.

507
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Speaker 2: I don't even know if it's an argument.

508
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Speaker 1: Your best player in the secondary for sure is out

509
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Speaker 1: and Marlon Humphrey goes out early in the in the

510
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Speaker 1: first half. On a day like that, for Arthur Mulett

511
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Speaker 1: Ronald Darby to step up the way they did, definitely

512
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Speaker 1: deserve shout outs. Arthur Mlett I thought showed in particular

513
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Speaker 1: really good around the line of scrimmage, really good in

514
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Speaker 1: against the run, but also broke up a third down

515
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Speaker 1: pass intended for Tyreek.

516
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Speaker 2: I thought, was they were really good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was that was huge.

518
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Speaker 3: I just think that, like if you were were to

519
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Speaker 3: say going into the game, you know a week or

520
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Speaker 3: two ago, you're not gonna have Hamilton Marlin for the

521
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Speaker 3: most part, Brandon Stevens, how you think you're gonna fare

522
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Speaker 3: against this Miami offense. Like, I don't think anybody would

523
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Speaker 3: have been taking those odds. I just think you would

524
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Speaker 3: have been like, this is going to be a long

525
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Speaker 3: day for the secondary. Yeah, and I give him a

526
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Speaker 3: lead and Ronald Darby and the rest of the guys.

527
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Speaker 4: Gino obviously came up with the pick.

528
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Speaker 3: Also, by the way, on the Geno pick, I didn't

529
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Speaker 3: realize this in real time, but Roquan looked like he

530
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Speaker 3: got a fingers.

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Speaker 4: He did that.

532
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Speaker 1: He did, Yeah, you get you When you slow that down,

533
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Speaker 1: the ball's trajectory changed a little bit. It almost looked

534
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Speaker 1: like he hit the very bottom of it, Yeah, and

535
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Speaker 1: kind of floated it up a little bit more.

536
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Speaker 2: He definitely got a finger on that.

537
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Speaker 3: Yeah. He just kind of al ooped it to Gina,

538
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Speaker 3: who brought it down exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I thought Roquan was really good.

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Speaker 1: He had He had the lowest Pro Football Focused grade

542
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Speaker 1: of anyone on on the defense. This is one of

543
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Speaker 1: those examples where you you have that puzzled look on

544
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Speaker 1: your face looking at the PFF grades, You're like, what

545
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: are you guys seeing here?

546
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that one handed catch would be a pretty high grade.

547
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Speaker 3: And then you force another interception or play a big

548
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Speaker 3: part in another interception.

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Speaker 1: Well, and Tua said he specifically had to get that.

550
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Speaker 1: He was trying to get that throw over Roque. Yeah,

551
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Speaker 1: that's what made it a high throw to begin with,

552
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Speaker 1: was Roque's drop. So yeah, you have a big part

553
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Speaker 1: in two interceptions.

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Speaker 2: You get it. You deserve it.

555
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Speaker 4: A B right, pretty good f yeah, pretty good grade,

556
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Speaker 4: pretty good grade.

557
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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: Before we wrap up our film breakdown, we got to

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Speaker 1: get our now over the week and this is a first,

560
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Speaker 1: Garrett is a first. We're going double now. Lamar Jackson

561
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Speaker 1: doubling it down. How do you not give it to him?

562
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Speaker 1: After a perfect passer rating with five touchdowns? Lamar Jackson,

563
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Speaker 1: you are our double now for the first time in history.

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Speaker 3: Well dress, Bud, well done back to back for Lamar,

565
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Speaker 3: so well done for him. We'll take a quick break

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Speaker 3: And E and this game obviously it's gonna be an

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Speaker 3: interesting one for the Ravens and determining how they approach

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Speaker 3: it against the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: John Harwell said on Monday that he hadn't made any

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Speaker 1: the final decisions yet. That was something that he was

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Speaker 1: working on here early in the week. But by Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: when the Ravens start practicing, they will know and there

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Speaker 1: won't be any secrets. So we're gonna get the answers here.

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Speaker 1: But before we get the answers, of course, we have

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Speaker 1: to spend about what it could be.

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Speaker 3: And so just to set the in case you haven't

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Speaker 3: fully digested, the Ravens can't improve their stock anymore.

602
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Speaker 4: The number one overall seat is locked up.

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Speaker 3: They have home field advantage about the payoffs and a

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Speaker 3: first round by so win or lose, they're going to

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Speaker 3: have those things. So from a standing standpoint, this game

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Speaker 3: doesn't mean anything to the Ravens. The Steelers, however, they

607
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Speaker 3: need to win this game for a chance. They need

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Speaker 3: some other things as well, but they need to win

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Speaker 3: this game for a chance to get into the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: So they're going to be fighting like crazy obviously to

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Speaker 3: win this game. They've got a lot on the line.

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Speaker 3: The Ravens do not.

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Speaker 2: That's correct.

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Speaker 1: So I do expect that the Ravens are certainly going

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Speaker 1: to rest some players.

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Speaker 2: And let's go through it here.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Ravens were in this position in twenty

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Speaker 1: nineteen and they rested in the season finale in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: So there is precedent here.

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Speaker 3: Which, to be honest, I don't know if that precedent

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Speaker 3: indicates a likeliness to do the same or a likeliness

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Speaker 3: to do different. I mean, I just I think that's

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Speaker 3: part of the argument, and that's part of.

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Speaker 2: The few versus rust argument.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's part of the concern even. I mean, like

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Speaker 3: Patrick Ricard even said after the game, like and he

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Speaker 3: hopes that they play, you know, because.

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Speaker 2: Because he will be playing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and so that is I don't know. I

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Speaker 4: honestly can see both sides of it. I really can.

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Speaker 3: But there's, as we're going to talk about here, there's

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Speaker 3: a real benefit for certain players, in particular not playing.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens are already going to have two weeks before

634
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Speaker 1: their playoff game, even if you even if you rest

635
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Speaker 1: these guys this week against the Steelers. So does rust

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Speaker 1: come into play then, you know, like a traditional bye week?

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Speaker 4: Are you rusty after a bye Well, right, I think

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Speaker 4: maybe you.

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Speaker 2: Could say so.

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Speaker 1: But so you're saying, like the third week of rest

641
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Speaker 1: ads rust.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that would be the argument. And that's what and

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Speaker 3: that's what players have said. I mean, that's what Lamar

644
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Speaker 3: Jackson has said in the past. I'll take his word

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Speaker 3: for it that he feels like you get rusty with

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Speaker 3: that extra week.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

648
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Speaker 1: I don't know, but here's what I'm going to say.

649
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Speaker 1: I don't think Lamar Jackson is playing in this game. Okay,

650
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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's the MVP, he's the most valuable player, and

651
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Speaker 1: in a game with certainly lower stakes, I don't know

652
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Speaker 1: that you put the family jewels on the line. That's

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Speaker 1: how valuable Lamar Jackson is. Yeah, and so I expect

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Speaker 1: that Tyler Huntley will get the start in this game.

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Speaker 1: But the calculation here is not an easy one because

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Speaker 1: it's not like the preseason where you have these ninety

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Speaker 1: man rosters and you can trot out all backups. Some

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Speaker 1: starters have to play in this game. The question is

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Speaker 1: who do you sit right and who is the backup

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Speaker 1: to the do A guy who's usually a starter maybe

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Speaker 1: becomes a backup in case the other guy gets hurt, right,

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Speaker 1: that's the question to me, So I think that Lamar

663
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Speaker 1: as I said, he's on the bench. To me, I

664
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Speaker 1: think Ronnie Stanley, it would be ideal to rest him

665
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Speaker 1: considering all the nagging injuries that he's had.

666
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's like I think you honestly might

667
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Speaker 3: start the conversation with who's dealing with injuries?

668
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Speaker 4: Like, to me, that's like where the key players dealing with?

669
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Speaker 1: So the key players deal Kyle Hamilton, Marlon Humphrey, Kevin Zeitler,

670
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Speaker 1: the three guys that were inactive right, ron inactive, Marlon

671
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Speaker 1: Huphrey wasn't inactive, and who am I missing?

672
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Speaker 2: And Brandon Stevens exactly.

673
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Speaker 1: So Stevens, Hamilton, and Zeitler were inactive because of injuries

674
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Speaker 1: last week. I expect that they'll probably continue to rest

675
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Speaker 1: to get fully healthy.

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Speaker 2: And then Marlon Humphrey went down during the game. I

677
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Speaker 2: expect that's four right there.

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Speaker 4: Right, And then you're mentioning as you're talking about Ronnie Stanley,

679
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Speaker 4: he's been dealing with nagging.

680
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Speaker 3: And then you have the guys like basically Ronnie Morgan,

681
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Speaker 3: Moses and Marcus Williams who've been dealing with nagging injuries

682
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Speaker 3: all season long.

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Speaker 1: Right to me, Daniel fol Lele makes sense as you

684
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Speaker 1: get every snap at right tackle, huh a, he's been

685
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Speaker 1: playing about fifty percent of them anyway, and b give

686
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Speaker 1: him a whole game, you know, get see what he

687
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Speaker 1: looks like with a whole game. I'm curious to see

688
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Speaker 1: that he's got t J.

689
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Speaker 2: Watt. That's a good.

690
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Speaker 1: Challenge for him, right Like, this is more evaluation for

691
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Speaker 1: next year for Falla Lele, more experience for him for

692
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Speaker 1: next year potentially, And so I'm starting him over Morgan Moses.

693
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Speaker 1: Maybe I can't make Morgan Moses inactive because you just.

694
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Speaker 2: It's a numbers game.

695
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Speaker 4: You only you have six inactives.

696
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Speaker 1: Well, Morgan Moses is the backup to Daniel folllo Lele

697
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Speaker 1: if I if I'm doing it, I would love to

698
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Speaker 1: not play Tayler Linderbaum in this game. When I'm talking

699
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Speaker 1: about valuable guys, he's right off there. Yeah, he got

700
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Speaker 1: center snapping the ball every every snap to Lamar Jackson.

701
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Speaker 4: Have Sam Mustifer who you could step in and play

702
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Speaker 4: there exactly.

703
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Speaker 1: I'm starting Sam Mustifer and I'm starting Pat McCarey for

704
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Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley. Those are the big changes I'm making offensively.

705
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Speaker 3: What about receiver, I mean, I think it'd be I'd

706
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Speaker 3: be a little surprised if Odell Beckham Junior, if if

707
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Speaker 3: if we're gone with your approach, here like here's here's

708
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Speaker 3: the thing, Like if you're if you're going, you're.

709
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Speaker 4: Basically saying rest everybody. I mean, that's kind of what

710
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Speaker 4: you arrest as many people as say you're basically saying

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Speaker 4: rest everybody.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think Odell probably Odell's a still get

713
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Speaker 1: some snaps, but it's limited.

714
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Speaker 4: I mean, Odell's a guy that's giving more snaps.

715
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Speaker 1: Tylan Wallace can get more snaps out there, wide receiver,

716
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Speaker 1: Nelson Agalore. You know, I don't know that Odell is inactive.

717
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Speaker 1: I think he's probably active for the game because he

718
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Speaker 1: can only have so many inactive guys, but he's in

719
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Speaker 1: a limited role.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if a guy that's like dealt with

721
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Speaker 3: you know, bumps and bruises over the course of the year,

722
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Speaker 3: I would probably if you're going with your approach, be

723
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Speaker 3: really careful about it.

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Speaker 1: But I think then like I think more Bateman and

725
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Speaker 1: Tyler Wallace probably take the majority of your snaps a

726
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Speaker 1: wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: Right and then you're then you're basically saying on defense,

728
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Speaker 3: it's like okay, Queen Roquan, like, they're as valuable as

729
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Speaker 3: it gets on defense, so you're probably sitting them down.

730
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think defensively, well, you have the

731
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Speaker 1: inactives Marlon Brandon and Kyle Hamilton.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that.

733
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Speaker 1: I think again, Roquan and PQ probably aren't inactive, but

734
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Speaker 1: they have a secondary role. And maybe maybe these guys

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Speaker 1: are starters just whatever. They're on the field for the

736
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Speaker 1: first series or whatever, but they play a very limited role.

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Speaker 4: Well that's that's the other thing that I think.

738
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Speaker 1: You know, you have Malik Harrison, Josh Ross has been

739
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Speaker 1: active on game days.

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Speaker 4: You could call a bunch of guys up from the.

741
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Speaker 2: Practice squad, Sean Phillips. You could a bunch of.

742
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Speaker 4: Guys up from the practice squad, which I think is

743
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Speaker 4: likely they're.

744
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Speaker 2: Gonna elevate as two guys.

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Speaker 1: Obviously you're gonna call elevate your two standard yeah dudes, Yeah, right, exactly.

746
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Speaker 2: But Adams will be one of those probably.

747
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Speaker 4: I think that like.

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Speaker 3: Another comparison that's different than nineteen is you could go

749
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 3: back to twenty twelve. The Ravens in that game, and

750
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Speaker 3: that year they went into this season finale against Cincinnati.

751
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 3: That season they couldn't improve their seating at all, so

752
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,479
Speaker 3: similar in that the game didn't matter from a playoff

753
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 3: seating standpoint, different and that they didn't have the number

754
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Speaker 3: one seed clinching to buy. What they did in that

755
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Speaker 3: game is they started Flacco and the starters for a

756
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 3: couple of series. They started, then played a couple of series.

757
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 3: You could go that route with this group overall. You

758
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: could to check the rust box. Yes, basically, go through

759
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Speaker 3: your game day routine. You're going to go out there

760
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Speaker 3: and get a couple of series. Now, the flip side

761
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Speaker 3: of that, is.

762
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Speaker 4: It worth it?

763
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Speaker 2: Is it worth any different from a third preseason game.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly where you.

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Speaker 1: Say, well, we want to get them a little bit

766
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Speaker 1: of action, right, And John Harball has been very cautious

767
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Speaker 1: with that, especially after the JK.

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Speaker 2: Dobbins injury. I said, it's not worth.

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Speaker 3: It, right, It's that's all part of the balance and

770
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Speaker 3: the calculation here. And I don't I honestly, I think

771
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Speaker 3: that there are benefits both ways. I don't like I

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Speaker 3: tend to agree with you that I shade more toards

773
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Speaker 3: the conservative approach of rest guys, it's just not worth

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Speaker 3: it because the potential for injury is far greater than

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Speaker 3: the potential for rust.

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Speaker 4: You know, and the impact of that.

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Speaker 3: So I agree, But I also think that I don't

778
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Speaker 3: totally dismiss the rust argument. These guys are used to

779
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Speaker 3: playing on a weekly basis al sudden, if you have

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Speaker 3: a two week gap in between games, I think that,

781
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Speaker 3: like you know that, that it's not something to totally discount.

782
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Speaker 2: Sure, I think that it's a consideration. Yeah, I agree

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Speaker 2: with you.

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Speaker 1: Other players on the defense that I would like to

785
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Speaker 1: see in limited roles at least Marcus Williams, as we

786
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Speaker 1: mentioned with his with his arm situation. I think that

787
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowney, being a veteran the way he is, he

788
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: and Van Nuyt try to just get them as fresh

789
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: as possible. Justin Mattabee Gay from pure important standpoint, Michael

790
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: Pierce had to suffered a stinger in this past game.

791
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: Is he going to even be healthy enough to play?

792
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Speaker 1: We'll see, But if he's out there, I'd rather give

793
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: Travis Junes. You know, Travis's been playing well, young player,

794
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: Get him some more snaps. What I mean, he's seen

795
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Speaker 1: playing a Snaps. You know who Travis Jones is, but

796
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: justin Matti Beek, I don't want playing a whole ton

797
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: of Snaps or Michael Pierce. And so to me, it's

798
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Speaker 1: some of these starters are gonna have to play because

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Speaker 1: you also don't want to put one hundred percent of

800
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: SNAPS on your backups, right Like, you don't want to

801
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: gas or risk injury by these guys over extending themselves

802
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: as key role players, key backups, like a Travis Jones, Right,

803
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Speaker 1: I don't want Travis. You can't play Travis Jones a

804
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: hundred percent of Snaps, right like, you risk him and

805
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: getting injured, and that would be significant.

806
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 4: I know. It's so like.

807
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Speaker 1: Some of the starters, you're gonna have to play some

808
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: of those guys. To me, it's just you almost flip it, right,

809
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: Like whereas if whatever, the starter would take sixty percent

810
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: of Snaps or sixty six percent, the other guy would

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Speaker 1: take thirty three percent, well then you flip it right.

812
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Speaker 2: Well thirty four percent. Sorry, right, I'm doing your math

813
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 2: over here.

814
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it is all a again.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a very very interesting dynamic and dilemma

816
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 3: kind of that that's part of the consideration here, not dilemma.

817
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 3: That's the wrong word. It's not a dilemma when you

818
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: have the number one. Seven and a half were locked

819
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 3: up in advance. And I do think that, like there

820
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 3: are lessons to be learned from twenty nineteen. But I

821
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 3: also don't think you can just say, well, they rested

822
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 3: guys in nineteen, then they lost the game, so that's

823
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 3: what's gonna happen if you rest guys again. It's a

824
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 3: that game played out the way it did for a

825
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 3: variety of different reasons, not solely because they rest a

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Speaker 3: guy to two weeks prior.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you never can say how much was because

829
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Speaker 1: of that, but they just didn't play well that day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think.

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Speaker 1: This is a much better team than the twenty nineteen team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just do.

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Speaker 1: And most of its centers around Lamar Jackson. He's a

834
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: better quarterback operating in a better scheme. They're even to

835
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Speaker 1: have more ways to beat their opponents offensively and defensively.

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Speaker 1: The defense is better. They get more sacks, they get

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Speaker 1: more turnovers. They're just more solid at every single level.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, and Lamar's the straw that stirs the drink,

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00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: and he's just a better player. The guys on that

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen team know what that thing feels like. They

841
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 1: know they have to stay locked in. They can't expect

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00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: to go out there and just just bully people and

843
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: just play their style of the ball and have the

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Speaker 1: imputent bow down to them. That's what Lamar Jackson said.

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Speaker 1: That's why he's been so locked in. That's why he

846
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: barely smiled when he you know, basically locked up the MVP.

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00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: So for all those reasons, I think the Ravens twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three Ravens are more poised to go further than

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Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen Ravens did.

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Speaker 4: All Right, a couple quick emails here.

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Speaker 3: The first one is from Sarah, who says, Ryan Garrett,

852
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 3: longtime listener since day one, but a first time emailer.

853
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 3: I'm clearly recovering from celebrating that huge win over the Dolphins,

854
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 3: huge and New Year's Eve too hard last night. Yeah,

855
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Speaker 3: clinching the number one seed is the best way to

856
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Speaker 3: start twenty twenty four. This is as much as the

857
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Speaker 3: size them up Monday as we've seen in quite some time. Also,

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Speaker 3: here's a question from John Stremmel, who asked now that

859
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 3: Lamar just wrapped up his second MVP. Every two time

860
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 3: MVP is also in the Hall of Fame. So my question,

861
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Speaker 3: Lamar just secure his spot in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I actually was thinking about that. If Lamar

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Speaker 1: wins the Super Bowl this year and the MVP, which

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Speaker 1: I think he will definitely, and I think he.

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Speaker 2: Will win the Super Bowl too, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Then, Yeah, he's probably a Hall of Famer. AM MVP

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Speaker 1: at a super Bowl champion, you're probably a Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if the super Bowl thing happens, Yeah, yes,

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00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 3: if the Rays win the Super Bowl, I think definitely.

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Speaker 3: Even independent of that, right now, I think that he's

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00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 3: made a very strong case that he's already locked it up.

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00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: Of course you have to see how the rest of

874
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 4: his career plays out all this stuff, but.

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Speaker 3: Two time MVP, as John said, now, all the two

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Speaker 3: time MVPs are in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: So and he's just gonna keep and he's just gonna

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Speaker 4: keep going crazy.

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Speaker 2: Part is he's so young.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just and the way that he's developed more

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Speaker 1: but the way he's developed his game sets him up

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Speaker 1: for more success for a longer period of time in

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Speaker 1: my opinion.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so we are shit.

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