1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Live life. Breathe there, I know somehow I'm gonna get there, 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: and hey, wonderful. 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: Almost there on YouTube? 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: All right, come on you YouTube, please send our stuff 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: to the people. Okay, So my wife and her best 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: friend accused me of having an affair, then got angry 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: when I didn't have one. This is OKOP, Home of 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: the Craziest Stories on Earth. I'm Sam and John. This 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: is really special relationship episode. We're gonna go through a 10 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: bunch of crazy relationship stories. But what do you think 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: should hope Pea's wife be mad that he didn't have 12 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: an affair. 13 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 3: This is the one of the dumbest premises I've ever 14 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 3: heard story because it's like, Wow, I found out that 15 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 3: you're not cheating, I'm leaving you what what? 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: Hey? 17 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: You know what. I'm so mad. You better go and 18 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: have an affair right now to fix this. 19 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, go pop out of a cade like like 20 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: instead of like having a birthday celebration or celebration of it, 21 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: not like an affair not happening. Maybe let's just like 22 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: have them come out of the cake with the affair 23 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: happening so they can see it straight to that exactly. 24 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: The person of the affair partner. 25 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: And also thank you for everyone coming through Viagra Pooh 26 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: pooh the raven I watched daily. Thank you. This is 27 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: a live one and let's lively get into it. 28 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: Sooo. 29 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: I thirty one male, and my wife twenty nine female, 30 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: had a baby last December. It was a traumatic birth 31 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: and my wife developed postpartum depression rough. While she was 32 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: originally going to go back to work after the birth, 33 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: she's been struggling enough that we decided to wait until 34 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: our daughter was a year old and reassess. She has 35 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: been going to therapy weekly. With my wife home full time, 36 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: I've had to work increased hours. This is something we 37 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: discussed prior to making the decision, as she knew this 38 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: from the start, so it sounds like they had all 39 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: agreed upon it initially. A few weeks ago, my boss 40 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: approached me about a project that will require a lot 41 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: of overtime in a short amount of time. It would 42 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: both be great financially and for my career. I talked 43 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: to my wife about it and she agreed that I 44 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: should say yes to my boss and for the four 45 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: weeks i'd be working on this, My mother in law 46 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: and her best friend, Jesse twenty nine female name change 47 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: would come help out with some of the duties that 48 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: I typically do. 49 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: Sam. I have to say it. I have to say it, 50 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: say it. 51 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: Put in I see you in the comments right now 52 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: if you see what's about to go down. Jesse's coming in. 53 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 3: He's working overtime, grinding on long hours. 54 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: Looks he got to be really grinded on. 55 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. Put a nice you come on. 56 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: Jesse too, is a stay at home mom with a 57 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: four year old and a two year old. She began 58 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: coming over during the day and would watch the kids 59 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: with my wife. Three weeks into the project, it became 60 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: clear that we'd need a few more weeks to get 61 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: it together. I went home that night and talked to 62 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: my wife about it. She said she was okay with it, 63 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: but got very cold in the days after. I guess 64 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 1: at cold feet. It wasn't unusual behavior the last few 65 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: months because I imagine of the postpartum depression, so I 66 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: didn't think much of it and tried not to take 67 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: it personally. During the last week of the project, right 68 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: because he's done that super big projects, right, grinding, big business. 69 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: I got home one night and saw that Jesse was 70 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: still at the house. I didn't think much about it 71 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: and said hi to her and my wife and then 72 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: went go back to change and check on our daughter. 73 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: Before I could get to her room, I heard Jesse 74 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: say something along the lines of he doesn't even stop 75 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: to greet you. Definitely a sign, and I imagine a 76 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: sign of cheating. Dude, that's like such a red flag 77 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: in a friend. 78 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna drop that he was so he was alwaysasperated. 79 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: He just red flag. 80 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: That's like, that's I feel like that's reading way too 81 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: much into the lines. 82 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: You know, why why do we have to do? 83 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: Like honestly, I truly think we've read enough of these 84 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 3: stories and like different experiences of these type of best 85 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: friends to see that they kind of. 86 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: Just want the They live for the drama, They live. 87 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 3: For the and it really messes up the friends' lives 88 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 3: because it's like, if the husband is innocent, you're creating 89 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 3: all of this over nothing, over such a you're just taking. 90 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: Some minute detail like he didn't greet you when he 91 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: came home, and yep, cheating affair. 92 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 2: Literally like could be tired, could be that's not There's. 93 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: A million other things. And also I hate how like 94 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: this person is inserting themselves into the relationship too, which 95 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: is generally a bad move, but I would let Yeah, Victoria, 96 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: thank you for putting the red flags, drapam. Yeah, no, 97 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: it's it's definitely a red flag. So I turned around 98 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: and asked what it was a sign of. It's like 99 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: confronting it. Immediately, my wife started crying and Jesse started 100 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: accusing me of having an affair. She told me that 101 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: I must hate my wife because she has postpartum depression 102 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: and not attracted her because she gained weight from the pregnancy. 103 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 2: That's use heaying. 104 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: Now, yeah, dude, a great friend. It's like, why do 105 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: you even love by fats so luckily? 106 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: Why don't you love her? 107 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: Either of these things are true. I'm trying my best 108 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: to help my wife through a postpart and depression while 109 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: supporting our family, and I think she looks great how 110 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: she is right now. She just hasn't wanted to have sex, 111 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: and I haven't pushed. Jesse then demanded when I see 112 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: my phone? I told her no, She told me that's 113 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: a sign. I'm guilty. 114 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 3: God, I mean, at that point, you do low key 115 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 3: kind of have to give it up just. 116 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: To be like I have nothing to prove. 117 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:33,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead. 118 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 3: But but also it's like, there's no if he's truly innocent, 119 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 3: there's no reason to. 120 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: But that's I'm gonna just go up to strangers on 121 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: the street now, and it's like, you're suspicious, give me 122 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: your phone, and if they don't give it to me, 123 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: you're cheating. They're you're cheating, You're chating, You're cheating. 124 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: I love that. 125 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, great exposing cheaters on the street. Great series. We 126 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: should do it. I told my wife that I would 127 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: let her see my phone if she wanted to. She nodded, 128 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: and then something inside me broke because she wanted to 129 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: see his phone. I guess it was the thought that 130 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: she actually believed I was having an affair that really 131 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: got to me, and that she didn't trust me after 132 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: everything we've been through. Well, she looked through the phone 133 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: and there was no evidence. Jesse started saying that I 134 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: deleted the evidence. Oh my god, Jesse is the most 135 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: toxic friend ever. Yes, she started screaming and woke up 136 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: our daughter, so I told her to get out of 137 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: the house, screaming John. 138 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: Waking up the child, like this is so ridiculous. 139 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: Eventually she left and I went to calm our daughter 140 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: since my wife was still on the couch crying. When 141 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: my daughter was asleep again, I sat down by my 142 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: wife and tried to talk to her about what's been happening. 143 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: She told me she's been worried ever since I started 144 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: working all the overtime. I told her that we talked 145 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: about how good of an opportunity it was, and she 146 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: agreed to letting me take on the project. She said 147 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 1: it was very suspicious to increase the length of the project. 148 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: I told her that sometimes that happens. She wanted more evidence, 149 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: so I showed her messages and emails with timestamps from 150 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: work and paste tubs showing the overtime. She said she 151 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: believed me and was sorry for doubting me. It was 152 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: just that Jesse has been telling her that these were 153 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: signs of cheating. 154 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: Jesse's planting this, Jesse planting. 155 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, because it was all fine before Jesse came into 156 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: the picture. 157 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: All good. 158 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: They had agreed upon it. 159 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: They had agreed upon it. 160 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 3: And I can also understand too, Like we've heard a 161 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 3: lot of stories where there was like Apollo, like they 162 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: were like, oh, let's like open up the relationship, and 163 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: later they regretted it. So I could see, especially with 164 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 3: the postpartum depression like those thoughts arising, But Jesse was 165 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 3: the one planting the seed and fanning the flames. 166 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean postpartum depression is already hard, and 167 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: then if you add a super toxic friend into the mix, 168 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: it gets even worse. And like Angie Wittsend said, Jesse 169 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: is projecting projecting. Probably Jesse probably got cheated on and 170 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: just doesn't want anyone to have a happy relationship. 171 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: Yes, Jesse is the crazy friend. 172 00:07:58,400 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 173 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: I asked sure why she believed Jesse more than me 174 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: and why she didn't come to me with her concerns. 175 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: She didn't have a real answer. It's been a couple 176 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: of weeks and the project is over. I actually scaled 177 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: back and I'm trying to work a little less than 178 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: I was before on the project so I can spend 179 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: more time with my wife and daughter. But I feel 180 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: so burnt out to do everything, and I'm becoming resentful 181 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: because in the back of my mind, I know that 182 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: my wife doesn't trust me. I ask myself, what happens 183 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: the next time I have a project, or I have 184 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,559 Speaker 1: to run Errand's one day, or if I'm a business trip, 185 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: am I going to come back every time to accusations 186 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: that I'm cheating. I've tried to bring it up a 187 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: couple of times, but my wife tells me it's not 188 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: the time and that she's too tired or sad. I 189 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: try to be mindful of her feelings, but I wonder 190 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: if that means that I can never have any of 191 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 1: my own. I'm not sure what to do here any 192 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 1: advice for how I can move forward? And there is 193 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: a big, juicy thick update. In fact, there are multiple 194 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: thick updates. Some people might maybe remember a story at 195 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: least similar to this, but we at least now have 196 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: updates today. But what do you think, John, Like, what 197 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: do you think is something that OPE can do? 198 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 2: Yeah? 199 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: I would love to know from you guys, But you 200 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: put your answers in the comments right now, like we 201 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: can discuss them. Yeah, we can discuss it live because 202 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: this is a lot of episode. 203 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 3: But yeah, I will say one thing really quickly to note, 204 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 3: I do think the husband is maybe being a teen 205 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 3: c bent harsh just considering like that Jesse was the 206 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 3: one planting everything and that she's going through the postpartum depression. 207 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 3: I think I would and he's probably just kind of 208 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 3: like in shock of like, oh my god, these accusations 209 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 3: and how the friend Jesse. 210 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 2: I would I would cut her a little bit of slack. 211 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: Especially because of the postpartum depression. 212 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: Especially because of the post part depression. 213 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 3: Look, when when a friend is planting ideas in your 214 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 3: head and just you can just get caught in the 215 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 3: spin cycle and like deeply cortex. That's why she didn't 216 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 3: have an answer when he asked her, Yeah, why didn't Why. 217 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: Because because it wasn't her, like like it wasn't coming 218 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: from her, Yeah, she was coming from her friends. She 219 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: didn't have these thoughts of like he's cheating, it's coming 220 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: directly from her friend. But I do think what OP 221 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: should do in this scenario is like, hey, I mean 222 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: I love you want to like, you know, keep this 223 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: thing going to a baby on the way or out 224 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: of the way in the world. Yeah, maybe is in 225 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: the world, maybe he's there this life. But I think 226 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: what maybe he could do is be like, hey, I 227 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: totally understand that thoughts like this happened. You know, you're 228 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: you're going through a lot mentally, But I don't think 229 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: Jesse should still be coming over. Yeah, Like I think 230 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: you I think that is like the very least you 231 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: could do, like setting out down that border. Uh, Gustavo says, 232 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: Jesse needs to be locked up. She is a menace 233 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: to society. Let's go. I don't know about locked up, 234 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: maybe definitely locked out of the house, the jail, straight 235 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: to jail. But John, you want to get into this thick, 236 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: juicy update, let's do it. So this comes. So the 237 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: first came from the like eight twenty three, and now 238 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 1: we are one like a couple days later, like eight 239 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 1: days later, so there's more context of the situation. Wait 240 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: what uh? Oh, my wife passed on early Monday morning, 241 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: like passed on is and died. I mean my wife 242 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: passed on early Monday morning. Convinced by her friend Jesse 243 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 1: that I was having an affair that I didn't have. 244 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: She had a mental break, which resulted in my taking 245 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: our infant daughter and staying with my parents for a while. 246 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: She was with her parents, who planned on taking her 247 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: to the hospital for an inpatient treatment on Monday. On 248 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,119 Speaker 1: Sunday night, she came to my parents' house and demanded 249 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: I give her our daughter because she had left her 250 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: alone for several hours the last time she was responsible 251 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: for her and had gotten physical with me, and I refused. 252 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: I offered to let her come in and spend time 253 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: with her while my parents and I were present, but 254 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: she didn't want to come in and wanted to take 255 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: her daughter with her. She was upset but left. Eventually 256 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: a few hours later, she drove into a tree and died. 257 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: I think intentionally, wowye, I was. 258 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 2: I was not expecting that turn. 259 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 1: The friend Jesse came to see my daughter and me yesterday, 260 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: which I mean, this is maybe too much, but like 261 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: there has to be some blame put on Jesse for 262 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,599 Speaker 1: like really kind of manipulating it. 263 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 2: This like very yeah, hurt person. 264 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: It's such Yeah, maybe not like all the blame, but yeah, yeah. 265 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: Ashley says, it's heartbreaking. Yeah, Amy, it's heavy. We or 266 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: starting with everyone else. The friend Jesse came to see 267 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: my daughter and me yesterday. After some tears, she told 268 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: me that she was planning to speak at my wife's funeral. 269 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: Question for the chat question for John, would you let 270 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: Jesse speak at your wife's funeral or your significant other's funeral? 271 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 3: I would definitely need some time to think about it, 272 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 3: and I would like if I am in a pe shoes, 273 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 3: I would be like. 274 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, give me, give me some time. I 275 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 2: don't know. 276 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: I would probably be so angry that I couldn't even Yeah, 277 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: everyone's saying no. Meredith says no, the Raven says no. Yeah, 278 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: Dice says no. 279 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 2: Nose across the board from me. 280 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: I would definitely say no. I would definitely. I mean, 281 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: and I don't know if it's even the right thing 282 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: to do, but like emotionally, at that point, I would. 283 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 3: I would just you can't get Yeah, you can't blame 284 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 3: someone for because so hard, like all of these things 285 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 3: just happened to Op right, biggest thing being his wife 286 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 3: passing away. 287 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: Because of this. 288 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 3: Whole thing, you really can't blame him, you know, like 289 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 3: for anyone would have a I feel like an intense 290 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 3: emotional reaction. 291 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it is what it is, grief, all right, 292 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna dive back in. So, after some tears, she 293 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: told me she was planning to speak at my myst funeral. 294 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: She had already cleared it with my in laws, but 295 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: was letting me know as a courtesy. Oh my god, 296 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna do this, just letting you know, just 297 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: letting you know what the in laws don't know. You think. 298 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: Do you think Jesse's lying? I am not revealing the 299 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: whole truth. 300 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's at a bare minimum omitting the truth. 301 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 302 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 303 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: I told her she would not be speaking at the funeral, 304 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: which I feel like is a good move. Yes, we fought, 305 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: and she left after telling me that I would an 306 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: a hole and not the only person who loved my wife, 307 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: which is a good rebuttal. But it's like you weren't 308 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: showing her love while she was living. 309 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 310 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: I talk to my in laws, who were adamant that 311 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: Jesse be allowed to speak. She and my wife knew 312 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: each other since they were kids. Oh that makes it complicated. Yeah, 313 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: and my in laws are close to her. We're all 314 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: very fragile right now, and I fear that pushing this 315 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: further would hurt my relationship with my in laws, which 316 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: I don't want, especially because there's a kid still. The 317 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: thought of seeing Jesse up there at my wife's funeral 318 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: makes me feel sick. I don't think I can stand 319 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: to listen to her, knowing that she took joy in 320 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: my wife's deteriorating mental health and picked up my wife, 321 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: leaving my daughter home alone. That being said, I don't 322 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: trust myself to make the best decisions right now. My 323 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: mind's clouded by grief, guilt, and fear. 324 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. 325 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: My parents are split on what to do, and I 326 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: don't have the energy to reach out to my friends. 327 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: So I'm coming here to reddits again to ask you 328 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: for your advice. 329 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 2: Thank you. 330 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: So, I mean I want to hear from all of 331 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: you guys in the chat, like, what advice do you 332 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: have for op Would you stand clear and say like, hey, 333 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let Jesse uh speak at the funeral. 334 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: I would love to know what you guys think. But John, 335 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: what would you do? 336 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, in quick preface, this is kind of 337 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 3: like an impossible It's it's kind of impossible to imagine 338 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 3: yourself in this scenario without actually having gone through it. 339 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 3: That being said, I think me personally, I probably would 340 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 3: just let her. I might even like step out while 341 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 3: she's while she's speaking, because again, I do want to 342 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 3: I'm assuming I, you know, love the in laws. I 343 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 3: want my I want my child to continue to have 344 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 3: a good relationship with their grandparents and and and just 345 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 3: not I'm I'm already going through all this stuff with Jesse. 346 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: I don't want to bring that to the grandparents while 347 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: they're grieving their child, lost of their child. 348 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: I think that's rough, is like does it like to 349 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: have to think about balancing all of these social dynamics 350 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: at a at the funeral when like, really, the only 351 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: thing that you should have to do is just grieve. 352 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: We're yeah, let yourself grief. Yeah, give yourself the space. Yeah, 353 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: and like that kind of crowds that space. But is 354 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: the damage that can potentially happen greater by not allowing that? 355 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 3: And it's also like, because now you're bringing those same 356 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 3: dynamics and some hundred things to think about to the grandparents. 357 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 3: That to me is the thing. It's like, now they're 358 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 3: having to go through all of this. I think maybe 359 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 3: let her speak, maybe step out while she's speaking. At 360 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 3: some point afterwards. Uh, It's kind of hard to say when, 361 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 3: but at some point afterwards, sit the grandparents down and 362 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 3: like let them know the truth so Jesse doesn't continue 363 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 3: to try it, Like, let's let's eventually get Jesse. 364 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 2: Out of here. I don't want Jesse near my child. 365 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: Definitely not near the child. No, yeah, no, maybe reads 366 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: with her comments from uh some people, so like Burning 367 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: Rose says, Jesse doesn't get to go to the funeral. 368 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: Go no contact with her and the in laws too 369 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: if they try to push, which I could see going 370 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 1: no contact with Jesse for sure, But it feels like 371 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: Op wants a relationship with the in law kind of 372 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: assuming that's what it's Yeah, that's what it seems. Yeah, 373 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: it seems like like it seems like, uh, Op, he's 374 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: trying to preserve the relationship with the in laws but 375 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: does not want Jesse there. Nicole Stewart says, with the 376 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: history of the family and connection from a young age 377 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: and not wanting to piss off the in laws, I 378 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: would bite my tongue and let her talk. I feel 379 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: like that's probably cool. 380 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's was Nicole. I would say, I'm probably on 381 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 2: board with you on that. 382 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. And then Carr says, this is such a sucky situation. 383 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: I honestly be more worried that she would try to 384 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: push the narrative that Op was cheating. I didn't even 385 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: think about that. 386 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 2: I did not think about that. 387 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: Car, Dude. That is such a good point, Car, Yeah, 388 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: very good, because because. 389 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 2: What if she if her what if she starts of ass. 390 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 1: Starts spreading lies that. 391 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 2: One tries to expose them at the funeral. 392 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 3: That would be what if she you mean, at the speech, 393 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 3: because we already know how insane she is. We already 394 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 3: know that she's willing to disrupt the piece and all this, 395 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 3: and she loves the drama, wake up the baby other stuff. 396 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,959 Speaker 1: Oh dude, I could totally see her doing it. Unfortunately, Okay, 397 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: that could Carr kind of change my position. 398 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, I think so too. 399 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: No Jesse at all. 400 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 3: I think I go to Jesse and I'm like, I'm 401 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 3: not gonna give you the chance, the opportunity, and maybe 402 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,959 Speaker 3: maybe at that point you do bring that to the grandparents. 403 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 3: Because here's what's worse. Jesse ruining the funeral for the grandparents. 404 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 3: That's actually worse. 405 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: And it feels like something that could potentially happen. 406 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: Could potentially happen. 407 00:19:55,520 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: But uh, you know what definitely will potentially happen this 408 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: live stream? 409 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: What is that? 410 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: I think you reading this next story? 411 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 2: Oh? Wow? Are we over? 412 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: We're over? Oh my, that's the last update? 413 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: Dude. Wow, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna be honest. I 414 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 2: was just like clutching the edge of edge edge of 415 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 2: my seat, and. 416 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: Is that that that that is the last update. Yeah 417 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: oh wait, oh no, wait wait wait wait you missed one? 418 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: Did I miss one? 419 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? 420 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: Okay? Where where where? 421 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: Where? 422 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: There is some like I guess juicy middle part that 423 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: I may have missed. So I'm gonna do that middle. 424 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 2: Part all right, Okay, fill in the context. 425 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,719 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to fill in some more context. So 426 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: there is an update. This is I guess a little 427 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: bit before OP says I need to go to the 428 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: therapist and start looking after my own mental health. A 429 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: couple people ask for an update, so I'm giving one, 430 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: but it's not happy that. That night, I approached my 431 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: wife and told her that I was going to find 432 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: a therapist. I didn't connect it to her accusations or anything, 433 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: just said I was having a tough time and needed therapy. 434 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: So again, we're kind of going back in time a 435 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: little bit and getting some more contexts that ope, like 436 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: I guess maybe didn't have in the first one. Yes, 437 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: she shrugged and told me to do whatever. Next day 438 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: I got home from work in our room in my 439 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: home office were ripped apart, things everywhere, important papers scattered. 440 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: I don't see her, but our daughters in her room crying. 441 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: My wife left her alone, her cells off. So again, 442 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: this is before every like like Opie's wife passed away. 443 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: I called my in laws and a few friends, but 444 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: no one's seen her. I'm starting to get worried, and 445 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: I called my mom to see if she can babysit 446 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: while I go out and look for her. Before my 447 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: mom get home. My wife gets back. Jesse's driving. So 448 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: now we're getting the context, like what actually happened when 449 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: she disappeared? Right, Jesse doesn't come. She hasn't been back 450 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: in the house since I kicked her out because she 451 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: was offended by my behavior. A good thing that you 452 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: kicked her out, but my wife does. She's clearly upset, 453 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: been crying. I asked what happened. I thought at first 454 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: the house might have been robbed. She starts screaming at 455 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: me that I'm being unfaithful and that the therapy is 456 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: a front so I can meet my mistress, which I imagine 457 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: is planted by Jesse. 458 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 459 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: I tried to calm her down and tell her that's 460 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: not true, but she came at me and she hit me. 461 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: My nose is broken, so it's not even a light hit. Yeah, 462 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: she kind of realized what she did and sat down 463 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: on the couch and went comatose, just stared at the wall. 464 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: I went to my daughter's room and locked the door, 465 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: called my mom to tell her what happened. She was 466 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: already on her way, and my mother in law to 467 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: ask her to come over and take care of my wife. 468 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: I packed a bag for my daughter, and when my 469 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: mom got there, we left. My wife didn't even look up. 470 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: We dropped my daughter off with my dad and then 471 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: went to urgent care for my nose because the nose 472 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: is completely broken. I got blood all over my mom's 473 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: new Suparu. I mean, luckily, superus are pretty terrible, but 474 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: so sorry. I just had to. 475 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 2: No responsors, no responsors named vehicle. 476 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: My daughter and I are staying. That was bad. 477 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, guy. 478 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: My daughter and I are staying with my parents for 479 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: a while, and my wife's staying with hers. I'm looking 480 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: into getting a restraining order against Jesse. My wife and 481 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: I are separating. I love her, but I won't live 482 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: with someone who hurts me and who could potentially hurt 483 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: our daughter. I am not going forward to the divorce yet, 484 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: with hopes that my wife will get the treatment she 485 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: needs and we can work things out. My in laws 486 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: told me that they're looking at an impatient treatment at 487 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: a local hospital, but I also have everything well documented 488 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: in case of an eventual custody battle. My heart's broken 489 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: because I know this isn't my wife. This is a 490 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: sickness in her mind. But I need to keep myself 491 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: and our daughter safe and give her the space to recover. 492 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that this is the right decision. Thanks everyone. 493 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: So I guess that's that's more of the context that 494 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: we kind of missed in between those two updates. But 495 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's it's so rough because it's like 496 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: you can i mean, people change, you know, in. 497 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 2: Terms of like Jesse, oh, in terms of in terms. 498 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: Of the wife. It's like it's like and it's it's 499 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: not it's hard because it's like not really her fault 500 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: at all. 501 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 502 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 3: So, I mean, some people like, uh, develop schizophrenia and 503 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 3: they're like thirties and forties, you know, and it's like. 504 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: Fun, dude, don't tell me that. I'm like I want 505 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 1: already coming around the corner we go. 506 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, also this gives me even more. 507 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 1: This is the context. 508 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, thinking about Carr's comment of like what if Jesse 509 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 3: comes to try to ruin the funeral. This makes me 510 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 3: think even more that Jesse is going to do that. 511 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah. I mean we just got more 512 00:24:54,960 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: context that like she like was driving opsy, she was 513 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: she possibly contributed tearing up the entire place. And what 514 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: I guess he was saying in the third update was 515 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: like she was the one that left the daughter home alone. 516 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, daughter, I feel like as soon as you tell 517 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 3: the grand the in law is that like, yeah, Jesse 518 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 3: like you know, left left her alone. That's like enough 519 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 3: because she left her alone to prioritize stirring up the drama, 520 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 3: Like that alone should be enough to get her out 521 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 3: of the funeral. 522 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully. Yeah. 523 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: I feel like if I if I like, if I 524 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: presented this to uh, the the the mother in law 525 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,719 Speaker 1: and the father in law be like like, look, this 526 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: is this is my documentation of what's happened. Yes, like 527 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,239 Speaker 1: she cannot be there. Danielle said, this story is so 528 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: sad and tragic. Yeah, completely. How old is the daughter? 529 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: The daughters a newborn, so it's like yeah, yeah, yeah, 530 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: so I imagine it's like maybe no more than a 531 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 1: year old, yeah, probably less, but yeah, so that uh 532 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: we we just we just got we got like a 533 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: little bit more context. And Sarah, thank you for tuning 534 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: into the live Yes, A got her. You're here. But John, 535 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: now that we have the full story, this full sad, 536 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: sad story to start with us, do you have another 537 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: story for me? Possibly that is maybe a little less sad? 538 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 2: Producer Riley? Right, do we have is our next story? Uh? How? 539 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: What's what's the mood? What's the vibes? 540 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 5: Yeah? You just gotta figure it out. 541 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 2: We just gotta figure it out, all right, We're gonna 542 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 2: do that. 543 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,239 Speaker 3: Nothing easy, nothing easy, okay, Producer Riley keeping us on 544 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 3: our toes with this story. Am I a holfer re 545 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 3: turning the shoes I got from my husband after he 546 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 3: accused me of stealing from him? 547 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: Again? 548 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 3: This is okay, op, Home of the craziest true stories 549 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 3: on Earth. I'm John and Sam. Do we think the 550 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 3: OP is a dirty, filthy thief? 551 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, I think Op is a dirty, filthy thief. 552 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: And he's trying to cover up the tracks by using 553 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: Reddit as an alibi. Ah, I wrote those Reddit posts 554 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: and it says I'm innocent. How could I not be innocent? 555 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 3: Well, we're about to see we're about to get another 556 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 3: verdict from all of you watching me right now. 557 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: If my no context guess is right. 558 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 2: Woo. 559 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 3: So this is from Campfire by Lake seventy seven, who says, 560 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 3: my twenty nine husband thirty six is the breadwinner of 561 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 3: the family. I stay at home with the kids who 562 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 3: are preschool age. He pays for the mortgage bills, household needs, food, kids, 563 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. He has set a monthly budget 564 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 3: for each category and handles getting everything done. Recently he 565 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 3: has become overwhelmed and told me to handle grocery shopping. 566 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 3: But before he let me, he asked me to write 567 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 3: a list of all the stuff that we need so 568 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 3: he could calculate the total, and also so he'd have 569 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 3: an idea of how much I'll be spending when I. 570 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 2: Take his credit card. 571 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 3: So he's still staying on top of the budget like 572 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 3: doing his budgeting. 573 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 2: It's a worship. 574 00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: It feels like too much, A little bit. 575 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 3: Well, I mean bro was doing uh, he was providing 576 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 3: for the family, handling the budget and handling grocery shopping. 577 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: Like is he handling grocery shopping? 578 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 3: You're passing it off? I believe right, Okay, he's passing 579 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,239 Speaker 3: it off. Yeah, so he was grocery shopping and he's like, 580 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 3: this is too much. I'm gonna pass it off. But 581 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 3: I'm I'm staying on my budget game. Let me know, 582 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 3: so I can like account for that. 583 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: Wow, that is that would be so stressful doing it 584 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: that detailed of a budget. 585 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 2: I think. 586 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 3: I think what you're pointing out, which which is a 587 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 3: good observation, is so I can know how much to 588 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 3: expect you'll spend. 589 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Some people are putting financial abuse 590 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: in the chat. The raven says it. Yeah, Yeah, it 591 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: feels like it feels like a lever of control. 592 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, because why don't is hey just say like, hey, 593 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 3: we're gonna shoot for a thousand bucks a month. 594 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 2: Just try to stay in tide of that. 595 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: That's really what he's that's reasonable. But it's like, don't 596 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: spend more than five dollars on milk. 597 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 2: A week like bro way way Way actually. 598 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: Sometimes costs more. Do you see about the egg crisis 599 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: and eggs were crazy expensive for a while. 600 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 2: Eggs blowing up out here. Well, back to the story. 601 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 3: I didn't have an issue with that because this way 602 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 3: we would watch our spending habits. However, he said, I'm 603 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 3: never allowed to get something that isn't on the list 604 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 3: unless I'm paying for it some other way. 605 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 2: And here we go, Pattison. 606 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: But how how she's taking care of your children? 607 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 3: This is this is the like financial control. This is 608 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 3: him like sinking his closet him. Yeah, this is crazy. 609 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 3: This show's he's crazy. 610 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: That is a red flag, red flags in the chat. 611 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: Red flags in that seems like a red flag to you. 612 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 3: Giant, giant, giant red flag again, Like I feel like 613 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 3: all you would need to do is be like, hey, 614 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 3: let's shoot for one thousand a month. 615 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you go like a little bit over, who cares? 616 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: Actually I don't really. I mean I've never been married, 617 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: so I don't actually know how this do you? Like 618 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: for anyone who is married? In the chat? Like, do 619 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: you guys like have budgets for like groceries or like 620 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: budgets for especially like stay at home moms? Like do 621 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: you have like budgets for how much you spend or 622 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: that you agree on? I mean people have budgets. Yeah, 623 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: I don't even know how it works. How does it work? 624 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: You have budgets? Yeah, let us know about your break? Oh, 625 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: share your budgets your budget let us know. I mean, 626 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: you're just your philosophy. You don't have to give numbers 627 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: eggs every security number. Job. 628 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 3: Anyways, So on Friday, I was doing some grocery shopping 629 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 3: as usual and saw that the store had some nice 630 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 3: shoes on sale. The price was insanely low for this brand, 631 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 3: and so is. 632 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: It on the list? I have a suspicion it's not 633 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: the listen, Oh my goodness, And. 634 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 3: So I decided to grab a pair for my husband, 635 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 3: not even for her yep, yep, thinking that he'd be 636 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 3: happy with them since he needed new sneakers. Anyways, I 637 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 3: bought them, and when I showed them to him, he 638 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 3: flipped out on me, saying I made a huge mistake 639 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 3: by buying something that was not on the list. 640 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: I wonder, My question is, are they like what is 641 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: their financial situation like? Are they like super strapped? Yeah, 642 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: and so every dollar counts? Or does like man have 643 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: like a comfy tech job and he's just being super controlling. Yeah, 644 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: it feels like it's just the controlling. 645 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 2: It's the controlling. 646 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: It feels like it's the control. 647 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 3: I'm gonna kind of guess and assume that maybe they're 648 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 3: not like super super loaded. But it's he's he. This 649 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 3: is clearly him just doing control. I think, yeah, it 650 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 3: wouldn't even matter if he made. 651 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: Me because there I feel like there, it feels like 652 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: there's just no trust, like financial trust in this relationship. 653 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 2: It's so Yeah, it's so dumb because if you if you. 654 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: Just agree upon a budget, then there's financial trust. It's like, oh, 655 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: I can I can go about and like work within 656 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: what we've agreed upon. But this is way too over there. 657 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 3: And why would you like it's It would be if 658 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 3: I was the husband, I would be stressed out keeping 659 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 3: track of all this. It's just further shows he's using 660 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 3: it as a means of control over the life. 661 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, let us know. Do you think it's control or 662 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: do you think man is just on his budget game? 663 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: But your answer to watch a lot of Dave Ramsey 664 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: financial guru over here. Yeah, let us know what you 665 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: think for your answers in the chat and we have 666 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: it live. 667 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 2: We have it live. 668 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 3: So I agreed with him, but I thought that since 669 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 3: the shoes were for him, that it would be different. 670 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 3: He said, I screwed up and shouldn't have bought those sneakers, 671 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 3: even without telling them. But in my defense, I said 672 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 3: that the price was low, so it's not like I 673 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 3: spent one hundred dollars on shoes. And also I saw 674 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 3: that this was a great deal and wanted to and 675 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 3: wanted him to have those nice sneakers. He plainly said 676 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 3: that what I did is considered stealing since he never 677 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 3: your Red team, y'all you're married, you're married, since he 678 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 3: never consented to having those sneakers purchased, and said that 679 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 3: I'm being irresponsible with his money, and that is why 680 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 3: I no longer have an income and have my and 681 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 3: have my spending habits. 682 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 2: Needing a grib? 683 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: What's a grib? What is a gribe? Tell us what 684 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: a grib is. 685 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 2: I'm guessing it's like guardrails a grib. 686 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: But wow, Like, also just the language that he uses 687 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: my money, Like I feel like if you're in a 688 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: if you're in a partnership, especially in this kind of partnership, 689 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: it's like like you start using words like our right, 690 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: this is this. 691 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 2: It's just further further. 692 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 3: The more this man opens his mouth, the further it 693 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 3: shows that he's like grossly discussed. 694 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: I think Christian has a solution for us. Oh, devorse, divorse, divorse, divorsevorse. Yeah, 695 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: I agree, I agree that I think it's a way 696 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: way like, definitely a method of control. 697 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 3: Leave this guy, my goodness, I felt hurt by what 698 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 3: he said, as you should, as you should a duh. 699 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 3: We argued about it for hours and he avoided speaking 700 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:10,919 Speaker 3: to me for the rest of the day. 701 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 2: What a baby, What a douche? Yeah, this guy's big 702 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 2: old awful. 703 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 3: The next day, I went and returned the sneakers and 704 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 3: took the money back. He got home in the evening 705 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 3: and lost it when he found out I returned them. Yeah, 706 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 3: this guy, This guy's no, no. 707 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: He's like, I was bad that you bought the but 708 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: now I feel attached to totally my style. 709 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 3: Literally completely to control her, and just like, it's not 710 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 3: about the. 711 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 2: Shoes, No, not about the shoes, about the money, It's. 712 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 1: Not about that. It is all about control. 713 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 3: He got home in the evening and lost it when 714 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 3: I found out I had to return them. He said 715 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 3: that he couldn't believe how petty and childish I was 716 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 3: to actually do this. 717 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 2: How petty and childish are you? Mother effort, I explained 718 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 2: that I was just correcting my quote unquote mistake. He 719 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 2: tried to. 720 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 3: Contact the store and was told that the sneakers were 721 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 3: already sold. He got even angrier with me, and I 722 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 3: told him that he accused me of stealing for him 723 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 3: when I was just trying to do a nice gesture 724 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 3: for him. He yelled, saying that I had a lot 725 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 3: of nerds, a lot of nerve, calling what I did 726 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 3: a nice gesture while using his money to do it. 727 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 3: I I told him he had no right to yell 728 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 3: at me. After I corrected my quote unquote mistake and 729 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 3: gave that back the money he accused me of stealing, 730 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 3: he threw a fit and went out with his friends 731 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 3: and came home late at night, still not talking to me. 732 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 2: I have something for the breakdown. Now, Did I mess up? 733 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 3: Maybe I shouldn't have purchased them, knowing that they weren't 734 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 3: on the list, but I just wanted to. I just 735 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 3: wanted him to have those sneakers, and I thought I 736 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 3: was doing a nice gesture. That is the end of 737 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 3: the story. I think that, in addition to his controlling, manipulative. 738 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 3: Just like I don't know a psychopathic, I don't know 739 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,919 Speaker 3: the exact term psychopathic, I don't know something to give us. 740 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: Some terms we can call this Yeah, yeah, gross behavior. 741 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 3: Basically, I think he's cheating and yeah, he's like, okay, wow, 742 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 3: look at look at what you made me do, buying 743 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,280 Speaker 3: me shoes and returning I'm like literally all doing good things. 744 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 2: And then he goes out using that extree to go 745 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 2: out late and cheat. Yeah. 746 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I don't I don't know 747 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: if I can say he's cheating quite yet, Like we 748 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: just John's going and I did. Yeah, but I mean 749 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: like he's definitely sus I mean, just to just to 750 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,760 Speaker 1: go out late and do god knows what, like not 751 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: not there's another red flag. It's like there's a communication 752 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: breakdown too. It's control and there's a breakdown of communication. 753 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's something that the thing is 754 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: like in the case of divorce, like it's definitely going 755 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: to be because he has so much control over it's 756 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,959 Speaker 1: gonna be hard for her too. Yeah, but I feel 757 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: like it's the It is the best path. 758 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 3: It is overall, like long term, the best solution, although 759 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 3: it might hurt a lot more now in the meantime. 760 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, someone said leave as soon as possible. Yeah, Jessica says, 761 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 1: leave as fast as possible. Yeah, I mean, you gotta leave, 762 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 1: you gotta leave. It's it, it's it's it's terrible. 763 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 764 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 3: Emotional Yeah, someone else said emotional and financial abuse. 765 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 766 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: Then he says wife breathed husband. How dare you? That's 767 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 1: what it feels, right, That's what it feels like. 768 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,280 Speaker 2: That is exactly what's happened. 769 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 3: She she's literally not only is she not doing anything wrong, 770 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,959 Speaker 3: she's doing things that are good because like, think, think. 771 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: About this, she's fixing problems. 772 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 3: She saw that his shoes were old, and it's like, 773 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 3: we're gonna have to buy shoes. Anyways, these are a 774 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 3: good deal, so we will save money me getting this 775 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 3: deal right. 776 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 1: And the thing is he obviously liked them because he 777 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: wanted them back. Not only did she get like shoes 778 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: that were on sale and a great deal, she got 779 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: some swaky has shoes that he was so mad that 780 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: he couldn't get back that he yelled at everyone he 781 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: could what what? 782 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 4: What? 783 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:53,399 Speaker 2: More? 784 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: Like, she sounds super thoughtful. I mean, she just has 785 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 1: to get out of there. I wonder if there's like, 786 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 1: are there like resources for like stay at home parents 787 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 1: that like in divorce, because like to hire a lawyer, 788 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 1: you need money. But if someone is super controlling of 789 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: the finances. Like, how does that? I wonder how that 790 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,240 Speaker 1: even works if anyone knows, But like put your answers 791 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 1: in the comments, because it's like, how does that? How 792 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: does that work? When you don't when when the financewers 793 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: are being so controlled that you couldn't even hire a 794 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 1: lawyer to start to get a divorce? 795 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 2: Yeah? 796 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 3: Maybe, I mean maybe there's a public defender. I don't 797 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 3: know if you can get a public defender in absolutely everything. 798 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:31,720 Speaker 2: I'm really not sure. 799 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, I have no Yeah, I mean I imagine shelters. 800 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 2: Shelters be a place to go. 801 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: But how do you Yeah, but how do you? Like, 802 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: how do you how do you get a lawyer? You 803 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:42,760 Speaker 1: need a lawyer? 804 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 2: That's the question. Yeah, that is the question. 805 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,439 Speaker 1: But you know what question I have for you? John? 806 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 2: What is that? 807 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 1: Are you ready to put this next story? 808 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 2: No? But do it anyway? 809 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: I captain. So this is today. I a ft up 810 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: by accusing my husband of cheating when I thought I 811 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: had a really good reason to be suspicious. 812 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 2: What is the reason. 813 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: I'm very curious about the reason. What what is a 814 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: good reason? Leaving? Uh? 815 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 2: The seeing them? 816 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a pretty good reason, babe. 817 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 3: I was just she she had some you know, suspicious 818 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 3: stuff going on. 819 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 2: I was doing a thorough and spell building a fort. 820 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 2: He's a doctor, and he's like, the only way I 821 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 2: can do this inspection that. 822 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: It's at home inspection. He was a doctor. 823 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 3: He was a doctor, the bed doctor with a migraine. 824 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 3: I had to turn off all the lights, and then 825 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 3: I was on. I didn't want her to be the 826 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 3: only one naked, so I had to get naked too. 827 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, for comfort, for comfort, for comfort probably. I also 828 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: put in the chat some of the best reasons to 829 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 1: be suspicious of a partner cheating. But my hubby's been 830 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 1: working late on and off for the past few weeks, 831 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 1: which is very new because in our nearly twelve years together, 832 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: that's a long time. The one thing he's always been 833 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: adamant about is separating his wor in his home life. 834 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: Sometimes he'd stay only an hour, sometimes two, sometimes thirty minutes. 835 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,720 Speaker 1: I began to grow a bit suspicious, but I haven't 836 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: said anything, so I guess it's like he's staying over 837 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 1: like an hour, two hours, sometimes thirty minutes. He's like 838 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 1: he's working late. I began to grow suspicious, then yesterday. 839 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: He stayed afterwards for about an hour, which delayed date 840 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 1: night that we had planned. When he came home, I 841 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 1: was just looking at him, admiring my man, and then 842 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: I caught a glimpse of orange in his beard. For context, 843 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: my hobby is not ginger, neither am I. In fact, 844 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: he is black and his hair is black. I looked 845 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: a bit closer and there was an orange hair in 846 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 1: his beard. It caught the light perfectly, and it was 847 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: the confirmation of my worst fears. He's eating out a ginger. 848 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 2: Oof, that's a no ipe. 849 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: He did not say that, but oh my god, I 850 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,399 Speaker 1: just said I fing knew it and started crying. Would 851 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: you be suspicious if you saw a another person's hair 852 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: in someone's beard, like if someone's if if Naima saw 853 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 1: a long red strand of hair in your beard, would 854 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:19,919 Speaker 1: she be mad? 855 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 3: I guess, I guess because you could, like, what are 856 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 3: the scenarios where it's innocent? 857 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 2: Work, colleague, you know, working? Like like hey, all right, 858 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:28,479 Speaker 2: hey have a good one. 859 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, John has gets stuff in his beard all the 860 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: time too. 861 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 3: Damn really wait, nice, have you ever seen stuff in 862 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,439 Speaker 3: my beard and just eating eating? 863 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: I'll be like, yeah, you got a little bit of 864 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 1: schmutz all my beard. Boys like they get schmutz in 865 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: their beard? 866 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:47,320 Speaker 2: What is it? 867 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,760 Speaker 3: Venni Vennie says, beard is a red flag. Sorry job guys, 868 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 3: Why what? What's just no question? Just know that it is. 869 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:57,280 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 870 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: He asked me what was wrong, and I called him 871 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: a lot eyeing cheater and he said what the f 872 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: And I said, who's that ginger hair from? He looked confused, 873 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 1: and he said he knows there's a ginger hair in 874 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,240 Speaker 1: his beard, and what's so bad about that? I was flabbergasted. 875 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: And then he was like, you haven't noticed this time 876 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 1: that I have dark orange hairs. What turns out that 877 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 1: his whole life he's always had a few random orange 878 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 1: hairs in his beard, and that he never thought anything 879 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:34,839 Speaker 1: about it. And I've never noticed. Nice con bro. Now 880 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: you have to dye those hairs, so the rest are 881 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 1: your marriage. 882 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 883 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 1: He told me to grab the hair and pull on it, 884 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: and I grabbed some tweezers and sure enough it was 885 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: his hair. And he even looked like the rest of 886 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: his hair coarse and curly. Man, the girl was really 887 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 1: he was stretching. Yeah, the last girl out here. He 888 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: showed me some of the other ginger hairs that he had. 889 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: Apparently when he shaves it off or pulls out, it 890 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: grows back ginger. I felt like the biggest idiot in 891 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 1: the world. My hobby took it wonderfully, and I apologize 892 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 1: for being so insecure and told him that I was 893 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: feeling about you know, she was feeling about like him 894 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,839 Speaker 1: working late. He said that he knows that he that 895 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 1: that this is a problem and he's sorry, but he's 896 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 1: had a couple of mortgage and investment deals lately and 897 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: he stays behind to finish the paperwork instead of punting 898 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,399 Speaker 1: it to the next workday. I love how he's apologizing 899 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 1: for kind of having orange. 900 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 3: Beerd and and for trying to be as productive, and 901 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 3: like he's like, you know what, I need to get 902 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 3: ahead of it, let me finish it today. 903 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 2: So that was proactive. 904 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 1: Yeah. His company has an app to track time which 905 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,959 Speaker 1: worked his which his boss signs off and on of. 906 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,359 Speaker 1: And he logged into his app and showed me all 907 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 1: the authorized overtime, which perfectly lined up with the times 908 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,840 Speaker 1: he had been working late. I apologize for being insecure, 909 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 1: and he accepted my apology and we moved and we 910 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: moved on from it, but I still cringe when thinking 911 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 1: about it. I suck I out. Don't kill me, y'all. Hahaha. Question, 912 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 1: is this a red flag for op? I want to 913 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: know what your thoughts are in the chat. But John, 914 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: do you think this is a red flag? 915 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna say red flag because the I mean, 916 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 3: I guess I could see the suspicion. I mean, it's 917 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 3: it's almost like where your mind first jumps to. I guess, like, 918 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 3: and I'm just generally not observed it like that, but like, 919 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 3: I feel like if I saw that, it wouldn't even 920 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 3: the synapses wouldn't synapse enough to be able to. 921 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 1: Make cheating is so far from your mind. 922 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 3: So far from my mind. But I guess apparently I 923 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 3: have stuff in my beard all the time. You do, 924 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 3: and it's so suspicious, So. 925 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: It is, bro you know a lot of Riley curls 926 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 1: in your hair every once in a while. You never know, dude, 927 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 1: you never know. Yeah, right, don't bring me Riley is 928 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 1: shedding all over the place. But John, I feel like 929 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 1: it may be time to pull up that next story. 930 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 2: Really, I gotta say. Kimberly and Brazil ginger flag orange. 931 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,839 Speaker 1: That's orange flag. But while John is pulling off this 932 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 1: new story, I'll read some comments from the chat. So 933 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 1: Amy Gooseman says, my dad's hair was different textures and colors, 934 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 1: like a calico cat. So he kept his head and 935 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 1: beard cut until he retired. It happens, and why and 936 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,360 Speaker 1: why did the wife not notice? 937 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:26,720 Speaker 2: Before? 938 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 1: I am proud to say I know at least ninety 939 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 1: percent of my hubby's body. Only ninety percent. You got 940 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,879 Speaker 1: to explore that one hundred percent. Go inside it out, girl. 941 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 2: We got to make that the deep ocean. 942 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, all yeah, it would be like James Cameron spullunk 943 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 1: to the bottom of the depths, right. Don't be like 944 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 1: Ocean Gate, though, because you don't want to explode in 945 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: the wrong place. 946 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,359 Speaker 2: Millionaire, So goodness, gracious, yeah, that's no good. What are 947 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 2: the comments we got? What do we got going on? 948 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? Ted ed and lime juice. How would she not 949 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 1: notice the hairs though, because depending on how long they've 950 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 1: been together, I feel like you would notice something like that. 951 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I feel twelve years, twelve years, 952 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:04,280 Speaker 3: that's a while. 953 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 2: I definitely feel that's a while. 954 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 1: But like I don't know, some people aren't as perceptive, 955 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 1: and especially maybe if he's growing out the beard and 956 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: doesn't know. 957 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 2: In twelve years, you probably have done enough if you have. 958 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,240 Speaker 1: I've been able to grow a beard for at least 959 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 1: eight years, and I've never seen it at full length. 960 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:27,280 Speaker 3: Because you've never got Guys, put up a beard man emoji. 961 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 3: If so grow a beard, do not drop beard man emojis. 962 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 3: Do not drop the do not please do not make 963 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 3: me grow a beard. 964 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,320 Speaker 2: Drop the beard man emojis. 965 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 3: Guys, if we get a thousand beard man emoji, Sam 966 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,839 Speaker 3: will legally be forced to have to. 967 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,720 Speaker 2: Wear or have to grow a beard. 968 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 3: By the way, also, can we get a quick round 969 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 3: of applause for producer Riley? 970 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 1: Thank youducing that. Yeah, this is our first long live stream. 971 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna be We're gonna be live streaming for a while, 972 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: so please stick with us. We are not done yet 973 00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,839 Speaker 1: because John, you have a big, juicy Thicks story for us. 974 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is right, and that story is my ex 975 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,839 Speaker 3: girlfriend told me my current girlfriend sabotaged our relationship. Am 976 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 3: I the ahle for getting back with my ex? This 977 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,240 Speaker 3: is Okayop, we read the craziest two stories on Earth. 978 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 3: I'm John and Sam should op get back with his X. 979 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 3: Uh because the ex girlfriend is sabotage your relationship, right, 980 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 3: So the. 981 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,399 Speaker 1: Ex girl friend sabotage the ex girlfriend relationship. 982 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 3: That's what the eventually, that's what the ex claim. I cla, 983 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 3: I might hear her out. 984 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 1: I might hear her out, because then it's at least 985 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's a red flag for current girlfriend if 986 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 1: it's true. Exactly, not necessarily you should get back with 987 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 1: the X. But maybe if it's true, on the off 988 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 1: chance that's true, sit down and hear Yeah, what we 989 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 1: all recently watched The Notebook together. There was not a 990 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 1: dry eye in in our in our house. But she 991 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,839 Speaker 1: went back with Ryan Gosling at the end because it's 992 00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 1: her first and truest love. So maybe this is what 993 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:00,360 Speaker 1: is happening. 994 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:01,359 Speaker 2: Wow, that's so true. 995 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 3: And then, of course what else is true is that 996 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 3: everyone has commented beard emoji su I'm not know. 997 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 2: Sam is legally. 998 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 1: I will look so terrible. 999 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 3: Thank you ladies and gentlemen, and as your reward, let's 1000 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 3: get into this juicy story. So this one comes from 1001 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 3: fur Away ex girlfriend two five three two four, who says, 1002 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 3: I twenty eight male am really confused about the events 1003 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 3: of the last month. My ex girlfriend, Julie twenty nine 1004 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:31,240 Speaker 3: female thinks that my current girlfriend, Mindy twenty eight female 1005 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:38,799 Speaker 3: is manipulative and sabotaged our four year relationship. I was, Wow, 1006 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 3: that's a big that's a big statement, bold clamaka. I 1007 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 3: was was in a loving relationship with my ex girlfriend 1008 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,480 Speaker 3: Julie for the last four years. 1009 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,360 Speaker 2: We met through some mutual friends. 1010 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 3: My ex Julie and I were very compatible in terms 1011 00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,160 Speaker 3: of our love for outdoor activities and running. We have 1012 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,279 Speaker 3: a very similar lifestyle and supported each other well for 1013 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 3: the last four years. We also have been living together 1014 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 3: for the last three of those four years. We even 1015 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 3: discussed getting married during the summer. Everything was great and 1016 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 3: I was planning to propose to her over the holidays. 1017 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 1: Planning to propose to the current girlfriend to Julie the 1018 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 1: ex Oh go great, right, Oh no, it's gonna go great. 1019 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:25,800 Speaker 2: It's gonna go great, right right. 1020 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 1: Rather, but I see, if you know where it's going, 1021 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna go great. Uh. 1022 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 3: However, However, I started to see changes in behavior and 1023 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:40,320 Speaker 3: Julie around September. She was acting quite distant and looked stressed. 1024 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 3: It was quite noticeable and I was worried. I trust 1025 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 3: her with all of my heart, and I was not 1026 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:49,000 Speaker 3: worried or sorry. I trust her with all of my heart, 1027 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 3: and I could not imagine that she would be cheating 1028 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,480 Speaker 3: on me. However, she did spend more time by herself. 1029 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:56,440 Speaker 1: Okay. 1030 00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 3: Around that same time, my exll's friend Mindy messaged me 1031 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,800 Speaker 3: privately and asked me if I could meet her secretly 1032 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:09,720 Speaker 3: as she wanted to tell me something about Julie. Okay, 1033 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 3: Mindy and my ex Julie work together, and I have 1034 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 3: known Mindy ever since I started dating Julie. I was surprised, 1035 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 3: but to be honest, I had assumed the worst. I 1036 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 3: met her at a cafe after work, and she asked 1037 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,319 Speaker 3: me if things were going okay between Julie and me. 1038 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 3: She told me that Julia had told her she was 1039 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 3: planning to leave me soon. 1040 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 1: Oh oh man, that that is ice cold. Like we 1041 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 1: almost need like an ice pack on one of these 1042 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 1: cameras to to really cool this thing down. 1043 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 3: Almost, it's almost it's getting it's hot, it's on fire. 1044 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 3: I don't know if we can bring it back down. 1045 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 3: We really don't know. I have a question for everyone 1046 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 3: in the comments right now. I mean, so she is 1047 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,520 Speaker 3: going it's not even cheating. She's like, oh, she's planning 1048 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:56,160 Speaker 3: to leave you soon. 1049 00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,720 Speaker 1: But that's like why would the friend do that? 1050 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 2: That's the thing I would. 1051 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 3: I would think if it was like, hey, she's cheating 1052 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,760 Speaker 3: on you, that's more of a reason to like actually 1053 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,360 Speaker 3: sit sit down and tell the one. 1054 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 1: But to say, like she's planning on, why would And 1055 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 1: also why. 1056 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,680 Speaker 2: Would you take that upon yourself? 1057 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:13,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1058 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:14,840 Speaker 2: Is that really your place? 1059 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 1: That's a I would that's a red flag. Like anyone 1060 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 1: who told me that, I would be like, that's a 1061 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 1: red flag from you. 1062 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if I would think it's a 1063 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 2: red flag, but it's like. 1064 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,280 Speaker 1: I would, I would think it's a red flag from 1065 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,839 Speaker 1: from the person telling me that information. Many who are 1066 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 1: you to tell that to me? That should be coming 1067 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 1: from my from my partner. If she's really planning on, 1068 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,279 Speaker 1: it should be it should be I don't know, let's 1069 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 1: see what is it? It is meddling? Yeah, thenny I 1070 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:41,239 Speaker 1: agree with you. 1071 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 3: So after Oh he got this news, this was a 1072 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,759 Speaker 3: total shock to me. I asked her if there was 1073 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,400 Speaker 3: anyone else? I asked her if there was anyone else do? 1074 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,760 Speaker 3: I asked her if there was anyone else that Julie 1075 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,400 Speaker 3: was interested in, and she told me no. 1076 00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:57,839 Speaker 2: Julie confided in. 1077 00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,799 Speaker 3: Her that she was not sure about marry me. She 1078 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 3: told me that she just had to tell me this 1079 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,239 Speaker 3: as she didn't want me to be blindsided again in 1080 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,360 Speaker 3: the comments, is this Mindy's place? 1081 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,279 Speaker 2: Is this Mindy's place? Yes? Or no? 1082 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 1: Is it think? I think no? I think. I think 1083 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 1: it's definitely meddling, and I I just I don't. I 1084 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,360 Speaker 1: don't think that's at all. And what happened. 1085 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:30,440 Speaker 3: What's not meddling is the special guests that is here too, Sophia. 1086 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,400 Speaker 2: Guys say hi to Sophia, come over here, come over here. 1087 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:35,799 Speaker 2: Well she's she is. 1088 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 1: Hi fea. 1089 00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 4: I'm just delivering food. 1090 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,520 Speaker 1: Thank you. Toba probably is going to come into live 1091 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 1: stream later today. Get ready, get ready. But let's go 1092 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:47,200 Speaker 1: back into this story. 1093 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:49,759 Speaker 2: I was devastated. 1094 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,320 Speaker 3: I started putting more effort into making a relationship more exciting, 1095 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:57,280 Speaker 3: planning more dates, et cetera, et cetera. Mindy was also 1096 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,919 Speaker 3: helping me through this time and telling me more about 1097 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,439 Speaker 3: what Julie told her. 1098 00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:07,120 Speaker 1: Oh, dude, Mindy wants some Mindy wants a piece. Yeah, 1099 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 1: Mindy put in the chat, Mindy wants a piece. If 1100 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 1: you think Mindy wants. 1101 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:15,440 Speaker 2: A piece, Mindy wants a piece. Eventually before Thanksgiving, Julie 1102 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,759 Speaker 2: told me that she loved me. 1103 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,840 Speaker 1: Oh Julie dy wants a piece. 1104 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 2: No, that's Julie. 1105 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm so excited. 1106 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 2: Oh no, partner. 1107 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 3: But she wanted to take a break for a month 1108 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:35,759 Speaker 3: to live alone. So she did technically want to, you know, 1109 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,359 Speaker 3: quote unquote, let leave she could. 1110 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,960 Speaker 2: This makes it a lot more plausible that Mindy was. 1111 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 1: I can we take a like a hot sec right 1112 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,720 Speaker 1: here and talk about like marriage and breaks and stuff 1113 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 1: to do it. I don't know if I actually necessarily 1114 00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,319 Speaker 1: see wanting to take a break for a little bit 1115 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:59,320 Speaker 1: before getting marriage as necessarily a huge red flag in 1116 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,399 Speaker 1: a relationship, especially if you're not like cooking up with people. 1117 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,560 Speaker 1: I could see like just a time of I don't know, 1118 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,480 Speaker 1: meditation to think about. Am I am I truly ready 1119 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,480 Speaker 1: to commit the rest of my life to this person 1120 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:14,480 Speaker 1: and like really take it seriously and like one of 1121 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 1: my I have a friend that took a break. He 1122 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,120 Speaker 1: was dating this his current girlfriend for a couple of 1123 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:24,920 Speaker 1: years and before they like they really were like getting 1124 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,879 Speaker 1: serious and basically planning their life together. It's like, hey, 1125 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,480 Speaker 1: like I need to take a break to like make 1126 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,359 Speaker 1: sure that this is the right thing, and then I'm 1127 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,480 Speaker 1: ready to commit. And he did, and now they're very 1128 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,360 Speaker 1: happily in a relationship and like planning kids and planning 1129 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:41,160 Speaker 1: marriage and so like I do, I do see that 1130 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 1: as potentially helpful to a very very long term marriage. 1131 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 1: But I could also see sometimes as a red flag. 1132 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,440 Speaker 1: I would love to know what you guys think in 1133 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:51,200 Speaker 1: the chap but I don't know. 1134 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,000 Speaker 3: What do you think, John, I've seen I have a 1135 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 3: story of the exact opposite, which was a little bit 1136 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,439 Speaker 3: more extreme, and this man, he was a wild boy, 1137 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 3: but he planned to get married to this person and 1138 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:06,799 Speaker 3: basically they had a year of just going bananas and 1139 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 3: then you're supposed to come together at the end of 1140 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:09,879 Speaker 3: the year, like just. 1141 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,720 Speaker 1: Like hooking up with a bunch of random people. 1142 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,600 Speaker 2: I think just kind of like can do you can 1143 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,879 Speaker 2: do what you want? Right? 1144 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,600 Speaker 1: Was the garden and it imploded the relationship? 1145 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,600 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, definitely, dude. 1146 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd imagine it doesn't always work. 1147 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:27,479 Speaker 2: Yes, it doesn't always work, But. 1148 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 1: Did it work in this scenario. 1149 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:33,920 Speaker 3: We're about to find out so she said that she 1150 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,879 Speaker 3: wanted to live alone for a month to make sure 1151 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,200 Speaker 3: that she wanted to marry me. I was completely heartbroken. 1152 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,640 Speaker 3: I asked her if she wanted to pursue someone else. 1153 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,439 Speaker 3: She told me that that was not the case. 1154 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 1: Okay, that's good, and. 1155 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 3: I better not do anything stupid either. She loves me 1156 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,280 Speaker 3: with all of her heart, but she says she wants 1157 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,759 Speaker 3: to stay away from me to make sure that she's 1158 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,520 Speaker 3: marrying me for love and not because she is used 1159 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,279 Speaker 3: to being me. I did not understand that at all. 1160 00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,000 Speaker 1: I think that's a good. It's like, I want to 1161 00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,040 Speaker 1: marry you not because I'm dependent on you, but because 1162 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:08,880 Speaker 1: I love you. 1163 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, the reasoning is is good. I would say. Yeah. 1164 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,000 Speaker 2: I told her that if she was not sure after 1165 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,560 Speaker 2: four years, if she wants to marry me, then maybe 1166 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:17,879 Speaker 2: we should just break up. 1167 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,480 Speaker 1: Joanna says lies. Joanna doesn't believe it. 1168 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,760 Speaker 2: Doesn't believe it. Yeah, doesn't believe it. Real quick. 1169 00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,759 Speaker 3: This is a quick tinfoil conspiracy, very quick, very quick. 1170 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:32,160 Speaker 3: Everyone in the comments, do they break up or stay together? 1171 00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 3: Do they break up or stay together? Riley, get get 1172 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:36,560 Speaker 3: your get your face. 1173 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,400 Speaker 1: On the Okay, do you have conspiracy comments? 1174 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,600 Speaker 2: The conspiracy is the question do they break up or 1175 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:43,120 Speaker 2: stay together? 1176 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:50,160 Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like Mindy is the wild card, 1177 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:51,960 Speaker 1: So I feel like they might break up because of 1178 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 1: some ship. Mindy says Mmm. 1179 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,520 Speaker 2: Riley producer Riley Big Protein. 1180 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 5: I think that they they I think they break up 1181 00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,920 Speaker 5: for sure. Yeah, yeah, I'm with Sam on this one. 1182 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:04,319 Speaker 1: What do you think? John? 1183 00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,080 Speaker 2: Let's see I already read it. 1184 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,680 Speaker 1: A lot of people are saying breakup. Let's yeah, break up, 1185 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 1: break up. Nichol says stay together, La and says breakup. 1186 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:16,520 Speaker 1: Let's see who's right. 1187 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,680 Speaker 2: All right, let's take off that, go back to reality. 1188 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:23,200 Speaker 2: Back to reality. Are we ready? We had a big 1189 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,440 Speaker 2: fight and broke. 1190 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 1: Up a few days after this seriously. 1191 00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 2: Done dune Dune, they broke up already. They broke up already. 1192 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,560 Speaker 1: I wonder what the reasons were for breaking up. 1193 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:39,880 Speaker 2: That's a good question. Maybe what they just said. But 1194 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,080 Speaker 2: also there is more. 1195 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,959 Speaker 3: As our lease was ending, we decided to part ways 1196 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,520 Speaker 3: in December. She got a new apartment and our and 1197 00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 3: I kept our old apartment and just took her name 1198 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,920 Speaker 3: off the lease. After the breakup, I was feeling very lonely, 1199 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 3: as I was not used to being in the apartment alone. 1200 00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:01,440 Speaker 1: Mindy, big old bo He's coming through. 1201 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:02,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, girl. 1202 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,360 Speaker 3: I didn't want to keep on being sad, and hence 1203 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,120 Speaker 3: invited a bunch of friends for a New Year's party. 1204 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,640 Speaker 1: And Mindy was one of the friends. 1205 00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,920 Speaker 2: I also invited. Mindy. 1206 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,920 Speaker 1: Bro, they're hooking up, but I see you in the 1207 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,520 Speaker 1: chat if you think they're gonna hook up. 1208 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 3: We had a good time and my friends were doing 1209 00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:27,360 Speaker 3: their best to cheer me up. Mindy also mingled with 1210 00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,720 Speaker 3: my friends and it was all good. Mindy decided to 1211 00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:35,040 Speaker 3: stay back and help me clean up, and we hooked 1212 00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 3: up that night. 1213 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 1: Bro, that's a classic move. Yeah let me help, and 1214 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:39,520 Speaker 1: saying thing. 1215 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:43,280 Speaker 2: That, oh oh, let me just bend over and just right. 1216 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:48,320 Speaker 1: You're laughing too hard at the man who look at 1217 00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:51,560 Speaker 1: that boo? Oh yeah, can you get down a little 1218 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:58,080 Speaker 1: a little further shut? That day has never happened in 1219 00:58:58,120 --> 00:58:58,479 Speaker 1: this house. 1220 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:02,440 Speaker 5: Wait wait, wait, wait wait wait wait? How late were 1221 00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,240 Speaker 5: you up New Year's Eve? 1222 00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,640 Speaker 2: Me? Yeah you, oh yeah, that's true. 1223 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,240 Speaker 5: New Year's Day. You were sleeping the whole day because. 1224 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 1: You were like, I was late. I was up very late. 1225 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,880 Speaker 1: I was up until like five six am. 1226 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:15,080 Speaker 2: What were you doing? 1227 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 1: I was watching Big Lebowski. There's nothing to see here, 1228 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:18,400 Speaker 1: guys watching? 1229 00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:27,000 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, that's okay, Okay, So back to the story. 1230 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:32,000 Speaker 2: Should we do m finding the story and where we 1231 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:36,320 Speaker 2: left off? Boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo 1232 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:48,280 Speaker 2: boo what they don't due du do doing? Yes? 1233 00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:53,120 Speaker 3: Sorry, no, it's perfect. I felt guilty, but Mindy did 1234 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,680 Speaker 3: cheer me up. You don't say, dude, I am say. 1235 00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 3: Since then, we have hung out almost daily at my place. 1236 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,640 Speaker 3: I am still sad about Julie, but I won't lie 1237 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,880 Speaker 3: that being with Mindy does make me feel happy. 1238 01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,000 Speaker 2: She is sweet and caring. Bro. 1239 01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:15,400 Speaker 1: Mindy has been planting the seeds this whole time. This 1240 01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,000 Speaker 1: is all part of her master plan. 1241 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,040 Speaker 2: Should Op take the rebound right now? Yes? Or no? 1242 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:20,880 Speaker 2: In the comments? 1243 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,520 Speaker 1: And what do you mean taking the rebound? 1244 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 2: Idribbling? Should he should? He like like? This is nah? 1245 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think it's way too I mean, 1246 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:36,520 Speaker 1: but art isn't Mindy and Julie they're friends. They're co workers, okay, 1247 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:41,040 Speaker 1: and friends, I guess they're that's not a friend thing. 1248 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,200 Speaker 2: They were friends, but not anymore. 1249 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:49,480 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, don't date your ex's friends. Yeah, especially so soon, 1250 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:50,800 Speaker 1: like so soon. 1251 01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:51,840 Speaker 2: So soon, it's crazy. 1252 01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,920 Speaker 3: Last Sunday, we woke up and someone was banging at. 1253 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,800 Speaker 1: The door and it was me and Mindy a. 1254 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:06,200 Speaker 2: On the door. I went to open it and it 1255 01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:07,120 Speaker 2: was Julie. 1256 01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:09,680 Speaker 1: Was Mindy there when he opened it? 1257 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:13,480 Speaker 2: No, they're laying in bed together. And Julie came and 1258 01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:14,240 Speaker 2: knocked on the door. 1259 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:18,200 Speaker 1: Okay, but she she Julie hasn't seen Mindy yet, not. 1260 01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 3: Not yet, not yet unless unless he got a studio, 1261 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:25,360 Speaker 3: so we assume not yet. She looked furious and started 1262 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,400 Speaker 3: yelling at me. She kept accusing me of cheating on her. 1263 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,360 Speaker 3: I told her I most certainly did not cheat on her, 1264 01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:33,240 Speaker 3: and she was the one who broke up with me. 1265 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:40,080 Speaker 3: Mindy again was also at my apartment. Julie was just 1266 01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,000 Speaker 3: angry at the both of us. She started calling Mindy 1267 01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:44,560 Speaker 3: a manipulative She. 1268 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:46,919 Speaker 2: Been there, she sees her there. 1269 01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:51,120 Speaker 3: My goodness that she started calling Mindy a manipulative b 1270 01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,640 Speaker 3: and told me that Mindy was the one who suggested 1271 01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,400 Speaker 3: to her that we should take some time away for 1272 01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:58,720 Speaker 3: me to understand her. 1273 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,000 Speaker 1: Mindy is playing both sides. She just wanted Oh p 1274 01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:07,080 Speaker 1: oh Pi is a snack dude. And everyone wants to bite. 1275 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:08,160 Speaker 1: Everyone's a little munch. 1276 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:09,360 Speaker 2: Is Mindy a snake? 1277 01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,760 Speaker 1: Put snake in the chat? If you think Mindy a snake, 1278 01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:17,960 Speaker 1: that's right, a little slither right, little slitherery slitherer. I 1279 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,800 Speaker 1: calmed her down and asked her to explain herself. She 1280 01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,840 Speaker 1: told me that ever since our marriage talk, she told 1281 01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,160 Speaker 1: Mindy about it, and Mindy kept on asking Julie if 1282 01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:30,720 Speaker 1: she was sure about marrying me. Mindy suggested that she 1283 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,920 Speaker 1: take mandy suggestions that she takes some time to herself 1284 01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:38,920 Speaker 1: to understand her true feelings. Oh my, this is the 1285 01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,880 Speaker 1: most manipulative ship that I have ever heard. 1286 01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:43,440 Speaker 2: This is insane. 1287 01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,400 Speaker 1: People exist like this, that's they do. 1288 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:46,960 Speaker 2: Sad, they absolutely do. 1289 01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,000 Speaker 1: Does anyone know of Mindy in their life? And like, 1290 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,760 Speaker 1: please write a story? Well maybe we can read a 1291 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,200 Speaker 1: couple from you guys after this story in. 1292 01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:58,320 Speaker 2: The chat to the snake was in the grass. 1293 01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,880 Speaker 1: Now it's right on the sidewalk, and y'all, OPI needs 1294 01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:02,640 Speaker 1: a step on that shit. 1295 01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,200 Speaker 3: I will understand and let me run it back a 1296 01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,440 Speaker 3: little bit. Mindy suggested that she take some time to 1297 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,480 Speaker 3: herself to understand the drew feelings, and that I would 1298 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,520 Speaker 3: understand and give her the space. When I said no, 1299 01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,760 Speaker 3: Mindy convinced her that I was so controlling that I 1300 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,400 Speaker 3: could not even give her one month to herself, and 1301 01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,280 Speaker 3: convinced her to break up with Mick. 1302 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,920 Speaker 2: Wow, Yep, yep. 1303 01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,360 Speaker 3: Mindy told me that she did not say any such 1304 01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,440 Speaker 3: things and these were all Julie's ideas. 1305 01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,560 Speaker 2: And she was just there during these conversations. 1306 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,640 Speaker 1: This is totally a Jesse two point zero Jesse from 1307 01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:39,320 Speaker 1: the first story. 1308 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, is the Jesse here. 1309 01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:43,240 Speaker 1: Mindy is a Jesse. 1310 01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:44,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1311 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,960 Speaker 3: She did tell Julie that she was about to take 1312 01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:48,840 Speaker 3: some of the things so that I could get a 1313 01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,919 Speaker 3: chance to make things right with her over the last 1314 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:52,560 Speaker 3: few months. 1315 01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:56,360 Speaker 2: That made Julie more angry, and she started accusing me 1316 01:03:56,440 --> 01:04:00,520 Speaker 2: of emotionally cheating on her Julie Tool. Julie told me 1317 01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 2: that the last few weeks have made her realize that 1318 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,680 Speaker 2: we were meant to be together, but she now cannot 1319 01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,760 Speaker 2: believe I would move on from a four year relationship 1320 01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:10,640 Speaker 2: in one week. 1321 01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:15,520 Speaker 1: Ah, that is that is brutal. But you guys did 1322 01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,160 Speaker 1: break up. She can't be mad. They did break up. 1323 01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,760 Speaker 1: You did break up. I don't think the relationship contract 1324 01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,480 Speaker 1: the relationship contract ends when you break up. 1325 01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,640 Speaker 3: I mean, imagine you have a four or even let's 1326 01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,560 Speaker 3: say a three year relationship and then you do a 1327 01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,920 Speaker 3: rebound like imagine a again, even a three year relationship 1328 01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,480 Speaker 3: and you do that. Just imagine that everybody like a 1329 01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:42,640 Speaker 3: two year relationship. Oh oh. On one hand, I want 1330 01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:45,160 Speaker 3: to believe Julie, but she broke up with me for 1331 01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:48,400 Speaker 3: no fault of my own. Mindy was there for me 1332 01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,280 Speaker 3: when I was down, but now I also doubt her. 1333 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,360 Speaker 1: Dude, doubt her so much? 1334 01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:55,880 Speaker 2: Get away from me. 1335 01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:00,000 Speaker 3: She suddenly started talking to me out of the blue, 1336 01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,480 Speaker 3: as we were never really that close before, and immediately 1337 01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,880 Speaker 3: became my support after the breakup, although Julie was her 1338 01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:10,960 Speaker 3: close friend. Am I the a hole to emotionally cheat 1339 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,280 Speaker 3: on Julie? Should I have told her. 1340 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,440 Speaker 2: About Mindy's texts? Should I have. 1341 01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,600 Speaker 3: Not moved on from her so quickly? Even though Julie 1342 01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,600 Speaker 3: broke up with me, I was just hurting and Mindy 1343 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,640 Speaker 3: was right there to support me. I need advice from 1344 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:28,360 Speaker 3: someone with a clear mind on knowing what the f. 1345 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,720 Speaker 2: Is going on? And ladies and gentlemen watching right now. 1346 01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,480 Speaker 2: We have relevant comments, We have updates, We have comments 1347 01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,000 Speaker 2: from you right now, but we have to stop and 1348 01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:39,680 Speaker 2: break this down. 1349 01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:44,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, uh, I'm a little confused on the 1350 01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:45,800 Speaker 1: emotional cheating side. 1351 01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:47,200 Speaker 2: I think because so Mindy. 1352 01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:53,080 Speaker 3: So before the actual official breakup, Mindy was getting closer 1353 01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,120 Speaker 3: with Op. 1354 01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,200 Speaker 1: But it sounds like it was in the context of 1355 01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:01,720 Speaker 1: helping Ope through the relationship with Julie. 1356 01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:07,000 Speaker 3: Yes, and so basically that I think, Yeah, is was 1357 01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:10,640 Speaker 3: it emotional cheating that OPI kind of accepted the help 1358 01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:14,200 Speaker 3: and became more quote unquote emotionally close with Mindy, not 1359 01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,000 Speaker 3: that he was like I don't. 1360 01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:17,840 Speaker 1: I don't. I would love to know what y'all think 1361 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,479 Speaker 1: if you think it's emotional cheating or not, but I don't. 1362 01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,840 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I don't think that's emotional cheating. 1363 01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,840 Speaker 3: I definitely think it is a grey area, And it 1364 01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:30,680 Speaker 3: truly depends on what are these conversations and interactions. 1365 01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,520 Speaker 1: Like, because but like what it seems like it was 1366 01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,320 Speaker 1: is like, hey, like things are hard with Julie. And 1367 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:38,160 Speaker 1: then like what it seemed like the initial conversations where 1368 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,120 Speaker 1: it's like Mindy's giving just terrible advice, but like Op 1369 01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,920 Speaker 1: is talking to Mindy to try to work on things 1370 01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,600 Speaker 1: with Julie. Yeah, you know, because like Mindy's like, she's 1371 01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:50,600 Speaker 1: gonna break up with you, and and and OPI is like, 1372 01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,160 Speaker 1: oh shit, I need to step up my game. I 1373 01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,040 Speaker 1: need to make sure that I'm like there for her 1374 01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,080 Speaker 1: even more. And so he's not taking what Mindy is 1375 01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:00,000 Speaker 1: saying to distance himself from Julie. He's taking what Mindy's 1376 01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,920 Speaker 1: saying to make sure he's closer. And so for that reason, 1377 01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,800 Speaker 1: I don't really think he is going into it with 1378 01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:10,400 Speaker 1: the idea of like, uh or even even like subconsciously 1379 01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,360 Speaker 1: emotionally cheating. That doesn't seem like what's happening here. 1380 01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:13,680 Speaker 2: It does. 1381 01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:15,880 Speaker 3: It did have the purists of intentions, and I can't 1382 01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:19,600 Speaker 3: I mean to I think it was after that it 1383 01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:23,360 Speaker 3: really ramped up in Mindy, which probably was completely Mindy's intention. 1384 01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, was like all all, all, just get. 1385 01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:29,280 Speaker 3: In there as like a supportive friend and then I'll 1386 01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:30,160 Speaker 3: crank it up. 1387 01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, Like Mindy is a terrible person. Mindy, Mindy 1388 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,240 Speaker 1: has been planning this from the the I think there's 1389 01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,320 Speaker 1: ope is like a little naive, maybe a little stupid. 1390 01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:44,280 Speaker 1: But the second question is Mindy or is hooking up 1391 01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:48,360 Speaker 1: with Mindy after Julie breaks up with op a not 1392 01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:49,400 Speaker 1: cash money move. 1393 01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:54,800 Speaker 3: Not a great move. But I mean Op is like 1394 01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:58,400 Speaker 3: very heartbroken. I will I will give him some like leniency, 1395 01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:00,800 Speaker 3: but like not not the best. 1396 01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:02,920 Speaker 1: I think what's us is it's not I don't think 1397 01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:07,040 Speaker 1: it's necessarily bad that he hooked up with someone after 1398 01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,360 Speaker 1: uh breaking up, Like people do that all the time. 1399 01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:12,640 Speaker 1: I think what's bad is he hooked up with a 1400 01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:16,040 Speaker 1: close friend. Yeah, I think that's a little of us. Yes, 1401 01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,200 Speaker 1: that's like I don't I don't think that's a good 1402 01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,000 Speaker 1: Like I think you could hook up with someone who 1403 01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:21,720 Speaker 1: was in like the general friend group, but if it's 1404 01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:23,559 Speaker 1: a close friend and they've hung out one on one, 1405 01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:24,680 Speaker 1: I don't think that's a good one. 1406 01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:28,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, and just generally yeah, it's it's given, given, given 1407 01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,280 Speaker 3: yourself some time is good. 1408 01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,360 Speaker 1: But but I wait, should we read some of the 1409 01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,639 Speaker 1: comments before we dive into the to the update. 1410 01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:39,639 Speaker 3: Let's do it? Maybe Katie say again, Katie Lynn, Katie Lynn, Uh, 1411 01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,479 Speaker 3: I don't think it's emotional cheating. But this couldn't have 1412 01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:46,720 Speaker 3: happened if they spoke, if they uh, this couldn't have 1413 01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:50,240 Speaker 3: happened if they spoke to themselves, or if OP asked 1414 01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:54,599 Speaker 3: Mindy said x Y z Is this true. He also 1415 01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:57,360 Speaker 3: didn't seem to have thought about the feelings for Mindy 1416 01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:01,400 Speaker 3: until after Julie and him broke up. Seemed seemed that 1417 01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:05,080 Speaker 3: he knew he it was convenient and that Mindy cared 1418 01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,760 Speaker 3: about him, while OPI was happy to take the opportunity 1419 01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,559 Speaker 3: that Mindy created by being too faced. 1420 01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with some of that. I think I 1421 01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,519 Speaker 1: agree with some of that. And then A says if 1422 01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:18,640 Speaker 1: OPI and Julie were secure in the relationship, none of 1423 01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,680 Speaker 1: that would have happened. They both kept Mindy's talks to 1424 01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:25,040 Speaker 1: themselves instead of confronting the issue. That's kind of what 1425 01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,840 Speaker 1: the other person was saying. I agree with that. If 1426 01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:30,880 Speaker 1: they just had communicated with about what Mindy was saying, 1427 01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:32,640 Speaker 1: it would have been fine. But I think they were 1428 01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:33,720 Speaker 1: too scared to communicate. 1429 01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:37,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do not. Yeah, yeah, this is This is 1430 01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,240 Speaker 3: a tricky one, y'all. This is a tricky one. 1431 01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:42,800 Speaker 1: But John, do you have an update for me? 1432 01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,080 Speaker 3: We have should we should? We have some relevant comments? 1433 01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:46,880 Speaker 3: Relevant update? 1434 01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:48,479 Speaker 2: Good? Let's do the relevant comments. 1435 01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:52,120 Speaker 3: So br Socks two four four five says, sounds like 1436 01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,720 Speaker 3: you and Julie need to talk privately and discuss what 1437 01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,240 Speaker 3: Mindy said to each of you. That is a great idea. 1438 01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,519 Speaker 3: Get get you know, get the story straight. Let's interrogate 1439 01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,200 Speaker 3: this bad boy. As others have said, this sounds all 1440 01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,240 Speaker 3: too convenient. Mindy was in both of your ears, telling 1441 01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:08,040 Speaker 3: you both what she wanted you to hear to orchestrate 1442 01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,880 Speaker 3: this whole thing. Please reach out to Julie and ask 1443 01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,400 Speaker 3: her to talk to you alone. Even if both of 1444 01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:15,680 Speaker 3: you don't get back together. I'm sure you both care 1445 01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,120 Speaker 3: for each other deeply, and she would want you to 1446 01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,479 Speaker 3: be with someone who cares about you and won't manipulate you. 1447 01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Mindy is a manipulator. You should not stay with 1448 01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:25,840 Speaker 1: Mindy for sure. 1449 01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:30,400 Speaker 3: Her manipulation of you is more direct. But Julie is 1450 01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:34,920 Speaker 3: the victim as well. OPI, you are right, if Julie, 1451 01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:38,000 Speaker 3: If Julie is right, I just threw a four year 1452 01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:43,040 Speaker 3: relationship under the bus in just two weeks. Artistic Asparagus 1453 01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:45,160 Speaker 3: one seventy five says, so, what's the reason for you 1454 01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,759 Speaker 3: sleeping with your ex's good friend weeks after the breakup. 1455 01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:52,160 Speaker 3: It's understandable you wanted to move on, but why her specifically? 1456 01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,639 Speaker 3: Opie says, I wasn't planning on it. 1457 01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:59,400 Speaker 1: Convenient convenient, but she just stayed back after the party 1458 01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:00,599 Speaker 1: and think happened. 1459 01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:05,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Did I feel guilty after that? Absolutely? Not just kidding. 1460 01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:08,720 Speaker 3: Yes, I did feel guilty. I felt discarded and unwanted 1461 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:12,400 Speaker 3: after a four year relationship and was just not thinking straight. 1462 01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:15,400 Speaker 3: So you know, there's some more context. Yeah, I think, 1463 01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:19,680 Speaker 3: I think again. You know, Mindy was manipulating and was 1464 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,840 Speaker 3: very intentional with all this stuff and catching op at 1465 01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,280 Speaker 3: the worst possible moment. 1466 01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:29,120 Speaker 1: Literally creating the worst possible creating it. I think massive 1467 01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,640 Speaker 1: red flags all ends, and Lily says, why do you 1468 01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,759 Speaker 1: not ship merch Island? We actually just updated our merch 1469 01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:37,840 Speaker 1: link so we should be able to ship everywhere. So 1470 01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:38,599 Speaker 1: check that again. 1471 01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:41,160 Speaker 2: Very nice. It's in the description right now. 1472 01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you want to support the show, check out 1473 01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:45,479 Speaker 1: the merch. We're wearing it right now. 1474 01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,040 Speaker 2: Red flag versus green flag, pick what you want. 1475 01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:51,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's little hats too, that's right, but that is 1476 01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:52,479 Speaker 1: there an update. 1477 01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:54,439 Speaker 3: Those are the relevant comments, and now we have the 1478 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:59,840 Speaker 3: big Juicy update. Juicy I twenty eight mail posts of 1479 01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,839 Speaker 3: last week regarding my girlfriend Julie twenty nine female, accusing 1480 01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:06,600 Speaker 3: your friend Mindy sabotaging the relationship Julie broke up with 1481 01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,840 Speaker 3: me in December after a four year relationship, and Mindy 1482 01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:10,839 Speaker 3: reached out to me when I was feeling down. However, 1483 01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,880 Speaker 3: when Julie realized when Mindy was talking to me, she 1484 01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,080 Speaker 3: confronted both of us on Saturday Sunday morning and told 1485 01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,559 Speaker 3: me that Mindy manipulated her into breaking up with me. 1486 01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,360 Speaker 3: The worst part, I wasn't thinking straight after the breakup. 1487 01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,000 Speaker 3: It ended up hooking up with Mindy at a New 1488 01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,519 Speaker 3: Year's Eve party. After the incident, I asked Mindy that 1489 01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:26,160 Speaker 3: I needed. 1490 01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:27,640 Speaker 2: Some time and did not want to meet her. 1491 01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:31,799 Speaker 3: Since the following post on Reddit had three thousand people call. 1492 01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:34,439 Speaker 1: Me an idiot, and now you have more in the 1493 01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:37,080 Speaker 1: chat You're an idiot. Please do not see Middy. 1494 01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:42,400 Speaker 3: Indeed indeed so, I messaged Julie every day since then 1495 01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:44,800 Speaker 3: to try to talk to her. She did not reply 1496 01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,160 Speaker 3: to my messages. I was not sure if she had 1497 01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:51,000 Speaker 3: blocked me. Mindy was constantly trying to message me, asking 1498 01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:52,439 Speaker 3: if we could meet up and talk about it. 1499 01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:56,160 Speaker 1: I wrote you for a year. I'm just quoting the notebook. 1500 01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:57,400 Speaker 1: We watched it recently. 1501 01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:02,120 Speaker 3: On Wednesday, one day after posting, I decided to message Mindy, 1502 01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,479 Speaker 3: I told her to tell me everything she said to 1503 01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:10,040 Speaker 3: Julie truthfully. I told her I would go no contact 1504 01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:12,800 Speaker 3: if I found out that she had been lying, which 1505 01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:16,439 Speaker 3: Mindy knows. It's like, hey, if if she was actually lying, 1506 01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:18,800 Speaker 3: they would share what each other said and they would 1507 01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:19,280 Speaker 3: figure it out. 1508 01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,559 Speaker 2: OPI and Julie would be able to figure it out. 1509 01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:25,000 Speaker 1: But Julie isn't talking to op Mindy, we don't know 1510 01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:28,280 Speaker 1: if that maybe she does anything. 1511 01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,679 Speaker 2: This is a this is a crazy game of chicken 1512 01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:31,040 Speaker 2: right now. 1513 01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:34,759 Speaker 1: But why why why? Dude, Like, go no contact now? 1514 01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:38,479 Speaker 1: You have enough information this moment to go no contact. Like, 1515 01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:40,760 Speaker 1: why would you have a person like this in your life? 1516 01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:44,760 Speaker 1: She is manipulative, She is super toxic and just like 1517 01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:45,639 Speaker 1: wants drama. 1518 01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:47,640 Speaker 2: OPI doesn't know if he believes it yet or not. 1519 01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:49,800 Speaker 2: That's why. That's why I mean, I feel like I 1520 01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:50,639 Speaker 2: would believe it. 1521 01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:54,000 Speaker 1: Oh he'd but but dude, you know she you know, 1522 01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:55,400 Speaker 1: she was talking in your ear. 1523 01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:59,640 Speaker 2: But he's still like, was she telling the truth the 1524 01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:01,559 Speaker 2: whole time? I'm where she wasn't? 1525 01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,520 Speaker 3: She was talking to both of them, but wasn't planting 1526 01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:07,320 Speaker 3: the stuff for Julie that's the question. 1527 01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:10,679 Speaker 1: But she was regardless. She was revealing things that Julie 1528 01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:14,120 Speaker 1: probably want kept secret to Ope exactly. And that's a 1529 01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:17,040 Speaker 1: red flag because if you're revealing other people's secrets, you're 1530 01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:20,040 Speaker 1: probably revealing the secrets that you have between you and 1531 01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:20,439 Speaker 1: that person. 1532 01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:22,719 Speaker 3: You and me are on the same page. But Opie's 1533 01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:28,720 Speaker 3: getting that Mindy pom pom right now. That's not too sad, exactly. 1534 01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:33,360 Speaker 3: So Mindy wanted to meet me in person or talk 1535 01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:36,439 Speaker 3: to me on the phone, but I wanted everything in writing. 1536 01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:38,479 Speaker 2: That's smart. That's a good move. 1537 01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:42,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, So like she couldn't like reprogram his head on 1538 01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:44,800 Speaker 1: the back end and make the things. Oh I didn't 1539 01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:49,040 Speaker 1: say that, Yeah, great, great receipts. Receipts. 1540 01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:49,439 Speaker 2: Yep. 1541 01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:53,320 Speaker 3: She messaged me that Julia always said good things about 1542 01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:56,160 Speaker 3: me all of these years. When Julie told her about 1543 01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,680 Speaker 3: us talking and getting married in twenty twenty four, she 1544 01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:04,240 Speaker 3: was happy for the both of us. Yes, However, wise, however, 1545 01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:07,640 Speaker 3: Julie started telling her that she had cold feet and 1546 01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:09,679 Speaker 3: was not sure if we wanted to marry me because 1547 01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:12,599 Speaker 3: of issues she observed about her parents' marriage. 1548 01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:14,040 Speaker 2: Very convenient. 1549 01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,400 Speaker 3: One day, Julie told me that she wanted to take 1550 01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:20,000 Speaker 3: a break from me. She was not too sure about 1551 01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:20,800 Speaker 3: her feelings for me. 1552 01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:26,200 Speaker 2: That was this time. That was the time that Mindy 1553 01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:26,720 Speaker 2: told me. 1554 01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,840 Speaker 3: About Julie's behavior as she felt bad for me as 1555 01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:33,040 Speaker 3: we were already telling our families about the engagement plans. 1556 01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:36,200 Speaker 3: After our fight, she said that she said that Julie 1557 01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:39,519 Speaker 3: was extremely upset and told Mindy that she would never 1558 01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:40,080 Speaker 3: marry me. 1559 01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:45,040 Speaker 2: She's literally doing it again. She's literally doing it again. 1560 01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:49,439 Speaker 1: Dude, I think this was all little size, but Surest, 1561 01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,599 Speaker 1: why are you trusting her? This is silly. 1562 01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:56,439 Speaker 3: She said that the only reason Julie came back was 1563 01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,160 Speaker 3: when she heard that I was moving on, as she 1564 01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:06,479 Speaker 3: is jealous of us pro She She also said that 1565 01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:09,280 Speaker 3: I was a good guy and hopefully I see that 1566 01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:10,160 Speaker 3: what we have. 1567 01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:18,240 Speaker 2: Is something special. What do we think? What do we think? 1568 01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:18,519 Speaker 1: Chat? 1569 01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:19,639 Speaker 2: What do we think? 1570 01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:27,000 Speaker 1: I'm pissed? Yeah, I'm pissed. Yeah. Brizzle Manizzle says supersis Supersauce. 1571 01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:31,440 Speaker 1: Let's see Car says I don't know if a rebound 1572 01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:35,600 Speaker 1: is moving on? But go Off says burning rows a 1573 01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:41,000 Speaker 1: bunch of red flags. A Meredith b s yeah, I agree. 1574 01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:45,600 Speaker 1: Rose Osmond says red flag. Mindy Leavester says, heck no, 1575 01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:49,639 Speaker 1: Kimberly fine, people like Mindy will ghosts both pretend nothing 1576 01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:51,680 Speaker 1: happened and find a whole new friend group before they 1577 01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:56,840 Speaker 1: face any real life consequences for their actions. Yeah, totally agree. 1578 01:16:56,880 --> 01:17:00,000 Speaker 1: Mindy is not many's not even person. 1579 01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:00,639 Speaker 2: No. 1580 01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,880 Speaker 3: No, I think she's a total snake and Mike mind 1581 01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:09,120 Speaker 3: bogglingly using this opportunity to do more lies to wedge 1582 01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:10,880 Speaker 3: them in between like that, but do we know? 1583 01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,439 Speaker 1: I mean, like, how is Opie. I don't even know 1584 01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:15,640 Speaker 1: why he's listening, but like, how is Opie supposed to 1585 01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:17,280 Speaker 1: assess it out? Because he's here to talk to Julie 1586 01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:18,479 Speaker 1: and see if the story's line up. 1587 01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:22,080 Speaker 2: He's trying to Julie isn't responding. 1588 01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,439 Speaker 1: But can you please tell me there's a big, fat, juicy, 1589 01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:28,320 Speaker 1: thick update where Julie responds, and we could put Mindy 1590 01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:31,599 Speaker 1: to rest and cast her out into the open ocean, 1591 01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,080 Speaker 1: hoping she trowns it gets fed on by live sharks. 1592 01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:36,360 Speaker 2: There's definitely more. So. 1593 01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,360 Speaker 3: After Mindy said that you know we have something special, 1594 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:43,320 Speaker 3: Opie responds, I just said okay, and I told her 1595 01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:46,479 Speaker 3: that I needed time. I kept on messaging Julie once 1596 01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:49,559 Speaker 3: a day to at least talk to her once. It 1597 01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:51,800 Speaker 3: was heartbreaking to think that she might have blocked me 1598 01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:53,759 Speaker 3: and may never talk to me again. 1599 01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,360 Speaker 1: Are your text green well? 1600 01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:03,800 Speaker 2: On Friday afternoon, Julie finally replied, Okay, that's good. She 1601 01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:06,960 Speaker 2: said she wanted to meet me and told me and 1602 01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:08,840 Speaker 2: told me that she would come to our apartment on 1603 01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:10,040 Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon. 1604 01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:11,679 Speaker 1: Okay, this is something, This is movement. 1605 01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:14,880 Speaker 3: I cleaned up the place. Hey, buddy, cleaning got you 1606 01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:16,040 Speaker 3: in this mess in the first place. 1607 01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:19,760 Speaker 1: To be careful, be careful. Mindy helped me. She stayed. 1608 01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:24,519 Speaker 3: And I was just feeling deep guilt from the inside 1609 01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:27,080 Speaker 3: before facing her. When she came in, she looked like 1610 01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:31,120 Speaker 3: a shell of herself and completely broken. I sat on 1611 01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:33,400 Speaker 3: her sofa, but she chose to sit away from me. 1612 01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:36,920 Speaker 3: We asked how each other were, but it was clear 1613 01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:40,920 Speaker 3: that neither of us were doing well. I started apologizing, 1614 01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,679 Speaker 3: but she stopped me. She asked to let her finish 1615 01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:45,920 Speaker 3: and to not interrupt her. She had brought her a 1616 01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:48,320 Speaker 3: little notebook and had written down things that she had 1617 01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:50,720 Speaker 3: wanted to say to me. She told me that she 1618 01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,040 Speaker 3: truly loved me, but after we discussed getting married, she 1619 01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:56,439 Speaker 3: started feeling scared of the next big step. 1620 01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:58,040 Speaker 2: She thought it was normal. 1621 01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:03,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, she thought those feelings were normal and would go away, 1622 01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:07,120 Speaker 3: So she decided not to discuss her concerns with me. 1623 01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:10,439 Speaker 3: It kept on eating at her from the inside, and 1624 01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:13,439 Speaker 3: she made a mistake to talk to Mindy about them. 1625 01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,400 Speaker 3: She said that she wanted to. She said that she 1626 01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:19,320 Speaker 3: wanted to say everything to me now, so I don't 1627 01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:22,679 Speaker 3: get secondhand information about why she was distant and broke 1628 01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,280 Speaker 3: up with me. She said that her parents had a 1629 01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:28,840 Speaker 3: very rocky marriage, though they were together until her mom 1630 01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:32,000 Speaker 3: passed away in twenty twenty one during the pandemic. Her 1631 01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:35,320 Speaker 3: parents argued constantly, and she always thought her mom did 1632 01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:39,280 Speaker 3: not love her dad. However, her mom was extremely dependent 1633 01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:42,680 Speaker 3: on him for everything, and her dad knew it and hence. 1634 01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:46,240 Speaker 2: He did not treat her well. She never wanted to 1635 01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:49,720 Speaker 2: be like her mom after seeing their marriage. However, as 1636 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,879 Speaker 2: we lived together, she started seeing some of those issues 1637 01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:56,479 Speaker 2: in our relationship. For example, when we met, Julie had 1638 01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:58,639 Speaker 2: a lot of credit card debt and was bad at 1639 01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:00,640 Speaker 2: managing her money. Helped her with that. 1640 01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:04,040 Speaker 3: Even though we have separate finances, I ended up managing 1641 01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:07,839 Speaker 3: all of her finances, investments, et cetera at her request, 1642 01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:10,920 Speaker 3: to the point that she did not know or understand 1643 01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:16,920 Speaker 3: exactly where her money was. Real quick, is that a 1644 01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:17,760 Speaker 3: red flag? 1645 01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,920 Speaker 1: Is that Julie doesn't know where her money was because 1646 01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:22,320 Speaker 1: OP is managing all of it. 1647 01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:26,160 Speaker 2: OP came in at her request. 1648 01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:28,960 Speaker 3: OP came to help her manage her finances, but managed 1649 01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,760 Speaker 3: to finances to a point where Julie did not know 1650 01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:32,599 Speaker 3: what was going on. 1651 01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:38,800 Speaker 1: Hmmm, is that a red flag? I mean, it's definitely 1652 01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:42,120 Speaker 1: not like you should have an understanding of your finances. 1653 01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,599 Speaker 1: But like we were, this is not a good example, 1654 01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:47,599 Speaker 1: but we were talking about a relationship earlier where yes, 1655 01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:51,000 Speaker 1: you had the husband managing all the finances and it 1656 01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:54,880 Speaker 1: was like a way of controlling the wife. I don't 1657 01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:59,599 Speaker 1: think this is what is happening here necessarily, but I 1658 01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:02,280 Speaker 1: think you should even you should you should know a 1659 01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:05,679 Speaker 1: little bit, even if even if like, yeah, you should 1660 01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:06,920 Speaker 1: know a little bit, you should know a little bit. 1661 01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:10,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think it's it's possible, And I think 1662 01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:13,040 Speaker 3: this is what they're kind of leading up to that 1663 01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:17,240 Speaker 3: maybe Julie like doesn't you know, like budgeting and stuff, 1664 01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:19,000 Speaker 3: and so she kind of ignored it. 1665 01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:20,040 Speaker 2: Like she did in the first place. 1666 01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:22,599 Speaker 1: Maybe she's like, we're gonna be married so and he's 1667 01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:24,519 Speaker 1: gonna take care of the find it and finances when 1668 01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:25,960 Speaker 1: that happened, So maybe that's fine. 1669 01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:26,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. 1670 01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:28,880 Speaker 1: Is that a red flag? Let let us know in 1671 01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:29,679 Speaker 1: the comments. 1672 01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:30,960 Speaker 2: Keep telling us elies and gentlemen. 1673 01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:36,120 Speaker 3: She also said that we always enjoy making nice meals 1674 01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:38,840 Speaker 3: for dinner every day. However, when I work late, she 1675 01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,760 Speaker 3: completely loses any motivation to cook and ends up eating 1676 01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,000 Speaker 3: cheese and crackers like a toddler for dinner. 1677 01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:45,759 Speaker 2: Okay. 1678 01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:48,920 Speaker 3: She also complained that in the last four years of 1679 01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:52,880 Speaker 3: our relationship, I have never said no to her for 1680 01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:56,280 Speaker 3: buying anything. She feels that I coddle her and she 1681 01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:58,960 Speaker 3: just got comfortable with all of the luxuries that I 1682 01:21:59,000 --> 01:21:59,960 Speaker 3: can provide for her. 1683 01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,200 Speaker 1: It's your fault that I'm so dependent. 1684 01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:04,720 Speaker 2: Stop buying things from me. 1685 01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:06,520 Speaker 1: Stop being so nice. 1686 01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:07,200 Speaker 2: Be mean. 1687 01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:10,720 Speaker 3: She talked about this with Mindy, and while Mindy initially 1688 01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:13,679 Speaker 3: just was just listening to her, she told her around 1689 01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:17,439 Speaker 3: September that one of her cousins also have the same issue. 1690 01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:20,600 Speaker 2: She decided to stay away. 1691 01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:22,639 Speaker 3: From her fiance for a month, and within a week 1692 01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,800 Speaker 3: she realized how much she missed him and never had 1693 01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:29,680 Speaker 3: doubts again. When Julie asked for a break, all she 1694 01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:32,400 Speaker 3: wanted to do was live with her best friend for 1695 01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:34,640 Speaker 3: a few weeks to see if she was too co 1696 01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:35,640 Speaker 3: dependent on me. 1697 01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:40,880 Speaker 1: Oh, so she realizes, she's realized, like, oh, I am 1698 01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:44,559 Speaker 1: so ridiculously dependent on this person. Let me see, let 1699 01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:45,000 Speaker 1: me go. 1700 01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,000 Speaker 2: Retain or regain reclaim. There we go. 1701 01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:53,160 Speaker 3: Thank you my self sufficiency and my independence. So I'm 1702 01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:55,519 Speaker 3: not coming in as like, Okay, I'm totally dependent on you. 1703 01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,800 Speaker 3: I'm a whole person. You're a whole person, and we're 1704 01:22:57,880 --> 01:22:58,720 Speaker 3: coming together. 1705 01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:00,400 Speaker 1: That I don't even know if a month is enough 1706 01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:02,719 Speaker 1: time to actually like understand that about yourself. 1707 01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:03,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a good question. 1708 01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:06,080 Speaker 3: But I'll I guess I could see, like if he's 1709 01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:08,679 Speaker 3: helping with dinners and stuff like that, Like thirty days 1710 01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:12,440 Speaker 3: of her eating cheese and crackers every dinner, it's like, okay. 1711 01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:15,200 Speaker 1: Some some of this sid I guess, But didn't she just 1712 01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,320 Speaker 1: proved like she like hasn't been taking care of herself 1713 01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:21,559 Speaker 1: in the time that they have been apart, right, Like 1714 01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:25,920 Speaker 1: is she actually is she actually doing anything to We 1715 01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:27,960 Speaker 1: don't know, all right, well, I don't know. I want 1716 01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:29,280 Speaker 1: to see out in bolts. Let's keep going. 1717 01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:32,879 Speaker 3: She knew I was planning to propose during our Christmas 1718 01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:36,400 Speaker 3: trip to my parents' house, okay, and when I told 1719 01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:39,479 Speaker 3: her that she could not take a break, she just 1720 01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:41,599 Speaker 3: freaked out and broke up with me, as she did 1721 01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:44,200 Speaker 3: not want to be engaged without knowing for sure that 1722 01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:46,280 Speaker 3: we won't end up like. 1723 01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:48,240 Speaker 1: Her parents, and she doesn't want to be controlled. 1724 01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:50,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, she had that fear of ending up like her parents. 1725 01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:54,280 Speaker 3: Basically we all do. After this, she asked me when 1726 01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:57,599 Speaker 3: I started meeting Mindy and how many times we met? 1727 01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:00,519 Speaker 3: I opened my chat messages with Mindy. That's that's smart, 1728 01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:03,440 Speaker 3: and handed her the phone. Complete transparency. 1729 01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:06,880 Speaker 1: That's great. Yes, transparency is the best policy with love, 1730 01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:08,760 Speaker 1: absolutely romantic partners. 1731 01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,720 Speaker 3: I told her I met Mindy only once in September, 1732 01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:14,200 Speaker 3: where she told me that Julie wanted to break up 1733 01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,840 Speaker 3: with me because she was not happy with our relationship. 1734 01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:20,680 Speaker 3: I already had noticed Julie's dishavior, and when I asked her, 1735 01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:23,600 Speaker 3: the only answer I got was, I am fine. We 1736 01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:30,040 Speaker 3: are fine. Gentlemen, There's one thing I've learned. I am fine, 1737 01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:33,240 Speaker 3: we are fine. We are fine, doesn't all with me mad. 1738 01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:38,240 Speaker 2: Due to my insecurities, I tried to hold on to 1739 01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:41,680 Speaker 2: Julie and started coddling her more. Ah ho. 1740 01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:50,680 Speaker 1: So when Mindy was all like, hey, she's going to 1741 01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:53,720 Speaker 1: break up with you, his response was to do the 1742 01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:56,800 Speaker 1: very thing that Julie did not want. His response was like, oh, 1743 01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:58,240 Speaker 1: if she's going to break up with me, I need 1744 01:24:58,240 --> 01:24:59,720 Speaker 1: to make sure I'm there for her more. I'm doing 1745 01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:03,040 Speaker 1: all nice things. But that's literally like Julie wanted what 1746 01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:06,280 Speaker 1: she wanted. Yeah, Julie wanted to be more independent, and 1747 01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:10,479 Speaker 1: so he's basically like, well, uh, not like that. Not 1748 01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:13,920 Speaker 1: swarming her, but not like like suffocating her in some ways. 1749 01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:18,479 Speaker 3: Honestly, I gotta say, Mindy at that point in this 1750 01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:21,400 Speaker 3: in the storyline must have been like, dude. 1751 01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:25,519 Speaker 1: Mindy's playing some four D relationship chess. Like all right, 1752 01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:27,800 Speaker 1: Mindy absolute dick wad of. 1753 01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:31,200 Speaker 2: Course, but a brilliant one bro, a brilliant. 1754 01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:34,759 Speaker 1: Great chess player. Man, Mindy needs to lead people into 1755 01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:39,000 Speaker 1: battle and like, just play some social games because Mindy, 1756 01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:39,880 Speaker 1: Mindy's lethal. 1757 01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,120 Speaker 2: It's giving Voldemort. She's got all the. 1758 01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:45,960 Speaker 1: Power she was in like the ancient lores of kings 1759 01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:48,720 Speaker 1: and queens. She would have her own fiefdom for sure, she. 1760 01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:49,880 Speaker 2: Could win the Game of Thrones. 1761 01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:53,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, maybe, dude, she's she's going for the starcause. 1762 01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:56,200 Speaker 2: That's right. See I put in that reference with very 1763 01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:56,920 Speaker 2: little tobacco. 1764 01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:58,599 Speaker 1: I thought, you you've seen the first season. 1765 01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:00,960 Speaker 2: The first season, Yeah, that's an stark. I don't even 1766 01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:01,439 Speaker 2: know what that is. 1767 01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:03,920 Speaker 1: So that's a big people who's that put f's in 1768 01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:06,040 Speaker 1: the chat bro for John not knowing his Game of 1769 01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:06,679 Speaker 1: Throne knowledge. 1770 01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:07,639 Speaker 2: I don't watch things. 1771 01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:08,760 Speaker 1: We know that. 1772 01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:13,240 Speaker 3: So due to my insecurities, I tried to hold onto 1773 01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:16,320 Speaker 3: Julie and began coddling her, planning more dates, trying to 1774 01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:18,559 Speaker 3: spend more time at home with her, et cetera, et cetera. 1775 01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,400 Speaker 3: When Julie asked me for a break and to stay 1776 01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:23,360 Speaker 3: away from me for a few weeks, I thought that 1777 01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:28,240 Speaker 3: this was the final step before the breakup, which I 1778 01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,040 Speaker 3: mean that I can't it can mean that sometimes, and 1779 01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:33,760 Speaker 3: I broke down. I fought with her, which led to 1780 01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:38,479 Speaker 3: our breakup and her moving out. At this point, Julie's 1781 01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:42,160 Speaker 3: voice started cracking up. She asked me, when Mindy contacted 1782 01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:45,160 Speaker 3: you after the breakup. I pointed her to the messages. 1783 01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:48,880 Speaker 3: Mindy initially just started sending me memes to cheer me up, 1784 01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:51,840 Speaker 3: and I just used to respond with a thanks or 1785 01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:52,479 Speaker 3: a thumbs up. 1786 01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:52,880 Speaker 2: Bro. 1787 01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:57,760 Speaker 1: Memes are the first step, first step, they are. That's 1788 01:26:57,760 --> 01:26:59,920 Speaker 1: how people work their way into your life. If they 1789 01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:03,240 Speaker 1: send you pictures of seals and they send you memes. 1790 01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:07,879 Speaker 2: And all of a sudden it and you're blinking. However, 1791 01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:09,479 Speaker 2: the messages. 1792 01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:11,640 Speaker 3: Started getting more and more frequent, and she offered to 1793 01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:14,200 Speaker 3: talk to me in case I needed help. 1794 01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:16,440 Speaker 2: The smoking gun. 1795 01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:20,040 Speaker 1: Mindy's under fire baby. 1796 01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:22,640 Speaker 3: She asked me what I was doing for Christmas and 1797 01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:24,799 Speaker 3: New Year's and when I told her I was inviting 1798 01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:27,639 Speaker 3: a few friends over, she told me that she didn't 1799 01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:33,960 Speaker 3: have any plans for New Years, and so I invited mindydd. 1800 01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:35,040 Speaker 1: She's playing her cards so well. 1801 01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,320 Speaker 3: Julie stopped me there. She told me that she did 1802 01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:41,160 Speaker 3: not need to hear the details. After that, she told 1803 01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:43,599 Speaker 3: me that when she moved out of our house after 1804 01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:46,200 Speaker 3: our fight, she thought that she was just not ready 1805 01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:48,320 Speaker 3: to get married to me. She stayed with her friend 1806 01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:50,960 Speaker 3: for two weeks and then got her own new apartment 1807 01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:54,000 Speaker 3: in January. She told me that she was miserable and 1808 01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:57,439 Speaker 3: missed me badly. It became more and more accurate when 1809 01:27:57,439 --> 01:27:59,920 Speaker 3: she moved into the apartment alone and could not stay 1810 01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:01,080 Speaker 3: there even one night. 1811 01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:03,320 Speaker 2: Her best friend is currently with her. 1812 01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:06,400 Speaker 3: Staying there in that new apartment, she realized she could 1813 01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:09,360 Speaker 3: not live without me. Within a week of living and 1814 01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:12,040 Speaker 3: moving in there. When she asked one of our mutual 1815 01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:15,160 Speaker 3: friends on Saturday about how I was doing, she told 1816 01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:18,679 Speaker 3: her about the party and told her that Mindy was there. 1817 01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:22,639 Speaker 1: Bro, why does everyone freaking stern up this drama? Right? 1818 01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:25,280 Speaker 2: Come on? I mean I guess or Julie did? 1819 01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:27,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I mean. 1820 01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:33,880 Speaker 3: Well, actually, uh, I don't think she asked about Mindy. 1821 01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:36,080 Speaker 3: The person just offered that Mindy was there. 1822 01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:38,240 Speaker 1: Yea drama. 1823 01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:41,360 Speaker 3: It did not make sense to her why Mindy would 1824 01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:44,000 Speaker 3: be at the party. She concluded that Mindy and I 1825 01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:47,400 Speaker 3: were having an affair during our relationship, and that was 1826 01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:49,840 Speaker 3: the reason. Mindy must have tried to break us apart 1827 01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:53,599 Speaker 3: by constantly telling her that she should not that Julie 1828 01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:57,200 Speaker 3: should not get married if she had any doubts. When 1829 01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:00,720 Speaker 3: she saw Mindy in our apartment on Sunday, she. 1830 01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:02,000 Speaker 2: Completely broke down. 1831 01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:05,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, of course, yes, I mean yeah, that's 1832 01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:07,479 Speaker 1: that is like the biggest betrayal too. 1833 01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:11,120 Speaker 3: However, when she learned that Mindy was also talking to 1834 01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:14,480 Speaker 3: me and telling me the opposite of things, she realized 1835 01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:18,440 Speaker 3: how naive she was to throw everything away without properly 1836 01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:19,880 Speaker 3: talking to me first. 1837 01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:23,480 Speaker 1: Chat with the people, Check with the people that like 1838 01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:27,240 Speaker 1: like get I feel like you should give you should 1839 01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:30,160 Speaker 1: if you hear a rumor about someone or you have, 1840 01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:32,720 Speaker 1: like a friend or someone who's like, I don't know, 1841 01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:37,680 Speaker 1: stirn up drama, give the opportunity for that person that 1842 01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:40,360 Speaker 1: is the subject of the drama and the subject of 1843 01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:44,519 Speaker 1: maybe the mistrust, an opportunity to defend themselves, especially if 1844 01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:47,160 Speaker 1: it's a long relationship before you like completely cut them 1845 01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:50,720 Speaker 1: out just based off someone's word, you know, because like 1846 01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:53,599 Speaker 1: they're there are manipulators and there are liars out there 1847 01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:55,360 Speaker 1: in the world. You got you gotta protect yourself, y'all. 1848 01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:56,719 Speaker 2: Gotta stay protected, y'all. 1849 01:29:56,920 --> 01:30:01,120 Speaker 1: So this so this doesn't happen to fucking have Mindy's 1850 01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:02,040 Speaker 1: in your life, Oh. 1851 01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:02,960 Speaker 2: Goodness, gracious. 1852 01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:05,920 Speaker 3: As hurt as she is seeing me with Mindy, she 1853 01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:09,120 Speaker 3: also doesn't want to lose me. And I'm reading between 1854 01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:11,439 Speaker 3: the lines, but like as she's a friend, as a 1855 01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:12,040 Speaker 3: person in her. 1856 01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:13,520 Speaker 2: Life even so, not in a relationship. 1857 01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:16,360 Speaker 1: But I mean it's probably been It's probably a little 1858 01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:18,559 Speaker 1: bit too soon to have that kind of relationship. Yeah, 1859 01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:21,599 Speaker 1: it takes a while for the flames to die and 1860 01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:25,800 Speaker 1: the friendship to solidify. 1861 01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:26,400 Speaker 2: The embOS to a rose. 1862 01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:26,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1863 01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:30,280 Speaker 3: She kept on calling herself an idiot and apologizing for 1864 01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:33,519 Speaker 3: not telling her concerns to me. Sooner I sat next 1865 01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:35,800 Speaker 3: door and tried to hug her, but she moved away. 1866 01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:40,320 Speaker 3: She asked if I was willing to still be together. 1867 01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:47,280 Speaker 1: Willing to still be together? Yep, So Julie, after going 1868 01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:51,360 Speaker 1: through all of this, after being lied to by Mindy, 1869 01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:56,320 Speaker 1: after breaking up with Op, She's like, I want you back. 1870 01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:02,120 Speaker 1: After Op hooked up with Mindy, I wonder if I mean, like, 1871 01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:04,760 Speaker 1: it's it's just gonna be a hard thing to get through, 1872 01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:06,679 Speaker 1: Like they're gonna have to learn to trust each other again. 1873 01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:08,920 Speaker 2: That is true, That is true. But you know what 1874 01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:11,439 Speaker 2: Op said? What as a response, what do you say? 1875 01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:17,040 Speaker 2: And I told her I would give anything to get 1876 01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:18,200 Speaker 2: her back. 1877 01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:23,639 Speaker 1: Really really, that's great, that's great, right, I mean, I'm 1878 01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:28,240 Speaker 1: glad they're finally communicating. Like so uh someone, Samantha, someone 1879 01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:32,599 Speaker 1: said they're almost thirty and they can't communicate. Yeah, burning 1880 01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:35,280 Speaker 1: Roseaid can't believe everyone here is almost thirty and they 1881 01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:38,000 Speaker 1: still don't know how to communicate. At least they're learning. 1882 01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:39,720 Speaker 1: At least they're learning now. 1883 01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:43,240 Speaker 3: They're breaking through now, and it seems like the power 1884 01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:48,200 Speaker 3: of the relationship is still uh is still prevailing. Yeah 1885 01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:49,679 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, right here, Yeah right, 1886 01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:54,880 Speaker 3: I mean, my goodness, but but bo So she told 1887 01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:57,559 Speaker 3: me she was willing to forget everything that had happened, 1888 01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:00,800 Speaker 3: but she had a few conditions. First condition was that 1889 01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:03,960 Speaker 3: I cut contact with Mindy fair enough I blocked her 1890 01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:07,599 Speaker 3: everywhere and never contacted her again, Or that I block 1891 01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:10,639 Speaker 3: her everywhere and never contact her again. If I see 1892 01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:12,840 Speaker 3: her standing in front of me, I act as if 1893 01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:13,800 Speaker 3: she is invisible. 1894 01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:14,960 Speaker 2: I was okay with that. 1895 01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:18,280 Speaker 3: Secondly, she had already signed up for individual therapy and 1896 01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:20,200 Speaker 3: is on the wait list. She wants us to do 1897 01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:22,400 Speaker 3: couples therapy so that way we can talk about all 1898 01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:24,120 Speaker 3: the concerns we have and work through her. 1899 01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:26,679 Speaker 1: So smart, so smart. If you're really going to rebuild 1900 01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:28,719 Speaker 1: the relationship, you need that one hundred percent. 1901 01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:32,200 Speaker 3: We also decided to hold off on our engagement or 1902 01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:35,120 Speaker 3: marriage until we can both get into couple's therapy. I 1903 01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:39,599 Speaker 3: was also okay with that too, another another great idea. Finally, 1904 01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:41,520 Speaker 3: she wanted me to forget. 1905 01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:44,000 Speaker 2: The last month as a bad nightmare and never talk 1906 01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:44,840 Speaker 2: about it again. 1907 01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:47,920 Speaker 1: I mean, this is that what therapy is for to 1908 01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:48,519 Speaker 1: talk about I. 1909 01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:50,960 Speaker 3: Think, I think, yeah, like, it's it's it's there is 1910 01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:53,320 Speaker 3: a little bit of some counterintuitive stuff going on. It's like, hey, 1911 01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:58,120 Speaker 3: let's go to like breakdown to observe and work on all. 1912 01:32:58,240 --> 01:33:01,400 Speaker 1: I see the communication almost waking down before our eyes 1913 01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:04,200 Speaker 1: of this paradoxical desires. 1914 01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:08,280 Speaker 3: Oh and if I ever make a we were on 1915 01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:10,840 Speaker 3: a break joke, she would punch me in the face. 1916 01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:14,519 Speaker 2: This was the first time we both smiled. 1917 01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:17,479 Speaker 1: Oh okay, at least it's going better. 1918 01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:19,880 Speaker 3: I asked her what she was going to do about 1919 01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:21,559 Speaker 3: Mindy as they worked together. 1920 01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:25,559 Speaker 1: We cannot forget. Yeah, dude, that's big. Yet you totally 1921 01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:26,240 Speaker 1: forgot about that. 1922 01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:29,200 Speaker 3: She said that the biggest punishment was for Mindy to 1923 01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:34,480 Speaker 3: know that she did not succeed in breaking up with us. 1924 01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:34,840 Speaker 5: Yo. 1925 01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:37,880 Speaker 1: That's yeah, okay, all right, all right, we're getting stronger 1926 01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:39,200 Speaker 1: with Like. 1927 01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:42,160 Speaker 2: I could see Julie just walking back some Mindy. How's 1928 01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:45,040 Speaker 2: the weeked? How's the weekend? 1929 01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:47,719 Speaker 1: How you doing? Pretty sad? 1930 01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:51,840 Speaker 3: She wants Mindy to see how happy she is with me, 1931 01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:54,840 Speaker 3: and she wants Mindy to be there when she flaunts 1932 01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:57,599 Speaker 3: that big old engagement ring in the office and gets 1933 01:33:57,680 --> 01:33:59,280 Speaker 3: jealous when we get married. 1934 01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:05,840 Speaker 2: We hugged, We. 1935 01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:07,680 Speaker 3: Hugged, and I felt so relieved that I had a 1936 01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:09,880 Speaker 3: chance to make things right for her. I asked her 1937 01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:12,479 Speaker 3: to stay and she agreed. The rest of the evening. 1938 01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:15,120 Speaker 3: The rest of the evening was so nice. We ordered 1939 01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:18,400 Speaker 3: door Dash and watched reruns of Top Chef while cuddling on. 1940 01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:21,479 Speaker 1: Oh, that's exactly what you want, so cute, that's what 1941 01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:23,120 Speaker 1: you love to hear, so cute. 1942 01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:25,880 Speaker 2: In the morning, we discussed moving back in together. 1943 01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:28,439 Speaker 3: I want her to move back into our old apartment, 1944 01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:31,160 Speaker 3: but she wants a fresh start and asked me if 1945 01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:34,080 Speaker 3: I was willing to move into her new apartment. Her 1946 01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:37,320 Speaker 3: new apartment is tiny compared to our current one and 1947 01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:40,080 Speaker 3: also not in the best neighborhood, but we will decide 1948 01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:42,000 Speaker 3: to talk about it more, and decided later. 1949 01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:45,599 Speaker 1: What do you got right for us? 1950 01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:48,280 Speaker 5: She just signed the lease and she's like, I can't. 1951 01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:49,599 Speaker 5: I've put a deposit down there. 1952 01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:53,719 Speaker 1: She has bad vibe. Let's move to the worst part 1953 01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:57,559 Speaker 1: of her place and a terrible neighborhood. You need a 1954 01:34:57,600 --> 01:34:58,800 Speaker 1: fresh start. 1955 01:34:58,439 --> 01:34:59,200 Speaker 2: Let's freaking go. 1956 01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:03,800 Speaker 3: I also will have to deal with the issue of 1957 01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:07,000 Speaker 3: having two twelve month leases and how to get out 1958 01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:07,640 Speaker 3: of one of them. 1959 01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:11,559 Speaker 1: Dude, this seems like a bad idea. Yeah, you don't 1960 01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:13,800 Speaker 1: need to sign a new lease just because there's like 1961 01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:16,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, mindy juices or just like sad and tea. 1962 01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:20,080 Speaker 3: That's also also there's way more like a happy memories 1963 01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:21,679 Speaker 3: of the relationship in the old apartment. 1964 01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:22,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1965 01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:25,920 Speaker 3: If anything, the new apartment is tainted because she had 1966 01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:27,160 Speaker 3: to get that new apartment. 1967 01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:29,160 Speaker 1: Because I know because of mindy. I don't know what 1968 01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:31,719 Speaker 1: are you guys say? Are you pro get new apartment 1969 01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:33,920 Speaker 1: or are you pro keep the old place? 1970 01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:35,240 Speaker 2: A new apartment or old apartment? 1971 01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:36,759 Speaker 1: Slurp up the MINDI juice. 1972 01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:42,719 Speaker 3: Goodness gracious, But currently, Julie went to her apartment after 1973 01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:44,320 Speaker 3: we got lunch to get some of her stuff for 1974 01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:47,479 Speaker 3: the week, and I am now writing this post. I 1975 01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:50,360 Speaker 3: just feel so lucky that I did not lose Julie 1976 01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:53,479 Speaker 3: despite my terrible actions during the last month. I just 1977 01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:55,639 Speaker 3: hope that we're able to work things out and get 1978 01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:58,439 Speaker 3: married soon. And this whole incident is just a small 1979 01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:00,559 Speaker 3: bump in our perfect relationship ship. 1980 01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:07,560 Speaker 1: Perfect relationship. That's a little bit of a stretch. Perfect 1981 01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:10,639 Speaker 1: relations I don't know about that for love. 1982 01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:14,240 Speaker 3: I also don't know how to address the issue where 1983 01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:17,040 Speaker 3: she feels coddled by my behavior and feels like I'm 1984 01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:19,040 Speaker 3: making her code dependent on me, which is a little 1985 01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:21,080 Speaker 3: tough because he's just, you know, kind of trying to. 1986 01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:22,120 Speaker 1: Help stop doing nice shit. 1987 01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:25,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just my personality and I need to work 1988 01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:27,960 Speaker 3: on that during my couple therapy. However, any tips from 1989 01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:30,240 Speaker 3: you guys are welcome on how to make her feel 1990 01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:33,800 Speaker 3: less codependent. PS thanks to everyone who checked on my 1991 01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:36,439 Speaker 3: health during the last few days via DMS and sent 1992 01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:40,519 Speaker 3: me messages for helpliness. Don't worry, I am a marathon runner. 1993 01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:43,000 Speaker 3: I am a marathon runner, and I don't give up 1994 01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:46,800 Speaker 3: that easy. And ladies and gentlemen. Ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, 1995 01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:49,639 Speaker 3: we still have a few little, quick relevant comments. But okay, 1996 01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:53,880 Speaker 3: let's I think let's die. Then John right put the 1997 01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:55,960 Speaker 3: camera on John for a second, trying to check something. 1998 01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:59,120 Speaker 3: But John dive into some of the comments that the 1999 01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:01,479 Speaker 3: people have been saying absolutely. 2000 01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:02,040 Speaker 1: So. 2001 01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:04,280 Speaker 2: We have a few comments here. 2002 01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:08,719 Speaker 3: We have some from Lady Hayak keep the old place, 2003 01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:13,640 Speaker 3: so I personally am pro keeping the old place. We 2004 01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:18,639 Speaker 3: also had Leslie and Macdery I totally mispronounced that sorry 2005 01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:22,040 Speaker 3: saying old apartment and Luna Moon saying old apartment is better. 2006 01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:27,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I am one hundred percent in on moving into 2007 01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:28,200 Speaker 2: the old apartment. Again. 2008 01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:31,160 Speaker 3: I think that they had more happy memories, They had 2009 01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:34,840 Speaker 3: more good things that happened in the old apartment than 2010 01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:36,040 Speaker 3: the new apartment. 2011 01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:39,639 Speaker 2: Which is literally completely and utterly tainted. 2012 01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:44,800 Speaker 3: I also wonder from you all if you could throw 2013 01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:50,680 Speaker 3: some hold on red flags in the comments below and 2014 01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:53,439 Speaker 3: tell me if you think it was a red flag 2015 01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:59,719 Speaker 3: for Julie no longer wanting to discuss this incident ever again, 2016 01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:05,880 Speaker 3: because I do think that, you know, it was something 2017 01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:08,240 Speaker 3: that is worth discussing, especially the fact that they're going on. 2018 01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:11,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's it's like like you're gonna have 2019 01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:13,679 Speaker 1: to look under it at some point, because I think 2020 01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:15,600 Speaker 1: what will happen if you don't look at it is 2021 01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:16,799 Speaker 1: they'll be building resentment. 2022 01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:20,320 Speaker 2: What Jane Jackson says, just throw out the old sheets. 2023 01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:27,559 Speaker 1: The only thing we gotta get at it heredess gracious, 2024 01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:28,479 Speaker 1: oh oh and then wow. 2025 01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:31,120 Speaker 3: Further on that, Bernie Gross says, buy a new mattress. 2026 01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:32,720 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be able to sleep in the same bed 2027 01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:34,720 Speaker 3: as Mandy. I mean, you know what, getting rid of 2028 01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:36,040 Speaker 3: the sheets, getting rid of the mattress, but. 2029 01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:39,280 Speaker 1: Deeper than getting a new apartment in a neighborhood. 2030 01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:40,160 Speaker 2: That's that's right. 2031 01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:44,400 Speaker 1: Yes, but I uh do have some relevant comments. 2032 01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:45,479 Speaker 2: We have some quick ones. 2033 01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:48,439 Speaker 1: Let's hit it. But we do have another story coming. 2034 01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:52,280 Speaker 1: So uh just get in your seat and get ready because. 2035 01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:53,200 Speaker 4: We're we're going. 2036 01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:55,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna go hard on this stream. This tream is 2037 01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:56,160 Speaker 1: going for a while. 2038 01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:59,760 Speaker 3: That is correct, Stay around, ladies and gentlemen. First one 2039 01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:00,960 Speaker 3: come from Debbie Coleman. 2040 01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:01,519 Speaker 2: Ten ten. 2041 01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:08,120 Speaker 3: So what happened to Mindy? Opie responds, no idea. As 2042 01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:10,479 Speaker 3: far as I'm concerned, she doesn't exist because remember, one 2043 01:39:10,479 --> 01:39:13,600 Speaker 3: of the conditions is to go completely no contact. 2044 01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:14,920 Speaker 1: Potential, which she is smart. 2045 01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:15,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2046 01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:18,240 Speaker 3: Ocean Breeze one two three says so it was Mindy 2047 01:39:18,280 --> 01:39:21,559 Speaker 3: who suggested to Julie that you take the break, OPI Yes, 2048 01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:24,720 Speaker 3: Mindy told Julie that she should take a break, and 2049 01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:27,719 Speaker 3: at the same time told me that Julie just wanted 2050 01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:30,360 Speaker 3: to break up with me because she was unhappy with me. 2051 01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:33,760 Speaker 3: I thought the break. I thought a break meant that 2052 01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:35,880 Speaker 3: she wanted to move away and I would never see 2053 01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:39,040 Speaker 3: her again if I said yes. Eight Marshmallows, a great 2054 01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:41,519 Speaker 3: user name, says, I don't know how you can make 2055 01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:43,960 Speaker 3: someone who can't even stay alone in their part in 2056 01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:47,679 Speaker 3: their own apartment less codependent. She needs her own therapist 2057 01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:50,800 Speaker 3: to make that happen, or she will again blame you 2058 01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:52,040 Speaker 3: for quote unquote making. 2059 01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:52,360 Speaker 2: Her that way. 2060 01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:55,519 Speaker 3: Opie says, yes, she is looking for one right now. 2061 01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:57,640 Speaker 3: I have been in therapy and it takes time to 2062 01:39:57,640 --> 01:40:00,559 Speaker 3: find the right therapist that helps you big facts. At 2063 01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:03,080 Speaker 3: least now we have discussed this issue, so it will 2064 01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:06,160 Speaker 3: be easier for us to see the signs and work 2065 01:40:06,439 --> 01:40:07,559 Speaker 3: on them together. 2066 01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:12,599 Speaker 1: All right, Well, I progress, progress, progress, and that's all 2067 01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:15,719 Speaker 1: way that we could ask for. Definitely a way better 2068 01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:21,479 Speaker 1: place than we were. Yeah, that was that was wild 2069 01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:23,599 Speaker 1: And I'm glad they cut off contact with Mindy, which 2070 01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:26,400 Speaker 1: seems like the right thing to do. Yes, but I 2071 01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:28,320 Speaker 1: also am glad that you guys are not cutting off 2072 01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:32,200 Speaker 1: contact with us because Jack Glenn Diu, we love you too. 2073 01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:35,679 Speaker 1: Thank you for saying that you love us, and Nicole 2074 01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:39,679 Speaker 1: Stewart says, perfect long live stream, I enjoy watching your videos. Well, 2075 01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:42,840 Speaker 1: get buckled out because we are about to get into 2076 01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:45,439 Speaker 1: another story. So, oh man, this is a great one. 2077 01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:49,679 Speaker 1: Am the a hole for revealing my brother's body count 2078 01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:57,479 Speaker 1: to his fiance? What do you think? 2079 01:40:57,520 --> 01:41:03,640 Speaker 2: John? Yeah? Yeah, why you gotta be this is information 2080 01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:05,519 Speaker 2: you don't need to be now. 2081 01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:10,240 Speaker 3: Now, now the two of them in the relationship, they 2082 01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:13,280 Speaker 3: can discuss that they rested that totally. Hey, talk about 2083 01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:16,160 Speaker 3: it one hundred percent. But you last time I've checked 2084 01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:19,400 Speaker 3: my sister are not in marral matic relationships. 2085 01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:20,360 Speaker 2: Hello. 2086 01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:25,479 Speaker 1: Also put your body counts at the job, Sam and 2087 01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:29,280 Speaker 1: John being ready? Yeah, all right, so we're not hydriading. 2088 01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:32,960 Speaker 1: This is actually very uh, this is this is this 2089 01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:35,800 Speaker 1: is very very recent. In January nineteen, twenty twenty four. 2090 01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:39,320 Speaker 1: So I, thirty female, was out having a girls' night 2091 01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:42,960 Speaker 1: with my little brothers twenty eight female, my fiance twenty 2092 01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:46,400 Speaker 1: four female. They recently got engaged after dating for about 2093 01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:46,840 Speaker 1: a year. 2094 01:41:47,240 --> 01:41:48,320 Speaker 2: Congrats, there you go. 2095 01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:51,040 Speaker 1: I enjoy hanging out with my soon to be sister 2096 01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:53,879 Speaker 1: in law, and this was one of the only times 2097 01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:56,280 Speaker 1: I've hung out with her without my brother in toel. 2098 01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:58,960 Speaker 1: So we're all having a ball and most of us 2099 01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:01,360 Speaker 1: were a bit tipsy and started asking me about my 2100 01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:05,479 Speaker 1: marriage and some more intimate questions like how does it 2101 01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:07,880 Speaker 1: feel to be with one person for the rest of 2102 01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:10,479 Speaker 1: your life? And all that jazz you're going to be 2103 01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:13,840 Speaker 1: able to do it. Following the conversation, someone in the 2104 01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:17,800 Speaker 1: group asked everyone how many folks each gal has slept with. 2105 01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:22,000 Speaker 1: I honestly wasn't comfortable with the conversation, but my soon 2106 01:42:22,160 --> 01:42:24,600 Speaker 1: to be sister in law sort of took hold of 2107 01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:27,719 Speaker 1: the topic and mentioned that her and my brother don't 2108 01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:31,439 Speaker 1: concern themselves with each other's pass which I think is 2109 01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:32,560 Speaker 1: someone healthy. 2110 01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:35,160 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's not necessarily you're not sitting like, all right, 2111 01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:36,880 Speaker 2: how many people you bang? Brother? 2112 01:42:37,479 --> 01:42:41,920 Speaker 1: I don't feel like I feel like it's fairly unrelevant, 2113 01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:45,280 Speaker 1: at least to me. But her words were, the past 2114 01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:48,200 Speaker 1: stays in the past, and if you slept with twenty women, 2115 01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:50,040 Speaker 1: that does. 2116 01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:51,880 Speaker 2: Not matter to her? What about thirty? 2117 01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:55,120 Speaker 1: What about forty? What about fifty? I actually actually have 2118 01:42:55,120 --> 01:42:58,640 Speaker 1: a question. Is there a deal breaker number for the 2119 01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:02,200 Speaker 1: amount of people someone slept with? Like so like body 2120 01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:06,720 Speaker 1: count forty thousand? Yeah, forty thousand, assuming they're like they're like, 2121 01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:09,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's still healthy and all that. You know 2122 01:43:09,479 --> 01:43:11,800 Speaker 1: that all is yeah, let us know. Do you have 2123 01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:15,000 Speaker 1: a deal breaker? A body count? But Opie says, I 2124 01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:18,639 Speaker 1: agree with her, But this is where I probably messed up. 2125 01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:23,439 Speaker 1: A little brother was somewhat adventurous in his late teens 2126 01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:26,920 Speaker 1: early twenties. He was a college athlete and in a frat. 2127 01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:28,400 Speaker 2: Oh boy, but. 2128 01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:30,280 Speaker 3: I see you in the comments if you know what's 2129 01:43:30,360 --> 01:43:31,479 Speaker 3: what we're about to see? 2130 01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:35,120 Speaker 1: And also can you guess what the body count is? 2131 01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:37,519 Speaker 1: Guess it? As we went to the same college, we 2132 01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:40,280 Speaker 1: had a lot of mutual friends, and this is information 2133 01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:43,160 Speaker 1: that was made aware to me without my wanting. So 2134 01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:47,679 Speaker 1: I know the ballpark of his body count is well 2135 01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:51,600 Speaker 1: over fifty women, probably closer to one hundred. And my 2136 01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:54,439 Speaker 1: brother confirmed this to me when I asked him if 2137 01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:56,760 Speaker 1: he was being safe with decisions at the time, eg. 2138 01:43:56,920 --> 01:44:00,439 Speaker 1: Going to the doctor and getting tested and such. Followed up, 2139 01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:03,439 Speaker 1: her comment was something like, and even if it was 2140 01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:07,000 Speaker 1: a huge number like thirty five people or so, I 2141 01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:13,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't care. Her saying that prompted me to ask what 2142 01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:19,160 Speaker 1: if it was fifty, which also at least he's using 2143 01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:22,360 Speaker 1: the conservative side to the scale. He said hundreds. But 2144 01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:27,639 Speaker 1: all right, stopping right here, is it a red flag? 2145 01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:31,000 Speaker 1: One of OP to say this is it a and 2146 01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:33,920 Speaker 1: also like like what do you think of OP saying 2147 01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:35,080 Speaker 1: asking that question? 2148 01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:39,040 Speaker 2: Okay? So and again so this is OP. Who is 2149 01:44:39,120 --> 01:44:40,559 Speaker 2: the sister? 2150 01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:45,840 Speaker 1: So just a reminder, I thirty female? Yep, I was 2151 01:44:45,880 --> 01:44:49,120 Speaker 1: out having a girl's net with my little brother's twenty 2152 01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:54,280 Speaker 1: eight male fiance, twenty four female. So they're out, So 2153 01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:59,519 Speaker 1: thirty female OP and twenty four female fiance. Oh, sister, 2154 01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:01,080 Speaker 1: he's the sister of the brother. 2155 01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:03,479 Speaker 2: Yes, and she's the one that was like, what about fifty? 2156 01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:04,600 Speaker 1: What about fifty. 2157 01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:07,040 Speaker 2: Again? 2158 01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:07,880 Speaker 1: Asshole or not? 2159 01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:08,360 Speaker 2: Asshole? 2160 01:45:09,320 --> 01:45:14,599 Speaker 3: I would say boink, asshole and red flag because again, 2161 01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:19,000 Speaker 3: like just by saying the question, you have now revealed 2162 01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:22,840 Speaker 3: a number, a number, And honestly, what is she? What 2163 01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:24,920 Speaker 3: is what would any human want to they would want 2164 01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:28,240 Speaker 3: to know? Curiosity will kill the cat? Yeah, So if 2165 01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:30,360 Speaker 3: she keeps going down the rabbit hole and the fiance, 2166 01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:33,759 Speaker 3: is she gonna find out that actually we're talking about 2167 01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:36,919 Speaker 3: air arrangement fifty to one hundred bodies. 2168 01:45:38,920 --> 01:45:43,840 Speaker 1: Do you think she's gonna take the bait and go 2169 01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:46,960 Speaker 1: down the rabbit hole. Is Alice falling down the rabbit hole? 2170 01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:51,599 Speaker 1: Let's put our conspiracy theory hats on. What do you think? 2171 01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:53,760 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 2172 01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:56,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, it's gonna take the bait. Absolutely debait. Yeah, 2173 01:45:56,680 --> 01:45:58,760 Speaker 1: what do you guys think? But your answer is in 2174 01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:03,519 Speaker 1: the comments. Opie has sown a seed, but not as 2175 01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:04,719 Speaker 1: many as her brother. 2176 01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:08,040 Speaker 2: So right, that's amazing right now, by the way, off, yeah, 2177 01:46:08,160 --> 01:46:08,839 Speaker 2: what a cute. 2178 01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:14,599 Speaker 1: All right, let's go down this hole just like Op's okay, 2179 01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:17,160 Speaker 1: oh uh. She got a sort of strange look on 2180 01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:23,120 Speaker 1: her face and mouth the word fifty fifty, but I 2181 01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:25,600 Speaker 1: played it off like I didn't know what I was 2182 01:46:25,640 --> 01:46:28,880 Speaker 1: talking about and more so curious about what her cutoff 2183 01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:32,960 Speaker 1: range for a lot is. Fast forward a few days 2184 01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:35,000 Speaker 1: and I meet them both for lunch and she seems 2185 01:46:35,040 --> 01:46:37,559 Speaker 1: sort of sullen and my brother is being short with me. 2186 01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:40,679 Speaker 1: When she goes to the bathroom. I ask my brother 2187 01:46:40,720 --> 01:46:44,240 Speaker 1: what's up, and he basically blames me for having revealed 2188 01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:48,040 Speaker 1: his past sexual history to his fiance, and now she's 2189 01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:51,840 Speaker 1: acting strange towards him, which I guess, which is what 2190 01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:54,839 Speaker 1: we were saying before, like transparency with your your partner, 2191 01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:58,400 Speaker 1: like I feel like maybe being transparent about your past 2192 01:46:59,240 --> 01:47:01,400 Speaker 1: will make it so things like this don't happen. Drop 2193 01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:03,920 Speaker 1: the body acount OPI is still the A hole? But yes, 2194 01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:06,639 Speaker 1: but but if they already knew, they already new wouldn't 2195 01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:08,920 Speaker 1: an issue. But if they already knew, would they have 2196 01:47:08,960 --> 01:47:12,759 Speaker 1: stayed together? True? I explained that it was a slip 2197 01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:14,680 Speaker 1: of the tongue and I didn't confirm any number. But 2198 01:47:14,720 --> 01:47:16,360 Speaker 1: now he has pissed and a couple of our mutual 2199 01:47:16,360 --> 01:47:20,200 Speaker 1: friends have let me know. I have fed up? Am 2200 01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:22,840 Speaker 1: I the A hole? And there is there is a 2201 01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:26,880 Speaker 1: relevant some relevant comments and an update which we will read. 2202 01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:29,320 Speaker 1: But what do you guys think? Is OP the A hole? 2203 01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:31,519 Speaker 2: Let us know in the comments below. 2204 01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:33,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Joe, what do you think? I? 2205 01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:35,200 Speaker 2: So let's break it down a little bit. 2206 01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:39,000 Speaker 3: Yes, she did like ask a question, But the thing is, 2207 01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:43,240 Speaker 3: she revealed the information in the question. I truly think 2208 01:47:43,479 --> 01:47:47,200 Speaker 3: that the sister should have just kept her mouth closed. 2209 01:47:47,439 --> 01:47:50,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and A hole moved to ask the question. 2210 01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:52,280 Speaker 2: Here's a question. Would she be an A hole if 2211 01:47:52,280 --> 01:47:55,320 Speaker 2: she went to the brother and was like, your fiance 2212 01:47:55,439 --> 01:47:57,080 Speaker 2: thinks thirty five is a high number? 2213 01:47:57,400 --> 01:48:01,000 Speaker 1: Maybe that I don't think so. I don't think so, 2214 01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:03,360 Speaker 1: but I think like, like, hey, maybe this is something 2215 01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:05,479 Speaker 1: you want to get ahead of. Someone in the chat 2216 01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:08,880 Speaker 1: is right if you scroll up a little bit, they 2217 01:48:08,960 --> 01:48:14,320 Speaker 1: said a little bit more. Uh Yeah, transparency Kim Kwant says, 2218 01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:17,439 Speaker 1: transparency is so important relationships. And I think it is 2219 01:48:17,479 --> 01:48:20,880 Speaker 1: because it's like you're the truth comes out. The truth 2220 01:48:20,920 --> 01:48:22,840 Speaker 1: comes out, and if you, if it comes out from you, 2221 01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:27,559 Speaker 1: maybe it'll things will be a little bit easier. Yeah. Still, 2222 01:48:27,560 --> 01:48:30,479 Speaker 1: OPI is the a hole to be clear, but much 2223 01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:32,360 Speaker 1: better to be fully upfront. So I don't think OP 2224 01:48:32,439 --> 01:48:34,800 Speaker 1: would be the a hole for saying like, hey, just 2225 01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:36,360 Speaker 1: heads up, maybe you should get ahead of this. 2226 01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:39,799 Speaker 3: So but in reality, OPI is the ahole by art decree. 2227 01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:43,360 Speaker 3: But you you disagree, you want to let's talk about 2228 01:48:43,520 --> 01:48:45,719 Speaker 3: Let's come on and talk about those comments. 2229 01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:48,519 Speaker 1: Dustin Bilbo. The line says, like, why is OP out 2230 01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:49,839 Speaker 1: here thorough pots? 2231 01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:50,479 Speaker 2: Uh? 2232 01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:55,120 Speaker 1: Because because OP maybe likes it, Hope wants this thorough 2233 01:48:55,120 --> 01:48:56,840 Speaker 1: little pot. Maybe OP he's a cook. We've had a 2234 01:48:56,880 --> 01:48:59,080 Speaker 1: lot of OP is being controlled by a little French 2235 01:48:59,160 --> 01:49:01,240 Speaker 1: rat who knows really don't know. But let's get into 2236 01:49:01,240 --> 01:49:03,960 Speaker 1: the relevant comment. So typical internet seven thirty says you 2237 01:49:04,160 --> 01:49:06,800 Speaker 1: are the asshole, but I think you wanted her to 2238 01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:08,800 Speaker 1: know once she said such a low number compared to 2239 01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:11,200 Speaker 1: the truth. I think you believe your brother was reckless 2240 01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:14,639 Speaker 1: in using women, so she needed to know his past. Personally, 2241 01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:17,000 Speaker 1: I bet he was reckless in using women, but I 2242 01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:19,120 Speaker 1: have to assume it was consensual. He was given the 2243 01:49:19,120 --> 01:49:21,080 Speaker 1: opportunity to have a ton of sex and he took it. 2244 01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:23,439 Speaker 1: But I think only he should be the one discussing 2245 01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:28,640 Speaker 1: numbers with maybe not future sister in law. Thing oh Ophie, 2246 01:49:29,880 --> 01:49:32,920 Speaker 1: the comment is jumping. Once you put that number in 2247 01:49:32,920 --> 01:49:35,320 Speaker 1: the air, it was over. She is now obviously hurt 2248 01:49:35,320 --> 01:49:37,120 Speaker 1: to hear it. She may have believed it was high, 2249 01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:40,160 Speaker 1: but not knowing was easier. This is a very tough 2250 01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:44,040 Speaker 1: situation now, and their relationship may never recover, which I 2251 01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:46,360 Speaker 1: think could be true possible, or maybe it will, but 2252 01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:48,360 Speaker 1: it's going to take time. You force them to have 2253 01:49:48,439 --> 01:49:51,200 Speaker 1: a conversation they agreed to avoid, so be prepared to 2254 01:49:51,240 --> 01:49:54,439 Speaker 1: lose your brother for a while or possibly forever. I 2255 01:49:54,479 --> 01:49:56,800 Speaker 1: don't know if that may be true, but maybe I'm 2256 01:49:56,800 --> 01:49:58,760 Speaker 1: betting you meant no harm or malice, but now you 2257 01:49:58,760 --> 01:50:02,000 Speaker 1: have to live with the repercussions. Good luck repairing a relationship, 2258 01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:04,120 Speaker 1: and I hope they are able to move forward with 2259 01:50:04,200 --> 01:50:08,360 Speaker 1: theirs and op does respond, Yeah, I can accept I 2260 01:50:08,400 --> 01:50:10,320 Speaker 1: was totally the a hole in the situation, but I 2261 01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:12,360 Speaker 1: really did not mean to be the a hole. For 2262 01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:14,559 Speaker 1: what is worth. My brother and soon to be sister 2263 01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:16,800 Speaker 1: in law are fine now. She actually did text me 2264 01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:20,280 Speaker 1: sort of thanking me for alluding to it. In the end, 2265 01:50:20,360 --> 01:50:22,920 Speaker 1: it hasn't changed anything between them. My brother and I 2266 01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:25,920 Speaker 1: are all right. It really was just one lunch that 2267 01:50:25,960 --> 01:50:28,320 Speaker 1: he was like, what the f dude. In the end, 2268 01:50:28,400 --> 01:50:31,160 Speaker 1: he knows it was not out of malice, which is good. 2269 01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:33,600 Speaker 1: That is, if the relationship was strong enough to weather it. 2270 01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:35,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent, Yeah I would. 2271 01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:38,280 Speaker 3: I would hope that the brother and sister relationship would 2272 01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:40,720 Speaker 3: also be able to continue. 2273 01:50:40,439 --> 01:50:42,200 Speaker 1: Which I think it will. And there are is a 2274 01:50:42,200 --> 01:50:44,439 Speaker 1: more relevant comments and an update. 2275 01:50:44,520 --> 01:50:45,439 Speaker 2: Okay, there we go. 2276 01:50:45,640 --> 01:50:49,320 Speaker 1: So Bori sty seventeen says, what was the best possible 2277 01:50:49,400 --> 01:50:52,800 Speaker 1: outcome for this? In your head? Opie says, there just 2278 01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:55,679 Speaker 1: wasn't enough thought in terms of the best possible outcome. 2279 01:50:55,720 --> 01:50:58,360 Speaker 1: I was just taken by surprise that her high theoretical 2280 01:50:58,439 --> 01:51:01,840 Speaker 1: number was so much less than his actual number, his 2281 01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:05,799 Speaker 1: actual bottom range number, his bottom range, emphasis on bottom. 2282 01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:11,720 Speaker 1: But uh, we have another update, so shall we get 2283 01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:15,000 Speaker 1: into it's do it all right? So this is January 2284 01:51:15,040 --> 01:51:18,200 Speaker 1: twenty second, twenty twenty four, So this this is like 2285 01:51:18,520 --> 01:51:21,400 Speaker 1: a few days ago, less than a week ago. That's right, 2286 01:51:22,160 --> 01:51:26,639 Speaker 1: Kitty B Hello, hello to you as well. I showed 2287 01:51:26,680 --> 01:51:29,800 Speaker 1: my brother the post after apologizing for my mistake, and 2288 01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:33,519 Speaker 1: mostly he laughed but was baffled at the hostel applies. 2289 01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:36,240 Speaker 1: My brother and future sister in law are fine. My 2290 01:51:36,240 --> 01:51:38,640 Speaker 1: future sister in law actually approached me privately and let 2291 01:51:38,720 --> 01:51:41,360 Speaker 1: me know she was happy to have the conversation now 2292 01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:44,800 Speaker 1: with my brother versus later. She did say it was 2293 01:51:44,840 --> 01:51:47,240 Speaker 1: a shock when he told her his sexual history, but 2294 01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:50,400 Speaker 1: at that point I excuse myself out of the conversation 2295 01:51:50,479 --> 01:51:52,679 Speaker 1: and let her know I would not be having any 2296 01:51:52,680 --> 01:51:55,679 Speaker 1: discussions about my brother's sexual history from here on out. 2297 01:51:56,040 --> 01:51:58,800 Speaker 1: My brother is not plotting his revenge like commenters and 2298 01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:02,679 Speaker 1: messengers implied. Damn Rudd. It isn't really going after people's 2299 01:52:02,720 --> 01:52:03,519 Speaker 1: throats here. 2300 01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:04,679 Speaker 2: Goodness, jeez. 2301 01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:08,320 Speaker 1: He understands that although this was not in my court 2302 01:52:08,479 --> 01:52:11,160 Speaker 1: to say, he probably shouldn't have waved it off at 2303 01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:14,400 Speaker 1: the early stages of their relationship like he had done. Yes, 2304 01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:17,160 Speaker 1: brother and future system in law are still together. To 2305 01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:23,320 Speaker 1: the internet psychologists who diagnosed me with psychopathy and narcissism, 2306 01:52:23,760 --> 01:52:28,120 Speaker 1: you should consider touching some grass Ooh, I love terms 2307 01:52:28,400 --> 01:52:30,280 Speaker 1: for what it's worth. I also got a lot of 2308 01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:33,479 Speaker 1: messages telling me that they wished sexual history was discussed 2309 01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:36,040 Speaker 1: in greater detail with their partners prior to marriage. But 2310 01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:37,519 Speaker 1: I think is what we're talking about, like we're talking 2311 01:52:37,520 --> 01:52:41,360 Speaker 1: about transparency. Yes, take that as you will. I also 2312 01:52:41,400 --> 01:52:45,160 Speaker 1: got messages that were pretty explicit and in the opposite direction. 2313 01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:48,040 Speaker 1: For those who try to imply my brother and I 2314 01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:52,479 Speaker 1: have an incestuous relationship. Oh dear, please close those corn 2315 01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:55,679 Speaker 1: tabs and wipe the cheeto dust off your fingers. Something 2316 01:52:55,720 --> 01:52:58,799 Speaker 1: I didn't mention was that I was a college athlete myself, 2317 01:52:59,040 --> 01:53:01,840 Speaker 1: and word travel fast in those groups. I'm close enough 2318 01:53:01,880 --> 01:53:03,759 Speaker 1: to my brother to ask if he was being safe 2319 01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:07,000 Speaker 1: with his choices, and that's how I know about his 2320 01:53:07,120 --> 01:53:11,720 Speaker 1: sexual past. And there is another relevant comments. But what 2321 01:53:11,800 --> 01:53:14,400 Speaker 1: do you think? Do you think uh opie and the 2322 01:53:14,439 --> 01:53:15,479 Speaker 1: brother are too close? 2323 01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:16,000 Speaker 2: Uh? 2324 01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:19,520 Speaker 1: Do you agree with these Reddit Internet psychologists? 2325 01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:20,760 Speaker 2: What do you think, you know. 2326 01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:22,760 Speaker 3: I think by the mere fact of her wanting to 2327 01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:26,680 Speaker 3: back out of these body count conversations, it's clearly no. 2328 01:53:26,720 --> 01:53:27,200 Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. 2329 01:53:27,320 --> 01:53:30,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no nothing's going on here. It's this is 2330 01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:34,040 Speaker 3: just what it is like brothers and sisters. 2331 01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:39,160 Speaker 1: Really, I'm not asking my sister about her body count 2332 01:53:39,320 --> 01:53:43,519 Speaker 1: for sure, but actually, should we have Sophia swap out 2333 01:53:43,640 --> 01:53:46,559 Speaker 1: for you if you wanted to eat and pee and 2334 01:53:46,600 --> 01:53:48,800 Speaker 1: then we can keep going and then you can swap 2335 01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:49,360 Speaker 1: back in for me. 2336 01:53:49,680 --> 01:53:50,639 Speaker 2: We we can do that. 2337 01:53:50,720 --> 01:53:51,360 Speaker 1: We want to do that. 2338 01:53:51,439 --> 01:53:53,040 Speaker 2: We can bring Sophia in on the mat. 2339 01:53:53,160 --> 01:53:56,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, comment Sophia if you want Sophia to come in 2340 01:53:57,000 --> 01:53:59,320 Speaker 1: the chat, and then Riley maybe tex Sofia to come 2341 01:53:59,320 --> 01:54:03,080 Speaker 1: on up here and I can read this relevant comment 2342 01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:06,080 Speaker 1: while it is coming up. But I'll also read some 2343 01:54:06,120 --> 01:54:10,240 Speaker 1: of your relevant comments. Lady Hike says, Geez, reddit incests 2344 01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:13,559 Speaker 1: they seem fine. Yeah. Reddit tends to jump to the 2345 01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:18,040 Speaker 1: like craziest collusions possible, the most and we do have 2346 01:54:18,680 --> 01:54:22,080 Speaker 1: a bunch more stories for y'all, So keep staying tune. 2347 01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:25,639 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read this relevant comment. Please help thirty three 2348 01:54:25,880 --> 01:54:28,519 Speaker 1: So you got all pissy that you were rightly judged 2349 01:54:28,720 --> 01:54:31,280 Speaker 1: the a hole in your previous posts. So now you've 2350 01:54:31,320 --> 01:54:35,640 Speaker 1: posted again attacking the commenters again. You're the a hole. 2351 01:54:35,800 --> 01:54:40,400 Speaker 1: Damn Reddit, You're really leave up? He says. I'm not pissy. 2352 01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:43,440 Speaker 1: I take responsibility for my part and was the a 2353 01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:45,960 Speaker 1: hole in that situation, no doubt about it. I post 2354 01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:48,720 Speaker 1: this update because it was suggested by a few that 2355 01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:51,520 Speaker 1: I do, and a lot of folks were making assumptions 2356 01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:59,600 Speaker 1: that I ruined his relationship. Dude, Reddit is Reddit is rough? Dude, 2357 01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:04,200 Speaker 1: hey do the most Reddit is rough? But yeah, yeah, 2358 01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:10,200 Speaker 1: soriah Jade Uh says, Reddy gets so spicy sometimes. Robert 2359 01:55:10,200 --> 01:55:11,680 Speaker 1: Smart says, I just want to say this is kind 2360 01:55:11,680 --> 01:55:14,400 Speaker 1: of cool. I've never been in the comments of a 2361 01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:17,080 Speaker 1: live video where the readers interacting with the comments, and 2362 01:55:17,120 --> 01:55:20,000 Speaker 1: it's one of my favorite channels. Thanks y'all, Oh, thank 2363 01:55:20,040 --> 01:55:22,840 Speaker 1: you so much. We heart you too. Does Sophia know 2364 01:55:22,920 --> 01:55:30,440 Speaker 1: to come up yet, Riley, Sophia, they're chanting Queen Sophia. 2365 01:55:30,520 --> 01:55:35,520 Speaker 1: Sophia says, bring out, Sophia, Sophia, get over here. We're 2366 01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:40,120 Speaker 1: gonna get into this next story in a sec. But 2367 01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:43,440 Speaker 1: this is uh, should I read the title? While we're 2368 01:55:43,480 --> 01:55:47,320 Speaker 1: waiting for Sophia to come in. 2369 01:55:47,600 --> 01:55:48,040 Speaker 2: Let's do it. 2370 01:55:48,120 --> 01:55:52,800 Speaker 1: Let's do it. Okay, are you ready? My wife booked 2371 01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:58,880 Speaker 1: our anniversary trip without me? Shall we do it? 2372 01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:01,120 Speaker 2: Wife booked a trip with out? 2373 01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:04,600 Speaker 1: My wife booked my anniversary trip without me? Is that 2374 01:56:05,720 --> 01:56:06,480 Speaker 1: a red flag? 2375 01:56:06,920 --> 01:56:09,080 Speaker 3: Who else are you booking it with? Are you booking 2376 01:56:09,080 --> 01:56:12,400 Speaker 3: it without me and with somebody else? I feel like 2377 01:56:12,520 --> 01:56:15,120 Speaker 3: most likely? I feel like most likely. 2378 01:56:15,200 --> 01:56:16,640 Speaker 2: That's what it sounded like. 2379 01:56:17,400 --> 01:56:22,520 Speaker 1: This comes from big Apple parade. All right, So Riley 2380 01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:26,160 Speaker 1: is just pulling up it right here. Yeah, Limester says 2381 01:56:26,200 --> 01:56:30,440 Speaker 1: this is already bad. Yeah, it feels pretty bad. It 2382 01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:31,200 Speaker 1: feels pretty bad. 2383 01:56:31,240 --> 01:56:34,680 Speaker 2: I'm seeing a lot of red flags. Red flags in 2384 01:56:34,760 --> 01:56:35,160 Speaker 2: a chat. 2385 01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:40,720 Speaker 1: All right, let's get going into this. So my wife 2386 01:56:40,760 --> 01:56:44,480 Speaker 1: posted a question about this somewhere on reddits maybe here, 2387 01:56:44,520 --> 01:56:46,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, and now I can't find it. First 2388 01:56:46,440 --> 01:56:50,280 Speaker 1: time using reddit welcome, heyoh. She posted about me not 2389 01:56:50,360 --> 01:56:52,839 Speaker 1: wanting to go on an anniversary trip that she had planned. 2390 01:56:53,080 --> 01:56:56,200 Speaker 1: She showed me the responses, and some said I was 2391 01:56:56,400 --> 01:56:58,840 Speaker 1: checked out of the marriage. A lot of them said 2392 01:56:59,240 --> 01:57:01,880 Speaker 1: just to book the trip anyways, and I'd get over it. 2393 01:57:02,520 --> 01:57:05,120 Speaker 1: After she showed me the responses, we try to talk 2394 01:57:05,160 --> 01:57:07,360 Speaker 1: it out, but she was mad that I couldn't give 2395 01:57:07,360 --> 01:57:11,400 Speaker 1: her a valid reason for not wanting to go. And 2396 01:57:12,040 --> 01:57:15,880 Speaker 1: Sophia don't want to hop in the chair. Yeah, so 2397 01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:19,080 Speaker 1: John and I can eat. Yeah, I get in. Sophia's 2398 01:57:19,160 --> 01:57:26,280 Speaker 1: coming in. Okay, So Sophia, the question is infidel? My 2399 01:57:26,360 --> 01:57:29,600 Speaker 1: wife booked our anniversary trip without me? Is that a 2400 01:57:29,640 --> 01:57:30,960 Speaker 1: red flag? 2401 01:57:31,480 --> 01:57:31,720 Speaker 4: What? 2402 01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:34,840 Speaker 1: Wait? Yeah, my wife booked an anniversary trip without me? 2403 01:57:34,880 --> 01:57:35,560 Speaker 1: Is that a red flag? 2404 01:57:35,720 --> 01:57:40,240 Speaker 4: Yes, anniversary of the relationship. Presumably that's weird. 2405 01:57:40,440 --> 01:57:43,080 Speaker 1: So apparently, So to catch you up, the wife posted 2406 01:57:43,240 --> 01:57:45,800 Speaker 1: about him not wanting to go on an anniversary trip 2407 01:57:45,880 --> 01:57:48,080 Speaker 1: that she had planned, and she showed me some of 2408 01:57:48,120 --> 01:57:50,200 Speaker 1: the messages saying I was checked out of the marriage. 2409 01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:54,000 Speaker 1: So now op is being like, all right, time to 2410 01:57:54,080 --> 01:57:58,320 Speaker 1: defend myself and defend my honor. Okay, So after she 2411 01:57:58,400 --> 01:58:00,680 Speaker 1: showed me the messages, we try to talk out, but 2412 01:58:00,720 --> 01:58:03,320 Speaker 1: she was mad that I couldn't give her a valid 2413 01:58:03,360 --> 01:58:05,920 Speaker 1: reason for not wanting to go. Also, tell John that 2414 01:58:05,920 --> 01:58:07,760 Speaker 1: the food is right next to the door, so he 2415 01:58:07,800 --> 01:58:08,600 Speaker 1: doesn't get hungry. 2416 01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:09,240 Speaker 4: I brought it. 2417 01:58:10,760 --> 01:58:12,320 Speaker 1: So she was mad that I couldn't give her a 2418 01:58:12,360 --> 01:58:14,600 Speaker 1: valid reason for not wanting to go. She said she 2419 01:58:14,680 --> 01:58:17,760 Speaker 1: hasn't traveled in over five years, and she was going 2420 01:58:17,960 --> 01:58:20,960 Speaker 1: either way. I kind of thought she'd eventually get over 2421 01:58:21,000 --> 01:58:25,440 Speaker 1: it and forget about the trip. Well she didn't. I 2422 01:58:25,480 --> 01:58:26,520 Speaker 1: don't think she got over it. 2423 01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:29,920 Speaker 4: Hold on before you go on, to just see if 2424 01:58:29,960 --> 01:58:31,760 Speaker 4: I get this way. So they were going to go 2425 01:58:31,800 --> 01:58:33,880 Speaker 4: on an anniversary trip and then the husband was like, 2426 01:58:33,960 --> 01:58:35,320 Speaker 4: I don't op He was like, I don't want to 2427 01:58:35,360 --> 01:58:36,160 Speaker 4: go on anymore, and. 2428 01:58:36,200 --> 01:58:40,560 Speaker 1: Then yes, so yeah, so OPI didn't want to go 2429 01:58:40,600 --> 01:58:41,520 Speaker 1: on the anniversary trip. 2430 01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:42,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2431 01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:46,920 Speaker 1: And then Opee's wife was like, I'm gonna go on 2432 01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:47,680 Speaker 1: it anyway. 2433 01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:50,120 Speaker 4: Okay, I actually kind of I kind of vibe with it. 2434 01:58:50,160 --> 01:58:50,800 Speaker 4: I vibe with that. 2435 01:58:51,240 --> 01:58:54,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I craved Fried trick and says, that's so strange. 2436 01:58:54,520 --> 01:58:57,120 Speaker 1: I thought she went She meant she went alone. 2437 01:58:57,360 --> 01:59:00,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I was confused the first, but I think 2438 01:59:00,480 --> 01:59:01,720 Speaker 4: I'm on the same page. 2439 01:59:02,440 --> 01:59:02,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2440 01:59:02,640 --> 01:59:03,040 Speaker 1: I don't know why. 2441 01:59:03,040 --> 01:59:04,520 Speaker 4: I a piece upset about that, because I feel like, 2442 01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:05,640 Speaker 4: if you if you don't want to go on the 2443 01:59:05,680 --> 01:59:08,720 Speaker 4: relationship or on the trip, too bad. 2444 01:59:09,280 --> 01:59:13,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think she's she's gone yet. Okay, she 2445 01:59:13,720 --> 01:59:15,480 Speaker 1: not hasn't gone yet. So after she showed me the 2446 01:59:15,520 --> 01:59:17,000 Speaker 1: messages we tried to talk about, but she was mad. 2447 01:59:17,000 --> 01:59:19,200 Speaker 1: I couldn't give her a valid reason for not wanting 2448 01:59:19,240 --> 01:59:22,240 Speaker 1: to go. She said she hasn't traveled in over five years, 2449 01:59:22,480 --> 01:59:25,000 Speaker 1: and she was going either way. I kind of thought 2450 01:59:25,000 --> 01:59:27,240 Speaker 1: she'd eventually get over it and forget about the trip. Well, 2451 01:59:27,400 --> 01:59:30,240 Speaker 1: she took Redd's advice and booked the trip anyways, but 2452 01:59:30,280 --> 01:59:32,680 Speaker 1: instead of booking it for the two of us, she 2453 01:59:32,800 --> 01:59:38,680 Speaker 1: booked it for her and a male coworker. Oh yes, 2454 01:59:38,840 --> 01:59:42,440 Speaker 1: a long weekend in the Caribbean with a male co worker. 2455 01:59:42,480 --> 01:59:44,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna pause right here. Is this a red flag? 2456 01:59:46,320 --> 01:59:49,080 Speaker 4: It could be, okay. I don't think that going on 2457 01:59:49,120 --> 01:59:50,600 Speaker 4: the anniversary trip is a red flag. 2458 01:59:50,640 --> 01:59:53,080 Speaker 1: I think that I think going on the anniversary tip 2459 01:59:53,120 --> 01:59:53,920 Speaker 1: solo is it's. 2460 01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:56,240 Speaker 4: Just a trip. At that point, it's just a trip, 2461 01:59:56,360 --> 01:59:57,960 Speaker 4: and she hasn't gone on a trip and she wants 2462 01:59:57,960 --> 02:00:01,640 Speaker 4: to go on a ship. I don't know about inviting. 2463 02:00:02,400 --> 02:00:06,120 Speaker 1: A male coworker that it feels like revenge. It feels 2464 02:00:06,120 --> 02:00:08,440 Speaker 1: like revenge. Let us know in the chat if you 2465 02:00:08,440 --> 02:00:12,919 Speaker 1: feel like it's revenge. It feels a little bit like revenge. Lady, yeah, Zodiac, 2466 02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:16,840 Speaker 1: says Major Red Elena says yes, Kim quant red fog, 2467 02:00:16,840 --> 02:00:20,520 Speaker 1: red five, red fag, red flag, fergolicious, great name, red flag, 2468 02:00:20,640 --> 02:00:24,040 Speaker 1: but living for the pettiness. We are too, And so 2469 02:00:24,120 --> 02:00:26,240 Speaker 1: we're going to get into this next bit. I asked 2470 02:00:26,280 --> 02:00:28,440 Speaker 1: her if anything was going on between them, and she 2471 02:00:28,520 --> 02:00:29,200 Speaker 1: said no. 2472 02:00:30,720 --> 02:00:31,520 Speaker 4: Why did you think that? 2473 02:00:32,000 --> 02:00:33,920 Speaker 1: I had no reason to believe she would cheat on 2474 02:00:34,000 --> 02:00:37,120 Speaker 1: me until today, which she is clearly going to do 2475 02:00:37,160 --> 02:00:40,080 Speaker 1: if she goes to resort with him. Oh that's that's 2476 02:00:40,120 --> 02:00:41,680 Speaker 1: a little Maybe that's a little much. 2477 02:00:41,720 --> 02:00:42,560 Speaker 4: Maybe that's a jump. 2478 02:00:42,720 --> 02:00:44,680 Speaker 1: She's a good looking woman, but she has been very 2479 02:00:44,720 --> 02:00:47,000 Speaker 1: loyal for the past ten years. I am shocked. What 2480 02:00:47,040 --> 02:00:49,160 Speaker 1: should I do? How can I fix this? She thought 2481 02:00:49,200 --> 02:00:50,960 Speaker 1: I was checked out of the marriage, but it's clear 2482 02:00:51,400 --> 02:00:53,800 Speaker 1: she's the one giving up. Do you think like this? 2483 02:00:54,120 --> 02:00:57,960 Speaker 1: Do you think her going on a on a all 2484 02:00:58,120 --> 02:01:03,960 Speaker 1: you know, Caribbean, a Caribbean vacation that established Yes, yeah, yeah, 2485 02:01:03,960 --> 02:01:08,240 Speaker 1: so there, so she is she booked a Caribbean long 2486 02:01:08,320 --> 02:01:10,680 Speaker 1: weekend in the Caribbean with a male coworker. 2487 02:01:11,160 --> 02:01:12,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think that. 2488 02:01:12,400 --> 02:01:14,640 Speaker 1: You think it's like that it's almost positive that they're 2489 02:01:14,640 --> 02:01:15,240 Speaker 1: going to hook up. 2490 02:01:15,720 --> 02:01:18,800 Speaker 4: No, No, I don't think that's a positive. I think 2491 02:01:18,800 --> 02:01:21,240 Speaker 4: it could happen. I think it's a little bit like 2492 02:01:21,280 --> 02:01:24,280 Speaker 4: I don't know if as partner would be super comfortable. 2493 02:01:24,080 --> 02:01:25,120 Speaker 1: I would not be comfortable. 2494 02:01:25,360 --> 02:01:28,840 Speaker 4: But after after establishing that this was originally going to 2495 02:01:28,880 --> 02:01:31,480 Speaker 4: be an anniversary trip and now it's just a trip trip. 2496 02:01:32,080 --> 02:01:35,360 Speaker 1: But I feel but I feel like the doing it 2497 02:01:35,400 --> 02:01:37,720 Speaker 1: with a male coworker is revenge. Even if they don't 2498 02:01:37,720 --> 02:01:38,120 Speaker 1: hook up. 2499 02:01:38,160 --> 02:01:40,919 Speaker 4: I don't think they're going to hook up. But well, okay, 2500 02:01:40,760 --> 02:01:41,120 Speaker 4: so what. 2501 02:01:41,080 --> 02:01:45,800 Speaker 1: They're staying in the same room, All right, Well, let's 2502 02:01:45,800 --> 02:01:48,160 Speaker 1: see it's out. I don't want to go because it's 2503 02:01:48,160 --> 02:01:50,440 Speaker 1: a long weekend in Canada and I'd rather just hang 2504 02:01:50,440 --> 02:01:53,560 Speaker 1: out at my cabin. Also, she arranged childcare. Oh, they 2505 02:01:53,600 --> 02:01:55,720 Speaker 1: have kids, but this way we won't have to worry 2506 02:01:55,720 --> 02:01:58,800 Speaker 1: about having someone watch the kids. The coworker, I don't 2507 02:01:58,800 --> 02:02:01,120 Speaker 1: know anything about him. She never talks about work. She 2508 02:02:01,120 --> 02:02:04,040 Speaker 1: goes to work and comes right back home. Or she's 2509 02:02:04,080 --> 02:02:06,160 Speaker 1: not at work. Yeah the coworker, Oh. 2510 02:02:06,040 --> 02:02:08,960 Speaker 4: No, no, like, oh, he should ask questions about her life. 2511 02:02:09,080 --> 02:02:10,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you should know about the co workers. 2512 02:02:11,000 --> 02:02:12,120 Speaker 4: She should know about her work. 2513 02:02:12,560 --> 02:02:14,800 Speaker 1: But she's not at work. She's with the kids and 2514 02:02:14,920 --> 02:02:16,680 Speaker 1: is never on her phone. So if she's having a 2515 02:02:16,760 --> 02:02:20,040 Speaker 1: fair she's really darn good at hiding it. So we're 2516 02:02:20,040 --> 02:02:23,120 Speaker 1: gonna get into the top comments and an update. But 2517 02:02:23,200 --> 02:02:23,640 Speaker 1: what do you think? 2518 02:02:23,800 --> 02:02:25,880 Speaker 4: I feel like their relationship is not very good on 2519 02:02:25,960 --> 02:02:29,200 Speaker 4: both sides. Like I mean, again, I don't really know 2520 02:02:29,200 --> 02:02:31,760 Speaker 4: what happened in the first half of the story. 2521 02:02:33,200 --> 02:02:34,800 Speaker 1: You came close to the beginning. 2522 02:02:34,680 --> 02:02:37,600 Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, then I guess I do, but it seems 2523 02:02:37,640 --> 02:02:38,960 Speaker 4: like they don't trust each other. 2524 02:02:39,920 --> 02:02:42,720 Speaker 1: And yeah, it feels I mean, if this. 2525 02:02:42,840 --> 02:02:44,760 Speaker 4: Is a revenge thing, then that's also not like a 2526 02:02:44,840 --> 02:02:45,720 Speaker 4: health needs. 2527 02:02:45,480 --> 02:02:47,320 Speaker 1: To be a revenge thing, right for health? I don't 2528 02:02:47,320 --> 02:02:49,640 Speaker 1: know it has to be a revenge thing because like, 2529 02:02:49,680 --> 02:02:51,520 Speaker 1: I mean, why would she do that? I don't know. 2530 02:02:51,520 --> 02:02:53,320 Speaker 1: What do you guys think it's a revenge thing? We'll 2531 02:02:53,360 --> 02:02:55,680 Speaker 1: lead some of the comments as Stella Davis says, I 2532 02:02:55,720 --> 02:03:00,320 Speaker 1: love kids, but I wouldn't want them on my anniversary trip. Yeah, oh, 2533 02:03:00,600 --> 02:03:02,680 Speaker 1: groovy hippie chick says is the coworker game. 2534 02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:04,720 Speaker 4: I was, That's what I was thinking, because I think 2535 02:03:04,720 --> 02:03:07,960 Speaker 4: that does death that change everything? That changes things, because 2536 02:03:07,960 --> 02:03:10,240 Speaker 4: that's like, oh we're best he's gone on a trip. 2537 02:03:10,360 --> 02:03:11,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. 2538 02:03:11,520 --> 02:03:13,560 Speaker 4: I was thinking about but shouldn't. 2539 02:03:13,120 --> 02:03:14,680 Speaker 1: They kind of like, if they're going to do an 2540 02:03:14,720 --> 02:03:17,240 Speaker 1: anniversary thing, shouldn't they kind of like agree on something 2541 02:03:17,240 --> 02:03:18,360 Speaker 1: that they both would want to do? 2542 02:03:20,480 --> 02:03:21,040 Speaker 4: Yeah? 2543 02:03:21,200 --> 02:03:22,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, but what do you mean? 2544 02:03:22,440 --> 02:03:22,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? 2545 02:03:23,200 --> 02:03:26,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, I mean, who, like, you don't book 2546 02:03:26,400 --> 02:03:29,520 Speaker 1: an anniversary trip for yourself, you you decide together on something. 2547 02:03:29,680 --> 02:03:34,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. I guess is the trip like coinciding 2548 02:03:34,320 --> 02:03:38,240 Speaker 4: exactly with the anniversary? Yes, okay, that's I don't know. 2549 02:03:38,320 --> 02:03:42,240 Speaker 1: Is it a red flag? Ben on the Move says, 2550 02:03:42,320 --> 02:03:45,560 Speaker 1: I think it's revenge. Janey Jackson says are they in 2551 02:03:45,600 --> 02:03:48,280 Speaker 1: an open relationship? I don't think so. There's no mention 2552 02:03:48,320 --> 02:03:51,560 Speaker 1: of that. And Sarah Badov says he's trying to save money. 2553 02:03:51,680 --> 02:03:54,360 Speaker 1: Do you know how much a cabin slash second house costs? 2554 02:03:54,360 --> 02:03:59,600 Speaker 1: Here's here, Canada. Yeah, they're in Canada. Okay, so top 2555 02:03:59,640 --> 02:04:03,840 Speaker 1: comment Overrated New four to two three said why would 2556 02:04:03,920 --> 02:04:05,800 Speaker 1: you not want to go on a romantic trip with 2557 02:04:05,840 --> 02:04:06,400 Speaker 1: your wife? 2558 02:04:06,720 --> 02:04:08,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? That's what I was thinking. I'm like, why wouldn't 2559 02:04:08,600 --> 02:04:10,400 Speaker 4: you want to go on a fun little adventure. 2560 02:04:10,520 --> 02:04:11,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe a homebody? 2561 02:04:12,320 --> 02:04:12,680 Speaker 4: Maybe. 2562 02:04:13,400 --> 02:04:16,600 Speaker 1: Bodacious Shield says he'd rather sit around his cabin doing 2563 02:04:16,640 --> 02:04:19,920 Speaker 1: nothing apparently, while I wonder why his wife is losing 2564 02:04:19,920 --> 02:04:22,760 Speaker 1: interest in this marriage, and Bella Burr says, your wife 2565 02:04:22,840 --> 02:04:25,280 Speaker 1: brought up a want to you, You didn't listen, ignored 2566 02:04:25,320 --> 02:04:27,640 Speaker 1: her and couldn't explain to her why you can't meet her, 2567 02:04:27,960 --> 02:04:31,280 Speaker 1: and and are shocked she is checking out of the marriage. 2568 02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:33,080 Speaker 4: Wow, they really read him. 2569 02:04:33,200 --> 02:04:35,120 Speaker 1: They really they tore me to pieces. I mean, I 2570 02:04:35,160 --> 02:04:37,960 Speaker 1: think I think there's blame on both sides. Like you said, 2571 02:04:38,000 --> 02:04:39,560 Speaker 1: I think they're not communicating with each other. 2572 02:04:39,640 --> 02:04:41,120 Speaker 4: But yeah, I think it's not a great r. 2573 02:04:41,360 --> 02:04:42,960 Speaker 1: What do you think? Who I mean? Do you think 2574 02:04:43,000 --> 02:04:45,120 Speaker 1: they're both the blame? Do you think only one of them? 2575 02:04:46,280 --> 02:04:49,120 Speaker 1: Sarah Jade says these two need some damn therapy. 2576 02:04:49,960 --> 02:04:52,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, therapy, therapy, therapy, chant. 2577 02:04:52,680 --> 02:05:01,320 Speaker 1: Their therapy therapy therapy. Oh sorry, I was getting up 2578 02:05:01,640 --> 02:05:04,800 Speaker 1: all right, anyway, let's get into the update. I'm really 2579 02:05:04,840 --> 02:05:08,960 Speaker 1: embarrassed about all of this. A few things. My husband 2580 02:05:09,160 --> 02:05:12,600 Speaker 1: doesn't use social media. I'm surprised he made a Reddit 2581 02:05:12,600 --> 02:05:15,440 Speaker 1: account at all. Oh whoa, whoa. This is from the 2582 02:05:15,440 --> 02:05:21,120 Speaker 1: wife's perspective. Whoa I was so uh op posted on 2583 02:05:21,200 --> 02:05:25,280 Speaker 1: January twenty second, Which is the husband The wife posted 2584 02:05:25,320 --> 02:05:27,760 Speaker 1: on January twenty third. The next day. 2585 02:05:28,560 --> 02:05:29,400 Speaker 4: That's crazy. 2586 02:05:29,640 --> 02:05:31,840 Speaker 1: This is kind of cute. I don't know. It's like 2587 02:05:31,840 --> 02:05:36,880 Speaker 1: they're setting letters. Did they pronounce o pina coladas like 2588 02:05:37,160 --> 02:05:40,440 Speaker 1: pina escape? Yeah, they're like like, this is like the 2589 02:05:40,560 --> 02:05:44,720 Speaker 1: new version of writing letters to each other in the newspaper. 2590 02:05:44,800 --> 02:05:48,040 Speaker 1: They're to read it together. Shit, all right, we're about 2591 02:05:48,040 --> 02:05:50,440 Speaker 1: to get some tea, y'all. Put some tea in the chatter. 2592 02:05:50,520 --> 02:05:54,400 Speaker 1: You're excited a trick. So One, my husband doesn't use 2593 02:05:54,440 --> 02:05:58,240 Speaker 1: social media. I'm surprised he made a Reddit account at all. Obviously, 2594 02:05:58,240 --> 02:06:00,840 Speaker 1: you guys don't know each other very well, dedicating Yeah. 2595 02:06:00,960 --> 02:06:03,440 Speaker 1: When I saw the post, I confronted him about it. 2596 02:06:03,520 --> 02:06:06,200 Speaker 1: He said he made the post to prove a point, 2597 02:06:06,400 --> 02:06:10,880 Speaker 1: but clearly stop reading the responses early on, because I 2598 02:06:10,880 --> 02:06:12,880 Speaker 1: guess he didn't see all the backlast Oh. 2599 02:06:12,840 --> 02:06:14,240 Speaker 4: I thought I thought it was going to be that 2600 02:06:14,280 --> 02:06:16,520 Speaker 4: she like posted something in the responci. 2601 02:06:16,560 --> 02:06:18,920 Speaker 1: Oh No, I don't think so. Two. I only made 2602 02:06:18,920 --> 02:06:21,600 Speaker 1: my initial post to try to show him that wanting 2603 02:06:21,640 --> 02:06:24,920 Speaker 1: to go on a ten year anniversary trip wasn't asking 2604 02:06:24,960 --> 02:06:27,640 Speaker 1: a lot. I deleted the post because I was embarrassed 2605 02:06:27,640 --> 02:06:30,960 Speaker 1: he didn't want to travel with me. I know, I know, 2606 02:06:31,800 --> 02:06:34,360 Speaker 1: I know now not to get marriage advice from Reddit 2607 02:06:34,680 --> 02:06:37,360 Speaker 1: of all places, but I always like to hear other 2608 02:06:37,440 --> 02:06:38,480 Speaker 1: people's point of view. 2609 02:06:38,600 --> 02:06:40,080 Speaker 4: Get your marriage advice from us. 2610 02:06:40,120 --> 02:06:43,120 Speaker 1: And three, this is what we've all been waiting for. 2611 02:06:43,280 --> 02:06:48,840 Speaker 1: My coworker is gay. My husband knows that husband was 2612 02:06:48,880 --> 02:06:52,240 Speaker 1: intentionally uh not giving that information. 2613 02:06:52,320 --> 02:06:54,840 Speaker 4: This is what he said. First of all, he said that, oh, 2614 02:06:54,880 --> 02:06:58,000 Speaker 4: I don't know anything about my wife's coworker or anything 2615 02:06:58,040 --> 02:06:58,680 Speaker 4: about her jobs. 2616 02:06:58,760 --> 02:07:00,240 Speaker 1: He's trying to paint the wife as bad. 2617 02:07:00,360 --> 02:07:02,360 Speaker 4: And then he was like, they're definitely good at cheat. 2618 02:07:02,440 --> 02:07:04,520 Speaker 4: He literally seems like they're absolutely good cheat. 2619 02:07:07,480 --> 02:07:08,840 Speaker 1: What what Riley? 2620 02:07:09,200 --> 02:07:12,240 Speaker 5: What about what if he's what if it's an act 2621 02:07:12,840 --> 02:07:16,720 Speaker 5: he's actually not gay? You know how like like they'll 2622 02:07:16,760 --> 02:07:18,920 Speaker 5: be like, oh, I'm gay, invite me to the sleepover, 2623 02:07:19,800 --> 02:07:21,080 Speaker 5: the sleepover, the trip. 2624 02:07:23,160 --> 02:07:25,400 Speaker 1: Maybe, I don't know. Do you think this is the 2625 02:07:25,520 --> 02:07:27,280 Speaker 1: long con from? 2626 02:07:27,600 --> 02:07:27,720 Speaker 2: Uh? 2627 02:07:28,480 --> 02:07:33,040 Speaker 1: Now, op, the wife gay coworker is actually straight and 2628 02:07:33,200 --> 02:07:35,640 Speaker 1: is in this for the long that that that is? 2629 02:07:36,160 --> 02:07:38,960 Speaker 1: That is a conspiracy if I've ever heard that is 2630 02:07:39,000 --> 02:07:41,400 Speaker 1: a conspiracy if I ever heard one. I don't know 2631 02:07:41,560 --> 02:07:45,800 Speaker 1: if I completely agree, but uh stella Davis, says Riley 2632 02:07:45,800 --> 02:07:47,760 Speaker 1: do not be a Jesse. The Jesse was from the 2633 02:07:47,800 --> 02:07:52,600 Speaker 1: first story who was super manipulative. Yeah, do not be 2634 02:07:52,640 --> 02:07:58,480 Speaker 1: a Jesse or what was it, Miley, what's her name, Mindy, Mindy, 2635 02:07:58,640 --> 02:07:59,880 Speaker 1: don't be a Jesse or a. 2636 02:07:59,800 --> 02:08:03,440 Speaker 4: Min Yeah, I agree, Sydney, I can't Durand. 2637 02:08:03,160 --> 02:08:04,360 Speaker 1: Again, no one actually does that. 2638 02:08:04,440 --> 02:08:05,400 Speaker 4: No one actually does that. 2639 02:08:05,400 --> 02:08:07,440 Speaker 1: That's like a that's just like a trope from like 2640 02:08:07,560 --> 02:08:11,440 Speaker 1: bad eighties movies. Yeah, but hey, that's why we were 2641 02:08:11,440 --> 02:08:16,120 Speaker 1: putting the conspiracy hats on, So let's keep going. My 2642 02:08:16,200 --> 02:08:19,200 Speaker 1: husband knows that I've known him for four years and 2643 02:08:19,280 --> 02:08:23,760 Speaker 1: talk about him all the time. He paid his own 2644 02:08:23,800 --> 02:08:26,080 Speaker 1: way and is only going because none of my friends 2645 02:08:26,160 --> 02:08:28,880 Speaker 1: could go mom life and wanted to check out the 2646 02:08:28,960 --> 02:08:32,440 Speaker 1: island as he's getting married there next fall to another man. 2647 02:08:32,720 --> 02:08:36,000 Speaker 4: So not only is this man gay, but he's in 2648 02:08:36,040 --> 02:08:37,000 Speaker 4: a relationship. 2649 02:08:37,440 --> 02:08:39,800 Speaker 1: My husband doesn't want me traveling with some guy he 2650 02:08:39,880 --> 02:08:41,840 Speaker 1: never met, but none of my girlfriends could go, and 2651 02:08:41,840 --> 02:08:45,520 Speaker 1: I didn't want to go alone. Four I'm standing firm 2652 02:08:45,520 --> 02:08:47,880 Speaker 1: that I need a vacation. Yes, I wanted a ten 2653 02:08:47,960 --> 02:08:50,600 Speaker 1: year anniversary vacation to our honeymoon spot, and I'm really 2654 02:08:50,640 --> 02:08:53,920 Speaker 1: sad it's not happening. It's been five years since my 2655 02:08:54,000 --> 02:08:56,760 Speaker 1: last vacation, and that was a visit family, So really 2656 02:08:56,800 --> 02:09:00,000 Speaker 1: seven years since my last fun vacation. I've had two kids, 2657 02:09:00,120 --> 02:09:02,880 Speaker 1: survived a pandemic, and work my butt off to get 2658 02:09:02,880 --> 02:09:06,080 Speaker 1: an executive level job. I'm getting the hell out of 2659 02:09:06,080 --> 02:09:07,960 Speaker 1: here for a few days. It's only a few days. 2660 02:09:08,040 --> 02:09:11,000 Speaker 4: It's only a few days in op or old op. 2661 02:09:11,800 --> 02:09:15,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, like, I love how this update just completely 2662 02:09:16,440 --> 02:09:18,640 Speaker 1: trashes the initial ops. 2663 02:09:18,640 --> 02:09:20,960 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well, I feel like most people in the 2664 02:09:20,960 --> 02:09:24,600 Speaker 4: comments of the original post kind of called trash him too. 2665 02:09:24,800 --> 02:09:25,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2666 02:09:25,600 --> 02:09:27,880 Speaker 1: Five, What the F is this about him wanting to 2667 02:09:27,880 --> 02:09:29,880 Speaker 1: go to his cabin? He never told me that. Plus 2668 02:09:29,920 --> 02:09:32,200 Speaker 1: he goes there at least eight times a year. I 2669 02:09:32,240 --> 02:09:34,839 Speaker 1: asked him about that and he said that it's because 2670 02:09:34,960 --> 02:09:37,440 Speaker 1: it's because he enjoys doing that, and he didn't want 2671 02:09:37,480 --> 02:09:40,040 Speaker 1: to tell me because I would make him feel bad. Anyway, 2672 02:09:40,040 --> 02:09:43,880 Speaker 1: this whole thing is embarrassing. We'll probably delete this post later, 2673 02:09:44,240 --> 02:09:47,160 Speaker 1: and there are some top comments, but damn if this 2674 02:09:47,320 --> 02:09:50,880 Speaker 1: is an addition your private relation to the whole group 2675 02:09:50,920 --> 02:09:53,560 Speaker 1: of people, I don't know what is Yeah, getting this 2676 02:09:53,600 --> 02:09:56,520 Speaker 1: is public fighting taken to a whole new level. Yeah, 2677 02:09:56,600 --> 02:09:58,839 Speaker 1: do you have a comment that you left at Oh. 2678 02:09:58,720 --> 02:10:00,800 Speaker 4: No, I was just laughing at the relationship. 2679 02:10:00,960 --> 02:10:07,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah. Kim Quant says divorce, divorce, divorce, devorse. 2680 02:10:07,880 --> 02:10:13,160 Speaker 1: Gracie Macus says, I've waited for this all week. Schylarra says, 2681 02:10:13,200 --> 02:10:15,680 Speaker 1: oh wow, he really was selective with the truth. 2682 02:10:15,880 --> 02:10:18,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, true, yeah, no, Also, wait did I I don't 2683 02:10:18,920 --> 02:10:20,680 Speaker 4: know if I understood this correctly, but he was going 2684 02:10:20,680 --> 02:10:22,320 Speaker 4: to a cabin and he wasn't telling her. 2685 02:10:23,080 --> 02:10:24,880 Speaker 1: I think he just wanted to go to a cabin 2686 02:10:25,040 --> 02:10:26,920 Speaker 1: instead of going like he goes to a cabin all 2687 02:10:26,920 --> 02:10:29,040 Speaker 1: the time. He's like, I'd rather go to the cabin 2688 02:10:29,400 --> 02:10:33,000 Speaker 1: than like go on an anniversary trip. He sounds selfish 2689 02:10:33,000 --> 02:10:33,200 Speaker 1: on it. 2690 02:10:33,360 --> 02:10:35,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, He's like, well that's not what I want to do, 2691 02:10:35,960 --> 02:10:38,520 Speaker 4: so no, Yeah. 2692 02:10:38,280 --> 02:10:41,400 Speaker 1: He sounds selfish. He sounds like he doesn't listen. Yeah, 2693 02:10:41,440 --> 02:10:44,760 Speaker 1: and he sounds like he's being selective with his truths 2694 02:10:44,960 --> 02:10:48,320 Speaker 1: mm hmm. But also maybe y'all instead of like a 2695 02:10:48,400 --> 02:10:50,520 Speaker 1: dishing your stuff out on Reddit, which hey, you know what, 2696 02:10:50,560 --> 02:10:52,000 Speaker 1: I shouldn't be saying that because I'm glad I got 2697 02:10:52,000 --> 02:10:54,080 Speaker 1: to read it, But maybe you should go to a tarrapins. 2698 02:10:54,240 --> 02:10:56,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, why why are we getting both halfs of 2699 02:10:57,000 --> 02:10:58,120 Speaker 4: this marriage? 2700 02:10:58,320 --> 02:11:02,040 Speaker 1: It seems a little Yeah, took a foot one says 2701 02:11:02,040 --> 02:11:03,960 Speaker 1: their lives are not aligned. Yeah, I think so. 2702 02:11:04,160 --> 02:11:06,760 Speaker 4: No, it's like that moon chart trend. 2703 02:11:07,480 --> 02:11:08,320 Speaker 1: What's the moon chart? 2704 02:11:09,000 --> 02:11:09,120 Speaker 2: You know? 2705 02:11:09,240 --> 02:11:13,080 Speaker 1: Like, oh, like it fits your yeah? Yeah yeah. Do 2706 02:11:13,160 --> 02:11:16,800 Speaker 1: people know about the moon art chart trend? Let us 2707 02:11:16,800 --> 02:11:17,120 Speaker 1: know if you do. 2708 02:11:17,280 --> 02:11:19,520 Speaker 4: It was really funny because whenever people posted those videos, 2709 02:11:19,600 --> 02:11:21,800 Speaker 4: they were like, look, we fit perfectly, and it was 2710 02:11:21,880 --> 02:11:25,200 Speaker 4: just overlapping, like it was just the moon. 2711 02:11:25,520 --> 02:11:25,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2712 02:11:26,440 --> 02:11:29,000 Speaker 1: But you know what I want to look at is 2713 02:11:29,000 --> 02:11:32,200 Speaker 1: these top comments. So cart Grinder says, yeah, even his 2714 02:11:32,240 --> 02:11:35,480 Speaker 1: post from his perspective made him look lazy and or selfish. 2715 02:11:35,560 --> 02:11:38,160 Speaker 1: I hope you have a pleasant vacation, ope, and said 2716 02:11:38,520 --> 02:11:40,880 Speaker 1: Lucy says, I knew this guy was gay. I mean 2717 02:11:40,920 --> 02:11:43,240 Speaker 1: I show the other post to my husband and told 2718 02:11:43,320 --> 02:11:45,520 Speaker 1: him that the friend was probably gay, and the husband 2719 02:11:45,520 --> 02:11:48,000 Speaker 1: didn't know. He was like, I know who your gay 2720 02:11:48,000 --> 02:11:51,320 Speaker 1: friends are, and I answered telling him that he liked 2721 02:11:51,360 --> 02:11:54,240 Speaker 1: me and wanted to go a place with me, unlike 2722 02:11:54,280 --> 02:11:56,680 Speaker 1: that guy. I hope you have a great vacation, Ope, 2723 02:11:56,960 --> 02:11:59,720 Speaker 1: and zaf Fodd says, this is the update I've been 2724 02:11:59,760 --> 02:12:02,200 Speaker 1: looking for thank you. I hope you have a really 2725 02:12:02,320 --> 02:12:08,120 Speaker 1: enjoyable solo anniversary trip, which it seems like, oh he 2726 02:12:08,520 --> 02:12:12,400 Speaker 1: will have. But you know what I want you to have, Sofia, this. 2727 02:12:12,440 --> 02:12:14,080 Speaker 4: Next story, this next. 2728 02:12:13,760 --> 02:12:16,600 Speaker 1: Story, we're reading it into it, Sofia is going to 2729 02:12:16,640 --> 02:12:20,680 Speaker 1: be reading. But just look at some comments from y'all. 2730 02:12:20,760 --> 02:12:23,640 Speaker 1: Burning Rose said, never heard of it. Loll the moon, 2731 02:12:23,920 --> 02:12:26,800 Speaker 1: the moon, It's just like a TikTok thing. Yeah, classic 2732 02:12:26,840 --> 02:12:30,600 Speaker 1: TikTok with their TikTok gen Z with their TikTok trends. 2733 02:12:30,960 --> 02:12:35,440 Speaker 1: Tody's young gen Z too. Gracie macisays, get ready chickens. Yeah, 2734 02:12:35,440 --> 02:12:39,040 Speaker 1: we're freaking getting ready for this next story. And Innocent 2735 02:12:39,120 --> 02:12:41,400 Speaker 1: Star says both their posts make it sound like the 2736 02:12:41,480 --> 02:12:44,320 Speaker 1: husband would rather be alone than with his wife. That 2737 02:12:44,600 --> 02:12:48,040 Speaker 1: totally sounds true and he does not sound innocent at all. 2738 02:12:48,040 --> 02:12:50,040 Speaker 1: But Sofia, do you want to hit me with this 2739 02:12:50,080 --> 02:12:50,560 Speaker 1: next story? 2740 02:12:50,640 --> 02:12:52,160 Speaker 4: I do want to hit you with this next story. 2741 02:12:54,040 --> 02:12:56,400 Speaker 4: I found out I was the mistress in college and 2742 02:12:56,480 --> 02:12:58,960 Speaker 4: he wanted to be my sugar daddy. I said no, 2743 02:12:59,120 --> 02:13:01,520 Speaker 4: but kept the motor cycle. Am I the a hole? 2744 02:13:01,640 --> 02:13:07,560 Speaker 1: I love the motorcycle and kept the motorcycle. Oh, Okay, 2745 02:13:07,720 --> 02:13:10,680 Speaker 1: I guess the sugar daddy is like giving motorcycles as 2746 02:13:10,760 --> 02:13:12,360 Speaker 1: a form of sugar daddy payment. 2747 02:13:12,640 --> 02:13:16,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, okay, so yeah, he was like, here's a 2748 02:13:16,840 --> 02:13:19,840 Speaker 4: motorcycle if you'll be my sugar baby. And she was like, no, 2749 02:13:20,640 --> 02:13:21,280 Speaker 4: but I'll take. 2750 02:13:21,240 --> 02:13:22,400 Speaker 1: The motor I'm gonna keep the motors. 2751 02:13:22,480 --> 02:13:23,480 Speaker 4: I'll keep the motorcycle. 2752 02:13:24,160 --> 02:13:25,720 Speaker 1: Not that what you got, what you got for us. 2753 02:13:25,800 --> 02:13:27,160 Speaker 5: Guess where this came from? 2754 02:13:27,360 --> 02:13:30,240 Speaker 1: Oh? Is this an R slash okop show? 2755 02:13:31,560 --> 02:13:31,680 Speaker 2: Yo? 2756 02:13:32,240 --> 02:13:33,560 Speaker 4: I wonder if they're on right now? 2757 02:13:33,640 --> 02:13:35,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? Who does it come from? 2758 02:13:35,360 --> 02:13:35,400 Speaker 2: What? 2759 02:13:35,680 --> 02:13:39,760 Speaker 1: What's the one done? Millennial one done? Millennial one done millennial. 2760 02:13:39,760 --> 02:13:43,000 Speaker 1: If you are in the chat right now, please let 2761 02:13:43,080 --> 02:13:47,680 Speaker 1: us know. Hopefully you're probably watching or listening so or 2762 02:13:47,680 --> 02:13:50,680 Speaker 1: at least at least at a later time. But let's 2763 02:13:50,720 --> 02:13:54,240 Speaker 1: get into it. Let's go. If you want to submit 2764 02:13:54,280 --> 02:13:57,520 Speaker 1: your story, go to our slash Okop show or call 2765 02:13:57,600 --> 02:14:02,040 Speaker 1: us at four for zero five or eight six five. 2766 02:14:01,440 --> 02:14:04,760 Speaker 4: Yep, and let's get to the story. 2767 02:14:04,840 --> 02:14:05,440 Speaker 1: Let's get it. 2768 02:14:06,040 --> 02:14:09,080 Speaker 4: So. I got inspired by the show today to write 2769 02:14:09,120 --> 02:14:11,960 Speaker 4: about this experience from ten years ago. A buckle up. 2770 02:14:12,120 --> 02:14:13,120 Speaker 4: It is a bit long. 2771 02:14:13,200 --> 02:14:15,680 Speaker 1: Everyone, get your buckles. 2772 02:14:16,000 --> 02:14:18,120 Speaker 4: I went to college in a small Asian area. I 2773 02:14:18,160 --> 02:14:20,920 Speaker 4: am from the USA. Funnily enough, I actually moved to 2774 02:14:20,960 --> 02:14:23,160 Speaker 4: that area to be with my high school boyfriend who 2775 02:14:23,200 --> 02:14:26,080 Speaker 4: was from that country, but we broke up my freshman year. 2776 02:14:26,160 --> 02:14:28,600 Speaker 4: Crazy story there too. If you want that story. 2777 02:14:28,440 --> 02:14:28,960 Speaker 1: Later, we do. 2778 02:14:29,520 --> 02:14:31,640 Speaker 4: Anyway, I was in my third year of college, paying 2779 02:14:31,680 --> 02:14:33,720 Speaker 4: my way tutoring English on the side, as it was 2780 02:14:33,760 --> 02:14:36,320 Speaker 4: common way for expat college kids to make money there. 2781 02:14:36,760 --> 02:14:38,560 Speaker 4: I was heading to class one day when a man 2782 02:14:38,680 --> 02:14:41,280 Speaker 4: stopped me. This was not unusual, as many wanted to 2783 02:14:41,280 --> 02:14:43,880 Speaker 4: practice talking English with me as soon as they saw 2784 02:14:43,920 --> 02:14:45,880 Speaker 4: I was foreign. But this was the only But this 2785 02:14:46,040 --> 02:14:48,480 Speaker 4: was only the second time that the person actually wanted 2786 02:14:48,520 --> 02:14:51,040 Speaker 4: my number. I'm not a bad looking person, but I 2787 02:14:51,040 --> 02:14:55,160 Speaker 4: am not thin nor stereotypically attractive. I enjoy weightlifting and 2788 02:14:55,240 --> 02:14:58,800 Speaker 4: martial arts and my one and sixty five centime. Your 2789 02:14:58,840 --> 02:15:01,040 Speaker 4: frame has been able to pick up ninety two kilgrim 2790 02:15:01,840 --> 02:15:04,520 Speaker 4: dad since I was eleven. Oh, you were able to 2791 02:15:04,560 --> 02:15:06,680 Speaker 4: pick up your dad. You're so strong. 2792 02:15:06,880 --> 02:15:11,040 Speaker 1: I think I think op is saying I'm super hitting 2793 02:15:11,040 --> 02:15:11,920 Speaker 1: on her at eleven. 2794 02:15:12,120 --> 02:15:14,400 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, she's saying that. 2795 02:15:15,520 --> 02:15:16,320 Speaker 1: Repeat that line. 2796 02:15:16,400 --> 02:15:19,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. I enjoy weightlifting and martial arts and my one 2797 02:15:19,360 --> 02:15:21,440 Speaker 4: hundred and sixty five cent of you reframe has been 2798 02:15:21,440 --> 02:15:24,120 Speaker 4: able to pick up my ninety two kill gram dad 2799 02:15:24,200 --> 02:15:24,960 Speaker 4: since I was eleven. 2800 02:15:25,000 --> 02:15:26,800 Speaker 2: Oh okay, you're so strong. 2801 02:15:26,800 --> 02:15:29,720 Speaker 1: Able to pick up dads? 2802 02:15:30,320 --> 02:15:31,960 Speaker 4: Yes, muzzlemummy, so true. 2803 02:15:32,040 --> 02:15:32,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2804 02:15:32,320 --> 02:15:32,680 Speaker 1: Facts. 2805 02:15:33,120 --> 02:15:34,920 Speaker 4: So I ended up agreeing to meet up with this 2806 02:15:35,000 --> 02:15:37,760 Speaker 4: man for lunch one day between classes. He looked a 2807 02:15:37,760 --> 02:15:39,960 Speaker 4: little older, but anyone who has spent time in Asia 2808 02:15:40,000 --> 02:15:42,200 Speaker 4: and knows it's very hard to tell age and gender. 2809 02:15:42,600 --> 02:15:44,440 Speaker 4: Even I have two stories on that, but my friends 2810 02:15:44,440 --> 02:15:47,240 Speaker 4: have better ones. So this was where the red flags 2811 02:15:47,240 --> 02:15:50,440 Speaker 4: would start and never stop. But my dumb college self 2812 02:15:50,480 --> 02:15:53,080 Speaker 4: was being an idiot. On the first meeting, he wants 2813 02:15:53,120 --> 02:15:55,200 Speaker 4: to take his car to the restaurant from my college. 2814 02:15:55,440 --> 02:15:57,280 Speaker 4: I knew this was suspicious to hop in a car 2815 02:15:57,280 --> 02:15:58,200 Speaker 4: with a stranger, but. 2816 02:15:58,200 --> 02:16:02,200 Speaker 1: I already yeah, super suspicion. Sh wait wait wait with 2817 02:16:02,280 --> 02:16:03,000 Speaker 1: a stranger. 2818 02:16:03,120 --> 02:16:06,240 Speaker 4: Dude, Okay, but I already had my second black belt 2819 02:16:06,240 --> 02:16:06,760 Speaker 4: at the time. 2820 02:16:07,880 --> 02:16:10,360 Speaker 1: So he is a muscle bomby, as Jem said. 2821 02:16:10,160 --> 02:16:13,160 Speaker 4: Oh, he's like I could handle myself. I could take 2822 02:16:13,200 --> 02:16:14,680 Speaker 4: a man down with two moves. 2823 02:16:14,720 --> 02:16:16,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I could pick up all these dats. 2824 02:16:16,960 --> 02:16:19,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. When we parked and walked towards a restaurant. It 2825 02:16:19,760 --> 02:16:22,120 Speaker 4: kept feeling like his hand would knock into my butt. 2826 02:16:22,160 --> 02:16:25,080 Speaker 4: Ew It was weird. But the sidewalks are small, and 2827 02:16:25,160 --> 02:16:27,880 Speaker 4: I'm not I think he I you know. 2828 02:16:28,040 --> 02:16:30,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're big enough. I don't know 2829 02:16:30,520 --> 02:16:33,080 Speaker 1: if your your ass is so thick that it takes 2830 02:16:33,160 --> 02:16:35,240 Speaker 1: up the whole sidewalk that he can't help but bump 2831 02:16:35,280 --> 02:16:39,000 Speaker 1: his hands like, oh sorry, oh sorry, sorry. 2832 02:16:39,959 --> 02:16:43,240 Speaker 4: Anyway, it all seemed to go well, so I agreed 2833 02:16:43,240 --> 02:16:44,560 Speaker 4: to meet him again. A week later. 2834 02:16:44,600 --> 02:16:47,120 Speaker 1: It's going well him this old man touching your booty. 2835 02:16:48,560 --> 02:16:50,959 Speaker 4: Uh. This time he took me to Love Hotel. 2836 02:16:51,840 --> 02:16:53,959 Speaker 1: Oh that's like a like a japan thing. 2837 02:16:53,920 --> 02:16:56,520 Speaker 4: Right, I don't know anything about it. 2838 02:16:56,560 --> 02:16:58,560 Speaker 1: If you know what a Love hotel is. Put in 2839 02:16:58,560 --> 02:16:59,959 Speaker 1: the comments, I think. 2840 02:16:59,800 --> 02:17:02,400 Speaker 4: I've heard of it, but I don't know exactly what. 2841 02:17:03,080 --> 02:17:06,640 Speaker 4: But claimed it was because we could sing karaoke in private. There. 2842 02:17:07,000 --> 02:17:10,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, We're going to Love Hotel for the karaoke. I'm 2843 02:17:10,360 --> 02:17:14,480 Speaker 1: going to the strip club for the hot wings. 2844 02:17:14,640 --> 02:17:17,280 Speaker 4: Honestly, should have ducked out then, but I made it 2845 02:17:17,320 --> 02:17:19,960 Speaker 4: clear nothing was happening that day, though he still tried 2846 02:17:20,000 --> 02:17:23,959 Speaker 4: a few times. I didn't hurt him, but was for 2847 02:17:23,959 --> 02:17:26,439 Speaker 4: for She's like, I didn't use any of my black. 2848 02:17:26,280 --> 02:17:29,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was lethal weapons. 2849 02:17:29,640 --> 02:17:30,680 Speaker 4: I made it pretty clear. 2850 02:17:32,959 --> 02:17:33,680 Speaker 2: Where was it. 2851 02:17:33,800 --> 02:17:33,959 Speaker 1: Oh? 2852 02:17:34,200 --> 02:17:36,200 Speaker 4: At this point I had asked his age and he 2853 02:17:36,280 --> 02:17:38,959 Speaker 4: claimed he was twenty nine. I would have guessed early 2854 02:17:39,000 --> 02:17:41,960 Speaker 4: to mid thirties, but I have embarrassed myself before guessing 2855 02:17:42,000 --> 02:17:44,360 Speaker 4: too old. It was like that John mulaney snl skit 2856 02:17:44,400 --> 02:17:44,920 Speaker 4: where he's like. 2857 02:17:44,920 --> 02:17:47,160 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I get tired going. 2858 02:17:47,000 --> 02:17:50,640 Speaker 4: On thirty six that one. I did end up caving 2859 02:17:50,680 --> 02:17:53,160 Speaker 4: the next time he met, almost a week later though stupid, 2860 02:17:53,200 --> 02:17:55,200 Speaker 4: I know, but he did kind of spoil me and 2861 02:17:55,240 --> 02:17:57,760 Speaker 4: we texted a lot. The next time we met, he 2862 02:17:57,879 --> 02:17:59,959 Speaker 4: ended up at my place, but he didn't stay the night, 2863 02:18:00,040 --> 02:18:02,280 Speaker 4: even though I offered. At the time, I thought maybe 2864 02:18:02,320 --> 02:18:04,560 Speaker 4: he was still scared of my cat. He had jumped 2865 02:18:04,560 --> 02:18:05,959 Speaker 4: on the couch when he first saw her. 2866 02:18:06,280 --> 02:18:11,160 Speaker 1: White hot man just like so frail sounding. Yeah, like 2867 02:18:11,240 --> 02:18:13,320 Speaker 1: I was firm. I didn't hurt him though, he was 2868 02:18:13,360 --> 02:18:15,200 Speaker 1: scared of my cat. But don't worry, the cat didn't 2869 02:18:15,240 --> 02:18:15,680 Speaker 1: urt him either. 2870 02:18:15,720 --> 02:18:16,800 Speaker 4: The cat also knows black. 2871 02:18:17,160 --> 02:18:18,720 Speaker 1: That's true belt cat. 2872 02:18:18,920 --> 02:18:20,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you don't know, you don't know. 2873 02:18:20,760 --> 02:18:24,600 Speaker 1: It's like that cat in Kung Fu Panda, the snow leopard. Man, 2874 02:18:24,720 --> 02:18:27,600 Speaker 1: it's not a cat. It is a big cat. 2875 02:18:27,680 --> 02:18:28,280 Speaker 4: It's a big cat. 2876 02:18:28,360 --> 02:18:29,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a cat. 2877 02:18:29,440 --> 02:18:29,760 Speaker 4: You know what. 2878 02:18:30,120 --> 02:18:32,600 Speaker 1: Hey, I know my cat knowledge. It is a big cat. 2879 02:18:32,680 --> 02:18:35,280 Speaker 4: You're right, your son. I'm sorry, so sorry. Then I 2880 02:18:35,280 --> 02:18:37,080 Speaker 4: didn't hear for then I didn't. 2881 02:18:37,400 --> 02:18:40,199 Speaker 1: Crazy, he said, Macca says he can't handle the pussy. 2882 02:18:40,600 --> 02:18:41,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a. 2883 02:18:43,760 --> 02:18:47,600 Speaker 1: Nice one. 2884 02:18:48,000 --> 02:18:49,920 Speaker 4: Then I didn't hear from him for three days, and 2885 02:18:49,959 --> 02:18:51,920 Speaker 4: I was pretty upset when we got back in touch. 2886 02:18:52,000 --> 02:18:53,879 Speaker 4: He claimed it was a business trip, so he got 2887 02:18:53,920 --> 02:18:55,920 Speaker 4: scared of the cat, and then he ghosted her for 2888 02:18:55,959 --> 02:18:59,400 Speaker 4: three days. I guess, but he said. 2889 02:18:59,200 --> 02:19:01,360 Speaker 1: He was He said, I mean he could legitimately be 2890 02:19:01,440 --> 02:19:03,520 Speaker 1: on a business Yeah, every three. 2891 02:19:03,400 --> 02:19:05,200 Speaker 4: Days, I was on a business trip. But he wasn't 2892 02:19:05,200 --> 02:19:05,720 Speaker 4: texting her. 2893 02:19:06,040 --> 02:19:07,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't respond to people for multiple days. 2894 02:19:07,959 --> 02:19:10,039 Speaker 4: But that's just you, because you're bad at responding. 2895 02:19:10,320 --> 02:19:11,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2896 02:19:11,760 --> 02:19:13,800 Speaker 4: We met up this time because he was curious about 2897 02:19:13,840 --> 02:19:16,959 Speaker 4: my motorcycle and he wanted to try riding it. Oh, 2898 02:19:17,040 --> 02:19:20,560 Speaker 4: he sounds you. This is one of the okop fans. Yeah, 2899 02:19:20,959 --> 02:19:24,200 Speaker 4: you sound so cool, I know, like black that like 2900 02:19:24,680 --> 02:19:29,440 Speaker 4: the more that you you got a motorcycle, you're so cool? Like, 2901 02:19:29,720 --> 02:19:33,000 Speaker 4: uh okay. We met up this time because he was 2902 02:19:33,040 --> 02:19:35,720 Speaker 4: curious about my motorcycle and he wanted to try riding it. 2903 02:19:35,720 --> 02:19:37,960 Speaker 4: It was a twenty year old one hundred and fifty cc, 2904 02:19:38,240 --> 02:19:40,520 Speaker 4: so if something happened, it wasn't that big a deal, 2905 02:19:40,600 --> 02:19:42,840 Speaker 4: so I agreed. We hung out for a bit while 2906 02:19:42,879 --> 02:19:45,760 Speaker 4: I taught him out to ride. Like two days later, though, 2907 02:19:45,800 --> 02:19:48,560 Speaker 4: my motorcycle's engine broke down and could only be fixed 2908 02:19:48,560 --> 02:19:50,920 Speaker 4: by replacing the engine. I did not have that kind 2909 02:19:50,959 --> 02:19:53,320 Speaker 4: of money, So guess who comes in to buy me 2910 02:19:53,400 --> 02:19:55,680 Speaker 4: a new motorcycle with every. 2911 02:19:55,480 --> 02:20:02,840 Speaker 1: Figure in my baby sugar, she can't help such booty. 2912 02:20:03,480 --> 02:20:05,959 Speaker 4: It was just another little one hundred and fifty cc, 2913 02:20:06,240 --> 02:20:08,920 Speaker 4: but it was brand new, so I was half in love, 2914 02:20:09,120 --> 02:20:11,520 Speaker 4: even though I only knew this guy for like three weeks. 2915 02:20:11,920 --> 02:20:16,280 Speaker 4: This is when everything starts going to a real Are 2916 02:20:16,280 --> 02:20:18,240 Speaker 4: we allowed to swear on this swear? 2917 02:20:19,280 --> 02:20:20,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god? 2918 02:20:22,160 --> 02:20:25,680 Speaker 4: You know he now starts talking about how he prefers 2919 02:20:25,760 --> 02:20:27,600 Speaker 4: dogs to cats, so I should get rid of my 2920 02:20:27,640 --> 02:20:30,640 Speaker 4: cat so he can get me a dog. That's weird. 2921 02:20:31,080 --> 02:20:33,440 Speaker 4: I adopted her from the shelter and she was blind 2922 02:20:36,000 --> 02:20:40,120 Speaker 4: and she's still new karatea. Then he thinks my flat 2923 02:20:40,160 --> 02:20:42,720 Speaker 4: is too far away, small and cheap. I am, I'm 2924 02:20:42,760 --> 02:20:44,720 Speaker 4: in college overseas, so duh. 2925 02:20:44,760 --> 02:20:46,560 Speaker 1: And he's like, I will get you a new flat. 2926 02:20:46,760 --> 02:20:49,240 Speaker 4: Yeah no, yeah, so he wants to buy me a 2927 02:20:49,280 --> 02:20:52,880 Speaker 4: flat in the city. At this point, why buy So 2928 02:20:52,879 --> 02:20:55,160 Speaker 4: he's got he's got a new motorcycle. He's trying to 2929 02:20:55,160 --> 02:20:56,920 Speaker 4: get rid of the cat, which is weird. 2930 02:20:57,200 --> 02:20:58,879 Speaker 1: How rich is this dude? 2931 02:20:58,920 --> 02:21:02,000 Speaker 4: He's got money. He hasn't got muscles, but he's got money. 2932 02:21:02,080 --> 02:21:02,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2933 02:21:02,320 --> 02:21:05,080 Speaker 1: What he lacks and muscles and courage he makes up 2934 02:21:05,120 --> 02:21:06,400 Speaker 1: for dollar bells. 2935 02:21:07,920 --> 02:21:09,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, so he wants to buy me a flat in 2936 02:21:09,800 --> 02:21:12,160 Speaker 4: the city. At this point, alarm bells are ringing in 2937 02:21:12,200 --> 02:21:15,160 Speaker 4: my head because who does this three weeks into knowing 2938 02:21:15,160 --> 02:21:15,600 Speaker 4: a person? 2939 02:21:15,840 --> 02:21:16,920 Speaker 1: Dude like a billionaire? 2940 02:21:16,959 --> 02:21:20,720 Speaker 4: A billionaire? So I confront him. Turns out he's forty 2941 02:21:20,760 --> 02:21:28,320 Speaker 4: one and married. That's crazy. Yeah yeah, yeah, get get 2942 02:21:28,360 --> 02:21:30,480 Speaker 4: all the things you can get, well the motorcycles in 2943 02:21:30,520 --> 02:21:37,560 Speaker 4: her name, which you know might see why that's importantly Sorry. 2944 02:21:38,080 --> 02:21:39,440 Speaker 4: I see you in the commons, but. 2945 02:21:39,440 --> 02:21:41,200 Speaker 1: I see you in the comments. You see what's coming. 2946 02:21:41,240 --> 02:21:43,280 Speaker 1: I see it. Also, do you think he's going to 2947 02:21:43,320 --> 02:21:44,320 Speaker 1: get the flat? 2948 02:21:44,680 --> 02:21:47,000 Speaker 4: I hope, so I don't. I think it might be too. 2949 02:21:47,400 --> 02:21:48,840 Speaker 4: I think that was what we talked about. 2950 02:21:48,920 --> 02:21:50,879 Speaker 1: I feel. But also it's like, no free lunch. You 2951 02:21:50,879 --> 02:21:53,879 Speaker 1: don't just get a flat, you don't free You got 2952 02:21:53,879 --> 02:21:54,520 Speaker 1: a motorcycles? 2953 02:21:54,800 --> 02:21:54,959 Speaker 2: Yeah? 2954 02:21:55,040 --> 02:21:57,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you get a motorcycle over no flat. 2955 02:21:57,560 --> 02:22:00,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. He claims he hasn't been sleeping with his wife 2956 02:22:00,680 --> 02:22:03,040 Speaker 4: since meeting me, and that I'm the only girl for him. 2957 02:22:03,680 --> 02:22:06,080 Speaker 1: I swear I haven't been cheating. Got you with my wife? 2958 02:22:09,200 --> 02:22:12,120 Speaker 4: Yeah right, buddy. I immediately break up with him, and 2959 02:22:12,160 --> 02:22:13,880 Speaker 4: you would think that would be the end, but no, 2960 02:22:14,200 --> 02:22:16,200 Speaker 4: he decides the best way to try to get me 2961 02:22:16,280 --> 02:22:18,600 Speaker 4: back is to stalk me for the next five months. 2962 02:22:18,840 --> 02:22:24,959 Speaker 4: Why would you stalk a black belt? That's silly, nose broken? 2963 02:22:25,160 --> 02:22:28,800 Speaker 1: Yeah would? I think that's my favorite Sophia quote. Why 2964 02:22:28,800 --> 02:22:31,360 Speaker 1: would you stock get on her shirt? 2965 02:22:31,520 --> 02:22:35,800 Speaker 4: Yeah? No, this man is crazy. So he got Oh 2966 02:22:35,840 --> 02:22:38,840 Speaker 4: where was I? So he just yeah. I stupidly thought 2967 02:22:38,920 --> 02:22:40,640 Speaker 4: the breakup was the end of it, so I didn't 2968 02:22:40,680 --> 02:22:42,640 Speaker 4: tell the guards at my flat right away not to 2969 02:22:42,720 --> 02:22:45,760 Speaker 4: let him in. So he got into my flat one 2970 02:22:45,840 --> 02:22:48,000 Speaker 4: night and tried to get me to have sex with 2971 02:22:48,080 --> 02:22:50,200 Speaker 4: him again by stripping down and chasing me. He just 2972 02:22:50,240 --> 02:22:51,040 Speaker 4: assaulted you. 2973 02:22:51,680 --> 02:22:56,200 Speaker 1: That's horrible, bro, you some of that karate chop hisick off. 2974 02:22:56,280 --> 02:22:58,560 Speaker 4: I back kicked him, broke his rib, and then locked 2975 02:22:58,600 --> 02:23:00,680 Speaker 4: myself in my room with my cat ntil he left me. 2976 02:23:03,160 --> 02:23:07,600 Speaker 4: I am very badass. Also, I'm so sorry that happened 2977 02:23:07,600 --> 02:23:12,480 Speaker 4: you because that fully assaulted you. Yeah, that's horrible, but I'm. 2978 02:23:12,360 --> 02:23:15,920 Speaker 1: Glad you Yeah, yeah, okay. 2979 02:23:15,680 --> 02:23:18,200 Speaker 4: Very strong. Yeah, no, this is good. I hope he 2980 02:23:18,200 --> 02:23:20,840 Speaker 4: goes to jail. I immediately told the guards not to 2981 02:23:20,920 --> 02:23:23,320 Speaker 4: let him in anymore after that. So he started leaving 2982 02:23:23,360 --> 02:23:26,480 Speaker 4: presents on my motorbike, the one he bought, yes, and 2983 02:23:26,560 --> 02:23:29,120 Speaker 4: showing up at my college he even brought. He even 2984 02:23:29,160 --> 02:23:32,920 Speaker 4: bought himself a Honda CBR six hundred to try to 2985 02:23:32,959 --> 02:23:36,440 Speaker 4: impress me and offer to let me ride it. Yeah no, thanks, buddy. 2986 02:23:37,040 --> 02:23:38,920 Speaker 4: I finally got him to stop while I was at 2987 02:23:38,920 --> 02:23:39,480 Speaker 4: my agents. 2988 02:23:39,640 --> 02:23:42,440 Speaker 1: I feel like a broken rib would be enough of 2989 02:23:42,480 --> 02:23:44,640 Speaker 1: a signal like, hey, I'm not interested. 2990 02:23:44,720 --> 02:23:48,960 Speaker 4: Well, no, this guy is horrible person, and obviously yeah, 2991 02:23:49,200 --> 02:23:49,760 Speaker 4: very much so. 2992 02:23:49,959 --> 02:23:52,840 Speaker 1: I think this is probably what I can't imagine is 2993 02:23:52,879 --> 02:23:55,520 Speaker 1: the first person that he's done this too. 2994 02:23:55,600 --> 02:23:58,439 Speaker 4: No, No, he like has a wife and he's probably 2995 02:23:58,480 --> 02:24:01,040 Speaker 4: like kind of you know, going out after these young 2996 02:24:01,120 --> 02:24:04,720 Speaker 4: college girls, it seems, and it just it. Fortunately, Opie is. 2997 02:24:04,840 --> 02:24:05,480 Speaker 1: A black belt. 2998 02:24:05,520 --> 02:24:07,879 Speaker 4: A black belt, you know, so he can't do that. 2999 02:24:07,920 --> 02:24:08,879 Speaker 4: But no, this is horrible. 3000 02:24:09,360 --> 02:24:10,680 Speaker 1: He needs to break more than his ribs. 3001 02:24:10,840 --> 02:24:18,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, Jesus, I finally got him to stop. While I 3002 02:24:18,160 --> 02:24:20,120 Speaker 4: was at my agent's She set me up with tutoring 3003 02:24:20,200 --> 02:24:23,120 Speaker 4: jobs and another tutor was there. I was complaining to 3004 02:24:23,160 --> 02:24:25,440 Speaker 4: them about the guy, and the other tutor offered to 3005 02:24:25,480 --> 02:24:28,040 Speaker 4: take a picture together like we were dating. The guy 3006 02:24:28,040 --> 02:24:29,840 Speaker 4: didn't believe it at first, but only kept up the 3007 02:24:29,840 --> 02:24:32,240 Speaker 4: shenanigans for another week. So that was the end of it. 3008 02:24:32,560 --> 02:24:35,280 Speaker 4: I sold the motorbike when I graduated and left the country. 3009 02:24:35,560 --> 02:24:37,760 Speaker 4: I never tried to find or tell his wife, and 3010 02:24:37,840 --> 02:24:40,560 Speaker 4: not because I didn't want to. But in certain countries, 3011 02:24:40,560 --> 02:24:42,840 Speaker 4: including the area I was in, the wife cannot sue 3012 02:24:42,959 --> 02:24:47,440 Speaker 4: or divorce her husband with the reason of cheating. She can, however, 3013 02:24:47,560 --> 02:24:50,160 Speaker 4: sue the mistress, so I was advised to not try 3014 02:24:50,160 --> 02:24:52,400 Speaker 4: to find her in case she decided to blame me. 3015 02:24:52,520 --> 02:24:56,080 Speaker 1: That is whack. There's some whack laws right now. That's horrible. 3016 02:24:57,080 --> 02:24:58,680 Speaker 4: I know it has been ten years, but I hope 3017 02:24:58,720 --> 02:25:00,360 Speaker 4: she found out what a piece of gar but she 3018 02:25:00,520 --> 02:25:02,000 Speaker 4: is and left his ass. 3019 02:25:02,640 --> 02:25:06,039 Speaker 1: Dang, Wow that is rough, Okay, I mean, uh one, 3020 02:25:06,280 --> 02:25:08,959 Speaker 1: how how do you think you avoid situations like this? 3021 02:25:09,080 --> 02:25:11,600 Speaker 1: But your answers in the comments, I would love to 3022 02:25:11,760 --> 02:25:15,800 Speaker 1: hear what what you should do? But that is like like, 3023 02:25:15,879 --> 02:25:19,080 Speaker 1: and and do we know what country? Ope's in Japan? 3024 02:25:19,200 --> 02:25:21,600 Speaker 1: He did not say it Probably not is in Japan. 3025 02:25:21,879 --> 02:25:24,600 Speaker 1: I can't imagine Japan's divorce laws are like that. 3026 02:25:24,840 --> 02:25:29,000 Speaker 4: No, they didn't say they just a small Asian area. Yeah, 3027 02:25:29,040 --> 02:25:29,720 Speaker 4: so we don't know. 3028 02:25:29,720 --> 02:25:31,920 Speaker 1: If I wonder, I does anyone have any guesses what 3029 02:25:31,959 --> 02:25:34,560 Speaker 1: country this could be? And it's also I would does 3030 02:25:34,600 --> 02:25:38,760 Speaker 1: anyone have any sugar daddy stories stories? I remember this 3031 02:25:38,800 --> 02:25:41,160 Speaker 1: girl in college got like like one of my I 3032 02:25:41,760 --> 02:25:45,200 Speaker 1: lived with an ex girlfriend for like a year in college, 3033 02:25:45,240 --> 02:25:47,119 Speaker 1: and so we had all these other girls that were 3034 02:25:47,120 --> 02:25:50,440 Speaker 1: living with us, and one of the girls had this 3035 02:25:50,480 --> 02:25:53,080 Speaker 1: is okay story time. One of the girls literally got 3036 02:25:53,160 --> 02:25:57,200 Speaker 1: everything paid for by her sugar daddy, like everything, and 3037 02:25:57,240 --> 02:26:00,400 Speaker 1: got a monthly allowance of like two grand Wow. Yeah, 3038 02:26:00,440 --> 02:26:01,440 Speaker 1: isn't crazy crazy? 3039 02:26:01,600 --> 02:26:04,840 Speaker 4: See? I feel like the benefits of sugar daddy ing 3040 02:26:04,920 --> 02:26:07,920 Speaker 4: seem nice, but I just don't think I could. I mean, 3041 02:26:07,959 --> 02:26:10,680 Speaker 4: I'm an actor. I don't think I could act that 3042 02:26:10,360 --> 02:26:12,480 Speaker 4: at that. I don't know, dude, I don't think I 3043 02:26:12,480 --> 02:26:12,920 Speaker 4: could do that. 3044 02:26:12,959 --> 02:26:16,199 Speaker 1: But wait, I want to see so Zodiac says China. 3045 02:26:15,959 --> 02:26:18,720 Speaker 4: Could be so, another person says South Korea because you 3046 02:26:18,720 --> 02:26:20,160 Speaker 4: can sue the mistress. 3047 02:26:21,200 --> 02:26:24,040 Speaker 1: And then Eric says, f y, there is an update 3048 02:26:24,080 --> 02:26:26,760 Speaker 1: to the wife abandoning op and traveling around the world 3049 02:26:27,120 --> 02:26:31,320 Speaker 1: because she thought she was going to get dementia. This 3050 02:26:31,400 --> 02:26:33,840 Speaker 1: last story that we read, oh at the anniversary, I 3051 02:26:33,879 --> 02:26:37,240 Speaker 1: think for this, I think, And then Sydney says, why 3052 02:26:37,240 --> 02:26:38,440 Speaker 1: can't she get a restraining order? 3053 02:26:38,520 --> 02:26:39,279 Speaker 4: That's what I was wondering. 3054 02:26:39,320 --> 02:26:40,560 Speaker 1: I think it's because of the country. 3055 02:26:40,600 --> 02:26:43,680 Speaker 4: It might be the country specifically, because this all feels 3056 02:26:43,680 --> 02:26:46,600 Speaker 4: like things that you know, at least here you could. 3057 02:26:46,440 --> 02:26:47,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you could get a restraining order. 3058 02:26:47,840 --> 02:26:49,959 Speaker 4: You know, get a restraining order. Even well, I mean 3059 02:26:49,959 --> 02:26:51,560 Speaker 4: that's grounds for going to the police. 3060 02:26:51,480 --> 02:26:56,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what, definitely I have grounds for Sophia. 3061 02:26:56,959 --> 02:26:58,680 Speaker 4: That was a weird lead in this reading. 3062 02:26:59,640 --> 02:27:03,920 Speaker 1: Star he give me that phone the red flag? All right, 3063 02:27:04,000 --> 02:27:07,879 Speaker 1: let us hit this next story. I'm so glad everyone 3064 02:27:07,920 --> 02:27:09,840 Speaker 1: is here on the live By the way, the call 3065 02:27:09,879 --> 02:27:12,240 Speaker 1: in number I crave fried Chicken is four for zero, 3066 02:27:12,600 --> 02:27:15,440 Speaker 1: five zero eight, six, six hundred. Also, we're at five 3067 02:27:15,520 --> 02:27:19,160 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety four people on the between like Facebook, YouTube, 3068 02:27:19,200 --> 02:27:23,280 Speaker 1: and Twitch. So if let's let's see if we can 3069 02:27:23,280 --> 02:27:25,440 Speaker 1: get to six hundred. So stay on the line because 3070 02:27:25,440 --> 02:27:30,360 Speaker 1: we got some more juicy stories for you. This is today. 3071 02:27:30,360 --> 02:27:32,880 Speaker 1: I afked up by telling my girlfriend I knew she 3072 02:27:33,040 --> 02:27:38,840 Speaker 1: cheated on me. Juicy, juicy, juicy. This happened approximately six 3073 02:27:38,920 --> 02:27:41,640 Speaker 1: years ago. I was laughing about it with my friend today, 3074 02:27:41,680 --> 02:27:46,120 Speaker 1: who recommended that I posted here, so let's all laugh 3075 02:27:46,160 --> 02:27:47,040 Speaker 1: at it together. 3076 02:27:47,160 --> 02:27:49,440 Speaker 4: I am not cold. I'm sorry, I'm just I'm just 3077 02:27:49,480 --> 02:27:51,640 Speaker 4: sitting like that. Someone asked if I was cold. Yeah, 3078 02:27:51,760 --> 02:27:52,680 Speaker 4: it's actually quite hot. 3079 02:27:52,600 --> 02:27:55,840 Speaker 1: Now I'm actually burning up in this sweater. And then Riley, 3080 02:27:55,879 --> 02:27:58,720 Speaker 1: after this story, maybe John can sub it for me 3081 02:27:58,800 --> 02:28:03,960 Speaker 1: because I need to eat. So flashback to undergrad. Things 3082 02:28:04,000 --> 02:28:06,520 Speaker 1: are good and I just started dating this beautiful girl 3083 02:28:06,560 --> 02:28:09,840 Speaker 1: that I had met in class. I was enamored with her, 3084 02:28:10,000 --> 02:28:12,920 Speaker 1: shocked that I loved her so fast, and amazed that 3085 02:28:13,000 --> 02:28:17,080 Speaker 1: she even wanted to date me. The first months are amazing. 3086 02:28:17,400 --> 02:28:19,680 Speaker 1: We can't keep our hands off of each other and 3087 02:28:19,920 --> 02:28:22,880 Speaker 1: never seem to be sick of each other's company. After 3088 02:28:22,920 --> 02:28:25,760 Speaker 1: a few months into our relationship, I started to notice 3089 02:28:25,920 --> 02:28:32,320 Speaker 1: some concerning symptoms. As you can probably hypothesize. When I peeded, 3090 02:28:33,600 --> 02:28:34,160 Speaker 1: it burned. 3091 02:28:34,760 --> 02:28:37,240 Speaker 4: Oh oh, man, it wakes. 3092 02:28:37,760 --> 02:28:40,280 Speaker 1: You want that to be gone. You should go to 3093 02:28:40,280 --> 02:28:42,920 Speaker 1: the doctor about that us gania. At first, I just 3094 02:28:42,959 --> 02:28:45,040 Speaker 1: assumed it must have been something weird in my diet. 3095 02:28:45,320 --> 02:28:48,720 Speaker 1: To be sure, I decided to stop taking creatine just 3096 02:28:48,760 --> 02:28:51,760 Speaker 1: in case. But as time went on. A few days later, 3097 02:28:52,000 --> 02:28:54,080 Speaker 1: the burning became unbearable. 3098 02:28:54,640 --> 02:28:55,000 Speaker 4: Yikes. 3099 02:28:55,400 --> 02:29:00,720 Speaker 1: Love is a burning thing, and it makes a fire sting. 3100 02:29:01,200 --> 02:29:04,440 Speaker 1: I would literally be struggling to stand while I peed 3101 02:29:04,560 --> 02:29:08,240 Speaker 1: because the pain was so intense. After I would literally 3102 02:29:08,320 --> 02:29:10,680 Speaker 1: lay in my bed in the fetal position until the 3103 02:29:10,720 --> 02:29:13,760 Speaker 1: pain subsided. It was bad. Oh you go to a doctor. 3104 02:29:14,320 --> 02:29:14,840 Speaker 4: Oh my god. 3105 02:29:15,000 --> 02:29:17,199 Speaker 1: Well, at least this point, I was no longer convinced 3106 02:29:17,240 --> 02:29:20,760 Speaker 1: that my diet was causing the symptoms. No, it had 3107 02:29:20,800 --> 02:29:26,360 Speaker 1: to be what I thought was unfathomable. My girlfriend must 3108 02:29:26,360 --> 02:29:28,680 Speaker 1: have cheated on me. Yikes, Yeah, what would you think 3109 02:29:28,720 --> 02:29:30,640 Speaker 1: in the situation, Well. 3110 02:29:30,560 --> 02:29:32,119 Speaker 4: I would have gone to the doctor right away. 3111 02:29:32,240 --> 02:29:35,280 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, put your put your curiosity to rest. Just 3112 02:29:35,720 --> 02:29:39,879 Speaker 1: find out Underscore fifty five Nope, had to be a uti. 3113 02:29:39,959 --> 02:29:42,600 Speaker 1: It could be a uti. Yeah, it doesn't necessarily have 3114 02:29:42,640 --> 02:29:43,519 Speaker 1: to be cheating. 3115 02:29:44,920 --> 02:29:48,959 Speaker 4: That it's true. Yeah, but you can only find out 3116 02:29:48,959 --> 02:29:49,720 Speaker 4: if you go to the doctor. 3117 02:29:50,000 --> 02:29:50,760 Speaker 1: Go to the doctor. 3118 02:29:50,760 --> 02:29:53,520 Speaker 4: Op it tested regardless, even if it was like something 3119 02:29:53,560 --> 02:29:55,279 Speaker 4: in your diet. I feel like if if. 3120 02:29:55,160 --> 02:29:57,680 Speaker 1: It was just go to a doctor, I had been 3121 02:29:57,680 --> 02:30:00,000 Speaker 1: with anyone else. I hadn't been with anyone else since 3122 02:30:00,080 --> 02:30:04,039 Speaker 1: I began pursuing her months before we became exclusive. I 3123 02:30:04,400 --> 02:30:08,359 Speaker 1: was shocked. Things seemed to be so perfect. She seemed 3124 02:30:08,560 --> 02:30:12,160 Speaker 1: like such a good person. Where had I gone wrong? 3125 02:30:12,920 --> 02:30:17,640 Speaker 1: The thought made my blood boil until I outright confronted her. 3126 02:30:18,120 --> 02:30:20,520 Speaker 1: I told her I knew she must have been unfaithful 3127 02:30:20,520 --> 02:30:23,080 Speaker 1: because of my symptoms and asked her if she had 3128 02:30:23,200 --> 02:30:29,520 Speaker 1: similar symptoms. She told me no. Yeah. Someone asked, is 3129 02:30:29,560 --> 02:30:31,880 Speaker 1: it koalape again? We had a story about koala is 3130 02:30:31,920 --> 02:30:35,000 Speaker 1: peeing on someone? What do you guys think it is? 3131 02:30:35,040 --> 02:30:38,800 Speaker 1: Put your answer to the comments way actually conspiracy theories? Okay, 3132 02:30:40,240 --> 02:30:41,600 Speaker 1: what do you think? Fora wait? 3133 02:30:41,680 --> 02:30:43,760 Speaker 4: So he did he say that he has. 3134 02:30:43,640 --> 02:30:45,440 Speaker 1: Gone to the doctor yet hasn't got a doctor he's 3135 02:30:45,440 --> 02:30:46,560 Speaker 1: about to figure it find it out though. 3136 02:30:47,480 --> 02:30:49,440 Speaker 4: Uh oh after going what do you mean. 3137 02:30:49,640 --> 02:30:52,080 Speaker 1: He hasn't found out yet what it is? 3138 02:30:52,160 --> 02:30:54,320 Speaker 4: Oh from the Okay, Okay, Yeah, I think you gotta 3139 02:30:54,360 --> 02:30:57,199 Speaker 4: wait until you get your stuff back from the doctor 3140 02:30:57,200 --> 02:30:59,120 Speaker 4: before you go accusing anyone. 3141 02:30:59,480 --> 02:31:02,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be a it could be an urinary 3142 02:31:02,320 --> 02:31:04,959 Speaker 1: track infection. It could it could be an SDD. It 3143 02:31:04,959 --> 02:31:08,840 Speaker 1: could just be like I don't know, acid p is 3144 02:31:08,879 --> 02:31:11,560 Speaker 1: the place. Who knows. It could be a million things. 3145 02:31:11,720 --> 02:31:14,200 Speaker 1: The only way to truly know is go to a doctor. Yeah, yeah, 3146 02:31:14,680 --> 02:31:16,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. What do you guys think? Put your 3147 02:31:16,080 --> 02:31:18,000 Speaker 1: answers in the comments, but we're gonna go back to 3148 02:31:18,360 --> 02:31:21,279 Speaker 1: a reality. April says it could be a kidney infection. 3149 02:31:21,480 --> 02:31:24,959 Speaker 1: So there's a bunch of things, so many things. So 3150 02:31:27,000 --> 02:31:29,280 Speaker 1: she told me, no, I don't have the same symptoms. 3151 02:31:29,280 --> 02:31:31,000 Speaker 1: I demanded that she come with me to a clinic, 3152 02:31:31,080 --> 02:31:33,360 Speaker 1: that we both take a test and share results, and 3153 02:31:33,400 --> 02:31:34,040 Speaker 1: she said sure. 3154 02:31:35,080 --> 02:31:39,520 Speaker 4: She seems too calm for, you know, her to actually 3155 02:31:39,560 --> 02:31:40,000 Speaker 4: be cheating. 3156 02:31:40,760 --> 02:31:43,240 Speaker 1: So you think it is not a red flag? You 3157 02:31:43,280 --> 02:31:47,480 Speaker 1: think that her saying sure is a green flag? 3158 02:31:47,879 --> 02:31:52,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? I think I don't think she cheated personally because. 3159 02:31:51,800 --> 02:31:55,600 Speaker 1: I think she's so down to go. Yeah, yeah, she's lazy. Fine, 3160 02:31:55,720 --> 02:32:00,199 Speaker 1: So we agreed to go the next day. Looking back 3161 02:32:00,280 --> 02:32:02,840 Speaker 1: at this, I feel like a complete dick. Maybe some foreshadowing. 3162 02:32:03,160 --> 02:32:05,840 Speaker 1: The same night I confront of my girlfriend, my roommate's 3163 02:32:05,879 --> 02:32:08,240 Speaker 1: girlfriend came over to stay at our place. She was 3164 02:32:08,280 --> 02:32:10,119 Speaker 1: being nice and went to do some of the dishes 3165 02:32:10,160 --> 02:32:13,440 Speaker 1: for us. Around the time, my roommates and I had 3166 02:32:13,480 --> 02:32:17,320 Speaker 1: just moved into the new house. In the process of 3167 02:32:17,400 --> 02:32:21,320 Speaker 1: all of our belongings getting shuffled around, she went to 3168 02:32:21,360 --> 02:32:25,960 Speaker 1: get some dishwashing pods and exclaimed, why are you guys 3169 02:32:26,200 --> 02:32:32,640 Speaker 1: washing your dishes with laundry detergent. I heard that and 3170 02:32:32,840 --> 02:32:37,840 Speaker 1: it clicked, Holy shit, I've been pissing out bleach. 3171 02:32:39,560 --> 02:32:40,440 Speaker 4: Oh my god. 3172 02:32:40,720 --> 02:32:44,000 Speaker 1: I instantly felt ashamed and immediately apologized to my girlfriend. 3173 02:32:44,040 --> 02:32:46,320 Speaker 1: She took it really well, laughed at the situation, and 3174 02:32:46,360 --> 02:32:48,840 Speaker 1: we forgot about it. Sure Enough, a few days later, 3175 02:32:48,920 --> 02:32:51,800 Speaker 1: after our dishes slash cups were no longer saturated with 3176 02:32:51,879 --> 02:32:55,320 Speaker 1: bleach residue, my symptoms disappeared. 3177 02:32:55,440 --> 02:32:56,879 Speaker 4: She was microdosing bleach. 3178 02:32:56,959 --> 02:33:01,400 Speaker 1: Micro dosing bleach, which I've heard, Wow, is not very healthy. 3179 02:33:02,400 --> 02:33:04,520 Speaker 4: I've heard that's not very good. I'm not a doctor. 3180 02:33:05,560 --> 02:33:07,360 Speaker 1: Doctor, I mean, it's not very good for you. It 3181 02:33:07,400 --> 02:33:10,120 Speaker 1: could be a you know, a cool trend that the 3182 02:33:10,200 --> 02:33:13,080 Speaker 1: kids are doing these days, you know, yeah, you know 3183 02:33:13,200 --> 02:33:15,840 Speaker 1: like how like all the kids they're like, oh like 3184 02:33:15,920 --> 02:33:19,879 Speaker 1: let's uh uh eat tide pods micros But. 3185 02:33:20,200 --> 02:33:20,960 Speaker 4: Actually did that? 3186 02:33:21,080 --> 02:33:21,320 Speaker 1: Who? 3187 02:33:21,360 --> 02:33:23,800 Speaker 4: Actually? I feel like that was sensationalized. 3188 02:33:24,000 --> 02:33:25,280 Speaker 1: What tie pods? 3189 02:33:25,360 --> 02:33:25,920 Speaker 4: Yeah? 3190 02:33:26,040 --> 02:33:28,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, I've seen it all over TikTok exactly. 3191 02:33:28,680 --> 02:33:30,840 Speaker 4: Everything on TikTok is sensationalized. 3192 02:33:30,959 --> 02:33:35,280 Speaker 1: No, everything on TikTok is true and nothing but the true, Sophia, 3193 02:33:35,360 --> 02:33:37,680 Speaker 1: but leave the TikTok, said Bleach Maxing. 3194 02:33:38,000 --> 02:33:39,400 Speaker 4: I just want I don't know if you guys have 3195 02:33:39,440 --> 02:33:43,120 Speaker 4: seen the Curtis Connor Look Mac, Look Mac, I can't speak, 3196 02:33:42,600 --> 02:33:46,000 Speaker 4: look Max in video. It's like this thing on TikTok 3197 02:33:46,040 --> 02:33:51,520 Speaker 4: where people are just trying to look better but with makeup. No, 3198 02:33:51,680 --> 02:33:55,840 Speaker 4: like they're doing like jaw exercise. Yeah, the mewing. 3199 02:33:58,520 --> 02:33:59,720 Speaker 1: Do we look mute beautiful? 3200 02:34:01,800 --> 02:34:02,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 3201 02:34:02,120 --> 02:34:04,480 Speaker 1: That uh yeah? I think that that is why you 3202 02:34:04,520 --> 02:34:09,080 Speaker 1: don't jump to conclusions before seeing it out here. But Sophia, 3203 02:34:09,320 --> 02:34:11,160 Speaker 1: you know what you should see right now? 3204 02:34:11,360 --> 02:34:13,320 Speaker 4: You could have said, you know what you should jump to. 3205 02:34:13,560 --> 02:34:15,920 Speaker 1: You know what, you should jump through this next door? 3206 02:34:16,959 --> 02:34:19,920 Speaker 1: All right, here you go, are John. This is a thick, 3207 02:34:20,000 --> 02:34:23,720 Speaker 1: juicy one. If John wants to come in and relieve 3208 02:34:23,800 --> 02:34:26,080 Speaker 1: me so I can eat. I have been doing this 3209 02:34:26,120 --> 02:34:29,920 Speaker 1: for like hours and hours. I haven't pee, I haven't 3210 02:34:29,920 --> 02:34:33,440 Speaker 1: eaten the things we sacrifice for you, and we love 3211 02:34:33,480 --> 02:34:35,480 Speaker 1: doing it, but I I really I need to go 3212 02:34:35,480 --> 02:34:38,080 Speaker 1: to the bathroom. So if John can, you could start 3213 02:34:38,080 --> 02:34:39,960 Speaker 1: reading Sophia because we didn't get into this next door 3214 02:34:39,959 --> 02:34:41,560 Speaker 1: because the live stream death that stop. 3215 02:34:41,640 --> 02:34:43,720 Speaker 4: Y'all stop. 3216 02:34:46,200 --> 02:34:46,920 Speaker 1: Right now, let's go. 3217 02:34:47,000 --> 02:34:50,800 Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on. There is a little skit that 3218 02:34:50,920 --> 02:34:53,680 Speaker 4: I guess someone wrote, whereas since John, you know what's 3219 02:34:53,720 --> 02:34:59,680 Speaker 4: worse than cyberbuwling? Sam insert sam improv I. 3220 02:34:59,600 --> 02:35:05,160 Speaker 1: Don't know what's worse than cyber bowling, noating, cyber cheating. No, 3221 02:35:05,280 --> 02:35:08,120 Speaker 1: you didn't do the impression with that. I think I 3222 02:35:08,240 --> 02:35:12,280 Speaker 1: have to cheat on my co host by go snacking 3223 02:35:12,400 --> 02:35:15,039 Speaker 1: on some food. So John comes some in to me. 3224 02:35:15,600 --> 02:35:17,080 Speaker 1: It's about this start this next. 3225 02:35:16,959 --> 02:35:21,760 Speaker 4: Door so it says they did their dishes with chlorine 3226 02:35:21,840 --> 02:35:23,560 Speaker 4: and my pee doesn't burn. I don't know if you 3227 02:35:23,560 --> 02:35:24,400 Speaker 4: should be doing that. 3228 02:35:24,840 --> 02:35:28,680 Speaker 5: Wait, I'm sorry, John, you sit there. Should you sit 3229 02:35:28,720 --> 02:35:33,920 Speaker 5: where Sophia is because this hurts my head? 3230 02:35:35,600 --> 02:35:39,080 Speaker 1: Just thank you little musical chairs. Also, you can see 3231 02:35:39,120 --> 02:35:42,040 Speaker 1: we all live together, we're all we're all in all 3232 02:35:42,080 --> 02:35:44,520 Speaker 1: in the same. Sam's gonna get a uti here soon. 3233 02:35:44,640 --> 02:35:46,320 Speaker 1: Why would you put that into the universe? 3234 02:35:50,560 --> 02:35:52,960 Speaker 4: I was I'm knocking on the doubly. 3235 02:35:53,040 --> 02:35:55,920 Speaker 2: So that's everyone, Sophia. 3236 02:35:56,360 --> 02:35:56,840 Speaker 4: What's up. 3237 02:35:56,920 --> 02:35:57,520 Speaker 2: How's it been going? 3238 02:35:57,560 --> 02:36:00,680 Speaker 4: It's been going well? Just did the skit? That's one wrote? 3239 02:36:00,959 --> 02:36:02,680 Speaker 2: Nice. Oh that's amazing. 3240 02:36:02,760 --> 02:36:04,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're here, here, here we go. We'll do it 3241 02:36:04,840 --> 02:36:06,920 Speaker 4: again because Sam did a horrible chunk. 3242 02:36:07,040 --> 02:36:10,320 Speaker 3: All right, let's try this the real way, y'all. You 3243 02:36:10,360 --> 02:36:12,160 Speaker 3: know what's worse than cyberbillying? 3244 02:36:12,720 --> 02:36:16,640 Speaker 4: I don't know, uh, cyber. 3245 02:36:18,879 --> 02:36:24,200 Speaker 2: Tech, no, cyber cheating, and let me tell you all 3246 02:36:24,240 --> 02:36:24,800 Speaker 2: about it. 3247 02:36:25,040 --> 02:36:27,160 Speaker 4: You can only think of cyber rats, which is a doctor. 3248 02:36:26,920 --> 02:36:31,920 Speaker 3: Who's right, yeah, pirting, pirate, cyber pirting, cyber bullet. 3249 02:36:31,959 --> 02:36:32,879 Speaker 4: Wait wait. 3250 02:36:35,080 --> 02:36:38,960 Speaker 2: Doune dun dun. Okay, So this next story, which we're 3251 02:36:38,959 --> 02:36:43,160 Speaker 2: about to get into right, yes, yes, is my wife 3252 02:36:43,200 --> 02:36:46,080 Speaker 2: is texting her classmate every day and spending lots of 3253 02:36:46,120 --> 02:36:47,600 Speaker 2: time with him. What should I do? 3254 02:36:47,840 --> 02:36:51,000 Speaker 3: This is okayop, we read the craziest true stories on Earth. Again, 3255 02:36:51,400 --> 02:36:55,640 Speaker 3: I'm John, this is Sofia, Sophia, what should this person do? 3256 02:36:55,680 --> 02:36:58,080 Speaker 3: They're texting with their classmate all the time, Like. 3257 02:36:59,720 --> 02:37:02,200 Speaker 2: Uh, what should they do? 3258 02:37:02,720 --> 02:37:05,840 Speaker 4: I think they need to Actually, I'm totally zoned out. 3259 02:37:10,600 --> 02:37:11,400 Speaker 1: I was looking at the. 3260 02:37:11,360 --> 02:37:13,320 Speaker 2: Comments and I it is a lot, right, it's a 3261 02:37:13,400 --> 02:37:14,080 Speaker 2: lot to keep up. 3262 02:37:14,959 --> 02:37:17,320 Speaker 4: I'm in a new place right now in the chair. 3263 02:37:17,480 --> 02:37:19,720 Speaker 2: Yes, you're gonna have to read. We're back into reality. 3264 02:37:19,760 --> 02:37:21,080 Speaker 2: So basically, here's the situation. 3265 02:37:21,200 --> 02:37:25,120 Speaker 3: So the wife is texting this new classmate every day, right, 3266 02:37:25,480 --> 02:37:27,680 Speaker 3: and the husband is like, Yo, why are you? Why 3267 02:37:27,680 --> 02:37:29,039 Speaker 3: are you texting every day? 3268 02:37:29,120 --> 02:37:32,280 Speaker 2: Why are you that they're both close? Yeah? I don't 3269 02:37:32,280 --> 02:37:33,520 Speaker 2: know if they're both in college yet we have no 3270 02:37:33,720 --> 02:37:36,800 Speaker 2: Remember this is our no context, no context, no context zone. 3271 02:37:37,120 --> 02:37:42,200 Speaker 4: I think that, Yeah, don't maybe don't text them every day. 3272 02:37:42,200 --> 02:37:44,120 Speaker 2: Don't text them every day, maybe every two days. 3273 02:37:44,320 --> 02:37:48,720 Speaker 4: Text your your husband every one day, yes, and your 3274 02:37:49,160 --> 02:37:51,080 Speaker 4: your school friend every two days. 3275 02:37:51,200 --> 02:37:54,280 Speaker 3: Fulfill the quota. Yeah, every day with the hobby. You 3276 02:37:54,400 --> 02:37:55,760 Speaker 3: heard it here first, ladies and gentlemen. 3277 02:37:56,240 --> 02:37:57,560 Speaker 4: Put it on your Google calendar. 3278 02:37:57,840 --> 02:37:59,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, the same way. 3279 02:38:00,760 --> 02:38:03,520 Speaker 3: All right, So let's get into this story from fit 3280 02:38:03,680 --> 02:38:08,000 Speaker 3: Sherry seventy eight sixty two, who says we me thirty 3281 02:38:08,040 --> 02:38:11,960 Speaker 3: male and my wife twenty five female, have been married 3282 02:38:12,000 --> 02:38:15,600 Speaker 3: for around three years. We recently moved across the country 3283 02:38:15,600 --> 02:38:18,560 Speaker 3: so my wife could attend grad school. I found a 3284 02:38:18,600 --> 02:38:21,160 Speaker 3: career job in the new location and have been financially 3285 02:38:21,200 --> 02:38:24,320 Speaker 3: supporting us for the most part. She had been on 3286 02:38:24,360 --> 02:38:26,760 Speaker 3: her phone a lot more over the last. 3287 02:38:26,640 --> 02:38:28,360 Speaker 2: Few months, suspicious. 3288 02:38:28,680 --> 02:38:30,879 Speaker 3: I've asked a few times who she was texting all 3289 02:38:30,879 --> 02:38:34,320 Speaker 3: the time, and she says, it's just a friend from school. 3290 02:38:36,080 --> 02:38:37,880 Speaker 3: This is a friend from school. 3291 02:38:38,000 --> 02:38:39,520 Speaker 4: It's just a friend from school. They're working on a 3292 02:38:39,520 --> 02:38:40,040 Speaker 4: group project. 3293 02:38:40,080 --> 02:38:42,760 Speaker 3: That's it, group project. Okay, we can It takes two 3294 02:38:43,000 --> 02:38:46,920 Speaker 3: to make a group project project. Uh oh. When I 3295 02:38:47,040 --> 02:38:50,680 Speaker 3: ask more questions, she starts to get defensive. Wasn't sure 3296 02:38:50,760 --> 02:38:54,680 Speaker 3: what else to do, so unfortunately I took a peek 3297 02:38:55,360 --> 02:38:56,400 Speaker 3: through her phone. 3298 02:38:57,800 --> 02:39:02,920 Speaker 2: Uh oh, is that a flag alert? Where are we here? 3299 02:39:02,959 --> 02:39:05,240 Speaker 4: We are as a red flat. 3300 02:39:05,480 --> 02:39:07,920 Speaker 3: Everyone drop your red flags if you believe it is Sophia, 3301 02:39:07,959 --> 02:39:08,720 Speaker 3: give us a breakdown. 3302 02:39:08,920 --> 02:39:12,680 Speaker 4: I okay, I don't think that you should ever be look. 3303 02:39:12,760 --> 02:39:15,480 Speaker 4: I think you should talk to your I don't know, 3304 02:39:15,720 --> 02:39:18,240 Speaker 4: I think that looking through your partner's phone is kind 3305 02:39:18,240 --> 02:39:20,480 Speaker 4: of like end of relationship signs. 3306 02:39:20,600 --> 02:39:26,120 Speaker 3: Do you think that there's any scenario where like this 3307 02:39:26,160 --> 02:39:28,800 Speaker 3: one it was just like texting someone a lot, But 3308 02:39:28,920 --> 02:39:31,720 Speaker 3: do you think there are other scenarios where it's like 3309 02:39:31,760 --> 02:39:32,800 Speaker 3: a lot more evident. 3310 02:39:34,360 --> 02:39:35,520 Speaker 1: I think it's okay. 3311 02:39:35,760 --> 02:39:37,160 Speaker 4: I think you just have to be like I think 3312 02:39:37,200 --> 02:39:39,360 Speaker 4: there could be scenarios where you're like, know, this person 3313 02:39:39,400 --> 02:39:41,520 Speaker 4: is cheating and they're gaslighting me and all this stuff, 3314 02:39:41,520 --> 02:39:44,120 Speaker 4: and I just need some proof. Yes, but you have 3315 02:39:44,200 --> 02:39:47,040 Speaker 4: to know that that's going to be like your relationships. 3316 02:39:46,680 --> 02:39:50,160 Speaker 3: You're kind of locked and maybe maybe you have anecdotal 3317 02:39:50,200 --> 02:39:51,720 Speaker 3: proof that you don't have like a written record of 3318 02:39:51,959 --> 02:39:54,240 Speaker 3: or something like that. Yeah, it's it's like very specific 3319 02:39:54,280 --> 02:39:55,759 Speaker 3: situations maybe. 3320 02:39:55,440 --> 02:39:57,000 Speaker 4: But you know, continution is key. 3321 02:39:57,240 --> 02:39:57,480 Speaker 2: Yes. 3322 02:39:57,560 --> 02:40:00,320 Speaker 4: I think someone also said in the Burning, Rose Up. 3323 02:40:00,240 --> 02:40:03,080 Speaker 3: Burning, Bernie Ross has been going crazy this whole the 3324 02:40:03,600 --> 02:40:09,480 Speaker 3: whole thing. Yes, it's a tricky one. It's a tricky one, y'all. Yeah, Oh, 3325 02:40:09,640 --> 02:40:13,000 Speaker 3: y'all are so funny. No free sponsors. Yes, we love 3326 02:40:13,080 --> 02:40:16,800 Speaker 3: doctoc we love doc talk. Okay, So I wasn't your 3327 02:40:16,800 --> 02:40:19,039 Speaker 3: what else to do? So importantly, unfortunately took a peek 3328 02:40:19,080 --> 02:40:21,920 Speaker 3: through the phone. I found out that she has been 3329 02:40:21,959 --> 02:40:25,640 Speaker 3: texting some guy from her school all day, every day 3330 02:40:25,879 --> 02:40:30,840 Speaker 3: and night. The text lasts from seven am to twelve 3331 02:40:30,840 --> 02:40:33,800 Speaker 3: am every day, seven am to midnight. 3332 02:40:34,160 --> 02:40:39,880 Speaker 4: Whoa wait like you? They wake up and then good morning? 3333 02:40:40,480 --> 02:40:42,400 Speaker 2: How's that school? How's that group project going? 3334 02:40:42,760 --> 02:40:46,000 Speaker 4: They wake up in the morning, Good morning, good night? 3335 02:40:46,160 --> 02:40:51,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, great job studying hard on that group project. Wink 3336 02:40:52,160 --> 02:40:56,600 Speaker 2: wink wink. So yeah, are we? Are we innocent? Are 3337 02:40:59,400 --> 02:40:59,959 Speaker 2: even talking. 3338 02:40:59,760 --> 02:41:01,000 Speaker 4: About friends that much? 3339 02:41:01,320 --> 02:41:01,520 Speaker 6: Right? 3340 02:41:01,600 --> 02:41:01,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? 3341 02:41:01,920 --> 02:41:04,879 Speaker 4: And I'm pretty good at communicating with most times. 3342 02:41:05,160 --> 02:41:10,119 Speaker 3: Imagine texting someone every day, get bored from seven am. 3343 02:41:10,040 --> 02:41:11,959 Speaker 2: To try Yeah? Who is that interesting? That? 3344 02:41:12,000 --> 02:41:12,200 Speaker 4: You know? 3345 02:41:13,600 --> 02:41:18,959 Speaker 3: Truly interesting unless they got something specifically that they're interested in. 3346 02:41:19,040 --> 02:41:22,959 Speaker 4: Unless they're giving you, I don't know, like government secrets. 3347 02:41:23,160 --> 02:41:26,080 Speaker 3: Ooh, that would be pretty interesting. Actually, I would like 3348 02:41:26,080 --> 02:41:27,240 Speaker 3: to get government secrets. 3349 02:41:27,320 --> 02:41:29,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, Riley, I have tons of government secrets. 3350 02:41:29,800 --> 02:41:30,760 Speaker 2: You have tons of governments. 3351 02:41:30,800 --> 02:41:32,680 Speaker 5: But everyone's like, those aren't real. 3352 02:41:33,080 --> 02:41:37,320 Speaker 2: Those are conspirats. Okay, conspiracies coming after this story. 3353 02:41:38,840 --> 02:41:44,520 Speaker 3: So the texts seem innocent overall, okay, Uh, nothing sexual 3354 02:41:44,600 --> 02:41:46,920 Speaker 3: or anything like that, but they're worth a few things 3355 02:41:46,920 --> 02:41:47,720 Speaker 3: that were bothering me. 3356 02:41:48,360 --> 02:41:51,400 Speaker 2: I went all the way to the beginning of the thread. 3357 02:41:51,520 --> 02:41:55,880 Speaker 3: Mind you, this is a text thread that is, uh, 3358 02:41:56,200 --> 02:41:59,000 Speaker 3: seven am to midnight every single day. 3359 02:41:59,200 --> 02:42:03,440 Speaker 4: That's a long text thread. Presumably they're not talking every 3360 02:42:03,520 --> 02:42:06,280 Speaker 4: single minute from seven am to twelve am not but like, 3361 02:42:06,560 --> 02:42:09,360 Speaker 4: but like that's how long it is. 3362 02:42:09,480 --> 02:42:11,120 Speaker 3: Like I think, I think, yeah, maybe it's like it 3363 02:42:11,400 --> 02:42:12,800 Speaker 3: ends at like midnight. 3364 02:42:12,879 --> 02:42:13,920 Speaker 4: That's what I've understood. 3365 02:42:14,080 --> 02:42:19,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that'd be crazy. Every he keeps going, Yeah, 3366 02:42:19,879 --> 02:42:23,680 Speaker 2: you're just like eating. Okay, I gotta keep responding because 3367 02:42:24,440 --> 02:42:26,040 Speaker 2: not us doing the live stream right now. 3368 02:42:26,280 --> 02:42:28,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's seven am to midnight livestream. 3369 02:42:29,120 --> 02:42:34,960 Speaker 3: Yes, so you're ready. Riley, Hey, a lot of Celsius 3370 02:42:34,959 --> 02:42:36,600 Speaker 3: for this guy. I mean a lot of energy drinks. 3371 02:42:36,600 --> 02:42:38,840 Speaker 3: No free sponsors, so. 3372 02:42:40,160 --> 02:42:42,920 Speaker 4: Just a generalized energy drink. 3373 02:42:43,160 --> 02:42:46,800 Speaker 2: I am drinking sports drink today. Now. 3374 02:42:46,879 --> 02:42:49,440 Speaker 3: The first issue is that the texting started when my 3375 02:42:49,560 --> 02:42:52,119 Speaker 3: wife asked a friend for this guy's number and then 3376 02:42:52,200 --> 02:42:57,240 Speaker 3: started texting him randomly. Next she is always the one 3377 02:42:57,280 --> 02:43:00,160 Speaker 3: to text him first, and she double text him every 3378 02:43:00,240 --> 02:43:02,320 Speaker 3: time that he stops responding. 3379 02:43:02,480 --> 02:43:07,800 Speaker 4: Oh that's just well, that's like on their own separate plane. 3380 02:43:08,240 --> 02:43:09,359 Speaker 4: That's a little embarrassing. 3381 02:43:09,600 --> 02:43:16,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, honey, I wish I wish I were exaggerating, 3382 02:43:16,480 --> 02:43:19,800 Speaker 3: because he said every single time, Yeah, shield o, world's fawn. 3383 02:43:20,080 --> 02:43:22,360 Speaker 3: I've also never met this guy, don't know how old 3384 02:43:22,400 --> 02:43:24,240 Speaker 3: he is, don't know what he looks like. 3385 02:43:24,720 --> 02:43:27,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, honestly, I think even if it is innocent, 3386 02:43:27,760 --> 02:43:31,640 Speaker 4: that's a little bit or innocent seem Yeah, I think 3387 02:43:31,680 --> 02:43:34,800 Speaker 4: it's a little suspicious because you can tell, you can 3388 02:43:34,840 --> 02:43:39,160 Speaker 4: tell when something is, you know, flirty. Yeah, if it's 3389 02:43:39,200 --> 02:43:40,279 Speaker 4: not outright flirty. 3390 02:43:40,040 --> 02:43:42,240 Speaker 3: You can, especially if you're reading all of their like 3391 02:43:42,879 --> 02:43:46,200 Speaker 3: tens of thousands of texts, you could probably download the 3392 02:43:46,320 --> 02:43:48,240 Speaker 3: vibe of what's going on, right, Like, could you put 3393 02:43:48,280 --> 02:43:51,120 Speaker 3: yourself on the screen real quick. There's another there's another 3394 02:43:51,160 --> 02:43:54,600 Speaker 3: big issue here, Sophia. Op just said they don't know 3395 02:43:54,640 --> 02:43:58,320 Speaker 3: what the guy looks like. Unfortunately, it looks like this 3396 02:43:58,720 --> 02:44:02,600 Speaker 3: right here. It's you're gonna be you gotta be worried, Op, 3397 02:44:03,640 --> 02:44:06,000 Speaker 3: It's over. Sorry, buddy, Sorry buddy, Thank you right for 3398 02:44:06,120 --> 02:44:11,039 Speaker 3: let me use your beautiful face. Although the conversation seem innocent, 3399 02:44:11,160 --> 02:44:13,400 Speaker 3: it seems like she randomly texts him just to start 3400 02:44:13,440 --> 02:44:16,920 Speaker 3: a conversation, often tells him about her school drama, et cetera, 3401 02:44:17,040 --> 02:44:20,039 Speaker 3: et cetera. It also seems like I spend a lot 3402 02:44:20,040 --> 02:44:24,199 Speaker 3: of time at school together playing some card game, a card. 3403 02:44:23,959 --> 02:44:29,119 Speaker 1: Game, some card game, playing back game in all day. 3404 02:44:29,120 --> 02:44:30,440 Speaker 2: That game was not a card game, is it? 3405 02:44:31,400 --> 02:44:32,600 Speaker 4: I don't believe so. 3406 02:44:32,800 --> 02:44:33,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. 3407 02:44:33,879 --> 02:44:35,800 Speaker 4: I don't think so. Isn't it that one it's like 3408 02:44:35,800 --> 02:44:36,879 Speaker 4: a it's like a board. 3409 02:44:36,959 --> 02:44:37,119 Speaker 1: Yeah. 3410 02:44:37,200 --> 02:44:39,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like chess. 3411 02:44:38,360 --> 02:44:40,280 Speaker 4: And it's got like those little spikes on it. 3412 02:44:40,400 --> 02:44:42,920 Speaker 2: We're trying, y'all. We we're trying to remember what games 3413 02:44:42,959 --> 02:44:43,840 Speaker 2: are cards and knots. 3414 02:44:45,080 --> 02:44:46,800 Speaker 4: I know all the card games she does. 3415 02:44:47,320 --> 02:44:48,280 Speaker 2: Sophia is actually very good. 3416 02:44:48,400 --> 02:44:50,080 Speaker 4: I'm very good at card games. It's my only thing. 3417 02:44:52,600 --> 02:44:54,760 Speaker 3: Uh oh, put in the comments what a card game 3418 02:44:54,800 --> 02:44:56,039 Speaker 3: you think you could beat Sophia at? 3419 02:44:56,080 --> 02:45:00,440 Speaker 4: And I'll let you know that you won't think people 3420 02:45:00,440 --> 02:45:01,280 Speaker 4: to read me in. 3421 02:45:02,640 --> 02:45:05,080 Speaker 3: She has even left dinner with me early to go 3422 02:45:05,160 --> 02:45:07,920 Speaker 3: back to school and play cards with him. 3423 02:45:07,920 --> 02:45:11,960 Speaker 4: Whoa, whoa, what if I'm obsessed with cards? 3424 02:45:12,280 --> 02:45:12,920 Speaker 2: They just love it. 3425 02:45:13,240 --> 02:45:15,400 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the colic and the chat. They're like, hey, 3426 02:45:15,440 --> 02:45:19,400 Speaker 4: do you want to go play cards? That's actually a 3427 02:45:19,440 --> 02:45:20,080 Speaker 4: really good point. 3428 02:45:21,040 --> 02:45:27,640 Speaker 2: That's a tinfoil hackenspiracy. I don't know it's right there, you. 3429 02:45:27,600 --> 02:45:28,160 Speaker 1: Know, how like. 3430 02:45:30,560 --> 02:45:34,800 Speaker 5: You know how like there's a lot of like hard games. Yes, 3431 02:45:34,920 --> 02:45:37,360 Speaker 5: so like there's a lot of other things you could 3432 02:45:37,360 --> 02:45:40,560 Speaker 5: do when you're alone with people. So each card game 3433 02:45:40,640 --> 02:45:42,640 Speaker 5: is a different I think. 3434 02:45:43,040 --> 02:45:46,240 Speaker 3: Oh so they have they have specific code language. 3435 02:45:46,480 --> 02:45:52,400 Speaker 4: They're like, oh yeah, yes, solo so. 3436 02:45:54,520 --> 02:45:59,800 Speaker 3: No wait, oh I'm tired of playing and Solitaire. I'm 3437 02:45:59,800 --> 02:46:00,600 Speaker 3: ready to play. 3438 02:46:00,760 --> 02:46:04,480 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, They're like, I've been playing Solitaire for all week. 3439 02:46:05,440 --> 02:46:07,320 Speaker 4: Let's play war. 3440 02:46:08,040 --> 02:46:10,160 Speaker 2: Let's play Egyptian rat Slab. 3441 02:46:13,480 --> 02:46:18,640 Speaker 5: Rummy, go fish, not the fish? 3442 02:46:19,160 --> 02:46:21,400 Speaker 4: Are you wait? Are you listing just card games that 3443 02:46:21,400 --> 02:46:22,000 Speaker 4: they could be playing. 3444 02:46:22,040 --> 02:46:23,640 Speaker 5: I'm just trying to make in new windows out of 3445 02:46:23,720 --> 02:46:25,320 Speaker 5: these and it's the best way. 3446 02:46:25,200 --> 02:46:27,040 Speaker 2: We're trying to find out. We're trying to break their 3447 02:46:27,040 --> 02:46:27,440 Speaker 2: code here. 3448 02:46:27,520 --> 02:46:29,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, Sarah, I've been slacking. 3449 02:46:29,400 --> 02:46:32,440 Speaker 3: No sex, no guys, can you can you put down 3450 02:46:32,520 --> 02:46:35,600 Speaker 3: what code? What card games for? What code words you think. 3451 02:46:35,560 --> 02:46:36,200 Speaker 2: Is happening right now? 3452 02:46:36,240 --> 02:46:38,560 Speaker 5: I would love to see that Cards against Humanity. That's everything. 3453 02:46:38,640 --> 02:46:39,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's everything. 3454 02:46:39,520 --> 02:46:40,879 Speaker 3: That's that's that's an all of them. 3455 02:46:42,560 --> 02:46:45,199 Speaker 4: Is that a human It's Egyptian rat screw and Egyptian 3456 02:46:45,280 --> 02:46:48,800 Speaker 4: rat Slab. There are multiple names for this game. I've 3457 02:46:48,800 --> 02:46:49,400 Speaker 4: heard them. 3458 02:46:49,280 --> 02:46:54,480 Speaker 3: All that's true. Good one human, great user name. So 3459 02:46:54,800 --> 02:46:57,320 Speaker 3: she invites him to She invites him to spend one 3460 02:46:57,360 --> 02:46:59,720 Speaker 3: on one time, whether it's at school, at the bar, 3461 02:47:00,280 --> 02:47:03,039 Speaker 3: or wherever. When her parents came into town, she even 3462 02:47:03,040 --> 02:47:05,680 Speaker 3: invited this guy to the bar with her and her 3463 02:47:05,720 --> 02:47:07,400 Speaker 3: parents to meet the parents. 3464 02:47:07,440 --> 02:47:10,879 Speaker 4: She invitedly got the friend to meet her parents. 3465 02:47:10,959 --> 02:47:13,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta have my best friend meet my parents 3466 02:47:13,520 --> 02:47:21,760 Speaker 3: before I you know, before my husband. Joking further, she 3467 02:47:21,959 --> 02:47:25,680 Speaker 3: baked cookies for this guy, whoa Sophia. 3468 02:47:26,000 --> 02:47:27,280 Speaker 2: We have a master baker in the room. 3469 02:47:27,480 --> 02:47:29,280 Speaker 4: I would bake cookies. 3470 02:47:29,360 --> 02:47:33,039 Speaker 2: That's all right, an you heard it here first ladies 3471 02:47:33,040 --> 02:47:33,879 Speaker 2: and gentlemen. 3472 02:47:33,640 --> 02:47:35,920 Speaker 4: Actually bake cookies for everyone, So that's true. Yeah, I 3473 02:47:35,920 --> 02:47:37,840 Speaker 4: don't know. Maybe she was just baking cookies. And I 3474 02:47:37,879 --> 02:47:38,240 Speaker 4: don't know. 3475 02:47:38,640 --> 02:47:40,359 Speaker 2: It's it's I think these are targeted. 3476 02:47:40,560 --> 02:47:43,440 Speaker 4: If they're targeted, targeted cookies, that's a little I've never 3477 02:47:43,520 --> 02:47:44,600 Speaker 4: targeted my cookies. 3478 02:47:44,800 --> 02:47:47,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, hey everyone, it's open. 3479 02:47:48,600 --> 02:47:50,080 Speaker 4: It's open cookie call. 3480 02:47:50,360 --> 02:47:51,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, come on. 3481 02:47:53,560 --> 02:47:55,760 Speaker 3: She loves to bake, and I remember her one day 3482 02:47:55,840 --> 02:47:58,960 Speaker 3: baking a type of cookie that she had never baked before, 3483 02:48:00,040 --> 02:48:00,920 Speaker 3: special cookies. 3484 02:48:01,440 --> 02:48:04,039 Speaker 4: Why was I And I remember she baked a cookie 3485 02:48:04,120 --> 02:48:09,640 Speaker 4: she had never made before that was suspicious trying new recipes. 3486 02:48:09,760 --> 02:48:11,120 Speaker 2: It was September twenty fast. 3487 02:48:11,160 --> 02:48:16,040 Speaker 3: She had never seen a mecadamia in her life. While 3488 02:48:16,080 --> 02:48:17,879 Speaker 3: I assumed that she was baking them for a party 3489 02:48:17,920 --> 02:48:19,440 Speaker 3: that she was going to go to that night, the 3490 02:48:19,480 --> 02:48:22,160 Speaker 3: text showed me that she was baking them just. 3491 02:48:22,080 --> 02:48:24,440 Speaker 2: For this guy. Oh that's right, a party for two 3492 02:48:24,959 --> 02:48:25,480 Speaker 2: What is he. 3493 02:48:25,520 --> 02:48:26,800 Speaker 4: Still looking at the text. 3494 02:48:26,600 --> 02:48:30,280 Speaker 3: Chain he's referencing that. I think he's read the entire 3495 02:48:30,360 --> 02:48:32,360 Speaker 3: thing at this point. I think he's gone all the 3496 02:48:32,360 --> 02:48:35,280 Speaker 3: way top to bottom. What makes it worse is the 3497 02:48:35,320 --> 02:48:37,320 Speaker 3: fact that she went out of her way to do it. 3498 02:48:37,800 --> 02:48:39,920 Speaker 3: I had the car that night, so she walked to 3499 02:48:39,959 --> 02:48:43,279 Speaker 3: the store in the rain to get the ingredients, baked 3500 02:48:43,280 --> 02:48:45,920 Speaker 3: the cookies, and then brought them over to his apartment, 3501 02:48:45,959 --> 02:48:48,120 Speaker 3: where she stayed for two hours. 3502 02:48:48,280 --> 02:48:49,240 Speaker 4: She likes this guy? 3503 02:48:49,840 --> 02:48:53,520 Speaker 2: Yeah right, I mean does she like them? Throwing in 3504 02:48:53,560 --> 02:48:55,360 Speaker 2: the comments below? Does she like them? 3505 02:48:55,959 --> 02:48:59,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? 3506 02:48:59,400 --> 02:49:01,959 Speaker 2: She did go to the party afterwards, but only stayed 3507 02:49:01,959 --> 02:49:04,840 Speaker 2: for a few minutes to say high and then leave. 3508 02:49:05,640 --> 02:49:06,760 Speaker 4: She was making appearances. 3509 02:49:06,920 --> 02:49:09,240 Speaker 3: Oh no, she stayed at his house for two hours, 3510 02:49:09,280 --> 02:49:11,040 Speaker 3: and it literally stayed at the party for two minutes. 3511 02:49:11,120 --> 02:49:11,760 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 3512 02:49:12,640 --> 02:49:14,720 Speaker 3: One thing I've been a bit insecure about is the 3513 02:49:14,760 --> 02:49:18,360 Speaker 3: fact that my profession does not pay great. She lived 3514 02:49:18,400 --> 02:49:22,320 Speaker 3: a very privileged, privileged life scott lifestyle through her parents 3515 02:49:22,400 --> 02:49:24,760 Speaker 3: before meeting me, and she is in grad school for 3516 02:49:24,760 --> 02:49:29,160 Speaker 3: a profession that pays significantly more than mine, like five 3517 02:49:29,320 --> 02:49:30,720 Speaker 3: times what I make. 3518 02:49:31,080 --> 02:49:33,560 Speaker 1: Oh wow, she will make more. 3519 02:49:33,400 --> 02:49:38,480 Speaker 2: In her summer internship than I will make this entire year. Uh. 3520 02:49:38,640 --> 02:49:40,400 Speaker 4: I know he's signing insecure. 3521 02:49:39,959 --> 02:49:42,879 Speaker 3: Which is yeah, a lot of things are out of it. 3522 02:49:42,920 --> 02:49:47,199 Speaker 3: And mind you, this guy goes to her program aka 3523 02:49:47,360 --> 02:49:48,480 Speaker 3: will earn the same amount. 3524 02:49:48,959 --> 02:49:51,920 Speaker 4: Oh, Sam's here, Sam, he's here the corner. 3525 02:49:52,080 --> 02:49:54,600 Speaker 2: Yes, a little sneaky Sam. 3526 02:49:55,080 --> 02:49:58,880 Speaker 1: Hello altogether? 3527 02:49:59,480 --> 02:50:03,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? Oh yeah, we are. 3528 02:50:02,879 --> 02:50:10,080 Speaker 3: Yes, we are indubitably Yes, she is enthused. This guy 3529 02:50:10,160 --> 02:50:12,680 Speaker 3: that she is texting is in the same profession. 3530 02:50:12,840 --> 02:50:13,560 Speaker 2: So there you go. 3531 02:50:14,320 --> 02:50:16,880 Speaker 3: Reading these messages made me feel sick to my stomach. 3532 02:50:17,040 --> 02:50:18,600 Speaker 3: I just wanted to post here to see if this 3533 02:50:18,640 --> 02:50:21,680 Speaker 3: sounds fishy to anyone else. Oh I'm not sure if 3534 02:50:21,720 --> 02:50:25,000 Speaker 3: anything physical has happened, but she has crossed some boundaries 3535 02:50:25,040 --> 02:50:30,360 Speaker 3: either way. How should I handle this? And we do 3536 02:50:30,480 --> 02:50:35,280 Speaker 3: have a few little little edits, so quick edit the 3537 02:50:35,320 --> 02:50:38,279 Speaker 3: meetup with the parents never actually happened. She did try 3538 02:50:38,320 --> 02:50:41,360 Speaker 3: to get him to the bar, but that plan fell through. Also, 3539 02:50:41,440 --> 02:50:43,680 Speaker 3: in reading the text, it seems like the guy tried 3540 02:50:43,720 --> 02:50:47,600 Speaker 3: to keep her at arm's length at first, keeping conversations 3541 02:50:47,879 --> 02:50:51,120 Speaker 3: short and not engaging too much, but over time to 3542 02:50:51,200 --> 02:50:55,000 Speaker 3: becoming much much more repetitive and interested in actually talking. 3543 02:50:55,480 --> 02:50:59,000 Speaker 3: This all happened over the course of about five or 3544 02:50:59,160 --> 02:51:02,200 Speaker 3: six months. I'm not paying for a school, just our 3545 02:51:02,240 --> 02:51:05,480 Speaker 3: living expenses for the most part. We have an update, 3546 02:51:05,800 --> 02:51:08,560 Speaker 3: but we have Yeah, we have to pause here, and 3547 02:51:08,640 --> 02:51:10,760 Speaker 3: we just got same. We just got Sam Sam. 3548 02:51:10,800 --> 02:51:13,560 Speaker 4: We have to update him on everything that's going on. 3549 02:51:13,760 --> 02:51:17,240 Speaker 3: Yes, so are you ready for a little TLDR Sami boy. 3550 02:51:17,959 --> 02:51:25,040 Speaker 3: So basically, Op thirty mail uh is paying for his 3551 02:51:25,040 --> 02:51:26,720 Speaker 3: his lovely lady twenty five female. 3552 02:51:27,480 --> 02:51:28,480 Speaker 2: He's making all the money. 3553 02:51:28,480 --> 02:51:31,760 Speaker 3: She's going to school, and she started texting this guy 3554 02:51:32,320 --> 02:51:34,520 Speaker 3: seven am to midnight, seven days a week. 3555 02:51:35,800 --> 02:51:37,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, seven am to midnight, seven. 3556 02:51:37,480 --> 02:51:40,640 Speaker 3: Am to midnight, seven days a week. So it's a lot. 3557 02:51:40,920 --> 02:51:41,560 Speaker 3: It's a lot. 3558 02:51:41,920 --> 02:51:42,280 Speaker 2: Uh. 3559 02:51:42,320 --> 02:51:45,840 Speaker 3: So now we have to figure out if Opie should 3560 02:51:45,879 --> 02:51:46,600 Speaker 3: be worried or not. 3561 02:51:47,640 --> 02:51:49,320 Speaker 2: I think should op be worried or not? 3562 02:51:49,560 --> 02:51:53,560 Speaker 1: I mean, of course, right, is there even a question? 3563 02:51:53,920 --> 02:51:56,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's clear that she likes this guy. 3564 02:51:57,200 --> 02:51:59,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. I think Also, it seems like in the beginning 3565 02:52:00,440 --> 02:52:03,520 Speaker 4: the school friend was trying to maintain a boundary and 3566 02:52:03,560 --> 02:52:04,360 Speaker 4: then she was like no. 3567 02:52:05,240 --> 02:52:07,879 Speaker 3: I mean she was double texting him every time he 3568 02:52:07,920 --> 02:52:12,000 Speaker 3: didn't respond. Every time he read the entire six month 3569 02:52:12,120 --> 02:52:13,160 Speaker 3: chat history. 3570 02:52:13,840 --> 02:52:16,000 Speaker 1: In the in the post no no no. 3571 02:52:17,920 --> 02:52:22,520 Speaker 4: Story pictures from the entire chain for five months. 3572 02:52:22,160 --> 02:52:24,160 Speaker 3: He read them on his own to get the full 3573 02:52:24,240 --> 02:52:27,120 Speaker 3: download on like everything that happened basically. 3574 02:52:28,720 --> 02:52:29,760 Speaker 1: So that's rough. 3575 02:52:29,959 --> 02:52:33,320 Speaker 3: That is rough, right, Sophia, What do we what do 3576 02:52:33,360 --> 02:52:34,760 Speaker 3: we think, Oh, he should do at this point? 3577 02:52:35,760 --> 02:52:38,520 Speaker 4: I think that Op needs to talk to his. 3578 02:52:38,480 --> 02:52:41,680 Speaker 2: Girlfriend and he sit down, conversation, sit down. 3579 02:52:41,800 --> 02:52:45,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, I don't know. I don't like this funny 3580 02:52:45,240 --> 02:52:46,440 Speaker 4: business that's going on. 3581 02:52:46,560 --> 02:52:49,879 Speaker 2: None of that. Yeah, sit down, have a top. 3582 02:52:51,120 --> 02:52:52,240 Speaker 4: It seems like he's going. 3583 02:52:52,040 --> 02:52:55,879 Speaker 3: There, put your beautiful face on. There also also a 3584 02:52:56,000 --> 02:52:56,879 Speaker 3: very important information. 3585 02:52:57,680 --> 02:53:00,600 Speaker 2: So the other guy looks like, looks like this, Oh 3586 02:53:00,640 --> 02:53:03,880 Speaker 2: my gosh, looks like that second time. So it's it's 3587 02:53:04,120 --> 02:53:06,760 Speaker 2: it's it's an issue. It's over. Give up now, right, 3588 02:53:06,840 --> 02:53:07,480 Speaker 2: and give up now? 3589 02:53:08,160 --> 02:53:10,320 Speaker 3: Knowing that the man looks exactly like you and it's 3590 02:53:10,360 --> 02:53:15,120 Speaker 3: equally a sexy What should op do in the scenario, Riley, I. 3591 02:53:15,240 --> 02:53:19,039 Speaker 5: Should run or fight him. But if he looks like me, 3592 02:53:19,120 --> 02:53:19,720 Speaker 5: he's gonna. 3593 02:53:19,560 --> 02:53:20,040 Speaker 1: Have a hard time. 3594 02:53:20,360 --> 02:53:22,320 Speaker 3: He's going to be too powerful, Riley, he looks like you, 3595 02:53:22,360 --> 02:53:24,720 Speaker 3: he's going to be too strong. So all you all 3596 02:53:24,760 --> 02:53:28,119 Speaker 3: you can do is so seriously, like do you try 3597 02:53:28,120 --> 02:53:29,119 Speaker 3: to do you try to sit down? 3598 02:53:29,160 --> 02:53:29,640 Speaker 2: And I would. 3599 02:53:29,720 --> 02:53:31,640 Speaker 5: I would try to sit down and first talk to 3600 02:53:31,720 --> 02:53:34,520 Speaker 5: his it's wife, right, why, Yeah, I would talk to 3601 02:53:34,520 --> 02:53:37,240 Speaker 5: the wife, be like, hey, I don't feel comfortable with this, 3602 02:53:37,760 --> 02:53:42,320 Speaker 5: and then after that, if it's not working, like try 3603 02:53:42,360 --> 02:53:44,440 Speaker 5: to get the parents involved, maybe because like I don't 3604 02:53:44,680 --> 02:53:48,240 Speaker 5: also the parents, let's talk about that. 3605 02:53:48,400 --> 02:53:49,560 Speaker 1: But what's talk about it? 3606 02:53:49,840 --> 02:53:53,200 Speaker 5: Why Why are we hanging out with Opie's parents at 3607 02:53:53,200 --> 02:53:55,120 Speaker 5: the bar with her friend? 3608 02:53:55,200 --> 02:53:57,320 Speaker 2: Like that's yeah, it's a little weird. 3609 02:53:57,360 --> 02:53:58,959 Speaker 5: Why are they letting that go? I know she's like 3610 02:53:58,959 --> 02:54:01,320 Speaker 5: twenty five and he's like thirty, but still like people 3611 02:54:01,400 --> 02:54:03,640 Speaker 5: should have developed brains by now and know better. 3612 02:54:03,840 --> 02:54:05,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, we talked about this in some of the earlier 3613 02:54:05,840 --> 02:54:08,840 Speaker 4: stories that Riley and I filmed this morning were Yeah, 3614 02:54:09,040 --> 02:54:12,400 Speaker 4: people old people don't have developed brains. 3615 02:54:12,440 --> 02:54:15,280 Speaker 1: Someone commented on the livestream is like, these people are 3616 02:54:15,600 --> 02:54:18,920 Speaker 1: thirty plus, should they should know better, They should know 3617 02:54:18,920 --> 02:54:21,200 Speaker 1: how to communicate, but they don't. They're acting like this. 3618 02:54:21,520 --> 02:54:24,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah they are red flag. 3619 02:54:24,200 --> 02:54:25,680 Speaker 2: They are thirty and twenty five. 3620 02:54:25,760 --> 02:54:28,680 Speaker 5: But try to talk some cinciner If you can't, not 3621 02:54:28,959 --> 02:54:32,240 Speaker 5: the person you want to be with. Exactly, baking cookies 3622 02:54:32,280 --> 02:54:34,959 Speaker 5: for the people. I would have left that personally as 3623 02:54:35,000 --> 02:54:37,920 Speaker 5: soon as the cookies drop. That was the final straw, Riley. 3624 02:54:37,920 --> 02:54:40,039 Speaker 5: Maybe scroll scroll through some of the comments that we 3625 02:54:40,040 --> 02:54:42,880 Speaker 5: can see here. Let's see here. 3626 02:54:42,920 --> 02:54:46,160 Speaker 3: So we got from Gracie Mecca just give up yep, 3627 02:54:46,240 --> 02:54:49,120 Speaker 3: laughing emoji. You know that does seem to be a 3628 02:54:49,160 --> 02:54:52,440 Speaker 3: common thread on burning Rose John stopped bowling, Riley. It 3629 02:54:52,520 --> 02:54:54,360 Speaker 3: is actually me loving him to death and thinking he 3630 02:54:54,400 --> 02:54:55,000 Speaker 3: is so beautiful. 3631 02:54:55,000 --> 02:54:56,080 Speaker 5: You should see us off camera. 3632 02:54:56,120 --> 02:54:58,160 Speaker 1: That's it's like a big brother relationship. 3633 02:54:58,280 --> 02:54:58,720 Speaker 2: That's right. 3634 02:54:58,760 --> 02:55:01,800 Speaker 3: That's right, Lady John is my fave. Not gonna lie. 3635 02:55:01,840 --> 02:55:04,360 Speaker 3: Those glorious locks are better than mine? What products does 3636 02:55:04,360 --> 02:55:04,760 Speaker 3: he use? 3637 02:55:05,160 --> 02:55:09,120 Speaker 2: Y'all? No free sponsors? All right, you can't. We can't 3638 02:55:09,120 --> 02:55:09,720 Speaker 2: even do that. 3639 02:55:10,640 --> 02:55:12,119 Speaker 4: And choosing what kind of comics? 3640 02:55:12,200 --> 02:55:16,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's reading the ones that are flattering himself, not 3641 02:55:16,160 --> 02:55:16,480 Speaker 3: not me. 3642 02:55:16,640 --> 02:55:18,520 Speaker 2: Kicking off the comment reading on this one, what. 3643 02:55:18,480 --> 02:55:22,560 Speaker 4: About the comment from CM that said they really love 3644 02:55:22,640 --> 02:55:23,160 Speaker 4: red vines? 3645 02:55:23,959 --> 02:55:28,040 Speaker 2: Uh, so let's have a quick conversation. Red vines are disgusting. 3646 02:55:28,320 --> 02:55:31,240 Speaker 3: Uh and anyone who likes them is just an incorrect 3647 02:55:31,320 --> 02:55:31,879 Speaker 3: human being. 3648 02:55:31,800 --> 02:55:33,920 Speaker 1: Because you're you're on Twizzler game. I am. 3649 02:55:34,160 --> 02:55:34,959 Speaker 2: I am team Twist. 3650 02:55:34,959 --> 02:55:36,920 Speaker 1: Whistlers taste like plastic bro. 3651 02:55:37,360 --> 02:55:41,480 Speaker 3: That tastes like chalk, that tastes like so good. 3652 02:55:41,720 --> 02:55:43,760 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I will. 3653 02:55:43,600 --> 02:55:46,520 Speaker 3: Accept No, I can't accept anything. 3654 02:55:46,520 --> 02:55:48,320 Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, I accept anything. 3655 02:55:48,400 --> 02:55:52,280 Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, Twizzlers are red vine because these are Twizzlers suck? 3656 02:55:53,280 --> 02:55:54,560 Speaker 1: Are you talking about my boys? 3657 02:55:54,959 --> 02:55:55,160 Speaker 2: Wait? 3658 02:55:57,320 --> 02:55:59,879 Speaker 3: CM, come on, come come to the come to the lights. 3659 02:56:00,080 --> 02:56:01,080 Speaker 3: Anyone else do we have? 3660 02:56:01,560 --> 02:56:04,320 Speaker 2: Okay? Red vines and Twizzlers are red flags? 3661 02:56:04,360 --> 02:56:07,680 Speaker 4: Oh no, see, I am a proponent of the age 3662 02:56:07,720 --> 02:56:12,879 Speaker 4: old Red Vine fan club from stark Kid, which you 3663 02:56:12,879 --> 02:56:16,119 Speaker 4: guys won't know, but hope. Yeah, if you've seen star Khit, 3664 02:56:16,200 --> 02:56:17,840 Speaker 4: you know you know all about the red vines. 3665 02:56:17,920 --> 02:56:19,000 Speaker 2: I have no idea what that is. 3666 02:56:19,720 --> 02:56:21,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, a very pun of musical. 3667 02:56:22,000 --> 02:56:24,320 Speaker 3: All I know is that bed Wolf said Twizzlers. That's 3668 02:56:24,360 --> 02:56:27,320 Speaker 3: that's all I know, you know, all liquorice is gross. 3669 02:56:27,879 --> 02:56:29,560 Speaker 3: I never even thought about that possibility. 3670 02:56:29,720 --> 02:56:33,920 Speaker 4: I actually I think beyond twizzlers and red vines, I 3671 02:56:33,959 --> 02:56:35,960 Speaker 4: prefer like the real to you know, like the liquors 3672 02:56:36,000 --> 02:56:37,080 Speaker 4: that you get from Trader Joe's. 3673 02:56:38,040 --> 02:56:40,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even know. So strong. It's almost like 3674 02:56:40,720 --> 02:56:44,520 Speaker 2: alcohol and a yeah twisty two. It is strong. It's strong. 3675 02:56:45,000 --> 02:56:45,680 Speaker 4: There's an update. 3676 02:56:45,959 --> 02:56:51,240 Speaker 2: There is an updates which Sam's face is needed to access. 3677 02:56:51,600 --> 02:56:55,160 Speaker 1: Everyone has my phone and computer in here, so I 3678 02:56:55,600 --> 02:56:56,320 Speaker 1: have nothing. 3679 02:56:56,800 --> 02:56:59,520 Speaker 2: He does nothing. I have nothing, well my red vines. 3680 02:57:00,240 --> 02:57:04,400 Speaker 2: Here we go. So update. I ended up deleting the 3681 02:57:04,400 --> 02:57:06,959 Speaker 2: original post. Sorry, but I was able. 3682 02:57:07,040 --> 02:57:08,840 Speaker 3: But I was able to have a conversation with a 3683 02:57:08,879 --> 02:57:14,800 Speaker 3: guy that she has been texting. I got his number 3684 02:57:14,920 --> 02:57:20,119 Speaker 3: off of her phone and just texted him saying, heys, 3685 02:57:20,560 --> 02:57:24,039 Speaker 3: this is my wife's husband. I caught wind of what's 3686 02:57:24,080 --> 02:57:25,880 Speaker 3: been going on between you two and just wanted to 3687 02:57:25,920 --> 02:57:27,959 Speaker 3: see if you'd be willing to be honest with me. 3688 02:57:28,080 --> 02:57:29,680 Speaker 2: About what has happened. 3689 02:57:30,879 --> 02:57:34,360 Speaker 3: He responded pretty quickly and was willing to meet with 3690 02:57:34,400 --> 02:57:37,600 Speaker 3: me for lunch in a public place. So we met. 3691 02:57:39,360 --> 02:57:41,360 Speaker 3: Are you ready for this next part? Are you ready 3692 02:57:41,360 --> 02:57:42,960 Speaker 3: for this next part. Are you ready for this next part? 3693 02:57:44,120 --> 02:57:45,680 Speaker 1: Can we can we conspiracy theorize? 3694 02:57:45,680 --> 02:57:47,280 Speaker 2: All right, all right, let's get the hats. Let's get 3695 02:57:47,280 --> 02:57:50,119 Speaker 2: the hats, break them out, break them out. 3696 02:57:50,200 --> 02:57:55,840 Speaker 4: Okay, I don't get. 3697 02:57:55,200 --> 02:58:00,000 Speaker 2: There. We go, nice brow. What have we got? Sam? 3698 02:57:59,840 --> 02:58:04,879 Speaker 1: I think red flag that he is asking for a 3699 02:58:05,000 --> 02:58:09,400 Speaker 1: public place, like specifically not not, because I feel like 3700 02:58:09,440 --> 02:58:14,160 Speaker 1: that means there's gonna be some crazy revelations of what 3701 02:58:14,280 --> 02:58:18,800 Speaker 1: has happened, because you wouldn't like if it like, you know, yeah, 3702 02:58:18,840 --> 02:58:21,720 Speaker 1: he's liked because what I'm about to say is going 3703 02:58:21,760 --> 02:58:24,360 Speaker 1: to piss you off that you're gonna want to kill me. Yeah, 3704 02:58:24,360 --> 02:58:26,080 Speaker 1: but we're gonna be in a public place, so you can't. 3705 02:58:26,400 --> 02:58:29,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. Red flag is in like a warning sign of 3706 02:58:29,160 --> 02:58:29,680 Speaker 2: what's to come. 3707 02:58:29,879 --> 02:58:32,640 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I feel I feel like there's gonna be 3708 02:58:32,760 --> 02:58:35,800 Speaker 1: some some sauce that is spilt in the public. 3709 02:58:35,840 --> 02:58:36,760 Speaker 2: What do you think the sauces? 3710 02:58:37,480 --> 02:58:44,560 Speaker 1: Cheating chocolate sauce for the cookies, for the cookies. 3711 02:58:44,840 --> 02:58:46,279 Speaker 2: It all comes back. 3712 02:58:46,160 --> 02:58:47,960 Speaker 4: To the cookiesies. 3713 02:58:48,000 --> 02:58:49,840 Speaker 2: All right, guys, are you ready? You got y'all? Aren't 3714 02:58:49,879 --> 02:58:52,080 Speaker 2: ready for this next line? It's too perfect. 3715 02:58:52,520 --> 02:58:56,520 Speaker 3: He is twenty three years old and a very good 3716 02:58:56,560 --> 02:58:59,000 Speaker 3: looking man. I happen to know someone else that is 3717 02:58:59,040 --> 02:59:03,119 Speaker 3: those exact same things, eh, he. 3718 02:59:03,080 --> 02:59:05,320 Speaker 4: Said, Oh, he was like, he's twenty three and he's high. 3719 02:59:05,640 --> 02:59:10,760 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, he literally can't help it, he said, I'll 3720 02:59:10,760 --> 02:59:11,200 Speaker 3: give him that. 3721 02:59:11,320 --> 02:59:12,840 Speaker 2: He can't help. He can't help, but it acknowledge it. 3722 02:59:12,879 --> 02:59:13,480 Speaker 4: I'll give him that. 3723 02:59:13,720 --> 02:59:15,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gorgeous. 3724 02:59:15,959 --> 02:59:18,440 Speaker 3: When we met for lunch, I started the conversation by 3725 02:59:18,480 --> 02:59:21,120 Speaker 3: asking him if he could give me his perspective on 3726 02:59:21,200 --> 02:59:24,440 Speaker 3: what's been happening between him and my wife. He started 3727 02:59:24,560 --> 02:59:29,960 Speaker 3: with a disclaimer that nothing physical has happened between them, 3728 02:59:30,080 --> 02:59:33,400 Speaker 3: and honestly, I believe him. He seems like a decent guy. 3729 02:59:33,760 --> 02:59:35,920 Speaker 3: He told me he respects me and never wanted to 3730 02:59:35,920 --> 02:59:38,240 Speaker 3: get involved with a married woman. And he started the 3731 02:59:38,280 --> 02:59:41,480 Speaker 3: story from the very beginning. I'll tell it as if 3732 02:59:41,520 --> 02:59:45,680 Speaker 3: he were telling it five months ago. It goes like this, 3733 02:59:46,000 --> 02:59:49,440 Speaker 3: and that is a direct quote. I approached her at 3734 02:59:49,440 --> 02:59:52,080 Speaker 3: the beginning of school because I found her attractive. I 3735 02:59:52,080 --> 02:59:54,800 Speaker 3: don't remember whether she was wearing a wedding ring. I'm 3736 02:59:54,800 --> 02:59:56,800 Speaker 3: not used to checking for that because most people my 3737 02:59:56,879 --> 02:59:58,480 Speaker 3: age generally aren't married. 3738 02:59:59,280 --> 02:59:59,640 Speaker 2: Is that true? 3739 02:59:59,720 --> 03:00:04,160 Speaker 5: Rally, yeah, yeah, yeah, But the women I look for 3740 03:00:04,600 --> 03:00:05,440 Speaker 5: oh kind of. 3741 03:00:05,879 --> 03:00:06,680 Speaker 2: There there you go. 3742 03:00:08,480 --> 03:00:11,800 Speaker 1: Well, because they're older, they're older, that was the jo. No, 3743 03:00:11,959 --> 03:00:14,000 Speaker 1: that doesn't know it means you're just in the married 3744 03:00:14,040 --> 03:00:19,160 Speaker 1: women bro older women married? Why are they're older married woman? 3745 03:00:20,080 --> 03:00:22,680 Speaker 5: I'm just saying I'm like the type of women that 3746 03:00:22,720 --> 03:00:26,400 Speaker 5: I'm looking for or older the state probably have wedding rings. 3747 03:00:26,400 --> 03:00:27,720 Speaker 5: But if they're older, they don't have one. 3748 03:00:27,720 --> 03:00:30,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, hello, there it is. 3749 03:00:30,640 --> 03:00:32,760 Speaker 1: I just heard Riley hits on women with wedding ring. 3750 03:00:35,040 --> 03:00:38,480 Speaker 5: I'm a gentleman. I'm a gentleman. I'm a gentleman. I 3751 03:00:38,480 --> 03:00:45,039 Speaker 5: would never but gemini gentlemen, what does that have to 3752 03:00:45,080 --> 03:00:45,600 Speaker 5: do with anything. 3753 03:00:45,680 --> 03:00:47,480 Speaker 4: I'm a Gemini. I would never. 3754 03:00:48,760 --> 03:00:51,840 Speaker 1: Missus. Sella Davis says, big protein on the prowl for 3755 03:00:52,000 --> 03:00:54,760 Speaker 1: some feisty cougars. 3756 03:00:54,160 --> 03:00:58,040 Speaker 5: Dude, I am close to Malibu. If you know any hookers, 3757 03:00:58,080 --> 03:01:01,480 Speaker 5: please let me know, let me know me, I will 3758 03:01:01,520 --> 03:01:03,800 Speaker 5: talk to them. Yeah, sorry, go ahead. 3759 03:01:05,400 --> 03:01:05,560 Speaker 1: Date. 3760 03:01:06,440 --> 03:01:11,240 Speaker 3: But when I approached her, this is again the possible 3761 03:01:11,280 --> 03:01:17,240 Speaker 3: affair partner, she seemed very interested. Absolutely zero indication from 3762 03:01:17,280 --> 03:01:19,800 Speaker 3: her part that she made that she may have been 3763 03:01:19,800 --> 03:01:22,760 Speaker 3: in a relationship. When she found out I had a 3764 03:01:22,800 --> 03:01:27,000 Speaker 3: post job, a post grad job offer. She was overly 3765 03:01:27,120 --> 03:01:29,959 Speaker 3: congratulatory back to the money. 3766 03:01:29,840 --> 03:01:30,760 Speaker 4: She made him cookies. 3767 03:01:32,040 --> 03:01:34,440 Speaker 3: After talking to her more over the next few days, 3768 03:01:34,600 --> 03:01:37,640 Speaker 3: I asked for her Instagram, which she seemed hesitant to give, 3769 03:01:37,920 --> 03:01:39,439 Speaker 3: but she gave me her Instagram. 3770 03:01:39,120 --> 03:01:41,000 Speaker 4: Anyways because she didn't want him to find out that 3771 03:01:41,280 --> 03:01:42,160 Speaker 4: she had a partner. 3772 03:01:42,440 --> 03:01:46,840 Speaker 3: Yes, true, always observant. When I followed her, I immediately 3773 03:01:46,879 --> 03:01:49,400 Speaker 3: realized that she was married. I was floored due to 3774 03:01:49,400 --> 03:01:52,920 Speaker 3: her behavior, but I decided to fall back. After falling back, 3775 03:01:53,000 --> 03:01:55,440 Speaker 3: I heard from some mutual friends that she seemed to 3776 03:01:55,440 --> 03:01:57,680 Speaker 3: be a bit offended that I stopped talking to her 3777 03:01:57,800 --> 03:02:00,840 Speaker 3: after finding out that she was married. I found that 3778 03:02:00,959 --> 03:02:04,360 Speaker 3: a bit strange, but whatever, some drama transpired, so I 3779 03:02:04,440 --> 03:02:06,480 Speaker 3: went out of my way to avoid her for about 3780 03:02:06,520 --> 03:02:09,039 Speaker 3: a month or so. But after a while, I felt 3781 03:02:09,040 --> 03:02:12,120 Speaker 3: the beef was a waste of time, so I decided 3782 03:02:12,240 --> 03:02:14,640 Speaker 3: to give her a compliment to kind of communicate that 3783 03:02:14,760 --> 03:02:16,440 Speaker 3: I don't mind being cordial with her. 3784 03:02:18,160 --> 03:02:19,640 Speaker 2: Hey, you look sexy today. 3785 03:02:20,200 --> 03:02:23,039 Speaker 1: Your eyes remind me be able to sea, and I want. 3786 03:02:22,840 --> 03:02:25,640 Speaker 2: To swim beef over. The beef has been ended. 3787 03:02:26,640 --> 03:02:30,280 Speaker 3: She seemed ecstatic about the compliments, and I heard from 3788 03:02:30,360 --> 03:02:33,400 Speaker 3: mutual friends that she was going around telling people that 3789 03:02:33,440 --> 03:02:34,000 Speaker 3: we were friends. 3790 03:02:34,040 --> 03:02:37,240 Speaker 2: Again. I also found that strange. I just wanted to 3791 03:02:37,240 --> 03:02:38,760 Speaker 2: be cordial, so. 3792 03:02:38,680 --> 03:02:43,000 Speaker 3: He started with a compliment. Come on, like be like, hey, uh, 3793 03:02:44,080 --> 03:02:47,200 Speaker 3: how's it going? I don't know, like anything talk yeah, 3794 03:02:47,280 --> 03:02:50,160 Speaker 3: small talk, small talk. Oh this man, this test has 3795 03:02:50,200 --> 03:02:52,160 Speaker 3: been hard this semester. Like, how's it been going? 3796 03:02:53,600 --> 03:02:54,640 Speaker 2: Did you get yeah? 3797 03:02:56,520 --> 03:02:56,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? 3798 03:02:56,800 --> 03:02:57,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, any tips? 3799 03:02:58,240 --> 03:02:59,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? 3800 03:02:59,480 --> 03:03:01,959 Speaker 2: I got it for you. Oh god, there he is. 3801 03:03:03,240 --> 03:03:04,440 Speaker 2: I just wanted to be cordial. 3802 03:03:04,600 --> 03:03:07,600 Speaker 3: Anyways, we made up, and shortly thereafter I got random 3803 03:03:07,640 --> 03:03:10,440 Speaker 3: text from her telling me that she got my number 3804 03:03:10,560 --> 03:03:11,560 Speaker 3: from someone else. 3805 03:03:12,320 --> 03:03:14,599 Speaker 2: Third thing that I found strange. 3806 03:03:14,400 --> 03:03:18,680 Speaker 4: That everyone's getting this guy's number. Second party. 3807 03:03:18,959 --> 03:03:21,720 Speaker 2: Again, he's a little he's a little beautiful, so it's hard. 3808 03:03:21,800 --> 03:03:23,040 Speaker 2: It's a gorgeous yes. 3809 03:03:24,040 --> 03:03:27,440 Speaker 3: The text started pretty infrequent, but gradually progressed to her 3810 03:03:27,480 --> 03:03:31,320 Speaker 3: texting him every single day, double texting at all. She 3811 03:03:31,480 --> 03:03:35,120 Speaker 3: even seemed really pressed about me meeting her parents when 3812 03:03:35,120 --> 03:03:37,879 Speaker 3: they came into town, again, me being, you know, the. 3813 03:03:38,160 --> 03:03:40,360 Speaker 2: Not a fair partner. Gorgeous Yes, the gorgeous guy. 3814 03:03:40,800 --> 03:03:43,640 Speaker 3: I am still not sure that what that was even about, 3815 03:03:43,680 --> 03:03:46,000 Speaker 3: but I dodged the invite and it never happened. 3816 03:03:46,320 --> 03:03:48,120 Speaker 2: So he was the reason that never happened. Good to know. 3817 03:03:48,600 --> 03:03:48,840 Speaker 1: Hey. 3818 03:03:49,000 --> 03:03:51,560 Speaker 3: At this point, it seemed like she was very interested 3819 03:03:51,600 --> 03:03:54,440 Speaker 3: in me, but I was, but I wasn't very responsive 3820 03:03:54,480 --> 03:03:56,240 Speaker 3: over text because she is married. 3821 03:03:56,640 --> 03:04:00,039 Speaker 2: Over time, however, my wall broke down slowly. 3822 03:03:59,720 --> 03:04:03,240 Speaker 3: Because as I did enjoy the attention, she's inviting me 3823 03:04:03,320 --> 03:04:05,800 Speaker 3: to hang out one on one playing cards with me, 3824 03:04:06,240 --> 03:04:12,280 Speaker 3: offering to bake me cookies. I mean, these just good 3825 03:04:12,280 --> 03:04:16,400 Speaker 3: old fashioned cards we asked people to I don't know 3826 03:04:16,400 --> 03:04:19,160 Speaker 3: if we had any, but put in euphemisms for card 3827 03:04:19,240 --> 03:04:20,199 Speaker 3: games that they had. 3828 03:04:21,280 --> 03:04:23,400 Speaker 2: We did. We did see Egyptian ratscrew. 3829 03:04:25,000 --> 03:04:26,680 Speaker 4: Oh is that a joke? I thought you. 3830 03:04:27,280 --> 03:04:28,560 Speaker 2: Oh no, oh no that. 3831 03:04:30,440 --> 03:04:33,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a Gyptian rat slap and Egyptian rat screw. 3832 03:04:33,120 --> 03:04:38,080 Speaker 2: Well those both work in that and that's the strip poker. 3833 03:04:38,240 --> 03:04:41,760 Speaker 2: There you go, okay, Space spades, spades, question mark. 3834 03:04:42,160 --> 03:04:44,520 Speaker 5: I think baby slap jack. 3835 03:04:46,280 --> 03:04:48,959 Speaker 2: There we go. Some someone's jack is getting slapped. 3836 03:04:49,520 --> 03:04:52,240 Speaker 3: She told me how upset she was over the fact 3837 03:04:52,280 --> 03:04:55,600 Speaker 3: that apparently you two had planned a trip for Thanksgiving 3838 03:04:55,640 --> 03:04:58,279 Speaker 3: to see her friends, but didn't end up going because 3839 03:04:58,280 --> 03:05:01,120 Speaker 3: of a tight budget. She also told me that she 3840 03:05:01,120 --> 03:05:04,840 Speaker 3: would sleep on the couch a lot this's a lot 3841 03:05:04,879 --> 03:05:07,680 Speaker 3: of information to share in your class. 3842 03:05:07,760 --> 03:05:09,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 3843 03:05:09,720 --> 03:05:10,000 Speaker 2: Nice. 3844 03:05:10,640 --> 03:05:12,720 Speaker 3: We didn't talk much over the final exams due to 3845 03:05:12,760 --> 03:05:14,680 Speaker 3: being busy, and we really didn't talk much over the 3846 03:05:14,680 --> 03:05:17,560 Speaker 3: winter break. However, at the start of the new semester, 3847 03:05:17,840 --> 03:05:21,280 Speaker 3: the texting all day, every day and double texting came 3848 03:05:21,320 --> 03:05:24,360 Speaker 3: back in full force. At this point, I kind of 3849 03:05:24,360 --> 03:05:28,560 Speaker 3: felt like she was pursuing me, but I enjoyed the attention. 3850 03:05:29,040 --> 03:05:31,120 Speaker 3: She baked me the cookies the first week of school, 3851 03:05:31,440 --> 03:05:33,800 Speaker 3: brought them over and sat on my bed for over 3852 03:05:33,879 --> 03:05:38,560 Speaker 3: two hours, but nothing physical happened, but. 3853 03:05:39,120 --> 03:05:41,960 Speaker 1: She wanted something physical to happen, for sure. You don't 3854 03:05:41,959 --> 03:05:43,760 Speaker 1: sit on someone's bed for two hours. 3855 03:05:44,000 --> 03:05:45,160 Speaker 2: It's comfortable. 3856 03:05:46,600 --> 03:05:49,600 Speaker 4: Two hours before the party, Yeah. 3857 03:05:49,400 --> 03:05:53,039 Speaker 2: For two minutes, Like come on, yeah, she's not She's. 3858 03:05:52,920 --> 03:05:54,680 Speaker 4: Not interested in relationship with her husband anymore. 3859 03:05:54,760 --> 03:05:58,280 Speaker 3: Does Well, here's here's what a Beautiful man goes on 3860 03:05:58,320 --> 03:06:01,840 Speaker 3: to say. She honestly didn't see interested and sex at all, 3861 03:06:02,240 --> 03:06:04,120 Speaker 3: even though I kind of wanted it to happen at 3862 03:06:04,120 --> 03:06:08,279 Speaker 3: that point. But here we are now. She still texts 3863 03:06:08,320 --> 03:06:11,200 Speaker 3: me every day, and honestly it has become more frequent 3864 03:06:11,240 --> 03:06:15,720 Speaker 3: than ever before. That is the end of Beautiful Man's story, 3865 03:06:16,320 --> 03:06:17,920 Speaker 3: maybe we take a quick pause right there. 3866 03:06:19,080 --> 03:06:23,440 Speaker 4: The beautiful man, I think, regardless of whether it's like 3867 03:06:23,480 --> 03:06:26,400 Speaker 4: there's a physical aspect to the relationship, I think it's 3868 03:06:26,440 --> 03:06:27,360 Speaker 4: still emotion cheating. 3869 03:06:28,320 --> 03:06:32,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, like it's I think at this point, like 3870 03:06:32,920 --> 03:06:36,120 Speaker 3: do we think I mean, definitely the woman has like 3871 03:06:36,280 --> 03:06:40,040 Speaker 3: pursued him heavily, But is a beautiful man still in 3872 03:06:40,400 --> 03:06:41,040 Speaker 3: the wrong here? 3873 03:06:41,680 --> 03:06:47,359 Speaker 1: I mean I think slightly, slightly because he knew. 3874 03:06:47,560 --> 03:06:49,640 Speaker 4: Slightly because he knew that there was a husband in 3875 03:06:49,640 --> 03:06:52,400 Speaker 4: the picture. But I think it's like obviously more on 3876 03:06:52,840 --> 03:06:55,480 Speaker 4: the people in the relationships. 3877 03:06:55,200 --> 03:06:56,520 Speaker 2: From a woman's perspective. 3878 03:06:56,640 --> 03:06:58,720 Speaker 4: From a woman, I am a woman. 3879 03:06:58,600 --> 03:07:04,720 Speaker 3: What do you think beautiful man should have done? 3880 03:07:05,160 --> 03:07:08,080 Speaker 4: I mean, I've been in this situation where, like I thought, 3881 03:07:08,160 --> 03:07:12,440 Speaker 4: I was like talking to someone in like a friendship aspect, 3882 03:07:12,480 --> 03:07:13,480 Speaker 4: you had a partner. 3883 03:07:15,400 --> 03:07:16,600 Speaker 2: Are we talking about Belgium? 3884 03:07:16,640 --> 03:07:20,560 Speaker 1: Boy, this is a different scenario where this happened because. 3885 03:07:20,480 --> 03:07:23,840 Speaker 4: I thought because like we were we had like the 3886 03:07:23,959 --> 03:07:28,000 Speaker 4: you know, theater stuff and seven, so I would see 3887 03:07:28,040 --> 03:07:30,360 Speaker 4: him reach all the time, and so I was like, yeah, 3888 03:07:30,400 --> 03:07:32,160 Speaker 4: this is my friend. And I literally like I was like, 3889 03:07:32,200 --> 03:07:35,640 Speaker 4: this is my older brother type figure. And I remember 3890 03:07:35,720 --> 03:07:38,080 Speaker 4: actually one time he was like, I'm not your older 3891 03:07:38,120 --> 03:07:42,119 Speaker 4: brother with which should have been his son him. Well, 3892 03:07:42,160 --> 03:07:45,760 Speaker 4: because I was and he was older than man. 3893 03:07:46,280 --> 03:07:47,120 Speaker 1: He was in a relationship. 3894 03:07:47,680 --> 03:07:50,800 Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, we were pals. And then I 3895 03:07:50,800 --> 03:07:52,440 Speaker 4: found out that he cheated on his girlfriend, and I 3896 03:07:52,440 --> 03:07:55,279 Speaker 4: was like, he's getting a little too you know friendly. 3897 03:07:55,320 --> 03:07:57,200 Speaker 4: I was like, okay, this, yeah, so I would have 3898 03:07:57,240 --> 03:07:59,080 Speaker 4: pulled if I was gorgeous guy, I would have. 3899 03:07:59,000 --> 03:07:59,960 Speaker 2: Pulled back, pulled back. 3900 03:08:00,280 --> 03:08:01,320 Speaker 1: How is he getting too friendly? 3901 03:08:01,400 --> 03:08:01,840 Speaker 2: What happened? 3902 03:08:02,160 --> 03:08:03,800 Speaker 4: He was not not in the sense that he was, 3903 03:08:03,840 --> 03:08:06,279 Speaker 4: you know, trying to start anything, but he was texting 3904 03:08:06,320 --> 03:08:08,160 Speaker 4: me a lot and stuff. And I was like, and 3905 03:08:08,680 --> 03:08:10,600 Speaker 4: after I found out that he had cheated on his girlfriend, 3906 03:08:10,640 --> 03:08:11,160 Speaker 4: I was like this. 3907 03:08:11,160 --> 03:08:13,199 Speaker 2: You know it all be the glass was broken. 3908 03:08:13,360 --> 03:08:13,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 3909 03:08:13,640 --> 03:08:15,000 Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know if this guy wants 3910 03:08:15,000 --> 03:08:15,640 Speaker 4: to be friends with me. 3911 03:08:16,600 --> 03:08:18,640 Speaker 1: He wanted more, but can you also tell your Belgian 3912 03:08:18,640 --> 03:08:22,959 Speaker 1: boys story so that I don't know? Yeah, both people 3913 03:08:22,959 --> 03:08:24,400 Speaker 1: haven't heard. I love that story. 3914 03:08:24,879 --> 03:08:26,240 Speaker 4: It doesn't even relate. 3915 03:08:26,440 --> 03:08:29,760 Speaker 1: Yes it does. He had a girlfriend, yeah, ok, and 3916 03:08:29,800 --> 03:08:30,800 Speaker 1: then she texted you. 3917 03:08:31,040 --> 03:08:34,760 Speaker 4: Okay, do we save it for half of the story? Sure? 3918 03:08:34,879 --> 03:08:36,560 Speaker 2: Okay, story time, Okay, story time. 3919 03:08:36,640 --> 03:08:38,039 Speaker 4: It slightly doesn't really, that's right. 3920 03:08:37,959 --> 03:08:42,120 Speaker 2: And Sam, you have been gifted your phone back. Congratulations. 3921 03:08:43,160 --> 03:08:46,119 Speaker 3: Yes, so all right, here we are, Ladies and gentlemen, 3922 03:08:46,240 --> 03:08:48,920 Speaker 3: just heard beautiful man's story. Now we're back to open. 3923 03:08:49,840 --> 03:08:52,360 Speaker 3: This seems pretty consistent with the text that I read 3924 03:08:52,400 --> 03:08:55,720 Speaker 3: as well. I don't really know what to think of this, 3925 03:08:55,959 --> 03:08:58,000 Speaker 3: but it kind of seems like she's playing the long 3926 03:08:58,120 --> 03:08:59,879 Speaker 3: game with him in order to get him to fall 3927 03:08:59,879 --> 03:09:02,920 Speaker 3: in love with her so she can leave me. I 3928 03:09:02,959 --> 03:09:05,800 Speaker 3: appreciate the guy's willingness to meet with me, and honestly, 3929 03:09:05,920 --> 03:09:08,440 Speaker 3: I do believe what he is telling me. Seems like 3930 03:09:08,520 --> 03:09:11,200 Speaker 3: this is beyond the point of no return. I plan 3931 03:09:11,360 --> 03:09:14,879 Speaker 3: on talking to her tomorrow, but I think that this 3932 03:09:15,000 --> 03:09:17,200 Speaker 3: is it for me. I don't think there's anything she 3933 03:09:17,240 --> 03:09:19,240 Speaker 3: can say that will change my mind. At this point, 3934 03:09:19,480 --> 03:09:22,360 Speaker 3: it's over. I will give an update if I feel 3935 03:09:22,440 --> 03:09:26,879 Speaker 3: up to it. And Ladies and gentlemen, there is another update. 3936 03:09:26,680 --> 03:09:29,720 Speaker 4: Also a non reddit poster. Hit is Live. 3937 03:09:30,080 --> 03:09:34,520 Speaker 1: It's so freakin' live, Yeah, lady hike. Okay, story time, 3938 03:09:34,520 --> 03:09:36,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna get to Sophia's Belgian story. 3939 03:09:36,560 --> 03:09:39,880 Speaker 4: He's three forty three pm Pacific Standard time. 3940 03:09:40,080 --> 03:09:44,880 Speaker 2: Yes, coming to you live. Yeah, So okay, storry time. 3941 03:09:45,680 --> 03:09:47,440 Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes. 3942 03:09:47,640 --> 03:09:52,280 Speaker 6: Anyway, I was in London with Sam and we met 3943 03:09:52,360 --> 03:09:56,200 Speaker 6: this sky from Belgium and I chatted with him and 3944 03:09:56,240 --> 03:10:00,600 Speaker 6: he was being flirty, and then I followed him on 3945 03:10:00,720 --> 03:10:02,959 Speaker 6: Instagram and immediately saw that he had a girlfriend, so 3946 03:10:02,959 --> 03:10:06,720 Speaker 6: I was like no, and so then he kept trying 3947 03:10:06,720 --> 03:10:08,160 Speaker 6: to text me and I was like, I'm not interested. 3948 03:10:08,760 --> 03:10:12,120 Speaker 4: And then a couple months later, I received a random 3949 03:10:12,200 --> 03:10:15,520 Speaker 4: dm uh from this girl and I was like, who 3950 03:10:15,560 --> 03:10:18,640 Speaker 4: is this and so I accepted it because I saw 3951 03:10:18,680 --> 03:10:23,520 Speaker 4: that she was following the guy, and she basically, very nicely, 3952 03:10:23,680 --> 03:10:27,080 Speaker 4: was like, hey, I just wanted to ask if you know, 3953 03:10:27,360 --> 03:10:29,640 Speaker 4: like I know that my boyfriend met you in London, 3954 03:10:29,680 --> 03:10:33,000 Speaker 4: which I didn't know how she knew because I really 3955 03:10:33,040 --> 03:10:35,520 Speaker 4: didn't follow. Yeah, I guess we're following each other. But 3956 03:10:35,560 --> 03:10:39,120 Speaker 4: I only saw him for one day. And she was like, 3957 03:10:39,160 --> 03:10:41,440 Speaker 4: did anything happen? Like I just want to know, like 3958 03:10:41,480 --> 03:10:44,280 Speaker 4: I'm not sure if something's going on, and I was like, 3959 03:10:44,400 --> 03:10:48,160 Speaker 4: nothing happened. I'm so sorry. I hope everything's okay, but 3960 03:10:48,200 --> 03:10:49,800 Speaker 4: I feel like he was probably you know, he probably 3961 03:10:49,840 --> 03:10:51,560 Speaker 4: she'd done her if she was asking those questions. 3962 03:10:51,800 --> 03:10:53,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 3963 03:10:53,240 --> 03:10:55,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's the long and short of it of 3964 03:10:55,680 --> 03:10:57,160 Speaker 4: the Belgian Boys story. 3965 03:10:57,280 --> 03:11:00,520 Speaker 3: The Belgian Boys story, by the way, I love Fried 3966 03:11:00,600 --> 03:11:03,119 Speaker 3: Chickens said they have a story. If you all watching 3967 03:11:03,200 --> 03:11:06,400 Speaker 3: right now have a story, please share it in the 3968 03:11:06,440 --> 03:11:09,760 Speaker 3: comments below and we just might take a look at it. 3969 03:11:10,600 --> 03:11:14,440 Speaker 3: Kaz also has a story. So guys, chumps, bring them on. 3970 03:11:14,600 --> 03:11:18,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, chump says, it's ten forty four am Australian Eastern daylights. 3971 03:11:18,360 --> 03:11:20,400 Speaker 2: Hey, shout out to you, chumps. 3972 03:11:20,800 --> 03:11:24,800 Speaker 4: Let's go, and it's hold on, hold on and hold 3973 03:11:24,879 --> 03:11:28,040 Speaker 4: on world'clock New York at six forty five pm Los Angeles. 3974 03:11:28,040 --> 03:11:31,520 Speaker 4: We already established Melbourn. Yeah, it's ten forty five London, 3975 03:11:31,560 --> 03:11:32,400 Speaker 4: eleven forty five. 3976 03:11:32,800 --> 03:11:34,440 Speaker 2: All right, now, is that a thing? Now we we 3977 03:11:34,920 --> 03:11:35,760 Speaker 2: read out our times. 3978 03:11:36,040 --> 03:11:38,600 Speaker 1: Times spam is proof that this is lies. 3979 03:11:38,760 --> 03:11:41,240 Speaker 2: Yes, in case you in case you were confused. 3980 03:11:42,160 --> 03:11:43,440 Speaker 4: So now now we're up to date. 3981 03:11:43,879 --> 03:11:45,600 Speaker 2: But you know what else is up to date? 3982 03:11:46,240 --> 03:11:49,760 Speaker 4: This next update up to date? Up to date? 3983 03:11:53,160 --> 03:11:59,520 Speaker 3: Okay, So I had the talk with her yesterday, the 3984 03:11:59,680 --> 03:12:05,280 Speaker 3: talk and it's over. Yeah, as crazy as it is. 3985 03:12:05,840 --> 03:12:08,440 Speaker 3: The guy actually didn't give her any heads up that 3986 03:12:08,520 --> 03:12:11,160 Speaker 3: we met, which I appreciated. 3987 03:12:11,440 --> 03:12:14,600 Speaker 4: Which in all that time texting, I wonder if they 3988 03:12:14,640 --> 03:12:17,400 Speaker 4: were still texting after they met up, or if he 3989 03:12:17,520 --> 03:12:19,119 Speaker 4: was like, I'm not going to text her at all. 3990 03:12:19,480 --> 03:12:23,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean he didn't message her about that 3991 03:12:23,360 --> 03:12:27,760 Speaker 3: heads up, so so it might have might have been Basically, 3992 03:12:27,879 --> 03:12:29,800 Speaker 3: I sat with her at the dining room table and 3993 03:12:29,840 --> 03:12:33,119 Speaker 3: started by telling her I heard what's going on with her. 3994 03:12:33,240 --> 03:12:35,160 Speaker 2: And beautiful man, beautiful man. 3995 03:12:35,400 --> 03:12:37,680 Speaker 3: When she asked what I was talking about, I kind 3996 03:12:37,680 --> 03:12:40,160 Speaker 3: of just went through all the highlights of the emotional affair, 3997 03:12:40,480 --> 03:12:44,480 Speaker 3: highlighting the cookie situation, meeting the parents, in cessant texting, 3998 03:12:44,800 --> 03:12:47,680 Speaker 3: disguising him as just a friend, et cetera, et cetera. 3999 03:12:48,200 --> 03:12:49,920 Speaker 3: When I told her that it seemed to me as 4000 03:12:49,959 --> 03:12:52,400 Speaker 3: if she was obsessed with the guy, maybe even in 4001 03:12:52,440 --> 03:12:57,080 Speaker 3: love with him, and seemingly planning for my replacement, she 4002 03:12:57,320 --> 03:13:02,720 Speaker 3: immediately broke down crying. I almost felt kind of bad, 4003 03:13:03,000 --> 03:13:06,800 Speaker 3: but also didn't at the same time. She then told 4004 03:13:06,840 --> 03:13:09,440 Speaker 3: me that she only did it because she liked the 4005 03:13:09,480 --> 03:13:12,480 Speaker 3: attention and nothing more, and that she would cut him 4006 03:13:12,520 --> 03:13:13,680 Speaker 3: off immediately. 4007 03:13:14,840 --> 03:13:16,520 Speaker 2: I shook my head. 4008 03:13:16,640 --> 03:13:18,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's too little, too. 4009 03:13:18,120 --> 03:13:19,360 Speaker 2: Late, Too little too late. 4010 03:13:19,440 --> 03:13:23,360 Speaker 3: Is there anything that she could do to, like, even 4011 03:13:23,400 --> 03:13:28,000 Speaker 3: attempt to salvage what's happened at this point, only. 4012 03:13:27,760 --> 03:13:29,800 Speaker 4: If he had been more receptive to it. But it 4013 03:13:29,840 --> 03:13:31,279 Speaker 4: seems like he's already. 4014 03:13:31,400 --> 03:13:32,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, he kind of made up his mind. 4015 03:13:32,720 --> 03:13:35,200 Speaker 4: He had already made up his mind before this. Yeah, 4016 03:13:35,240 --> 03:13:37,720 Speaker 4: if he had been like, like, is this you know, 4017 03:13:37,760 --> 03:13:39,680 Speaker 4: I don't know, if you had gone into it with 4018 03:13:39,720 --> 03:13:42,160 Speaker 4: a little bit more hesitancy. But it seems like he 4019 03:13:42,240 --> 03:13:45,240 Speaker 4: just wanted to tell her that he knew. Yeah, see 4020 03:13:45,240 --> 03:13:45,959 Speaker 4: how you know? 4021 03:13:46,400 --> 03:13:48,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, he like if he came in and gave her 4022 03:13:48,480 --> 03:13:49,959 Speaker 3: room to try to be like, all right, I earned 4023 03:13:49,959 --> 03:13:52,920 Speaker 3: my trust back or something, then it's like, okay, I could. 4024 03:13:52,840 --> 03:13:56,360 Speaker 2: Try to do something, but I don't think so. It's tough. 4025 03:13:57,520 --> 03:14:00,760 Speaker 2: She offered to find a couple's therapists, which uh while 4026 03:14:00,800 --> 03:14:03,920 Speaker 2: still belligerently crying, And I told her it seems like 4027 03:14:03,959 --> 03:14:07,720 Speaker 2: we are past that point already didn't really care whether 4028 03:14:07,760 --> 03:14:09,039 Speaker 2: she slept with the guy or not. 4029 03:14:09,360 --> 03:14:13,280 Speaker 3: This emotional situation was enough for me. I told her 4030 03:14:13,400 --> 03:14:16,080 Speaker 3: I'll be contacting an attorney this week and that she 4031 03:14:16,120 --> 03:14:16,760 Speaker 3: should do the same. 4032 03:14:16,800 --> 03:14:19,000 Speaker 2: Remember there married yeah in a rea. 4033 03:14:19,320 --> 03:14:22,080 Speaker 3: I forgot for a second too, honestly, and I walked 4034 03:14:22,120 --> 03:14:25,360 Speaker 3: out the door with her chasing me. I didn't have 4035 03:14:25,440 --> 03:14:28,119 Speaker 3: anywhere to go, but I needed to just leave before 4036 03:14:28,120 --> 03:14:31,520 Speaker 3: she tried me, Before she tried to convince me any 4037 03:14:31,560 --> 03:14:34,880 Speaker 3: further to stay. I didn't want to hear any bs. 4038 03:14:35,280 --> 03:14:39,480 Speaker 3: Received dozens of calls, say again, another card game? 4039 03:14:39,680 --> 03:14:44,680 Speaker 1: God, please, somebody finished it already. 4040 03:14:45,000 --> 03:14:46,160 Speaker 2: We know who the joker in the deck? 4041 03:14:46,320 --> 03:14:50,320 Speaker 4: Wash, who's the beautiful man? 4042 03:14:50,400 --> 03:14:54,920 Speaker 2: Then dang, he's the king damage he's too beautiful. 4043 03:14:55,879 --> 03:14:58,360 Speaker 3: I received dozens of calls and texts while I was gone, 4044 03:14:58,480 --> 03:15:01,720 Speaker 3: and when I came back, she se devastated. Still, I 4045 03:15:01,760 --> 03:15:03,800 Speaker 3: got calls from her parents to day as well, which 4046 03:15:03,800 --> 03:15:05,879 Speaker 3: I ignored. I haven't kicked her out of the house 4047 03:15:05,959 --> 03:15:08,160 Speaker 3: or anything. Not really sure what I want to do 4048 03:15:08,240 --> 03:15:11,360 Speaker 3: about that yet. I don't want her to be with 4049 03:15:11,560 --> 03:15:13,600 Speaker 3: I don't want her to be this guy or anyone 4050 03:15:13,600 --> 03:15:16,320 Speaker 3: else's burden. I'm just kind of feeling lost at the 4051 03:15:16,600 --> 03:15:19,919 Speaker 3: at this point, it's wild, how truly absurd. 4052 03:15:19,840 --> 03:15:22,640 Speaker 2: This just ended. After all this time. 4053 03:15:23,160 --> 03:15:25,760 Speaker 3: I moved to the state solely to support her, and 4054 03:15:25,800 --> 03:15:29,760 Speaker 3: now I'm just here. The majority of my friends and 4055 03:15:29,800 --> 03:15:33,200 Speaker 3: family are still across the country. Maybe I should have 4056 03:15:33,200 --> 03:15:35,960 Speaker 3: seen the writing on the wall. Our relationship wasn't perfect. 4057 03:15:36,200 --> 03:15:38,320 Speaker 3: I've been pretty busy over the last year or so 4058 03:15:38,440 --> 03:15:40,920 Speaker 3: with work, and it seems like she took every chance 4059 03:15:40,959 --> 03:15:43,680 Speaker 3: she could to go to every single school party slash 4060 03:15:43,800 --> 03:15:48,039 Speaker 3: outing she could without inviting me ninety five. 4061 03:15:47,879 --> 03:15:48,720 Speaker 2: Percent of the time. 4062 03:15:49,520 --> 03:15:52,920 Speaker 3: Ouch, she was never home and every time I asked 4063 03:15:52,920 --> 03:15:56,160 Speaker 3: any questions, she would chalk it up to studying quote unquote. 4064 03:15:56,600 --> 03:15:59,200 Speaker 3: How could I really argue with that when she's in 4065 03:15:59,200 --> 03:16:03,600 Speaker 3: grad school. Yeah, it may not be entirely her fault, 4066 03:16:03,600 --> 03:16:05,879 Speaker 3: but I'm glad I'm getting But I'm glad I'm getting 4067 03:16:05,879 --> 03:16:08,480 Speaker 3: out of us before it got any worse. Three years 4068 03:16:08,560 --> 03:16:10,960 Speaker 3: isn't a crazy amount of time, and now it's time 4069 03:16:10,959 --> 03:16:14,039 Speaker 3: to go find myself again. This does suck, though, Thank 4070 03:16:14,080 --> 03:16:16,720 Speaker 3: you all for your support. This has really helped me 4071 03:16:16,760 --> 03:16:19,680 Speaker 3: come to terms with this ending. 4072 03:16:21,000 --> 03:16:23,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I think I think she had a lot 4073 03:16:23,920 --> 03:16:26,720 Speaker 4: of red flags and she wasn't really focused on the 4074 03:16:26,800 --> 03:16:28,360 Speaker 4: relationship for a while, it seems. 4075 03:16:28,760 --> 03:16:34,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, at least I'm curious on would you all stay 4076 03:16:35,280 --> 03:16:41,960 Speaker 3: or work on the relationship? Because nice to producer Riley, 4077 03:16:42,120 --> 03:16:44,560 Speaker 3: just on top of his game. Oh so we have 4078 03:16:44,600 --> 03:16:48,160 Speaker 3: a few then, Burning Rose says she's not sorry it happened. 4079 03:16:48,240 --> 03:16:51,039 Speaker 2: She's sorry that she got caught. 4080 03:16:51,720 --> 03:16:55,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it kind of seems like that is the case. 4081 03:16:55,040 --> 03:17:01,560 Speaker 3: And then uh, Karima Karn's Bond says, burning Rose you 4082 03:17:01,600 --> 03:17:04,760 Speaker 3: one hundredercent, right, So basically uh. 4083 03:17:04,600 --> 03:17:05,480 Speaker 2: Plus wanting that. 4084 03:17:06,680 --> 03:17:10,800 Speaker 3: Soriah Jade says she would have absolutely eventually slept with 4085 03:17:10,840 --> 03:17:14,240 Speaker 3: beautiful man if she hadn't have got caught. Look, it's 4086 03:17:14,280 --> 03:17:15,199 Speaker 3: hard to resist. 4087 03:17:14,959 --> 03:17:17,520 Speaker 2: Sleep sleeping with beautiful man. If I do say so myself, 4088 03:17:18,000 --> 03:17:20,080 Speaker 2: it's it's it's really tough. 4089 03:17:22,200 --> 03:17:24,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's tough that he like, he moved out 4090 03:17:24,120 --> 03:17:26,480 Speaker 4: to this place and then she didn't try to include 4091 03:17:26,560 --> 03:17:27,600 Speaker 4: him in her life at all. 4092 03:17:28,080 --> 03:17:32,120 Speaker 5: And like another point is like Bro's like thirty because 4093 03:17:32,120 --> 03:17:35,080 Speaker 5: she's twenty five and everyone that's like in college is like, yeah, 4094 03:17:35,080 --> 03:17:36,480 Speaker 5: well one college scene, you know. 4095 03:17:36,879 --> 03:17:39,600 Speaker 4: It is grad school. So I mean, based off of 4096 03:17:39,640 --> 03:17:42,840 Speaker 4: like theater grad school, there are it ranges from you know, 4097 03:17:43,680 --> 03:17:45,439 Speaker 4: mid twenties to thirties. 4098 03:17:45,920 --> 03:17:48,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just broke something on Oh that's okay, we 4099 03:17:48,040 --> 03:17:49,560 Speaker 2: can destroy the Harry Potter Fortress. 4100 03:17:50,480 --> 03:17:54,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think that there's I don't think his 4101 03:17:54,600 --> 03:17:57,920 Speaker 4: age would have been a huge problem problem in grad school. 4102 03:17:57,959 --> 03:17:59,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's probably people in grad school I guess that 4103 03:17:59,640 --> 03:18:01,119 Speaker 2: are like twenty eight. 4104 03:18:01,320 --> 03:18:05,200 Speaker 4: Or I know thirty year olds and you see grad school. 4105 03:18:05,800 --> 03:18:07,279 Speaker 2: True and over thirty true. 4106 03:18:07,680 --> 03:18:09,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know people who were in their like forties 4107 03:18:09,760 --> 03:18:13,400 Speaker 4: who were in undergrad So you know, yeah, I think 4108 03:18:13,400 --> 03:18:15,640 Speaker 4: it's like less of a deal, especially in grad school 4109 03:18:16,000 --> 03:18:16,520 Speaker 4: your age. 4110 03:18:16,879 --> 03:18:20,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you're a beautiful man, yeah, that's all 4111 03:18:20,480 --> 03:18:24,680 Speaker 2: that matters. That is really all that matters. That really 4112 03:18:24,680 --> 03:18:27,440 Speaker 2: sucks for But you know what else matters a lot? 4113 03:18:27,920 --> 03:18:30,800 Speaker 2: This next story, this next story. Do we need to 4114 03:18:31,000 --> 03:18:31,760 Speaker 2: queue it up here? 4115 03:18:32,080 --> 03:18:33,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's do that. 4116 03:18:34,280 --> 03:18:41,080 Speaker 2: Three hundo and story number two. Here we go, Sophia, 4117 03:18:41,240 --> 03:18:42,080 Speaker 2: the floor is yours? 4118 03:18:42,160 --> 03:18:46,160 Speaker 4: Thank you? Oh right? Am I the a hole for 4119 03:18:46,240 --> 03:18:50,119 Speaker 4: overreacting to my wife's friends? Oh, to my wife's friends 4120 03:18:50,160 --> 03:18:51,600 Speaker 4: snooping on my laptop? 4121 03:18:53,120 --> 03:18:53,200 Speaker 2: No? 4122 03:18:53,720 --> 03:18:56,320 Speaker 4: I think what's your thoughts before we get into it? 4123 03:18:56,360 --> 03:18:58,640 Speaker 3: If the if the wife's friend is snooping on the laptop, 4124 03:18:59,240 --> 03:19:02,960 Speaker 3: don't don't why why why are you snooping on my laptop? 4125 03:19:03,120 --> 03:19:03,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? 4126 03:19:03,600 --> 03:19:06,879 Speaker 2: That's right, d Yeah, it's like, yeah. 4127 03:19:06,560 --> 03:19:08,920 Speaker 3: Is it almost worse that it's like the wife's friend 4128 03:19:08,920 --> 03:19:10,560 Speaker 3: and not even the wife, Yeah, because. 4129 03:19:10,320 --> 03:19:12,920 Speaker 4: She's sending someone else to do well, we don't know this. 4130 03:19:13,000 --> 03:19:13,400 Speaker 1: We don't know. 4131 03:19:13,560 --> 03:19:14,640 Speaker 4: I don't want to make assumptions. 4132 03:19:14,640 --> 03:19:15,480 Speaker 2: Good conspiracy theory. 4133 03:19:15,520 --> 03:19:18,320 Speaker 4: But I was gonna say, maybe she's sending him. Maybe, 4134 03:19:19,640 --> 03:19:23,080 Speaker 4: but let's read on. It's fine, I know it so 4135 03:19:23,320 --> 03:19:27,240 Speaker 4: level reaction forty five sixty nine says I twenty six male. 4136 03:19:27,320 --> 03:19:29,720 Speaker 4: Have been with my wife twenty four female for a 4137 03:19:29,760 --> 03:19:32,760 Speaker 4: little under five years, dating for three, engaged for one, 4138 03:19:32,879 --> 03:19:35,640 Speaker 4: and married just under one. She is the love of 4139 03:19:35,680 --> 03:19:37,360 Speaker 4: my life and I know her like the back of 4140 03:19:37,360 --> 03:19:39,680 Speaker 4: my hand. I know her needs. Once when she would 4141 03:19:39,680 --> 03:19:41,880 Speaker 4: prefer water over diet coke when she is starting to 4142 03:19:41,920 --> 03:19:45,080 Speaker 4: slip into a depressive state anxiety triggers et cetera. 4143 03:19:46,440 --> 03:19:46,920 Speaker 2: Pretty good. 4144 03:19:46,959 --> 03:19:49,880 Speaker 4: Oh, he knows everything about his wife. 4145 03:19:49,959 --> 03:19:50,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 4146 03:19:50,879 --> 03:19:52,800 Speaker 4: One thing she's always worried about is that I will 4147 03:19:52,879 --> 03:19:55,920 Speaker 4: leave her or cheat on her. Her parents had issues, 4148 03:19:55,959 --> 03:19:58,200 Speaker 4: and she thinks I'll be the same. To combat this, 4149 03:19:58,400 --> 03:20:01,920 Speaker 4: she has full access to my phone and personal computer. However, 4150 03:20:02,080 --> 03:20:04,680 Speaker 4: my work computer is completely off limits due to the 4151 03:20:04,760 --> 03:20:07,720 Speaker 4: nature of my job. Ooh, what type of job is that? 4152 03:20:09,240 --> 03:20:10,640 Speaker 2: Secret? Nuclear missiles? 4153 03:20:11,480 --> 03:20:14,120 Speaker 4: And he's like, no, playing around with my computer. I 4154 03:20:14,200 --> 03:20:14,920 Speaker 4: launched the missile. 4155 03:20:15,080 --> 03:20:18,199 Speaker 2: If you want to live, that's. 4156 03:20:18,040 --> 03:20:20,560 Speaker 4: I Also, just before we go on, I think that's 4157 03:20:20,920 --> 03:20:23,800 Speaker 4: that's very kind of him to give her full access, 4158 03:20:23,800 --> 03:20:25,480 Speaker 4: But I think that's also something she should be in 4159 03:20:25,520 --> 03:20:28,640 Speaker 4: therapy for, Like, if you're expecting the worst out of relationship, 4160 03:20:29,879 --> 03:20:34,680 Speaker 4: then that's a great Yeah all right, so OPI continues. 4161 03:20:35,000 --> 03:20:37,240 Speaker 4: I recently got a promotion and now have people who 4162 03:20:37,240 --> 03:20:39,320 Speaker 4: will report to me. One of these people is female. 4163 03:20:39,680 --> 03:20:41,840 Speaker 4: Sometimes if I'm away from my computer and they have 4164 03:20:41,920 --> 03:20:44,400 Speaker 4: a question, they will call or text my personal phone 4165 03:20:44,920 --> 03:20:47,480 Speaker 4: and I typically reply with let me get online and 4166 03:20:47,520 --> 03:20:51,400 Speaker 4: we can talk over teams, our company's communication platform. Recently, 4167 03:20:51,520 --> 03:20:53,200 Speaker 4: she has looked through my phone and saw that the 4168 03:20:53,240 --> 03:20:55,360 Speaker 4: girl who reports to me has texted me quite a 4169 03:20:55,440 --> 03:20:58,080 Speaker 4: few times since she is new. And I always say 4170 03:20:58,120 --> 03:21:02,960 Speaker 4: I'll be online. Shortly, my my wife showed my wife 4171 03:21:03,000 --> 03:21:05,360 Speaker 4: showed her friends the text thread and they all think 4172 03:21:05,360 --> 03:21:07,680 Speaker 4: that it is sus and they were talking about stuff 4173 03:21:07,680 --> 03:21:10,400 Speaker 4: on the one device. I never let my wife see. 4174 03:21:10,800 --> 03:21:12,920 Speaker 4: When this is brought to my attention, I showed her 4175 03:21:12,959 --> 03:21:15,360 Speaker 4: text for my other reports. And I always say I'll 4176 03:21:15,400 --> 03:21:20,440 Speaker 4: talk online. Is there's just so much lack of trust 4177 03:21:20,480 --> 03:21:21,160 Speaker 4: in this relationship. 4178 03:21:21,280 --> 03:21:22,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of yeah tough. 4179 03:21:23,360 --> 03:21:25,880 Speaker 4: The reason I always say I'll talk online is because 4180 03:21:25,879 --> 03:21:28,440 Speaker 4: of the technical data I deal with. My company takes 4181 03:21:28,440 --> 03:21:31,880 Speaker 4: cybersecurity very seriously. To log in in the morning, there 4182 03:21:31,879 --> 03:21:34,240 Speaker 4: are three passwords I need to input. Because it takes 4183 03:21:34,280 --> 03:21:36,440 Speaker 4: so long to log in, I typically will just turn 4184 03:21:36,480 --> 03:21:39,000 Speaker 4: off my screen when I walk away instead of looking 4185 03:21:39,120 --> 03:21:41,960 Speaker 4: locking it. I figure I am in my own house 4186 03:21:42,000 --> 03:21:44,480 Speaker 4: and typically the only people with me are my dogs 4187 03:21:44,600 --> 03:21:45,240 Speaker 4: or my wife. 4188 03:21:45,520 --> 03:21:46,680 Speaker 2: Can you trust the dogs. 4189 03:21:46,480 --> 03:21:50,320 Speaker 4: Though, no, they're always snooping. It's obviously that movie Cats 4190 03:21:50,360 --> 03:21:51,000 Speaker 4: Versus Dogs. 4191 03:21:52,640 --> 03:21:53,320 Speaker 1: You're so right? 4192 03:21:53,440 --> 03:21:55,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? And the cats, I think we're trying to destroy 4193 03:21:55,480 --> 03:21:57,400 Speaker 4: the world. I think they were trying to start a. 4194 03:21:57,480 --> 03:22:00,480 Speaker 2: Nuclear war, right, what's up with the that's true? 4195 03:22:00,720 --> 03:22:02,560 Speaker 4: Don't I don't know if that's fully true, but I 4196 03:22:02,560 --> 03:22:03,080 Speaker 4: think that's. 4197 03:22:02,920 --> 03:22:05,320 Speaker 2: What we're going with that version of the True Cats. 4198 03:22:05,320 --> 03:22:07,039 Speaker 4: We're starting a cold war. 4199 03:22:07,440 --> 03:22:10,960 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that was very bad. 4200 03:22:11,120 --> 03:22:14,439 Speaker 3: I also have an okay story time related to Op's 4201 03:22:14,480 --> 03:22:15,199 Speaker 3: super secret. 4202 03:22:15,280 --> 03:22:18,480 Speaker 4: Okay, well, anyway, information, Let's see what happens if these 4203 03:22:18,520 --> 03:22:23,520 Speaker 4: dogs were the culprits. Let's see the other day, I'm 4204 03:22:23,520 --> 03:22:26,640 Speaker 4: working in my in home office while my wife has 4205 03:22:26,640 --> 03:22:28,520 Speaker 4: some friends over, and I have to go to the bathroom, 4206 03:22:28,600 --> 03:22:30,840 Speaker 4: So I turn off my screen and go relieve myself. 4207 03:22:31,160 --> 03:22:33,440 Speaker 4: I decide to also grab a coffee from the kitchen, 4208 03:22:33,760 --> 03:22:35,760 Speaker 4: and when I come back, I see my wife at 4209 03:22:35,760 --> 03:22:38,920 Speaker 4: my desk with her friends around her. I flip out 4210 03:22:38,959 --> 03:22:41,400 Speaker 4: and ask what they think they're doing, and they're reading 4211 03:22:41,400 --> 03:22:46,920 Speaker 4: my messages with my coworkers. Again, these messages contain technical 4212 03:22:47,000 --> 03:22:49,920 Speaker 4: data that isn't open to the public. I kick her 4213 03:22:49,920 --> 03:22:51,440 Speaker 4: friends out of the house and tell them that they 4214 03:22:51,440 --> 03:22:53,480 Speaker 4: may have put my job in jeopardy since I now 4215 03:22:53,560 --> 03:22:56,640 Speaker 4: have to report a breach of security. Her friends argue 4216 03:22:56,640 --> 03:22:59,359 Speaker 4: they were just looking out for my wife, as it's suspicious. 4217 03:22:59,400 --> 03:23:03,600 Speaker 4: I always answer, on the computer, where else? 4218 03:23:03,720 --> 03:23:04,760 Speaker 2: Why is that suspicious? 4219 03:23:04,760 --> 03:23:08,599 Speaker 4: Where else would he answer? I? 4220 03:23:08,760 --> 03:23:11,800 Speaker 2: Like, who cares what device you're answering from? 4221 03:23:11,879 --> 03:23:12,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? 4222 03:23:12,200 --> 03:23:13,600 Speaker 2: Right, this is like a word. 4223 03:23:13,640 --> 03:23:17,560 Speaker 4: I don't know this is I understand that there might 4224 03:23:17,600 --> 03:23:20,560 Speaker 4: be cases where people are cheating, but like, if you 4225 03:23:20,640 --> 03:23:24,120 Speaker 4: have zero trust in your partner, what. 4226 03:23:24,520 --> 03:23:24,879 Speaker 2: Are we doing? 4227 03:23:24,959 --> 03:23:25,480 Speaker 4: What's the point? 4228 03:23:25,680 --> 03:23:29,400 Speaker 3: I also just put together that they're they're basically saying like, oh, 4229 03:23:29,480 --> 03:23:31,360 Speaker 3: you use this one device so you can hide all 4230 03:23:31,400 --> 03:23:32,520 Speaker 3: the messages. 4231 03:23:32,080 --> 03:23:32,760 Speaker 2: And right right right? 4232 03:23:32,840 --> 03:23:35,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? But still like what like why. 4233 03:23:35,720 --> 03:23:39,000 Speaker 2: Why why not? Just yeah? 4234 03:23:38,160 --> 03:23:40,800 Speaker 4: Come all in all? I kicked her friends out and 4235 03:23:40,840 --> 03:23:43,240 Speaker 4: told them to never come back. I called my boss 4236 03:23:43,280 --> 03:23:45,680 Speaker 4: with my wife and told my boss everything and made 4237 03:23:45,680 --> 03:23:49,200 Speaker 4: my wife tell which tell me which conversation conversations she 4238 03:23:49,320 --> 03:23:52,400 Speaker 4: read to determine what she saw. My boss told me 4239 03:23:52,520 --> 03:23:55,240 Speaker 4: I got lucky and nothing too sensitive was in the messages, 4240 03:23:55,280 --> 03:23:56,840 Speaker 4: and in private he told me to go to a 4241 03:23:56,879 --> 03:24:02,160 Speaker 4: couple's counseling. My wife. Yeah, my wife told her friends 4242 03:24:02,160 --> 03:24:03,640 Speaker 4: what I made her do, and they all think I 4243 03:24:03,680 --> 03:24:07,280 Speaker 4: overreacted and am a complete ass for embarrassing her. To 4244 03:24:07,320 --> 03:24:10,680 Speaker 4: my boss, No, I think that I think she deserved that. 4245 03:24:11,280 --> 03:24:13,760 Speaker 4: I think that this relationship I one. I think they 4246 03:24:13,800 --> 03:24:16,480 Speaker 4: need to go to coumple's counseling because this wife and 4247 03:24:16,560 --> 03:24:17,680 Speaker 4: this wife needs go to therapy. 4248 03:24:18,200 --> 03:24:20,039 Speaker 2: Yes, blank, definitely. 4249 03:24:19,600 --> 03:24:21,720 Speaker 4: If you have zero trust in your relationship, it's just 4250 03:24:22,400 --> 03:24:24,119 Speaker 4: with no evidence, with no yeah. 4251 03:24:24,040 --> 03:24:26,240 Speaker 3: And just for like you as a person, like like 4252 03:24:26,320 --> 03:24:29,160 Speaker 3: being able to like you know, work through those issues 4253 03:24:29,240 --> 03:24:32,480 Speaker 3: and then live a life where you're not constantly like 4254 03:24:32,959 --> 03:24:34,800 Speaker 3: looking over someone's shoulder, just at least. 4255 03:24:34,680 --> 03:24:36,760 Speaker 2: Make make progress in the in the right direction. 4256 03:24:37,160 --> 03:24:39,400 Speaker 4: And the fact that the wife's friends were like encouraging 4257 03:24:39,440 --> 03:24:40,920 Speaker 4: this behavior is wild. 4258 03:24:41,360 --> 03:24:44,120 Speaker 3: I feel like I wonder if because we actually read 4259 03:24:44,160 --> 03:24:45,879 Speaker 3: a bunch of stories earlier today at the top of 4260 03:24:45,920 --> 03:24:49,800 Speaker 3: the stream where uh the friends were the one that 4261 03:24:49,840 --> 03:24:52,880 Speaker 3: were planting all of these ideas, Like it didn't come 4262 03:24:52,959 --> 03:24:55,240 Speaker 3: from like the wife or the significant other. It was 4263 03:24:55,280 --> 03:24:59,879 Speaker 3: like the friend or friend group feeding that information to them. 4264 03:25:00,040 --> 03:25:01,520 Speaker 4: It seems like they might have done that. I wouldn't 4265 03:25:01,560 --> 03:25:02,760 Speaker 4: I wouldn't put it past. 4266 03:25:02,879 --> 03:25:04,360 Speaker 2: See is that the end of the end of this story. 4267 03:25:04,400 --> 03:25:06,200 Speaker 4: That is the end of this story? 4268 03:25:06,280 --> 03:25:08,600 Speaker 3: Uh ha, Well I do have an okay storytime related 4269 03:25:08,640 --> 03:25:12,440 Speaker 3: to this. So so obviously there's the breach of trust 4270 03:25:12,600 --> 03:25:17,520 Speaker 3: of going into the laptop. But a company I used 4271 03:25:17,520 --> 03:25:19,920 Speaker 3: to work for had I don't know if this is 4272 03:25:19,959 --> 03:25:22,320 Speaker 3: the same thing. It's called like sock two. It's basically 4273 03:25:22,360 --> 03:25:26,240 Speaker 3: like a big security thing and they send people to 4274 03:25:26,360 --> 03:25:29,200 Speaker 3: your office and sometimes to your house, like like to 4275 03:25:29,360 --> 03:25:32,760 Speaker 3: inspect your place, like house secure because think about like 4276 03:25:32,840 --> 03:25:35,959 Speaker 3: in this dude's case, he's like, oh, my house seems secure. 4277 03:25:36,440 --> 03:25:39,200 Speaker 3: But so they will literally fly people out sometimes to 4278 03:25:39,360 --> 03:25:42,040 Speaker 3: inspect and be like is there any is there anything 4279 03:25:42,040 --> 03:25:44,519 Speaker 3: that might be a breach of security? 4280 03:25:44,600 --> 03:25:47,879 Speaker 4: And the whole zoom testing protocol. 4281 03:25:47,959 --> 03:25:50,119 Speaker 2: The zoom testing protocol, Yeah, like they. 4282 03:25:50,120 --> 03:25:51,840 Speaker 4: Have they make you have the camera. 4283 03:25:51,600 --> 03:26:01,440 Speaker 2: On, Oh smart, smart Okay, Ah, guys, I fell for it. 4284 03:26:01,920 --> 03:26:04,800 Speaker 3: I am I am a millennial. Okay, all accept it? 4285 03:26:04,800 --> 03:26:07,240 Speaker 3: Can we accept millennial? Can we accept millennial? 4286 03:26:08,200 --> 03:26:09,520 Speaker 1: Come on, ninety six? 4287 03:26:09,720 --> 03:26:10,680 Speaker 4: You can be a cusper? 4288 03:26:11,400 --> 03:26:12,560 Speaker 2: That's what is millennial? Is? 4289 03:26:12,640 --> 03:26:14,160 Speaker 4: I know, but I don't like the words Elena. 4290 03:26:15,840 --> 03:26:19,120 Speaker 2: How millennial would be to say? Zeleniala? Am I as millennial? Thanks? Riley? 4291 03:26:19,400 --> 03:26:23,240 Speaker 4: John? Yeah, what's the cutoff? Because John says it's nineteen ninety. 4292 03:26:23,080 --> 03:26:27,280 Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety six, nineteen ninety six, nineteen ninety seven. Y'all 4293 03:26:27,280 --> 03:26:28,080 Speaker 2: don't even know how. 4294 03:26:28,120 --> 03:26:31,000 Speaker 3: Back in the day people were throwing ninety six down, 4295 03:26:31,400 --> 03:26:35,400 Speaker 3: throwing down ninety six. Oh it was crazy, mad surveys 4296 03:26:35,440 --> 03:26:38,279 Speaker 3: and stuff, saying nineteen ninety six is a cutoff from millennials. 4297 03:26:38,440 --> 03:26:41,360 Speaker 3: But now everyone switched up. Everyone switched up, and uh 4298 03:26:42,000 --> 03:26:44,080 Speaker 3: they said that all people are just people are just 4299 03:26:44,280 --> 03:26:45,840 Speaker 3: roasted me in the chat right now. 4300 03:26:45,959 --> 03:26:48,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. Some people are saying that my 4301 03:26:48,879 --> 03:26:49,680 Speaker 4: mic is quiet. 4302 03:26:50,440 --> 03:26:52,320 Speaker 5: I don't know, speak louder. 4303 03:26:52,440 --> 03:26:54,400 Speaker 4: I'm trying. I'm speaking fairly loud. 4304 03:26:54,840 --> 03:26:57,959 Speaker 3: Guys, how is how is the volume now? Yeah, let 4305 03:26:58,040 --> 03:27:02,240 Speaker 3: us know it's ninety six ninety six? Is is isn't 4306 03:27:02,240 --> 03:27:03,879 Speaker 3: it all right? 4307 03:27:04,200 --> 03:27:04,400 Speaker 2: There? 4308 03:27:04,440 --> 03:27:06,080 Speaker 4: See, I'll give it to you job. 4309 03:27:06,040 --> 03:27:08,160 Speaker 2: That's right. Oh man. People are really going crazy over 4310 03:27:08,240 --> 03:27:14,240 Speaker 2: the gen Z thing. Millennial Light, Millennial light. I upgraid 4311 03:27:14,280 --> 03:27:14,720 Speaker 2: to pro. 4312 03:27:14,879 --> 03:27:16,480 Speaker 4: Everyone wants to be a gen Z. 4313 03:27:17,480 --> 03:27:20,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, but to put a pin in my story, yeah, 4314 03:27:20,440 --> 03:27:23,840 Speaker 3: like it could have not just cost him his job, 4315 03:27:24,160 --> 03:27:27,520 Speaker 3: but if they lost like this certification, like in my case, 4316 03:27:27,800 --> 03:27:30,160 Speaker 3: they would have lost like a lot of their customers. 4317 03:27:30,200 --> 03:27:32,480 Speaker 3: It literally could have killed the company. Yeah, like all 4318 03:27:32,520 --> 03:27:35,280 Speaker 3: of the people working for that company could have could 4319 03:27:35,360 --> 03:27:40,959 Speaker 3: have been, could have been you know, lost their job technically, dude. 4320 03:27:40,879 --> 03:27:45,760 Speaker 4: And depending on how you know, how secure this company 4321 03:27:46,000 --> 03:27:50,199 Speaker 4: could have gotten legal trouble too, legal trouble, like legal trouble. 4322 03:27:50,360 --> 03:27:55,080 Speaker 2: Bad, It's bad. One more one so from Pixie Pan. 4323 03:27:55,400 --> 03:27:56,800 Speaker 2: My daughter was born in ninety five. 4324 03:27:57,280 --> 03:28:00,000 Speaker 3: She's an older millennial, per her twelve year old brother 4325 03:28:00,320 --> 03:28:03,640 Speaker 3: who keeps calling her elderly older millennial. 4326 03:28:03,720 --> 03:28:05,560 Speaker 2: Now, older millennials are like thirty eight. 4327 03:28:05,840 --> 03:28:06,920 Speaker 4: That's a young millennial. 4328 03:28:07,200 --> 03:28:10,720 Speaker 2: A young millennial ninety five exactly, That's what I'm saying. 4329 03:28:10,800 --> 03:28:11,800 Speaker 4: That's a young millennial. 4330 03:28:11,920 --> 03:28:15,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're they're twelve year old brothers gaslighting them 4331 03:28:15,840 --> 03:28:18,600 Speaker 2: thinking there like like some other. 4332 03:28:18,520 --> 03:28:22,240 Speaker 5: People I know, John, I would never. 4333 03:28:22,720 --> 03:28:26,680 Speaker 2: Anyway checks me a coke. Hey, do you gotta have 4334 03:28:26,720 --> 03:28:27,360 Speaker 2: a story? 4335 03:28:27,520 --> 03:28:30,640 Speaker 5: We do, let's do it. 4336 03:28:30,959 --> 03:28:33,640 Speaker 2: Okay, that is okay, the calls can wait. The people 4337 03:28:33,680 --> 03:28:34,600 Speaker 2: are here for content. 4338 03:28:34,920 --> 03:28:36,320 Speaker 4: Do we want to read any comments? 4339 03:28:36,879 --> 03:28:37,039 Speaker 2: Ah? 4340 03:28:37,160 --> 03:28:38,119 Speaker 5: Yes, read them? 4341 03:28:38,360 --> 03:28:41,360 Speaker 4: Will you find the new? Okay, move the mic closer 4342 03:28:41,360 --> 03:28:44,480 Speaker 4: to your mouth. It is, in fact, right next to 4343 03:28:44,520 --> 03:28:52,680 Speaker 4: my now nineties rule I've never been Yep, nda are 4344 03:28:52,720 --> 03:28:56,360 Speaker 4: real and it can be bad. So true. I have 4345 03:28:56,400 --> 03:28:59,960 Speaker 4: a password for my Oh who's this from my kid? 4346 03:29:00,560 --> 03:29:01,040 Speaker 4: Raise a con? 4347 03:29:01,440 --> 03:29:01,640 Speaker 1: I have? 4348 03:29:01,920 --> 03:29:03,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a password for my phone, and then 4349 03:29:03,840 --> 03:29:06,800 Speaker 4: another passcode to get into my business WhatsApp because I'm 4350 03:29:06,840 --> 03:29:09,360 Speaker 4: a psychologist and I need as many locks on my 4351 03:29:09,400 --> 03:29:13,199 Speaker 4: phone as possible. My ex partner understood that. Yeah, yeah, 4352 03:29:13,320 --> 03:29:15,120 Speaker 4: I feel like, yeah, it makes sense if you have 4353 03:29:15,280 --> 03:29:17,959 Speaker 4: like very sensitive sensitive information. 4354 03:29:18,040 --> 03:29:20,000 Speaker 3: That's like, hey, I want to protect you know, my 4355 03:29:20,160 --> 03:29:23,840 Speaker 3: clients sharing very confidential things like it's good, it's good, ladies. 4356 03:29:24,320 --> 03:29:24,760 Speaker 1: Respect. 4357 03:29:25,120 --> 03:29:26,400 Speaker 2: But what else is good? 4358 03:29:26,879 --> 03:29:28,720 Speaker 4: Is this next story? 4359 03:29:29,080 --> 03:29:34,160 Speaker 3: That's right, let's get into it, short and sweet title. Today, 4360 03:29:34,640 --> 03:29:37,440 Speaker 3: I af fed up by sexting my step mom. 4361 03:29:37,920 --> 03:29:42,960 Speaker 4: Ah ah, did you know? Did you know that they 4362 03:29:42,959 --> 03:29:51,200 Speaker 4: were your stuff? Change the word? Did you know that 4363 03:29:51,240 --> 03:29:51,760 Speaker 4: you were there? 4364 03:29:52,680 --> 03:29:54,760 Speaker 3: I'm going to assume it's an accident, because today, if 4365 03:29:55,000 --> 03:29:57,360 Speaker 3: up otherwise, it would be like today. 4366 03:29:57,400 --> 03:29:58,760 Speaker 2: I succeeded. 4367 03:30:00,240 --> 03:30:01,600 Speaker 4: Get seeing my step mom. 4368 03:30:01,959 --> 03:30:06,560 Speaker 2: Oh goodness, gracious, well, let's get into this one from 4369 03:30:06,640 --> 03:30:11,119 Speaker 2: crazy squirrel Girl who says my sister was getting married 4370 03:30:11,160 --> 03:30:11,720 Speaker 2: and all of. 4371 03:30:11,720 --> 03:30:15,320 Speaker 3: Us ladies went to get mayonnies and petties together. Oh yeah, 4372 03:30:15,720 --> 03:30:20,280 Speaker 3: my stepmom, all the bridesmaids, my sister and I. So 4373 03:30:20,520 --> 03:30:22,720 Speaker 3: because there was a flock of eight of us, they 4374 03:30:22,760 --> 03:30:24,760 Speaker 3: sat a few of us in the petticure chairs to 4375 03:30:24,800 --> 03:30:27,200 Speaker 3: soak the feet while we waited for a manicurist to 4376 03:30:27,240 --> 03:30:30,560 Speaker 3: become available. I decided I had had a long wait 4377 03:30:30,600 --> 03:30:33,880 Speaker 3: and I was bored. I really don't know the bridesmaids, 4378 03:30:33,879 --> 03:30:35,600 Speaker 3: only my sister and my step mom. 4379 03:30:35,640 --> 03:30:37,920 Speaker 2: So I would sext my husband. 4380 03:30:39,879 --> 03:30:45,360 Speaker 4: Oh I see where this is going. I put I 4381 03:30:45,400 --> 03:30:48,800 Speaker 4: see you in the comments because I see I see you. 4382 03:30:49,280 --> 03:30:55,640 Speaker 3: Drop them, drop them. Well, I started sending very descriptive. 4383 03:30:55,040 --> 03:30:59,000 Speaker 2: Messages to him at the many petty, at the MANI pe. 4384 03:30:58,879 --> 03:31:02,360 Speaker 4: During the manny petty hot the nail salon. She's going in, Yeah, 4385 03:31:02,480 --> 03:31:07,560 Speaker 4: she's getting her feet painted, her nails painted. 4386 03:31:07,320 --> 03:31:09,360 Speaker 2: Or painting something red. 4387 03:31:09,480 --> 03:31:12,040 Speaker 5: I will say whenever John went to get his nails done, 4388 03:31:12,080 --> 03:31:16,160 Speaker 5: he did say he was thirsty, so that for water Riley. 4389 03:31:17,120 --> 03:31:17,360 Speaker 1: Sure. 4390 03:31:18,360 --> 03:31:20,560 Speaker 4: I was also while we were talking about the Manning putties, 4391 03:31:20,640 --> 03:31:21,360 Speaker 4: I was thinking of. 4392 03:31:22,120 --> 03:31:25,880 Speaker 2: It had never apologize it's destroyed. 4393 03:31:27,120 --> 03:31:29,840 Speaker 4: I was thinking about an alternate video where you guys 4394 03:31:29,879 --> 03:31:32,640 Speaker 4: get four inch nails on your toes and you walk 4395 03:31:32,680 --> 03:31:33,760 Speaker 4: around like little. 4396 03:31:34,640 --> 03:31:38,279 Speaker 2: What are feet challenges that we could do? 4397 03:31:38,400 --> 03:31:40,080 Speaker 4: You're like tipping and tapping right? 4398 03:31:40,160 --> 03:31:40,320 Speaker 1: Oh? 4399 03:31:40,400 --> 03:31:41,080 Speaker 2: Tap dancing? 4400 03:31:41,440 --> 03:31:44,200 Speaker 4: Whoh No, I just been like tipping and tapping in general. 4401 03:31:44,280 --> 03:31:46,480 Speaker 2: Oh because of our giant clompers. 4402 03:31:46,560 --> 03:31:48,000 Speaker 5: If you do something with your feet, you have to 4403 03:31:48,240 --> 03:31:52,160 Speaker 5: like then do a foot finder like promotion. 4404 03:31:52,400 --> 03:31:55,320 Speaker 2: That's true. I really, I really don't know if you 4405 03:31:55,360 --> 03:31:56,080 Speaker 2: guys want that. 4406 03:31:56,520 --> 03:31:58,280 Speaker 4: No, I'm sorry, this was just my like, I don't 4407 03:31:58,320 --> 03:31:59,280 Speaker 4: want you to actually do it. 4408 03:32:00,200 --> 03:32:03,080 Speaker 5: Sure, Okay, now she's back pedal. 4409 03:32:05,200 --> 03:32:08,560 Speaker 3: Well, you know what, Erica Taylor Allen says, I see 4410 03:32:08,600 --> 03:32:12,160 Speaker 3: today is bully John Day vindication. 4411 03:32:13,480 --> 03:32:14,240 Speaker 1: Vindication. 4412 03:32:15,640 --> 03:32:16,959 Speaker 2: Hey, shout out to you, Erica. 4413 03:32:17,720 --> 03:32:22,400 Speaker 4: I would never I feel like Jenna Marbles would get 4414 03:32:22,440 --> 03:32:23,600 Speaker 4: four inch nails on. 4415 03:32:23,600 --> 03:32:26,119 Speaker 2: Her Oh, that's true. 4416 03:32:26,160 --> 03:32:28,920 Speaker 4: I want that video. Where is Jenna? I miss her? 4417 03:32:29,200 --> 03:32:34,200 Speaker 3: We got to get her on the show. See do 4418 03:32:34,240 --> 03:32:38,560 Speaker 3: you want Jenner Marbles on the show? Tag Jenna Marbles. 4419 03:32:38,600 --> 03:32:39,240 Speaker 4: I love you Jenna. 4420 03:32:39,440 --> 03:32:40,320 Speaker 2: Yes, let's get it wrong. 4421 03:32:40,360 --> 03:32:42,520 Speaker 4: I watched I have watched all your videos. 4422 03:32:42,600 --> 03:32:43,120 Speaker 2: Let's get her wrong. 4423 03:32:43,200 --> 03:32:46,520 Speaker 5: Hell yeah, we're gonna Bullie John Day. Let's go Coliners. 4424 03:32:46,640 --> 03:32:47,240 Speaker 2: Get out of here. 4425 03:32:48,000 --> 03:32:51,640 Speaker 4: She did, I'm getting four inch nails on her toes. 4426 03:32:52,720 --> 03:32:54,440 Speaker 4: Maybe I haven't watched videos. 4427 03:32:54,480 --> 03:32:55,480 Speaker 2: We got to run the catalog. 4428 03:32:55,600 --> 03:32:57,920 Speaker 4: Sorry, okay, okay, continue, Yes, so. 4429 03:32:58,920 --> 03:32:59,520 Speaker 2: Where you know? 4430 03:32:59,560 --> 03:33:02,160 Speaker 3: We sent the hot and hot and heavy messages. He 4431 03:33:02,240 --> 03:33:05,360 Speaker 3: wasn't responding, but the messages were marked as red, so 4432 03:33:05,720 --> 03:33:08,520 Speaker 3: I knew or so I thought that he was with 4433 03:33:08,600 --> 03:33:11,199 Speaker 3: my dad, and I figured that I would be evil 4434 03:33:11,520 --> 03:33:15,440 Speaker 3: and make it up to him later. After the fifth message, 4435 03:33:15,600 --> 03:33:18,440 Speaker 3: my step mom, who is two petty chairs over from me, 4436 03:33:18,879 --> 03:33:20,360 Speaker 3: leans over and clears your throat. 4437 03:33:22,520 --> 03:33:23,600 Speaker 2: That was a terrible throat clear. 4438 03:33:24,959 --> 03:33:28,680 Speaker 4: Oh p do I did not know you were that flexible? 4439 03:33:28,800 --> 03:33:38,119 Speaker 1: You have quite away with words? Oh, oh my. 4440 03:33:37,160 --> 03:33:41,840 Speaker 3: God, oh quite away with words, quite away with words 4441 03:33:42,320 --> 03:33:45,680 Speaker 3: meaning there's just you know, she's she's breaking it down. 4442 03:33:46,840 --> 03:33:47,480 Speaker 2: Horrified. 4443 03:33:47,879 --> 03:33:49,880 Speaker 4: I would I would leave the relationship. 4444 03:33:50,560 --> 03:33:53,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, leave the room, leave the relationship, leave the planet. 4445 03:33:54,200 --> 03:33:58,280 Speaker 4: Oh wait, they're not in a rep that's the stepmom. Sorry, 4446 03:33:58,360 --> 03:33:59,520 Speaker 4: I was thinking there. 4447 03:34:01,600 --> 03:34:01,760 Speaker 1: Too. 4448 03:34:02,120 --> 03:34:04,119 Speaker 2: Are we sparking the flames of munos? 4449 03:34:04,720 --> 03:34:09,720 Speaker 4: No, I would I would leave the country. Yeah, go 4450 03:34:09,800 --> 03:34:12,800 Speaker 4: off the grid, Yes, off the grid and start a farm. 4451 03:34:12,920 --> 03:34:14,039 Speaker 2: There we go. I like that. 4452 03:34:14,560 --> 03:34:16,920 Speaker 3: I feel like that's Riley's answer as well. Start a farm. 4453 03:34:16,959 --> 03:34:18,039 Speaker 3: That's like Riley's default. 4454 03:34:18,200 --> 03:34:21,160 Speaker 5: I feel like Star Farm in the appalach Mountains. 4455 03:34:21,240 --> 03:34:21,840 Speaker 2: There, he is. 4456 03:34:23,400 --> 03:34:26,320 Speaker 3: Horrified. I looked at my phone and see her name 4457 03:34:26,520 --> 03:34:30,000 Speaker 3: and not my husband's. We all ended up laughing until 4458 03:34:30,040 --> 03:34:30,840 Speaker 3: tears were. 4459 03:34:30,720 --> 03:34:32,320 Speaker 2: Streaming down our faces. 4460 03:34:32,320 --> 03:34:32,600 Speaker 4: Wow. 4461 03:34:32,840 --> 03:34:33,480 Speaker 2: So yeah. 4462 03:34:33,600 --> 03:34:36,560 Speaker 3: Now my stepmom thinks I'm an info and when I 4463 03:34:36,680 --> 03:34:37,680 Speaker 3: do text her. 4464 03:34:37,760 --> 03:34:41,160 Speaker 2: Will always respond immediately. You do know you are texting 4465 03:34:41,200 --> 03:34:44,600 Speaker 2: me right? Thank goodness we do not live in the 4466 03:34:44,720 --> 03:34:46,240 Speaker 2: same states. 4467 03:34:47,120 --> 03:34:52,440 Speaker 4: Yow's a yeah, owsa, yep, that's tough. Yeah. I always 4468 03:34:52,520 --> 03:34:53,560 Speaker 4: check who you're texting to. 4469 03:34:53,879 --> 03:34:55,199 Speaker 2: Always always check. 4470 03:34:55,200 --> 03:34:58,279 Speaker 4: Especially when you're texting those those texts, those. 4471 03:34:58,560 --> 03:35:02,920 Speaker 2: Those you're not empty decks. Do not send those, that 4472 03:35:03,040 --> 03:35:05,000 Speaker 2: is to your step mom. 4473 03:35:05,120 --> 03:35:07,920 Speaker 4: Yeah no, no, send them to whoever you'd like. Maybe 4474 03:35:07,959 --> 03:35:08,720 Speaker 4: not your step mom. 4475 03:35:08,640 --> 03:35:12,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, or maybe not whoever you'd like. But send them 4476 03:35:12,920 --> 03:35:14,080 Speaker 3: to anyone you. 4477 03:35:14,120 --> 03:35:15,359 Speaker 1: Want to send them. 4478 03:35:18,680 --> 03:35:21,480 Speaker 4: Send them to people who consent and want them. Yes, 4479 03:35:22,480 --> 03:35:26,040 Speaker 4: but not your stem. That's right, even if she consents, 4480 03:35:26,600 --> 03:35:29,000 Speaker 4: even if she asked for it, don't send them. 4481 03:35:28,879 --> 03:35:29,320 Speaker 1: You know what. 4482 03:35:29,560 --> 03:35:32,119 Speaker 2: Take a step back and say, yeah, I'm good. 4483 03:35:32,360 --> 03:35:35,760 Speaker 4: I'm glad that these. Stepmam was good with it. Though 4484 03:35:36,120 --> 03:35:36,840 Speaker 4: she laughed about it. 4485 03:35:36,959 --> 03:35:39,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know everyone, It seems like everyone had a good, 4486 03:35:39,120 --> 03:35:39,760 Speaker 2: good sense humor. 4487 03:35:39,879 --> 03:35:41,160 Speaker 4: Everyone laughed about it. 4488 03:35:41,200 --> 03:35:42,760 Speaker 2: What are the good people saying? 4489 03:35:43,680 --> 03:35:47,480 Speaker 3: Lemester Limester says, Oh my lord, I felt my face 4490 03:35:47,560 --> 03:35:48,400 Speaker 3: hot from that one. 4491 03:35:48,600 --> 03:35:49,360 Speaker 2: That is so funny. 4492 03:35:49,400 --> 03:35:52,279 Speaker 3: Though at least she didn't call her a floozy or something. 4493 03:35:52,520 --> 03:35:53,439 Speaker 3: That's true. 4494 03:35:53,680 --> 03:35:55,720 Speaker 2: It could have gone like very left, something we see 4495 03:35:55,720 --> 03:35:56,200 Speaker 2: all the time. 4496 03:35:56,320 --> 03:35:58,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, she couln't worry about it, but she was chill. 4497 03:35:58,480 --> 03:35:59,879 Speaker 2: She was chill, chill step mom. 4498 03:36:00,040 --> 03:36:02,120 Speaker 4: She's like, I'm a cool mom, don't worry about it. 4499 03:36:02,320 --> 03:36:07,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, who else have we got? Oh? Where's the one? 4500 03:36:08,000 --> 03:36:10,720 Speaker 2: Here we go? Uh? Do you want to take that one? 4501 03:36:11,360 --> 03:36:15,160 Speaker 4: Kim Kwant says, I sent hey I'm in the closet 4502 03:36:15,240 --> 03:36:17,279 Speaker 4: to my work chat one time when I was trying 4503 03:36:17,320 --> 03:36:21,760 Speaker 4: to tell my friend who had just come over. So 4504 03:36:23,879 --> 03:36:26,000 Speaker 4: you're like, oh, I'm in the closet, like when you 4505 03:36:26,000 --> 03:36:30,320 Speaker 4: get here. But she said your hey, guys, I'm in 4506 03:36:30,360 --> 03:36:37,240 Speaker 4: the closet. I'm imagining I'm in the closet. I'll be 4507 03:36:37,280 --> 03:36:37,920 Speaker 4: out in a sec. 4508 03:36:38,240 --> 03:36:42,880 Speaker 2: Yeah right, Oh my gosh, that is hilarious. Jem Oh 4509 03:36:42,920 --> 03:36:45,120 Speaker 2: my god. I want to know the flexible thing that 4510 03:36:45,240 --> 03:36:45,840 Speaker 2: she could do. 4511 03:36:46,959 --> 03:36:50,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I was confused by that because if it's 4512 03:36:50,280 --> 03:36:52,520 Speaker 4: just text, but if it's I was thinking maybe there 4513 03:36:52,520 --> 03:36:54,080 Speaker 4: were pictures and that's what she was. 4514 03:36:54,320 --> 03:36:58,080 Speaker 2: I think it was all all uh a descriptive. 4515 03:36:58,240 --> 03:37:01,720 Speaker 4: Oh oh she was telling Yeah, she was describing what 4516 03:37:01,800 --> 03:37:03,080 Speaker 4: she was going to do. And she was like, wow, 4517 03:37:03,200 --> 03:37:04,200 Speaker 4: your fex flexible. 4518 03:37:04,680 --> 03:37:06,600 Speaker 3: The Raven said it was a little bit down. The 4519 03:37:06,680 --> 03:37:10,119 Speaker 3: Raven said, I'm a cool mom. Won any snacks? Condoms? 4520 03:37:10,360 --> 03:37:11,400 Speaker 2: You crazy kids? 4521 03:37:11,840 --> 03:37:11,960 Speaker 1: Bro? 4522 03:37:12,560 --> 03:37:13,600 Speaker 2: Raven is a cool mom. 4523 03:37:13,720 --> 03:37:15,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's so true. 4524 03:37:14,760 --> 03:37:16,160 Speaker 2: So that's great, that's great. 4525 03:37:16,280 --> 03:37:19,600 Speaker 4: The cringe, I'm cringing. Crystal Light says, God. 4526 03:37:19,600 --> 03:37:22,920 Speaker 2: Love it me do So are we do we have 4527 03:37:22,959 --> 03:37:25,600 Speaker 2: any more stories? Wow? Wow? 4528 03:37:25,720 --> 03:37:26,760 Speaker 4: Have we read all the stories? 4529 03:37:26,959 --> 03:37:27,840 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen? 4530 03:37:28,200 --> 03:37:29,840 Speaker 5: We could go, we could keep going. 4531 03:37:29,920 --> 03:37:30,520 Speaker 1: It's all good. 4532 03:37:30,840 --> 03:37:31,520 Speaker 2: We've done. 4533 03:37:32,080 --> 03:37:33,800 Speaker 4: Guys, will never stop. 4534 03:37:34,000 --> 03:37:36,560 Speaker 2: Riley, Riley, get get on the get on the streamil 4535 03:37:36,600 --> 03:37:38,720 Speaker 2: let me see your po face. There he is there. 4536 03:37:38,879 --> 03:37:41,039 Speaker 2: You go an hour, Actually go small again. 4537 03:37:40,920 --> 03:37:43,959 Speaker 3: So we can see so great, ladies and gentlemen, thank 4538 03:37:44,000 --> 03:37:46,680 Speaker 3: you for joining us on our first like I would say, 4539 03:37:46,720 --> 03:37:50,439 Speaker 3: our first like official true, Yeah, because I'm here, Yes. 4540 03:37:50,240 --> 03:37:50,800 Speaker 2: Because. 4541 03:37:52,400 --> 03:37:54,520 Speaker 3: You are one hundred percent right? How could how could 4542 03:37:54,520 --> 03:37:57,080 Speaker 3: we ever think? And you know what to close it out? 4543 03:37:57,200 --> 03:38:01,280 Speaker 3: We have the entire crew, the higher okay fam here. 4544 03:38:01,400 --> 03:38:04,480 Speaker 4: Oh sorry, Estella Davis says, Wait, we haven't gotten to 4545 03:38:04,560 --> 03:38:07,240 Speaker 4: bully Sam yet. Don't worry. I beat you to it. 4546 03:38:07,440 --> 03:38:08,720 Speaker 2: There it is, there, it is. 4547 03:38:08,760 --> 03:38:11,640 Speaker 3: It was Bully John day, and Sam will have his day, 4548 03:38:11,760 --> 03:38:12,520 Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen. 4549 03:38:13,840 --> 03:38:15,680 Speaker 2: But a few quick reminders. 4550 03:38:16,160 --> 03:38:19,560 Speaker 3: We are going to be doing some exclusive live streams 4551 03:38:19,600 --> 03:38:22,560 Speaker 3: on Twitch. If you go to the link in the description, 4552 03:38:23,240 --> 03:38:26,040 Speaker 3: you can go subscribe there, go subscribe now. Probably starting 4553 03:38:26,080 --> 03:38:28,360 Speaker 3: next week, we're gonna be doing some exclusive live streams 4554 03:38:28,400 --> 03:38:33,320 Speaker 3: over there. Also, we do have some fantastic red flag 4555 03:38:33,400 --> 03:38:36,680 Speaker 3: Green Flag merch which Sam is dawning right now. 4556 03:38:36,879 --> 03:38:37,279 Speaker 4: Hey. 4557 03:38:38,080 --> 03:38:40,280 Speaker 2: We have hats, we have hoodies, we have overalls. 4558 03:38:40,879 --> 03:38:47,400 Speaker 3: We're grabbing the beautiful red flag hoodie right here, which 4559 03:38:47,400 --> 03:38:50,560 Speaker 3: you saw me exclusively wearing earlier, as well as. 4560 03:38:51,440 --> 03:38:53,959 Speaker 2: It's the red flag hat guys. The link is in 4561 03:38:54,000 --> 03:38:54,560 Speaker 2: our description. 4562 03:38:55,240 --> 03:38:58,400 Speaker 3: We are only selling us until February February ninth, or 4563 03:38:58,480 --> 03:38:59,840 Speaker 3: until supplies run. 4564 03:38:59,680 --> 03:39:04,120 Speaker 2: Out, so please go grab some. I think that's a wrap, y'all. 4565 03:39:05,280 --> 03:39:09,600 Speaker 2: If you love us, please make sure to subscribe. 4566 03:39:09,840 --> 03:39:15,720 Speaker 1: We love you and see all them a all right, 4567 03:39:15,800 --> 03:39:16,360 Speaker 1: we're stopped