1 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am dale Alie. He is Matt Williamson, 2 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: and Matt I thought we'd take a look here. We're 3 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: four games into the two season. Daniel Jeremiah ranks the 4 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: top twenty five rookies of the first quarter of the 5 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: season here, and I thought that might be interesting to 6 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: take a look at him and we can kind of 7 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: talk about, well, whether some of these guys are rising 8 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: or falling. It's great. Twenty five is Isaiah Pacheco of 9 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I do too. I picked him up this week. 10 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: I thought he looked good last one. I mean he 11 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: runs hard's fast. Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm I'm very 12 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: unimpressed with Edwards Hilaire and just in terms of handing 13 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: it to him and getting what's blocked and more. I 14 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: think he's the best guy. Yeah. Twenty four is Abraham Lucas, 15 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: an offensive tackle for the Seattle Seahawks. He's from Washington 16 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: State if I remember correctly. Yeah, he's the other offensive 17 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: tackle for them, and their old line hasn't been terrible 18 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: despite you know, they used two pretty early picks, including 19 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: the first rounder, on tackles. I think they found two 20 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: tackles in the draft. Yah. Yeah, twenty three is George Pickens. 21 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: I get that he's played a lot of snaps. You 22 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: come on strong. I mean after two weeks he wouldn't 23 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: be on the list just because there's no production. The 24 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks have been Yeah, and he's productive 25 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: open a lot in his first couple of weeks. If 26 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: if Daniel Jeremiah does this another four weeks from now, 27 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: at the midway point of the seasons, pickings twenty three 28 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: or higher than that, yeah, I think he might be 29 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: top ten by then, right, I mean, hey, I love Deonte. 30 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: The way the trajectory is moving here, I think the 31 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: end of the season pickings might be their number one. 32 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: And I think that's possible. I think it's in the 33 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:56,279 Speaker 1: Roman possibility. At twenty two. His Cowboys offensive tackle Tyler Smith. 34 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: I've watched him. I haven't been super impressed. Yeah, he's 35 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: actually been. I haven't studied him. I mean, I'm not 36 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: gonna subsider and say I watched every snap, but I 37 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: know all the reports and their offense with Cooper Rush 38 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: has been much better since he bounced out the tackle 39 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: because he practiced a guard the whole time. And then 40 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: Tyron Smith gets hurt and They're like, well, I guess 41 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna be a tackle nown and he's held up. 42 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: Well he've been okay. Yeah. Twenty one is a player 43 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: that will see this weekend with the Bills. Tyre Elam, 44 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: the cornerback. Okay. I haven't studied him. I mean, I 45 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: know he's been playing a fair amount, but I haven't 46 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: watched him enough. I liked him coming out. Twenty is 47 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions linebacker. I can take anybody off that Detroit defense. 48 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: Malcolm Rodriguez. I don't even remember him from the draft. 49 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: You must not watched Hard Knox because he was I mean, 50 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 1: he's a feel good story. He's seen undrafted guy. I 51 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: think he's a sixth rounder. I don't remember super productive there. 52 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: He's kind of a Madakavitch type, you know, but maybe 53 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: he's a fine. He plays a lot for them on 54 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: a bad fence, undersized, you know, tackling machine at nineteen. 55 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: It's a guy we loved in the draft. Zion Johnson 56 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: from the Chargers. He was truly We always say these 57 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: things leading up to the draft, if anyone's the safest prospect, 58 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: just play yeah, and then they come in and they 59 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: get they're terrible or but he's been plugging play solid boom. Yeah. 60 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: Eighteen is Jets defensive end Jermaine Johnson. I was impressed 61 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: with him against the Steelers and he was starting to 62 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: come on the game before that as well. He gave 63 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: gave the tackle some hard time. He fell in the 64 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: draft war we expected. Yeah, seventeen. Another player would like 65 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: to draft to Chicago Jets on here, but I think 66 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: about it. Chicago Bear safety Jokum Brisker. Yeah, he's been 67 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: really good. It's funny. We had this conversation on my 68 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: podcast today. It's like, join Risker is really good, but 69 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: they should have taken Pickens. Yeah, you know what I mean, 70 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: help your quarterback, I mean a good safety. Sure we 71 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: could use that guy, but should Uh it's sixteen Packers 72 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: wide receiver Romeo Dobbs. Yeah, he plays every snap. He's 73 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: not their number one. He dropped a touchdown. He's a 74 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: keeper though. Yeah at fifteen Ravens center Tyler Linderbaum. I 75 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: haven't studied him. Um. I can't haven't run the ball anything, 76 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: not not with running backs with them are they have? 77 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 1: I don't know how he's held up in protection, to 78 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: be honest with I think it's more just a name. 79 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: Maybe I mean plug. He was a plug and play 80 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: two guy. And if you're a starter from day one, 81 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: I guess that you know hold some water. Fourteen is 82 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: Seahawks cornerback Tarik Woolen. He was supposed to be a project. Yeah, 83 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: the Hawks. Actually a lot of people laughed at them, 84 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: including myself. You know, like, boy, you're you're gonna be 85 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: terrible this year. The year, what are you doing drafting 86 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: a running back that high? But they drafted two tackles, 87 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: two edge rushers, and two corners and now they have 88 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: two first round picks next year and Gino was playing 89 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: pretty well, Like maybe they know a thing or two 90 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: up there about team building. A third team is Patriots 91 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: cornerback Jack Jones. Okay, he plays a lot. I'm not 92 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: impressed with him to say he wouldn't be that high 93 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: on my list. I mean Zion Johnson had him. Yeah, absolutely. 94 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: Twelve is Quay Walker from the Packers. Yeah, I mean, 95 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: as all early linebackers do. There's times he looks lost 96 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: and we've had that conversation. But he's active. Um one 97 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: trend and I'm not knocking Bush, but he doesn't have 98 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: this is there's some of these teams like Indie Green 99 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: Bay that just have extreme length at the linebacker position. 100 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: You know, Campbell and this dude that these giant Condor 101 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: arms that are six three Edmunds, who the Steelers are 102 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: gonna play this week, that that's a big deal in 103 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: those zones and cutting down lanes, you know, I mean 104 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: you should hard head a little bit. Yeah, you gotta 105 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,239 Speaker 1: loop it over their head, and that's a little harder. 106 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: It's just a lot more space. Eleven is John Dotson 107 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: from the Commanders. Monitor his injury situation, I mean about that, 108 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: but he's an impressive young guy. Ten is Damian Pierce 109 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: with the Texans. Yeah, he started a little slow. This 110 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: past week, he started catching passes. He might even be 111 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: edging out Barkhead on that. I think he had every 112 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: carry for them this year this past week. He's a bulldog. 113 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,559 Speaker 1: I mean, I hope he holds up. Nine is Jalen 114 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: Petre from the Texans. Yeah, they got a couple of going. 115 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if if Stingley will be on this 116 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: list or not, but they got three foundational players, two 117 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: of them defensive backs. Petreet taking the ball away a 118 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: couple of times. Eight is Bruce Hall coming on Strong. 119 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: We talked about him a lot last week. Um, I'm impressed. 120 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: I think these best days are yet to come. I 121 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: remember DJ loved the Bruce Halt. I mean he had 122 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: him higher than most people. Uh. Seven is Drake London. 123 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: Quieted down a little because they don't ever throw. They 124 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: don't throw the football. The throwing of the football is 125 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: is big in the wide receiver analysis. But he is 126 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: better than I expected. I didn't think he would be 127 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: one of the hop receivers as a rookie and he is. 128 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: Six is Aiden Hutchinson. Yeah, I mean bad defense, but 129 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: he gets doubled. You know some of those ESPN S 130 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: pass rush stats and stuff. Hutchinson was near the top 131 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: of the league in doubles. Everyone realizes what he is 132 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: and part of it because they don't have anybody else 133 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: right right, if you're in double, somebody might as well 134 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: be that guy. Uh. Five is Garrett Wilson. Yeah we 135 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: saw him. He didn't hurt the Steelers all that bad, 136 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: but he's kind of a special mover. Would be a 137 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: real quick, fluid guy. Um, I think he's gonna be 138 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: a very very good player. Four is Devin Walker. I'm sorry, 139 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: Devon Lloyd I should say, yeah, really good. Um, but 140 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: he too. The first three weeks he was super impressive. 141 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: He's another one of these long linebackers. You know it's 142 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: well over six ft um. But if you watch the 143 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: second half against the Eagles, he was part of the 144 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: problem in terms of getting manipulated by Jalen Hurts and 145 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: you know the comeback for the Eagles. He looked like 146 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: a rookie linebacker, which all these guys do. Three is 147 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: tray Von Walker. I love him. I didn't think I 148 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: would the way that Jags used him. He'll drop into coverage, 149 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: He'll he'll rush over the center, he'll put his hand down, 150 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: and the interior he'll do normal defensive end stuff. You 151 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: talk about length and looking the part, he's crazy looking. 152 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: I mean he's still a work in progress. I'm not 153 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: saying he's gonna be a star, but I I see it. Yeah. 154 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: Two is Crystal Lovey. They throw deep to him. Yeah, 155 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: I mean he's in Winston, loves chucking it deep and 156 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: he's a good fit. Might change if Andy Dalton's the quarter, 157 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: Yeah it might. I would do you think the love 158 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: will lead that team? And receiving I had heard no 159 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: faith in the other guys. What I mean, right, I 160 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: think he probably will. And then number one he just 161 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: saw as well this week, Sauce Gardener, he's number one, okay, 162 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: I mean he did really well against Chase. I didn't 163 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: study every rev. He didn't see a lot of them 164 00:08:55,080 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 1: this week, right, right, Um, so curious pick it is 165 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: now in the mix. And I remember when Mayfield one 166 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year. I think it was about week 167 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: four when in week I thought he started like the 168 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: last uh maybe ten games, because I remember I would 169 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: have voted for Barkley that year because Barkley did start 170 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: to finish. And I also thought Mayfield was a little 171 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: overrated beyond because he played really bad. Um. But my 172 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: point is pick it is still very much in striking 173 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: distance for Rookie of the year. Especially Yeah, offensively, absolutely. 174 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: I mean if you look at this top ten, it's one, two, three, 175 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: it's not a great class. Four five, Five of the 176 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 1: top ten rookies here are defensive players, you know, I 177 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: think the defensive guys. And it was a defensive heavy draft. 178 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: It was it was so you would expect that, um, 179 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: you know, but there's not a rookie Sofce Gardner, Trey 180 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: Von wis for devn Lloyd. Those guys aren't probably going 181 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: anywhere in terms of these rookie rankings, and linebackers are 182 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: to continue to put up, but some of those receivers 183 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: very dependent upon what goes on around them, no question 184 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: about it. And how's that going to work in New Orleans, Atlanta, 185 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 1: New York with the Jets. They're not exactly Rogers row into, 186 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Um, I can't see another 187 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: quarterback rookie. I'm not only talking about rookies getting on 188 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: the field, at least in the next couple of weeks, 189 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: bearing in barring injury. I mean, I think Ritter might 190 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: play at some point, but it's probably November. How might 191 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: play at some point? Yeah? Maybe, you know, I mean 192 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: Corral's out, which is crazy. You know when you talked 193 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: about this rookie quarterback class, and we've already seen the 194 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: situation in Tennessee where he's gotten on the field, right right. Um, 195 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: you know everybody trashed this quarterback draft class after the draft. 196 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: Well see, you you know we were right about this. 197 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: They can all all of them could play this year. 198 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean I still think it's a pretty 199 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: decent class. And how who you mentioned it was a 200 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: early fifth really the only one that was season. You know, 201 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: if you've already seen it in New England and he 202 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: was would be actually got it. Zappy was Zappi's playing 203 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: Zappy might start this week, right right, there's a pretty 204 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: good chance you will, but usually there's a a nausey too. 205 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: I mean a back that's already put up big numbers 206 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: that could come for haul. You know, Pierce has been okay, 207 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: has they've been Um London might be my vote right now, 208 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 1: but not if he runs ten routes today, you know 209 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: that's gonna weather away pretty darn where they complete seven 210 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: passes per game like they did last week. I mean 211 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: Wilson has really had one good game, a Love has 212 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: had two. I mean it's a good receiver class. Pickens 213 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: could still be in the mix too. He's played as 214 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 1: much big game and he made a highlight catch in 215 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 1: the game before that. But I mean offensive rookie of 216 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: the year is very much in striking distance. Yeah, so 217 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: it's all wide open. I think you know another in 218 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: another four weeks. If you take a look at this, 219 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: Kenny pick is probably in the top ten, even if 220 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: he plays poorly. Right, you know, what I mean, if 221 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,599 Speaker 1: you're starting quarterback and you're surviving, you should be on 222 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: that list. Yeah, you know, it's kind of my my 223 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: point with that. And you know, if he's in there 224 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: the way Pickens is trending, he's probably in the top fifteen. Yeah. 225 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: I think a month or mile picking Pickens will be 226 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: in the top ten. Yeah, I'm pretty confident about that. Yeah. So, 227 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 1: you know, I think things are headed the right way. Um. 228 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: You know, I think the Steelers are getting actually quite 229 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: a bit out of this draft class, got a ton 230 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: of last year's just in terms of Leal Is playing 231 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: a lot of important snaps for them at that point. 232 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: You know, so I think, you know, those top three 233 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: picks are maybe not to the level of last year's 234 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: class because you know, you had to start running back, 235 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: running back, a tight end, you know, starting left tackle. 236 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: They were basically immediate starters, especially starting seeing it at 237 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: the starting center in there as well. Um like that too, 238 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: you know, aid some snaps. Yeah right right. I mean again, 239 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: the Jets and Lions were the only teams that played 240 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: more rookie snaps last year than the Steelers, which, folks, 241 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: should give you a lot of confidence when you're building 242 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: around a young quarterback. The class ahead of him has 243 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: a lot of experience, the offense is super young. There 244 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: would be another pretty good you know, who knows what 245 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: if the draft class will be good, but I mean 246 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: they're gonna have a you know, not a late pick, 247 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: I would imagine, you know, so there could be a 248 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: real core of young guys here. You know. Back to 249 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: our firemoveth conversation from last sight, Yeah, I think it's uh, 250 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: it's interesting here we get the quarterback indext today as well. Okay, 251 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: let's see where Mark Sessler. Does he insert Kenny Pickett 252 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: in here this week? And where does he put Kenny 253 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: picking in this week's Does he just automatically insert him? 254 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be critical if he did. But he played 255 00:13:51,200 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: well for his zapping, putting behind Davis Mills. No, just 256 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: a field football fields has been terrible. Baker would be 257 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: last for me at thirty two. He does have Zappy. 258 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: That's probably safe. I mean, nobody planned on playing Zappy. 259 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: They choose the game. It was an emergency situation. The 260 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: last guy, but he does have pick Picket is at 261 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: thirty one. That's fair. Yeah, I don't envy him for 262 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: having to rank him. Yeah, um, as he said, first 263 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: time NFL rookie starters beginning to basement until we see 264 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: more than one game. That's fair. That's absolutely Trevor Lawrence 265 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: who never played or I don't remember him doing that. 266 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: With Trevor Lawrence last year they had a couple of 267 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: starters they had to kind of rank them. Yeah. I 268 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: don't know. Justin Fields at thirty only because well, he 269 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: can't put him any lower and he's been pretty bad. 270 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: I mean it's passing, it's really poor. Um, it's funny 271 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: you brought this up because I didn't plan on talking 272 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: about this, but we we looked at ep A today 273 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: on my podcast. Baker Mayfields a distant last. Yeah. If 274 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: anyone who's played a appos here distant last, horrendous, horrendous. Yeah, 275 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: he's at twenty nine. Good. I hope we hear him soon. 276 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: He's completing fifty four point seven percent of his passes 277 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: with six fumbles fumbles and eight bad it passes by J. J. 278 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: Wallace at up three spots because the three roof the 279 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: two rookies moving there is Davis Mills. He's been pretty bad. Yeah. Yeah. Uh. 280 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: At seven is Zack Wilson making his I guess that's 281 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: kind of like ranking the rookies too. I mean, he's 282 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: played one game his last year doesn't help his cause 283 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: at all, and he wasn't great against Steelers. You know, 284 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: down the spot is Daniel Jones. I might have him 285 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: a little higher. He's hurt. Now, Well we'll see who 286 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: who you put him above? Here is Matt Ryan down 287 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: three spots. He is sinking like a rock. Yeah, well 288 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: he end up? Will he end up below Kenny Picket 289 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: this year? Yes? I think I think he shot more 290 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: than I think. I think Indianapolis is is going to 291 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: be in the quarterback market again next year for the 292 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: fifth year in a row. Yeah, and it's time to 293 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: stop doing the band aid thing and maybe trade up 294 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: to the second spot or whatever. In four games, Matt 295 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: Ryan has five interceptions and nine fumbles. He's averaging three 296 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: turnover now he does in Jonathan Tylor this week. You know, like, 297 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: I think that offense is an embarrassment. Half the reason 298 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: at twenty four breaking into the rankings, Andy Dalton, this 299 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: is why I think I think he could be he 300 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: could be their starter. He he averaged eight point four 301 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: yards per past attempt last week. Yeah, he was certainly 302 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: not the reason they lost. They didn't have Kamara, they 303 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: didn't have time, right, you know, like he didn't get 304 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: worse all of a sudden. He's been twenty four his 305 00:16:53,960 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: whole life. At twenty three, down six spots, Marcus Mariota. 306 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: He had a rough one. Does Kenny pick a finish 307 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: ahead of Marcus Mariota in these rankings? I bet he 308 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: plays more games when it's all said and done, and 309 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: even though he's behind the eight ball in that conversation, 310 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: and yes, I think he will. He's got four interceptions 311 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: with six fumbles and they don't ever throw and they 312 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: don't ever throw the football. Yeah. Uh. At twenty two, 313 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: breaking into the rankings is Teddy Bridgewater. Him and Dalton 314 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: should be right next to each other. Yeah, and they 315 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: kind are. Twenty one down through two spots is Carson Wentz. 316 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: It's a little kind. There's some other guys that are 317 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: breaking in here that probably kept him from being a 318 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: little bit low. It happens every week, you know, someone 319 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: that you didn't expect gets in there because like to 320 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: it would have been over. You know. Uh, it's twenty 321 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: down four spots. Jacoby Brissette coming back to earth a 322 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: little didn't play great this past week. I think there's 323 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: more film out there on him. Now you start to 324 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: get a little better idea of what he comes. Guys 325 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: like him and Gino Smith there way exceeded expectations, and 326 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,239 Speaker 1: I would have Smith pretty high, but we'll see if 327 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: it's if, if it's sustainable at nineteen. Down A spot 328 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: is Derek Carr hasn't been great. They gave him all 329 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: like you go out to get him, get him, Davante Adams. 330 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: He's got Waller, it's supposed to be great this year. 331 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: He's got this great play caller in there with Josh McDaniels, 332 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: and it is not working for Derek Carr. No, I 333 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: probably would still have him higher based on his history, 334 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: and I think he might be playing against behind the 335 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: worst offensive line in the league or one of the 336 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: bottom three. I also think that's the lowest will be 337 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: all year. Yeah, you can only go up. They got 338 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: the Chiefs this week. He's gonna have to throw through it. Yeah, 339 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: I think eighteen boy. I don't know about this up 340 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: six spots. Jimmy Garoppolo. I didn't think he played that 341 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: well Monday or Sunday night or Monday night. It was 342 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: Most of the guys we mentioned, though, are having bad years, 343 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: bad years, and I wouldn't say having a bad year. 344 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: But Jimmy's one touchdown passed last week was Deebo Samuel 345 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: making a play that was out of his mind. Yeah, right, 346 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: right right, was like technically one thing he did, and 347 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: that's how he's kind of been there. Seventeen down three spots. 348 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence had a rough week, a lot of fumbles 349 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: in the rain. I bet that's as low as he 350 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: goes to worried. Uh, it's sixteen up five spots, Cooper Rush, 351 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: Come on, come on, he hasn't turned the ball over 352 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: on ding that. But you can't put him in this neighbor. 353 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: I mean what he's asked to do versus Lawrence or 354 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: you know. Fifteen down two spots is Kirk Cousins. He 355 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: lives in twelve to fifteen, fourteen up six spots. Russell 356 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: Wilson had his best game. That's all well and good, 357 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: but the first three were real bad, horrendous, and his 358 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: best game still doesn't mean it was a great game. 359 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 1: Thirteen down five spots is Matthew Stafford. There he goes, 360 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: they're a little broke. He doesn't look right. Their line 361 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: is really bad. And when Higgbie's your two and Robinson 362 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: doesn't exist, and they're one of the worst running teams 363 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: in the league. And I don't think he's a healthy 364 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 1: that's not going to play. It's looking more like Lions 365 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford this year. I'm just gonna throw the by 366 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: trust my arm. I throw the ball, and you're supposed 367 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: to cop every time. Twelve holding steady and I had 368 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: to come on Ryan tanney Hill. Ryan tanne Hill is 369 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: not the twelfth best quarterback in this league. I'd take 370 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: I'd take Derek Carry time and again, Yeah, they're not 371 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: even close. They're not even the same tier to me. 372 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: Eleven up four spots is Jared Goff. I kind of 373 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: believe in them, especially behind a line like that. Yeah, 374 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: I mean he's is throwing the ball very well. Uh 375 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: generated a ton of points without Swift and st Brown. 376 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: He is having a good year at tennis. Kyler Murray 377 00:20:54,320 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: okay at nine up seventeen spots. Smith I mentioned e 378 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: p A. He's fourth in the league in ep A. 379 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: Can't put him as the ninth best quarterback in the 380 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: league though, because he's he's completing remember I was shocked 381 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: looking at his accuracy numbers. He hasn't been bad. I'm 382 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: sure he'll fall back to earth, don't get me wrong, 383 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: but I mean to give him some credit, he'd be 384 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: five spots lower than that. It would be he doesn't 385 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: deserve to jump seventeen spots. I think would rather play 386 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: against him and Kyler Murray. I think so at eight 387 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: he doesn't deserve to be tucked in between Kyler Murray 388 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: and this guy Joe Burrow. Right, that's the wrong it's 389 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: a it's a nice house. It's in sitting out in 390 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: the wrong neighborhood. Though, Yeah, it's seven up, two spots. 391 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: I don't know about this Tom Brady. What did he 392 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: do in that last game that made you look at 393 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: that go, oh yeah, he had he's moving up. I'm 394 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: would have him right there with Burrow though I can't. 395 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a unique case. I didn't think he 396 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: played well at all last week. Threw a ton a 397 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: lot was asked of him. I didn't think he was 398 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: super impressed. There were a lot of balls thrown into 399 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: the ground, and he's just not right about the injury 400 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: thing that I have. Yeah, uh, six up a spot 401 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, but nobody's I hear you right, Um, Rogers 402 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: really has nothing wrong. Yeah, I think those around him 403 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: have done well at five holding steady Justin Herbert at 404 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: four down two spots Jalen Hurts okay, three is Lamar Jackson. 405 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 1: Two is Josh Allen. We got a new number one 406 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: this week, Patrick mahomes back on an e p A. Yeah, um, 407 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: I get it. I mean he Alan's asked to do 408 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: more though he is. I mean just in terms of 409 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: what's around him line that type of thing. He will 410 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: turn the football over there a little bit more than 411 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: those other top guys. All yeah, I mean his three interceptions, 412 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: four fumbles, so you know, if you can get to 413 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: him and do some you know, he will cough it 414 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: up from time to time throughout the course. Again. Um, 415 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: so that'll be interesting to see if the Steelers can 416 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: do that this week. That's what led them to victory 417 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: last year against the Bills. Not only did they block 418 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: a punt, but then one had the force fumble on 419 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: Josh Allen as well. If you remember that, the Steelers 420 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: recovered and that was that was a big play in 421 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: that game as well. Yeah. But yeah, we're gonna take 422 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: another break, and then we'll come back for the Fantasy 423 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: Football Focus. You can listen to Steelers Nation Radio anytime 424 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: anywhere through your Steeler through your smart speaker. Just say 425 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: Alexa play Steelers Nation Radio for my heart, and Alexea 426 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: will take care of the rest. He is Matt Williamson. 427 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: I am Dale Lally. 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