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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barria, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Dalley, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Bett, coming soon to Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's do live on a Monday edition of

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Speaker 2: the program. Merely Bo the great gibe Here. How you doing, buddy?

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Speaker 3: Oh, you know, Buddy, it's uh. It is officially Draft week,

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Speaker 3: and it might be boring and uneventful to some. However,

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Speaker 3: it is not for us, given the fact that we

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Speaker 3: still have like f fifteen hours worth the draft shows

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Speaker 3: this week on the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network.

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Speaker 4: We have.

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Speaker 2: This was and has been for the better part of

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Speaker 2: you know, two decades, this has been a draft town.

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Speaker 2: It's been a draft town in the NFL, it's been

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Speaker 2: a draft town in the NBA. We pay very close

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Speaker 2: attention to those lotteries. The Cavaliers benefited very greatly, as

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Speaker 2: big as you can benefit from those lotteries. But even

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Speaker 2: with us, and it's a byproduct of the lack of

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Speaker 2: success of a of a fifty, you know, for the

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Speaker 2: better part since the organization came back. The super Bowl

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Speaker 2: was the Draft. It's been that way and anybody you

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Speaker 2: talk to around town, and I think at times maybe

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Speaker 2: we overvalue first round picks because it's something that means

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Speaker 2: so much, so we make it. We almost there's this

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Speaker 2: belief that there they mean more than they do because

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Speaker 2: it is the Super Bowl, and so you want to

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Speaker 2: hit that, you want to hit on them. And so

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Speaker 2: now we've had a couple of times in the last

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Speaker 2: well after twenty eighteen, we didn't have one with Odell

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Speaker 2: Beckham junior. We didn't have one last year, and we

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Speaker 2: don't have one this year from a first round pick standpoint,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know if the town really knows what

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Speaker 2: to do without one. It's kind of a weird spot.

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Speaker 3: I can say this too, This is the first time

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Speaker 3: in a long time there is not a lot of buzz.

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Speaker 3: Even when we didn't have a first round pick. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: there was still a buzz because after the Odell trade,

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Speaker 3: like there was some big expectations and there was a

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Speaker 3: lot of excitement, like was he the final piece? And

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Speaker 3: you know right now, I mean no first round pick,

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Speaker 3: no second round pick. Yep, there's seventy three players that

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Speaker 3: will be chosen before you are on the clock as

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Speaker 3: of today Monday at one oh three pm. Yeah, And

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Speaker 3: I just I think people are like, I don't know

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Speaker 4: Like am I am?

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Speaker 3: I gonna hang out?

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Speaker 2: Do I watch?

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Speaker 4: I watch?

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Speaker 3: I mean you can watch Thursday night. You're gonna know

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Speaker 3: the players, yeah, Friday. I mean it's our job on

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Speaker 3: the network to kind of familiarize, but really it's going

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Speaker 3: to be familiarizing once we pick a player. Yeah, you

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Speaker 3: can still ten thirty or eleven o'clock at night.

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Speaker 2: You know, when we do the when we solicit the

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Speaker 2: question about, you know, what should we do at seventy three?

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Speaker 2: And Nathan knows this roster better than anybody. The short

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Speaker 2: a position where this is a position of strength and

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Speaker 2: that you could feel the fifty three right now that

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Speaker 2: you get lucky and you crush this draft, you could

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Speaker 2: see a starter coming at defensive tackle that's in play.

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Speaker 2: very likely. I don't think that that's the case. So

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Speaker 2: in that sense, it's a benefit. But in terms of

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Speaker 2: He really could, And it just depends I think what

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Speaker 3: I agree. I think it's in play.

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Speaker 3: I mean you saw Danes seven round. Mok. We talked

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Speaker 3: I think like you said, and they're they're going through

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we can be nimble. I mean, you've got eight picks.

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Speaker 2: You're not drafting eight players, so I hope not. I

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Speaker 2: just don't see how you could. So you would you'll

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Speaker 2: either trade into next year's draft, which trade out of the.

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Speaker 2: I think for yeah, So then that would make a

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Speaker 2: lot of sense to trade into that draft. The other

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Speaker 2: it is that. But you really until you see how

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Speaker 2: to guess where it could go. And all of this

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Speaker 2: this should be a positive because it tells you that

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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals, they picked twenty eight as of right now.

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Speaker 2: They don't really have a tight end, like they need

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Speaker 2: Lately free agency process they are they need really probably

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Speaker 3: Play, be impact players.

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Speaker 2: Be impact players. Absolutely, and there isn't anybody who would

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Speaker 2: But I do think that we have fewer questions going

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Speaker 2: the heck knows what's gonna happens this week. Goes along

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Speaker 2: with the quarterbacks, with Rogers, with Lamar, all of that

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Speaker 3: I mean, i'd like it too, But then there's also

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Speaker 2: So who who benefits from that? So you you had

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Speaker 2: Then you have the story over the weekend. I had

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Speaker 3: I never heard that? Is that replacing the wonder lick?

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Speaker 2: You're better off for it. Yeah, he was very He

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Speaker 2: who gets that out there? Who's putting that out there

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Speaker 4: Is it Indy?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, the great Rock, fantastic, big week for her,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she'll be sleeping here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah she's she looks great. She's in the cream. She's

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Speaker 2: if there isn't anything. And I think that's how the

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Speaker 2: I have no idea what's going to have to him.

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Speaker 2: I saw the betting favorite was Levis going two. By

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Speaker 2: exact it was Young Levice one two. Really, I mean,

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Speaker 2: can I introduce you to Zach Wilson? I mean, what

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Speaker 2: are we doing well?

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Speaker 3: And we'll get to Peter Kings, Yeah, coming up in

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Speaker 3: segment two. But he even says it in his article

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Speaker 3: This Morning a month ago. CJ. Stroud was the odds

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Speaker 3: on favorite right to be the first pick in the draft.

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Speaker 3: Today it's no lock. He goes in the tops seven.

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Speaker 2: So what changed? He had a great pro day, he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what changed?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I did just see it. I I don't know

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Speaker 3: blame it on that, yep, because I don't know how

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Speaker 2: Do you think it was do you think sometimes I

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Speaker 2: I kind of just feel like that the Knicks were

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're all they're all tall, they're all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're physical too. It's not like we got a

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Speaker 3: Like, wasn't it a month ago, I was trying to

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Speaker 2: Well I recently, Yeah, he's I mean, Mitchell's going to

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Speaker 2: But this stage, it's a tough stage, and you can

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Speaker 2: see it like they just feel like they're not quite

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Speaker 3: And I'm pulling up I'm pulling up rosters here because

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Speaker 3: airing of the grievance time. If we're going to talk

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Speaker 3: I tweeted that knock him down at least send a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I tough spot tough spots. Also, these games

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Speaker 2: so we played Friday at eight thirty, and then you

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Speaker 2: Is that the way I understand it. The only thing

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Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like, it's usually not eight thirty

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Speaker 2: one seven. All over the place. The Lakers series has

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Speaker 2: been all over the place. It's been three o'clock, last Sunday,

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Speaker 4: So it's.

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Speaker 3: How about that that lunatic?

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Speaker 5: Is it?

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Speaker 4: Brooks? Your boy?

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Speaker 2: Your boy Dylan Brooks.

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Speaker 3: Come on and like and then you're gonna blame it

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Speaker 3: on the media and the fans for getting thrown out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's there's a long list of those guys tho.

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Speaker 2: You know, Kobe Stopper, Lebron Stopper, guys who start to

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Speaker 2: reality is it's like the line from mad Men, I

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Speaker 2: don't think about you at all, Like the media doesn't

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Speaker 2: think about Dylan Brooks at all.

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Speaker 3: No, none, Like you're trying to make yourself relevant.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did you see Lebron before the game? Walk right

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Speaker 2: up to him, put him in his place? And then

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Speaker 2: it's thirty five to nine after the first quarter. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you don't tug on Superman's cape. You don't spit into

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Speaker 2: don't run your mouth on lebronn But I.

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Speaker 3: You you woke you woke him up. You deserve everything

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Speaker 3: you get in then, So for what's coming If you're

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Speaker 3: the Knicks, what do you do with Randall? Like he's

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Speaker 3: been a non factor and when he's been in the game,

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Speaker 3: he's almost been a liability outside of that game three.

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Speaker 2: He luckily for them, it doesn't matter. I mean, but

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Speaker 3: And those guys are just seem to fit better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's yeah, you know they're gonna win the series

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Speaker 2: we had the guy we just referred to. We don't

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Speaker 2: have him anymore, so he's not walking through them. No,

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Speaker 2: they're they're gonna win the series. I think three ones

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Speaker 3: Just like that and the other the other just maddening factor,

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Speaker 3: Like you were you have been such a good defensive

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Speaker 3: team this entire season. How can you not slow down Brunson?

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Speaker 3: That kid's getting everything he wants, Like, make him put

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Speaker 3: the ball on the ground. That's the only thing I

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Speaker 2: Well, here's though, Like if Mitchell's not going to get

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Speaker 2: if he's at you know what happened over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: then it really doesn't matter the rest of it. Like

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Speaker 3: So like at the same time, you can't like you

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Speaker 3: can't stop him down the stretch. I think they score

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Speaker 3: five straight possessions.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Like you're not getting back into the game that way.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, And frankly, as bad as the weather's

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Speaker 2: no end in sight, is there. There's not sun anytime?

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Speaker 2: I mean sunning right now.

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Speaker 3: I mean it was supposed to be decent.

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Speaker 3: I had my good friend Mark the electrician, coming out

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Speaker 3: It's some work that we've had on the schedule for

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: He's like, I'll be there Monday. You sure, like you

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Speaker 3: don't have to? Yeah, it's supposed to be sunny and fifty. Well,

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Speaker 3: how's that going out there?

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Speaker 2: It snowed rain on the way over.

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Speaker 3: Snow rain is exactly what it was this morning Inalls.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we had I'm just looking at this like it's

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Speaker 2: this with a start with a seven until a week

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Speaker 2: from this coming Saturday. Yeah, the seventh of May, and

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Speaker 2: it's just rain and cold. Yeah. April, April's tough. April

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Speaker 2: got news for you, not great either, No, no it doesn't. Boots.

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Speaker 2: He had a great line last night. We were sitting

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Speaker 3: Oh I put it all day.

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Speaker 2: I do you have it?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah I do. So he goes, he just out of

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Speaker 3: Sign me up kids old and he goes.

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Speaker 2: He goes, you know, like we go to school for

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Speaker 3: I like one week on one weekend, right, twenty four

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Speaker 2: Great, it feels like a win, man, get that done.

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Speaker 2: We also had a big moment. Beamsy had a big moment.

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Speaker 2: We were used sports all weekend long as typically the

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Speaker 2: and I had already eaten and I said, it was

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Speaker 2: He goes, you know, Dad, I haven't had taco bell

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Speaker 2: and he ordered the Doritos Locos tacos, one of my favors.

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Speaker 2: How do you get things undefeated? So we get home

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Speaker 2: and like Beamsy starts eye in it from afar. He's like, now,

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Speaker 2: I said, let's taco So he's never had it, he'd

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Speaker 3: So we he comes in.

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Speaker 2: I go, you would you like a bite? And he

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Speaker 2: a big bite of the top of the Dorito's taco

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Speaker 3: You're darn right, it is kid, it's real good, man,

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Speaker 3: darn right, quite good, as you said, undefeated.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty good. It's so good. One of the one

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Speaker 3: Hey how did Bootsy do uh make in his cross debut?

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Speaker 2: I got the video proof goal goal in his debut?

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Speaker 2: Gotta win over Chagrin falls four to two, So I

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Speaker 2: We were so they were trying to make him do

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Speaker 2: us parents weren't aware that they were making them do that.

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Speaker 2: So they would get like breakaways and we would be

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, fine, how about how about filling in the

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Speaker 2: So yes, but he did get a gold and they

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Speaker 2: So yeah, all good. Do you have a good weekend

437
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Speaker 2: other than the Cavs losing?

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Speaker 3: Dude? It was uh yeah. I just I hung out,

439
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Speaker 3: like we got some stuff done, but also vegged out,

440
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Speaker 3: had some movie time, had some you know, watch some hoops.

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Speaker 6: You know.

442
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Speaker 3: Friday night, the wife was we were dealing with some

443
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Speaker 3: stuff the in laws upgrade on a security system and

444
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Speaker 3: it's pouring down rain and outside trying to unload. Oh,

445
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Speaker 3: the family bought a you know, we buy a cow. Yeah, yeah,

446
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Speaker 3: and it's all chopped up. Well, it arrived Friday night

447
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Speaker 3: when I'm outside dealing with the alarm people. Yeah, so

448
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 3: I'm now unloading a cow into the freezer.

449
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Speaker 2: It's a lot of beef.

450
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot of beef. So I'm unloading it

451
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Speaker 3: and my wife's like, oh yeah, the freeze are out

452
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Speaker 3: in the garage. Good to go the in laws. I

453
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Speaker 3: open it up. I'm like, there's four turkeys in here,

454
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 3: like these gotta come out. Who needs a turkey?

455
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Speaker 4: Throw?

456
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 3: But throw the bat signal out. I got to clean

457
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Speaker 3: out a freezer. This is gonna take every bit of space.

458
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Speaker 3: I think I got one turkey back in, but three

459
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 3: had to find three. He had to find new homes.

460
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Speaker 3: I'm like, this is new beef.

461
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Speaker 2: It's enough. It's enough with the turkeys. Oh one last

462
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 2: thing NBC has been into, Like I don't know, he said,

463
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Speaker 2: this interesting like nineties movies. So we'd watch like Mission

464
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Speaker 2: Impossible and this stuff and like it. He goes, Okay,

465
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Speaker 2: let's watch Mission Impossible four. And I said, ah, let's

466
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Speaker 2: let's go for something a little more fun maybe, And

467
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Speaker 2: I said, what do you think about? I go, why

468
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Speaker 2: don't we try Oceans eleven? So we pop in Ocean's

469
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Speaker 2: eleven and if my memory served that there wasn't anything

470
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Speaker 2: I had to be worried about him seeing in it

471
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Speaker 2: that it's pretty tame and pretty fun. Uh so it

472
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Speaker 2: holds up tremendously. It's great, it's interesting. Clooney shows up

473
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Speaker 2: and starts talking. He goes, yeah, that's fantastic, mister Fox,

474
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Speaker 2: the voice of the fantastic. Yeah, that's that's one way

475
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Speaker 2: of describing Clooney. We're watching at the end, and my

476
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 2: wife like paratroops in in the last thirty minutes and

477
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Speaker 2: starts asking questions about, now, what's going on here with this.

478
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Speaker 2: I'm like, honey, you've seen this.

479
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Speaker 3: I was gonna say no, She has lots.

480
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Speaker 2: I go, you've seen it, he has not. Let's not

481
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Speaker 2: ruin the end in the back, come on, come on.

482
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 2: So he loved it. So it was good. It was

483
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Speaker 2: and that holds up very good. It's nice to find

484
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Speaker 2: those ones from that era that are still very, very watchable,

485
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 2: and that one absolutely is lots to get to. It

486
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Speaker 2: is Draft week. There's a lot of silly season stuff

487
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Speaker 2: out there. We'll try to separate fact from fiction, but

488
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Speaker 2: that's damn near impossible, to be quite honest with you.

489
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Speaker 2: Draft Week is here. Be sure to catch the Browns

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Speaker 2: of your Cleveland Browns. Uh, it's gonna be chaos, man,

501
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Speaker 2: It's gonna be straight chaos. Leading up to this, there's

502
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Speaker 2: quarterbacks at the top. There are two veteran quarterbacks that

503
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Speaker 2: are still out there. One of the required readings is

504
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Speaker 2: Peter King's Football Morning in America. You referenced this earlier.

505
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Speaker 2: Give a his line about c J. Stroud. There's a

506
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Speaker 2: chance he doesn't go in the top seven. So he

507
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Speaker 2: puts a mock draft together and he has the Titans

508
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Speaker 2: moving up to three to get Stroud in a trade

509
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Speaker 2: with Arizona.

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Speaker 3: Now does he does one mock draft?

511
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Speaker 2: That's it? One always does, yep.

512
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Speaker 3: And then and this is it And this was his

513
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Speaker 3: big bomb.

514
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Speaker 2: So we used to I just wondered, like, what would

515
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Speaker 2: that package look like, that would have that it would

516
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Speaker 2: take to go up there to get that. That's the

517
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Speaker 2: first thing that I thought of. And then the second

518
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Speaker 2: thing I thought of of you know, we did this.

519
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Speaker 2: You know, we're invested a little bit in the high

520
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Speaker 2: state guys. And so I remember in the Justin Fields draft,

521
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Speaker 2: You're like, what's the perfect spot with San Francisco, San Francisco,

522
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Speaker 2: San Francisco, And instead they went Trey Lance. And if

523
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Speaker 2: you were to do that same thing with C. J. Stroud,

524
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Speaker 2: what would be the right place for him? Because it's

525
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Speaker 2: nature versus nurture, right, you can have to have the talent,

526
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Speaker 2: but then you have to be put in the best

527
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Speaker 2: position to succeed. So where is that He would have

528
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Speaker 2: stability in Tennessee with Vrabel because he's not going anywhere, and.

529
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Speaker 3: Clearly the Titans seemed to have moved on from Malik Willis.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't take long. Nope, you know, that didn't

531
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Speaker 2: take long at all.

532
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Speaker 3: But if you know, then the best thing you can

533
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Speaker 3: do is move forward.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So I think Arizona would love to do

535
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Speaker 2: that because Tennessee picks eleven. I think so they would

536
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Speaker 2: go back to eleven and pick up some other stuff.

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Speaker 3: Is that a Are you giving up three first rounders?

538
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Speaker 2: No? I don't think so. I think you're giving up two.

539
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Speaker 2: You're giving up well really one, you're going to swap

540
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Speaker 2: first rounders THISX year. I think you give up next

541
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Speaker 2: year's one. Probably a two this year and maybe a

542
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Speaker 2: two next two twos and a one to move up

543
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Speaker 2: from eleven to three. I think that's about all it

544
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Speaker 2: would take I don't know that there's that many people

545
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Speaker 2: wanting to do it, because they've certainly been trying to

546
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Speaker 2: do it with Houston this whole process. Houston's been trying

547
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Speaker 2: to move up. So to me, it feels like there

548
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Speaker 2: may might not be that much interest to do it.

549
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 2: But we're a long ways out. It's Monday. You know,

550
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Speaker 2: you could see other teams like make a little bit

551
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Speaker 2: of a push here. So who does he have going second?

552
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Speaker 3: Then he has Tyree Wilson, Edge Rusher Texas Tech.

553
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what if they if they're if the

554
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Speaker 2: only if all of this is true and the only

555
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Speaker 2: higher ceiling than what I saw from Levis. But yeah,

556
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Speaker 2: I just can't get past the fact that.

557
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Speaker 3: It is alarming to me that Will Levis had a

558
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Speaker 3: bad Pro Day. You shouldn't choreograph days, Yeah you should.

559
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Speaker 4: You should.

560
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Speaker 3: You should be one hundred out of one.

561
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Speaker 2: Hundred, absolutely, Yeah, no, you should.

562
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Speaker 3: If you're not, if you don't win your pro day,

563
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Speaker 3: I'm alarmed. Yeah, that's where I'm that with pro days.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

565
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Speaker 2: So he's got all of the quarterbacks going in the

566
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Speaker 2: top So where does he have Richardson going to Seattle

567
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Speaker 2: or something?

568
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Speaker 3: All the way down to twenty three.

569
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Speaker 2: Oh oh wow. So then he's got Hendon Hooker as

570
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Speaker 2: the fourth quarterback off the board going twelve to the Texans. Yeah,

571
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Speaker 2: Hooker was hurt in the what do you have an

572
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Speaker 2: achilles or an ACL at the end of the regular

573
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Speaker 2: season with Tennessee.

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Speaker 4: It was an A.

575
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Speaker 2: He was a starter at Virginia Tech and then transferred

576
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Speaker 2: to Tennessee and was really good in Jeff Hype or

577
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Speaker 2: Josh Scheme ACL. Yeah, thanks Bud. So the ACL for

578
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Speaker 2: Hooker late in the season that kind.

579
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Speaker 4: Of cost him.

580
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Speaker 2: He's twenty four. Excuse me, but I don't like that's

581
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Speaker 2: that doesn't bug me at quarterback?

582
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Speaker 3: No, are you No? I'm fine. And that's the guy

583
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Speaker 3: that you think can turn around your franchise and you

584
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Speaker 3: can get him at twelve as opposed to number two.

585
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I have a hard time thinking Richardson goes

586
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Speaker 2: to twenty three. But then, you know, I'm trying to

587
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: remember last year at this time where people thinking Willis

588
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,719
Speaker 2: would be a first round pick. I can't remember if

589
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Speaker 2: they had already soured on him or if it was

590
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Speaker 2: still that he was going.

591
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Speaker 3: To It was good up until like we all, I

592
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 3: think we all thought, no, matter what someone's gonna someone's

593
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 3: gonna take them. Yeah, like all these guys are still

594
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 3: going to go in the first round. Sure, and then

595
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 3: draft day came around and it was like, well maybe.

596
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Speaker 2: Not so much, right, Yeah, No, it didn't happen that way.

597
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: So he only takes one at bat at this we'll

598
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: see how he did. He did mention the Aaron Rodgers thing.

599
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 2: It's forty days, as he notes day in Monday Morning

600
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Speaker 2: Quarterback that Aaron Rodgers said, my intention was to play

601
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Speaker 2: for the Jets. There's no trade trade yet. I won't

602
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,479
Speaker 2: be concerned, King writes until we get to the end

603
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,719
Speaker 2: of day forty four Friday, when two rounds rounds two

604
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Speaker 2: and three, or stage when the Jets have two second

605
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: round picks. It could be used as a potential deal

606
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Speaker 2: for Green Bay. No deal has to be done, and

607
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 2: no deal has to be done, but that's when I

608
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: would be concerned. Yeah. I think if you're the packers,

609
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Speaker 2: you know, it's pretty straightforward, like you want to you

610
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Speaker 2: would want those assets recouped now, Yeah, like you're gonna

611
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Speaker 2: have Aaron Rodgers get picks. So what's that going to

612
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: look like?

613
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Speaker 7: Do we?

614
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Speaker 2: Is it both your twos, which it seems crazy that

615
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Speaker 2: that's it, considering with some of these quarterbacks NET and

616
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Speaker 2: I guess that's just because Rogers has some leverage with them,

617
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Speaker 2: but it's she seems.

618
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Speaker 4: Weird to me.

619
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Speaker 3: There's should be a number one pick thrown.

620
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Speaker 2: I agree.

621
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Speaker 3: I don't understand how and from but from day one

622
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Speaker 3: that's been the case. Everybody's like, hey, it could be

623
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Speaker 3: a conditional one if he plays two years, or maybe

624
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Speaker 3: it's a first, but more than likely it's it's a

625
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Speaker 3: couple twos. And I'm like, this is a guy that's

626
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Speaker 3: still one of the top seven quarterbacks in the National

627
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Speaker 3: Football League, I mean top five.

628
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Speaker 2: He just won the MVP two years ago. Yeah, so, like,

629
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Speaker 2: I know it was bad last No, No, I mean

630
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Speaker 2: it's two years ago he won it, so.

631
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

632
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Speaker 2: I look, the Packers are notoriously a pretty smart organization.

633
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 2: The Ravens pretty smart organization. I just have a hard

634
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Speaker 2: time believing that both of those organizations will go into

635
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Speaker 2: this draft without certainty get quarterback one way or another.

636
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: And there's nothing on Lamar out there at all. Nothing,

637
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 2: But he also doesn't have anybody'll leak it.

638
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, and he had a bad week last week,

639
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 3: frankly with Jalen Hurts contract and the amount of guaranteed money. Yeah, yeah,

640
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 3: I don't that doesn't help his call.

641
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 2: I wouldn't think so. I would think it would be

642
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: a situation where you would maybe you acquiesced a little

643
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: bit to it. But I don't know. But the fact

644
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 2: that those students two things are still sitting there. I'm

645
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: with Peter on the Rogers thing. If we get to

646
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Speaker 2: Friday and nothing's done, it'd be shocked. Same thing on

647
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: Lamar though, like the Ravens are too savvy to do that.

648
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 2: There's just no way. There's no way. So that's that's

649
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: we'll see what.

650
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Speaker 4: I don't know.

651
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't think the Lamar stuff's going

652
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Speaker 3: to get done this weekend or this week. I actually

653
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Speaker 3: might be a little surprised by that.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: The Aaron Rodgers thing, So you think that Baltimore Ravens

656
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Speaker 2: Gibbe are going to draft without knowing who they're quarterback is.

657
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Speaker 3: H Well, in their mind, they have their guy. They

658
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 3: signed him to a transition tag. He hasn't signed it yet.

659
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 4: But yeah, but.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, we'll see. I mean, those things are

661
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Speaker 2: no no, no, I mean they what they did was

662
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 2: incredibly savvy. It maybe alienated him permanently, but it was

663
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Speaker 2: very very sav savvy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I don't know. I see the Lamar

665
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 3: thing dragging out. Yeah, I think the Aaron Rodgers thing

666
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Speaker 3: has to happen here this week if.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see, We'll see how it all go. I'm

668
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: with you. I think you have to have certainty on

669
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Speaker 2: these things, you really do.

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Speaker 3: Did you see who Peter King had going number seventeen?

671
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 3: It's on your sheet there.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, you even bolded it.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I know.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't want that. No, Jackson Smith and Jigbas

675
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Speaker 2: seventeen to Pittsburgh. That would be such a Steelers.

676
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Speaker 3: Pick him on one side, Pickings on the other.

677
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: You know what, I think. I don't think much of

678
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: Pickett in terms of ceiling or what he can be.

679
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 2: But you knew if they do something like that, which

680
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: would be very much in the cards for them. If

681
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 2: they do something like that, this is what you do

682
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 2: know about the Pittsburgh Seelers. They will put him in

683
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: the best possible position to succeed. They will not leave

684
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: him on an island. They will not justin fields him.

685
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: They've already got decent weapons. They got Nausey, who's great,

686
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: and Blitz pick Up. He's great as a dump off

687
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Speaker 2: guy in that he's willing to take hits. He's not

688
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 2: all that productive, but he's willing to take hits. They

689
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 2: already have two great receivers. You had a third one

690
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Speaker 2: with Friarmouth and you've you've given.

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Speaker 4: Him a fighting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they've got that would be a lot of

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Speaker 2: weaponry if they pull all of that off.

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Speaker 3: I don't want looked at that. I did a double take.

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Speaker 3: I swore h for a few minutes, and then what's

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Speaker 3: he doing?

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Speaker 2: It's a beautiful baby blue some shoes that end in

698
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Speaker 2: a you know, that's it. It's all he's doing. King Yeah,

699
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: not letting this weather get to him.

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Speaker 3: Glad someone isn't.

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Speaker 2: I walked into uh we had legitimate groppol yesterday as

702
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Speaker 2: Bootsy was playing, and I walked in. I'm like, well,

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Speaker 2: I'm here, so I'll hit the Hiens and chagrid falls.

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Speaker 2: How different can it be than the Hindens at my

705
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Speaker 2: house in my place. Can't be that much different than

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Speaker 2: the high ends of my town. So I thought, well,

707
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 2: I'll go in there. This thing was like a labyrinth

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Speaker 2: wrapped in a riddle, wrapped in a maze. I could

709
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Speaker 2: not find my way around this place. Asle's going this

710
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 2: way this way like some sort I walk in, there's

711
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: like a square thing that I couldn't get out of with.

712
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 2: It was insane. It was insane, And I don't know

713
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: if I was just fried from the weekend or no sleep,

714
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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I could not figure out the

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Speaker 2: flow grocery. Give me a nice What am I doing?

716
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 2: I'm up and down aisles. It's all I want to do.

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00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: East west you can't mix it. You can't go half

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00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 2: north south, half east west half. I don't even know triangle.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what they rhombus. That thing was brutal,

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Speaker 2: not ideal, not no, not so silly. Season will continue

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Speaker 2: throughout the week. That's where we're at. Kids. We got

722
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Speaker 2: a few days left before the draft. Mike Florio Chris

723
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Speaker 2: Simms debate the Brown's biggest needs heading into Thursday. We'll

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Speaker 2: Z and I debate all the time our biggest needs

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Speaker 2: heading into the draft. Let's let somebody else do it

741
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Speaker 2: for a time. For a change, here's Mike Florio and

742
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Speaker 2: Chris Sims the Browns.

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Speaker 7: Finally we get to what we're supposed to be talking about.

744
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 7: The team needs for the AFC North. Half of the teams,

745
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 7: maybe only one of the teams by the time we're done.

746
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 7: The Browns have made some moves this offseason. They've added

747
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 7: Dalvin Tomlinson defensive tackle want thorn Hill from the Chiefs.

748
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 7: But look, they don't have a ton of cap space,

749
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Speaker 7: not with the Deshaun Watson deal, and they don't have

750
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Speaker 7: many draft picks because of the Deshaun Watson deal.

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Speaker 3: So what more can they do?

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Speaker 7: What more do they need to do to get themselves

753
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Speaker 7: in a position where they can be as competitive as

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00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 7: they need to be now that Deshaun.

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Speaker 3: Watson has the full year to get ready to go.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well they're they're not far off, you know, Like

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00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 6: we discussed a lot, right Mike. I mean their team,

758
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 6: they've got some parts about them where you go, Damn,

759
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 6: there's a lot to like, right, we know the old

760
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 6: line's good. I don't really look offensively to go anything's

761
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 6: like glaring right there right now. I think it's all defense.

762
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Speaker 6: You know, they've they've changed what they're gonna do here.

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Speaker 6: Jim Schwartz is the new decordinator. So there's two spots

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Speaker 6: that jump out to me, Mike, and they're both the

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Speaker 6: events related. One pass rusher, you know, something obvious opposite

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Speaker 6: of a Miles Garrett. I don't know if there's really

767
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 6: a presence there right now that you can really look at.

768
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 6: So that's like one that jumps out to me, and

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Speaker 6: then the other one is linebacker. Right linebacker. You know,

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Speaker 6: they got j Okay Jeremiah Wusu Koramoa. He's a smaller

771
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 6: type of linebacker, right. But after that, you know it's

772
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Speaker 6: it's it's guys that are solid players but nothing special.

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Speaker 6: They got Anthony Walker back on a one year deal, right,

774
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 6: So I think linebackers probably the one I look at

775
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 6: to go. They need something there for sure, but it's

776
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Speaker 6: one of those two positions, Mike, at least for my

777
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 6: for my money, no.

778
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Speaker 7: First round pick or second round pick for the Browns

779
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Speaker 7: this year. Their second round pick recently went to the

780
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Speaker 7: Jets for Elijah Moore and pick number seventy four, So

781
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Speaker 7: they go down thirty two spots and they get Elijah Moore.

782
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 7: So they've addressed needs there and they're retouling the offense.

783
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Speaker 7: There's been some speculation about Nick Chubb's future, and Kevin Stefanski,

784
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 7: head coach of the team, has said that Chubb continues

785
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Speaker 7: to be an important part of the offense. But if

786
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Speaker 7: you're gonna get the most out of the Shaun Watson,

787
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Speaker 7: it's not run round, run round, run offense. They need

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Speaker 7: guys that can catch the ball, and they have Amari Cooper,

789
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Speaker 7: but now they've added Elijah Moore, they need weapons around

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00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 7: Watson and maybe maybe this is the team that you know,

791
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 7: looks late round for some help, whether it's tight end

792
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 7: who can catch passes, whether it's receiver, and also you

793
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 7: need guys who can block.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you've already made the investment into Sean Watson.

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Speaker 7: He puts a priority on everything around him to get

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Speaker 7: the most out of that player, the two hundred and

797
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Speaker 7: thirty million and everything he gave up to get him.

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Speaker 2: No, you're you're right. It's hey, listen, a lot of

799
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Speaker 2: what they do is gonna be on him for sure.

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Speaker 4: Right.

801
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Speaker 6: I still think Nick Chubb and that old line are

802
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 6: still they can be a big time focal point. But yeah,

803
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 6: the past game is gonna be you know, they're gonna

804
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 6: rely on that more because of all the things you said.

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Speaker 3: And you look at it and you go, damn, there's

806
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 3: some things alike there, you know.

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Speaker 6: And when you talk about Elijah Moore, Donovan people Jones,

808
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 6: who's a big, you know, strong receiver, he's good. Amari

809
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 6: Cooper still can run routes with the best of them,

810
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Speaker 6: you know, a speed guy, and Anthony Schwartz David Joku

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Speaker 6: right a tight end. The old line I think we

812
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Speaker 6: would both agree is top five ish at least definite

813
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Speaker 6: top tennish in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. Its top five ish really

815
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Speaker 2: is the question.

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Speaker 6: So you know that's where Yeah, maybe maybe something to

817
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 6: sweeten the pot a little bit, but I feel like

818
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 6: it's got to be defense ultimately as far as the

819
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Speaker 6: draft is concerned, just because it's a different scheme and

820
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Speaker 6: it's a different thought there. Like you talked about before

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Speaker 6: they had Joe Woods, who was a little more Seattle scheme,

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Speaker 6: and we want smaller, fast guys. And now this is

823
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Speaker 6: Jim Schwartz. Where where did he grow up? Oh, Bill

824
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Speaker 6: Belichick and that school of thinking, Well, that's gonna be

825
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 6: bigger people. So I got to think that transition has

826
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Speaker 6: to happen here a little bit through the draft.

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Speaker 2: Well, the thing is, and that you know, some of

828
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Speaker 2: that has happened already with some of the stuff that's

829
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Speaker 2: happened in free agency, and I think we'd like to

830
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Speaker 2: attack some of that stuff in the draft when you

831
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Speaker 2: talk about it, certainly upfront, and I do think, I

832
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Speaker 2: mean I don't want to some of what you're talking

833
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Speaker 2: about at the top. It speaks to more just the

834
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Speaker 2: randomness of picking seventy three. Then there are needs, Like

835
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Speaker 2: we could have a fifty three that would go and

836
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Speaker 2: you'd feel comfortable with it, you'd feel like a playoff team.

837
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 2: But there certainly our needs and they are up front.

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00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 2: I mean, it would be really nice to get a

839
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: player who can make an impact, specifically a defensive tackle

840
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: with the with the perryon stuff or defensive end. Like

841
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 2: an impact player at either spot at seventy three would

842
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 2: be a home run. And to me, that feels like

843
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: the straightest path for what they would do.

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Speaker 3: If one of your two picks in the third round

845
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Speaker 3: was like an MJ Emerson from a year ago, Yeah,

846
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 3: that is a contributor and an impact player for you

847
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: on the defensive line, you'd sign up for that all

848
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Speaker 3: day long.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's that's really where you are with this thing.

850
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Speaker 2: But it's going to be a long wait, you know,

851
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 2: it's a long wait. What like what time is that pick?

852
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 2: Is that ten thirty?

853
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 3: It's probably I would say it's after ten o'clock, and

854
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Speaker 3: then like your other.

855
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: Worst round will last and tell what first round will

856
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 2: go to I'm sorry. The second round starts at seven

857
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 2: on Friday?

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Speaker 3: Is that right?

859
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 2: So that'll last till about nine.

860
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Speaker 3: I think it's like, is it eight minutes per pick?

861
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,479
Speaker 2: I can't remember if it's eight or is at five?

862
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 3: I think it might be. It might go down to

863
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 3: five on Friday night.

864
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Speaker 2: It's okay through the second round or into the third.

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Speaker 3: I think I think it's both. I believe that's the

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Speaker 3: case because eight minutes is for the first round.

867
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: Remember it used to be fifteen in the old day.

868
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 2: Teams have all right, so it's ten minutes to make

869
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 2: their choice in the first round, seven minutes in the second,

870
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 2: five in the third, so we start speeding it up. Yeah,

871
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: and then fourth four minutes in the seventh round. And

872
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 2: it's never that long.

873
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 3: No, like the cards are you get to the point

874
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 3: by Saturday. There's just no twelve picks in advance when

875
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 3: what your team's do.

876
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: It is pretty interesting how the NFL and their broadcast partners,

877
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 2: I mean themselves, the NFL network and then ESPN. It's

878
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: really interesting to me how they have how they make

879
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 2: the television choices they make because they have treated now

880
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 2: the second round like the first, so you have this

881
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 2: big breakdown of every player in the second round, like

882
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 2: that never used to be the case. Right when it

883
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 2: was all on one day, it was like the first

884
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 2: round was done and then the second round was just

885
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 2: rapid fire, and they weren't. Now they treat the second

886
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 2: round like the first and it's really, to your point,

887
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: it's really not until Saturday that you get this rapid

888
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 2: pick where you're not going over every single guy who's picked.

889
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is good because at that point you're just

890
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 3: let's get let's get through it and let's get to

891
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 3: the draft, and let's get to rookie onto onto, rookie

892
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 3: Mini camp and a couple of weeks later a schedule release,

893
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 3: because that will be here two weeks after the draft.

894
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 4: Is that what that is? Usually?

895
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 3: Mid May?

896
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, middle of May. Yeah, you get that schedule.

897
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 3: Right around right around that second week, maybe the third week,

898
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 3: but yeah, that'll be uh, that'll be SAR release time.

899
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 2: I'll me I mean jumping ahead to that. It'll be

900
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 2: fascinating to see how the league and the television partners

901
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 2: view us, because when we get kick times then too,

902
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, because we already know who we play, so

903
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 2: you'll get the actual schedule and you'll get the kick

904
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: times and you'll get all of that stuff sorted out.

905
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see how we're judged there.

906
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 3: We will get into this as the week goes on.

907
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 3: But knowing that the great city of Kansas City, yeah

908
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 3: they it should be an unbelievable week in Casey. I

909
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: don't know what the weather looks like. I was just

910
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 3: gonna look, but that's that town knows how to throw

911
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 3: a party. And I got a feeling that it's I

912
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 3: know exactly where the drafts happening at Union Station, the

913
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 3: light district that normally, like when it's nice out goes

914
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 3: till like three or four in the morning. Yeah, I mean,

915
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 3: it's already a party downtown.

916
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 2: So they got sixty eight on Thursday for the high

917
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 2: so it'll be fine. Perfect. Friday is sixty and and

918
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 2: fifty eight for the high on Saturday, so it gets

919
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 2: cooler as the weeknd goes along, but for that first

920
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 2: round on Thursday, it should be pretty nice.

921
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: Oh my god, down there and everything's downtown. All your hotels,

922
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 3: I mean the only thing not downtown at the stage

923
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 3: your football stadium, which is thirty minutes outside.

924
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

925
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, it'll be good. I it's interesting though

926
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 2: too because they don't you know, like they're picking last correct,

927
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 2: so you're just gonna wait around forever to get their picks.

928
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the Jonas Brothers are going to be there.

929
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 3: That's the new enterg tonight. Oh yeah, the Jonas Brothers

930
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 3: are performing Thursday night ESPN.

931
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 2: Nothing says Drafted Brothers like it's I.

932
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 3: Don't even know, Like it's gonna be just a it's

933
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 3: gonna be a giant bash. It gonna be a big,

934
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 3: old fat party. Sure, a lot of barbecue.

935
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: It is amazing. It amazed me here a couple of

936
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: years ago and we did it. It was amazing. It's

937
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: amazing how many people get excited to watch human beings

938
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: go shake in other human being's hand and that's you're

939
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:56,959
Speaker 2: not watching a game.

940
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, talked about it this morning as crazy. It was

941
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 3: just it was like I think it was eight years ago, yeah,

942
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 3: that the draft was in Chicago and he's like, it's

943
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 3: never gonna work. Yeah, Peter King's like I wrote, it's

944
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 3: never gonna work. Yeah, who's going to go watch this?

945
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 4: Yep?

946
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 3: Like it's made for New York City? Yeah, leave it

947
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 3: in New York oh yeah, stop messing with it. And

948
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 3: now I mean people bit on it like they've bid

949
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 3: for Super Bowls.

950
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 2: It's wild, It's absolutely wild. It's the power of the league.

951
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: Speaking of a little league. You will be joined by

952
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: one of the men who worked for the league, the

953
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: great Nick Shock, will join Gibbe here momentarily. We will

954
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 2: have Greg Newsom from the podium in the second hour

955
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: of the program. In addition to that, Gibbey's interview with

956
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 2: CBS Draft analyst Ryan Wilson of that to look forward to,

957
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 2: which is very very nice. He listened to Cleveland Browns

958
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 2: Daily brought to you by Bally Bet coming soon to

959
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 2: Hio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

960
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,479
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally Bet, coming

961
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland, And.

962
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 3: We welcome you back into the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

963
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 3: here Inbury. I'm Jason Gibbs, our two of Cleveland Brown's

964
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 3: Daily Rolls along on a Monday, A draft Monday Draft

965
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 3: Week is finally here. You'll hear from CBS Sports NFL

966
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 3: Draft analyst Ryan Wilson coming out bottom of the hour,

967
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 3: Greg Knewso At about fifteen minutes from now, Brown's defensive back.

968
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 3: Right now to the Twisted Tea Hotline we go, brought

969
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 3: to you by Twisted Tea, hardiced tea, official sponsor of

970
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns, Keeping it twisted. Our good friend from

971
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 3: the NFL Network at NFL dot Com, the one and

972
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 3: only Nick Shook, joins us on the Twisted Tea Hotline.

973
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 3: Happy Draft week, my friend, and given the weekend that

974
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 3: was in Cleveland sports onward and for word with the draft, That's.

975
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 5: One way to describe it. I'll play it. Everybody in

976
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 5: Cleveland's played a by ready to move on.

977
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 3: The rough one they had, and awful, awful, awful awful

978
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 3: if is there, if the Cleveland Cavaliers can turn it

979
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 3: around and win this series, they must have what happened,

980
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 3: Nick Schook.

981
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 5: They must pull a rabbit out of their hat. I

982
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 5: think based on what I mean, basically, it comes down

983
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 5: to this. Okay, if you're a cav fan, you take

984
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 5: it one game at a time. From here, you say, well,

985
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 5: look in the third quarter yesterday they showed what worked.

986
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 5: And it wasn't until haven't Mobily gotten foul trouble that

987
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 5: they you know, got into a situation where they couldn't

988
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 5: run their offense as they intended, and Darius Garland couldn't

989
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 5: penetrate off the dribble anymore, and things kind of the

990
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 5: run kind of fell apart. I don't think it was

991
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 5: an energy thing. I think it was a personnel thing.

992
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 5: But the problem is is now you have to take

993
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 5: it one game at a time. You see, you come

994
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 5: back home, you defend home court. Nobody's eliminating us at home,

995
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 5: and if you win game five, then you just say, well,

996
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 5: we'll see what happens in game six. The biggest problem though,

997
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 5: and the reason I say the rapit out of the hat, Gibbs,

998
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 5: they don't have Lebron James on the roster the last

999
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 5: time they were down three to one and came back

1000
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 5: in a series. They haven't have that guy in a

1001
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 5: bunch of veterans experience that can lead them back to victory.

1002
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 5: And I just don't feel too confident. As much as

1003
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 5: it pains me as a CALVS fan to say I

1004
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 5: think that we're nearing the.

1005
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,959
Speaker 3: End of this run, I would agree with you, my friend. Unfortunately,

1006
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 3: it was such a struggle to see that team who

1007
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 3: has performed so well all season long, in the last

1008
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 3: forty eight hours, just crumble. I don't recall seeing something

1009
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 3: like that in a while.

1010
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 5: What it is is it's a flawed roster that lacks

1011
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 5: outside shooting, that lacks the ability to space the floor

1012
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 5: against the team that's going to bully you, that's going

1013
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 5: to try to win with physicality. And this is what

1014
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 5: Toronto did in the Caves too, same thing as is

1015
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 5: what the Knicks are doing. They're pushing them around, and

1016
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 5: the calves aren't necessarily tough enough to deal with that.

1017
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 5: And the finetse elements only work when Garland gets involved,

1018
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 5: and he didn't get involved at Madison Square Garden until

1019
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 5: the second half yesterday. And you're not gonna win games

1020
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 5: if that doesn't happen. So not to mention the fact

1021
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 5: that Donovan Mitchell put on a stinker of a performance.

1022
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 5: Eleven points is not going to get the job done

1023
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 5: when you're the team star. I think that they need

1024
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 5: to go into the offseason and address their needs, get

1025
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 5: an enforcer as a backup center, and run it back

1026
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 5: again next year.

1027
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 3: Well, the Browns are going to address their needs on

1028
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 3: Friday night late, probably ten thirty eleven o'clock before we

1029
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 3: make a pick. As of now Monday at two eight pm,

1030
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 3: but Nick shook the Browns. They don't pick till seventy four.

1031
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 3: A lot gonna happen before they draft, and it starts

1032
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 3: Thursday night at eight o'clock, continues Friday night rounds two

1033
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 3: and three at seven, and then at noon on Saturday

1034
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 3: with the remainder of the draft. It is draft week.

1035
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 3: There are lots of storylines, but it's also silly season.

1036
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 3: What are you thinking here as we get into draft

1037
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 3: week and this draft seems to be a little different

1038
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 3: than in years past.

1039
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 5: Well, you know, the momentum in the last few days

1040
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 5: has really shifted. And it starts with pick number two.

1041
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 5: I think at this point it sounds like the Panthers

1042
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 5: are pretty set on Bryce Young. Do I agree with

1043
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 5: that necessarily? I don't know. We'll see, but you know,

1044
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 5: it sounded like, at least in terms of team need

1045
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 5: and where they were drafting, Panthers go quarterback at one,

1046
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 5: Texans go quarterback at two. Then the rest of the

1047
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 5: draft unfolds. Well not so fast, my friend, in the

1048
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 5: words of lead course though, because now it sounds like

1049
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 5: the Texans might not want to take a quarterback, and

1050
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 5: quite frankly, nobody has an idea of what the Texans

1051
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 5: are going to do at number two. And I think

1052
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 5: that's really the pivot point. That's where the whole draft

1053
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 5: starts to really unfold. And it's a level of uncertainty

1054
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,479
Speaker 5: at the spot that we haven't seen in some time.

1055
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 5: I mean, I think back even to recent draft. You know,

1056
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence was the sure fire number one. A couple

1057
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 5: of years ago. Jack Wilson was pretty much number two.

1058
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 5: We knew that was in the bag. Big question, you

1059
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 5: know in that draft was was Mac Jones going to

1060
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 5: be number three? And ended up being Trey Lance And

1061
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,439
Speaker 5: we all bought into that smoke screen for a couple

1062
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 5: of weeks prior. I think that there's actually fire behind

1063
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 5: this smoking Houston. And the reason is Nick Canterio's track

1064
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 5: record has has not you know, we don't have a

1065
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 5: long history with him in Houston, and we especially don't

1066
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 5: have a long history with him because he's now on

1067
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 5: his third head coach and and you know, this new pairing,

1068
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 5: there's no background to rely on, well, this is what

1069
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 5: they did in the past. It's a new first time

1070
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 5: head coach, it's a it's a guy that's beloved in

1071
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 5: Houston as a former linebacker in Tamiko Ryans who's now

1072
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 5: running the team defensive guy. And you wonder maybe they

1073
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 5: spend that on a guy like Will Anderson out of

1074
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 5: Alabama or or somebody else and address a different position

1075
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 5: of need. It could be a Tyree Wilson of Texas Tech.

1076
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 5: That the projections really span the spectrum, I think with

1077
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 5: what they do at number two if they don't go quarterback.

1078
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 5: And the other thing too though, And this is why

1079
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 5: I have a hard time necessarily thinking it's the right

1080
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,959
Speaker 5: decision to not go quarterback unless they just don't feel

1081
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 5: so highly on on CJ. Strave some other people do.

1082
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,720
Speaker 5: Is Look, we know how important quarterback is, right gives.

1083
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 5: I mean, it's the most important position in sports, not

1084
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 5: just in football, but in sports. If you don't have

1085
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 5: a guy at quarterback, you don't have a legitimate chance

1086
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 5: to win football games. You're stealing is lower. You can

1087
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 5: hope that if everything else goes right, you might get

1088
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 5: in the playoffs, and that's about it. The days of

1089
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 5: Trent Dilfer playing playing quarterback in an offense on a

1090
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 5: team that you know is supported by a legendary defense,

1091
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,760
Speaker 5: The days of those types of guys playing. It just doesn't.

1092
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 5: It doesn't happen anymore. It's too much of a passing league.

1093
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 5: So if you don't have a quarterback on your roster

1094
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 5: and you have an opportunity to take a guy, why

1095
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 5: wouldn't you do it unless you're not very confident in

1096
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 5: the remaining guys available, which at point, at that point

1097
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 5: you go in a different direction, which really would shake

1098
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 5: things up, because then you can get guys, You get

1099
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 5: teams moving up because you know, let's say Houston goes

1100
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,439
Speaker 5: as a rusher, then all of a sudden, pick number

1101
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 5: three is the most coveted pick in the draft, and

1102
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 5: teams that might want quarterbacks to the future or plug

1103
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 5: and play starters. Right now, we're gonna be on the

1104
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 5: phone calling Mani ausin Ford out in Arizona, the new

1105
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 5: GM and saying, hey, what do you want for three?

1106
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 5: We want to move up there. We like Stroud, we

1107
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 5: want to take And there's also the other wild card

1108
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 5: of what if people think about Anthony Richardson. The projection

1109
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 5: on him is all over the place. You've seen him

1110
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 5: as being maybe the fourth overall pick in Indianapolis, as

1111
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 5: low as the twentieth pick to Seattle. It's all over

1112
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 5: the place. So it's exciting because, like talking about this,

1113
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 5: I'm getting excited about the uncertainty of it. It's been

1114
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 5: a grind to get to this point, I think, but

1115
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 5: this is where the payoff really happens. And I think

1116
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 5: we might be in line for some serious fireworks on

1117
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 5: Thursday night.

1118
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 3: Well from your mouth to God's ears, because I feel

1119
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 3: like there hasn't been a whole lot other than what's

1120
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 3: gone on in the past week involving CJ. Stroud, a

1121
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 3: guy that a month ago, as Peter King said it

1122
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 3: in his piece, was the number one pick going to Carolina.

1123
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 3: We saw the Pro day, we saw Josh McCown browing

1124
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 3: it up with him after his Pro day workout, Like

1125
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 3: we all thought, CJ. Stroud to Carolina, no brainer. Now

1126
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 3: now it's Bryce Young and now where's CJ. Stroud gonna fall?

1127
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 3: Like Peter King this morning talking about he might not

1128
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 3: go on the top seven picks, I don't think that'll

1129
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 3: be the case. Someone will come up and grab him.

1130
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 4: But what like it is.

1131
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 3: Truly silly season. And as bo Bishop, the our one

1132
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 3: co host here on Cleveland Browns Daily, just said, who

1133
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 3: is Who's dropping all this stuff about Stroud. Are they

1134
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 3: trying to get him to fall back? Are they trying

1135
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 3: to decrease the value enough so that another team can

1136
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 3: come up and go get him. What is going on

1137
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 3: with CJ. Stroud?

1138
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 5: That's a great question because, like you said a month ago,

1139
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 5: it was the only big question mark we're had number

1140
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 5: two and it was well, you know, is what he

1141
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 5: did against Georgia and the Peach Bowl? Is that who

1142
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 5: he is?

1143
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 6: Or was he just?

1144
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 5: Is he just really good in bowl games? Because he

1145
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 5: had a great showing yeainst Utah and the Rose Bowl

1146
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 5: to your friar, but he couldn't beat Michigan. He couldn't

1147
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 5: win those big games. So you know, is it which

1148
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 5: guy is he? And then he had a great pre

1149
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 5: draft process. He just he tore it up in Indianapolis

1150
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 5: at the Combine. He had a good pro Day where

1151
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 5: it's hard to not have a good performance at a

1152
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 5: prote because everything structured to make you look good. Everything

1153
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 5: seemed to be trending in the right direction. I've been

1154
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:18,280
Speaker 5: in the CJ. Stroud campes my QB one in this class.

1155
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 5: Not to take anything away from Bryce Young, but I

1156
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 5: think in terms of build and the skills that translate

1157
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 5: immediately in the in the NFL. Accuracy is one of them,

1158
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 5: and I think he's certainly got He's checked that box.

1159
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 5: And my only other question with him really was, you know,

1160
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 5: is ever gonna use his legs more to extend the

1161
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 5: play and really take advantage of that his athleticism. And

1162
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 5: he even spoke about that in Indy. So what has happened?

1163
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 5: You're right? Bo is absolutely right? Who's putting this out there? Now?

1164
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 5: I'm never gonna be able to be the one who's

1165
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 5: following the money to find the source of these things

1166
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 5: because it's just too crazy this time of the year.

1167
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 5: But there are some teams that you know, in that

1168
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 5: top seven that could be needing a quarterback. Now, the

1169
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 5: Seahawks did just extend Geno Smith, but if they wanted

1170
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 5: a project player or somebody like that, maybe look for

1171
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 5: somebody else. I don't think that's the Stroud thing. It

1172
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 5: is a fit for them, But I see Indianapolis that's

1173
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 5: a team that needs a quarterback. They have bumbled through

1174
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 5: the position in the last few years. Philip Rivers was

1175
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 5: the only bridge guy that works. Carson Wentz was a disaster,

1176
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 5: Matt Ryan even more of a disaster. They've got to

1177
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 5: be out of patience. They got to figure out who

1178
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 5: it's gonna be their quarterback in the future after trying

1179
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 5: to figure out their way through the last half decade

1180
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 5: without Andrew Luck. That's a team that I think that

1181
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 5: makes a ton of sense. The Raiders could be in play. Okay,

1182
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 5: this is a team that hosted Bryce Young for a visit.

1183
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 5: This is a team that has Jimmy Garoppolo on the roster.

1184
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 5: But he's not a spring chicken exactly. He's not super old,

1185
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 5: but he's not gonna be there for fifteen years. So

1186
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 5: maybe that's a fit. Maybe they move up. They've been

1187
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 5: kind of active when it comes to the top thirty

1188
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 5: visits and taking a closer look at some of these

1189
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 5: quarterbacks when they know previously weren't necessarily in range to

1190
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 5: take one of those top two guys. Maybe they move

1191
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 5: up to three. I'm not sure, but I think that

1192
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 5: there are some teams that could have their eye on him,

1193
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 5: and if he is falling, they got to be licking

1194
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 5: their childs a little bit and figuring out, Okay, how

1195
00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 5: can we move up and get him. This is a

1196
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 5: scenario we didn't anticipate. Prior, and I still go back

1197
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 5: to Houston think, well, what are you going to do

1198
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 5: a quarterback? If you don't draft exactly, you can go

1199
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 5: back with Davis Mills again, like okay, all right, I

1200
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 5: guess that's fine. If you're not in love with the guy,

1201
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 5: don't spend the pick on him. But that makes it

1202
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 5: really hard to believe. But I do think there is

1203
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 5: some fire behind the smoke, because it's just been a

1204
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 5: little too loud and a little too sudden for me

1205
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 5: to think otherwise.

1206
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 3: Talking with Nick Schuk from the NFL Network in NFL

1207
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 3: dot com, from a Brown's perspective, as I mentioned, not

1208
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 3: picking till number seventy four, two biggest needs one. Give

1209
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 3: me one from each side of the football that you

1210
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 3: feel like this team needs to address here on Thursday

1211
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 3: for well, Friday or Saturday for all intents purposes.

1212
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 5: Right because Thursday they're gonna be a non partisan to

1213
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 5: get comfy, go do something else on Thursday and go

1214
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 5: see a movie because it's not fine.

1215
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 3: We have a draft show from eight to midnight, shook

1216
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 3: oh half.

1217
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 5: Fun fill of those hours well, and as the Cardinals

1218
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 5: make their pick, we're gonna look ahead, dude, tomorrow when

1219
00:58:58,160 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 5: the Browns pick, you know what you can talk about.

1220
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 5: You can say you have a second round pick. You

1221
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 5: traded a second round pick to get a second round

1222
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 5: pick of a couple of years ago and got a

1223
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 5: third back. His name's Elijah More. You can rave about

1224
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 5: him for an hour if you need to. But when

1225
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 5: it comes to needs, I'm still thinking they're front seven

1226
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 5: needs something, and you know they've stood padded edge rusher.

1227
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 5: You know, Obo might be the guy I guessed for

1228
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 5: them off the edge. I felt like they still needed

1229
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 5: to make another addition, and maybe they do later in

1230
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 5: this draft. You know when they come, when he comes

1231
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 5: time for them to pick. I mean they scored last time.

1232
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 5: You know, last year with the pick they spent on

1233
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 5: MG Anderson, he's been a very solid player. It's been

1234
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 5: a great move. So maybe you know the advanced scouting,

1235
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 5: you know, you don't have a first round pick, you

1236
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 5: get to dig a little bit deeper into the class

1237
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 5: and find some value at that spot. But I think

1238
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 5: it's got to be front seven. I've for years thought

1239
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 5: they've been too thin at linebacker to the point where

1240
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 5: they're going out and getting Dion Jones last year and

1241
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 5: they're getting Reddie Raglan off the scrap heap and throwing

1242
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 5: them in there because they lacked depth, they lacked playmakers.

1243
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 5: But again, they're kind of in a similar position at

1244
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 5: the spot again, so maybe that's just the philosophy of

1245
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 5: the front office at this point. I think that you

1246
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 5: could use some more death in that front seven, though,

1247
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 5: you know, the interior they've added a few guys. They

1248
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 5: look a lot better in that spot than they did prior.

1249
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 5: But I think you can never have too many bodies there,

1250
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,919
Speaker 5: and especially if you're gonna rotated edge rusher opposite Miles Garret,

1251
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 5: I think you could go there as well. So it's

1252
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 5: the front seven, and specifically, if they're not gonna go linebacker,

1253
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 5: you go front four because this isn't the best linebacker

1254
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 5: draft anyway, So you go front four because there is

1255
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 5: some value in this class. And then offensively, you know

1256
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 5: they've done a decent job at receiver. You know that

1257
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 5: was probably gonna be the spot that everybody focused on

1258
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 5: prior was, Hey they need another weapon at receiver. Will

1259
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 5: they go get Elijah More, they get Marquise Goodwin, and

1260
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 5: then maybe you go get another slot guy to develop.

1261
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 5: You did that last year with David Bell, but you

1262
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 5: kind of know who he is. He's a little physically limited.

1263
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 5: Anthony Schwartz is gonna be fighting for a roster spot,

1264
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 5: so there's a lot of value in this class. I

1265
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 5: think I think he gets a round three and four,

1266
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 5: you know. I mean, I don't know if tanked else,

1267
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 5: they're gonna be there. But that's been my guy for

1268
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 5: a long time out of Easton. He's one of my

1269
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 5: favorite guys with the combine. But there are other players

1270
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 5: who provided there's not a huge run on receivers, you

1271
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 5: could add it with us a round three or round

1272
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 5: four pick and you know, kind of works in into

1273
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 5: the system as well. Otherwise, I mean, you look offensively,

1274
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 5: you got your quarterback, you got your running backs. You're

1275
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 5: you're gonna be asking more of the young guys. You

1276
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 5: have a running back to room for it being one

1277
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 5: of them after the Kareem Hunt thing has you know

1278
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 5: the hard ways and there's no mending offenses there. And

1279
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 5: I think you're okay at tight end as well, so uh,

1280
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 5: offensive line, you've been solid for a while. I don't

1281
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 5: think you're gonna get any better at the position with

1282
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 5: a draft pick, So I think it goes back to

1283
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 5: receiver and you and you look at you know some

1284
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 5: of these because there's a ton of slot guys in

1285
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 5: this draft. I mean a ton of undersized receivers. I've

1286
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 5: never seen this many undersized. I guess it's kind of

1287
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 5: a derogatory way of describing them. But they're under six

1288
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 5: feet tall. They're smaller guys. They're made to play in

1289
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 5: the slot. Some of the top guys in this group

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Speaker 5: are not gonna be there, the Josh Downs types, they're

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Speaker 5: gonna be gone. There's a Flowers, They're gonna be gone.

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Speaker 5: But you're gonna get the opportunity to select somebody else.

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Speaker 5: And you know, if you really want to do it,

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Speaker 5: go back on the defensive side real quick, just because

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Speaker 5: I like the death of this class this position. I

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Speaker 5: know you're strong at corner right now. You got Newsome,

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Speaker 5: you got Ward, you got Emerson. But I also think

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Speaker 5: you can't have too many quality into backs. And if

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Speaker 5: you can snag one of those, and you know, day

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Speaker 5: two wouldn't be a bad movie either. I think there's

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Speaker 5: some serious depth and value in this group.

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Speaker 3: Nick Schure dropping a lot of knowledge here on Cleveland

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Speaker 3: Brown's Daily. All right, real quick, final final question, it's

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Speaker 3: like a two parter. But does the Aaron Rodgers deal

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01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 3: get done by the end of the draft. It's been

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Speaker 3: forty days since he announced he his intention to play

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Speaker 3: for the Jets. By the way, you know what.

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Speaker 5: Forty days is gets. I don't know how much of

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Speaker 5: a biblical scholar you are, but that's a biblical number.

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Speaker 5: That's you know, Jesus spent forty days and nights in

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Speaker 5: the desert, you know, during his dis fasting period.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, day deepcome Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, private school background. I had to do

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Speaker 5: some Bible study back in the day. Right, that is

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Speaker 5: about the point where we should be feeling with Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 5: I feel like we were also out in the desert

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Speaker 5: for the last forty days and forty nights, because look, man,

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Speaker 5: I'm ready to move on. We're all ready to move on.

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Speaker 5: We just want an answer, We want a solution, and

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Speaker 5: I think it happens before the end of the draft

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Speaker 5: because they're not going to get the first round pick

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Speaker 5: from the Jets. They're not because you don't know if

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Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers is gonna play more than one year, but

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Speaker 5: you might get a second round pick. And what do

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Speaker 5: the Jets have they got two of them, So I

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Speaker 5: think that the deal gets done somewhere within day two.

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Speaker 5: Maybe they sit back and spend their higher two and

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Speaker 5: then send the later two to the Packers. I think

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Speaker 5: we're close. I think this is the week it finally

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Speaker 5: ends and we can finally move on and also ignore

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01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 5: the rumblings that he could maybe go to another team,

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Speaker 5: which I think is a little extreme. So it gets

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Speaker 5: done before the draft. There's your answer.

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Speaker 3: What about Lamar Jackson?

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Speaker 5: M That I don't feel is confident in. I would

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Speaker 5: not be surprised to see the Ravens spend a later

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Speaker 5: pick on a quarterback and hedge their bet. Not a

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Speaker 5: starting caliber quarterback, not one of the guys in the

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Speaker 5: first round, unless you get a massive blockbuster type deal

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Speaker 5: where somebody signs into an offer sheet and then sends

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Speaker 5: the Ravens two first round picks and they have the

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Speaker 5: capital to move up. But that would have to happen

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Speaker 5: like today, tomorrow, Wednesday. I don't think that all happens

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Speaker 5: during the first round of the draft. So I think

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Speaker 5: what happens is this continues to drag out. We don't

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Speaker 5: make a ton of progress. The Ravens heads their best

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Speaker 5: and go get a quarterback to you know, park behind

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Speaker 5: you know, at the third string spot and maybe potentially

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Speaker 5: developing the events that they don't have Lamar and you know,

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Speaker 5: they get their good old Lamar light playing quarterback this

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Speaker 5: year instead, and they have somebody else behind them while

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Speaker 5: they wait to see what Lamar does. I think that's

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Speaker 5: probably more likely is they go later round, find a

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Speaker 5: guy to develop, spend a later pick on. They don't

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Speaker 5: have a lot of picks to work, but think they

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Speaker 5: have five, which is unusual for the Ravens, and that's

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Speaker 5: probably the most likely scenario. I just don't see this

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Speaker 5: thing resolved because there's just been no movement. It's the

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Speaker 5: gap between them in terms of communication. It's just, you know,

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Speaker 5: this is a situation which I you know, I'm not

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Speaker 5: wanting to pa the table for agents necessarily, but look,

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Speaker 5: if he had an agent, I feel like.

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Speaker 3: We probably have this might be done by and I

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Speaker 3: think it would be.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's getting gonna get any closer until

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Speaker 5: we hit an Ay, maybe it gets a little bit

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Speaker 5: closer by that. I don't think he's gonna show up

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01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 5: Oughta's mini camp, none of that stuff. It's gonna drag

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Speaker 5: on for a little.

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Speaker 3: Bit, Nick Chuck, appreciate the time. As always. Will you

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Speaker 3: be in Kansas City or will you be in the

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Speaker 3: Great cl E this weekend.

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Speaker 5: I will be in the Great cl my friend. We

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Speaker 5: will be doing it remotely, because quite frankly, there's not

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01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 5: the most value from being at the draft. It is

1376
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 5: a very much a made for TV event, and and

1377
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Speaker 5: most of what you'll glean and most of what my job,

1378
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 5: responsibilities and duties entail, will be done from here. So

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Speaker 5: I'll be surrounded by the Browns fans who are getting

1380
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Speaker 5: tired waiting until day two, round three making their first pick.

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Speaker 3: Well, there you go, uh you Maybe maybe we'll call

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01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 3: you in heavy on Thursday night too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, still some time, you know. Hey, you gotta finally

1384
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 5: way to Bill sometime, right.

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Speaker 3: I'm honored every time you come on with us. You

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01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 3: still take my phone calls, So I got that going

1387
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Speaker 3: for me, which is nice. Nick Chuck, appreciate the time,

1388
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Speaker 3: my friend, you still take.

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Speaker 5: My phone calls. What are you talking about? Thanksgiving? Thanks man?

1390
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 5: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: You got a buddy. We'll talk soon. Good luck this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Nick Chuck from NFL dot Com and the NFL Network

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01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 3: up next, more from your Cleveland Browns and last week's

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Speaker 3: media availability. It's Greg Newsome talking to the media. That's

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Speaker 3: good care of you. In case you missed it from

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Speaker 3: last week at the Podium Brown's Corner, Greg knews the

1407
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Speaker 3: second have a listen.

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Speaker 4: When you saw the.

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Speaker 8: Trade request stuff and you just femily united would have

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01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 8: went through your mind when.

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Speaker 5: You saw it.

1412
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 4: I was mad.

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Speaker 9: I really just don't think people really, like truly understand

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01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 9: how much, first of all, Cleveland means to me, Like

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Speaker 9: getting drafted here, the fans embracing me right away, you know,

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Speaker 9: just things like that.

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Speaker 4: So I really just don't understand, you know, something like that.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't do that. I like truly adore Cleveland. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: I was. I was definitely mad.

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Speaker 2: Why did you change agent stuff?

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Speaker 9: That's the personal reason I didn't trade agents to try

1422
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 9: to out of here that I traded agents because I think,

1423
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 9: you know, for my career it helped me in the

1424
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 9: long run.

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Speaker 4: So I traded agents just for personal reasons.

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Speaker 3: Think Greg, A lot was made of when you treated

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Speaker 3: no when somebody that Twitter asked you playing in the slot.

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Speaker 4: So what did you mean by that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I think that was the last year's issue.

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01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 9: You know, Now with a with a new defensive coordinator,

1432
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 9: just you know, being able to sit down and talk

1433
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 9: to him, uh see a new scheme and things like that,

1434
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 9: I feel like a little bit last year I was.

1435
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 9: I feel like I was more of a linebacker you

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01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 9: know in certain instances than an actual cornerback, you know,

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Speaker 9: talking to you know, Jim Schwartz and being able to

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Speaker 9: you know.

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Speaker 4: Getting this new scheme and things like that. I feel

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01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 4: like we'll work very well together. Yeah, I feel like

1441
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,560
Speaker 4: that was never Like the clear issue is just not

1442
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 4: me playing in the slot.

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Speaker 9: Like you know against Cincinnati Gardener guy like Tyler Boyd

1444
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 9: Garden guys like that. Like, I have no problem with

1445
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 9: doing that, you know, I just feel like in a

1446
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,560
Speaker 9: certain certain cases it was just I was more of

1447
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Speaker 9: a linebacker than you know, a cornerback.

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Speaker 2: So do you do you like the role that Jim

1449
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 2: Schwartz laying out for you?

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Speaker 5: And are you excited about it?

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01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 10: And what do you think it's going to be?

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01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 8: Like?

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01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm super excited. You know, his track record, you know,

1454
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 9: speaks for yourself. You know, just just the way he

1455
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 9: uses his D line. You know, it's gonna help us corners,

1456
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 9: you know so much more so, Yeah, just just getting

1457
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 9: to talk to him, you know, seeing how the scheme

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01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,600
Speaker 9: is gonna be ran, I'm super excited can be a

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01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 9: you know, like a leader for him.

1460
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Speaker 8: I mean he's gonna need some guys to kind of

1461
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 8: get this thing going in the right direction.

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Speaker 11: Do you feel like, are you gonna be that guy

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Speaker 11: for him.

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Speaker 3: Or one of those guys?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean that's a goal of mine, you know,

1466
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Speaker 9: going into year three, being around the program, you know,

1467
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 9: seeing things that you know we need to fixing, things

1468
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 9: like that, being more of a vocal leader this year

1469
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Speaker 9: and things like that.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I'm definitely ready to take that next role.

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Speaker 3: What do you think needs fixing most on the defense?

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Speaker 9: You know, I think I think it's just consistency. You know,

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Speaker 9: That's what we're preaching, you know right now, is just

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01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 9: you know, being consistent. You know what, We've had games

1475
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Speaker 9: last year where we looked super dominant, then we had

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Speaker 9: games where we didn't.

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Speaker 4: So I I think our thing is gonna be, uh,

1478
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:02,799
Speaker 4: you know, being consistent.

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Speaker 5: Greg, is there a change?

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Speaker 3: Things can change in training camp and you end up

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01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 3: on the outside or you the nickelback going into this

1482
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Speaker 3: offseason program, you.

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Speaker 9: Know, I would say, no role is kind of stamped,

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01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 9: you know, with his new scheme. I feel like if

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01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 9: you watch his stuff before, you know, the corners that

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01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,719
Speaker 9: he had before everyone plays, you know a lot of everything.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 9: So I kind of don't know exactly what my role

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01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 9: will be, but you know, just talking to him, I'm

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01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 9: just super excited to you know, give with my new

1491
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,679
Speaker 9: teammates and you know, get ready for this next season.

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01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:36,799
Speaker 8: Do you play in the slot a fair amount?

1493
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 11: Do you think you'll be that much better for it

1494
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 11: for having played it some.

1495
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 5: Last year and that you might be able to shine

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Speaker 5: and excel in it.

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Speaker 9: Even more this year if you do.

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01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like I'm you know, super confident.

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Speaker 9: You know, whatever role you know that I need for

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Speaker 9: that game or for that week, I'm super confident I'll

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Speaker 9: be able to get the job done.

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Speaker 11: Greg, I guess do you go ahead?

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Speaker 6: Chris?

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Speaker 3: What is One meant to?

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01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 2: You know, how much have you talked to one since

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Speaker 2: he's signed here?

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Speaker 4: And what can he mean to this this room?

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01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 2: You know, just kind of you know, coming in having

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01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 2: won a couple of Super Bowls and.

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Speaker 4: That sort of thing. Yeah, I actually met one, I

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01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 4: think last year.

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01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 9: We trained together in the off season last year, so

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01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 9: I was super excited, you know, getting to you know,

1514
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 9: meet him again in person and you know, just talking

1515
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 9: to him and a guy who has championship pedigree, he

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01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 9: knows what it takes. Uh So he's gonna be able

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01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 9: to be that guy you know when the going gets

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01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 9: tough and things like that, he knows how to get

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01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 9: through it. Uh So, you know, we're super excited to

1520
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 9: get him in this building.

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01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 11: Greg, I know you played obviously some slot your rookie year.

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01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 3: It was more last year.

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01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 11: I guess when you were playing in the slot more

1524
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 11: outside list. Did you feel like last season as it

1525
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 11: were on, that you weren't getting to build on some

1526
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 11: of the things that you were starting to excel at

1527
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 11: from your rookie year. Was that part of maybe the

1528
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 11: frustration there?

1529
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was too.

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01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 9: And then I mean we just weren't winning ball games,

1531
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 9: you know, that was That's the biggest thing for me,

1532
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 9: you know, team success. So you know we're not winning.

1533
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 9: You know, I feel like I wasn't making a lot

1534
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,600
Speaker 9: of plays. You know, I was just frustrated.

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01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 9: But you know, I think in this next year, you know,

1537
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,759
Speaker 9: just talking to Schwartz once again and you know, seeing

1538
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,679
Speaker 9: his new scheme and things, I think it's gonna be great.

1539
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 8: Specific to you guys, Greg, with UH coach Howard leaving

1540
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:12,640
Speaker 8: and obviously Brannan was here before, just talk about that

1541
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 8: transition of having a new specific corner coach.

1542
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 6: Now.

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01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, I it's crazy now cause we're split up a

1544
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:20,640
Speaker 9: little bit more than we were last year.

1545
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 7: Uh.

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01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 9: But yeah, I mean I was with Bee Lunch, he

1547
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 9: was kind of he was a corner coach last year.

1548
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 9: He just didn't really you know, have the title. But

1549
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 9: I'm super excited for him. He's a great coach. Uh

1550
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 9: we loved him, and uh yeah we're we're expecting to

1551
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 9: do big things this year.

1552
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 3: Did your frustration ever get to a point where you

1553
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 3: thought you might wanna go somewhere on?

1554
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 6: Nah?

1555
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 9: I said it from the jump, like I w I

1556
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 9: I wanna be one of those guys, uh to stay

1557
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 9: in one place their whole career. Uh, you know, l

1558
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 9: once again, the fans and everything about Cleveland is all

1559
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:49,799
Speaker 9: what I'm about.

1560
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:52,599
Speaker 4: So no, I'm hoping to be here for the long run.

1561
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 5: You feel like, you know, even now with you know,

1562
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 5: going to the Cavs next series and all that kind

1563
01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 5: of stuff. I mean it, it even just brings you

1564
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 5: more imbedded into the community.

1565
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 9: And how much you love it here, right, And it

1566
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 9: was crazy, Yeah going to the game, it was just electric,

1567
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 9: Like it just shows what the future can hold.

1568
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 6: You know.

1569
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 4: Obviously we got to start.

1570
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 9: Now, this is day one of workout, so you know,

1571
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 9: we got to keep building upon but you know, trying

1572
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 9: to get to that playoffs, try to get to that

1573
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 9: super Bowl run. I could just tell you know how

1574
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 9: excited the fans were, you know for the Calves, So

1575
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 9: I can only imagine for us.

1576
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:29,799
Speaker 4: I'm not a good softball player. I'm crazy.

1577
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 11: Yeah, great, Greg, do you feel a new defensive coordinator

1578
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 11: and all the new players on this defense, like, is

1579
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 11: there been fresh life I guess kind of breathed into

1580
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 11: the defense that side of the ball coming back into

1581
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 11: the building this week, do you feel like for sure?

1582
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 9: I mean I think you could just tell by you know,

1583
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 9: everybody coming back, like we have all of our guys here,

1584
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 9: you know, super excited, ready to go, and you know,

1585
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 9: once again just seeing his track record, you know, he's

1586
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 9: been a part of Super Bowl defenses. He had top five,

1587
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 9: top one defenses. So I think we're super excited his

1588
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 9: head talent.

1589
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 8: You guys have got line of talent on your side

1590
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 8: with ball in the last couple of years. So I

1591
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 8: guess what can Jim Sports do as a defensive coordinator

1592
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 8: to really just bring the best time of all of

1593
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:15,759
Speaker 8: you guys and get you all play as a cook.

1594
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:18,759
Speaker 9: Separ Yeah, I think it's just you know, putting guys

1595
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 9: in the best position to succeed. And I feel like

1596
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 9: he has shown that in the past, you know, getting

1597
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 9: our guys up front to go get after the quarterback,

1598
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 9: which is he's shown that in the you know, in

1599
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 9: the past so we're super excited with him, and you know,

1600
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,640
Speaker 9: as a secondary seeing his track record with the D

1601
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 9: line is only going to help us out.

1602
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:38,879
Speaker 4: So yeah, we're super excited.

1603
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 2: Recommendations on any receivers offficient statement?

1604
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, my guy.

1605
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 3: All right, that's Greg Newsome the second from last week's

1606
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 3: media availability. We'll take a time out when we come back.

1607
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 3: My interview with CBS Sports Draft analyst Ryan Wilson from

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Speaker 3: Brugler joined Ken Carmen and Nathan Zegura tonight from the

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Speaker 3: Best Podcast Available. A little bit more of a deep

1618
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:39,560
Speaker 3: dive into this year's NFL Draft. Here's yours truly with

1619
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Speaker 3: CBS Sports NFL Draft analyst Ryan Wilson. Why do you

1620
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 3: like Bryce Young.

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01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 10: You watch Bryce play and that's why. That's why I

1622
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 10: like Bryce Young. And here's the thing, Like CJ is

1623
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 10: a really good football player. Do you watch him in

1624
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 10: the fall on television. You're sitting home on Saturday, and

1625
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 10: you're going, Okay, yeah, he's making some plays, but he's

1626
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 10: throwing to Last year it was Chris Garrett Wilson, Marvin

1627
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 10: Harrison the second and he made plays this year without

1628
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 10: Jackson Smith and Jigwa by the way, so he was

1629
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 10: able to do that. But Marvin Harrison had a huge

1630
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 10: season in twenty twenty two, and you sort of get

1631
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 10: away from the fact that he's actually doing a lot

1632
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 10: of this as well. A lot of this is on CJ.

1633
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 10: Like he's making these throws, he's layering these throws to

1634
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 10: the second level. He's also at an offensive line that

1635
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 10: every year you have two or three guys that are

1636
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 10: getting drafted high Alabama. I mean, it's hard to make

1637
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 10: the sop sword for Alabama. But in Bryce's defense, he

1638
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 10: hasn't been thrown at the same receivers that Tua and

1639
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 10: mac Jones were throwing to. All those first round picks

1640
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:36,679
Speaker 10: that got drafted. He's throwing just a bunch of guys,

1641
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 10: many of whom may not get drafted, and he does

1642
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:47,640
Speaker 10: it consistently off platform. He probably there's probably no one

1643
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 10: better in this draft that moves inside the pocket with

1644
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 10: as much subtlety and effectiveness as Bryce does. Never rattle.

1645
01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:00,640
Speaker 10: We were talking to Will Anderson to the combine and

1646
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 10: he said, I've seen Bryce get hit by SEC defensive

1647
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 10: lineman time and time again, and every time Bryce gets

1648
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 10: up and he's better on the next play. And another

1649
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 10: way to say that is that no moment's too big

1650
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 10: for Bryce. We've seen moments overwhelmed quarterbacks. We've seen moments

1651
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 10: overwhelm Will Levis at times to the Anthony Richardson, and

1652
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 10: you don't see that with Bryce. The only issue is

1653
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 10: that he's five to ten. That's a pretty huge issue.

1654
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 10: That's historically small by quarterback standards. But if he's six

1655
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 10: to one, guess what we're talking about him, like we

1656
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 10: talking about Trevor Lawrence and Joe Burrow, and he's going

1657
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 10: first and that's a rap and he's gonna I think

1658
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:36,600
Speaker 10: he starts from day one. I think he probably has

1659
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 10: the best rookie season. Obviously, fit matters, and players around

1660
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 10: him matter. The Texans aren't a great football team now

1661
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 10: and neither are the Panthers, and it'll be fun to

1662
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 10: watch those two organizations. Sould she should CJ go to

1663
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 10: Carolina and Bryce go to Houston how they track over

1664
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 10: the course of the season. But there are no holes

1665
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 10: in Bryce's game other than the fact that he's short.

1666
01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:00,040
Speaker 10: And you might say, well, balls get batted down. He

1667
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 10: didn't get balls by today of Alabama. And I think

1668
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 10: you know, the best predictor of future success is what

1669
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 10: you've done in the past, and this dude has been

1670
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 10: incredibly successful.

1671
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Speaker 3: Talking with Ryan Wilson, CBS Sports, NFL Draft Analyst, NFL

1672
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Speaker 3: NFL coverage and analysts throughout on cbssports dot Com, also

1673
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:24,639
Speaker 3: CBS Sports Multiple Platforms podcast as well with the First

1674
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 3: Pick Podcast with Rick Spielman. All right, let's talk about

1675
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 3: those Ohio State guys, Jackson, Smith and Jigba. A lot

1676
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 3: of people think there could only be one wide receiver.

1677
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 3: I don't think that'll be the case that goes in

1678
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 3: the first round, but obviously he's toward the top of

1679
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 3: the list. Paris Johnson has really elevated, and I know

1680
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 3: in your latest mock you have him going ninth to

1681
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 3: Chicago and then a guy that I know Browns fans

1682
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 3: are hoping maybe is around later on night number two

1683
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 3: of the draft, in that third round, Zach Harrison, the

1684
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 3: edge rusher out of ohiost if you could talk a

1685
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 3: little bit about those guys.

1686
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Speaker 10: Yeah, let's start with Zach Harrison. I think Jack Harrison

1687
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 10: will be around. I talked to teams, so I was

1688
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 10: at the Ohio State protey to watch CJ. Than all

1689
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 10: the other guys were there as well. And by the way,

1690
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 10: Marvin Harrison Junior, I think he's gonna be pretty good.

1691
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 10: Just a hunch watching him catch passon CJ.

1692
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 3: He flashed.

1693
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 10: But in terms of Harrison, sweet Mercy again, I someone

1694
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 10: will love is building someone in a lab. That's what

1695
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:25,680
Speaker 10: a defensive end looks like when you build him in

1696
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 10: a lab. He is long, He tested well. The issue

1697
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 10: is he's a little high waisted, and that's sort of

1698
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 10: a scouting term. But his long legs are sort of

1699
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 10: skinny ish and at times you want those defensive ends

1700
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 10: to be a little thicker in the lower half to

1701
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 10: when you're setting the edge against these offensive line in

1702
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:46,440
Speaker 10: the NFL. That said, again, the arm linked the athleticism

1703
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 10: He's a little stiff at times in his movements when

1704
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 10: you watch the tape, and you'd like him to be

1705
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,839
Speaker 10: a little bit more explosive. And I think the reality

1706
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 10: is that when you talk to NFL teams about him,

1707
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 10: they love the body type and they love the player.

1708
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 10: But he may be there when the Browns eventually get

1709
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 10: on that clock with pick seventy four. He might be

1710
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 10: there pick ninety eight. He might be there to pick

1711
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 10: one eleven in the fourth round. I think I've heard

1712
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 10: mostly early day three because of the stiffness at times,

1713
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 10: But if you told me he went the third round,

1714
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 10: I would certainly believe that all day long. Paris Johnson

1715
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:21,560
Speaker 10: Junior thirty six inch charms like his arm linked is

1716
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 10: the same as Dewan Jones, and obviously he weighs seventy

1717
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 10: ish pounds depending on the day, less than Dewan. And

1718
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:32,720
Speaker 10: you have the position flexibility. Played right guard in twenty

1719
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 10: twenty one last year, played left tackle. Athleticism out of

1720
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 10: this world, had a great Pro day, did the workout.

1721
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 10: I know some teams weren't happy that Dewan didn't work

1722
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 10: out of the Pro day, but that was his choice

1723
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:46,599
Speaker 10: and that's fine. But Paris worked out, and he did

1724
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 10: himself favors by working out because you were able to

1725
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 10: see him move in person. You were able to see

1726
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 10: the athleticism in person do it going through the offensive

1727
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 10: line drills, and that showed up on tape. There's nothing

1728
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 10: needs to be refined, but you said about every player

1729
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 10: at every position coming in to the draft. But there

1730
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 10: are teams that like them a lot. There are teams

1731
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 10: that like them in the top ten, top ten a lot,

1732
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 10: and there are teams that are considering trading up to

1733
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 10: go get Paris Johnson Junior probably inside the top ten

1734
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 10: and Jackson Smith and Jigbu. It's one of those cases

1735
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 10: where what have you done for me lately? You forget

1736
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 10: about him because he only played in three games, only

1737
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:21,600
Speaker 10: had five catches because of the hamstring. But we're in

1738
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 10: the Super Bowl. We talked to Garrett Wilson and C. J.

1739
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 10: Stroud separately and both of them said without provocation that

1740
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 10: Jacks Smith and Jiggle was the best wide receiver on

1741
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 10: that team in twenty twenty one. He led the team

1742
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 10: in receiving, He led the team in receiving yards, and

1743
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 10: that group includes, as I mentioned, Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave,

1744
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 10: both first round picks, Marvin Harrison Junior, he's going to

1745
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 10: be a first round pick. You have to be a

1746
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:45,720
Speaker 10: top five pick, and of course CJ. Stroud, so that

1747
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 10: gets your attention. And the short shuttle three cone that

1748
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 10: Jackson's did at the combine was the best of anyone there.

1749
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 10: Over the pro day circuit. There have been number thousand

1750
01:21:57,320 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 10: kids that were kind of these pro days at every

1751
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 10: single position, all across the country. Jackson ranked second I

1752
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 10: think in a three cone and short shuttle, and that's

1753
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 10: a great indication of shordairy quickness and ability to change

1754
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 10: directions and those sorts of things. He ran a four

1755
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 10: or five at the Pro eight. It looked fast in person.

1756
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 10: Every team might talk to you said that's fast enough.

1757
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 10: So he is going to be in the conversation for

1758
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 10: wide receiver one I heard primarily it's him and Jay Flowers.

1759
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 10: Interestingly out of Boston College. You haven't heard a lot

1760
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 10: about Jay, but teams love Zay as well. So Jackson

1761
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 10: didn't didn't work out. Excuse me, didn't play much of

1762
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 10: the season because of the injury. But I think a

1763
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 10: lot like Jamar Chase is not going to matter. We've

1764
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 10: seen him work out. We know what he can do.

1765
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 10: We saw his tape in twenty twenty one, and just

1766
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 10: like the year before with Jamar when he didn't play

1767
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 10: the last year because of a COVID opt out, turns

1768
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 10: out it didn't matter. He's a good football player, and

1769
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 10: I think that's going to be the case with Jackson.

1770
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 10: He's going to come in and have the same sort

1771
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 10: of productivity that we saw from his teammates Garrett Wilson

1772
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 10: and Crystal Love when they came into the league last year.

1773
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 3: Talking with Ryan Wilson, CBS Sports, NFL and NFL Draft

1774
01:22:56,000 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 3: analysts follow him on Twitter at Ryan Wilson CBS. Is

1775
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 3: the best position in this draft also the deepest position?

1776
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 3: And if so, what would that position be? In your opinion?

1777
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 10: I think cornerback is pretty deep. I think that's a

1778
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 10: great place to start. Tight End is deep, which is

1779
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 10: kind of weird to say because you don't say that

1780
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 10: very often. Edge rusher has some guys he can get

1781
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 10: on Day three. They're gonna contribute right away now. Defensive line, linebacker,

1782
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 10: wide receiver. As you mentioned, those positions are not deep,

1783
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 10: but in terms of cornerback and the Browns could be

1784
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 10: in the market for a cornerback for sure, Christian gozale

1785
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 10: these guys are going to be you know they'll be.

1786
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:37,639
Speaker 10: They'll be at their new sits, giving their press conferences

1787
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 10: and then by looking for homes by the time the

1788
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 10: Brown's get on the clock, so they don't have to

1789
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 10: worry about these players. So Christian Gozalees, Devin Witherspoon, Deonte Banks,

1790
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 10: Joy Porter Junior, those guys will be gone in the

1791
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 10: first round. There's buzz that Emmanuel Forbes out Mississippi State

1792
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 10: could be a first round pick. And he's interesting because

1793
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 10: he's six feet but he weighs one sixty six and

1794
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 10: that might give Browns fans flashbacks to Greedy Williams. But

1795
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 10: this guy is an absolute ball hawk. I think he

1796
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 10: had thirteen career interceptions, six pick sixes, and he is

1797
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:08,839
Speaker 10: probably not even probably he's the best ballhawk in this class.

1798
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 10: And another player that's gets some first round buzz is

1799
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 10: Julius Brince. Juji Brince out of Kansas State. He's six

1800
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:17,599
Speaker 10: two and a half ran a four or five three.

1801
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 10: But again, like like Jackson Smith and Jigba, the short

1802
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 10: shuttle and the three cone were off the charts and

1803
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:25,760
Speaker 10: just talks about that short area quickness. If we're talking

1804
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 10: about when the Browns on the clock, some guys that

1805
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 10: that maybe will be there. Garrett Williams out of Syracuse

1806
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 10: towards ACL during the season. He's a tough player against

1807
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 10: the run and playing coverage. He's undersized in terms of

1808
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 10: his height weight, but he plays much bigger than that.

1809
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 10: I think he's five ten, five eleven, like one one ninety.

1810
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 10: Corey Trice is a huge cornerback out of Purdue. Ran

1811
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:50,759
Speaker 10: in the four fours. He also tested off the charts.

1812
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 10: Let's see, let me give you one more name here,

1813
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 10: how about let's go with Let's go with Eli Ricks

1814
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 10: LSU transferred with to Alabama. Long kid ran I was

1815
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 10: at the LM pro Da and he's fluid. His movements

1816
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 10: are fluid. There's some can he be coached up concerns,

1817
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 10: but in terms of immaturity, not a bad kid, but

1818
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 10: just that sort of thing that said, if you can

1819
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:12,760
Speaker 10: put it with Nick seven for a year, you can

1820
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:16,760
Speaker 10: probably handle just about anything. He is long, ran four

1821
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 10: to six, maybe four or five eight. He plays faster

1822
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 10: than that. Didn't start at Alabama last year, but when

1823
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 10: he got on the field and got his opportunity, he

1824
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 10: took advantage of it, and he could be there in

1825
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:27,640
Speaker 10: the fourth round, even though at times he's played like

1826
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 10: a Day two talent for sure.

1827
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 3: All Right, So we talked about wide receiver edge, I know,

1828
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 3: defensive line of linebacker that aren't as deep as in

1829
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 3: the years past. What about the running back room, especially

1830
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 3: the running back position? Maybe on day three? You know,

1831
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,519
Speaker 3: I've read some stuff. I know that you've talked about

1832
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 3: it a little bit as well. I feel like the

1833
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 3: Browns could be in a spot there to go get

1834
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 3: another guy, especially if they don't bring back Kareem Hunt

1835
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 3: right now, Nick Chubb and Jerome Ford, a guy that

1836
01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 3: they picked up last year from Cincinnati. I feel like

1837
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 3: there could be a need there running back maybe on

1838
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 3: day three. What do you think about that running back position?

1839
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 10: It's deep and that's another place where so the conversation

1840
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:12,600
Speaker 10: starts with b John Robinson and Jamier Gibbs, Right, But

1841
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 10: the issue is you can draft those guys in the

1842
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 10: first round or the first forty picks, but it's are

1843
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 10: you going to get the same are you overpaid for productivity?

1844
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 5: Right?

1845
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 10: Because Damian Pierce, I think was a fourth round pick

1846
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 10: last year wint to day three, went to Houston and

1847
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 10: just bawled out. And that's the math you're doing it,

1848
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 10: and that's actually good news for the Browns. And it's

1849
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:36,280
Speaker 10: funny that the Saquon Barkley draft, when he went second overall,

1850
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:39,680
Speaker 10: I think Nick Chubb goes in the thirties. And you

1851
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 10: could argue Nick Chubb has been more effective and probably

1852
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 10: pretty easily because Saqua missed time with the ACL injury

1853
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 10: and Chubb's getting paid now as he should. But you

1854
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 10: had him on that rookie deal where you were saving

1855
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:54,599
Speaker 10: money in the front end. But either way, so there

1856
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 10: are gonna be a lot of guys that are gonna

1857
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 10: be available. A guy that I absolutely love, I don't

1858
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,160
Speaker 10: know if he's going to be there early or that

1859
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:04,680
Speaker 10: late third round pick or the seventy fourth pick is

1860
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 10: Roshan Johnson out of Texas.

1861
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:06,840
Speaker 4: He might be there.

1862
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 10: Like I like him a little more than some other

1863
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:12,240
Speaker 10: people do. And Rochean was the backup to Beijon in Texas.

1864
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 10: He's bigger, he's probably a little stronger. He's not as fast,

1865
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 10: not surprisingly, but he is low mileage. He's a one

1866
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 10: cut and go run over guy type running back. He

1867
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 10: gives you an added element in the special teams, both

1868
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 10: in coverage and return. And he can block all day long,

1869
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 10: so he checks every box and he's a great kid.

1870
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 10: We've got a chance to speak with him as well

1871
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 10: as the combine. I love Roshan Johnson. I love him

1872
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 10: like second round, love him. But he may be there

1873
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 10: in the third and that could be a target completely

1874
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 10: different player. Maybe there at seventy four because of his

1875
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 10: size is the devonat chain the super sprinter speed running

1876
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 10: back out of TEXTA, A and M. He's only one

1877
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 10: eighty eight, but he runs between the tackles like he's

1878
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 10: two fifty. And I was talking to him with the

1879
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 10: combine because he legit ran a ten point one eight

1880
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 10: one hundred, which is I've been told extremely fast. I said,

1881
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 10: have you ever over the course of your twenty something

1882
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 10: years on earth, everyone everyone ran you down? He goes,

1883
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 10: I have no idea what it feels like to be

1884
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 10: caught from behind. In my life, no one has ever

1885
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 10: caught me. So that's type of speed we're dealing with him.

1886
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 10: You see it on tape, like he runs between the

1887
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:18,559
Speaker 10: tackles and he out runs everyone to the end zone.

1888
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 10: He can take it run the edge and outrun everyone

1889
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 10: to the end zone. So you know, pick your poison

1890
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 10: sort of situation. Another guy that I'll mentioned that I

1891
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:28,680
Speaker 10: liked that could be early day three, maybe late day two.

1892
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 10: Evan Hall at Northwestern. He's more of a James Connor

1893
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:35,519
Speaker 10: type back. Not to invoke the Steelers here, but he

1894
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:38,639
Speaker 10: gives you he's sort of a workhorse back. He's faster

1895
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 10: than he looks. He did everything in that Northwestern offense

1896
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 10: because that north Western offense stunk. He would run the

1897
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 10: wild cat at times. And he can make plays in

1898
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:47,720
Speaker 10: the passing game as well, so he gives you that

1899
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 10: added versatility. And he is tough. He is he takes

1900
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,560
Speaker 10: hit after hit. He's hard to bring down, and I

1901
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 10: love the way he played in the season. Went to

1902
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 10: the scenea Bowl, had a really good Scena Bowl there

1903
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 10: as well, But that could be a target with that

1904
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 10: one of eleven pick if running back is the position

1905
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 10: they decided to target there. I don't think he goes

1906
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 10: Day two, but maybe he does. The team really likes

1907
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:08,640
Speaker 10: him all right.

1908
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:12,679
Speaker 3: Final one, Ryan Wilson, We appreciate the time here, CBS Sports,

1909
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 3: NFL Draft and NFL Analyst. You can follow him on

1910
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 3: Twitter at Ryan Wilson's CBS Lamar Jackson's situation, the Aaron

1911
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 3: Rodgers trade to the Jets, that we're still kind of

1912
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 3: waiting for. Do those things come to fruition before Draft night?

1913
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 4: You know we do.

1914
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 3: I don't know if we're gonna have an answer on Lamar.

1915
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:32,599
Speaker 3: I feel like that's going to play itself out here

1916
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 3: over time. But the Aaron Rodgers trade to the Jets,

1917
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:39,679
Speaker 3: I'm assuming if you're the Jets, you want those picks

1918
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 3: this year, but maybe you want to wait a year.

1919
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be fascinating to see what

1920
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 3: happens there and how that dictates what could happen on

1921
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 3: Night one of the draft.

1922
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 10: No, Jason, that's the thing. And I didn't get the

1923
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 10: Aaron Rodgers saying from the jump. I am not a

1924
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 10: Jimmy Garoppolo fan by any stretch, but I thought he

1925
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 10: made more sense New York, and that it wouldn't cost

1926
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:03,760
Speaker 10: as much. He's gonna be the bridge quarterback, which's gonna

1927
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 10: be the bridge quarterback anyway, probably in Vegas at some point,

1928
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:09,439
Speaker 10: and he would fit into that locker room. Now, I

1929
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 10: know that the forty nine ers had had enough of

1930
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:13,640
Speaker 10: what was going on there, but then we didn't hear

1931
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 10: about in the media. It wasn't really a thing, and

1932
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 10: you know, you saw him laughing on the sidelines once.

1933
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:20,640
Speaker 10: Aaron Rodgers feels like he doesn't want to put his

1934
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:23,000
Speaker 10: heart and soul into it. He ain't gonna put his

1935
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:25,679
Speaker 10: heart and soul into it. And that's the concern. Because

1936
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 10: he's in his late thirties. He can retired any moment.

1937
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 10: You're gonna give up a ton to get this guy,

1938
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 10: and then maybe he decides to hang it up, and

1939
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 10: then the season and where you're at, where are you?

1940
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:36,160
Speaker 10: And my concern also is that that defense is so

1941
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 10: good you don't need Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers in

1942
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 10: the prime. You can sort of win with Jimmy Garoppol.

1943
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 10: Jimmy Garoppol is an upgrader for Mike White. Mike White

1944
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:45,840
Speaker 10: did some pretty good things last year when he wasn't hurt.

1945
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 10: But anyway, that ain't gonna happen. So they're basically locked

1946
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:51,400
Speaker 10: into Aaron Rodgers. I don't know when it's going to happen.

1947
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:54,600
Speaker 10: You would imagine that the Packers would like to have

1948
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 10: some compensation before the draft, but the Packers may be

1949
01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 10: in a situation where we're like, you know what, let's

1950
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:00,679
Speaker 10: just get rid of this dude, and whatever happens happens,

1951
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 10: and we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.

1952
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 10: Lamar feels a little more likely to happen, right. It

1953
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 10: just feels like I wish Lamar had an agent, so

1954
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:11,040
Speaker 10: the agent can handle everything for him, but that's not

1955
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 10: the world we live in. But I feel like Lamar

1956
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 10: is just taking his time and maybe making a statement.

1957
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:19,640
Speaker 10: I don't know, but it feels like that situation is

1958
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 10: much more it's much closer to being resolved. And certainly

1959
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:25,080
Speaker 10: what's going on with the New York and Aaron Rodgers

1960
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:27,400
Speaker 10: and the Packers, I don't know that, and that's bad

1961
01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:28,840
Speaker 10: news for the rest of the AFC North is great

1962
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:31,719
Speaker 10: news for the Ravens. But again, sort of time this together.

1963
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 10: If I'm the Jets, I'm just going up to Lamar.

1964
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 10: I'm willing to pay the two first round picks. You

1965
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:38,800
Speaker 10: have to pay him a boatload of money, but you're

1966
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:40,920
Speaker 10: going have to pay Aaron Rodgers as well, even if

1967
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 10: over a shorter term deal. So we'll see all these

1968
01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 10: play out. It does feel like a the Ravens and

1969
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 10: Lamar will sort something out certainly sooner and probably on

1970
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:52,840
Speaker 10: better terms than what the Packers and Aaron Rodgers end

1971
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:55,560
Speaker 10: up doing. But I don't know what Aaron Rodgers and

1972
01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:57,680
Speaker 10: the Jets and the Packers with that hold up is.

1973
01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:00,120
Speaker 10: Although I think Joe Douglas said recently that he's going

1974
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:01,760
Speaker 10: to be a Jet, it's just a matter when, and

1975
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 10: you know, at this point who knows.

1976
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1977
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1978
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1979
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1980
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1981
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Speaker 3: of his help. Thanks to Bo Bishop, Thanks to Ryan Wilson,

1982
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1983
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1984
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