WEBVTT - Will We Ever Live Without Sleep? 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.480 Guess what mango? What's up? Will? So I was reading 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:05.880 about this anthropologist Robert Lohman, and in the nineties Loman 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:08.399 went to popa New Guinea to study the Assabano people. 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:10.360 So it was his first night there and one of 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:13.160 the elders keeps apologizing to him because he couldn't sleep 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:15.480 over with him, like he wanted to share a bed 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:18.160 with Loman, but he had a few prior commitments. So 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:21.000 Loman's a little confused, right, But then he keeps getting 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:23.880 these offers from other men, and he quickly realizes this 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:26.880 is not a sexual thing. It's their version of hospitality, 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:29.480 like to make sure you sleep well and feel welcomed. 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:31.840 The Assabana make it a priority to offer you some 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:35.480 conversation and body warmth. And also they tell Loman having 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:37.479 a local in the room will protect him from witchcraft. 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:40.320 So you know, all good things. But what's funny is 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:43.319 that sharing a bed with strangers, especially while traveling, used 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:46.280 to be common practice. I was reading this book Wild Nights, 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:48.280 and and if the author talks about how it shows 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:51.360 up in Erasmus writing, it's disgusted moby dick. But the 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:53.960 funniest account to me was from the seventeenth century diarist 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:57.160 Samuel Peeps. Why's that well? Peeps used to keep this 0:00:57.240 --> 0:00:59.520 log of all of his bed mates, scoring them on 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:02.080 the quality their conversation, making a note if they did 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:04.600 too much tossing and turning. Can you imagine how nerve 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:06.720 racking of you to share a bed with him? I mean, 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:08.560 I feel like I spend a whole night worrying if 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:11.000 I was hugging the sheets, or like, think about if 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:14.120 my pillow talk was good enough. I want a good 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:17.319 review too. It's very nerve wracking. So well, speaking of 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:18.920 pillow talk, what do you say? We dive into this 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:36.959 episode on sleep Hei their podcast listeners. I'm Will Pearson 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:39.559 and as always I'm joined by my good friend Mangesh Ticketer, 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:42.080 and you're listening to Part Time Genius. Now we've got 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:44.440 a fun show today. We're discussing a topic that you 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:49.040 know frustrates me. Sleep. I have never been a fan 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:51.920 of sleeping. I'm definitely in the camp of people who 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.680 would totally take a pill if I could avoid it altogether. 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:57.960 I've always been this way, even in first grade when 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:00.560 Miss Pritchett made us declare our favorite animal. You know, 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:04.440 an animal I chose the giraffe. Why not because it 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:06.960 was tall, not because it could slam dunk with ease, 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:10.239 because they only have to sleep a couple hours of night. 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:12.880 How sad is this that that was like the reason 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:15.880 that I chose it. And I've always wondered if humans 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:19.520 will ever be able to avoid sleep entirely. So we're 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:21.000 gonna get to the bottom of this, are you ready? 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:22.840 I mean, like the very bottom. We're gonna figure this 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:24.880 out because I need to know if I'm going to 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:27.760 have my never sleep again dream come true. But but 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:29.720 we've got so many other fun things coming up in 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:31.520 the show as well. We'll take a look at what 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:34.320 happens in our brains when we're sleeping, what happens in 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:36.360 our brains when we're sleeping in a new place, or 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:38.680 when we're staring at a cell phone before we sleep. 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.360 We've got our part time genius quiz with a couple 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:45.960 of Zomba instructor Zumba instructors, right, Okay, that's kind this 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:49.080 is awesome, And someone I'm super excited to talk to. 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:52.320 We've got one of our favorite inventors, this self proclaimed 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:56.240 Queen of Crappy Robots, Simone Yet who happened to invent 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:59.000 a really funny alarm closs. So I'll talk about that. 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.919 She is amazing. So but before we get to all 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:06.600 of that, how weird a sleep mango? I know? I 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:08.959 mean the way we talk about sleep is really funny, 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:11.080 like people used to wear it, does this badge of 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:13.880 honor how little they slept. I've read this thing about 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:16.640 Keith Richards where he talked about being up for five 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:20.600 full days just working and composing and all this while 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:24.280 his lazy bandmates were taking naps. But um, it's always 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:26.720 this dig from productive people. But of course, you know 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:30.160 Keith Richard's being. Keith Richards has disaster stories about this too, right, 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:32.480 So there's this one time he stayed up for nine 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:37.000 days straight, which sounds horrible, but the way he describes it, 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:40.200 he was writing this adrenaline high and feeling totally awake, 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:42.600 and then all of a sudden, as he was reaching 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:45.320 to put a cassette tape on a shelf, he fell 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:48.800 asleep so hard he collapsed and broke his nose. I'm 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:51.480 not sure sleep studies should really be conducted on Keith Richards. 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:54.680 I'm thinking we're probably not as accurate. So well, there 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:57.839 are definitely these hyper productive people like Margaret Thatcher who 0:03:57.880 --> 0:03:59.880 only need three or four hours of sleep at night. 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:02.960 She needed so little sleep, and she was so committed 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:05.880 to being the best informed person in any room. She'd 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.040 stay up and read into the late hours, but then 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:10.080 she'd be up again at five in the morning to 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:12.960 listen to the British Farm Report. And of course all 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:16.480 her staff was constantly exhausted trying to keep pace. I know, 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:19.640 sleep doctors actually claimed she's got this rare genetic mutation 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:21.960 that allows her to function on less sleep, and it 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:25.159 affects about one percent of the population. But it's funny. 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:28.039 I read this beleaguered quote from her husband Dennis in 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:32.040 the BBC. I didn't even know there was a Dennist 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:35.640 stature until I read this piece. But his greatest contribution 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:37.400 to the republic seems to be trying to get her 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:39.680 to sleep. Like every once in a while he was 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:47.320 observed desperately reminding her woman bed talked that way. Of course. 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:49.760 My you know my other favorite Margaret Thatcher fact, and 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:51.960 that's in the late seventies, when she went to this 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:54.880 economic summit in Japan. The country tried to supply her 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:59.919 with twenty karate ladies I know. I just loved the 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.320 phrase create ladies, like there should be more of that 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:04.839 in history books. I agree. I agree. So there was 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:07.800 definitely a time, especially in the nineteen eighties, where Wall 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:10.839 Street execs and rock stars and media moguls used to 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:14.320 brag about how little sleep they got, like not sleeping 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:17.440 was thought to be glamorous, and even as far back 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:20.720 as Napoleon, who outlined the perfect amount of sleep, he 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:23.360 would say six hours for a man, seven hours for 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:26.360 a woman, eight hours for a fool, which just sounds 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:29.440 so French, it does, but now it feels like the 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.440 complete opposite. You look at these world class athletes like 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.919 Hussain Bold Lebron James, and they really brag about the 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:39.039 twelve hours of uninterrupted sleep they get and they work 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:41.200 to protect it. Yeah, there are tons of them, like 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:44.600 Marion Bartoli who won Wimbledon. She famously took this long 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:48.200 nap before winning. And uh, Christiano Ronaldo, the soccer star. 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:51.560 You know, he sleeps in this totally dark chamber and 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:54.359 he has electric blinds that flip open at ten am 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:56.840 or whenever he wants to get up, like that's his 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:59.720 alarm clock, and it's because he doesn't want any artificial 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:02.039 light in his room bothering him. I gotta remember to 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:03.880 turn the lights off in my chamber. Maybe that's been 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:07.599 my problem. So there's this clear premium on sleep. But 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:10.120 don't you think it's weird that we spend a third 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:13.440 of our lives pretty much paralyzed and unconscious. Honestly, I'm 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:17.400 getting just thinking about it. Think of all the things 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:19.320 you could be doing. I know we should all be 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:22.920 thatchering every night. But one of the things that's fascinating 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:25.560 to me is that there's this insistence that everyone has 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:28.159 to sleep the same way, right. And I was reading 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:31.440 this book Dreamland by David Randall, and in one section 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:34.120 he talks about this history professor from Virginia Tech who 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:37.599 kept finding references in medieval literature to first sleep and 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:40.719 second sleep. He found it in Canterbury Tales. He found 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:43.480 an old text. It was just repeated in lots of places, 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:47.440 and what he eventually sussed out was that historically people 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.080 will get two periods of rest. Every night. They'd go 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:52.400 to bed, then they'd wake up for an hour and 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:55.480 talk and think and engage in some canoe ling, and 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:57.800 after an hour they'd go back to bed and sleep. 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:00.400 Till morning, and this was a really common thing. Yeah, 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.520 I mean it reminds me of Ben Franklin and his 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:05.360 so called air baths, you know, where Franklin would wake 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:07.080 up at four or five in the morning work for 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:09.000 an hour. He claimed part of the reason he was 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:12.120 so productive is that he'd do it completely and totally 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:14.760 in the box, like in front of an open window, 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:18.160 hence the term air bath. But he'd have this eufork 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:20.480 period of productivity. Then he'd have the best sleep of 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:23.720 his life after that. Yeah, and obviously nude. Ben Franklin 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:26.480 had genius ideas to give us. Right, But there's this 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:29.440 great myth all over the internet that I so wish 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:32.320 was true. What's that? And it's that then Franklin invented 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:35.600 the first mechanical bull. That's gotta be true, right, I mean, 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:39.120 that's it. That's like the story goes that Ben Franklin 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:41.880 made a prototype bull and let John Adams ride it, 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:44.840 and it was so unwriteable that Adams ended up with 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:46.640 a third degree burned on his bottom. I'm going to 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:50.720 say so specific, but the part that makes it like 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:54.120 feel believable is that the primary reason Ben invented the 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.840 thing was to get people's bowels moving right, which is 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:58.720 you know, a total live But I love that some 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:01.200 fifth grade is probably in it in his school report. 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:03.720 That's brilliant. That's brilliant. But let's get back to this 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:06.840 first sleep, second sleep thing, which is fascinating. I mean, 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:09.200 to me, the most interesting part is that it's been 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:12.800 recreated in science experiments, like when people are isolated from 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:17.280 their screens, humans actually returned to this natural human sleep pattern, 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:19.760 and it brings up all sorts of questions about our 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:23.160 circadian clocks. But let's take a step back and talk 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:25.160 about that. I mean, we all know our bodies have 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.800 a natural clock, or what we call a circadian rhythm, 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.360 and as part of that twenty four hour cycle, we 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:33.280 know we get tired at night, then we wake up 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:35.880 in the morning. But why have we evolved to do 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:38.400 any of this? I mean, it seems like just the 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.080 act of going to sleep must have been so dangerous 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:44.559 for our ancestors, not wanting to be eaten by predators. 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:47.400 In fact, there's this this well known sleep researcher at 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:51.040 the University of Chicago named Alan Retstaffen who said, if 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:54.720 sleep doesn't serve an absolutely vital function, it's the greatest 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:57.959 mistake evolution has ever made. So there's got to be 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:00.560 a really good reason, right, I mean there is, right, 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:03.800 there's strong evidence that sleep is important for our nervous 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:07.240 system and our immune system, but the latest research on 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.120 what's happening in our brains when we sleep is some 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.600 of the most compelling. There's a tendency to think of 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:14.400 sleeping this time when our brains are inactive. It's actually 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:17.400 the opposite. Without getting too deep into it, we should 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:20.679 probably run through the five stages of sleep. So the 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:23.800 first and second stages are really light, and in fact, 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:25.560 the first stage is so light that you might not 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:28.120 know that you're sleeping. But by the second stage, your 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:31.679 brain starts pinging out some sleep specific waves. These are 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:33.680 just flashes that last a few seconds at a time. 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:36.560 Then the third and fourth stages move into this deep sleep, 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:39.480 and your brain starts sending out these long rhythmic bursts 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:42.240 called delta waves. This is where you start floating away 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:45.440 from consciousness, and in the fourth stage particularly, that's where 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:47.679 you can get disoriented. So I don't know if this 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:50.080 has happened to you, but if you've ever had sleep drunkenness, 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:52.320 like if you've ever woken up at the wrong cycle 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:55.199 and felt totally groggy. That's because you were interrupted in 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:57.760 the fourth stage. You're you're saying this all in such 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:00.199 a soothing voice. I think I need to share a 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:03.080 fact about waking people up in that fourth stage, so 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:05.839 they're actually all these ridiculous alarm clocks meant to wake 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:09.880 up really heavy sleepers, Like we've got simone yatch later today, 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:12.200 who made one of the funniest alarm clocks I've seen. 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:15.520 But there's this other great fire alarm clock from Japan 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.440 and it works by spring was Sabby into your room 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.480 was sobby, and which I guess makes sense since horse 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:23.560 radish up your nose is definitely going to get you 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:25.640 out of bed. But I kind of think about it 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:28.600 like this, like, what's worse than your house being on fire. 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:31.040 It's learning your house is on fire by having was 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:35.400 sabby spread up your nose. Yeah, it sounds terful. But 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:38.320 let's get back to the stages because there's only one more. Okay, 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:41.559 sorry about for the for the interruption. So we've gone 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:43.840 over the first four where your brain waves have gradually 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:47.240 slowed down, your body temperature has dropped, and you've gradually 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:50.360 become a mobile. You're in this deep sleep. So those 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:54.000 four stages of occupy about eighty percent of your sleep time. 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.600 But then we moved into the fifth stage, which is 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.760 r e M or rapid eye movement, And this is 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:02.840 where our brains get really going again, and your eyes 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:05.160 tend to dart around on your eyelids. And that's the 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:08.480 stage where we really dream, like in a good night's sleep. 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:11.080 You'd moved through these stages multiple times, right, And that 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:14.240 immobility part is important. I saw this weird cat study. 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:22.920 Wait is that more a cat's study. We're a researcher 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:25.480 named Michael Juve and France made tiny cuts and a 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:28.559 cat's brain and turned off the part that triggers immobility 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:31.920 and sleep. So when these cats hit the r EM stage, 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:34.280 instead of just playing the dreams out in their head, 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:37.800 they started acting them out in real life. The cats 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:41.360 started hissing and clawing and arching their bags and jumping 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:44.240 onto people encounters. You know how I feel about cats, 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:47.000 So this is terrifying to me. All in a dream state, 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:48.640 and when they were woken up, they were, you know, 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:51.600 very cat about it, like no big deal. Yeah, we 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:53.840 both share that fear of cats. Because I think it's 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:56.160 because they seem so unpredictable. But the fact that in 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:59.240 their sleep they're actually dreaming about clawing and attacking you, 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:02.040 that's yeah, it is crazy. And and you know, sleep 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.720 studies on other animals are just as fascinating. So for 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:07.960 years we've known that dolphins and whales and birds and 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:11.480 other animals sleep with only half their brain at a time, 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:14.000 so the other half can stand guard and look out 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:17.080 for predators. And in mallard ducks, for example, when they're 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:20.200 all in a line, the two outermost birds will often 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:23.000 be the only ones to keep half their brains to 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:25.880 look out for danger, like they just notice stand guard 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.200 for all the other ducks in the line. It's it's 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:31.040 crazy and I'm fascinating. But the weirdest thing is that 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:34.480 previously we didn't think humans did this, but it turns 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:37.360 out we do. There's this thing called first night effect, 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:40.240 which happens when we stay in a new place, our 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:43.000 brains revert to their animal instincts and they go into 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.760 survival mode to make sure nothing fishy is going on. 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:49.600 So instead of sleeping restfully, your brain takes turns, allowing 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:51.840 one half of your brain to sleep while the other 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:54.640 half of your brain stays more aware of its surroundings. 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:56.680 It's why you don't get a great night's sleep in 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:59.200 your first night, or a hotel or somewhere else new 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:03.000 So and strangely, the effect is almost completely gone by 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:06.280 night too. But before we get back to whether or 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:08.320 not humans will ever be able to go without sleep, 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:17.559 why don't we take a quick break for a quiz. Okay, 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:18.839 man goes, So, who do we have on the line 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:20.960 to play with us today? Today? We've got two part 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:25.000 time Zoomba instructors on the line, Stacy and Zoomba. This 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:27.520 is exciting, super exciting. When we put out a call 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:30.120 for Zoomba instructors, we didn't know what to expect. But 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:32.880 we've got two really good ones on the line. So 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:36.320 our first one works in corporate communications by day and 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.480 as a Zoomba instructor at night. Gathongeli, welcome to part 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:42.520 time Genius. Thank you. And our other one is a 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:46.000 voiceover actor by day and a Zoomba instructor at night. 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:50.640 So Stacy, welcome to part time Genius. Hi. So you 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:52.600 know what I have to ask you guys, just to 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:55.480 to get a better understanding of what Zoomba is I 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:58.480 have to confess I've never been to a zoomba class. 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:01.120 I think I'm planning to go. You guys are nice 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:03.200 enough to tell us we should come by one of 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:06.160 yours at some point. But Gathangela, let's start with you 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:10.560 explain to us the difference between zoomba and just say, 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:14.720 regular aerobics. With regular aerobics you kind of break down everything, 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:18.839 but with zumba you just google go and um. It's 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:21.280 similar that it's in the sense that it's a dance 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:25.360 audio format. Um, but it has all sorts of world dance. 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:27.240 The emphasis is that you do a little bit of 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:31.200 Latin American, little African, a little Indian Bollywood, and so 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:34.360 you get a little taste of the world while you 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:37.920 dance and have fun. And uh and Stacy, you mentioned 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:40.760 you have a background in ballroom dance and Chinese opera. 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:45.080 Is that required to go to a zoomba class. Yeah, okay, no, no, 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:47.160 I mean you don't need to have any sort of 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:50.920 dance backgrounds at all. Um. I think it's just influences 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.960 my own classes, because you know, I just noticed, I'll 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:57.080 I'll throw in some elements sometimes even I'm not even 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.240 conscious of the fact that I that they're in there, 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:01.720 you know, but since actually I hold my arms or 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.760 maybe Wally I use my hands are inspired by ball 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:09.120 room or by Chinese opera. Um, but you know what 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:11.680 I love about seeing that is I the honest truth 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:17.000 is I actually hate exercising. I'm in a zoom but class, 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:20.800 I just feel like I'm at a party, and hopefully 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:23.000 that's what my classes are like too. I just feel 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:25.840 like we're at a party. We're dancing, we're having fun, 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.640 and I didn't even care that they're sweat all over 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:31.560 the floor and that, you know, my hair is wet 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:33.600 all the way down to the end, you know, But 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:37.000 we're just having so much fun. That's awesome. That's kind 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:38.920 of the way we feel about podcasting. We're always so 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:44.760 sweaty and just like, but it's it's worth it, alright. 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:47.880 So we are playing a game today. What's it called 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:52.400 nonsensical Sleep rhymes. Nonsensical sleep rhymes, So this is a 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:57.080 pretty dumb actually really. We invented this based on the 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:01.000 phrase you snooze you lose. So every answer starts you 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:04.960 snooze you blank, and the blank is some rhyming word. 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:07.600 It rhymes with loose and snooze. So if we were 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:09.880 to give you the clue what happens if you drink 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:14.760 Martini's in your sleep, you'd say you snooze, you booze, right, 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:18.560 So every answer is going to be exactly that moronic. 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:21.200 And what are we playing for here? Though? Today? Mango, 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.080 you're playing for the big prize. Whoever wins will get 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:26.960 a hand written note from us to your mom or 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:30.800 your boss. It's your choice. But actually we're gonna put 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:32.480 them on the same team today, you know, so they 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:34.720 both get this opportunity. We're gonna put you on the 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:37.440 same team. And let's see how this goes. You guys, 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:43.640 ready to play? You snooze, you lose, all right? So Gothogeli, 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:46.120 we're gonna start with you. If you have any problems, though, 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:47.640 we're going to throw it to Stacy and then we're 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:49.720 gonna go back and forth. And our goal is for 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:52.440 you guys to get all nine of these correct. Let's 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:55.480 go quickly, you're ready, Here we go. What happens when 0:16:55.520 --> 0:17:03.520 you communicate with cows when you're sleeping? Yes, well done, alright, Stacy? 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:06.880 What happens when you board a carnival ship when you're sleeping? 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:12.199 You snooze you crew well, Gothongeli. What happens when you 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:15.639 put pantine in your hair when you're sleeping? You snooze? 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.879 You shampoo. I love how you can hear it in 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:21.960 her voice that she's like, is the quiz really this done? 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:27.439 But it is? Snooze your shampoos? Right, alright, Stacy? What 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:30.520 happens when you have anemia and you bump into things 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:34.760 in your sleep? You snooze? Man, You guys are so 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:37.400 good at this. Four out of four so far? Alright, Gothongeli. 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:40.160 What happens when you start attaching things with a bottle 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:46.200 of Elmer's in your sleep? You snooze? You glue with confidence? 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:49.840 She's bought in. Alright, alright, Stacy? What happens when you 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:55.280 sneeze in your sleep? Like you? Oh no, I'm blanking 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:59.760 you sneeze, you snooze you? What sound do you make 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:07.840 when you sneeze? Aha? It's well, it's not as you snooze. Yes, 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:16.520 that's it, you got it, You got it right? All right, 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:18.760 we're coming back to you, Juli. Here goes. What happens 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:22.200 when you play a buzzing kids instrument in your sleep? 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:29.880 You snooze? You? What is that it's a really simple 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:33.840 instrument you put to your mouth and sounds. You got it. 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:38.000 You snooze you kazoos. Right, this is the dumbest quizz 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:40.000 Every time we do a quiz, I'm like, they can't 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:43.199 get any dumber, and this may be the dumbest we do. 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:46.400 We do all right, Stacy number eight, What happens when 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:51.000 you construct an Inuit shelter in your sleep? Sneeze you iglue? 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:55.240 Well done? All right, to bring it all home. Let's 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:58.119 see you guys can Well, we'll let Gethanoli answer this one. 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:01.040 What happens when you dine with pand is in your sleep? 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:05.680 Thank goodness, I think about what they might munch on. 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:13.040 Oh you knew you bamboo? Yes, it was really dumb. 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:16.840 That's right. Our hands are going to be pretty tired 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:19.600 from writing these notes. This is great. Well yeah, well 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:21.600 we're not only sending them home with notes, We're also 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:23.760 going to be mailing them a canned which which is 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:25.760 the number one peanut butter and jelly and a can 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:30.399 on the market sandwiches and things that are stored in 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:34.560 pop top containers. You loved canned which are they one 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:40.240 of the sponsors. That's awesome, Well, we will have to 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:42.480 check out a zoomba class. You guys have us sold 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:44.919 on this. Cathogeli and Stacy, thank you so much for 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:58.080 joining us on part time Genius. So, as we discussed 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:00.920 before the break, I hate sleeping. I don't know why 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:03.280 we have to do it. It feels extravagant and lazy, 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:06.480 perfect waste of time. So convince me, mango, why do 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:09.400 we need sleep? Well, it sounds like a tall order, 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:11.800 but the first thing is that our brains are using 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:15.200 it for some major memory consolidation. Like just think about 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:17.679 all the things that happened during a single day. Every 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:20.399 time your brain learned something, which is pretty much every 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:24.439 waking second, the connections between your neurons are strengthened and 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:26.840 new connections are created. But if you stop and think 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:29.280 about how many short term memories your brain is creating 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:31.720 and I don't know, like a twelve or fourteen hour period, 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:35.240 it's staggering. So our brain needs a way to sit 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:38.200 through all that information and file away the important learnings. 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:41.240 And they're all these experiments that confirmed this, Like there 0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:44.080 was this Harvard study where kids were trained to catch 0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:46.199 a ball in a cone, like over the course of 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:48.119 a half hour the kids got better at it, and 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:52.080 their technique improved from let's say about But then the 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:54.399 group was split into two sets, and one of the 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:57.679 group's got great sleep and their ability to catch the 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:01.840