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Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Melancamps and Tamra Jedge. Hi, guys,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to to Cheese and a Pod with myself,

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Speaker 1: Teddy Mellencamp and Tarra Judge. Today we have one of

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Speaker 1: my most favorite people on me, Carlos King. He's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Have you actually talked to him before? No, this will

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Speaker 1: be my first first time. Your podcast with him was incredible.

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Speaker 1: He has been a producer on so many amazing shows,

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Speaker 1: from Real Housewives to Atlanta to Jersey to you. He's

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Speaker 1: got his own new show now, Don't Be Party. I

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Speaker 1: mean well, we got to ask him if he will

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Speaker 1: have us both on his new talk show. Oh we should, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think very fun. Well, hello, they are hello handsome,

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Speaker 1: Hi beauty. Carlos and I have become very close sweet

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Speaker 1: text often right brag here like best friends. So it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be two teas and once see you and t

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Speaker 1: in a pod. Carlos, speaking of the Twats and the

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Speaker 1: c un Teese, we had to address something. I listened

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Speaker 1: to your interview with Dave Quinn and I feel like

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Speaker 1: you were trying to come at me a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I felt a little bit. Yes, Well, because Dave Quinn

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Speaker 1: was saying, matter of factly, Teddy has her accountability business.

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Speaker 1: And then you were like, well you caught with Drew

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Speaker 1: and that kind of and I think Dave Quinn was

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Speaker 1: actually complimenting me, like it was like she did it first, Carlo,

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Speaker 1: She's coming after my girl. And you were like, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, hell, I'm gonna give it to him.

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Speaker 1: You don't want you don't want to. After you asked

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Speaker 1: Heather to Brooke fancy pants. No, Teddy, Teddy, Dave and

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Speaker 1: I are like this close. I don't know where he's

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Speaker 1: being funny, shady or real, because I thought he was

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Speaker 1: gonna throw shape and I was I was blocking him

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Speaker 1: from trying to do it. So I apologize if you

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Speaker 1: took it that way. Oh Teddy, I'm I'm a Teddy

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Speaker 1: camper like cancer. I was like, he's coming on. I

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Speaker 1: liked him, but now I see he was trying to

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Speaker 1: make fun of my No, I would never do that

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Speaker 1: to you. If somebody comes for Teddy, they're dead. They're

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Speaker 1: dead to her. You come for her, you're dead, ask camera.

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Speaker 1: I love your podcast and I even I even tell Tamera,

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Speaker 1: I said, it was such a weird surprise that you

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Speaker 1: two were doing it, and then the other surprise was

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Speaker 1: how good it is? Like because I didn't know. The

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Speaker 1: thing is, I didn't know you too have this chemistry.

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Speaker 1: Well we do. So many people say you should be

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Speaker 1: doing this with Vicky. People tell me that all the time.

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Speaker 1: Love Vicky, but I feel like two housewives from different um,

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Speaker 1: you know, franchises kind of work better. Everybody knows me

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Speaker 1: and Vicky together. I'd love to do something else. What

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Speaker 1: do the perfect fit? What do you think? Listen? I

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Speaker 1: love Vicky two. It was smart for you to branch

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Speaker 1: off because you never want to be tied down to

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Speaker 1: one person, right like for example, people think it's the

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Speaker 1: Kyle and Teddy show. People think it's the Biggie and

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Speaker 1: Tamar show. And although although initially you think like, oh,

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Speaker 1: why didn't Dickie and Tamara do this, when I've heard

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Speaker 1: um your conversation with Vickie Tamera and how she was

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Speaker 1: disgusted that you did it with Teddy, it made sense

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Speaker 1: because I love Vicky, but I think Vicky would have

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Speaker 1: made it the Vickie Show. Yes, well, do you guys

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Speaker 1: want to have a little laugh here? Because so I'm

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Speaker 1: friends with Amy Phillips, you know, her podcast whatever. So

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Speaker 1: she sent me, well, I had somebody sent me this

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Speaker 1: meme and then she voiced over at it. So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna try to play you guys hopefully, hopefully all can

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Speaker 1: hear it and see it. So that's Vicky right there.

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Speaker 1: Oh of a sudden, you wake up a body go,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, I love it. She just to call

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Speaker 1: Gretchen's name and put mine. I was like, I loveby.

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Speaker 1: She's so genius. That one's so good. So we have

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Speaker 1: you know, we have to start grilling you, ask all

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Speaker 1: the things. Um, you're a master when it comes to

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Speaker 1: reading people and knowing what makes great television. Tell us

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Speaker 1: where that instinct comes comes from. It comes from me

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Speaker 1: being this nosey gay boy up under my mother watching

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Speaker 1: endless hours of soap Opera US and the Oprah Winfrey Show.

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Speaker 1: I majored in journalism and media communications in college. Again,

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Speaker 1: if I'm going to be nosy, I need to get

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Speaker 1: really be somebody who just loves information. And then after

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Speaker 1: entering at the view, let me tell you something, You

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Speaker 1: housewives have nothing on the View co host. The stuff

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Speaker 1: real show. The first person that ever came at me

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Speaker 1: when I was a househld like, people liked me in

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Speaker 1: my first season, shockingly enough, except for Megan McCain. She

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Speaker 1: was like out for blood. Yeah, she's very opinionated. Ye,

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Speaker 1: she apologized steady. It even said, like, you know, you should.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, I take myself a lot less seriously

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Speaker 1: than I did when I first started the show. So

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Speaker 1: I'm able to realize that people I can walk now

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Speaker 1: show and like somebody one week and not like them

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Speaker 1: to yeah, and I think, listen, I think your first season.

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Speaker 1: I always tell people this first season Housewife, it's sort

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Speaker 1: of like core play, right, You're trying to like get

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Speaker 1: your groove going, understand your d spots. It's but the

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Speaker 1: problem is it's like sober for play, Like you're not

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Speaker 1: the tip the whole honey. When you're Tamera, you come

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Speaker 1: in hunting with the order. I I was gonna disagree

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Speaker 1: and the drunk, I was the yeah yeah. The more

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Speaker 1: I think, I think, let me tell you, Teddy this,

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Speaker 1: You're talking to a producer who did not work with you,

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna tell you as somebody who worked on

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Speaker 1: Jersey and Atlanta to very different shows, but but very

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Speaker 1: successful UM shows as well. The organic friendship you have

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Speaker 1: a Kyle to me was very very good because we

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Speaker 1: love to see real friendships. I think that disconnect came

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Speaker 1: because you appeared to second guess everything that was happening

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Speaker 1: around you. My favorite moment from you, Teddy is when

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Speaker 1: you checked Erica Jayne, but the moment she checked you back,

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Speaker 1: you shut down. And then my other favorite moment of yours,

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Speaker 1: it's where you told that these riches like I'm over

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Speaker 1: and I listen to your podcast. I knew that, but

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Speaker 1: produced for like somebody rebuild this bomb, but you did it.

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Speaker 1: I would say this, have given enough opportunity to do

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Speaker 1: that show or any other reality show. Trust your instinct.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were great on Big Brother. Thank you know,

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Speaker 1: so I know you have it in you. Well I can.

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Speaker 1: I feel like this is therapy now, and I can

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Speaker 1: tell you why. Um. I have always been one of

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Speaker 1: those people that, um, I am fine to go on

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Speaker 1: And so there's a certain that where like I've now

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Speaker 1: housewives have taught me how to like be able to

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Speaker 1: speak up for myself and continue on because now, I mean, hell,

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Speaker 1: I'll be at Gilson's and someone who's root for Rudi men,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, let's go. You know. But I didn't have

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Speaker 1: like you, and that's okay, It's okay. I tell people

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Speaker 1: as well. Personally and professionally. Twitter is not the real world.

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Speaker 1: It's all about algorithms. You follow based on your likes

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Speaker 1: and and people who have the same opinion as you.

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Speaker 1: So if you're flooded. For example, if I'm a viewer

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Speaker 1: and I love Kyle, which I said this to Tamara,

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Speaker 1: Twitter feed, we love Kyle until you step on the

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Speaker 1: I want to feed back on Selim. She's got it

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Speaker 1: in her. She does, but she overthinks herself, Like, yes,

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Speaker 1: you were. I felt like you were your best your

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Speaker 1: last season and then you still got them too. How

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Speaker 1: much I was shocked. I'm gonna be honest with you.

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Speaker 1: and as a viewer, I was like, I really want

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Speaker 1: I felt robbed. I felt robbed as a viewer that

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Speaker 1: wanted to know how to handle it because there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be situations that come up in business where people have

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Speaker 1: to get through ship and you definitely deserved another. That's

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Speaker 1: what I want to see wives like. I love it

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Speaker 1: when you see an authentic drama, whether it's marriage or

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Speaker 1: I'm so sick of seeing that. No over it to remodel.

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Speaker 1: I don't care there. I don't care about a divorce,

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Speaker 1: a demolition. No, And I don't care about a renewing

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Speaker 1: renewers married on TV. Tam, I didn't renew my I

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Speaker 1: still married. And she had a wedding special. Honey, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe I should. Maybe I should look for a third

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Speaker 1: husband so I can get on TV again. Okay, who's

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Speaker 1: your favorite housewife you've ever worked with? Gonna give me trouble, Um,

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Speaker 1: I would say it's a three weight tie. Okay? Is that? Okay? Tony? No,

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Speaker 1: you want one to me? Here who it is? And

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Speaker 1: I would be in my head so much. I'm gonna

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00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: say this to you then then don't do reality Look

425
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,959
Speaker 1: at Kenya Moore. Kenya Moore came in strong. I mean,

426
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 1: we're talking about a woman who was you know, Miss

427
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: USA and and did a lot of acting too. But

428
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: you can't make the choice to be on reality TV

429
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: and question how to be authentic like Kenya did not

430
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: wear the weight of the pageant community on her shoulders. Um.

431
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: I had a conversation with y K Williams about representation

432
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 1: in New York City and so much so she changed

433
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: my mind about who she was on that show. We

434
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 1: love Garcela, We're rooting for Garcel. We do believe that

435
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 1: Garcela needs to speak up more and send up for

436
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 1: herself and stop hiding behind the confession and those figure shades. Yeah,

437
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: because I think, yeah, they're health serious, they're good, they

438
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: resonate well with people. But like, I need you in

439
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: the mix, and I want to feel authentic friendships with

440
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: her and the other girls. And I'm trying to go in.

441
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: People are like, you know, Teddy, you're part of the

442
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: Fox Sports five, so you're you know, you're not gonna understand.

443
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: I want to be able to see the whole thing.

444
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 1: But I need to see real friendships. And I saw

445
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: how awkward the friendship was between Garcel and Sutton firsthand.

446
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: So the fact that so I'm telling the truth fan, yeah,

447
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 1: I mean, and it was so brutal, Like I was like,

448
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: these two people would never be friends. I don't buy it.

449
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: I don't I think they're friends. I'm gonna get a

450
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: lot of chupper saying this, But whatever, I believe in

451
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 1: our friends because they care about what Twitter saying. That's

452
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I think they're friends out of convenience

453
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: and because they know who's being hated on the most.

454
00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 1: And that's what I That's where I'm having issues. All right,

455
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 1: So we are back. Um, one other question I had

456
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: before we get into recapping Atlanta is I can say

457
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 1: for myself, I know that TAM's the same. I thought

458
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: that my producer, who actually is no longer a producer

459
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: on Beverly Hills anymore, was honestly one of my best friends,

460
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: like I still do. We still text all the time,

461
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: Like I told him my deepest, darkest secrets, like he

462
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: was a bad move. Um, that's a bad do that.

463
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: How do you create that trust when you know ultimately

464
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: it's going to hurt us? Because you know, these producers

465
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 1: go through psychological they train them to just tell me anything,

466
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: tell me. So listen, I'm gonna tell you my my

467
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: my systems and my device. So for me, I always

468
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: tell my cast I can't get away lying to you.

469
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: So if I'm going to lie to you, it's gonna

470
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: come out. And then I lost your trust and it's

471
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: not worth it for me. But the biggest the biggest

472
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: mistake producers make are two things. Ay, they really become

473
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: friends with you, and they care about your friendship more

474
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: than a job. That's A and B. They don't understand

475
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: how to be honest with the reality star, like, just

476
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 1: be honest what people don't know guys, And and tell

477
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: me if I'm lying you love you would love me

478
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: more if I kept it real with you. If I

479
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: said to you camera, look, Mrs Boring can be talked

480
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: about this conversation. I can just please have it, Carlos, No,

481
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look, I'm gonna look crazy. Would you rever

482
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: look crazy doing the scene? But would you rather look

483
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: crazy or in them a live right? Let me? I

484
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: would rather have a producer that was straightforward with me.

485
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: Didn't like me. We had producers execut piscers. It would

486
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: blatantly lie to your face and we just did it.

487
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: I didn't have that like we. He was always straightforward

488
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: with like me, Like he would say, listen, I'm gonna

489
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: tell you that it's not gonna look good later because

490
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: I know you're thinking something else. You've got to do this,

491
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: you know, you've got to speak up or whatever it was,

492
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: or if I was like I don't want to invite

493
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: this person, He's like, that's not the reality of the show.

494
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: You know, there were there were real yes you need that.

495
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: I had that. I'm still friends with me and Leaves.

496
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: I spoke to Nini yesterday. I'm I'm very close to

497
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: Kenya Cherre, Porsche, Me and Porsche were texting today. They

498
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: all said to me, we love you because you're honest

499
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: and because your intention is you want us to win.

500
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: Because at the end of the day, what people don't understand,

501
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: the reality stars makes more money than the producer. So

502
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: one thing I obvious tell my my cast is I

503
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: want you to win. I want you to make all

504
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: the money you can make. I'm here to make you great.

505
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: It's sort of like you guys are musical artists and

506
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: I'm the producer. I'm producing tracks to make you great.

507
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: I'm start I'm producing scenes with you to make you great.

508
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: So I never lied to my cast, and that's the

509
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: reason why what it's two thoughts. Fourteen years later, I'm

510
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: still close to the biggest reality star of housewives to me,

511
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: which is Minnie Leaks. Now, why did you choose to

512
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: walk away from Housewives. So the thing for me was

513
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that I had time to

514
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: focus on the company because I was out of place

515
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: in my career where I wanted to create shows versus

516
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: being a hired producer. So I and I was living

517
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: in Atlanta at the time. That's how dedicated I was

518
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: to that show. I left New York City moved to

519
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: Atlanta because I felt, in order for me to be

520
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: the best producer possible, I need to understand this city

521
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: and the people in the city. So I've lived in

522
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: Atlanta for for those years. And then season nine, I

523
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: remember looking at the women and they were so comfortable

524
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: and complacent, and I was so disturbed by how comfortable

525
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: they were. And I had to sit down conversation with

526
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: the cast and I said, I'm always going to get

527
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: a job. I'm going to be fine. It's hard for

528
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: an act reality starts to get a second chance. It's difficult.

529
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: So the only thing I'm asking for you guys is

530
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: to be real. Let's make a great show. And that

531
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: season was a frustrated season because I knew then. I said,

532
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: I can't do the show anymore because I'm losing focus

533
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: on my company. I left Atlanta, moved to l A

534
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: and I just thought that the girls were comfortable. So

535
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: damn when people started complaining after I left, this show sucks.

536
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: What happened? What happened? I saw, I saw the riding

537
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: on the wall. Yeah, well, let's recap Atlanta. You gotta

538
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: recap to hear your opinions on some of these things

539
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: that are going down in Atlanta. Sure we have the

540
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: Spark shows best moments. Say finds out an assistant she

541
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: uses occasionally is one of Drew's assistant. He tells Drew

542
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: that chari Owe some money and he shared SI's personal

543
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: business Withdrew. One thing about Okay, I just said to

544
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: you guys, I lived in Atlanta. One thing about assistance

545
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: for gland Squat not all. Some of them they're so

546
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: desperate to get on television. I was gonna say they

547
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: should not be filming. I if I was producing that season,

548
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: looked me and my eye, you would have never seen

549
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: that person. But ever on my I thought the same thing.

550
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, why do we care and why is this?

551
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: But to me, it just made it. Yeah, it made

552
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: me sound like, oh, this guy just wants to get

553
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: on TV. That's it. Staged. Yeah, and it was an

554
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: excuse to set up Drew and having an argument and

555
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: and and it does. It's so fake to me because

556
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: to me, it was like say this to the camera

557
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: so that I can go back and tell so and so,

558
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: so that I can fight with say so that I

559
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: could be relevant on the show. I can't stand that.

560
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: And I can see my through the b s. Yeah,

561
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: I agree. I love the relationship Marlowe has with her

562
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: nephews and big heart for her to bring you know,

563
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: her sisters rights, their sisters children, raise them. Um. I

564
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: love seeing that dynamic with her and those kids. They're

565
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: they're adorable. No, that was my That's my favorite part

566
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: of that particular episode. Love seeing marlow be vulnerable. Um,

567
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: that's the Marlo that I know personally. She said, she's

568
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: a sweetheart and she does give back. So and one

569
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on her finally getting her peach. It's

570
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: well deserved. I met Marlowe season four and she checked

571
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: all the boxes of an Atlanta house. Why beautiful. I

572
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: had a lot of money, guess from a rich old

573
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: white man. But she had the money. She had who

574
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,479
Speaker 1: he was, by the way, it took us a little

575
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 1: bit he was his name? How shoot, I send it

576
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: on the group text. He was like the main guy

577
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: who was the president of CNN. No, so it was

578
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: rumored for a long time it was Ted Turner. Yes,

579
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: but that turned out to be That turned out to

580
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: be false. That was the rumor for so long. So no,

581
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: but I'm happy she had to Peacha. No, he just

582
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: made his rounds. Oh my gosh, I love it. Uh yeah,

583
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: um and then what okay, what are your thoughts with

584
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: with what's going on with Candy and her husband this season? Look,

585
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 1: I think we saw that storyline play over many times.

586
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: You know, the hard working vibe and the husband who

587
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: wants her to stay home and you know, oh I

588
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: want to indoor pool. Oh we have boxes of the

589
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: indoor pool. You know we we've seen that time and

590
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,959
Speaker 1: time again. I want to see something different at fresh

591
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 1: from them. Um. She's been on the shelf for twelve

592
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 1: years and I think it's time we got a freshen

593
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 1: of that storyline. Yeah, well I've been pretty hellow. When

594
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: she was on our podcast, she was lovely so nice.

595
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: Was like, you are talking to a well oiled like me. Yeah,

596
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: you weren't getting any crumbs. You weren't like there was

597
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: not a lot of expression. Yeah, did you like the

598
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: interview you had? Yeah? I mean, okay, it was I

599
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: thought it was fine. Like I I liked her. I

600
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: would want to hang out with her again. I just

601
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: felt like it was so polished that like here, I

602
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: feel like there are parts that we can all laugh

603
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: and it's light. Like it felt like having to like

604
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: sucked the information out of now. I think that she

605
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: just didn't feel comfortable, maybe because she didn't know us,

606
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: maybe so she didn't like some people like you. I

607
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: could talk to Carlos for the first time and be like,

608
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: oh I got like jokes we are. But maybe she's not.

609
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: Obviously she's not like that. No, she isn't. She isn't.

610
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: I work with her since the day she hopped on

611
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: on set. She it takes a while for her to

612
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: warm up to you. That's how I take a long time.

613
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 1: Whereas you know, when you watched like Cynthia on Girls Trip,

614
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: you saw a certain side of her, and then she

615
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: was on our podcast. Granted I got to know her

616
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: on Big Brother, but she was an open book and

617
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: like funny, and I saw a totally different side of

618
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: her than I ever saw on TV. Yes, yes, now

619
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: stay Fia. And that's another person who is underestimated because

620
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: I felt cheated not seeing Kenya and Cynthia address their

621
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: friendship based on what happened on Girls Trip, Like I

622
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: believe they let go of these people way too soon,

623
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: because why are they doing this? You know, listen, listen,

624
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: I can tell you what I think. I haven't worked

625
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 1: on those shows in five years. I think a lot

626
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: of times, unfortunately, people look at tweets and believe that's

627
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: what the audience wants. And as a producer, I have

628
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: a very successful show on the oper wom From network

629
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: called The Love and Marriage Franchise, and I think mon

630
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: needs go to come to your podcast toot. Yes, yes,

631
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: you're gonna love from this new show Love and Marriage DC.

632
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: But anyways, I have a big show on the oper

633
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: Wmfrey network. It's the number one show and people tweet

634
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: it trends every week. People talk so much trash about

635
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: my cast members and they tell me fire this person,

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Speaker 1: fire that person. I always say, if you are begging

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Speaker 1: for me to fire somebody, they must be doing something right,

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Speaker 1: because I don't want so many people on my show

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Speaker 1: that you love everybody and I think I think what's

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Speaker 1: happening lately. I think a lot of people are making

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Speaker 1: decisions based on Twitter, and that's the horrible think about it,

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Speaker 1: about it to everybody. I don't think about it. Now,

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Speaker 1: let's have a conversation girls, think about it. Think about

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Speaker 1: who's currently one show O C and Beallly Hills and

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Speaker 1: the ones they sort of let go. You're sort of like,

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Speaker 1: but why, like, what was the thought process in it?

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Speaker 1: People work? People are asking for me to be fired,

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Speaker 1: People were asking pretended to be fired. People were But

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Speaker 1: here's the thing, and this is we talked about this

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Speaker 1: on our last podcast. And it's not me like trying

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Speaker 1: to toot my own horn or tamera, but it's like,

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Speaker 1: no matter what we say, we're immediately trending. We're immediately

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Speaker 1: like It's it's like a it's a polarizing situation. You know,

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Speaker 1: people either love us or they hate us. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying I want to go back on Beverly Hills.

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Speaker 1: I want to do Girls Checked to be perfectly honest,

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Speaker 1: but I do think we have to get to the

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Speaker 1: point where we have to be honest with what we

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Speaker 1: want to watch. And I know that's the thing I

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Speaker 1: don't want to watch everybody getting along and exactly the

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Speaker 1: same and forcing fake drama. I want to I want

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Speaker 1: to see every different type of person. I want to

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Speaker 1: see the dynamic of what they show sought out to

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Speaker 1: be and it was these these interesting friendship groups and

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Speaker 1: the dynamic that came along with them being around each

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Speaker 1: other and even seeing like the alliances sort of like

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Speaker 1: form and and fall out based on being around each

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Speaker 1: other for so long. Um I it's funny because even

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Speaker 1: for Billy Hills, a lot of people are like, we

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Speaker 1: just want to see Crystal, Sutton and Garcela and I

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Speaker 1: love all three? What's a show with? The people are funny?

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Speaker 1: That's why you can't, I'm telling you. Unfortunately, people are

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Speaker 1: casting and making casting choices in my opinion, based on Twitter. Well,

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Speaker 1: then I guess I'm getting us back then because Twitter,

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Speaker 1: Twitter wants me back. Now they want to be gone,

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Speaker 1: but now they want me back, want me back. Twitter.

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Speaker 1: It's fine. I can't even breathe and Twitter, what would

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Speaker 1: you do with Orange? What would you do with Orange County?

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Speaker 1: Easy things? And you guys may disagree, that's fine, Bicky, Tamera, Heather, Shannon,

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Speaker 1: Regretchien and um, you can bring me a new person

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe maybe even too, maybe a new housewive. So

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Speaker 1: that's six housewives and a friend to the show. Emily

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Speaker 1: or Gina. Absolutely not, and I mean that with all respect.

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Speaker 1: I don't I'm not a mean person. I'm shady, but

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Speaker 1: I'm not mean. I love I loved Emily and Gina

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Speaker 1: the first season because it was nice to see a

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Speaker 1: different group coming to the Midst. But listen, I think

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Speaker 1: everyone had their time. I think Emily and Gina's times

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Speaker 1: are up, and I'm more interested in seeing Vicky, Tamera, Heather, Shannon,

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Speaker 1: Gretchen and a new housewife. I'll be down with that.

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Speaker 1: I would be happy to recap that I was so bored.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I hate boring, is like you know, my

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Speaker 1: trigger word. But I watching o C was honestly like

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Speaker 1: Saint Drive this year. So it was I stopped watching

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Speaker 1: after episode seven. Well I was I was done. I

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Speaker 1: was done with it. I did not watch the reunion. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well you didn't miss anything. Dr Jen didn't say one word.

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Speaker 1: It was shocker, not a word. There's a meme of

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Speaker 1: just her making the same similar type botox faces. But

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Speaker 1: we have one final question for you. When are we

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Speaker 1: both going to get to be on your show? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you have to be listening. You guys

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Speaker 1: understands I have Tamar on my show. It trended, people

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Speaker 1: were crazy for it is one of my highest um downloads.

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Speaker 1: I would love to have you two on and listen.

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Speaker 1: Are talking TV. We're talking TV show. Oh so my

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Speaker 1: nute late by show, The Night carlos Key is a

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Speaker 1: thirty minute after party talk show, variety show. Can't you

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Speaker 1: guys be on my show? Please? And I'm really asking

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Speaker 1: yes somehow I asked firstas like, I'm really yes, we

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Speaker 1: want to be we want to be. I texted about

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Speaker 1: it prior. I'm like, we need to be on his show.

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Speaker 1: She's like, I know. I'm like, but I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he shaated me to Dave Quinn. So we gotta

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Speaker 1: figure this out. No, I'm not. She doesn't let things

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Speaker 1: go easily. Be I promise you and I would be

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Speaker 1: honest if I was. I honestly, I am totally kidding,

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Speaker 1: but no, I would love to have you to on

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Speaker 1: and listen. I'm gonna be out in l A in

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Speaker 1: a few weeks. I'll text camera, let's do a group chat.

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Speaker 1: I would love to take you guys out to dinner.

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Speaker 1: Where's home for you now? Right now? I'm in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, I thought that's where we taped. That's where

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Speaker 1: we taped it like my show. Well, hell Monique, we

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Speaker 1: can't wait to record with her, and you gotta love her.

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Speaker 1: I loved her from the beginning, so I'm I was

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Speaker 1: like I stanyd Potomac. Potomac is my favorite home. Potomic

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Speaker 1: is one of the best. I tell people at the time,

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Speaker 1: the best current seasons is Beadly Hills Hotomic in this

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Speaker 1: past I mean no, it's still on this current season

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Speaker 1: of Jersey. Jersey is good. Jersey is good, but I

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Speaker 1: wish there was more episodes of Jersey. It's too quick.

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Speaker 1: I like it the way like, Okay, they can't afford Teresa, Honey,

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Speaker 1: I'm used to how much for joining us? We'll see

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Speaker 1: you to I got Carlos and Krack. Bye bye, m