WEBVTT - Rory & Mal Don't Know Ball | Elle Duncan 0:00:01.240 --> 0:00:01.880 The volume. 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:12.879 All right, Rory back for another episode of Don't Know Ball, 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:14.720 because we absolutely do not know ball. 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:16.279 Maybe maybe a little bit. Maybe. 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:19.000 Look, this is why this is why we have this show, 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:21.400 so we can bring in some of our friends and that. 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:22.720 Do know ball and they can help us out. 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:26.279 Today we are joined by someone who is very knowledgeable, 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:30.040 more knowledgeable than you and I both Comebin Yes, combined, 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:33.440 even with Google, right, even with our smartphones in our hands, 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:36.880 she knows more about ball than we do. ESPN host 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:42.960 anchor women's college basketball sideline reporter analyst. I mean, if 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:47.639 it's women's basketball, she's there. Welcome Elle duncan lle thank 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:49.159 you for joining us. 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:50.519 Clap studio audience. 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:51.920 You can't hit it. 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:54.840 By the way, you guys are doing it wrong. If 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:56.720 you're still googling, just pull up chat GPT. 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:00.680 Yeah, yeah, we get in this entire series, just like. 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:03.080 We can pull up chat chat GYT tell. 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:06.640 Us things we don't want to know about about basketball. 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:08.120 But you how are you doing? 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:10.600 I'm doing good, man. I'm a little bit tired. We 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:13.360 had the draft this week and I'm like in my 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:16.399 forties now, so I need like three or four days 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:17.880 to recover from one long night. 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:20.160 Is draft like this draft week like hell week for you? 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:23.440 Not really, because I was coming off like it's a 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:26.240 quick turnaround. I do college women's basketball. So we were 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:29.160 at the Final Four and then you know, five days later, 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:31.440 we're at the WNBA Draft because I also covered the 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.080 w NBA. So it's just like a it's like a 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:37.240 really long two months, but then I get a bit 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:38.959 of a break before the actual season starts. 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:43.120 I saw during the Final Four and everything, well the 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:45.479 lead up to the Final Four and women's college basketball, 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:48.800 I saw that you you had South Carolina when it 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:50.680 all you said that they had to be get the thrones. 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:52.600 I didn't know why. I mean, I get it. 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:54.520 I understand what coach Staley has been able to do, 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:57.400 and South Carolina is amazing, but coach orim I mean, 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:00.280 I mean Yukon, It's just like, how how do you 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:00.840 go against that? 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:04.560 Well, here's the thing, okay, mile, is that I've filled 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:07.120 out my bracket and then Yukon just decided to start 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:09.160 playing like Yukon in the tournament and I couldn't go 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:13.440 back from there. The reason I'm sort of like, in 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:15.400 the same way with football, it's like you always choose 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:17.639 the Chiefs until someone beats them. Now, the Eagles beat them, 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:19.600 so now we won't just assume that the Chiefs are 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:23.760 going to win again. But Don literally won a championship 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:27.399 after losing seventy percent of her offense. She lost all 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:31.280 of her starters and reloaded and won a championship and 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:34.560 went undefeated in the process. So I gave them the 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:36.720 benefit of the doubt. But there was not a single 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:38.680 team on this planet, maybe not even the Lakers, that 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:40.200 we're going to beat that Yukon team the way they 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:41.320 were playing period. 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:44.360 How important is it with coach Staley, the culture that 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:48.280 she's building in South Carolina? How important is that program 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:50.280 for women's college basketball. 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:53.560 What's funny is that Gino and Don have very similar 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:56.120 programs in terms of, like in this new nil world 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:59.880 where there's so much player empowerment, right, Like they can lead, 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:03.160 they can go. Do they come for money? They leave 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:06.880 for more money if you go to Yukon in South Carolina, 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:09.440 Like they're not really paying that much money. It's not 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:11.519 that they can't, it's that they're just sort of like, listen, 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.040 do you want to contend for national championship? Do you 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:15.760 want to be in the W and if you do 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:17.920 these two programs give you the best opportunity to do 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:20.880 both of those things. So it's really interesting because Dawn, 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:23.200 I mean, her leading scores came off the bench. Like 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:29.240 it's tough to convince young women who are becoming famous, 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:32.400 who are getting you know, nods from Steph Curry, who 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:35.280 are getting a ton of money and brand of marketing deals, 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:37.520 that they still need to come off the bench because 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:40.440 it's what's best for the program, because it's what's best 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:43.440 for the team. But I think talking to her team, 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:47.200 the reason that they do that is because specifically with 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:50.600 Down because she has literally walked that path, you know, 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:53.280 like she is a champion at it right, Like she's 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:56.960 she was a champion player. She didn't win in college, 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:59.920 but she was a National Player of the year, then 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:02.520 went onto the pros. She then went on and was 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:05.480 a Hall of Fame coach. She's won the Olympic gold medals. Like, 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:08.280 so they really see her as like a t t so, 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:10.760 you know, like a proud auntie and she really she 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.440 calls herself a dream merchant, but that's because she tries 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:15.280 to prepare them for more than just basketball. So they 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:18.640 just have such a respect for her she speaks their language, 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:21.960 she meets them where they're at, and I think that's 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:24.920 why they buy in. But the culture is why she's 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:29.400 so consistently in the conversation, even with a team that 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:32.360 did not have a Bona five super Starly this is 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:34.480 the first time don tried to win a national championship 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:36.440 without a Lotto pick. She won her first one with 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:38.800 Asia Wilson, the Asia Wilson right. She won her second 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:40.640 one with Leah Boston. She won her third one with 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:43.200 Kamilla Cardoso. They didn't have that this year, and they 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:45.000 still made the national championship. 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:48.760 Right now, over the years, I've been a fan of 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:53.200 women's basketball for years, watching Sue Bird here in New 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:57.440 York High School, Shamikah holes Claw, and a few other players. 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:02.120 The recent s of women's players. 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:06.080 What is happening though, because it's a different thing that's 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:08.720 happening now with women's Like they just a couple of 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:11.440 years ago to have a higher rated national championship game 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:14.240 than the men's championship game, which was when. 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:16.360 I found out that was crazy to mean, it's. 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:19.280 Play better tournament, And yeah, it seems like it's more 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:23.320 exciting to watch women's college basketball now. 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:25.960 Than ever before, Like, what is the cause of that? 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:29.720 Well, I think part of it is because in the 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:33.120 men's side, the really big players, the big names, they're 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:36.440 one and done, like they bounce right Cooper Flag's done, 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:39.520 he's out, Zion like all these big name sort of 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:42.400 superstars they leave. In the women's game, you have to 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.119 be twenty two years old the year of the draft 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.320 to lead, which means that in most cases we're getting 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:49.320 them for four years because of COVID. In some cases, 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:51.359 like with Paige Beckers, we're getting them for five years. 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:53.320 So I think you just you just get to know 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:56.279 them more, you root for them more. Like you. They 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:59.360 become household names, and IL has helped, Like they've got 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:02.720 incredible brand of marketing deals, they're better on social media, 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:05.120 so they're social media stars on top of what they're 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:07.240 doing on the court. And then I just think like 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:09.880 in general, the game has gotten better. We talked to 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:12.400 Geno about this. I asked him this last year, like, 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:14.480 what do you think it is, because he's, you know, 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:16.640 a legacy, he's an og and he was like, honestly, 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:20.120 I also think there's an appreciation for people meeting the 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:22.200 women where they're at, and he used the example of 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:25.200 Diana Tarasi like he was like when de was coming 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:30.120 through Yukon, everybody's comp was always right, like, she's like Kobe. 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:32.920 She's like a female Kobe. Of course that's why she's 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.679 the white mom. But he was like, now the comps 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:39.600 are she's like an Asia Wilson. She's like a Brianna Stewart, right, 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.320 And so they appreciate women's game for what it is, 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:44.840 as opposed to saying, well, I'd be more interested if 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:46.840 they dunked, or I'd be more interested if they did this. 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:49.279 I think there's just an appreciation for how they play more. 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:51.320 But I really do think it comes down to the 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:53.440 fact that you just watch them longer, like you watch 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:56.799 them for years. With Paige Becker's like you saw her journey. 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:58.400 You know how hard it was for her to win 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:01.880 that national championship. You were root for her. And in 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:04.000 the men's side, they just they bounced. I mean, most 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:06.520 of these big name superstars, we don't even remember where 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:08.080 they went to college because they were only there for 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:08.880 a calendar year. 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:09.440 I don't. 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:12.000 I was talking to somebody a few weeks ago, I said, 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:12.240 I don't. 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.480 I don't even can't name the. 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:17.840 Top five picks of the NBA Draft, Like, I really can't. 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:20.880 I can't. I can't name the top five picks. 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:22.840 And that's probably the first time in years that I 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:25.640 could actually say I cannot name the top five picks 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:26.680 in the NBA Draft. 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:29.840 I'm with you, I can name Cooper Flag. But you know, 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.720 I'm all like I always joke whenever someone's like, and 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:34.800 who's your pick on the men's side, I'm like, men 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:35.760 play basketball. 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:39.760 I don't know how long How long do you think 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:43.000 before or do you ever think that they will try 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:45.960 that with men's basketball, where they would actually, you know, 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:48.600 have the players stay not and not do one and done. 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:50.160 Do you think that will ever happen? 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:52.680 Because I mean, this is a business, and if they 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:57.040 start to see the ratings and viewership slip more than 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.480 it already has, I can see them getting to a 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:01.320 point where they're like, we have to do something to 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.320 keep these players at these universities for more than a year. 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:08.120 Yeah, I mean I actually think even though existentially, like 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:10.840 for me, you know this big boogeyman of nil that 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:13.640 everybody always bitches and complains about, Like, I get it. 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:15.840 If you are a program, if you're a coach. 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:16.000 It's tough. 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:17.600 It is tough because like as soon as someone says 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:19.600 something you don't like or plays you in a way 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:21.640 you don't like, they can bounce. And I understand that 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:24.840 there's a lot they didn't regulate it at all, or 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.000 they regulated it too much and then it turned into 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:30.160 the wild wild West. As a fan, I think it's great. 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:32.600 Like I love the fact it's so much drama. Right, 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:34.960 We've never had like a real off season in college sports, 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:38.120 so the idea that you know, the kid in Tennessee 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:40.040 is like, I'll want more money and they're like, we'll 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:41.880 call your bluff. You can fuck off. Like, I think 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:42.560 it's exciting. 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:42.920 Yeah. 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:47.120 I also think NIL helps with some players because they 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.040 don't they don't want to leave right, Like they know 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:51.240 that if they're going to be a late first round pick, 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:53.480 they could probably make. Look at Drew Timmy that you 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:56.960 just felt like twenty five years in college basketball, but 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.479 it's because he knew there was a lot more opportunity 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:03.000 for him staying in college. So I think that is 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.400 going to help some of these dudes that you know 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:08.560 are maybe fringe like lotto picks, decide to stay another 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:11.000 year or take their talent somewhere else and get more money. 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:14.400 But I mean they've tried it now, right, Like I remember, 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:16.080 you know when it was you could come straight from 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.440 high school, and then they regulated that because they felt 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:20.839 like it was making college irrelevant. And then they went 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:22.520 into the one and done and now we're back to 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:26.040 the it's making college irrelevant. But ultimately, it's just really 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:29.960 hard to tell these players who are coming out for 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.480 the most part, the top players are coming out somewhat 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:35.439 pro ready. It's hard to tell them, like to force 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:37.360 them to stay in college when they know they can 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:40.080 make so much bank in the NBA. So I don't 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:42.800 know that there's a regulation that's coming. Adam Silver's talked 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:46.360 about that, the NCAA's talked about that, and ultimately it's 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:48.640 really up to the if they think they've got to 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:50.880 flat on their hands. No, they got one year, it's 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:52.400 like make it or break it is. 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:55.720 This is it now. I'm not mad at the NIO. 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:59.400 I think that, you know, we should be paying these 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:01.520 collegiate as athletes, especially with all of the money that 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:05.160 they bring these universities. I absolutely hate the transfer portal though, 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:09.320 I think that is a problem. Like I one, I 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:12.480 don't understand it and to us like why do we 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:12.920 have that? 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:14.360 Like you know what I mean, like, why what do 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:14.640 you dis. 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:15.120 Like about it? 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:18.439 Because I think that it's It's almost like if I 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:22.560 go to university, I commit to a university and I 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:24.920 get there and say I'm not playing well, I don't 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:27.200 like the coach as somebody that you know has a 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:29.920 scholarship or doesn't have a walk on places out plays me. 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:32.160 He has more playing time than me. Now I can 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:35.360 just decide that, oh, I'm going to transfer. I just 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:37.200 don't agree with that. I just think that that's I 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:40.000 think that has the potential to kill college. 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:42.360 Not that there was a transfer portal, say when Cam 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:44.240 Newton was there, but we could have got a better 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:47.160 Cam Newton if he could have left Florida immediately and 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:50.120 went to Auburn rather than like one and a half years, 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:53.040 Like he could have really had four years of greatness 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:55.840 instead of just sitting behind Tim Tebow stealing laptops. 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:58.120 Yeah, but I don't know. I just I just think 0:10:58.160 --> 0:10:58.480 that it. 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:02.880 Just gives players, I want to say, like an out, 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.520 like the first thing that they don't like. The coach 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.160 does this says that doesn't like the offense, I'm out 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:10.640 of here. I'm transferring. It's like I just don't agree 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:13.160 with the transporter. I think that that's like you. 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:14.720 Should have to sit out a full year. 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.880 I believe, yeah, like how it used to be. I mean, 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:19.680 here's what I would say to you about that, because 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:21.080 I hear that a lot. And like I said, if 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.080 you're a coach, I get it. The transfer portal has 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:25.439 retired some coaches. They're like, I want to deal with it, 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.720 this is it's a new breed of player and whatnot. 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:31.720 But I would also say that like you can apply 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:34.600 that to literally anything in life, like even go to 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:37.320 the pros, like their player impoundment now is just saying okay, 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:39.440 I'll set out I just won't participate until you give 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:40.679 me more money, until you trade me. 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:43.720 That's true. But something some would say that that's ruining 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:44.800 the NBA as well. 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:48.000 Though, and that's fine. I think it comes down to 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:51.160 I don't want to say it comes down to character, 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:53.080 as if you have bad character, if you choose to 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:56.679 do it. I was raised that like when you start something, 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:59.440 you finish it. You don't quit period. You finish something, 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:00.800 and then if if you don't want to do it 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:02.240 at the end of it. Again, you don't have to 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.800 sign back up, but that you don't quit things, and 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:08.080 so existentially, I will never be that person. That's just 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:11.240 who I am, and that's sort of like my moral base. 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:13.200 And I think there are plenty of players who feel 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:15.679 the same way, who say, Okay, I'm still going to 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:17.760 stay with this program because I made a commitment to 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:19.839 them and they made a commitment to me. I just 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:23.000 think people are motivated by different things. And you know, frankly, 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:27.520 like I said before, they this is on the conference. 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:29.480 This is on the conferences in the leagues. Because they 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:33.520 went so long with punishing people for having you know, 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:36.640 a McDonald's meal paid for by a booster could cost 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.400 you your eligibility. They went so long doing that crap 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:43.440 that then Congress had to get involved, and Congress didn't 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:45.880 know anything else sports, so they were like, cool, wheels 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:49.160 are off, go at. They completely deregulated everything when the 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:52.679 NCAA could have got ahead of this years ago, and 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:55.520 instead they waited and they waited and they waited and 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:57.400 they waited, and they put it in somebody else's hands 0:12:57.440 --> 0:13:00.240 and now they're upset, but ultimately like this, this is 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:02.960 the new reality I'm with you. I mean, I think 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:06.199 it was something like on the first day of eligibility 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:09.000 there was like twelve hundred people in the transfer portal, 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:14.080 Like that's that's that's bano. So we also have to 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:18.160 stop looking at college as an amateur sport. It's not anymore. 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:20.760 It's a professional league at this point. I think they 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:22.400 need to make it that way. They need to have 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:24.920 a commissioner. They need to allow these people to have, like, 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:27.040 you know, the agents that they have, and treat it 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:29.600 as a professional league, because that's essentially where we. 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:35.480 Are in covering women's college basketball. You're there early for 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:37.560 shoot around, you're in the locker rooms, et cetera. How 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:39.480 bad is the music taste of these young people. 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:45.439 It's like, I feel like I'm in a constant TikTok video. 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:47.000 So hard. 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.840 You're in the tiktoka constantly. 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.079 It's just and then sometimes you'll realize you are in 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:56.000 a TikTok video. You know, you'll see him synchronizing and 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:58.040 doing the dance. I'm like, wow, we're here. It's not 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:02.840 It's not great. I mean, I like every kind of music, 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:04.680 Like music is very much my shit. I had a 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:08.040 musical background. I started in hip hop radio in Atlanta, 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:10.480 And if I wasn't doing sports, frankly, I would be 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:13.720 doing something in the music world, maybe music supervisor or something. 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:16.840 I love music, but I also feel like some of 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:20.000 the music needs to like make you feel something, and 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.720 like the mumble rap and the TikTok songs, I. 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:24.520 Don't see somebody's artists. 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:26.640 Somebody's artists need to get into transfer portal. That's what 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:30.840 transfer out of music. Transfer out of that music makes 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:32.280 you feel something, it makes you feel stupid. 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.120 Yeah, absolutely fair. 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:36.360 I will say the wildest shoot around I was ever 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:38.760 at though, cause like, for the most part, right for 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:40.720 the most part, especially in the basketball world, they're listening 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:42.120 to a lot of hip hop, you know, and even 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:44.240 if it's not particularly my type of hip hop, it's 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:47.560 like SoundCloud hip hop, it's still hip hop. Like it's 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:49.160 still you know, it's still got some thumb. 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:49.640 Yeah. 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:51.360 I went to shoot around a couple of years ago 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:55.680 at Iowa. Kaylen Clark was there and they were blasting 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:57.960 Taylor swiftest shoot around, and I was like, this feels 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:02.160 very apropos Like I've never really seen anybody lean all 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:05.920 the way in. He comes from the hostile music for page, 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.280 but for the most part, it's all the same consistent thing. 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:10.760 What music did you listen to coming up in Atlanta? 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:14.640 Oh Man, Well, you know, I don't know how. I 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:17.040 don't know how Atlanta I can go. But like I 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:20.280 was raised on like kil and Raheem the Dream and 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:24.440 I mean, but I'm wearing an outcast shirt shirt. 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:24.880 Yeah. 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:30.720 Always. But my parents were always really had like a 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:33.320 really diverse sort of discography too, if you will, and 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:35.800 their tastes were varied. So I also grew up on 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:38.120 a lot of like, like my favorite artists still to 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:41.080 this day is Sam Cook, I love Stevie Wonders, so 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:44.400 all the classics. But I think what's cool about Atlanta 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:47.000 is it's such a melting pot. And I was candidly 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:51.240 raised in the suburbs of Atlanta, which if you don't know, 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:54.040 when you drive thirty miles outside of Atlanta, you drive 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:59.200 thirty miles back into time. And so I also grew 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:02.080 up on a lot of like alternative music and rock music, 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:04.040 and you know, I might have had a little bit 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:07.000 of a metal moment for a time being. So I 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:08.880 think that's where it came from, is just this melting 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:11.720 pot of like you know, whistle while you twerk, and 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:13.400 then we would like hit you with a little Green 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:13.840 Day too. 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:16.120 Oh no, we were just talking about Green Day a 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.480 couple of days ago, like and OJ that juice Love 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:21.200 Love Green Day, Huge, Green Day. Yo. 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:24.920 OJ's ad libs were just so great. I mean, just 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:26.320 the best. 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:29.120 Nicest person too. What you were saying so so. 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:30.880 So you had a time where you would we could 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:33.120 catch l at hot topic in the all getting like 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:37.520 some outfits, some some shirts like heavy metal I got 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:38.320 the Outcast shirt? 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:39.120 Was that hot topic? 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:46.760 This is one hundred percent Spencer's gifts. Absolutely, I had. 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:48.800 I had a little moment with like system of a 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:53.400 down Yeah, yeah, where I just want you know, you're 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:56.240 young and you're angry for no reason. Uh like literally 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:58.440 lived behind a farm. There was no reason to be angry, 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:01.840 so I just had to manufacture anger. So metal music 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:02.400 did that for me. 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.680 Do you remember like the exact time when Outcast kind 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:07.520 of popped and entered into the world. 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:08.159 What was that like? 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:12.040 Yeah, I mean I was actually in middle school and 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:14.720 at the time we had just moved from Atlanta to Florida, 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.680 brief three year stint, very forgettable, but we were living 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:22.240 in Jacksonville and I had heard Elevators and I was like, 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:26.320 what's this and I then I started falling into the 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:29.040 rabbit hole. Obviously it was more difficult back then. You 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:31.240 couldn't just hop on Spotify, so I had to start 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:34.800 buying CD singles. But that's when I like went back 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:36.880 in time and you know, picked him back up with 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:41.600 Southern playlistic. But I think what really made Outcast pop 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:44.760 was like the Source Awards, you know, with saying that 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:46.359 the South had something to say, was when it was 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:49.280 like yes, because you know, New York and LA had 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:52.680 dominated hip hop at that point and nobody took Southern 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.639 rappers seriously. It was part of music. It was rhem, 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:58.480 the dream. It was you know, like Uncle Lucash like, 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:00.600 it was that kind of like, you know, Black Pack. 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:04.080 I was hoping I can get this Black Pack reference 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:07.359 in and I think for me, so for me, it 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:08.880 was like middle school. But I really think the Source 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:11.760 Awards is when people were like, these young fellas do 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:13.639 have something to say? Interesting? 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:16.680 And at the same time, what was I guess the 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:21.360 wave like with TLC happening around then Jermaine Dupree starting out, 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:22.560 what was the energy like then? 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:28.040 Yeah, so fire. I love JD. I actually saw JD 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:30.199 a couple of years ago after a Super Bowl. I 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:31.800 was like, damn, man, why'd you dress like se Lo? 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:33.320 He did a little bit a little like Sei Leo, 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:39.560 right thought everybody did, but they were like they brought Selo, 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:43.720 let's go. But like Goodie Mob was very much my 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:46.600 ship at the time, and it was it was great 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:48.520 because we had TLC who were like our R and 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:50.600 B queens, but then we had all of you know, 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:53.760 Jermaine Dupree was really starting to put us on the map. 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:56.879 Like Luda. I think people sort of gloss over Luda's 0:18:56.880 --> 0:18:59.520 contributions to hip hop. I get it, he's like fun rap, 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:02.240 but like Luda was huge for us. You know, he 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:05.320 was more mainstream than even Outcast was at the time. 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:07.720 And then just sort of like his wordplay and his 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:10.160 fun energy. I mean, they still play Move, Bitch, get 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:12.640 out the Way at Falcons games every time they get 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:15.639 a first down. And so it was it was like 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:20.200 such an amazing time to be in Atlanta. I remember 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:22.760 like having you know, my cousins, my family's from Denver, 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:25.359 and they would be like, can you can you like 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:28.640 record on the radio? Got a few of young listeners 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:30.680 or viewers. I'm sure they're like what you used to 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:32.879 have to press record and play at the same time 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:35.800 on your on your tapes, and I would make them 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:37.879 mixtapes and I would send them to them because they 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:41.480 were getting music. Eight nine, ten months later that we 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:43.840 were debuting in Atlanta. It was quite a time Freaknick 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:45.720 was popping at the time, like it was was too 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:46.119 young for that. 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:51.080 All right, listen Elle, you referenced Luke, You reference Luke, 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:52.920 and now you reference the Freaknik. 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:55.719 Is there anything you wanted? Trailers and Jacksonville. 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:58.040 JD is doing a Freaknick documentary. Are we going to 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:01.560 see l somewhere in the background walking past a camera? Like, 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:03.360 just let us know now so we don't be as 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:04.439 surprised when we see it. 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:05.800 No, I was. 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:10.359 For I am so fortunate that Freaknick was really pretty 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:13.840 much waning out by the time I hit like college, 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:16.280 but it was it was definitely very prevalent in middle 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:18.440 and high school for me. My first introduction to Freaknick, 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:20.640 my dad had to take because anybody that was from 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:24.080 there knew, like, you stay away from downtown Atlanta during Freaknick, unless, 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:26.560 of course you're participating, but we had to go. I 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:29.760 had theater camp downtown and so my dad had to 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:34.359 take me exact problem. And I just remember my dad 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:37.960 being like, cover your eyes, close your eyes because it 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:40.240 was I mean it was it was going down. And 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:42.800 then in high school, this guy comes up to me 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:44.959 in class. We were in Spanish class. His name was Shannon. 0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:46.720 I'll never forget this. He comes up to me. He's like, 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:48.600 let me show you something, you know, And this is 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:50.280 when we just had like digital cameras, were gonna have 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:52.919 like cell phones with that digital cameras, And he was like, 0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:57.679 take a look, and he shows me a video he 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:01.320 had taken on his digital camera of some folks getting 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:04.960 at popping while just just driving down Peachtree in the 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:07.600 back of a truck with everyone like watching. And I 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:11.480 was like, is this what's happening thirty miles from now 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:12.639 here downtown? 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:17.960 Like absolutely, yeah, you were practicing othello while you're doing that, right, I'm. 0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:19.880 Over here doing Shakespeare and they're shaking that ass, they're 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:23.520 shaking out. I love to remind some people, many of 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:25.760 which you are from Atlanta or from the surrounding areas. 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:28.000 I'm like, some of you came about because of freakniks. 0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:28.840 So yeah, for. 0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:31.199 Sure, absolutely absolutely. 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:32.680 And they're carrying on the tradition just without the festival 0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:33.720 exactly correct. 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:37.400 El So, you being so close to women's college basketball 0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:42.359 and actually seeing these women up close and personal, who 0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:46.399 is the one player that people don't talk about a 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:49.439 lot that you feel like will be a star at 0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:50.200 the next level? 0:21:50.800 --> 0:21:54.400 Ooh, someone people don't talk about a lot. I mean, 0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:59.320 you know, the thing about women's college basketball is, even 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:01.280 though the parody is gone a lot better, there's still 0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:04.840 really only like six or seven teams that I think 0:22:05.920 --> 0:22:09.840 are really like contenders every year. And of those six 0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:12.000 or seven teams, there's probably like three or four that 0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:15.720 I think are our you know, next level or generational 0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:18.560 or transformational. So most people sort of know them. But 0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:22.160 I think someone that is is really going to take 0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:25.160 not just because of her play, but because of everything 0:22:25.200 --> 0:22:27.000 that she represents that's really going to take the next 0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:31.720 level by storm is Flage Johnson at LSU. Because we 0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:33.880 know that these young women have to navigate a lot, 0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:36.680 and they're balancing being student athletes and now being brands 0:22:36.680 --> 0:22:39.520 because of nil, but she's like a whole ass rapper 0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:43.040 and performer, like she'll go do a performance somewhere and 0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:45.480 then she'll find where their closest jim is and she'll 0:22:45.520 --> 0:22:49.760 work out for LSU. She's a champion. I think Flage 0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:52.800 is like she's gonna be you know, we see you know, 0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:55.880 some dudes in the NBA and their careers fizzle out 0:22:56.320 --> 0:23:00.520 and they end up having hits that I don't know why. 0:23:00.600 --> 0:23:02.840 I'm so sorry. I don't I don't get it. Jello, 0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:04.400 I don't like Elle. 0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:06.439 I love you, I love you already, ell Ell, I 0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:06.879 love you. 0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:10.919 I'm like you guys are one of those songs that, 0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:13.320 like it starts out, you're like, oh, this is fun, 0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:16.400 and then after about thirty seconds, it's like, because that's 0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:16.800 all you. 0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:18.800 Need, and that's all you need for all you need 0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:20.840 for TikTok is twenty seconds. 0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:21.280 All you need for streaming. 0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:22.920 Yeah, that's all that's all you need. 0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:25.400 So they're making these songs that just have this moment 0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:27.520 within the song and people like that's a hit. 0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:28.800 I'm like, no, it's not. 0:23:28.880 --> 0:23:30.439 It's certified gold as yesterday. 0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:33.080 It's a terrible record, terrible, terrible record. 0:23:33.160 --> 0:23:35.920 Well it's not a good record, it's it's just it's 0:23:35.920 --> 0:23:37.840 one of those that like yeah, Like, if you're a DJ, 0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:40.119 it's fun. You play it for the crowd for thirty 0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:41.920 seconds and then you move on. Nobody wants to listen 0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:43.240 to that shit from beginning to end. 0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:43.760 Nobody. 0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:45.879 I'll agree with you there, I'm definitely not listening to 0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:46.720 that entire record. 0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:47.680 I do like it in the. 0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:50.200 Middle of a set for you know, thirty seconds at most. 0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:53.720 But his follow up with Gloilla was one of the 0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:55.000 worst songs I've ever heard. 0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:58.639 Because he because he's not a real artist. He's not 0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:00.000 a rapper, he's not a real artist. 0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:00.719 That's why. 0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:07.200 Yes, And like the actual she's an actual artist. Like 0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:09.159 I think that's why Flage is dope, because like, you know, 0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:11.560 a lot of these dudes rap and they're bored. You know, 0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:13.960 Damian lillarpoill hop on a mic, and like I think 0:24:14.040 --> 0:24:20.960 Dame's actually not bad. Yeah, Dame can rap, but it's 0:24:21.000 --> 0:24:25.359 it's a it's a hobby. Like Flage really wants basketball 0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:27.600 and music to like sort of both be her careers, 0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:30.240 and she has the talent to do that. So I 0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:32.119 just think, I think at the next level, Like I 0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:33.960 just think she's going to be an absolute So. 0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:34.720 She's a star already. 0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:38.400 I can't open X without seeing a flage ad. I'm like, yo, 0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:40.080 she is she in school? Like they just have a 0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:44.119 work doing ads all day. On X you said you 0:24:44.160 --> 0:24:48.560 did theater as a kid Atlanta Radio. Did you ever 0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:52.000 try to rap? There's no way you did. 0:24:53.240 --> 0:24:56.280 Absolutely not. My my rap style, I describe it as 0:24:56.320 --> 0:24:58.840 like a mix of like Fergie and Kesh. It's very 0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:01.679 white girl rap, like I need. It needs to be slow, 0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:04.719 you know. I woke up in the morning like I 0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:09.119 won't say his name. Yeah, it's been like very so methodical, 0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:11.120 which is why when everybody was shitting on snap music, 0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:12.200 I was like, I love that shit. 0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:14.119 I all along to the easy Pocket. 0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:19.520 Yeah, it's like ABC one two three raps. I never 0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:22.119 tried to rap, but I did. Rory have a very 0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:26.640 brief encounter as a singer. I got a record deal 0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:31.359 when I was nineteen, and the deal was it the 0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:34.080 deal put TLC's deal to Shane. Just to tell you 0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:37.040 how bad that deal was, Like they wanted to own 0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:40.280 my name and perpetuity for like my life, like it was. 0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:42.760 They didn't negotiate with ESPN just now. 0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:47.280 They would still be making money off of me doing 0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:51.760 something that's not music related and I released like I 0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:54.520 had like some songs I put together like an EP, 0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:57.359 and I went and I performed for the first time. 0:25:58.000 --> 0:25:59.560 I was gonta do a live performance for the first 0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:02.680 time with original music at this club in Atlanta at 0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:05.600 the time called the Chili Pepper, and I had backup 0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:08.760 dancers and like all this stuff. And it was so 0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:12.320 bad that my own parents couldn't even lie to me, 0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:14.520 like they like when I came off stage, I was like, 0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:17.680 how did I do? And they were just like, You're 0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:19.000 so brave. 0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:24.440 It's so brave, such a brave soul. 0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:26.399 What went wrong? What? 0:26:26.720 --> 0:26:28.960 It just was bad? Like, you know what I realized. 0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:32.919 I realized that having a decent voice and that I 0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:35.680 love because I loved music so much, I thought, well, 0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:37.800 because I love music, and people keep telling me I 0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:40.240 have a decent voice, like I should do something in 0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:42.199 this space. And I think what I realized was that 0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:44.439 you can have like a passion and you can like 0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:46.840 enjoy something and that does not mean that you have 0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:49.040 what it takes to make it a profession. Like just 0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:51.520 because you like making beats and that's a great creative 0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:54.359 outlet for you, does not mean that, like you're the 0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:56.560 next DJ Mustard, Like, I just it just doesn't do 0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:58.439 you know what I'm saying, And like, there's a whole 0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:03.240 lot more that goes into being a music artist then 0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:07.040 generally liking writing songs, and like, there's just a lot 0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:08.560 more that goes into it. And I realized that at 0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:10.560 the time, but it was just it was the dancing. 0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:14.640 It was the singing on key to a backup track. 0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:15.560 Key is important. 0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:18.000 On key is important because you can sing, but are 0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:20.399 you on key tune on it exactly? 0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:22.560 And I discovered that, like I am the Queen of 0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:25.960 Shower Records, Like in the Shower, it's not like with 0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:29.840 the acoustics, yeah right, Like I'm fucking Whitney Houston. But 0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:32.679 you you put me with like ears in and it 0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:35.359 doesn't go particularly well. So I just keep it to 0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:36.920 karaoke at this point. 0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:45.359 So Paige Beckers, she is the real deal. I like 0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:48.520 her game. Where do you have her? As far as 0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:50.760 what she will be able to do for the WNBA. 0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:54.360 We saw what Caitlin and Angels rivalry and they're back 0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:57.800 and forth kind of help to elevate the audience of 0:27:57.840 --> 0:27:58.400 the WNBA. 0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:01.320 Do you think Page comes in and adds to that. 0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:04.600 Yeah, She's definitely a ratings driver. I mean, listen, let's 0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:06.640 just be real. There's no one like Caitlyn Clark. Like 0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:10.879 there's like there just isn't There's no one, there's no rivalry. 0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:14.040 I think that's fresh on people's minds. That's bigger than 0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:16.560 Angel Rees versus Kaitlin Clark. It's why their matchups always 0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:19.760 do so well. But Paige Becker's Like the thing about 0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:22.960 Page is that someone was asking me this the other day. 0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:26.720 They were like, this idea that the space is being 0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:30.560 dominated by like a white woman, and it worked really 0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:33.760 well for Caitlin because she's so freakin good and also 0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:37.320 helped that like mainstream America, you know, could relate to 0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:40.160 her and see, you know, their daughters and her. Why 0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:44.440 didn't we have that same you know, astronomical effect with Page. 0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:48.160 And the thing is is that, like Paige Becker's is 0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:51.040 the best way to describe her is a very un 0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:54.120 sexy word, and that is efficient, Like there is not 0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:57.400 a smarter basketball player in terms of Page almost never 0:28:57.440 --> 0:29:02.480 takes the wrong shot. She is is so incredibly efficient, 0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:05.920 Like she was like on the precipice of like a 0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:08.600 season where she was shooting at least fifty percent from 0:29:08.600 --> 0:29:11.040 the field, at least forty percent from three, and was 0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:13.680 shooting ninety percent from the free throw line. She's a 0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:15.680 great two way player. She's a hell of a defender, 0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:17.800 She's a facilitator. She can bring the ball up, she 0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:22.960 can create. But she's very deferential, like Page is, such 0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:28.040 as she doesn't love the like is a superstar, she's 0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:30.120 the Queen of Riz Like. She's just as charismatic in 0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:33.120 person as you see on social media, but she's also 0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:35.960 very much about Like if you ever hear her talk, 0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:38.040 all she does talk about her teamates, it's always about 0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:42.040 other people, other people, other people. She doesn't love to 0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:45.440 sort of own and embrace this superstar thing, and I 0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:48.040 think that that's maybe why we didn't see the same. 0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:49.840 I also think that there was a lot of stop 0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:52.040 and start to her career because of the injuries. Like 0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:54.480 Paige was the original Caitlin in terms of height. She 0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:57.560 was the Gatorade National Player of the Year in high school, 0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:00.240 COVID ruined her chance of winning a state champ being 0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:03.400 ship She's the first and still only freshman ever to 0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:05.680 win National Player of the Year. And there was just 0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:09.200 this groundswell of like yo, this is the one, and 0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:11.680 then she got hurt, right, and then she got hurt again, 0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:14.400 and then all of her teammates got her. And I 0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:16.400 think because of sort of the stop and start is 0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:19.040 why we didn't see those same sort of like bananas 0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:23.400 numbers that we saw with Caitlin Clark. But she is 0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:27.920 absolutely the real deal, Like she is so incredible also 0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:31.560 at navigating the space, because the w space is yes, 0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:36.080 about the basketball, but also about the conversation and narratives 0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:39.120 around it, and I think that Page navigates that in 0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:41.920 such a smart way and it's incredibly authentic, Like she 0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:44.720 understands and respects that this was a league that was 0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:48.160 born and bred on the backs of black women, queer women, 0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:50.840 and that they always have had the same attention and 0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:54.200 commercial appeal, and she uses every opportunity she can to 0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:58.240 thank them, to show them gratitude, to pay homage to them. 0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:02.120 So she's she's gonna be She's gonna be amazing. Am 0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:03.840 I do I expect that we're going to see, you know, 0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:06.200 seven million viewers every time she steps on the court. 0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:09.320 Maybe not, but in terms of just sheer talent, who 0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:11.440 she is as a person, and then her social media 0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:14.680 you know, outreach she's a superstar. 0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:19.480 How do you feel the first takes and just morning 0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:22.400 debate shows have affected the legacy of Sports Center? 0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:29.320 Hmm, well, I mean I think in general, there's been 0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:31.640 a lot of debate about like do we embrace debate? 0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:34.000 Are we tired of debate? Sports Ower is one of 0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:35.680 those like tried and true. When I first started working 0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:38.280 at ESPN, they were like, sports Owner is such a 0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:41.520 recognized brand that some people don't even associate it with ESPN, 0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:44.400 Like they think it's its own thing. And Sports Center 0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:48.000 has also seen some like different machinations right where like 0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:52.160 it was very to start, was very newsy. It was 0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:54.600 very you know, you give the highlights, you give the facts, 0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:57.400 like there's no and then like people like Stuart Scott 0:31:57.480 --> 0:31:59.840 came in and they brought in cultural references and they 0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:02.560 made it more fun and interesting and they used you know, 0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:05.440 one liners to sort of tell the story of sports. 0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:07.640 And now I think that the Sports Owner that I 0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:11.600 work at is cool because it allows for any type 0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:14.440 of personality to be who they want to be. Like 0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:18.480 fifteen years ago, probably a sports center was never going 0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:20.920 to let someone like me write a monologue where I 0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:22.960 just roast people like I do on taking the l 0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:27.640 right or allow the fandom. You know, I bark because 0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:30.160 I'm a Georgia Bulldog fan whenever I can, Like, I 0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:33.360 don't think it was embraced or appreciated in the same way, 0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:36.000 and I'd like to believe that the debate shows have 0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:39.480 helped in that way. I think that it allows like 0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:42.000 I get to do first take. There would have been 0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:45.040 a time where it would have been nonsensical to put 0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:47.280 a sports center anchor on a debate show, because the 0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:49.680 whole point is, it's not about you, it's not about 0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:52.080 your opinion, it doesn't matter what you think. And so 0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:55.880 I think that a place like ESPN and the first 0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:57.320 takes of the world and they get up to the 0:32:57.360 --> 0:32:59.480 world's has just allowed people to sort of see us 0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:02.400 a little bit more than just what the specific role is. 0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:04.840 And so I like to believe that I'm a sports 0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:09.480 center anchor and then some and so you know, ultimately, 0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:12.440 like we're sort of damned if we do and damned 0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:14.680 if we don't. Sometimes at ESPN, you just go full 0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:17.280 highlights and people go, well, I can get that on 0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:19.240 my phone. That's stupid. Why would I just come to 0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:22.040 you for highlights? That's stupid. You talk too much and 0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:24.400 then they go, we want our highlights. It's like you really, like, 0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:28.520 you really can't win, And so ultimately it works like 0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:32.200 people that bitch and complain about first take like tell 0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:34.040 that to the ratings, tell that to the interest, to 0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:36.520 the intrigue, like it's a it's a formula that's working, 0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:38.320 and so they're going to keep doing it and like that. 0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:40.600 It just is what it is. But ultimately, like if 0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:43.240 you don't like a debate show, we also offer you 0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:44.320 other options as well. 0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:47.760 What's something you want to add to Sports Center that's 0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:48.479 not currently there? 0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:51.280 Something I want to add to Sports Center? 0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:55.040 More baseball highlights, yeah for sure. 0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:59.760 Yeah, golf, yeah, more golf in general. Yeah, you know, 0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:02.840 I would say that, like speaking for my Sports Center 0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:05.880 because it's a one hour show and then when you 0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:08.480 account for commercials, it's a forty minute show. What I 0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:11.080 would love for Sports Center to be able to have 0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:13.880 more of but it's kind of impossible based on the formula. 0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:16.200 It's just more time to let shit breathe, you know, 0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:19.800 like more time to have a guest on and not 0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:22.440 dedicate three minutes to them, Like if the conversation is 0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:25.640 going really well, being able to have more opportunity to 0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:28.520 expound or to dig in a little deeper on things. 0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:31.000 But that's just not really what we're working with, Like 0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:33.560 we're trying to give you all of the news or 0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:37.880 table set everything that's coming up amongst the four major sports, 0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:41.759 including women's basketball, including men's basketball. Like, it's just it's 0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:44.400 a lot. I wish that there was a little bit 0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:47.719 more space to just when called for a freestyle a bit. 0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:50.560 How do you feel about some. 0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:53.000 Of the biggest stars in the WNBA being able to 0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:56.080 make more money in unrival than. 0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:57.239 The actual league? 0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:02.080 Yeah, I mean I think that it It's fortunately short term, 0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:04.200 you know, the new CBA is coming up, this is 0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:06.399 the last year under this current CBA. They will get 0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:10.200 an exponential raise. Of course, it's unfortunate. You know, it's 0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:14.440 when you see that like Caitlin Clark, Paige Becker's Angel 0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:17.200 Reese making seventy two thousand dollars a year and their 0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:20.400 you know, first year, Like I'm pretty sure that's what 0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:23.480 like the team manager is making on an NBA team, right, Like, 0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:28.560 So that's that's wild. I appreciate that Unrivaled was started 0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:31.880 by w NBA players with the FISA, Collier and Brianna Stewart, 0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:38.000 because they understand a what their worth is and their value, 0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:40.640 but they also understand that the money is in being 0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:43.040 an initial investor. And that was what I thought was 0:35:43.080 --> 0:35:45.320 the cool thing with Unrivaled. It wasn't just another league 0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:47.960 where they were promising to pay more people. It was 0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:50.080 a league where you could come in as an initial investor. 0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:53.880 So you're profiting off of a direct profit off of 0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:58.520 the ratings, the viewership, Jersey sales, ticket sales, Like you're 0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:00.400 getting a piece of all of that tech. You are 0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:02.520 in the CBA as well, but it's just such a 0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:05.800 small piece. So it gave these women an opportunity to 0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:08.719 have a business venture on top of being able to 0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:12.120 stay in this country not have to play internationally. It 0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:15.400 was a breeding ground for free agents, Like they got 0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:17.080 to play with people, They got to talk to people 0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:19.840 in Miami. From what I understand, like that's how some 0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:21.960 of these deals came about, is someone like hollering as 0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:23.600 someone and being like, Yo, you need to join us 0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:25.560 in Connecticut, you need to join us in New York. 0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:28.000 And so from all the women that I've talked to, 0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:31.040 they absolutely love it and the ratings were great despite 0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:33.040 the fact they didn't have some of the bigger, bigger 0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:35.680 names like an Asia Wilson or a Caitlin Clark Page 0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:38.400 signed on to do three years of it. So that's amazing. 0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:41.560 But I mean it's great to have competition, Like for 0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:44.000 so long in the women's space, it's basically been you 0:36:44.080 --> 0:36:45.800 get what you get and you don't get upset. And 0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:49.000 that's because there is no competition, right, Like there's one 0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:51.840 media company that does your games, there's one league that 0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:54.520 does your games, and so like you just have to 0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:57.480 get what you get because you really don't have any 0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:00.040 other options unless you want to go to Russia, and 0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:01.280 who wants to go to Russia? 0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:05.400 So any time there's compensation, that just drives the price up, 0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:08.120 right exactly, What's what's something you would change if you 0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:08.840 were the commissioner? 0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:10.560 Ooh? 0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:14.360 I mean, well, you know that's a tough one because 0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:16.200 the things that I think should change in the w 0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:19.799 R counter intuitive to what a commissioner would want, right 0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:22.680 paying them. Yeah, but I think you know what I 0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:25.120 would do is I would level the playing field more 0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:31.040 in terms of the facilities and because right now you 0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:33.560 still have the haves and have nots, like when you're 0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:36.000 a free agent and you're deciding and like, listen, it's 0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:38.919 with all sports. Some facilities facilities are nicer than others, 0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:41.600 and we get it, but they're in general is a baseline, 0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:44.360 right Like, there is a baseline of like, you can't 0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:47.239 have these women in a rat infested gym, right Like, 0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:50.280 there's like and I'm not saying that that's what's happening, 0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:53.200 but across men's sports, there's a baseline. You have to 0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:55.600 have certain nutrition, you have to have certain you know, 0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:58.640 number of staff that's and that's not there right now. 0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:00.320 So it's kind of like, okay, if if you go 0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:03.040 to the aces and you're in you're in great shape, 0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:05.239 right because Mark Davis really believes in the product, so 0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:07.400 we spends a ton of money. You're at Golden State, 0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:10.759 they're brand new, but like the Lake ups like they care, 0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:12.600 so they're going to spend a bunch of money. But 0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:14.439 let's say you want to go play for a team 0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:16.759 because you think their roster is incredible, but you also 0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.680 know that your facilities are trash like, so I would 0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:23.040 start with making a baseline that is better in general 0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:27.040 for them in terms of facilities. They're asking for insurance 0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:29.560 after they retire, which is like something that you should 0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:32.520 be able to do. The last CBA was really historic 0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:36.440 in terms of, like, you know, women have babies. It's 0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:38.719 a thing. I hope I'm not sharing something new with you, 0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:41.840 Ria Maw, but women have babies, so like what is 0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:46.439 it right? Like protections during pregnancy, how long it takes 0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:48.040 for them to get back onto the court, like all 0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:49.840 of those things I would take into consideration, but I 0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:52.560 would definitely start with the facilities and how they travel. 0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:56.000 And the charters were new last year, and again it's 0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:58.000 quine of one of those things where it was like, Okay, 0:38:58.040 --> 0:39:02.319 it's better than commercial for sure. However, I've also heard 0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:06.560 that some of these planes are basically like Southwest Plains, 0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:09.520 Like they're not they're not necessarily like the lap of 0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:11.960 luxury planes that you would expect on like a chartered 0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:14.200 you know, I've been on charters with the Red Sox 0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:18.760 and you know their lux like they're they're nice, nice, 0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:22.520 nice planes. Some of these planes don't even recline, you know. 0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:25.120 And these are tall women who are traveling across country, 0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:26.360 So just that kind of stuff. 0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:28.759 We had a Lexi Brown on the show and she 0:39:28.960 --> 0:39:31.319 just got traded from LA to Seattle, and the first 0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:32.800 thing she said was, well, at least they'll have a 0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:36.480 practice gym. Now she had no practice gym in Los Angeles, 0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:43.560 which is crazy Los Angeles, right, Kansas, Right, that's crazy. 0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:43.799 Right. 0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:45.400 So when you're thinking about where you want to go, 0:39:45.600 --> 0:39:46.480 like do you want to go to the place that 0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:47.920 has not a practice gym or the place that has 0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:50.960 a practice gym and like a cryogenic chamber, like. 0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:54.399 You know, a shower and an ice bath at least, yeah, 0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:55.360 can you imagine? 0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:57.880 Now we had We also had one of your other calls, 0:39:57.920 --> 0:40:01.719 Andrea on and the other day were watching Rich Paul 0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:05.280 and he said he said he even feel like Miami 0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:07.480 was the Big Three because he even feel like Chris 0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:10.640 Bosh was part of the Big Three. Now you Andrea, 0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:12.720 and I don't want to butcher her name is it Shane? 0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:13.839 Yeah? 0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:20.920 Sam, y'all have been dubbed the Big Three? How important 0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:22.600 do you think it is what y'all are doing? Because 0:40:22.600 --> 0:40:25.200 I do think that y'all are building a type of 0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:29.960 culture and analyst and over at ESPN. How important and 0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:31.759 how much fun do y'all have doing what y'all doing? 0:40:31.800 --> 0:40:35.000 Because I'm starting to see clips of y'all everywhere having 0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:37.359 fun in the studio, and the way that y'all talk 0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:39.120 about the game and break it down and give it 0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:42.920 to somebody who is not really into women's sports like myself, 0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:45.360 but have followed it, y'all make it more, you know, 0:40:45.520 --> 0:40:46.719 palatable for somebody like me. 0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:49.160 How important is that for y'all and what y'all are building. 0:40:49.800 --> 0:40:52.080 We appreciate that. I mean, I think that's the point now, 0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:54.600 is that, like, you know, you got two ogs like 0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:57.800 Drea play in Tennessee. Chaney is a Stanford Hall of 0:40:57.880 --> 0:41:00.400 Famer and was a former number one overall pick, so 0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:02.560 they've been in it. But then you have someone like 0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:05.480 me who came into the space four seasons ago. I mean, 0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:07.759 I've obviously always been a fan of women's sports in general. 0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:10.040 I was a softball player in my whole life, but 0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:13.080 I wasn't in this space. And the beautiful part about 0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:16.120 growing and expanding a fan base is that there needs 0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:19.120 to be room for the novices who are learning. And 0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:22.360 I think what Cheney and Andrea do incredibly well is 0:41:22.480 --> 0:41:25.120 that while they could talk over your head about basketball, 0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:29.040 they make it digestible. They show you all the joy 0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:32.399 that they have in talking about it, and the joy 0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:35.160 that they had in playing it. They know these players 0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:39.000 so incredibly well. They either played with them or they 0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:42.200 mentor them. And I just think that, like, if you 0:41:42.480 --> 0:41:45.520 love the WNBA, if you love women's college basketball and 0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:48.320 you've been around since its inception, then they're for you, 0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:50.520 and we hope that we're for you. But if you're 0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:52.600 brand new and you're just trying to learn and you 0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:55.120 just want to know, like who should I be watching? Okay, 0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:57.640 apart from like Paige Becker's, who else on the team 0:41:57.719 --> 0:42:01.280 is really important if you want to see why ucon 0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:04.480 went on that ridiculous run and won the national championship, 0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:06.480 Like if you just want and then on top of that, 0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:09.239 if you just want to see three women who really 0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:12.080 enjoy each other's company and roast each other and look 0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:14.480 at each other like sisters. And you know, I come 0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:16.520 up with my one liners because I'm certainly not going 0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:19.040 to match them in terms of basketball acumen. Like, I 0:42:19.160 --> 0:42:20.919 just think that we try to bring as much fun 0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:23.880 as we can because this space is really fun. And 0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:27.759 the thing that's most important to me is that our 0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:31.080 relationship translates on air because we are always like that 0:42:31.200 --> 0:42:34.080 if the camera stops rolling, we don't stop acting that way. 0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:37.320 It's just that, you know, we have an opportunity to 0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:40.399 share our relationship with everybody, and it's been great. It's 0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:42.960 been one of the most rewarding experiences of my career 0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:45.960 because it's two women that I respect so much and 0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:48.000 we all want each other to win, and that can 0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:51.719 be difficult. Like I've worked with people before, and your 0:42:51.840 --> 0:42:55.160 job is to have chemistry and sometimes you have to 0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:58.200 fake it. And you know, my greatest like gift is 0:42:58.239 --> 0:43:00.080 when I've worked with someone who I can't stay and 0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:02.200 people will come up to me and be like, are 0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:04.560 you guys best friends? Because you just seem like you 0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:08.600 love each other. I'm like, she smiles through her teeth, 0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:12.280 And in this case, I don't have to fake the chemistry, 0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:15.000 the joy, the love, the respect. Like it's all been great. 0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:17.080 It was a funny story. 0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:20.880 I was driving in Manhattan one day and I'm turning 0:43:20.920 --> 0:43:25.320 on like thirty twenty ninth Street, I think, and I 0:43:25.480 --> 0:43:27.840 was texting, texting and turning at the same time. But 0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:29.759 I was trying to tell my friend that I was 0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:32.600 pulling up in front of the building to come downstairs, 0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:35.279 and I look up. I had to slam on the 0:43:35.320 --> 0:43:38.400 brakes almost hit somebody and she yells, you fucking idiot, 0:43:38.960 --> 0:43:41.200 and it was Swing Cash, and I wanted to say, 0:43:41.880 --> 0:43:43.520 I wanted to say I'm a big fan, but I 0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:47.280 didn't think that was the right the right time to yoh. 0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:48.920 You got swin to cuss at you because she's so 0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:49.759 chill and. 0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:53.560 Like, no, what I like? Yeah, I almost hit, like 0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:55.919 I'm turning slow, but like she had the right away 0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:58.399 to walk And I looked up and it was Swing 0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:00.000 Cash and she was just yelling like what are you. 0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:02.479 I was like, I wanted to say, I'm sorry, Swim, 0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:03.400 I'm a huge fan, but. 0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:04.800 That wasn't the right time to do that. 0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:07.120 Yeah, that probably was not the right wasn't the right 0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:10.240 time you almost murdered her, But yeah, I'm glad you didn't. 0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:15.400 We did an Atlanta album versus with pac Man Jones, 0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:17.759 another Atlanta resident, and I figured we could bring that 0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:20.160 segment back with you. Since you are a music person 0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:24.120 and from Atlanta. You have to pick an album between 0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:27.719 each of these artists. You can't say, booth. We'll start 0:44:27.760 --> 0:44:30.360 with Outcasts. Since you have the shirt on Aty Aliens 0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:31.680 or Equemini. 0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:35.919 Equimini, are you answer that quick? Chunky Fire Chunky Fire 0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:38.040 is my favorite Outcast song of all time. 0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:39.279 Okay, I'm with you. 0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:42.520 I'd probably still lean on eighty aliens. 0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:43.080 But it is tough. 0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:45.200 You said that with the quickness God damn. 0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:48.160 Yeah, I mean Equimini. Just to me, it's like a 0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:50.120 Noe Skips album. Literally, I will listen to it from 0:44:50.160 --> 0:44:50.680 beginning to end. 0:44:52.080 --> 0:44:54.480 Ludacris back for the first time versus Chicken and Beer. 0:44:55.160 --> 0:44:59.000 Chicken and Beer only because only because there was a 0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:01.560 personal story there. I was working at the time at 0:45:01.960 --> 0:45:06.479 gladyson Ron's Chicken and Waffles. Do you remember that franchise? Okay, 0:45:07.040 --> 0:45:10.360 So I'm working there as a hostess, and they Luda 0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:14.719 had his like album listening party at gladyson Ron's. It 0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:16.719 was the first time I ever met him. I'm cool 0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:18.960 with Luda, like we're homies now, like he's the best 0:45:19.000 --> 0:45:21.680 I love Shaka, but at the time, I just was 0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:23.759 so starstruck and I just remember hearing it for the 0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:26.440 first time while he was playing and watching him like 0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:29.080 rap along while he was having chicken and waffles. So 0:45:29.160 --> 0:45:31.200 I'm going chicken and waffles just for nostalgia. 0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:33.080 Yeah, and he was a radio host too, so I 0:45:33.120 --> 0:45:35.359 see I see the collection back for the first time 0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:36.280 is underrated. 0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:38.479 But I'm going chicken in beer as well. Yeah gz 0:45:38.640 --> 0:45:42.359 TM one on one versus the Recession, ooh, TM one 0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:44.640 on one, Yeah, that's kind of yeah, that's that's that's 0:45:44.719 --> 0:45:47.279 you can't you can't go against it. The recession is 0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:47.680 there though. 0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:50.080 This was a good album, but it was a good album. 0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:52.160 The TM one on one is the is the album. 0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:53.759 This is one of the toughest to me. T I 0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:54.880 Trap Music Verse King. 0:45:55.719 --> 0:46:01.920 Oh Okay. Again, at the time, I was doing Atlanta Radio, 0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:04.440 so we were doing some events with t I at 0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:09.600 the time, and like did his album release party for King. 0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:12.880 So I'm gonna go with King, just because of the nostalgia. 0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:15.200 Like I have a horrible memory, and I listened to 0:46:15.360 --> 0:46:18.640 music specifically when I'm in moments to help me remember 0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:22.120 those moments. And I just like I can distinctly remember, 0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:24.640 like so much of my life at that time wrapped 0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:25.799 up with King. So I'm gonna go King. 0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:27.480 Do you have any crazy stories from when you were 0:46:27.480 --> 0:46:30.560 working at the radio station? Oh god, especially around that 0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:33.360 time in Atlanta, was so many Well. 0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:35.640 Okay, So I have a funny Kanye story which. 0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:40.200 Is, Oh my god, the world if you're on Twitter, 0:46:40.239 --> 0:46:40.440 you have. 0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:45.040 One fair fair although what he's doing now isn't exactly funny, 0:46:45.200 --> 0:46:49.360 more so disgusting and deplorable, but you're right, right. So 0:46:49.520 --> 0:46:52.320 we were the last radio station at the time to 0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:56.800 add gold Digger, Okay, the very last one, and I 0:46:56.800 --> 0:46:58.719 don't know why RPD just decided we weren't going to 0:46:58.760 --> 0:47:01.080 add the song, so we ad gold Digger. Of course, 0:47:01.120 --> 0:47:03.200 gold Digger is a huge smash it. Kanye comes on 0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:07.800 our radio show and he has clearly been told or 0:47:07.960 --> 0:47:11.040 knows that we were the last hip hop major hip hop. 0:47:11.239 --> 0:47:14.080 He probably researched himself, of course he did. 0:47:14.640 --> 0:47:19.440 So there's just this like there's just this contentious like 0:47:19.920 --> 0:47:23.279 attitude with everything that we're doing, you know, and the 0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:25.640 man was truly like at the time, I was like, man, 0:47:25.719 --> 0:47:29.080 this man is truly eccentric. Right, Like now I would 0:47:29.080 --> 0:47:31.080 describe him in some other words, but at the time, 0:47:31.600 --> 0:47:34.000 eccentric kept coming to mind. You know, he just would 0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:37.640 He was very add and I can relate. I'm add two. 0:47:37.719 --> 0:47:40.160 But like you could literally be like, Kanye, do you 0:47:40.200 --> 0:47:42.600 want like a coke or anything? And he'd be like, no, 0:47:42.680 --> 0:47:44.960 I don't want to coke, but coke is refreshing. It's 0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:47.680 refreshing like a Fanta, although Fanta commercials are not that 0:47:47.800 --> 0:47:49.480 good because it was just like, what the fuck are 0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:50.040 you talking about? 0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:50.799 So he was the first. 0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:56.840 We just and how they hallucinate the same thing and 0:47:57.040 --> 0:47:59.520 so so, so the interview is over, it's like all 0:47:59.600 --> 0:48:02.160 over the he's being He's like jumping behind, He's just 0:48:02.239 --> 0:48:04.600 being Kanye. And so finally we get to a point 0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:06.520 where we're like, it's time to do the radio drops, right, 0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:08.360 and like, for people that are listening that don't know, 0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:10.200 I know, y'all know, the radio drop is you know, yo, 0:48:10.320 --> 0:48:12.239 you're listening to Rory and Mao on B one o 0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:14.800 three whatever it is. So it's time for him to 0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:17.640 do the drops. And this is where he decides he's 0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:21.200 going to bring up that we were the last. So 0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:24.280 so every drop is like, Yo, what's up? You're listening 0:48:24.320 --> 0:48:26.040 to V one o three? Or he's like, Yo, what's 0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:29.359 up this Kanye West? You listening to V one o three? Yeah? 0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:31.160 I mean, I guess you should listen to them. Even 0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:33.359 though they didn't want to play my stuff, even though 0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:35.080 they didn't want to play gold Digger, even though they 0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:37.720 didn't see it, that's cool, though it's fine. It's whatever. 0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:42.520 You're listening. We're like, all right, can you try it again? 0:48:42.680 --> 0:48:43.360 Kanye n. 0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:48.360 No, it's perfect, Yo, what's up? 0:48:48.480 --> 0:48:51.040 This is Kanye West. I mean you know, you listen 0:48:51.120 --> 0:48:52.040 in the bitch Ass V one. 0:48:52.080 --> 0:48:57.719 OK, Like, oh my god, bro, you listen in the 0:48:57.760 --> 0:48:58.560 bitch Ass V one. 0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:02.000 O three was but to be honest, if you have 0:49:02.120 --> 0:49:04.160 time for one more story, rest in peace to the 0:49:04.200 --> 0:49:08.000 greatest DMX. My favorite radio drop story of all time 0:49:08.120 --> 0:49:12.319 was X because X comes up to our radio station, which, 0:49:12.400 --> 0:49:15.880 by the way, is located right on Peachtree Street in 0:49:16.000 --> 0:49:18.320 Colony Square, which, if you've been to Atlanta, is a 0:49:18.680 --> 0:49:22.719 main thoroughfare. He shows up with every rough rider in 0:49:22.840 --> 0:49:27.200 the southeast. They are blocking traffic, like there's people everywhere. 0:49:27.280 --> 0:49:30.040 It's just it's Madison chaos everywhere. So it comes up 0:49:30.040 --> 0:49:32.960 to the radio station and he's great, and we're you know, 0:49:33.120 --> 0:49:35.080 we're doing our interview or whatever, and it comes time 0:49:35.120 --> 0:49:37.680 for him to do the drops. So my little intern 0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:40.640 comes in and hands him the sheet right with everything 0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:42.320 that he needs to say and his name on it, 0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:45.000 even though he could have figured out the name part right. 0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:48.279 So he goes to start, Yo, what's up? This isn't 0:49:48.960 --> 0:49:52.480 and he stops and he's like, Yo, what the fuck 0:49:52.600 --> 0:49:55.759 is this? And we were like what and he's like, 0:49:56.040 --> 0:49:57.960 what the fuck is this? And he turns a paper 0:49:58.000 --> 0:49:59.840 and he's like, you put fucking little EG. 0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:01.560 I looked like a little X. 0:50:01.760 --> 0:50:04.520 You is a big X. That ain't no fuck, I'm 0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:05.560 not a little X. 0:50:05.880 --> 0:50:06.759 You need to fix it. 0:50:06.880 --> 0:50:09.680 And we were like, can you just can you just 0:50:09.840 --> 0:50:11.759 like say it though, because like, no one's gonna see 0:50:11.800 --> 0:50:14.239 the paper. This is just a reference for you. I 0:50:14.360 --> 0:50:17.080 want you to change it. And he's like, he's pissed 0:50:17.160 --> 0:50:20.120 because we somebody did a typo and they did capital D, 0:50:20.320 --> 0:50:23.520 capital M, lowercase X, and he would not let it slide. 0:50:23.560 --> 0:50:26.120 So we have never lowercase the X. You never lowercase 0:50:26.160 --> 0:50:26.560 the X. 0:50:26.920 --> 0:50:30.279 Ever, Brett. So we had to wait reprint it, and 0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:31.920 then he was like this is better, and then he 0:50:31.960 --> 0:50:33.399 did it great. 0:50:33.400 --> 0:50:35.279 Wait, that's even crazy, because when you were saying it, 0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:37.839 I thought maybe someone confused him with the director little 0:50:37.960 --> 0:50:38.399 X or something. 0:50:38.680 --> 0:50:41.520 It was just a lower case lower case X. 0:50:43.080 --> 0:50:46.000 They were just typing it really quickly, and because he 0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:47.880 asked for it to be like written out and he 0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:51.160 and then they accidentally made a typo and the intern 0:50:51.400 --> 0:50:53.160 was humiliated and embarrassed. 0:50:54.640 --> 0:50:54.960 All right. 0:50:55.000 --> 0:50:57.239 Before before we get to our don'no ball questions, just 0:50:57.680 --> 0:51:01.480 quickly have a few more future fifty six nights Verse Hendrix, 0:51:02.120 --> 0:51:07.480 now Hendrix, same young Thug, Jeffrey or Barter six Jeffrey 0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:13.879 Usher Confessions or eighty seven oh one, Oh Confessions I'm 0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:14.640 Leana eighty seven. 0:51:14.640 --> 0:51:16.839 I I like that you kind of hesitated with that one. 0:51:17.000 --> 0:51:18.960 You thought about eighty seven oh one. 0:51:18.840 --> 0:51:20.319 A little bit, I did. 0:51:20.440 --> 0:51:22.479 I mean, I love eighty seven oh one, but again 0:51:22.880 --> 0:51:24.680 professions radio nostalgia. 0:51:24.960 --> 0:51:27.319 Yeah, yeah, eighty seven on one is still a note 0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:29.680 skip classic to me though, But yes, do we want 0:51:29.719 --> 0:51:31.680 to start or don't know trivia questions? 0:51:32.400 --> 0:51:32.719 All right? 0:51:32.800 --> 0:51:35.440 Yeah, so, Lle, we have some questions to see how 0:51:35.560 --> 0:51:37.520 much ball we don't know, But we also have some 0:51:37.680 --> 0:51:40.120 questions for you to see how much music even though 0:51:40.280 --> 0:51:43.399 I mean, Lle, she's fucking she's shop all the way around. 0:51:43.400 --> 0:51:46.040 I don't know if we're gonna be able to yeahoth categories. 0:51:46.320 --> 0:51:48.320 This is gonna be pretty bad for us, But we 0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:50.560 have some questions for you. So we're gonna ask you 0:51:50.640 --> 0:51:53.200 a question, you'll answer, and then you'll ask us a 0:51:53.280 --> 0:51:56.440 question about Ball to see exactly how much Rory and Maul. 0:51:56.360 --> 0:51:57.799 Do not know about Ball. 0:51:57.920 --> 0:52:01.320 So the first question l before the stage name he 0:52:01.480 --> 0:52:06.120 has now Anderson Pac released two albums under the alias 0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:11.960 of A Breeze love Joy, b Obe C Brandon Anderson 0:52:12.160 --> 0:52:13.120 or d Oasis. 0:52:13.960 --> 0:52:20.600 Oh wow, I don't know this one, I'll I wouldn't. No, 0:52:20.920 --> 0:52:22.200 I only know him as Anderson? 0:52:22.560 --> 0:52:22.719 Was it? 0:52:23.400 --> 0:52:26.920 Answer is A Breezy love Joy? Wow? 0:52:27.120 --> 0:52:31.080 That actually feels Yeah, that's. 0:52:30.880 --> 0:52:32.040 Not like the name of the next album. 0:52:33.760 --> 0:52:33.960 Yeah. 0:52:34.480 --> 0:52:35.879 What's your favorite Anderson back album? 0:52:37.120 --> 0:52:37.239 Uh? 0:52:37.719 --> 0:52:39.640 Venice, Okay, I'm with you. 0:52:39.680 --> 0:52:40.239 The great album. 0:52:40.280 --> 0:52:42.920 What'd you think about the Silk Sonic Project? I loved it. 0:52:43.000 --> 0:52:47.160 I actually saw them live in Vegas and I dropped 0:52:47.200 --> 0:52:48.799 several bags to go see it. I was a little 0:52:48.800 --> 0:52:50.359 pissed at first, and then I was pissed when they 0:52:50.360 --> 0:52:52.000 told me to put my phone away, And by the 0:52:52.120 --> 0:52:54.080 end of it, I was like, this was the I've 0:52:54.160 --> 0:52:58.719 just never seen anybody sing and perform their heart out 0:52:58.880 --> 0:53:00.760 like that for two and a hour half straight hours 0:53:00.800 --> 0:53:02.120 like it was. I was into it. 0:53:02.440 --> 0:53:04.600 We can we can cut this if your agent gets upset. 0:53:04.960 --> 0:53:07.160 Who do you think did more cocaine in the studio 0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:10.000 Bruno Mars or Anderson pac during the making of that project. 0:53:10.520 --> 0:53:13.680 Bruno, for sure. I didn't I feel like you. 0:53:13.880 --> 0:53:16.440 Are selling Anders short on his cocaine ability. 0:53:16.520 --> 0:53:18.320 No, I think she knows Bruno's cocaine. 0:53:18.360 --> 0:53:19.200 What does he have high. 0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:22.280 More about Bruno's. 0:53:22.200 --> 0:53:24.160 Yeah she no, No, you could look at Bruno and 0:53:24.239 --> 0:53:25.680 just tell like now he probably just you. 0:53:25.719 --> 0:53:28.000 Know, that project was not for the love of soul music. 0:53:28.080 --> 0:53:28.920 It was for the love of coke. 0:53:29.000 --> 0:53:31.200 That's not the same coke dealer. Yeah, but that's you know, 0:53:31.360 --> 0:53:33.759 music in cocohen and that's their an R. You know 0:53:33.840 --> 0:53:35.840 how that is all right, so you can ask us. 0:53:37.680 --> 0:53:41.240 All right, here's your question. In twenty twenty four, Caitlin 0:53:41.280 --> 0:53:44.400 Clark became the all time leading score in NCAA women's 0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:47.560 basketball history. Whose record did she break? Was it a 0:53:47.800 --> 0:53:51.560 Don Staley, b Kelsey Plumb, Ce, Candice Parker or de 0:53:51.800 --> 0:53:54.120 Maya Moore? This is a sneaky one. 0:53:55.560 --> 0:54:01.360 Uh shit, I'm a work seems too obvious. 0:54:01.520 --> 0:54:02.759 I'm gonna go d Maya Moore. 0:54:03.640 --> 0:54:06.279 Okay, I'm gonna steal Mall's answer. I'm gonna go d 0:54:06.400 --> 0:54:07.439 as well. We'll be wrong together. 0:54:08.160 --> 0:54:09.920 Yeah, the answer is actually Kelsey. 0:54:09.680 --> 0:54:12.640 Plumb really never got Yeah. 0:54:12.960 --> 0:54:15.799 Yeah, she was at Washington and she got a whole 0:54:15.880 --> 0:54:16.520 lot of points. 0:54:16.719 --> 0:54:17.279 Like she was. 0:54:17.640 --> 0:54:19.239 She was up there racking up points. Yep. 0:54:19.719 --> 0:54:22.160 Wow, go Kelsey. I didn't know that as well. Yeah, 0:54:22.800 --> 0:54:23.120 all right. 0:54:23.160 --> 0:54:26.799 Our second question, what Gucci Man feature performed the best 0:54:26.960 --> 0:54:29.520 on the Billboard Hot one hundred. Was it a Party, 0:54:29.840 --> 0:54:33.200 B Steady Movin C, Black Beatles or d wake Up 0:54:33.280 --> 0:54:33.759 in the Sky? 0:54:35.239 --> 0:54:37.000 Oh? I love that song. By the way, whenever people 0:54:37.000 --> 0:54:38.640 ask me what my walk up song would be if 0:54:38.680 --> 0:54:40.480 I was a baseball player, I say that even though 0:54:40.520 --> 0:54:45.800 it's about waking up stoned, I suppose, if you know me, 0:54:45.960 --> 0:54:49.960 is pretty appropriate. Coo. I don't know. I feel like 0:54:50.000 --> 0:54:54.440 it's probably some maybe because Gucci, like Gucci's my guy, 0:54:54.520 --> 0:54:57.320 by the way, I love Gucci, but his music is 0:54:57.480 --> 0:55:00.600 not that mainstream, so I'll say because it was with 0:55:00.680 --> 0:55:02.160 Bruno Mars, maybe wake Up in the Sky. 0:55:03.080 --> 0:55:07.480 No, it was see Black Beatles. Really Yeah, that one 0:55:07.560 --> 0:55:09.760 actually shocked me as well. Did you watch the GZ 0:55:10.160 --> 0:55:12.880 and Gucci Man versus during of. 0:55:12.880 --> 0:55:17.000 Course I did, and again like I love Gez, like 0:55:17.080 --> 0:55:19.360 I dropped a GZ reference at the final four. I 0:55:19.520 --> 0:55:23.200 love Gez, but I am a I'm like a Gucci girl, 0:55:23.400 --> 0:55:25.239 like I like I'm a dog is like one of 0:55:25.320 --> 0:55:27.600 my favorite songs of all time. I'm a treat to 0:55:27.760 --> 0:55:30.800 like a dog. I'm a come on man. And so 0:55:31.040 --> 0:55:33.320 I'm maybe the only person that thought he won. 0:55:36.600 --> 0:55:36.880 Smoke. 0:55:37.120 --> 0:55:40.040 I was like, hey, let's go Gucci, come on man, 0:55:40.360 --> 0:55:41.600 We're definitely one. 0:55:41.880 --> 0:55:44.719 Ignorant New Yorkers. I was watching that, like, why is 0:55:44.760 --> 0:55:47.920 this a matchup? Like why would anyone even think that Gucci? 0:55:48.360 --> 0:55:48.560 I was. 0:55:48.680 --> 0:55:50.960 I was more so concerned that the security concerns in 0:55:51.000 --> 0:55:52.840 the buildings, like why would they have these two gentlemen 0:55:53.120 --> 0:55:54.719 so close on the stage to each other? 0:55:54.800 --> 0:55:56.640 Like I just didn't think that was a safe thing 0:55:56.680 --> 0:55:56.840 to do. 0:55:56.960 --> 0:55:58.839 But the matchup goes much deeper than music. 0:55:58.960 --> 0:56:00.000 Yeah, there was much deep. 0:56:00.239 --> 0:56:02.320 Yeah, there's some there's some real animals over there. But 0:56:02.360 --> 0:56:03.319 I'm always gonna ride. 0:56:03.239 --> 0:56:07.440 With Do you do you think, in fact, Gucci is 0:56:07.520 --> 0:56:07.920 a clone? 0:56:10.920 --> 0:56:12.640 Is that a rumor that he's a clone? 0:56:12.760 --> 0:56:12.920 Yeah? 0:56:13.000 --> 0:56:14.480 When he got out of jail, he looked like a 0:56:14.520 --> 0:56:17.640 completely different human being, Like the before and after looked 0:56:17.760 --> 0:56:19.200 like some telemarketer. 0:56:19.400 --> 0:56:20.960 Well that's what happens when you're locked up and you 0:56:21.040 --> 0:56:22.280 have you on the strict diet. 0:56:22.160 --> 0:56:24.000 Of you know you thank you, you got nothing to 0:56:24.080 --> 0:56:26.879 do all you're doing in federal prison. 0:56:26.960 --> 0:56:29.440 No, but when you stop eating all the bullshit, your 0:56:29.480 --> 0:56:30.319 skin kind of you know. 0:56:30.440 --> 0:56:33.280 Jail is where you're start eating healthy, a little little healthier, 0:56:33.360 --> 0:56:34.279 little healthier and jury. 0:56:34.320 --> 0:56:37.000 You're not drinking, you're not smoking, you're not late night snacking. 0:56:37.080 --> 0:56:39.000 I mean, you know these artists are in the studio late, 0:56:39.040 --> 0:56:41.440 they're eating meals at three am. Like all he did 0:56:41.600 --> 0:56:46.520 was work out. I listen. I knew Gucci before and after. 0:56:46.680 --> 0:56:48.239 I remember when you would talk to Gucci and he 0:56:48.239 --> 0:56:51.000 would rub that big fat Santa belly. I believe that 0:56:51.040 --> 0:56:51.920 he's not a clone at all. 0:56:52.000 --> 0:56:52.120 Now. 0:56:52.160 --> 0:56:54.640 The teeth sometimes I'm like, bro, we need to scale 0:56:54.680 --> 0:56:56.759 that down a little bit, like that is not a 0:56:56.880 --> 0:56:57.879 natural shade of teeth. 0:56:58.800 --> 0:57:01.640 He definitely got the excels for sure, got the mediums. 0:57:03.239 --> 0:57:04.160 It's on you, right, all right. 0:57:04.840 --> 0:57:08.520 My question, which w NBA superstar holds the record with 0:57:08.680 --> 0:57:11.680 two other teammates for the most n c A A 0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:15.839 Championships won by a player. Is it a Sabrinian Escu, 0:57:16.440 --> 0:57:20.520 b Cheryl Miller, cee Asia Wilson or de Brianna Stewart 0:57:22.600 --> 0:57:26.160 what was B again B with Cheryl Miller. I'm going 0:57:26.240 --> 0:57:28.680 to give you a hint. This person literally won four 0:57:29.040 --> 0:57:31.040 national championships in a row. Four. 0:57:32.240 --> 0:57:33.400 It has to be b Stuart. 0:57:34.680 --> 0:57:36.720 No, is that your answer? 0:57:36.760 --> 0:57:37.800 I'm going Brianna Stewart. 0:57:37.840 --> 0:57:38.680 I'm going Brianna too. 0:57:39.120 --> 0:57:41.680 Yeah, got it in your face. Them all was right 0:57:41.720 --> 0:57:43.240 when he said it. So yeah, that was not going 0:57:43.320 --> 0:57:43.480 to be. 0:57:45.480 --> 0:57:47.720 That's that's you, because that sounds like you can even 0:57:47.760 --> 0:57:51.960 though Cheryl, what Cheryl was doing was absolutely just you know, 0:57:52.120 --> 0:57:54.760 that was insane. I saw a clip of her talking 0:57:54.760 --> 0:57:58.840 about when she came home and Reggie had had a 0:57:58.920 --> 0:58:00.680 good game. I think he had like thirty six or 0:58:00.760 --> 0:58:03.200 thirty eight, and so he was kind of hype coming home. 0:58:03.920 --> 0:58:05.920 And that was the day that Cheryl had one hundred 0:58:05.960 --> 0:58:11.480 and something and he was he came in and she was, Yeah, 0:58:11.600 --> 0:58:13.840 she came and came in and he was hyping. Cheryl 0:58:13.920 --> 0:58:16.120 was already home, sitting there and he's like, yo, so 0:58:16.200 --> 0:58:16.480 what's up? 0:58:16.520 --> 0:58:17.200 What did you do today? 0:58:17.840 --> 0:58:19.600 He was like, at that point, I think she had 0:58:19.600 --> 0:58:22.200 a sixty point game, already had a seventy. She was 0:58:22.240 --> 0:58:25.080 throwing out some numbers that I was like, she's casually saying, yeah, 0:58:25.120 --> 0:58:27.000 I had sixty before, I had seventy before. 0:58:27.520 --> 0:58:29.040 And so Reggie was sitting there like, so, what did 0:58:29.040 --> 0:58:31.240 you do today? She was like, you know, one hundred? 0:58:31.280 --> 0:58:33.120 And he was like what did he just see you through? 0:58:33.160 --> 0:58:33.440 A fit? 0:58:33.880 --> 0:58:36.520 Got mad, got upset, told his mom I can't beat her. 0:58:36.600 --> 0:58:38.680 I'm not better than her. I thought that that was 0:58:38.800 --> 0:58:42.000 crazy to see, Like, first of all, the Millers are legendary, 0:58:42.080 --> 0:58:46.000 but you forget about exactly how dominant Cheryl Miller was 0:58:46.120 --> 0:58:50.360 when she played basketball. And obviously Reggie is a legend too, 0:58:50.440 --> 0:58:53.120 but by far, Cheryl Miller is the better. 0:58:53.280 --> 0:58:54.440 Is the better of the siblings? 0:58:54.640 --> 0:58:55.080 No sense? 0:58:55.440 --> 0:58:56.800 She got two titles but not four? 0:58:57.040 --> 0:58:58.040 Yeah? Crazy? 0:58:58.680 --> 0:59:01.240 How many number one singles does Usher have? Is it 0:59:01.400 --> 0:59:04.840 A seven, B nine, C eleven or D. 0:59:05.040 --> 0:59:09.720 Thirteen number one singles? I'll go nine? 0:59:10.320 --> 0:59:12.959 You are correct, right? Answer is B nine? 0:59:14.080 --> 0:59:14.320 Nice? 0:59:14.960 --> 0:59:15.480 One for three? 0:59:16.240 --> 0:59:17.320 User baby? All right? 0:59:17.400 --> 0:59:17.680 All right? 0:59:17.720 --> 0:59:22.400 So one more? Yep, you got one more? Which this 0:59:22.560 --> 0:59:24.439 is hard? This is I'm gonna, I'm not gonna. 0:59:24.480 --> 0:59:25.240 I'm gonna get this right. 0:59:26.440 --> 0:59:32.000 Which w NBA franchise has the most title appearances? Is 0:59:32.040 --> 0:59:35.560 it A The New York Liberty, B the Los Angeles Sparks. 0:59:35.960 --> 0:59:39.000 See the Minnesota Lynx or d the Phoenix Mercury. 0:59:39.760 --> 0:59:40.840 I'm going b Sparks. 0:59:42.120 --> 0:59:44.959 Nah, it's not the it's not the Sparks. I'm going. 0:59:48.600 --> 0:59:49.600 If it's a Phoenix, I quit. 0:59:49.720 --> 0:59:54.200 I feel like Diana Tarassi been there a lot. I'm 0:59:54.240 --> 0:59:54.920 going Phoenix. 0:59:55.760 --> 0:59:57.720 Okay, let me get your you're both wrong. Let me 0:59:57.800 --> 1:00:01.800 give you a hint. It's a team from the finals 1:00:02.880 --> 1:00:05.880 a season ago. So that that's two of the that's 1:00:05.960 --> 1:00:08.200 A and C on here. It's either the Liberty or 1:00:08.240 --> 1:00:08.640 the Links. 1:00:09.440 --> 1:00:11.040 Well, the Liberty won last year, right, so it's the 1:00:11.120 --> 1:00:14.040 Links then, yeah, the Links. 1:00:14.320 --> 1:00:17.120 Maya Moore? Was that Maya that was getting all the time? 1:00:17.240 --> 1:00:20.760 Yeah, okay, yep, yeah, were one to three as well. 1:00:20.800 --> 1:00:23.040 Look, we said we don't know ball, like we told 1:00:23.080 --> 1:00:24.800 you that before you called in, Like, we said, we 1:00:24.840 --> 1:00:25.560 don't know ball. 1:00:26.280 --> 1:00:28.200 So yeah, but I said on New Music and I 1:00:28.280 --> 1:00:29.760 got the same score as you. So there you go. 1:00:30.040 --> 1:00:32.520 That's how we broke even. We broke even, Stevens. It's 1:00:32.520 --> 1:00:35.240 all good. We want to thank you for joining us. 1:00:35.520 --> 1:00:37.840 Good luck with everything that you're doing. We appreciate everything 1:00:37.920 --> 1:00:41.360 you're doing. You Andrea and Shaney, y'all absolutely killing it. 1:00:41.640 --> 1:00:44.439 It's a pleasure watching you ladies, uh you know, talk 1:00:44.480 --> 1:00:46.720 about sports and have fun at the same time. 1:00:46.800 --> 1:00:48.600 And we appreciate you kicking with us today. 1:00:48.400 --> 1:00:49.960 And thank you for the well time. 1:00:50.000 --> 1:00:51.720 Yeah, and tell your husband we said peace. Thanks for 1:00:51.800 --> 1:00:53.400 the support and we'll talk. 1:00:53.440 --> 1:00:54.720 You just did. He's gonna listen. 1:00:55.600 --> 1:00:58.360 We appreciate that. L. Thank you. That's L. Duncan for 1:00:58.520 --> 1:01:02.080 Rory and Maul. Don't know ball, no Willian now