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Speaker 2: All right, Rory back for another episode of Don't Know Ball,

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Speaker 2: because we absolutely do not know ball.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe a little bit. Maybe.

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Speaker 2: Look, this is why this is why we have this show,

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Speaker 2: so we can bring in some of our friends and that.

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Speaker 3: Do know ball and they can help us out.

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Speaker 2: Today we are joined by someone who is very knowledgeable,

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Speaker 2: more knowledgeable than you and I both Comebin Yes, combined,

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Speaker 2: even with Google, right, even with our smartphones in our hands,

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Speaker 2: she knows more about ball than we do. ESPN host

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Speaker 2: anchor women's college basketball sideline reporter analyst. I mean, if

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Speaker 2: it's women's basketball, she's there. Welcome Elle duncan lle thank

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Speaker 2: you for joining us.

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Speaker 4: Clap studio audience.

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Speaker 3: You can't hit it.

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Speaker 1: By the way, you guys are doing it wrong. If

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Speaker 1: you're still googling, just pull up chat GPT.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we get in this entire series, just like.

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Speaker 3: We can pull up chat chat GYT tell.

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Speaker 2: Us things we don't want to know about about basketball.

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Speaker 2: But you how are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing good, man. I'm a little bit tired. We

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Speaker 1: had the draft this week and I'm like in my

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Speaker 3: Is draft like this draft week like hell week for you?

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Speaker 1: Not really, because I was coming off like it's a

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Speaker 2: I saw during the Final Four and everything, well the

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Speaker 2: I saw that you you had South Carolina when it

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Speaker 3: I didn't know why. I mean, I get it.

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Speaker 2: I understand what coach Staley has been able to do,

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Speaker 2: and South Carolina is amazing, but coach orim I mean,

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Speaker 2: I mean Yukon, It's just like, how how do you

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing, okay, mile, is that I've filled

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Speaker 2: How important is it with coach Staley, the culture that

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Speaker 1: What's funny is that Gino and Don have very similar

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Speaker 2: Right now, over the years, I've been a fan of

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Speaker 6: Are in covering women's college basketball. You're there early for

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Speaker 2: Somebody's artists need to get into transfer portal. That's what

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Speaker 1: were getting music. Eight nine, ten months later that we

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00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,840
Speaker 1: were debuting in Atlanta. It was quite a time Freaknick

436
00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,720
Speaker 1: was popping at the time, like it was was too

437
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:46,119
Speaker 1: young for that.

438
00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:51,080
Speaker 2: All right, listen Elle, you referenced Luke, You reference Luke,

439
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:52,920
Speaker 2: and now you reference the Freaknik.

440
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,719
Speaker 3: Is there anything you wanted? Trailers and Jacksonville.

441
00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,040
Speaker 2: JD is doing a Freaknick documentary. Are we going to

442
00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,560
Speaker 2: see l somewhere in the background walking past a camera? Like,

443
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,360
Speaker 2: just let us know now so we don't be as

444
00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:04,439
Speaker 2: surprised when we see it.

445
00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 3: No, I was.

446
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,359
Speaker 1: For I am so fortunate that Freaknick was really pretty

447
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,840
Speaker 1: much waning out by the time I hit like college,

448
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,280
Speaker 1: but it was it was definitely very prevalent in middle

449
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,440
Speaker 1: and high school for me. My first introduction to Freaknick,

450
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,640
Speaker 1: my dad had to take because anybody that was from

451
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 1: there knew, like, you stay away from downtown Atlanta during Freaknick, unless,

452
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 1: of course you're participating, but we had to go. I

453
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,760
Speaker 1: had theater camp downtown and so my dad had to

454
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:34,359
Speaker 1: take me exact problem. And I just remember my dad

455
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 1: being like, cover your eyes, close your eyes because it

456
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,240
Speaker 1: was I mean it was it was going down. And

457
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 1: then in high school, this guy comes up to me

458
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,959
Speaker 1: in class. We were in Spanish class. His name was Shannon.

459
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 1: I'll never forget this. He comes up to me. He's like,

460
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 1: let me show you something, you know, And this is

461
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 1: when we just had like digital cameras, were gonna have

462
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,919
Speaker 1: like cell phones with that digital cameras, And he was like,

463
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,679
Speaker 1: take a look, and he shows me a video he

464
00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 1: had taken on his digital camera of some folks getting

465
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 1: at popping while just just driving down Peachtree in the

466
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 1: back of a truck with everyone like watching. And I

467
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 1: was like, is this what's happening thirty miles from now

468
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:12,639
Speaker 1: here downtown?

469
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 6: Like absolutely, yeah, you were practicing othello while you're doing that, right, I'm.

470
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,880
Speaker 1: Over here doing Shakespeare and they're shaking that ass, they're

471
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 1: shaking out. I love to remind some people, many of

472
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 1: which you are from Atlanta or from the surrounding areas.

473
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, some of you came about because of freakniks.

474
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Speaker 4: So yeah, for.

475
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,199
Speaker 3: Sure, absolutely absolutely.

476
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 6: And they're carrying on the tradition just without the festival

477
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 6: exactly correct.

478
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,400
Speaker 2: El So, you being so close to women's college basketball

479
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 2: and actually seeing these women up close and personal, who

480
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 2: is the one player that people don't talk about a

481
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,439
Speaker 2: lot that you feel like will be a star at

482
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 2: the next level?

483
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,400
Speaker 1: Ooh, someone people don't talk about a lot. I mean,

484
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 1: you know, the thing about women's college basketball is, even

485
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 1: though the parody is gone a lot better, there's still

486
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 1: really only like six or seven teams that I think

487
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 1: are really like contenders every year. And of those six

488
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 1: or seven teams, there's probably like three or four that

489
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 1: I think are our you know, next level or generational

490
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 1: or transformational. So most people sort of know them. But

491
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 1: I think someone that is is really going to take

492
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 1: not just because of her play, but because of everything

493
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 1: that she represents that's really going to take the next

494
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 1: level by storm is Flage Johnson at LSU. Because we

495
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,880
Speaker 1: know that these young women have to navigate a lot,

496
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 1: and they're balancing being student athletes and now being brands

497
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: because of nil, but she's like a whole ass rapper

498
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: and performer, like she'll go do a performance somewhere and

499
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 1: then she'll find where their closest jim is and she'll

500
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 1: work out for LSU. She's a champion. I think Flage

501
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 1: is like she's gonna be you know, we see you know,

502
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,880
Speaker 1: some dudes in the NBA and their careers fizzle out

503
00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: and they end up having hits that I don't know why.

504
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I don't I don't get it. Jello,

505
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 1: I don't like Elle.

506
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 3: I love you, I love you already, ell Ell, I

507
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 3: love you.

508
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 1: I'm like you guys are one of those songs that,

509
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 1: like it starts out, you're like, oh, this is fun,

510
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 1: and then after about thirty seconds, it's like, because that's

511
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: all you.

512
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 2: Need, and that's all you need for all you need

513
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 2: for TikTok is twenty seconds.

514
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 4: All you need for streaming.

515
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all that's all you need.

516
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,400
Speaker 2: So they're making these songs that just have this moment

517
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 2: within the song and people like that's a hit.

518
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, it's not.

519
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 4: It's certified gold as yesterday.

520
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 3: It's a terrible record, terrible, terrible record.

521
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 1: Well it's not a good record, it's it's just it's

522
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: one of those that like yeah, Like, if you're a DJ,

523
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 1: it's fun. You play it for the crowd for thirty

524
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 1: seconds and then you move on. Nobody wants to listen

525
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: to that shit from beginning to end.

526
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 3: Nobody.

527
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 6: I'll agree with you there, I'm definitely not listening to

528
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 6: that entire record.

529
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 3: I do like it in the.

530
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 6: Middle of a set for you know, thirty seconds at most.

531
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 6: But his follow up with Gloilla was one of the

532
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 6: worst songs I've ever heard.

533
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 2: Because he because he's not a real artist. He's not

534
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 2: a rapper, he's not a real artist.

535
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:00,719
Speaker 3: That's why.

536
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: Yes, And like the actual she's an actual artist. Like

537
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 1: I think that's why Flage is dope, because like, you know,

538
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: a lot of these dudes rap and they're bored. You know,

539
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: Damian lillarpoill hop on a mic, and like I think

540
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: Dame's actually not bad. Yeah, Dame can rap, but it's

541
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: it's a it's a hobby. Like Flage really wants basketball

542
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: and music to like sort of both be her careers,

543
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: and she has the talent to do that. So I

544
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 1: just think, I think at the next level, Like I

545
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: just think she's going to be an absolute So.

546
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 3: She's a star already.

547
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 2: I can't open X without seeing a flage ad. I'm like, yo,

548
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 2: she is she in school? Like they just have a

549
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 2: work doing ads all day. On X you said you

550
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 2: did theater as a kid Atlanta Radio. Did you ever

551
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 2: try to rap? There's no way you did.

552
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. My my rap style, I describe it as

553
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: like a mix of like Fergie and Kesh. It's very

554
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 1: white girl rap, like I need. It needs to be slow,

555
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,719
Speaker 1: you know. I woke up in the morning like I

556
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 1: won't say his name. Yeah, it's been like very so methodical,

557
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 1: which is why when everybody was shitting on snap music,

558
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: I was like, I love that shit.

559
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 4: I all along to the easy Pocket.

560
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like ABC one two three raps. I never

561
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: tried to rap, but I did. Rory have a very

562
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 1: brief encounter as a singer. I got a record deal

563
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: when I was nineteen, and the deal was it the

564
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: deal put TLC's deal to Shane. Just to tell you

565
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: how bad that deal was, Like they wanted to own

566
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: my name and perpetuity for like my life, like it was.

567
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 4: They didn't negotiate with ESPN just now.

568
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: They would still be making money off of me doing

569
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: something that's not music related and I released like I

570
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: had like some songs I put together like an EP,

571
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: and I went and I performed for the first time.

572
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: I was gonta do a live performance for the first

573
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: time with original music at this club in Atlanta at

574
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: the time called the Chili Pepper, and I had backup

575
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: dancers and like all this stuff. And it was so

576
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: bad that my own parents couldn't even lie to me,

577
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: like they like when I came off stage, I was like,

578
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: how did I do? And they were just like, You're

579
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: so brave.

580
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 3: It's so brave, such a brave soul.

581
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 4: What went wrong? What?

582
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: It just was bad? Like, you know what I realized.

583
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: I realized that having a decent voice and that I

584
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 1: love because I loved music so much, I thought, well,

585
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: because I love music, and people keep telling me I

586
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: have a decent voice, like I should do something in

587
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 1: this space. And I think what I realized was that

588
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 1: you can have like a passion and you can like

589
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: enjoy something and that does not mean that you have

590
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: what it takes to make it a profession. Like just

591
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: because you like making beats and that's a great creative

592
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: outlet for you, does not mean that, like you're the

593
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: next DJ Mustard, Like, I just it just doesn't do

594
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And like, there's a whole

595
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: lot more that goes into being a music artist then

596
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: generally liking writing songs, and like, there's just a lot

597
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: more that goes into it. And I realized that at

598
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: the time, but it was just it was the dancing.

599
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 1: It was the singing on key to a backup track.

600
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 3: Key is important.

601
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: On key is important because you can sing, but are

602
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 2: you on key tune on it exactly?

603
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: And I discovered that, like I am the Queen of

604
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: Shower Records, Like in the Shower, it's not like with

605
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: the acoustics, yeah right, Like I'm fucking Whitney Houston. But

606
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 1: you you put me with like ears in and it

607
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: doesn't go particularly well. So I just keep it to

608
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: karaoke at this point.

609
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 2: So Paige Beckers, she is the real deal. I like

610
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 2: her game. Where do you have her? As far as

611
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: what she will be able to do for the WNBA.

612
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 2: We saw what Caitlin and Angels rivalry and they're back

613
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: and forth kind of help to elevate the audience of

614
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 2: the WNBA.

615
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 3: Do you think Page comes in and adds to that.

616
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, She's definitely a ratings driver. I mean, listen, let's

617
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 1: just be real. There's no one like Caitlyn Clark. Like

618
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: there's like there just isn't There's no one, there's no rivalry.

619
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: I think that's fresh on people's minds. That's bigger than

620
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: Angel Rees versus Kaitlin Clark. It's why their matchups always

621
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: do so well. But Paige Becker's Like the thing about

622
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: Page is that someone was asking me this the other day.

623
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: They were like, this idea that the space is being

624
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: dominated by like a white woman, and it worked really

625
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: well for Caitlin because she's so freakin good and also

626
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: helped that like mainstream America, you know, could relate to

627
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: her and see, you know, their daughters and her. Why

628
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: didn't we have that same you know, astronomical effect with Page.

629
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: And the thing is is that, like Paige Becker's is

630
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: the best way to describe her is a very un

631
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: sexy word, and that is efficient, Like there is not

632
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: a smarter basketball player in terms of Page almost never

633
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: takes the wrong shot. She is is so incredibly efficient,

634
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: Like she was like on the precipice of like a

635
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: season where she was shooting at least fifty percent from

636
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: the field, at least forty percent from three, and was

637
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: shooting ninety percent from the free throw line. She's a

638
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: great two way player. She's a hell of a defender,

639
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: She's a facilitator. She can bring the ball up, she

640
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: can create. But she's very deferential, like Page is, such

641
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: as she doesn't love the like is a superstar, she's

642
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: the Queen of Riz Like. She's just as charismatic in

643
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: person as you see on social media, but she's also

644
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: very much about Like if you ever hear her talk,

645
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: all she does talk about her teamates, it's always about

646
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: other people, other people, other people. She doesn't love to

647
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: sort of own and embrace this superstar thing, and I

648
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: think that that's maybe why we didn't see the same.

649
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: I also think that there was a lot of stop

650
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: and start to her career because of the injuries. Like

651
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: Paige was the original Caitlin in terms of height. She

652
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: was the Gatorade National Player of the Year in high school,

653
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Speaker 1: COVID ruined her chance of winning a state champ being

654
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Speaker 1: ship She's the first and still only freshman ever to

655
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Speaker 1: win National Player of the Year. And there was just

656
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: this groundswell of like yo, this is the one, and

657
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: then she got hurt, right, and then she got hurt again,

658
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Speaker 1: and then all of her teammates got her. And I

659
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Speaker 1: think because of sort of the stop and start is

660
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Speaker 1: why we didn't see those same sort of like bananas

661
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Speaker 1: numbers that we saw with Caitlin Clark. But she is

662
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Speaker 1: absolutely the real deal, Like she is so incredible also

663
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Speaker 1: at navigating the space, because the w space is yes,

664
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Speaker 1: about the basketball, but also about the conversation and narratives

665
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Speaker 1: around it, and I think that Page navigates that in

666
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Speaker 1: such a smart way and it's incredibly authentic, Like she

667
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Speaker 1: understands and respects that this was a league that was

668
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Speaker 1: born and bred on the backs of black women, queer women,

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Speaker 1: and that they always have had the same attention and

670
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Speaker 1: commercial appeal, and she uses every opportunity she can to

671
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Speaker 1: thank them, to show them gratitude, to pay homage to them.

672
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Speaker 1: So she's she's gonna be She's gonna be amazing. Am

673
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Speaker 1: I do I expect that we're going to see, you know,

674
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Speaker 1: seven million viewers every time she steps on the court.

675
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Speaker 1: Maybe not, but in terms of just sheer talent, who

676
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Speaker 1: she is as a person, and then her social media

677
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Speaker 1: you know, outreach she's a superstar.

678
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Speaker 4: How do you feel the first takes and just morning

679
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 4: debate shows have affected the legacy of Sports Center?

680
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: Hmm, well, I mean I think in general, there's been

681
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: a lot of debate about like do we embrace debate?

682
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Speaker 1: Are we tired of debate? Sports Ower is one of

683
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Speaker 1: those like tried and true. When I first started working

684
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: at ESPN, they were like, sports Owner is such a

685
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: recognized brand that some people don't even associate it with ESPN,

686
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: Like they think it's its own thing. And Sports Center

687
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: has also seen some like different machinations right where like

688
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: it was very to start, was very newsy. It was

689
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: very you know, you give the highlights, you give the facts,

690
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: like there's no and then like people like Stuart Scott

691
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: came in and they brought in cultural references and they

692
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Speaker 1: made it more fun and interesting and they used you know,

693
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Speaker 1: one liners to sort of tell the story of sports.

694
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Speaker 1: And now I think that the Sports Owner that I

695
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: work at is cool because it allows for any type

696
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Speaker 1: of personality to be who they want to be. Like

697
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Speaker 1: fifteen years ago, probably a sports center was never going

698
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Speaker 1: to let someone like me write a monologue where I

699
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: just roast people like I do on taking the l

700
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Speaker 1: right or allow the fandom. You know, I bark because

701
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: I'm a Georgia Bulldog fan whenever I can, Like, I

702
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Speaker 1: don't think it was embraced or appreciated in the same way,

703
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Speaker 1: and I'd like to believe that the debate shows have

704
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Speaker 1: helped in that way. I think that it allows like

705
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Speaker 1: I get to do first take. There would have been

706
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Speaker 1: a time where it would have been nonsensical to put

707
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Speaker 1: a sports center anchor on a debate show, because the

708
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Speaker 1: whole point is, it's not about you, it's not about

709
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Speaker 1: your opinion, it doesn't matter what you think. And so

710
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: I think that a place like ESPN and the first

711
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: takes of the world and they get up to the

712
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: world's has just allowed people to sort of see us

713
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Speaker 1: a little bit more than just what the specific role is.

714
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Speaker 1: And so I like to believe that I'm a sports

715
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Speaker 1: center anchor and then some and so you know, ultimately,

716
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Speaker 1: like we're sort of damned if we do and damned

717
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: if we don't. Sometimes at ESPN, you just go full

718
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: highlights and people go, well, I can get that on

719
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Speaker 1: my phone. That's stupid. Why would I just come to

720
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: you for highlights? That's stupid. You talk too much and

721
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: then they go, we want our highlights. It's like you really, like,

722
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: you really can't win, And so ultimately it works like

723
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Speaker 1: people that bitch and complain about first take like tell

724
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: that to the ratings, tell that to the interest, to

725
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: the intrigue, like it's a it's a formula that's working,

726
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: and so they're going to keep doing it and like that.

727
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Speaker 1: It just is what it is. But ultimately, like if

728
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Speaker 1: you don't like a debate show, we also offer you

729
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Speaker 1: other options as well.

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Speaker 4: What's something you want to add to Sports Center that's

731
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Speaker 4: not currently there?

732
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Speaker 1: Something I want to add to Sports Center?

733
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Speaker 4: More baseball highlights, yeah for sure.

734
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Speaker 1: Yeah, golf, yeah, more golf in general. Yeah, you know,

735
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Speaker 1: I would say that, like speaking for my Sports Center

736
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: because it's a one hour show and then when you

737
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Speaker 1: account for commercials, it's a forty minute show. What I

738
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Speaker 1: would love for Sports Center to be able to have

739
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Speaker 1: more of but it's kind of impossible based on the formula.

740
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Speaker 1: It's just more time to let shit breathe, you know,

741
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: like more time to have a guest on and not

742
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Speaker 1: dedicate three minutes to them, Like if the conversation is

743
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: going really well, being able to have more opportunity to

744
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: expound or to dig in a little deeper on things.

745
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Speaker 1: But that's just not really what we're working with, Like

746
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: we're trying to give you all of the news or

747
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: table set everything that's coming up amongst the four major sports,

748
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: including women's basketball, including men's basketball. Like, it's just it's

749
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Speaker 1: a lot. I wish that there was a little bit

750
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Speaker 1: more space to just when called for a freestyle a bit.

751
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Speaker 3: How do you feel about some.

752
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 2: Of the biggest stars in the WNBA being able to

753
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: make more money in unrival than.

754
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 3: The actual league?

755
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that it It's fortunately short term,

756
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: you know, the new CBA is coming up, this is

757
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 1: the last year under this current CBA. They will get

758
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: an exponential raise. Of course, it's unfortunate. You know, it's

759
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: when you see that like Caitlin Clark, Paige Becker's Angel

760
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: Reese making seventy two thousand dollars a year and their

761
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: you know, first year, Like I'm pretty sure that's what

762
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: like the team manager is making on an NBA team, right, Like,

763
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Speaker 1: So that's that's wild. I appreciate that Unrivaled was started

764
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: by w NBA players with the FISA, Collier and Brianna Stewart,

765
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: because they understand a what their worth is and their value,

766
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: but they also understand that the money is in being

767
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: an initial investor. And that was what I thought was

768
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: the cool thing with Unrivaled. It wasn't just another league

769
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: where they were promising to pay more people. It was

770
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Speaker 1: a league where you could come in as an initial investor.

771
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: So you're profiting off of a direct profit off of

772
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: the ratings, the viewership, Jersey sales, ticket sales, Like you're

773
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: getting a piece of all of that tech. You are

774
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: in the CBA as well, but it's just such a

775
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: small piece. So it gave these women an opportunity to

776
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: have a business venture on top of being able to

777
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: stay in this country not have to play internationally. It

778
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: was a breeding ground for free agents, Like they got

779
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: to play with people, They got to talk to people

780
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: in Miami. From what I understand, like that's how some

781
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: of these deals came about, is someone like hollering as

782
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Speaker 1: someone and being like, Yo, you need to join us

783
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: in Connecticut, you need to join us in New York.

784
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Speaker 1: And so from all the women that I've talked to,

785
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Speaker 1: they absolutely love it and the ratings were great despite

786
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: the fact they didn't have some of the bigger, bigger

787
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: names like an Asia Wilson or a Caitlin Clark Page

788
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: signed on to do three years of it. So that's amazing.

789
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: But I mean it's great to have competition, Like for

790
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: so long in the women's space, it's basically been you

791
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 1: get what you get and you don't get upset. And

792
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Speaker 1: that's because there is no competition, right, Like there's one

793
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: media company that does your games, there's one league that

794
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: does your games, and so like you just have to

795
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: get what you get because you really don't have any

796
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 1: other options unless you want to go to Russia, and

797
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 1: who wants to go to Russia?

798
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Speaker 5: So any time there's compensation, that just drives the price up,

799
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 5: right exactly, What's what's something you would change if you

800
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Speaker 5: were the commissioner?

801
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 6: Ooh?

802
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: I mean, well, you know that's a tough one because

803
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Speaker 1: the things that I think should change in the w

804
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: R counter intuitive to what a commissioner would want, right

805
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: paying them. Yeah, but I think you know what I

806
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: would do is I would level the playing field more

807
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: in terms of the facilities and because right now you

808
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: still have the haves and have nots, like when you're

809
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: a free agent and you're deciding and like, listen, it's

810
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,919
Speaker 1: with all sports. Some facilities facilities are nicer than others,

811
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: and we get it, but they're in general is a baseline,

812
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: right Like, there is a baseline of like, you can't

813
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: have these women in a rat infested gym, right Like,

814
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 1: there's like and I'm not saying that that's what's happening,

815
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: but across men's sports, there's a baseline. You have to

816
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: have certain nutrition, you have to have certain you know,

817
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: number of staff that's and that's not there right now.

818
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like, okay, if if you go

819
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Speaker 1: to the aces and you're in you're in great shape,

820
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: right because Mark Davis really believes in the product, so

821
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: we spends a ton of money. You're at Golden State,

822
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Speaker 1: they're brand new, but like the Lake ups like they care,

823
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: so they're going to spend a bunch of money. But

824
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Speaker 1: let's say you want to go play for a team

825
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: because you think their roster is incredible, but you also

826
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: know that your facilities are trash like, so I would

827
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Speaker 1: start with making a baseline that is better in general

828
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Speaker 1: for them in terms of facilities. They're asking for insurance

829
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: after they retire, which is like something that you should

830
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: be able to do. The last CBA was really historic

831
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: in terms of, like, you know, women have babies. It's

832
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: a thing. I hope I'm not sharing something new with you,

833
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: Ria Maw, but women have babies, so like what is

834
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Speaker 1: it right? Like protections during pregnancy, how long it takes

835
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Speaker 1: for them to get back onto the court, like all

836
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: of those things I would take into consideration, but I

837
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: would definitely start with the facilities and how they travel.

838
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: And the charters were new last year, and again it's

839
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Speaker 1: quine of one of those things where it was like, Okay,

840
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: it's better than commercial for sure. However, I've also heard

841
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: that some of these planes are basically like Southwest Plains,

842
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: Like they're not they're not necessarily like the lap of

843
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: luxury planes that you would expect on like a chartered

844
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Speaker 1: you know, I've been on charters with the Red Sox

845
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Speaker 1: and you know their lux like they're they're nice, nice,

846
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: nice planes. Some of these planes don't even recline, you know.

847
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: And these are tall women who are traveling across country,

848
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Speaker 1: So just that kind of stuff.

849
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Speaker 6: We had a Lexi Brown on the show and she

850
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 6: just got traded from LA to Seattle, and the first

851
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Speaker 6: thing she said was, well, at least they'll have a

852
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Speaker 6: practice gym. Now she had no practice gym in Los Angeles,

853
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 6: which is crazy Los Angeles, right, Kansas, Right, that's crazy.

854
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 4: Right.

855
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: So when you're thinking about where you want to go,

856
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: like do you want to go to the place that

857
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: has not a practice gym or the place that has

858
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: a practice gym and like a cryogenic chamber, like.

859
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 4: You know, a shower and an ice bath at least, yeah,

860
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 4: can you imagine?

861
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 2: Now we had We also had one of your other calls,

862
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 2: Andrea on and the other day were watching Rich Paul

863
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 2: and he said he said he even feel like Miami

864
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: was the Big Three because he even feel like Chris

865
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Speaker 2: Bosh was part of the Big Three. Now you Andrea,

866
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 2: and I don't want to butcher her name is it Shane?

867
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 4: Yeah?

868
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: Sam, y'all have been dubbed the Big Three? How important

869
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: do you think it is what y'all are doing? Because

870
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: I do think that y'all are building a type of

871
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 2: culture and analyst and over at ESPN. How important and

872
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 2: how much fun do y'all have doing what y'all doing?

873
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 2: Because I'm starting to see clips of y'all everywhere having

874
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 2: fun in the studio, and the way that y'all talk

875
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: about the game and break it down and give it

876
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: to somebody who is not really into women's sports like myself,

877
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 2: but have followed it, y'all make it more, you know,

878
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 2: palatable for somebody like me.

879
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 3: How important is that for y'all and what y'all are building.

880
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: We appreciate that. I mean, I think that's the point now,

881
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: is that, like, you know, you got two ogs like

882
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: Drea play in Tennessee. Chaney is a Stanford Hall of

883
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: Famer and was a former number one overall pick, so

884
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: they've been in it. But then you have someone like

885
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: me who came into the space four seasons ago. I mean,

886
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: I've obviously always been a fan of women's sports in general.

887
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: I was a softball player in my whole life, but

888
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: I wasn't in this space. And the beautiful part about

889
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: growing and expanding a fan base is that there needs

890
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: to be room for the novices who are learning. And

891
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 1: I think what Cheney and Andrea do incredibly well is

892
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: that while they could talk over your head about basketball,

893
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: they make it digestible. They show you all the joy

894
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 1: that they have in talking about it, and the joy

895
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: that they had in playing it. They know these players

896
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: so incredibly well. They either played with them or they

897
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: mentor them. And I just think that, like, if you

898
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: love the WNBA, if you love women's college basketball and

899
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 1: you've been around since its inception, then they're for you,

900
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: and we hope that we're for you. But if you're

901
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: brand new and you're just trying to learn and you

902
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: just want to know, like who should I be watching? Okay,

903
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: apart from like Paige Becker's, who else on the team

904
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 1: is really important if you want to see why ucon

905
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: went on that ridiculous run and won the national championship,

906
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: Like if you just want and then on top of that,

907
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: if you just want to see three women who really

908
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: enjoy each other's company and roast each other and look

909
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: at each other like sisters. And you know, I come

910
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: up with my one liners because I'm certainly not going

911
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: to match them in terms of basketball acumen. Like, I

912
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 1: just think that we try to bring as much fun

913
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: as we can because this space is really fun. And

914
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: the thing that's most important to me is that our

915
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: relationship translates on air because we are always like that

916
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: if the camera stops rolling, we don't stop acting that way.

917
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: It's just that, you know, we have an opportunity to

918
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 1: share our relationship with everybody, and it's been great. It's

919
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: been one of the most rewarding experiences of my career

920
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: because it's two women that I respect so much and

921
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: we all want each other to win, and that can

922
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: be difficult. Like I've worked with people before, and your

923
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: job is to have chemistry and sometimes you have to

924
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: fake it. And you know, my greatest like gift is

925
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 1: when I've worked with someone who I can't stay and

926
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: people will come up to me and be like, are

927
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: you guys best friends? Because you just seem like you

928
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: love each other. I'm like, she smiles through her teeth,

929
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 1: And in this case, I don't have to fake the chemistry,

930
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: the joy, the love, the respect. Like it's all been great.

931
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 3: It was a funny story.

932
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 2: I was driving in Manhattan one day and I'm turning

933
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 2: on like thirty twenty ninth Street, I think, and I

934
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 2: was texting, texting and turning at the same time. But

935
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 2: I was trying to tell my friend that I was

936
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: pulling up in front of the building to come downstairs,

937
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 2: and I look up. I had to slam on the

938
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 2: brakes almost hit somebody and she yells, you fucking idiot,

939
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 2: and it was Swing Cash, and I wanted to say,

940
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: I wanted to say I'm a big fan, but I

941
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 2: didn't think that was the right the right time to yoh.

942
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: You got swin to cuss at you because she's so

943
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: chill and.

944
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: Like, no, what I like? Yeah, I almost hit, like

945
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,919
Speaker 2: I'm turning slow, but like she had the right away

946
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 2: to walk And I looked up and it was Swing

947
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: Cash and she was just yelling like what are you.

948
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,479
Speaker 2: I was like, I wanted to say, I'm sorry, Swim,

949
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan, but.

950
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 3: That wasn't the right time to do that.

951
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that probably was not the right wasn't the right

952
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 1: time you almost murdered her, But yeah, I'm glad you didn't.

953
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 6: We did an Atlanta album versus with pac Man Jones,

954
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 6: another Atlanta resident, and I figured we could bring that

955
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 6: segment back with you. Since you are a music person

956
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 6: and from Atlanta. You have to pick an album between

957
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 6: each of these artists. You can't say, booth. We'll start

958
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 6: with Outcasts. Since you have the shirt on Aty Aliens

959
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 6: or Equemini.

960
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 1: Equimini, are you answer that quick? Chunky Fire Chunky Fire

961
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: is my favorite Outcast song of all time.

962
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm with you.

963
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 4: I'd probably still lean on eighty aliens.

964
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 3: But it is tough.

965
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 4: You said that with the quickness God damn.

966
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Equimini. Just to me, it's like a

967
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: Noe Skips album. Literally, I will listen to it from

968
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: beginning to end.

969
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 4: Ludacris back for the first time versus Chicken and Beer.

970
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: Chicken and Beer only because only because there was a

971
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: personal story there. I was working at the time at

972
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,479
Speaker 1: gladyson Ron's Chicken and Waffles. Do you remember that franchise? Okay,

973
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: So I'm working there as a hostess, and they Luda

974
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: had his like album listening party at gladyson Ron's. It

975
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: was the first time I ever met him. I'm cool

976
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: with Luda, like we're homies now, like he's the best

977
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: I love Shaka, but at the time, I just was

978
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: so starstruck and I just remember hearing it for the

979
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: first time while he was playing and watching him like

980
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: rap along while he was having chicken and waffles. So

981
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm going chicken and waffles just for nostalgia.

982
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he was a radio host too, so I

983
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 6: see I see the collection back for the first time

984
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 6: is underrated.

985
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,479
Speaker 4: But I'm going chicken in beer as well. Yeah gz

986
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 4: TM one on one versus the Recession, ooh, TM one

987
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 4: on one, Yeah, that's kind of yeah, that's that's that's

988
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 4: you can't you can't go against it. The recession is

989
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 4: there though.

990
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: This was a good album, but it was a good album.

991
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 2: The TM one on one is the is the album.

992
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 4: This is one of the toughest to me. T I

993
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 4: Trap Music Verse King.

994
00:45:55,719 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: Oh Okay. Again, at the time, I was doing Atlanta Radio,

995
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: so we were doing some events with t I at

996
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: the time, and like did his album release party for King.

997
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with King, just because of the nostalgia.

998
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: Like I have a horrible memory, and I listened to

999
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: music specifically when I'm in moments to help me remember

1000
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: those moments. And I just like I can distinctly remember,

1001
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: like so much of my life at that time wrapped

1002
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: up with King. So I'm gonna go King.

1003
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 6: Do you have any crazy stories from when you were

1004
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 6: working at the radio station? Oh god, especially around that

1005
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 6: time in Atlanta, was so many Well.

1006
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: Okay, So I have a funny Kanye story which.

1007
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 4: Is, Oh my god, the world if you're on Twitter,

1008
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 4: you have.

1009
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: One fair fair although what he's doing now isn't exactly funny,

1010
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: more so disgusting and deplorable, but you're right, right. So

1011
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 1: we were the last radio station at the time to

1012
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 1: add gold Digger, Okay, the very last one, and I

1013
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: don't know why RPD just decided we weren't going to

1014
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: add the song, so we ad gold Digger. Of course,

1015
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: gold Digger is a huge smash it. Kanye comes on

1016
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 1: our radio show and he has clearly been told or

1017
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: knows that we were the last hip hop major hip hop.

1018
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 4: He probably researched himself, of course he did.

1019
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: So there's just this like there's just this contentious like

1020
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: attitude with everything that we're doing, you know, and the

1021
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: man was truly like at the time, I was like, man,

1022
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: this man is truly eccentric. Right, Like now I would

1023
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: describe him in some other words, but at the time,

1024
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: eccentric kept coming to mind. You know, he just would

1025
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: He was very add and I can relate. I'm add two.

1026
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: But like you could literally be like, Kanye, do you

1027
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: want like a coke or anything? And he'd be like, no,

1028
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to coke, but coke is refreshing. It's

1029
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: refreshing like a Fanta, although Fanta commercials are not that

1030
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: good because it was just like, what the fuck are

1031
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: you talking about?

1032
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 3: So he was the first.

1033
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: We just and how they hallucinate the same thing and

1034
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: so so, so the interview is over, it's like all

1035
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: over the he's being He's like jumping behind, He's just

1036
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: being Kanye. And so finally we get to a point

1037
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: where we're like, it's time to do the radio drops, right,

1038
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: and like, for people that are listening that don't know,

1039
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: I know, y'all know, the radio drop is you know, yo,

1040
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: you're listening to Rory and Mao on B one o

1041
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: three whatever it is. So it's time for him to

1042
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: do the drops. And this is where he decides he's

1043
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: going to bring up that we were the last. So

1044
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 1: so every drop is like, Yo, what's up? You're listening

1045
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: to V one o three? Or he's like, Yo, what's

1046
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 1: up this Kanye West? You listening to V one o three? Yeah?

1047
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you should listen to them. Even

1048
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: though they didn't want to play my stuff, even though

1049
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: they didn't want to play gold Digger, even though they

1050
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 1: didn't see it, that's cool, though it's fine. It's whatever.

1051
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: You're listening. We're like, all right, can you try it again?

1052
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 2: Kanye n.

1053
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 4: No, it's perfect, Yo, what's up?

1054
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: This is Kanye West. I mean you know, you listen

1055
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: in the bitch Ass V one.

1056
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 3: OK, Like, oh my god, bro, you listen in the

1057
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 3: bitch Ass V one.

1058
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: O three was but to be honest, if you have

1059
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: time for one more story, rest in peace to the

1060
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: greatest DMX. My favorite radio drop story of all time

1061
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: was X because X comes up to our radio station, which,

1062
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: by the way, is located right on Peachtree Street in

1063
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: Colony Square, which, if you've been to Atlanta, is a

1064
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: main thoroughfare. He shows up with every rough rider in

1065
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: the southeast. They are blocking traffic, like there's people everywhere.

1066
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: It's just it's Madison chaos everywhere. So it comes up

1067
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: to the radio station and he's great, and we're you know,

1068
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: we're doing our interview or whatever, and it comes time

1069
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: for him to do the drops. So my little intern

1070
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: comes in and hands him the sheet right with everything

1071
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 1: that he needs to say and his name on it,

1072
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: even though he could have figured out the name part right.

1073
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 5: So he goes to start, Yo, what's up? This isn't

1074
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 5: and he stops and he's like, Yo, what the fuck

1075
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 5: is this? And we were like what and he's like,

1076
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 5: what the fuck is this? And he turns a paper

1077
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 5: and he's like, you put fucking little EG.

1078
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 3: I looked like a little X.

1079
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: You is a big X. That ain't no fuck, I'm

1080
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: not a little X.

1081
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 6: You need to fix it.

1082
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: And we were like, can you just can you just

1083
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: like say it though, because like, no one's gonna see

1084
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: the paper. This is just a reference for you. I

1085
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: want you to change it. And he's like, he's pissed

1086
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: because we somebody did a typo and they did capital D,

1087
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: capital M, lowercase X, and he would not let it slide.

1088
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 3: So we have never lowercase the X. You never lowercase

1089
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 3: the X.

1090
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: Ever, Brett. So we had to wait reprint it, and

1091
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: then he was like this is better, and then he

1092
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 1: did it great.

1093
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 6: Wait, that's even crazy, because when you were saying it,

1094
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 6: I thought maybe someone confused him with the director little

1095
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 6: X or something.

1096
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 3: It was just a lower case lower case X.

1097
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 7: They were just typing it really quickly, and because he

1098
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 7: asked for it to be like written out and he

1099
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 7: and then they accidentally made a typo and the intern

1100
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 7: was humiliated and embarrassed.

1101
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 3: All right.

1102
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 6: Before before we get to our don'no ball questions, just

1103
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 6: quickly have a few more future fifty six nights Verse Hendrix,

1104
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 6: now Hendrix, same young Thug, Jeffrey or Barter six Jeffrey

1105
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 6: Usher Confessions or eighty seven oh one, Oh Confessions I'm

1106
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 6: Leana eighty seven.

1107
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 2: I I like that you kind of hesitated with that one.

1108
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 2: You thought about eighty seven oh one.

1109
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 3: A little bit, I did.

1110
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,479
Speaker 1: I mean, I love eighty seven oh one, but again

1111
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: professions radio nostalgia.

1112
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, eighty seven on one is still a note

1113
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 6: skip classic to me though, But yes, do we want

1114
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 6: to start or don't know trivia questions?

1115
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 3: All right?

1116
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, Lle, we have some questions to see how

1117
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 2: much ball we don't know, But we also have some

1118
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 2: questions for you to see how much music even though

1119
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,399
Speaker 2: I mean, Lle, she's fucking she's shop all the way around.

1120
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if we're gonna be able to yeahoth categories.

1121
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 2: This is gonna be pretty bad for us, But we

1122
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 2: have some questions for you. So we're gonna ask you

1123
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: a question, you'll answer, and then you'll ask us a

1124
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 2: question about Ball to see exactly how much Rory and Maul.

1125
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 3: Do not know about Ball.

1126
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 2: So the first question l before the stage name he

1127
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 2: has now Anderson Pac released two albums under the alias

1128
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 2: of A Breeze love Joy, b Obe C Brandon Anderson

1129
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 2: or d Oasis.

1130
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I don't know this one, I'll I wouldn't. No,

1131
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: I only know him as Anderson?

1132
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 2: Was it?

1133
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 4: Answer is A Breezy love Joy? Wow?

1134
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: That actually feels Yeah, that's.

1135
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 4: Not like the name of the next album.

1136
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1137
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 4: What's your favorite Anderson back album?

1138
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: Uh?

1139
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 4: Venice, Okay, I'm with you.

1140
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 3: The great album.

1141
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 4: What'd you think about the Silk Sonic Project? I loved it.

1142
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: I actually saw them live in Vegas and I dropped

1143
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: several bags to go see it. I was a little

1144
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 1: pissed at first, and then I was pissed when they

1145
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: told me to put my phone away, And by the

1146
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: end of it, I was like, this was the I've

1147
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: just never seen anybody sing and perform their heart out

1148
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,760
Speaker 1: like that for two and a hour half straight hours

1149
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: like it was. I was into it.

1150
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 6: We can we can cut this if your agent gets upset.

1151
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 6: Who do you think did more cocaine in the studio

1152
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 6: Bruno Mars or Anderson pac during the making of that project.

1153
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: Bruno, for sure. I didn't I feel like you.

1154
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 4: Are selling Anders short on his cocaine ability.

1155
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 3: No, I think she knows Bruno's cocaine.

1156
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: What does he have high.

1157
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 1: More about Bruno's.

1158
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah she no, No, you could look at Bruno and

1159
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 2: just tell like now he probably just you.

1160
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 4: Know, that project was not for the love of soul music.

1161
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 4: It was for the love of coke.

1162
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 6: That's not the same coke dealer. Yeah, but that's you know,

1163
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 6: music in cocohen and that's their an R. You know

1164
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 6: how that is all right, so you can ask us.

1165
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 1: All right, here's your question. In twenty twenty four, Caitlin

1166
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: Clark became the all time leading score in NCAA women's

1167
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: basketball history. Whose record did she break? Was it a

1168
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: Don Staley, b Kelsey Plumb, Ce, Candice Parker or de

1169
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: Maya Moore? This is a sneaky one.

1170
00:53:55,560 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 4: Uh shit, I'm a work seems too obvious.

1171
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go d Maya Moore.

1172
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm gonna steal Mall's answer. I'm gonna go d

1173
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:07,439
Speaker 6: as well. We'll be wrong together.

1174
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, the answer is actually Kelsey.

1175
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 4: Plumb really never got Yeah.

1176
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was at Washington and she got a whole

1177
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: lot of points.

1178
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 6: Like she was.

1179
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: She was up there racking up points. Yep.

1180
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 3: Wow, go Kelsey. I didn't know that as well. Yeah,

1181
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 3: all right.

1182
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 6: Our second question, what Gucci Man feature performed the best

1183
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 6: on the Billboard Hot one hundred. Was it a Party,

1184
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 6: B Steady Movin C, Black Beatles or d wake Up

1185
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 6: in the Sky?

1186
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: Oh? I love that song. By the way, whenever people

1187
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: ask me what my walk up song would be if

1188
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: I was a baseball player, I say that even though

1189
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 1: it's about waking up stoned, I suppose, if you know me,

1190
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: is pretty appropriate. Coo. I don't know. I feel like

1191
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: it's probably some maybe because Gucci, like Gucci's my guy,

1192
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 1: by the way, I love Gucci, but his music is

1193
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: not that mainstream, so I'll say because it was with

1194
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: Bruno Mars, maybe wake Up in the Sky.

1195
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 6: No, it was see Black Beatles. Really Yeah, that one

1196
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,760
Speaker 6: actually shocked me as well. Did you watch the GZ

1197
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 6: and Gucci Man versus during of.

1198
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: Course I did, and again like I love Gez, like

1199
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 1: I dropped a GZ reference at the final four. I

1200
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: love Gez, but I am a I'm like a Gucci girl,

1201
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: like I like I'm a dog is like one of

1202
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: my favorite songs of all time. I'm a treat to

1203
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 1: like a dog. I'm a come on man. And so

1204
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 1: I'm maybe the only person that thought he won.

1205
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 3: Smoke.

1206
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, let's go Gucci, come on man,

1207
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: We're definitely one.

1208
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 6: Ignorant New Yorkers. I was watching that, like, why is

1209
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 6: this a matchup? Like why would anyone even think that Gucci?

1210
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: I was.

1211
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 2: I was more so concerned that the security concerns in

1212
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 2: the buildings, like why would they have these two gentlemen

1213
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 2: so close on the stage to each other?

1214
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 3: Like I just didn't think that was a safe thing

1215
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 3: to do.

1216
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 4: But the matchup goes much deeper than music.

1217
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was much deep.

1218
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some there's some real animals over there. But

1219
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 1: I'm always gonna ride.

1220
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 4: With Do you do you think, in fact, Gucci is

1221
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 4: a clone?

1222
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: Is that a rumor that he's a clone?

1223
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1224
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 6: When he got out of jail, he looked like a

1225
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 6: completely different human being, Like the before and after looked

1226
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 6: like some telemarketer.

1227
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 2: Well that's what happens when you're locked up and you

1228
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 2: have you on the strict diet.

1229
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 4: Of you know you thank you, you got nothing to

1230
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 4: do all you're doing in federal prison.

1231
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 3: No, but when you stop eating all the bullshit, your

1232
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 3: skin kind of you know.

1233
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,280
Speaker 2: Jail is where you're start eating healthy, a little little healthier,

1234
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 2: little healthier and jury.

1235
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: You're not drinking, you're not smoking, you're not late night snacking.

1236
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you know these artists are in the studio late,

1237
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: they're eating meals at three am. Like all he did

1238
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: was work out. I listen. I knew Gucci before and after.

1239
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: I remember when you would talk to Gucci and he

1240
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: would rub that big fat Santa belly. I believe that

1241
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: he's not a clone at all.

1242
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 2: Now.

1243
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: The teeth sometimes I'm like, bro, we need to scale

1244
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: that down a little bit, like that is not a

1245
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 1: natural shade of teeth.

1246
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 4: He definitely got the excels for sure, got the mediums.

1247
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 4: It's on you, right, all right.

1248
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: My question, which w NBA superstar holds the record with

1249
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: two other teammates for the most n c A A

1250
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 1: Championships won by a player. Is it a Sabrinian Escu,

1251
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: b Cheryl Miller, cee Asia Wilson or de Brianna Stewart

1252
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: what was B again B with Cheryl Miller. I'm going

1253
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: to give you a hint. This person literally won four

1254
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: national championships in a row. Four.

1255
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 3: It has to be b Stuart.

1256
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: No, is that your answer?

1257
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 3: I'm going Brianna Stewart.

1258
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 4: I'm going Brianna too.

1259
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, got it in your face. Them all was right

1260
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 3: when he said it. So yeah, that was not going

1261
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 3: to be.

1262
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 2: That's that's you, because that sounds like you can even

1263
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 2: though Cheryl, what Cheryl was doing was absolutely just you know,

1264
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 2: that was insane. I saw a clip of her talking

1265
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 2: about when she came home and Reggie had had a

1266
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 2: good game. I think he had like thirty six or

1267
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 2: thirty eight, and so he was kind of hype coming home.

1268
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 2: And that was the day that Cheryl had one hundred

1269
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 2: and something and he was he came in and she was, Yeah,

1270
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 2: she came and came in and he was hyping. Cheryl

1271
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 2: was already home, sitting there and he's like, yo, so

1272
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 2: what's up?

1273
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 3: What did you do today?

1274
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 2: He was like, at that point, I think she had

1275
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 2: a sixty point game, already had a seventy. She was

1276
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: throwing out some numbers that I was like, she's casually saying, yeah,

1277
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 2: I had sixty before, I had seventy before.

1278
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 3: And so Reggie was sitting there like, so, what did

1279
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 3: you do today? She was like, you know, one hundred?

1280
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 3: And he was like what did he just see you through?

1281
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 3: A fit?

1282
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 2: Got mad, got upset, told his mom I can't beat her.

1283
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 2: I'm not better than her. I thought that that was

1284
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 2: crazy to see, Like, first of all, the Millers are legendary,

1285
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 2: but you forget about exactly how dominant Cheryl Miller was

1286
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 2: when she played basketball. And obviously Reggie is a legend too,

1287
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 2: but by far, Cheryl Miller is the better.

1288
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 3: Is the better of the siblings?

1289
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 4: No sense?

1290
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: She got two titles but not four?

1291
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 3: Yeah? Crazy?

1292
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 6: How many number one singles does Usher have? Is it

1293
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 6: A seven, B nine, C eleven or D.

1294
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: Thirteen number one singles? I'll go nine?

1295
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,959
Speaker 4: You are correct, right? Answer is B nine?

1296
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: Nice?

1297
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 4: One for three?

1298
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: User baby? All right?

1299
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 3: All right?

1300
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: So one more? Yep, you got one more? Which this

1301
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,439
Speaker 1: is hard? This is I'm gonna, I'm not gonna.

1302
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get this right.

1303
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: Which w NBA franchise has the most title appearances? Is

1304
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: it A The New York Liberty, B the Los Angeles Sparks.

1305
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: See the Minnesota Lynx or d the Phoenix Mercury.

1306
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 4: I'm going b Sparks.

1307
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,959
Speaker 3: Nah, it's not the it's not the Sparks. I'm going.

1308
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 4: If it's a Phoenix, I quit.

1309
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 2: I feel like Diana Tarassi been there a lot. I'm

1310
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 2: going Phoenix.

1311
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: Okay, let me get your you're both wrong. Let me

1312
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: give you a hint. It's a team from the finals

1313
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: a season ago. So that that's two of the that's

1314
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: A and C on here. It's either the Liberty or

1315
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: the Links.

1316
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 4: Well, the Liberty won last year, right, so it's the

1317
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 4: Links then, yeah, the Links.

1318
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 3: Maya Moore? Was that Maya that was getting all the time?

1319
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, yep, yeah, were one to three as well.

1320
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 2: Look, we said we don't know ball, like we told

1321
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 2: you that before you called in, Like, we said, we

1322
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 2: don't know ball.

1323
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, but I said on New Music and I

1324
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: got the same score as you. So there you go.

1325
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 2: That's how we broke even. We broke even, Stevens. It's

1326
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 2: all good. We want to thank you for joining us.

1327
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 2: Good luck with everything that you're doing. We appreciate everything

1328
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 2: you're doing. You Andrea and Shaney, y'all absolutely killing it.

1329
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,439
Speaker 2: It's a pleasure watching you ladies, uh you know, talk

1330
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 2: about sports and have fun at the same time.

1331
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 3: And we appreciate you kicking with us today.

1332
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 4: And thank you for the well time.

1333
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and tell your husband we said peace. Thanks for

1334
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 2: the support and we'll talk.

1335
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: You just did. He's gonna listen.

1336
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 3: We appreciate that. L. Thank you. That's L. Duncan for

1337
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 3: Rory and Maul. Don't know ball, no Willian now