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Speaker 4: It is wild Card Week today. Wildcard.
Speaker 1: Maybe the Cowboys offense versus the Packers defense.
Speaker 5: What is your favorite UNA Wildcard? What wild your favorite
Speaker 5: UNO card?
Speaker 4: Plus four obviously is the draw four. Yeah, it's I
Speaker 4: mean that's like the that's like the turnover of an
Speaker 4: UNO game. It's the ultimately equalizer to step your game up.
Speaker 6: I feel like you're like a Yellow two guy. I
Speaker 6: feel like that's what you're about to come back with.
Speaker 4: Like yellow two. You guys, there was a Purple four.
Speaker 5: That's behind the times. You guys are behind the times.
Speaker 5: I definitely would, but I told you there's a new
Speaker 5: U No called No Mercy. No Mercy I've played it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: draw pay you to come in here today and start
Speaker 5: the show. Nothing withal.
Speaker 4: I like the wildcard, man. I like to be able
Speaker 4: to change the I get it now. This is so
Speaker 4: I've been.
Speaker 5: I mean, like the Draw four is cool, but like
Speaker 5: it doesn't hit home, Like I want to change the
Speaker 5: color to what works in my benefit or to what
Speaker 5: which you don't have.
Speaker 6: I've been sitting at lunch with Danny McCrae this week
Speaker 6: over here in the training table, and every every day
Speaker 6: apparently at his lunch table he brings like a just
Speaker 6: outside of the box questions kind of Yesterday he was like, Okay,
Speaker 6: if you go to like a mall in Miami over
Speaker 6: the weekend and you see a ten foot alien, you.
Speaker 4: Know, did y'all hear about all the Miami stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 6: It was like, would you come back to work and
Speaker 6: tell people or would you think that like nobody would
Speaker 6: believe you.
Speaker 4: And we spent like thirty minutes on the topic. It
Speaker 4: was actually like I would definitely say it. I don't know,
Speaker 4: I would definitely say I would definitely tell you. Yeah.
Speaker 4: He was also like, with the people around you believe you, man,
Speaker 4: I'm not concerned about that I'm just That's kind of
Speaker 4: how I was.
Speaker 6: But I was like, if it's out in the news
Speaker 6: and there's reports and I saw it with my own eyes, yeah,
Speaker 6: I'm telling people, but it was like just me and
Speaker 6: I saw a ten foot alien outside walking in I
Speaker 6: don't know what I'm doing with that information.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of reports something guy dressed as a
Speaker 4: ten foot alien. Unless it was real. Is that? Is
Speaker 4: that a problem? Is that something that?
Speaker 7: So?
Speaker 4: Listen, So I watched age the room. Maybe I'm just behind,
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm just behind.
Speaker 5: But obviously at the National Championship game, watching the game
Speaker 5: and they're, you know, getting ready to do the national
Speaker 5: anthem and all that stuff, right, and.
Speaker 4: They're doing a color guard. There was an alien. No, no,
Speaker 4: there's no alien. But listen, but check this out. So
Speaker 4: what are the branches of.
Speaker 6: The military of Army, Navy, Forum and Air Force?
Speaker 4: Space? For you? Missing one? Space force? Did you know
Speaker 4: that there's a freaking space force? Now it's relatively new.
Speaker 4: Why do we need a space force because there's aliens?
Speaker 4: There's a freaking branch space force.
Speaker 1: It's mostly because space like combat can go up into
Speaker 1: the into the That's what it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a legitimate for satellites, space force asteroids of course. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you gotta go bow up asteroids. That's why you need
Speaker 4: a whole force for that. Yeah, armageddi this is about
Speaker 4: to turn to Aaron Rodgers, Pat McAfee. That's what it's
Speaker 4: already turning in. I was, I was shocked.
Speaker 8: I was, I was.
Speaker 4: I couldn't believe it. Like the military, I mean, you
Speaker 4: didn't know about this, so I usually am. That's why
Speaker 4: I was asked another reason the vehicle. You know who
Speaker 4: else was shocked? The Washington offense apparently.
Speaker 5: Apparently, but Bro I told my son, I said, Bro,
Speaker 5: I said, I said, you gotta be a part of
Speaker 5: space Force.
Speaker 4: That's I need my son to do that. Thought you
Speaker 4: were going to say you were looking for application.
Speaker 6: No, I'm pretty sure I aged out that cyberstructure going
Speaker 6: to be in the space.
Speaker 5: For problem today you might have a free free fast
Speaker 5: my son. My son is smart enough to be in
Speaker 5: a Space Force, so I'm sure.
Speaker 9: Huh, he might be too tall for it.
Speaker 4: Can't be in space force if you're too what's the
Speaker 4: height limiteds.
Speaker 9: I don't know. For the Space Shuttle, I feel like
Speaker 9: for to be a fighter pilot.
Speaker 4: You can be no no no no, no no no.
Speaker 4: We're talking about space shuttles.
Speaker 10: Bro.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but if you're an if you're in a jetty,
Speaker 4: can you get to that level?
Speaker 10: I mean, I will say there was a kid that
Speaker 10: you just go from just driving a car to now
Speaker 10: I think there's any background of any type.
Speaker 6: Of Well, I'll kind of give you an answer here.
Speaker 6: There was a kid that I covered at my last job.
Speaker 6: He's actually the starting guard for the Texas Longhorns right now,
Speaker 6: Hayden Connor. He wants to be an astronaut. It's like
Speaker 6: why he went to Texas. He's doing all these like
Speaker 6: astro dynamics or whatever. He's like six foot four and
Speaker 6: like he's I asked him. I was like, can you
Speaker 6: go to space? He's like, yeah, yeah, they make things
Speaker 6: for like tall people.
Speaker 4: Okay, I have that answer. The minimum height it's four
Speaker 4: foot ten and a half inches. You got that one.
Speaker 4: The maximum height is six foot four. Wow. Wow he's back.
Speaker 5: I'm in the game baby anyway. So yeah, sorry, but
Speaker 5: I was. I was literally sitting there with my jaw dropped.
Speaker 5: I was like, Bro, there's the Space Force. This is awesome.
Speaker 1: Well I'm going to take both of Isaiah's crazy questions
Speaker 1: to start this show, and I'm going to somehow relate
Speaker 1: it into this. This wild card matchup is out of
Speaker 1: this world between the Packers and the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: Give us the news and notes. I don't know how
Speaker 4: I liked that.
Speaker 6: Okay, we'll start with the practice report coming off of yesterday,
Speaker 6: the first day that the Packers and the Cowboys were
Speaker 6: on the practice field getting ready for uh what is it?
Speaker 4: Oh, oh, my gosh.
Speaker 6: Okay, and to get ready for the wildcard game this week.
Speaker 6: So we can start with the Cowboys side notables. Stefan
Speaker 6: Gilmour did not practice with his shoulder injury yesterday. We
Speaker 6: talked to Mike McCarthy in the press conference. It sounds
Speaker 6: like they're going to try and rehab him today tomorrow
Speaker 6: and then hopefully get him back on the field in
Speaker 6: time for Saturday. That plan in the past has kind
Speaker 6: of left things questionable as far as guys playing. But
Speaker 6: you talked to Stefan gilmore you talk to anybody.
Speaker 4: The expectation is that he's playing on Sunday.
Speaker 6: So there's a little bit more confidence than there has
Speaker 6: been with previous guys that sit out Wednesday Thursday Friday.
Speaker 6: Looking forward into the practice report, Jonathan Hankins was initially
Speaker 6: listed as did not practice, and I think it caused
Speaker 6: kind of a concern, but the team came back and
Speaker 6: corrected that he was actually limited yesterday. Tyler Smith was
Speaker 6: back on the practice field yesterday, limited reps. He was
Speaker 6: there doing all the drills in the portion that the
Speaker 6: media saw inside the Ford Center yesterday. And then Zach
Speaker 6: Martin he was resting yesterday, but we did talk to
Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy. Sounds like he's good coming off of that
Speaker 6: flu and he should be ready to go this week.
Speaker 11: Okay.
Speaker 10: Gilmore said that there's a good chance to play with
Speaker 10: one of those harnesses, which he's done before, so there'll
Speaker 10: be some limitation there, but he sounds like he's ready
Speaker 10: to go.
Speaker 1: That's a good thing to look at, and I think
Speaker 1: without Gilmore it's a significant drop off.
Speaker 4: We had that conversation a couple of days ago about
Speaker 4: who would you rather not have and what it would do.
Speaker 1: To have that top guy, that starter drop off and
Speaker 1: what the next replacement would be. Yeah, Stephan Gilmour to
Speaker 1: na Sean right is the biggest drop off. And that's
Speaker 1: nothing against Naeon right, but it's also a credit to
Speaker 1: what Stephan Gilmore has done to this point.
Speaker 6: Well, speaking of six foot four, I did talk to
Speaker 6: Naean right in the locker room yesterday for a little bit,
Speaker 6: just being like, are you preparing this week any differently,
Speaker 6: you know, just in case Gilmore can't go, and it's
Speaker 6: business as usual for him. If he can step in,
Speaker 6: he'll step in. He feels like he did really well
Speaker 6: in the Commanders. He got good reviews coming off of
Speaker 6: that from the coaching staff or good grading I guess
Speaker 6: coming out from the coaching staff out of that second
Speaker 6: half against the Commanders.
Speaker 4: So take that for what it's worth.
Speaker 6: The Packer's side, the only real thing that I think
Speaker 6: should be looked at is aj Dillon is battling a
Speaker 6: knee or excuse me, a thumb and a neck injury.
Speaker 4: He did not practice yesterday.
Speaker 6: That'd be big if the Packers can't have that secondary
Speaker 6: back for Aaron Jones. I mean, Aaron Jones has been
Speaker 6: toting that thing quite a bit last three weeks, and
Speaker 6: he's been doing a good job of it. But having
Speaker 6: one less guy in that room would I be to
Speaker 6: be helpful towards the Cowboys run defense.
Speaker 4: Efforts.
Speaker 1: Mario in South Texas says the Cowboys have an alien.
Speaker 1: His name is Michael Parsons.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we see one every day. So yeah, he's walking
Speaker 4: around the locker room for He wasn't though, an nfl
Speaker 4: p A All Pro though.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's uh, that's kind of wild. A second year
Speaker 6: in a row he's not an nfl p A All Pro.
Speaker 6: So the nfl PA Players Association, they the players vote
Speaker 6: on quote unquote All pros. The actual All Pro list
Speaker 6: is Friday a p from the AP. But uh, yeah,
Speaker 6: five Cowboys were on the list this year. Let me
Speaker 6: see if I can ride a little off the look
Speaker 6: at the list with Ceedee Lamb, Tyler Smith, Deron Bland,
Speaker 6: Brandon Aubrey, and Zach Martin.
Speaker 4: So those were all five. That was pretty quick. He
Speaker 4: didn't have any hesitation. Yeah, I hesitated a little bit
Speaker 4: on Zach. That's okay, I give.
Speaker 10: It to you.
Speaker 4: Uh do you think that's any level of motivation for
Speaker 4: for Michael Parsons.
Speaker 6: No, for nfl P I will say though, like he's
Speaker 6: he did say like two and a half three weeks ago,
Speaker 6: he was like he was asked about some sort of
Speaker 6: a war that like the media it may be DIFFERENTI
Speaker 6: Player of the Year actually maybe because it was that
Speaker 6: stuff was kind of cooking up, and he was like,
Speaker 6: you know, at the end of the day, I don't
Speaker 6: really care. You know, what I do care about is
Speaker 6: the NFL Top one hundred because players vote on that.
Speaker 4: You know, I'll listen to the players.
Speaker 6: And now I'm like, I'm curious, how long these days
Speaker 6: been for you?
Speaker 9: It's literally asked that last week.
Speaker 4: It was last week.
Speaker 9: It was last week.
Speaker 4: Wow, Like.
Speaker 6: Earlier in the season, I said, like a few weeks ago.
Speaker 6: Oh wow, Yeah, I have been to I have driven
Speaker 6: like forty five hours in the last week. It's been
Speaker 6: this last week. It's felt like two years. You know how,
Speaker 6: like every January feels like it's the longest month of
Speaker 6: the year. I felt like I've already lived two months already,
Speaker 6: Like I am cooked. But any who should be March already.
Speaker 6: It should be like draft time.
Speaker 1: I'm okay with it taking a little bit of time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've got a busy March coming up.
Speaker 6: Same, I feel like we have to dive into this.
Speaker 6: I mean, all these coaching changes that have happened in
Speaker 6: the last twenty four hours.
Speaker 4: Talk about it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Pete Carroll out in Seattle, Bill Belichick out in
Speaker 6: New England this morning, and you got to throw in
Speaker 6: Nick say even being out in Alabama. I know that's
Speaker 6: not NFL related, but that's huge news. All three of
Speaker 6: those guys.
Speaker 1: It's a little NFL related because of how many players
Speaker 1: he's put into the NFL, and one of which is
Speaker 1: a cornerstone.
Speaker 4: Of your franchise, and he's right behind your right shoulder.
Speaker 4: And Trayvon Diggs.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, so, but I think the one you have
Speaker 6: to look at in regards to the Cowboys is Pete
Speaker 6: Carroll being out in Seattle. You know, Dan Quinn obviously
Speaker 6: has a lot of connections to the Seahawks. He's already
Speaker 6: getting linked super quickly to that job. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: I think this is This one's interesting.
Speaker 4: This one's interesting.
Speaker 1: Let's hear from the man who was recruited by Pete
Speaker 1: Carroll and has kept up with that Seattle franchise because
Speaker 1: it's his hometown.
Speaker 4: We talked about this.
Speaker 5: I don't want to say we talked about this months ago,
Speaker 5: because John might say we talked about it last week, but.
Speaker 9: Ago, Hey, there's no reason to bring facts in this.
Speaker 5: No, we had a conversation about what it would take
Speaker 5: to really pull Dan Quinn away from this organization.
Speaker 4: Being there for the past two years, he.
Speaker 9: Was a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's been. He's been. He's been turning it down.
Speaker 5: He's been turning opportunities down and and nice, you know,
Speaker 5: pretty good opportunities over the past few seasons, you know,
Speaker 5: in terms of he's been the lead head coaching candidate
Speaker 5: across the league for the past two seasons. And we
Speaker 5: talked earlier and we I know, we kind of came
Speaker 5: to a consensus that, you know, the Chargers job would
Speaker 5: be hard for him to turn down, just because everything
Speaker 5: is seemingly in place personnel wise down there, offensively and
Speaker 5: defensively obviously, which is important to him.
Speaker 4: Solid D lines, you know, linebacker and secondary, all those
Speaker 4: guys are there.
Speaker 5: It's la But having conversations with DQ and knowing who
Speaker 5: DQ is, he doesn't. He genuinely hasn't had the urge
Speaker 5: to leave. But we did say if Seattle, I think
Speaker 5: we kind of just threw it out there. Seattle ever,
Speaker 5: I mean, Seattle Peek Carroll's going nowhere, but if Seattle
Speaker 5: ever popped up, that'd be the one man.
Speaker 4: Popped up Seattle, popped up there.
Speaker 12: And.
Speaker 5: I know John Schneider. I had a good relationship, a
Speaker 5: really good relationship with John Schneider at a GM down
Speaker 5: there and up there in Seattle. They don't make this
Speaker 5: move without knowing what their next move is already. They're
Speaker 5: not an organization that.
Speaker 4: They're not.
Speaker 5: They're a very calculated organization in terms of decision making.
Speaker 5: They know exactly how they feel, they know exactly the
Speaker 5: direction they want to go. Obviously you saw example of
Speaker 5: that most recently with Russell Wilson. They knew exactly what
Speaker 5: their plan was and they feel confident in it, and
Speaker 5: whether regardless of what everybody else thought. I don't believe
Speaker 5: that Coach Carroll steps aside and moves to the front
Speaker 5: office side of this of that organization without them knowing
Speaker 5: that the next person that is stepping in already is
Speaker 5: solidified and they can continue the culture that is that
Speaker 5: of the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 4: And I know people don't want to hear that. I
Speaker 4: hear it, and there's obviously I don't know.
Speaker 5: This is me just speaking from my experience from being
Speaker 5: in that building and having relationships with those people and
Speaker 5: knowing what that city is all about and that culture
Speaker 5: and that community everything right. They want to keep that culture.
Speaker 5: There's a very unique culture in Seattle, and there's only
Speaker 5: so many people who have had their hands on that
Speaker 5: who are in positions to take that take that position
Speaker 5: they have the head coach and continue that. And I
Speaker 5: think that just my opinion, I think DQ is the
Speaker 5: only person that Coach Carroll wild step aside.
Speaker 9: For what about Nick saven No.
Speaker 5: Got to total opposite personality. That's that's just my genuine thought.
Speaker 5: I don't want to scare people. I don't want people
Speaker 5: to feel like I know more than everybody else in
Speaker 5: terms of what dan Quinn's thinking.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 5: But I do know Coach Carroll, I do know John Schneider.
Speaker 5: I do know the Seattle Seahawks in that city. It
Speaker 5: would take a lot for Coach Carroll to step aside
Speaker 5: and pass that off, to pass the torch off to somebody.
Speaker 4: They're not going to say, hey.
Speaker 5: Coach Carroll, all right, step aside, and they're be like,
Speaker 5: all right, now, let's figure out where we want to go.
Speaker 4: Let's see any meaning. That's not how they move now.
Speaker 6: I'd be surprised if dan Quinn is not the guy,
Speaker 6: I'd be super surprised. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, So it's
Speaker 6: it's it's that time of the hear man.
Speaker 1: And like Isaiah mentioned, we've had the conversation previously of Okay,
Speaker 1: he's still in Dallas for a reason. He has the pieces,
Speaker 1: he wants to wait for the right opportunity. You could
Speaker 1: argue there's two right.
Speaker 4: Opportunities right now.
Speaker 1: You've got a loaded Seattle team that just pretty much
Speaker 1: needs a solidified future quarterback, and then you're you're cooking
Speaker 1: with gas. And then you've got the Chargers who have
Speaker 1: their solidified future quarterback.
Speaker 4: They just need some pieces around it.
Speaker 1: And then you've got two spots that you could say
Speaker 1: that fits dan Quinn's mold.
Speaker 9: You don't think New England's in there.
Speaker 4: They've got a lot of long, longer way to go.
Speaker 1: I think with I think with what Belichick leaves behind
Speaker 1: in terms of a history and a lore of the franchise.
Speaker 4: It's always going to be in the conversation. But I
Speaker 4: don't know, just roster wise, I don't think they're up
Speaker 4: there with those other two. What do you think about that?
Speaker 10: I think Robert Crafts hired two a coaches and it's
Speaker 10: been peek carrolln Bill Belichick them, I'm just gonna bad
Speaker 10: that he probably heres a decent coach this.
Speaker 4: Time, pretty solid coach.
Speaker 10: I think New England is a lot more attractive than
Speaker 10: a lot of those jobs that were open last year.
Speaker 9: So that's the only reason I throw it in there.
Speaker 9: Do you think it's a build?
Speaker 1: But yeah, do you think it's as attractive as Los
Speaker 1: Angeles or Seattle?
Speaker 4: Maybe not? Not even just for for dan Quinn specifically.
Speaker 10: Just one's tough because obviously they have the franchise quarterback,
Speaker 10: They've got a lot around.
Speaker 9: People really care about the Chargers.
Speaker 10: That's building with somebody else that I don't know, if
Speaker 10: they're just New England papers. Just what Bill has helped
Speaker 10: build it to, yep, is on such a level where man,
Speaker 10: that's that that's a good that's a great job.
Speaker 9: I know that it needs some retooling in that, but
Speaker 9: that's a that's a great job.
Speaker 5: I don't want to bring it. There's a couple of
Speaker 5: things that people don't really at least from the outside.
Speaker 5: I would imagine most fans don't really take into account
Speaker 5: when they're thinking about positions being field. One of which
Speaker 5: is culture, which is obviously I'm big on. I was
Speaker 5: able to have more insight on dan Quinn coming into
Speaker 5: the Cowboys and commony there from me some years back
Speaker 5: because I knew the type of culture that he came
Speaker 5: from in Seattle, and I knew the type of energy
Speaker 5: he had and how he was going to be a
Speaker 5: culture changer, and that's what he's been. People don't need
Speaker 5: to take that into account in terms of potential fits.
Speaker 5: And then you have to take into account the stability
Speaker 5: of the management, all right, the stability of the front office.
Speaker 5: What does that front office look like when you're a
Speaker 5: coach that's going to step out of something that's very
Speaker 5: comfortable and you're going to step into another situation where
Speaker 5: you're now the guy and everybody's looking at you. The
Speaker 5: people that you have to work with that wear the
Speaker 5: suits or jar or hoodies, whatever they decide to wear. Okay,
Speaker 5: the track, Yeah, those that's very important because you have
Speaker 5: to You don't want to walk into a situation where
Speaker 5: you're trying to figure out if this is the relationship
Speaker 5: is going to work. That's why another reason why I
Speaker 5: say that Seattle is very difficult for him to turn
Speaker 5: down because he knows that organization, he knows the ownership
Speaker 5: group there obviously obviously you know the ownership is now
Speaker 5: passed off to the family.
Speaker 4: But you know there, he's not going anywhere.
Speaker 9: He dan Quinn is the obvious choice.
Speaker 10: But you don't think that there could be a potential
Speaker 10: dark horse, somebody that we're not even thinking about, that
Speaker 10: they are really high on, that they just haven't let out.
Speaker 5: That's that city, I don't. I mean, I mean, obviously
Speaker 5: there's a chance. I just I it's hard for me
Speaker 5: to imagine it. It's hard for me to imagine somebody
Speaker 5: who has not had their hand on that organization at
Speaker 5: some point in time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and had success there. Yes, I want to ring there. Correct.
Speaker 6: So to the point of New England, I think Mike
Speaker 6: Rabel is probably the guy. Yes, for sure, I think
Speaker 6: just too right. But you'll see there you go.
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Speaker 1: we come back, we're going to hit the film.
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Speaker 4: Isaiah, did you get him in? You know that's right
Speaker 4: because your your dad, dude. Yeah, speaking of that, I
Speaker 4: saw that last night, that win. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm at the store. Just ran into him, just random,
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Speaker 5: filling out the water bottles for the house. You don't
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Speaker 5: and I are out there filling ours up, and I'm
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Speaker 5: that d He's like the most unassuming guy?
Speaker 1: Is that that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's like the most unassuming guy, and like he's
Speaker 5: just driving the most basic of vehicles.
Speaker 4: And I was telling them it's kind of teaching my
Speaker 4: son unlesson.
Speaker 5: I'm like, dude, you would never know, you would never
Speaker 5: know his his background nor what he's doing now as
Speaker 5: a businessman.
Speaker 4: You would never know.
Speaker 9: And so he said, so appreciate the castle we live in.
Speaker 4: Shine. You know that you're staying every night, son, that's right,
Speaker 4: take no, but it was good to see that. I
Speaker 4: was thinking of the five gallon jugs of water that
Speaker 4: you were just filling. U. Yeah.
Speaker 9: How many are you doing at a time here?
Speaker 4: Yeah? We did three?
Speaker 5: Okay, we have five empty containers at the house. It's
Speaker 5: seven point fifty to buy a brand new word, yeah,
Speaker 5: and so it's but it's only two fifty to fill
Speaker 5: it up.
Speaker 4: You're thinking of jugs.
Speaker 6: Did that jug machine come in?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 4: It's in there body. Yeah.
Speaker 5: We're hitting the ground running tonight and soccer balls soccer
Speaker 5: ball jokes.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 11: Interesting.
Speaker 4: Let's time for a little QB vision here on talking cowboys.
Speaker 4: Why Eddie, why lady cut up?
Speaker 7: It's time for QB vision with Isaiah's stands back.
Speaker 4: Oh, Kyle, you're hilarious.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 6: What did I do?
Speaker 2: We did nothing? Nothing?
Speaker 4: You did nothing, man, nothing, You're awesome. Thanks man. Tell
Speaker 4: us about this packers defense packers defense.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 5: These guys are talking about unassuming. These guys are they're sneaky.
Speaker 5: They're sneaky.
Speaker 4: They don't Is that a nice way of saying they're
Speaker 4: not very good. No, they're actually okay. Okay, goehd they're
Speaker 4: actually okay.
Speaker 5: But there's not a lot that pops off on film
Speaker 5: when you watch these guys, right, it's just like they're
Speaker 5: just consistent.
Speaker 4: Let's go ahead and talk about what they do here statistically,
Speaker 4: So of these.
Speaker 5: Things that we have here, let me pull this up
Speaker 5: for you, all right, Statistically, Okay, when you look at
Speaker 5: their defense versus kind of our defense, just as in comparison,
Speaker 5: we run the third most single high in the league. Okay,
Speaker 5: we know we're single high defense. They run the fifth most.
Speaker 5: So these guys like to have one safety sitting back
Speaker 5: there at all times. They're also rare thirtieth and split safety.
Speaker 5: They're twenty fifth split safety, so is relatively obviously these
Speaker 5: guys want to play single high. But then when you
Speaker 5: look at the other stats in terms of man coverage,
Speaker 5: we're first in the league Dallas Cowboys, that is, at
Speaker 5: playing man and man coverage. These guys are right in
Speaker 5: the middle of the road. Okay, So just because you
Speaker 5: see them in single high doesn't mean that they're playing
Speaker 5: manda man. These guys mix it up in terms of
Speaker 5: nickel bass dime. That's all kind of kind of rolled
Speaker 5: in the couple things that you guys want to pay
Speaker 5: attention to. Dallas Cowboys are number one in the league
Speaker 5: in pressure rate. These guys are going to be sixth,
Speaker 5: So they are getting pressure and it's not always by
Speaker 5: blitzing all right. These guys are able to get some
Speaker 5: pressure with their defensive line, surprisingly because they're not doing
Speaker 5: anything amazing when you watch it on film. These guys
Speaker 5: are two gap, two gap type of defense. They got
Speaker 5: some fellas up front that can they just put two
Speaker 5: hands on you and just try to drive you back
Speaker 5: into the quarterback. They are physical upfront. That's one thing
Speaker 5: that does pop off the film to me. There's not
Speaker 5: a guy that you're like, oh my gosh, he's just
Speaker 5: this amazing pass rusher. They don't have a Mica, they
Speaker 5: don't have a Delud, they don't have guys that you
Speaker 5: will circle and be like, yeah, you might want to
Speaker 5: know where this guy's at at all times. It's just
Speaker 5: that they just play hard and they want to hit you.
Speaker 5: So that's something that is very apparent to me in
Speaker 5: terms of their defensive line. The one guy to me
Speaker 5: that does stick out on their defensive line is going
Speaker 5: to be ninety seven, and that's Kenny Clark's He's a
Speaker 5: big boy and he man. He's what six pretty much
Speaker 5: six three three and fifteen pounds, and he looks like it.
Speaker 5: He looks like he's physical. He's able to get underneath you,
Speaker 5: drive you back. I mean you constantly see guys getting
Speaker 5: offensive line and getting pushed two to three yards back
Speaker 5: when he decides to bull rush. So he is a
Speaker 5: problem and he shows up with some bad intentions when
Speaker 5: he actually gets to the quarterback outside of him up front,
Speaker 5: I would have to go to the next level. The
Speaker 5: guy that pops off film to me is gonna be
Speaker 5: kay Walker, number seven outside linebacker. He is their blitzing linebacker.
Speaker 5: He's the guy whenever they want to get pressure outside
Speaker 5: of their just front four. He's the man that they
Speaker 5: call on to come up there and go ahead and
Speaker 5: apply pressure.
Speaker 4: And he they usually find a way.
Speaker 5: To match him up against your running back like they
Speaker 5: know they do. They seemingly do a really good job
Speaker 5: of understanding what your blocking assignments are.
Speaker 4: Up front.
Speaker 5: They do what most other teams do, right. They take
Speaker 5: that defensive end, put him out in the wide nine.
Speaker 5: They take that, they take their five and they bump
Speaker 5: him down into a three technique and then they stunt
Speaker 5: him down towards your center. So now you're guarding your
Speaker 5: center have to collapse on that one defense. On that
Speaker 5: defense attack, that left tackle has to go out to
Speaker 5: the defensive end. And they literally isolate number seven, who's
Speaker 5: gonna be kway Walker. They isolate him on your running
Speaker 5: back and they say, yeah, good luck trying to block him.
Speaker 5: And this dude is Houdini. Not only is he is
Speaker 5: a good sized guy, but he is as agile as
Speaker 5: all get out.
Speaker 4: Can I pause you really good? Again?
Speaker 6: I will say the Green Bay Packers give up top
Speaker 6: five in the league and giving up explosive run plays,
Speaker 6: which is ten yards or more carries.
Speaker 4: I think this is a game for Tony Poller. Not really.
Speaker 6: I'm not scared of their run defense.
Speaker 1: Well, they're twenty eighth in the league in terms of
Speaker 1: rushing yards allowed on average, and they've had four games
Speaker 1: this year where they've allowed over two hundred rushing yards.
Speaker 4: Yeah, lower games.
Speaker 1: And if you think the Cowboys are bad at stopping
Speaker 1: the run, which at times they have been, they have
Speaker 1: two games so half of the amount of time where
Speaker 1: it's two hundred yards or more. And they're sixteenth in
Speaker 1: the NFL in terms of rushing yards allowed per game
Speaker 1: compared to twenty eighth with Green Bay. So you're talking
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys being maybe a below average run defense.
Speaker 4: The Packers have a bad run defense. So this is
Speaker 4: a chance. Absolutely, I totally agree with you.
Speaker 5: I know I'm talking in reference to their pass rush,
Speaker 5: and that's where I see them being most dangerous of
Speaker 5: the two as now.
Speaker 4: They're really good against the past. They're ninth against the.
Speaker 5: No saying they're good, They're they're solid at front. I said,
Speaker 5: it's not anything that just flashes off the film. But
Speaker 5: these guys, they they literally lock on. They'll drive you
Speaker 5: back up front, and then they find ways to isolate
Speaker 5: the guys that they want with one on one matchups.
Speaker 5: No different than Dan Quinn finding a way to match
Speaker 5: up MICHAELH. Parsons against an offensive you know, guard or
Speaker 5: a center.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: He finds ways scheme wise to say, Okay, you now isolated,
Speaker 5: have fun trying to block Micah. They do the same
Speaker 5: thing with with their linebacker in Quay. He's six four,
Speaker 5: two forty one, he's a he's a big boy, right,
Speaker 5: and he like again, he has those long arms, He's
Speaker 5: able to swim move guys throw running backs out the way,
Speaker 5: so you definitely need to be aware of him. They're
Speaker 5: running defense, like you guys mentioned, I'm not afraid of it,
Speaker 5: reason being from from the first thing I said. These
Speaker 5: guys are two gap defense. They're not running a lot
Speaker 5: of stunts, they're not doing a lot of movements. These
Speaker 5: guys literally are just locking on it, are coming downhill.
Speaker 5: So what you see is what you get pre snap
Speaker 5: post snap is pretty much the same. So in terms
Speaker 5: of I'm gonna say that down with Dak, Okay, that
Speaker 5: Dak answer that dude, how about that?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 4: As bad as one of my clients got this segment.
Speaker 5: In terms of Dak being able to put the offense
Speaker 5: in a good position to run the ball, there should
Speaker 5: be no problems here unless they change from what they've
Speaker 5: been showing on the film. Where they're at is where
Speaker 5: they're going to be. So that's because there's not there's
Speaker 5: not a lot of shifts on the defensive front. They're
Speaker 5: not changing their fronts from over to it under literally
Speaker 5: lining up and they're saying, let's play ball. So that's
Speaker 5: good from their from their regard as we go to
Speaker 5: the secondary, there's I'm not seeing a lot. I'm really
Speaker 5: not seeing a lot from their secondary. I know that
Speaker 5: the name of everybody's going to talk about it is
Speaker 5: gonna be you know, Jyry Alexander number twenty three. I
Speaker 5: haven't seen much from him on film. I haven't seen
Speaker 5: much at all.
Speaker 9: Like Duran kuain Cos.
Speaker 6: Had a new segment this week with him, he like
Speaker 6: he like hijacked a new segment and it was like.
Speaker 4: I did see that.
Speaker 6: He said something like the bag of going to be
Speaker 6: ready or something like that, and the news reporter was like,
Speaker 6: and we got a fan over here.
Speaker 4: She had no idea he was in street clothes and
Speaker 4: he just like popped over her shoulder.
Speaker 9: He did a little seat belt thing real quick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to back up the reporter here, because
Speaker 1: I mean that like totally photo bomb the end of
Speaker 1: our prost game show the other day, like Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: and I didn't even notice he was standing there.
Speaker 4: And so the only reason I knew he was there
Speaker 4: is because I had a monitor in front. If I
Speaker 4: would have.
Speaker 1: Flashed back, I mean he was in like a bright
Speaker 1: red suit too, So I probably would have noticed if
Speaker 1: I would have like flashed back and seen him.
Speaker 4: But if I didn't have the television monitor there, I
Speaker 4: would have had no idea where it was, no idea
Speaker 4: where you're mad and awareness is going down. Yeah, it's bad.
Speaker 4: It's like a live reporter.
Speaker 6: You're probably terrified that like somebody running up on your
Speaker 6: set is going to say something stupid. Oh, it's a
Speaker 6: real problem. You're like, Okay, you're just happy that it
Speaker 6: gets out and.
Speaker 5: That one guy used red around and saying something crazy.
Speaker 5: I don't remember anyways, But you guys know whatn't talking about.
Speaker 10: Okay, I know what you're talking about, the fact that
Speaker 10: in my brain I'm saying, like why is he bringing
Speaker 10: this up?
Speaker 4: What I'm saying that that was the thing? All right?
Speaker 5: So as we was gonna say it, you always got
Speaker 5: in trouble, buddy, all right. So as we go to
Speaker 5: the secondary. Okay, the secondary again, jyr Alexander, he hasn't
Speaker 5: shown up. He's doing more talking than he's doing playing
Speaker 5: right now, from what I can see on film, Uh,
Speaker 5: they're not asking these guys to play a lot of
Speaker 5: Mando man, so he's not getting opportunity to really show
Speaker 5: off what I think he does best with just pressed
Speaker 5: man coverage. Right, he's gonna talk. He wants to get up,
Speaker 5: put his hands on you, and stay in your hip pocket.
Speaker 5: These guys are not playing a lot of man and man.
Speaker 5: Whenever they are playing mand of man is usually because
Speaker 5: they're blitzing. So if you see their technique change and
Speaker 5: their cornerbacks do an awful job Hopefully they're not listening
Speaker 5: to this, but their corner do an awful job of
Speaker 5: hiding coverage. Meaning majority of the time, these guys are
Speaker 5: playing cover three. Okay, one safety back, four guys underneath.
Speaker 5: The cornerbacks are playing off and outside. That's how you
Speaker 5: draw it up on paper when you're teaching, you know,
Speaker 5: your middle school team, that's how they line up. These
Speaker 5: guys are off and outside about sixty seven yards and
Speaker 5: they're looking inside.
Speaker 4: That's one of them.
Speaker 5: Key, Key, how's the word? I just freaking dropped the word?
Speaker 5: Indicators that you look for as a quarterback. If I
Speaker 5: come out, I see single high and I want to
Speaker 5: know whether or not it's cover three or as man.
Speaker 5: I'm looking at the how the cornerbacks are lined up.
Speaker 5: Are they are they pressed it inside? Are they pressed
Speaker 5: in head?
Speaker 4: Up. Are they off and head up right?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 5: Okay, that's probably man and man coverage. If they're off
Speaker 5: and outside they're looking in towards me, it's zone right,
Speaker 5: So it's cover three. I already got you figured out now,
Speaker 5: really good cornerbacks and good defenses. Obviously they'll mess around
Speaker 5: with that alignment. I'll line up inside to show like
Speaker 5: this press man, and then right at the snapper of
Speaker 5: the ball, jump and change my technique. A lot of
Speaker 5: different ways that guys mess around with you. But these
Speaker 5: guys don't. They line up and they show you what
Speaker 5: they're what they're playing. Coverage wise, with that, you should
Speaker 5: know what the heck's going on. From Dak's perspective, you
Speaker 5: should know that it's cover three. You should have no issues.
Speaker 5: And if they see, if you see them change their
Speaker 5: alignment right, all of aously, they're not off and outside.
Speaker 5: You look out there, these guys are now pressed man.
Speaker 5: I was like, okay, now you're probably playing man. Now,
Speaker 5: let me find out who's blizzing, and that's typically the
Speaker 5: indicator and the guy that they're usually freeing up. I
Speaker 5: guarantee you look down, there's probably a three technique and
Speaker 5: a nine technique and there's a number seven off the
Speaker 5: ball at the second level. That's the guy that they
Speaker 5: want to get matched up against your running back. As
Speaker 5: I mentioned before, So not a lot going on in
Speaker 5: this secondary. It's usually three, it's usually one. If it's one,
Speaker 5: then something's usually coming, something's usually brewing.
Speaker 6: I know this is a long time ago. This is
Speaker 6: like feels like three months ago. It'd be like a
Speaker 6: year if we were talking me. But when the Cowboys
Speaker 6: play the Rams and you were looking at the Rams defense,
Speaker 6: Brian Schottenheimer earlier in the week compared this defense to
Speaker 6: that one schematic wise and personnel wise.
Speaker 4: Do you remember, Yeah, yeah, I like, I like then
Speaker 4: a couple of times. Yeah. I neuralize myself every week.
Speaker 10: I'm surprised to see that the opponent's passer raining against
Speaker 10: is like ninety four point seven, which is like top
Speaker 10: ten worst in the league.
Speaker 9: Only picked off seven passes. That's just the worst in
Speaker 9: the NFC.
Speaker 10: So I was kind of I don't know, I just
Speaker 10: kind of surprised that I was really surprised at Tennessee.
Speaker 10: Is what leads the NFL in that they've only picked
Speaker 10: off six. I just think of the packer, especially with
Speaker 10: the jay r Alexander. If you're not watching them a time,
Speaker 10: you're just like, oh, okay, well they probably are middle
Speaker 10: of the pack or something like that. And if you
Speaker 10: look at the numbers and you're like, they can definitely
Speaker 10: throw on this team, there's no question.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you'll be able to through all day.
Speaker 5: And I think a lot of times the reason why
Speaker 5: they're playing that single high is because of what you said,
Speaker 5: their run defense is not solid, so they're trying to
Speaker 5: have that extra man to the box. They can't afford
Speaker 5: to have two guys back deep because they're gonna be
Speaker 5: you know, only six guys in a box.
Speaker 4: They're lighting the butt, But.
Speaker 6: It also feels like against the pass, they're just trying
Speaker 6: to keep everything underneath. You Like, as long as they
Speaker 6: don't let anything over the top, they're fine. But they're
Speaker 6: really good at not a glowing, explosive pass plays. I
Speaker 6: think that's just as a result and if this works
Speaker 6: great for this offense, because this offense is so West
Speaker 6: Coast heavy, middle of the field, just don't see any issue.
Speaker 5: But the thing is like, typically if you're trying to
Speaker 5: keep everything in front, you're not playing a single high, right,
Speaker 5: So like you literally can overload a single high cover
Speaker 5: three type scheme, I can put three guys to one side,
Speaker 5: and I can run seams and I can pick you apart.
Speaker 5: The one thing that these guys do a good job of,
Speaker 5: which is probably why they're limiting some of those plays,
Speaker 5: because they're second level defenders, their linebackers, and they roll
Speaker 5: down safety, they get a lot of depth, they get
Speaker 5: underneath your routes. So I mean, typically where these guys' responsibilities,
Speaker 5: it's kind of be around that seven to eight yard range.
Speaker 5: These guys are dropping twelve fourteen yards back right, the
Speaker 5: cornerbacks are playing off and outside, they're getting back and
Speaker 5: playing over the top, and they're allowing their second level
Speaker 5: defenders to really get a lot of depth, which means
Speaker 5: that sometimes you might have to check it down to
Speaker 5: your running back and let him get some yak yardage.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: So from that regard, they're trying to play a Cover
Speaker 5: four type like scheme. Mentally, I guess you know you
Speaker 5: know that that type of approach with a single high safety.
Speaker 5: So it's kind of weird how they're there that they're
Speaker 5: asking those guys to say, Hey, we're gonna say a
Speaker 5: single high We're gonna have run support. But when you
Speaker 5: guys see that's passed, drop out of there, like, get
Speaker 5: the heck out of there. Oh one thing I forgot
Speaker 5: to mention. They green dog. One of the few teams
Speaker 5: that I've seen this year to actually green dog. Green
Speaker 5: dog means that if you're a linebacker, okay, your responsibility
Speaker 5: is me and man and man coverage. As a as
Speaker 5: a running back, as soon as I see and say
Speaker 5: a run play action, as soon as I see that
Speaker 5: I'm not getting the ball, you have free range to
Speaker 5: go ahead and rush the passer. Like my responsibility is
Speaker 5: the running back. If the running back is not going
Speaker 5: out into a route and he's not getting the ball,
Speaker 5: I can blitz. I have free range to blitz. And
Speaker 5: you'll see that. I see that sometimes with them, they'll
Speaker 5: come up, the linebacker will kind of take a little
Speaker 5: jab step. He'll see their running backs not not going anywhere,
Speaker 5: and he's he's off right. It's like he has the
Speaker 5: green the green light to just go.
Speaker 6: Which is interesting because you have seen Tony Pollard a
Speaker 6: couple of times like start off in pass protection, then
Speaker 6: leak out, so you know, just shave him.
Speaker 5: Real quick and then though, yeah, get it off because
Speaker 5: those guys, there's definitely coming.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you break it the ball off.
Speaker 10: I always find it interesting when you talk about all
Speaker 10: the different things that these teams do on the back end.
Speaker 10: And then yesterday Dak in his locker, I think you're
Speaker 10: ove there for a little bit just just talking off
Speaker 10: the record, just about you know, seeing things inside out
Speaker 10: versus outside and stuff like that, and when he when
Speaker 10: he was talking about it, and a lot of time
Speaker 10: when you're.
Speaker 9: Talking about the stuff, I just it's so fascinating to
Speaker 9: me because.
Speaker 10: It's like for the average person, it would be difficult
Speaker 10: to dissect this and hit the open receiver with no
Speaker 10: pass rush you just standing out there and just having
Speaker 10: like to get the ball out quick, especially at the
Speaker 10: NFL level, especially at.
Speaker 9: A playoff level, of how teams are playing.
Speaker 10: It is so I mean, obviously people talk about the
Speaker 10: arm strength and all it, but like upstairs, what these
Speaker 10: guys have to have, you know, to be able to execute,
Speaker 10: because how quick like these windows open and close, and
Speaker 10: and how you have to read things a certain way,
Speaker 10: and how guy's got to be on the same page
Speaker 10: with you. It is it's just fascinating, like that stuff
Speaker 10: will never get old to me. I'm always like blown
Speaker 10: away by all of that because again, like that's what
Speaker 10: no pass rush, so I can't even imagine, like, and
Speaker 10: then you add in like a guy like a Drew
Speaker 10: Brees being a little bit shorter, and you've got the
Speaker 10: big offensive line, right, Like, I just don't think that.
Speaker 10: I don't know how the NFL would do it, but
Speaker 10: I don't know that fans get the real perspective. I
Speaker 10: guess you'd have to put a camera on the quarterback,
Speaker 10: which teams don't want to do, right, But I'm saying like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 10: that's sure they did. I'm just like I think I
Speaker 10: think people would have far more appreciation and more understanding
Speaker 10: of why, you know, everyone does these quarterback ranking lists
Speaker 10: of how why there's really only five to ten that
Speaker 10: are really super super elite in the world, Like you know,
Speaker 10: I mean, it just it's it is amazing.
Speaker 1: It is incredible, And it almost would look like the
Speaker 1: old they had the ESPN video games back in the day,
Speaker 1: like two K and that you would have like the
Speaker 1: first person mode where you have like the whole face
Speaker 1: mask in front of you and you're just running around
Speaker 1: kind of doing your own thing.
Speaker 4: It wouldn't even be closed. It would be even more
Speaker 4: harder than that.
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Speaker 5: SpongeBob both Wes. Welker was party boy.
Speaker 4: I bet one was Patrick remember that?
Speaker 5: Yeah that SpongeBob T twelve Yeah, TV twelve was there?
Speaker 5: Him and Gazelle Okay, yeah, she was pregnant at the time.
Speaker 9: Did he dress up?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: They both dressed up.
Speaker 9: Okay, so everybody that was there actually dressed up.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it was a fun party, was amazing. Who
Speaker 4: was Tom? Tom was I don't think? Okay, nice, Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's good. Different, No, I think he was. I think
Speaker 4: he was a pip too, but she was, but she
Speaker 4: had like yeah, let's not time. Okay, sold many references today.
Speaker 4: That was a fun night. I can tell you that.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to find the picture for me dressed up
Speaker 5: that night. I know I didn't post a picture of
Speaker 5: me and Coach Belichick, but I think I posted a
Speaker 5: picture of just me dressed up that night.
Speaker 10: Of all the NFL films, like behind the scenes videos,
Speaker 10: and there's a lot of great ones that's one of
Speaker 10: my favorite the Randy going to Bill talking about that,
Speaker 10: and I think it's in the same episode as a
Speaker 10: I think it's all about bell check. But Brady sitting
Speaker 10: down with him and they're going over film and they're
Speaker 10: just like dissecting.
Speaker 9: They highlighted ed Reid and like, how.
Speaker 4: Difficult that was me that night he went them off
Speaker 4: as alignment. Turn around and show it to nixt Oh
Speaker 4: there you go. Oh man, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 7: Andre the giant.
Speaker 4: Oh man.
Speaker 9: All right, let's get to this question.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get to the question. Anthony and Seattle. And
Speaker 1: this has been a conversation I think on Cowboys Twitter
Speaker 1: a little bit. Hopefully dan Quinn potentially leaving motivates the
Speaker 1: current Dallas Cowboys, the current guys on this defense going
Speaker 1: into the playoffs this year.
Speaker 4: Uh, what do you how do you feel like that.
Speaker 1: Impacts this defense knowing that that could be a possibility
Speaker 1: as a player, as somebody that's on the outside looking
Speaker 1: in is NFL insiders like you guys, does it matter
Speaker 1: knowing that dan Quinn's possibly out of.
Speaker 4: Here at the end of this campaigns us, Yes, it matters.
Speaker 5: Why because you got to go get it not to
Speaker 5: say that you didn't have that mindset already, but it's
Speaker 5: it's a heightened sense of awareness that hey, we might not.
Speaker 4: Be the same next year. You got one shot at this.
Speaker 4: Yeah we might not.
Speaker 5: There's a high probability, greater than it's been over the
Speaker 5: past two seasons. I know he's been hearing at the
Speaker 5: last two years, but now anybody who has any kind
Speaker 5: of antennas knows that there's a heidened chance of him leaving,
Speaker 5: and you might want to go take advantage of this
Speaker 5: because who knows who's going to be leading this next year.
Speaker 4: For what it's worth.
Speaker 6: We asked Ron Bland kind of that question yesterday in
Speaker 6: the locker room, and he was like, man, I'm focused
Speaker 6: on this journey the guys we have right now, Like
Speaker 6: I'm not worried about any of that. But also that's
Speaker 6: just who Doron is. He probably doesn't like pick up
Speaker 6: his phone until like ten pm every night. He still
Speaker 6: has his high school huddle highlights like depended on his Twitter.
Speaker 6: Like that's how like under the radar?
Speaker 4: Are you good for him?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I love? Why is it all pro I wish I
Speaker 4: could be that?
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's tough.
Speaker 10: I was staying there when Yeah, Bland gave that answer
Speaker 10: to and that part of it made me think of how,
Speaker 10: especially if you're a younger player, you're just like you're
Speaker 10: you got so much going on, and it's the playoffs.
Speaker 10: Everything's heightened that. I'm sure even with him though, it
Speaker 10: adds a little something. They're a little bit of a
Speaker 10: sense of urgency because of that. But I also think
Speaker 10: having Dak Prescott on his team and him being able
Speaker 10: to share how he's been so open about twenty sixteen
Speaker 10: YEA and admits that, hey, he thought this league was
Speaker 10: gonna be easier because of how smooth things went.
Speaker 9: I remember those times.
Speaker 10: I remember Scott Lenahan talking outside of the locker room
Speaker 10: saying how like, yeah, I got to remind him sometimes
Speaker 10: this is how it always goes, and stuff like that.
Speaker 9: And so because of that, I know.
Speaker 10: That Dak is a big proponent of like, man, you
Speaker 10: don't get these opportunities all the time, you take advantage
Speaker 10: of them. But also, yeah, I certainly think with the
Speaker 10: dan Quinn situation, I just the only part of it
Speaker 10: is I wonder how many players on the team even know, Like,
Speaker 10: how many guys are sitting around going.
Speaker 9: Man, did you see that Seattle job?
Speaker 4: Just open man.
Speaker 9: Dan's gonna take that.
Speaker 10: I'm not saying that there aren't any Yeah, but I
Speaker 10: just find it hard to believe that there's a lot.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I bet you that conversation's been had,
Speaker 1: But yeah, there's people focused.
Speaker 4: I'll share this story even though we're not technically supposed
Speaker 4: to share what we see in the lunch room. Now,
Speaker 4: this is really, this is cool. This is a cool story.
Speaker 4: I was walking back from a workout.
Speaker 1: They had, like a boot camp thing that they run
Speaker 1: on Wednesday afternoons. And I was walking back yesterday and hey,
Speaker 1: I invite you every week. You just said you don't
Speaker 1: like working out anymore.
Speaker 4: I was walking back through and there were balloons.
Speaker 1: There was like a whole thing of balloons, and there
Speaker 1: was a gold fifty and I was like, that's cool,
Speaker 1: like somebody's birthday.
Speaker 4: I wonder whose birthday it is, John Fossil, And they
Speaker 4: had a whole setup in the table.
Speaker 1: His family was in there, and there was just like
Speaker 1: a special moment between him and his family.
Speaker 4: But I thought about it a little bit more.
Speaker 1: I was like, not only is that a cool moment
Speaker 1: of like, hey, he's getting to celebrate his birthday, but
Speaker 1: he's at the office and this was at like six
Speaker 1: thirty yesterday. He's at the office at six thirty and
Speaker 1: he's going to stay for long enough to where his
Speaker 1: family had to come in to the office and celebrate
Speaker 1: his birthday, which, by the way, happy birthday, John.
Speaker 9: But uh, being around him and knowing him, does that
Speaker 9: surprise you though.
Speaker 4: Not even a single bit?
Speaker 1: And I think from the outside looking in, you forget
Speaker 1: that there's human elements to playoff runs, human elements to
Speaker 1: the NFL. And you mentioned it a couple of days ago,
Speaker 1: the how this is the time of year where these
Speaker 1: guys don't leave the building.
Speaker 4: They don't leave, they barely sleep.
Speaker 1: If they do, it's it may be here, it may
Speaker 1: be as close as you can get to here because
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 4: Nothing but eat, sleep, breathe football.
Speaker 1: And so even having a special moment like that, it
Speaker 1: is something that stuck out to me of like this
Speaker 1: staff is locked in and he wasn't the only one
Speaker 1: in the building.
Speaker 4: I could say it like he's those hours, everyone was
Speaker 4: there and it was. It was just kind of something
Speaker 4: that stuck out to me and something I thought I
Speaker 4: should win out.
Speaker 10: Well, It's always interesting when players like you ask like
Speaker 10: players like towards the end of their careers or even
Speaker 10: after their career is over, guys have been.
Speaker 9: A league for a long time, and you'll be like,
Speaker 9: so what do you think, man?
Speaker 10: Maybe like coaching that, and so many guys would be like, no,
Speaker 10: I'm not trying to in those hours.
Speaker 5: I literally had one of my one of my old
Speaker 5: teammates text me last night after this the Seattle news
Speaker 5: came out. He was like, so, what you think about coaching?
Speaker 5: I'm like, what about coaching? He's like, would you go
Speaker 5: up to Seattle?
Speaker 4: One coach?
Speaker 5: I'm like, bro, it would take so much money. And
Speaker 5: then he started throwing out numbers. I'm like, yeah, no,
Speaker 5: that's that's not going to be enough to get me
Speaker 5: up there.
Speaker 4: And what was hours? Huh? What was your number? You
Speaker 4: want me to be a jerk? He threw out some
Speaker 4: numbers and I was like, nah, that's not gonna be enough.
Speaker 4: He threw out one number. I'm like, I'm a safe space.
Speaker 4: This is a safe space.
Speaker 5: The numbers started. He mentioned no, it was three hundred.
Speaker 5: Once he said three hundred. I said, okay, I'm listening.
Speaker 4: Three hundred thousands.
Speaker 5: Million, Yeah, stacks, Come on, I said, I'm listening, but
Speaker 5: it would take me. Those hours are crazy. You don't
Speaker 5: see your family, like you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 5: those guys sacrifice so much. And speaking of birthday, shout out,
Speaker 5: today's my brother's fiftieth birthday up, so shout out Jamorrow Williams.
Speaker 4: I love you, bro, You're you're old.
Speaker 5: But yeah, those guys don't see they don't see their
Speaker 5: fans the way they want to, right and when they
Speaker 5: do see their family, well, yeah, they're moving. But the
Speaker 5: thing is, like, you don't see your kid before you leave.
Speaker 5: You're leaving while your kids still sleep. You're here in
Speaker 5: the building by the time they're waking up, and you're
Speaker 5: getting home after their sleep.
Speaker 4: So if you have young children like you miss so
Speaker 4: much of their lives, you do.
Speaker 10: I feel I feel for the kids way more than
Speaker 10: I do the coaches, just because of the fact of you.
Speaker 10: Obviously you just said your father's not gonna be around
Speaker 10: as much because he's always working. You're getting you're having
Speaker 10: to move to different places. So then now you got
Speaker 10: to get into a new school. And then here's the
Speaker 10: worst part. If the team's not playing well, you got
Speaker 10: to hear all these you know, yeah, God, there's all
Speaker 10: the words I want to say I can't say talking
Speaker 10: about it, and you gotta and you're just like you
Speaker 10: don't even know what you're there's so much more to
Speaker 10: it than you know what's going on like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, funny, quick story. Kind we have to get out
Speaker 5: of here. We're leaving the Michigan game. Mathter Pinnix threw
Speaker 5: his last interception. I was like, all right, so let's
Speaker 5: let's let's get about here like it's overheating celebration.
Speaker 4: No, we're out here. It was poor Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: So we're walking, like literally walking out like we're in
Speaker 5: the middle of a bunch of Michigan fans, right, and
Speaker 5: I don't know how we got in the Michigan section,
Speaker 5: and literally all the fans were sitting by like all
Speaker 5: right bye by my son like puts the brakes on it,
Speaker 5: like go, looks at it and gives a mean bug.
Speaker 4: I'm like, just just go, just keep going.
Speaker 5: I'm like, my son's the most most respectful, like not
Speaker 5: I was smoking at all.
Speaker 4: And this dude gave the death there. I'm like, he
Speaker 4: has like a little temper. I'm like, bro, just keep walking.
Speaker 4: Would have let him pop on no, like I wish
Speaker 4: you would have let him get going. He was like
Speaker 4: I wanted to thrash them. It's like, bro, what I
Speaker 4: like space for his baby?
Speaker 9: Welcome to.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. All right, John, before we get out of here,
Speaker 4: what's your prediction for this week?
Speaker 10: Cowboys thirty, Packers twenty. I could see it being close,
Speaker 10: but I just think that this Cowboys team is so
Speaker 10: much better. And like I said, a couple or yesterday,
Speaker 10: a couple of days ago, Yeah, look at you. I
Speaker 10: just I think the Cowboys could have went fifteen to
Speaker 10: two against that Packers schedule. Yeah, and I don't know
Speaker 10: that the make the playoffs and if they had the
Speaker 10: Cowboys schedule.
Speaker 9: So yeah, thirty to twenty.
Speaker 4: Cowboys got it? All right, We'll give our predictions tomorrow.
Speaker 4: We'll have Josh Rodriguez on the show.
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