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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: I am Dale Lollly here with Matt Williamson and uh well,

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Speaker 1: we're heading into uh week fourteen. Here got kicked off

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Speaker 1: last night with the Los Angeles Rams coming from behind

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Speaker 1: to beat the Raiders seventeen sixteen. And that Raiders team

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Speaker 1: was one that had been a little bit hot. They'd

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Speaker 1: won three games in a row to get to five

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Speaker 1: and seven, same record as the Steelers have entering this week,

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Speaker 1: but now they fall to five and eight after losing

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Speaker 1: to the Rams and Baker Mayfield Mayfield directing a I

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Speaker 1: believe it was touchdown drive in the closing moments of

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Speaker 1: that game to knock off the Raiders who just didn't

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Speaker 1: look good. And we'll see the Raiders here in Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: in a few weeks. I just wonder if that's a

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Speaker 1: precursor of things to come for them. Josh Jacobs there

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Speaker 1: a star running back uh injuring his hand in that game,

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Speaker 1: played through it, but be interested to see what the

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Speaker 1: uh what the long term effects of that are coming

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Speaker 1: out of that game. Maybe they do they shut him

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Speaker 1: down he's gonna be a free agent at the end

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Speaker 1: of the year. Do does he shut himself down now

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Speaker 1: that they are five and eight and probably out of things,

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Speaker 1: out of the running here? Uh? In the a f

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Speaker 1: C playoff race. Um, you know, I that's a tough one.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you're if you're Josh Jacobs coming out

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Speaker 1: of that game last night and you lose with the

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Speaker 1: raven or the Raiders five and eight, do you just say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I put up fourteen hundred yards this season?

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Speaker 1: I'm good? Yeah. I mean he was really gutting it

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Speaker 1: out and you can tell. You can tell it was

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Speaker 1: bothering him, and he's throwing stiff arms with it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: and the first first play back in the game, do

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Speaker 1: you catch this? He's his hands mess. They run a

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Speaker 1: play to have him throw it back. I saw that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: is he dogging it? And then but he's screaming every

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Speaker 1: time he touches a ball or hits a helmet. Um,

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Speaker 1: I think we talked about this roader in the week.

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Speaker 1: I mean it applies as Steelers, the Browns, Raiders, Steelers there.

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Speaker 1: If you lose this week, you go to like a

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Speaker 1: one chance. Yeah, I mean you're basically done. If you

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Speaker 1: win this week, you're around fifteen percent chance. Now, I

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Speaker 1: mean they're they're out of it. I mean I think

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Speaker 1: that eliminated them, and they deserved that. They played really bad.

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Speaker 1: I think he shut it. I think I would shut

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Speaker 1: it down. Yeah, if I'm like I'm if i'm his Asian,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, you have four yards this year?

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Speaker 1: You're good? Yeah, you know, you show what you could do.

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Speaker 1: Broken bone in your hand or whatever, you know, or hey,

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Speaker 1: do you guys want to talk contract in the meantime?

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Speaker 1: You know. So, I think it's a good chance of

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Speaker 1: Steelers don't see him in a few weeks. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: a good point. It's a good point. And they because

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna like you want Let's say we had

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Speaker 1: this conversation. We're texting back and forth last night during

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Speaker 1: the game, and you said, well, it could be a pinky.

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Speaker 1: I said, well, there's a difference there. If it's the

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Speaker 1: high pinky, yeah, then they just then they just split it.

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Speaker 1: But if it's lower in the base of the hand,

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Speaker 1: now you're gonna put a plate in there to get

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Speaker 1: that thing to heal correctly. Um, not worth it at

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Speaker 1: this point, especially him and you're a free agent to

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Speaker 1: be Yeah, you don't want to linger into the off

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Speaker 1: season and teams like, wow, we don't. We don't think

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Speaker 1: the hand is you know, he's not gonna practice for

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Speaker 1: us for the first until training camp or something like that.

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Speaker 1: You wouldn't get that taken care of right away. Yeah

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Speaker 1: that makes sense. Yeah. Um, in a way, I'm kind

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Speaker 1: of talking about both ends of my mouth because I've

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Speaker 1: been praising Josh McDaniel a little bit for McDaniels for

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Speaker 1: getting the ball to Jacobs and Adams, well, it looked

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Speaker 1: like they really need a third guy. You know. It's

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Speaker 1: it's it's like a picture. It doesn't have that third

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Speaker 1: a big deal out of Adams having three catches for

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Speaker 1: seventy one yards in the first half and one of

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Speaker 1: those catches, but after that he didn't have a catch

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Speaker 1: in the second half. He might be the best receiver

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Speaker 1: or rent for or somebody like that. Uh. Looking at

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Speaker 1: this week's games, you got the eleven and one Eagles

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Speaker 1: at the seven form one Giants, Philadelphia favored by seven.

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Speaker 1: favored by ten, the over under forty three. It's a

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Speaker 1: have a good defense. I think the Bills win. Jets

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Speaker 1: aren't gonna sweep them. They Buffalo right, Yeah, yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: I mean I've taken a win, but ten seems like

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Speaker 1: a lot. I would think it's like six. Yeah. Moody

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Speaker 1: it's not the craziest thing, the Jets winning, But I

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Speaker 1: mean I think Mike White is playing well enough to

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Speaker 1: not he's owed four in his career against the Browns.

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Speaker 1: I don't quite understand it. I mean, I'm sure Miles

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Speaker 1: their state of the Bengals line, and I'm sure the

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Speaker 1: Browns have had success running the ball. Bersett had a

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Speaker 1: played against the Bengals either. I have no idea what

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Speaker 1: Cleveland's three and oh against spread against division in division

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Speaker 1: Walter picking the Bengals one to seven. Wow, that's the

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Speaker 1: that would be a statement. Yeah, I think they might

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Speaker 1: a little concern. Uh the ten and two vikings? Do

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Speaker 1: we care who wins that game? Um? From a Steelers perspective,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you if you think that the division

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Speaker 1: then it's gonna give you a chance to win the division.

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Speaker 1: But if you go ten and seven, you're making the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: because like the Raiders, if the Browns lose, I think

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Speaker 1: at the five and seven Lions Detroit favorite by two.

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Speaker 1: place that, I think I would take the points. But

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Speaker 1: I really think the Lions are playing better than they

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Speaker 1: are right now. Detroit is nineteen and ten against the

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Speaker 1: I understand why they're favored. I mean, I think they're

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Speaker 1: People are lose their mind over it. But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think i'd still take the points. Moody picking the Vikings

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Speaker 1: Dallas favored by seventeen and a half. The overrunner is

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Speaker 1: only forty four, seventeen and a half point spread in

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Speaker 1: the overunder forty four. I don't know how much you

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Speaker 1: me to bet on the Texas here. I mean, Dallas

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Speaker 1: a lot I got. I don't know how Vegas does this,

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Speaker 1: what's it take for people to balance this out in

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Speaker 1: three touchdowns? I mean, you never see twenty. Alright, that's

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Speaker 1: I think it keeps going up. Yeah, Eric Moody picking

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Speaker 1: guess Jacksonville still alive in the playoff race. In the end,

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Speaker 1: AFC South UH Tennessee favored by three and a half.

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Speaker 1: The overunder is forty one. I think Lawrence is truly questionable.

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Speaker 1: Though they said he was gonna give it a go

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Speaker 1: in practice today. I mean to me, that's a huge difference.

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Speaker 1: So I'm picking this game. Derrick Henry in his career,

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Speaker 1: all time leading high school rusher by Well, again, he's playing,

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Speaker 1: he's playing like Class A football in Jacksonville or in

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Speaker 1: the great backs in history, if it was like Tomlins

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Speaker 1: what it looks like in the high school field? I mean, geese,

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Speaker 1: jacksonlls one in five avans to spread on the road

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Speaker 1: this season. That being said, Eric Moody picking the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: must think Lawrence is playing. They must think Lawrence is playing.

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Speaker 1: are the other outside of Henry, how are they moving

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Speaker 1: the football? It's I mean they're using chig and woods

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Speaker 1: and these guys and it's it's rough. Do you think

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Speaker 1: the GM firing livens up the building a little? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Don't think you're not in bed. I don't think those

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Speaker 1: guys care, not about that. No, they're worried about the opponent.

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Speaker 1: Teammates and coaches. And the nine and three Chiefs are

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Speaker 1: they don't lose two in a row ever, and Denver

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a struggle. Uh. Russell Wilson is five

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Speaker 1: and oh against the spread in his career as at

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Speaker 1: five straight up in those games. Uh, he's only been

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Speaker 1: an eight year He's only been an eight plus under

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Speaker 1: That's like, that's like the end of career Matt Ryan

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Speaker 1: or Peyton Manning or you know like that. We can't

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Speaker 1: talk career statistics. And no, no, this guy Moody picking

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Yeah. Yeah, wow, Houston game. Yeah, I thought

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Speaker 1: six and six are at the forty Niners eight and four.

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Speaker 1: Big game in the NFC. This could be a playoff,

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Speaker 1: It could be a Week one wild card matchup Seattle

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Speaker 1: Win's division UM San Francisco favored by three and a half,

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Speaker 1: the over runner's only thirty seven and a half in

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Speaker 1: that game. I still might take the under. I bet

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Speaker 1: San fran games are going under a lot with that defense. Well,

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Speaker 1: the equation for Brady. Yeah, but if we take Mr

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Speaker 1: Irrelevant rookie over Brady, I am quarterbacks in their first

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Speaker 1: number and it's not good. It's not good. It's like

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Speaker 1: I'm still taking the Niners. I just think they're d

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Speaker 1: is gonna really be a problem for Tampa. Tampa Bay

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Speaker 1: is ten and two under this year. Yeah, thirty seven

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Speaker 1: has a cover. Yeah, Water picking the Buccaneers nineteen sixteen,

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Speaker 1: think the Bucks end up with a score. In the teams,

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Speaker 1: in the NFC. Obviously, Seattle favored by four the over

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Speaker 1: Caroline is relatively speaking in kind of a good spot

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Speaker 1: right now. Donald didn't play terrible like this, but they

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Speaker 1: last year the first his first three starts last year like, oh,

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Speaker 1: the idea that he might be their best quarterback this year.

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Speaker 1: Saying much coming off of bye, I just hate they're

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Speaker 1: traveling across country against you know, a pretty good team,

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Speaker 1: really tough place to play. I'm taking Seattle, Okay, as

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Speaker 1: are both writers. Moody picking the Seahawks, Walter picking the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks nineteen taking the cover in that one. Uh, the

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Speaker 1: eight and four Dolphins, this would be a fun one,

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Speaker 1: all right. The six and six Chargers Miami favored by

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Speaker 1: three the over under his fifty one and a half.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's gonna be fireworks in this one.

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Speaker 1: I think it's like the highest scoring game of the week.

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Speaker 1: It looks like Mike Williams is coming back. I think

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Speaker 1: Wattle is gonna play, you know, two quarterbacks in the

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Speaker 1: same class. I like Miami. I think people are a

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Speaker 1: mortal on on offense. But I think their formula is

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Speaker 1: going to tear these guys up. Um twelve of the

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Speaker 1: past fourteen meetings between these two teams, I've I've gone

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Speaker 1: under the total. I don't expect that that does have

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Speaker 1: no bearing whatsoever on this one. The way these teams

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Speaker 1: are constructed, Yeah, I think the Miami's got a coaching

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Speaker 1: advantage chart. Just lose this one. They're they're not done,

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Speaker 1: but they're better sweep after that. Yeah, they get a

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Speaker 1: winner out basically. Uh, Moody picking the Dolphins Walter picking

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins three. I will say this about the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: They played both of their games against the Chiefs already,

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Speaker 1: so those are out of the way. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what they have left on the schedule, but the rest

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Speaker 1: of division isn't hard. A lot of division games late

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Speaker 1: in the year, and probably at the Broncos coming up

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Speaker 1: a couple of times, like the Raiders again. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the schedules like, but they better

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Speaker 1: turn things around now. The Monday night match up the

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Speaker 1: big one snooze through this the six and six Patriots

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Speaker 1: at the four and eight Cardinals. Could there be a

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Speaker 1: more boring game? Will there be a pass that goes

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Speaker 1: a lot of sideways stuff. I mean, Arizona has got

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Speaker 1: I am not taking Kingsbury again. The Belichick that be

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Speaker 1: said all of the Patriots wins have come against lackluster quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: and they really do struggle against really athletic runners because

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Speaker 1: their linebackers are big plot or downhill you know, banger,

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Speaker 1: getting Kyler on the ground. I agree. We'll see how

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Speaker 1: much he runs in this one. Um, I think coach

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Speaker 1: Jane's coming there to Arizona has gone over in six

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Speaker 1: consecutive games. That's type of Chicago for the longest streak

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Speaker 1: Uh the over unders New England's favored by one. The

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Speaker 1: I knew it was a even is spread. Yeah, Moody

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Speaker 1: picking the Cardinals, Walter picking the Cardinals seventeen sixteen. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that's not an over. I think. I'll think the Patriots

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Speaker 1: just going to Belichick muck it up, probably run on

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Speaker 1: that's that's gonna be an interesting game. It's kind of interesting. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's an interesting game. It's when I don't

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Speaker 1: want to have to watch. It's low on the list

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Speaker 1: We're in into December, these games should be meaningful. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there are some teams that are Yeah, like last night,

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Speaker 1: you better win or you're basically done. Yeah, without a doubt. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta figure out a way to get

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Speaker 1: it done. Can't be happy with all that one man. No,

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Speaker 1: they just when you just when you thought you were

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Speaker 1: back into that's there. What third time this year they've

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Speaker 1: blown a double digit No, fourth time this year they

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Speaker 1: are making it a theme. Yeah. I didn't play well,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's just not a not a good football

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Speaker 1: team that showed up. Their defense stinks. The defense is bad,

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Speaker 1: it really is. The line is not great and they

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Speaker 1: need another weapon. Yeah. Yeah, the Baker stuff was kind

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Speaker 1: of cool, kind of cool, but at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, is it really gonna matter? Gives a chance?

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Speaker 1: He might be the Rams starter next year. Maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: it'll be the Raiders starter. I can see car moving,

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