WEBVTT - Second Date Update PODCAST: No Phones Social Experiment

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone for today's second date update named Cassidy,

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<v Speaker 1>and she said in her email that they did a

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<v Speaker 1>little social experiment on their first date. Didn't say what

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<v Speaker 1>it was, but I've done a few myself. So Cassidy,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing you both went to dinner with no pants

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<v Speaker 1>on to see if they'd still serve you. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to know it doesn't work. I mean, it really

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<v Speaker 1>depends on what restaurants you hit up. Well, yeah, if

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<v Speaker 1>they have one of those make your own omelet stations,

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<v Speaker 1>then you could probably get away with porky pig in it. There.

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<v Speaker 1>I see, I see what you're saying. They're pretty lax. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>But Cassidy, what are we talking about? Social experiment wise? Here? Cassidy?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh hi, guys, how are you? Oh Hi, You're doing

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<v Speaker 1>a second date update? Remember, maybe the social exp she's

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<v Speaker 1>doing is let's get on the radio and the net

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<v Speaker 1>talk see what happens. Sorry, I was texting somebody. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god. Really, we can't put her phone. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want you put your phone down now, But

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, concentrate Cassidy. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>priority for you. So who's this guy that you want

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<v Speaker 1>us to call while you text away? Okay? So this

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<v Speaker 1>guy name is Sam and I met on Twitter, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean on Tinder, okay, and I really liked him. He

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<v Speaker 1>was like a really unique guy. He had like the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect dad bod, which I'm very into. So he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>too muscular, he wasn't too skinny. I like that, stop it.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you in your twenties, Why are you going for

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<v Speaker 1>dad bods? You have the rest of your life to

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<v Speaker 1>be hooked up with a dad bod society. I'm just saying, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you're seeing you years should be not spent on dad bods.

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<v Speaker 1>You got the next fifty of them to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like you're too old and you're not taking

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of the dad bots. A she makes a good point. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, so Dad, but Sam that's his name? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, and what did you and Flabby do for

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<v Speaker 1>your day? So we went to go eat seafood okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and everything was really going great. And that's when the

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<v Speaker 1>social experiment came in. So wait, is this something you

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<v Speaker 1>guys came up with together or no, it was something

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<v Speaker 1>that he came up with. Oh what was it? So

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<v Speaker 1>he looked at me and he goes, do you trust me?

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<v Speaker 1>And I said yes? Why would you say that? You

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<v Speaker 1>never say yes immediately to a guy that just randomly

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<v Speaker 1>like do you jasmine? Yeah, especially guy you met on Tinder. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think the universe is telling you scream no.

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<v Speaker 1>He is not given a reason to not trust him. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>be it on Tinder is enough reason not to trust someone,

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<v Speaker 1>all right? So you said yes, what did he want

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<v Speaker 1>you to do? So I hand him my cell phone.

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<v Speaker 1>He tells me I can turn it off, calls over

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<v Speaker 1>the waiter and he hands the waiter both of our

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<v Speaker 1>cell phones and he says to him, don't give it

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<v Speaker 1>back until we're done with dessert. This guy's crazy. What

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<v Speaker 1>no phone? Yeah, I can't call for health now A

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<v Speaker 1>little late, I guess I could see. That's being like

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<v Speaker 1>a classy move, like he wants to focus on just

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<v Speaker 1>the two of them. Distractions. So as the waiter is

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<v Speaker 1>walking away with our cell phones, I was freaking out.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what is going on? I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 1>This is really strange, this is really weird. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was like trying not to be vocal about it, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a weird kind of thing to do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she's breaking into cold sweats and her hands start to shake.

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<v Speaker 1>You need your fix. I mean, how is anybody going

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<v Speaker 1>to know what your dessert looks like if you can't

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<v Speaker 1>take a picture of it exactly? You don't answer during

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<v Speaker 1>a date to feel the buzz, just to know it's

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<v Speaker 1>on you. Yeah, yeah, like people are with me on

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<v Speaker 1>this dage, I'm not alone. Sounds so jaded over here.

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<v Speaker 1>But he took the phone away, and so how did

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<v Speaker 1>it go? Actually, after the phones were gone and we

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<v Speaker 1>had no distractions, it ended up being really good and

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<v Speaker 1>we are focusing on each other. You're both listening and

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<v Speaker 1>talking and the whole thing was really sweet. Oh that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, did you end the date thinking, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, I'm never going to use my phone again.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, I would love to have my phone,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like a part of me. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was really nice for like that hour that we were

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<v Speaker 1>together that I didn't happen and we just got to

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<v Speaker 1>be with each other. Okay, that's great. So besides that,

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<v Speaker 1>did anything like weird happen? No, So afterwards we had

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<v Speaker 1>a really really great time. There was a small kiss. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought for sure I would get a text or

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<v Speaker 1>a call. But here's the thing, though, he's not taking

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<v Speaker 1>initiative and he hasn't asked me out on a second date.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm honestly shocked, Like I don't understand. So have

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<v Speaker 1>you tried to ask him out at all? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I've tried to like hint to him that I would

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<v Speaker 1>be really interested in going on another date with him,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's not taking the bait. So what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think it is that maybe turned him off? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I really want to know because I actually really

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<v Speaker 1>liked him. Right, how long has it been because if

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<v Speaker 1>he's not a big phone guy, obviously, maybe he literally

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<v Speaker 1>isn't checking his phone. Maybe he's writing you letters in

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<v Speaker 1>the mail and maybe a carrier pigeon is going to

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<v Speaker 1>bring it to your doorstep. I mean, it's been a while.

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<v Speaker 1>And so he should have asked by now. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I think this one is actually weird, like for someone

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<v Speaker 1>to be interested in enough to want to actually concentrate

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<v Speaker 1>on you during the date, give you a kiss. And

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't tell you guys, but he was so birst

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<v Speaker 1>meet and super cute during the dessert house. So he

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<v Speaker 1>asked for a candle for the tiramisu and I looked

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<v Speaker 1>at him and I was like, oh, it's not my birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not going to be my birthday for another six months.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was like, well, we should celebrate your half birthday,

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<v Speaker 1>and so the candle came out and he was like, singing,

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<v Speaker 1>happy half birthday to you. That's really cute. Oh my god, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was really cute. I would celebrate corner birthdays if

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<v Speaker 1>we got free dessert. I hope Dad bought. Sam turns

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<v Speaker 1>out as good as you say, is I like you? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, Sam apparently has already won over everybody

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<v Speaker 1>in this room. So if you won't go out with you,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he'll go out with Jose. Yeah, we're gonna play

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<v Speaker 1>a song come back. We'll give him a call and

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<v Speaker 1>see if we can get you a second date. Update

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Cassidy, cool think Okay, Well, on second, we've

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<v Speaker 1>got a very special caller on the phone with us

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<v Speaker 1>right now. One, two three, Happy birthday, Happy half birthday too. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thank Cassidy. Cassidy celebrated her half birthday recently when she

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<v Speaker 1>went out to dinner with a guy named Sam because

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<v Speaker 1>Sam asked the waiter to bring a candle to put

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<v Speaker 1>in their Tira messiou And when Cassidy said, my birthday

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<v Speaker 1>is not for six months, He's like, well, we'll just

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate your half birthday. Yes, dude, It's so cute. And Casside,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say toomb's up for you because I have

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<v Speaker 1>been trying to get people to celebrate my half birthday

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<v Speaker 1>for years and no one is on board. No one

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<v Speaker 1>can count that high though, so it's really hard to

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate her birthday always. That's what the funniest thing you

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<v Speaker 1>guys said all morning. Oh thanks Cassidy, thanks high praise.

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<v Speaker 1>Has any thing else come to your mind that's gone wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>because so far you have told us about the world's

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<v Speaker 1>most perfect tender date ever. I'm telling you he was

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<v Speaker 1>sweet yet the perfect dad bought everything was amazing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let me squeeze those love handles, Cassidy, maybe you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have the right amount of dad bod? Did you ever

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<v Speaker 1>think about that? Maybe? Maybe, maybe maybe sheet a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more tiramisiou the next time before you go out

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<v Speaker 1>on the date. That's a thing nobody finds mombod sexy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's not a thing. I think it's a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>How dare you say that? So? Yeah, even your own Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, you're expecting you're not. We're getting too weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just make the call to Sam and Cassidy. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try and get your second date update. All right? Cool?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, here we go. Hi, can I talk to Sam? Please?

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<v Speaker 1>This is Sam? Who's this? And this is young Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 1>work on the radio doing something called a second date update. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>oh so we're taking you don't listen very often? That's okay. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I heard of it. I don't know us.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay. This is actually probably pretty good news for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I would think a girl named Cassidy told us about you.

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<v Speaker 1>She said that you guys went on a date and

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<v Speaker 1>she had a great time. So you're calling me why?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what's going on? I don't understand. Well, we're

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<v Speaker 1>calling you because part of the second date update is

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<v Speaker 1>that we reach out to you and try and figure

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<v Speaker 1>out the reason why you're not calling someone back after

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<v Speaker 1>you go on a date with them. And Cassidy had

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<v Speaker 1>a great time with you, and for some reason, you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't asked her out again. So I'm assuming she talked

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<v Speaker 1>to you guys about this. Yeah, yep, she told us

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<v Speaker 1>all about how sexy your dad bought is. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>the little thing that you did with the Tierra messioux

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<v Speaker 1>and the candles. Applause, good move with a half birthday thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>On our end, the date seemed really good. So what's

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<v Speaker 1>the reason that you're not calling her back? Well, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>after this first experience, I just can't really see myself

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<v Speaker 1>with her. I guess you could say I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>just the type of girl that she is. Yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>does that mean? Well, I mean just her personality. I

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<v Speaker 1>just see some red flags. Okay, can you be more

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<v Speaker 1>specific When we first met, I mean, you know, first

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<v Speaker 1>impressions or everything. And my first impression on her was

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<v Speaker 1>really really good. It was it was almost kind of

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<v Speaker 1>too good. Oh that's it, red flag too good. That's

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<v Speaker 1>usually the number one. What does that mean? That's too good?

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<v Speaker 1>How is something too good? Look, normal people, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>make a really great first impression. Okay, there's usually something off,

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<v Speaker 1>something a little weird or awkward, and with her every

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<v Speaker 1>and we just postict and really comfortable. Okay, Sam, we

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<v Speaker 1>need to sit down because it sounds like you've been

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<v Speaker 1>on Tinder too long and what you expect at a

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<v Speaker 1>first date has really changed, because that is what you want. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>man Brooks, right, Like, what's really bothering you? Well, there's

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<v Speaker 1>one thing about her. It's this listening thing. What listening

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<v Speaker 1>thing she's She's a really good listener. I thought he

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna I don't know, what do you mean? I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you're not even hearing yourself right now, Sam,

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<v Speaker 1>hear him out. When somebody's a really good listener, it

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<v Speaker 1>just puts a lot of pressure on me to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of talk well and to be interesting. Okay, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>used to being on a date with a girl that

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<v Speaker 1>was so focused on me. Well, but it wasn't that

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<v Speaker 1>your whole plan because she told us about the like

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<v Speaker 1>social experiment you did where you had the waiter take

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<v Speaker 1>your phones. Yeah, but because you wanted to have the

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<v Speaker 1>time for you to to content right on each other,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's exactly what happened. So yeah, your idea worked. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're saying that you're upset that she was

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<v Speaker 1>listening to you. She just seemed like when when you

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<v Speaker 1>too good of a listener? And it just it rubbed

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<v Speaker 1>me a long way, it really did. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>actually do kind of see what he's saying, because she

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<v Speaker 1>has been listening to this whole conversation. So basically, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>too good of a listener, So you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>go on a date with me. See she did hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>She's listening. She's got the other line listening to the

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<v Speaker 1>conversation that was Cassidy. Hi, Like, are you serious? This

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<v Speaker 1>is honestly the most bizarre thing I've ever heard. I've

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<v Speaker 1>literally never heard a man complain about being too good

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<v Speaker 1>of a listener. I mean, are you normally do you

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<v Speaker 1>normally listen that? Well? That has happened in the dating world,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys like you, your red flag is all positives?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you realize that, Sam, I feel like this is

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<v Speaker 1>really about listening or fun conversations, Like, what's the real issue?

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's scared? Are you scared of commitment? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that what it is? You're scared of liking? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>in love with your mom? There's some deep seated route

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<v Speaker 1>to this behavior. I'm trying to figure it out. Listen, Cassidy,

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<v Speaker 1>you were so focused on me, and you were just

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<v Speaker 1>so overly kind of attentive. It just makes me think that, well,

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't know how to behave without her phone? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you kidding me right now? That's how you think you're crazy? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is pretty crazy talk. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>know now I don't. Yeah, it's like the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I can never remember people's names. If someone can remember

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<v Speaker 1>my name and met me once, I'm always like, how

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<v Speaker 1>did you do that? So if the whole day goes flawlessly,

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<v Speaker 1>I can kind of see why. It's like, how did

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<v Speaker 1>that even happen? But how frustrating, Cassidy, Like I would

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<v Speaker 1>be so frustrated right now if I were you. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>it just sounds like he wants another type of girl

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<v Speaker 1>and not me. You think it's an excuse. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe him. You think that he's just saying you're too perfect,

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<v Speaker 1>just to let you down easy, totally one hundred. Listen, No,

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<v Speaker 1>It isn't like that at all. I really I would

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<v Speaker 1>like to do this again. I just think that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I could throw out a couple of suggestions for you

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<v Speaker 1>the next time we do go out, you know, Oh yeah, sure, Sam,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you list them off? I told you before

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<v Speaker 1>that you made a really good first impression. How about

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<v Speaker 1>this second time around? Maybe don't do that. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you want her to do like show up late? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe not be so engaging. Maybe I want her to

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<v Speaker 1>have more awkward pauses. Yeah, stumble over your words? Make

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<v Speaker 1>him feel more comfortable, like he's not intimidated by this

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<v Speaker 1>perfect woman. I can't believe this is happening right now, Cassidy.

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<v Speaker 1>People talk a lot about themselves, okay, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want that. But I want someone that kind of talks

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<v Speaker 1>about themselves, you know, a decent amount, to the point

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<v Speaker 1>where I have to kind of fight to get a

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<v Speaker 1>word in. You know that makes me listen, Kessie. Okay, Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>hook is what you're trying to say? Sam? You just

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<v Speaker 1>want her to be more vulnerable with you and more herself.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't want somebody that makes that good of

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<v Speaker 1>a first impression. I want somebody that doesn't listen that great.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, even if you want to be kind to

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<v Speaker 1>clingy towards me, I'm totally cool with it. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>So just drop the y just to cling you just

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<v Speaker 1>want a little, a little cling from your ladies. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you good with that, Cassidy? No? No, hold on, Cassidy,

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<v Speaker 1>slow down. I thought you're a good listener. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>ask would you like to go out on another date

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<v Speaker 1>with Sam? We will pay for it. Come on, Cassie,

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<v Speaker 1>honestly think about it. It It might be kind of fun

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<v Speaker 1>to just go and try to have the worst date

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<v Speaker 1>you possibly can. I mean, just try to mess it

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<v Speaker 1>up bad. Forget his name. It'd just be a fun night. Cassidy,

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<v Speaker 1>Really listen to them, listen to what they're saying. I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're a good listener. And if you just go

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<v Speaker 1>buy a couple of the suggestions that I made, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's gonna be good. It's gonna be not too good,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's gonna be good. I don't we don't want

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<v Speaker 1>it to be great. So what do you say, Cassidy?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to be as imperfect woman? He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>deserve me. He needs to be with someone who's got

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<v Speaker 1>all of these things. That he wants because he's a

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<v Speaker 1>crazy person. Yeah. Still, he just needs a little less

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<v Speaker 1>self confidence Cassie. Actually, look, that wouldn't be that bad

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<v Speaker 1>because she did come off very self confidence. Oh gosh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's an instant turn off. It's terrible. Congrats Cassidy, Well yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean congrats, but sorry we couldn't get you a

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<v Speaker 1>second day. Yeah, as we got to the bottom of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, thanks for trying, you guys. Oh all right,

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<v Speaker 1>so did she say yes, I wasn't listening Moving ninety

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<v Speaker 1>two point five