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Speaker 1: we'll talk to Chris Mannox. He covers the NBA for
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated Sean Salisbury. He is a talk show host
Speaker 1: in Houston. Former NFL quarterback. On the possibility of the
Speaker 1: Texans trading J. J. Watt, Yes, Paul, excuse me, Yes,
Speaker 1: sorry to break the news to you, but the Houston
Speaker 1: Chronicle is saying maybe that's what the Texans should be doing.
Speaker 1: Will Fuller is a wide receiver that you might be
Speaker 1: able to trade him, and the Green Bay Packers reportedly
Speaker 1: are interested in him. If I'm the Texans, I would
Speaker 1: trade JJ Watt, depending on what I can get. Can
Speaker 1: I get a first round draft pick for JJ Watt?
Speaker 1: And if I can, I'm gonna trade JJ Watt. Bill
Speaker 1: O'Brien's not there any longer. And I think you got
Speaker 1: to decide are you trying to reload or rebuild? And
Speaker 1: I think coming into this season, we thought that they
Speaker 1: were reloading. This is a mess though. This is a
Speaker 1: mess going forward with the Tuxans salary cap issues. They
Speaker 1: don't have draft picks. But I could see J. J. Watt.
Speaker 1: You could send him to Seattle Green Bay, maybe have
Speaker 1: him with his brother in Pittsburgh. Yes, that was my
Speaker 1: wild Yeah, sure, why not. But we'll talk to Sean
Speaker 1: Salisbury about that. And the Rockets got a new head coach.
Speaker 1: He's a Steve Silas, Paul Silas's son, and I don't
Speaker 1: know what kind of system he's going to bring in there,
Speaker 1: but I don't think he can bring in a system.
Speaker 1: I think he's basically got to say, James Harden and
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook, let's run it back, and that's what's going
Speaker 1: to happen there. We'll talk to Mannix about Darryl Moray,
Speaker 1: who left Houston and he was the architect of that
Speaker 1: Rockets roster. Now he's in Philadelphia, and I think everybody's
Speaker 1: under the assumption now the seven six ers are going
Speaker 1: to be playing like the Houston Rockets. Darryl Moore is
Speaker 1: a bright guy. I don't think he's gonna go Let's
Speaker 1: bring Rockets ball to Philadelphia. I don't know what the
Speaker 1: plan is with Doc Rivers, but he'll have a plan
Speaker 1: to be able to incorporate Ben Simmons and Joe l
Speaker 1: embiid you at least give it one year. They have
Speaker 1: some big salary cap issues there with Al Horford Tobias Harris,
Speaker 1: but can you make it work? And what will that
Speaker 1: roster look like? What will their playing style look like?
Speaker 1: So Annex will join us coming up a little bit
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Speaker 1: play of the day, stat of the day, all of
Speaker 1: that forthcoming. And we talked about this yesterday. I had
Speaker 1: gotten word at ten ten Eastern time yesterday morning that
Speaker 1: the Wisconsin Nebraska game was in jeopardy and that Graham Mertz,
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback for Wisconsin, attested positive. And my source
Speaker 1: said that it's likely that he had tested positive prior
Speaker 1: to the game and had been around everybody in team
Speaker 1: activities during the week. And you had a couple other
Speaker 1: quarterbacks who attested. One other quarterback tested positive, and then
Speaker 1: you found out that they had coach attested positive. And
Speaker 1: now I think there's a bigger concern. My source told
Speaker 1: me last night, I'll give you the information that Nebraska
Speaker 1: wanted a schedule a non conference game this week. When
Speaker 1: they got the news yesterday. Nebraska was actively canvassing college
Speaker 1: football to see if they could get somebody to come
Speaker 1: to Lincoln to play a football game. As of now,
Speaker 1: I have not heard anything, but that's what my source set. Also,
Speaker 1: my source said the twenty one day isolation in the
Speaker 1: Big Ten was an overreaction to myo carditis, and they
Speaker 1: did this when there wasn't any data known. My source says,
Speaker 1: I can't imagine the Wisconsin Purdue game next week will
Speaker 1: be played now there is a report that debunks the
Speaker 1: cardiac concerns and that Wisconsin is saying. I believe Wisconsin
Speaker 1: is saying that you know this twenty one day window
Speaker 1: before players can come back from a positive virus test,
Speaker 1: that testing may not be needed for many and that
Speaker 1: they're going to try to limit the number of days
Speaker 1: that you have to sit out, because if you're out
Speaker 1: twenty one days and let's say you lose thirty players,
Speaker 1: that's half your season. Basically, it's three games that you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to sit out, and then your coach is
Speaker 1: going to have to sit out. And Wisconsin may have
Speaker 1: put the entire Big Ten season in jeopardy here, because
Speaker 1: if you're not going to be able to play. This
Speaker 1: really comes down to we thought Wisconsin was an outlier
Speaker 1: maybe for playing in the final four. We know Ohio
Speaker 1: State has the talent to play in the final four.
Speaker 1: You have to have enough games here, and if you're
Speaker 1: only going to play seven and then you're gonna have
Speaker 1: the championship weekend where everybody plays. Now I'm going to
Speaker 1: take away one game, two games, I take away three games,
Speaker 1: down down to five games. And now you're just going
Speaker 1: through the motions. You know, the PAC twelve hasn't even
Speaker 1: started yet. It's not starting this week. The PAC twelve
Speaker 1: doesn't started until the following week here, and that's basically
Speaker 1: a cash grab. Let's just go out get some money,
Speaker 1: you know, try to get some you know, money from
Speaker 1: our TV partners here, because nobody's going to be playing
Speaker 1: for anything in the PAC twelve except for a hollow
Speaker 1: PAC twelve championship. But that's the information I have. Nebraska
Speaker 1: as of yesterday morning, when they found out, started calling
Speaker 1: to see if they could get somebody to come to
Speaker 1: Lincoln to play. Yes, McLevin, so Wednesday, how do you
Speaker 1: game prep for a brand new opponent on Saturday? That
Speaker 1: seems crazy. This whole season is crazy. Yeah, see, but
Speaker 1: do they really expect they're just to be a team
Speaker 1: sitting around right now that's like, oh, yeah, we'll play.
Speaker 1: If Army was available, Army would play. I don't know
Speaker 1: if Army has a game this weekend, but it feels
Speaker 1: like Army would be there, b why you would be there?
Speaker 1: Arkansas State, Like it feels like there's like six teams
Speaker 1: that play at least twice a week. Yes, Armies got
Speaker 1: the weekend off. They just housed Mercer and they're getting
Speaker 1: ready to take the take down air Force in two weeks.
Speaker 1: Armies got the weekend off. We can call them up.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the skids a little bit, Dan, Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: how about North Dakota State. They got that almost like
Speaker 1: exemption where they played one game so they're able to
Speaker 1: have full practices. North Dakoa State. I don't know if
Speaker 1: from Nebraska would want them to come down. Yeah, be
Speaker 1: careful what you ask for. Like Wisconsin was coming to town.
Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, you're like, we can't get them,
Speaker 1: Let's get North Dakota State. But I don't know how
Speaker 1: any of this works. This is just what my source
Speaker 1: told me that now Wisconsin is trying to I don't
Speaker 1: know if they're petitioning the Big Ten, but I think
Speaker 1: that they're trying to talk to the medical experts in
Speaker 1: the Big Ten and you know, try to debate this
Speaker 1: or debunk this, or maybe not have it as a
Speaker 1: twenty one day window. It's not you know, based off
Speaker 1: of COVID, but this condition due to COVID, and they
Speaker 1: don't think that there's enough data there. But that's some
Speaker 1: of the stuff that's going on right now, and in
Speaker 1: many ways Big ten football is a microcosm of the
Speaker 1: uncertain situation surrounding COVID, and really every sport. You have
Speaker 1: a sound policy today and then that makes no sense tomorrow.
Speaker 1: First you cancel the season, and then, in part because
Speaker 1: of political pressure, you bring it back. Not everybody was
Speaker 1: on board, and by the time the season rolled around,
Speaker 1: the numbers were getting worse in some of these states,
Speaker 1: and Wisconsin Nebraska canceled for this weekend. I'm assuming the
Speaker 1: Badger is going to have a hard time planning against
Speaker 1: the following week. But hopefully what happened in Wisconsin is isolated.
Speaker 1: But you know, the strict guidelines make returning to play
Speaker 1: really complicated here, and there's no easy answers. I don't
Speaker 1: have any answers. I just deal in reality. Colleges they
Speaker 1: don't have the flexibility that the pro sports leagues do.
Speaker 1: They can't take off four months and come back. Students
Speaker 1: are there, they move on too quickly. None of this
Speaker 1: is going to be easy, especially for the Big Ten,
Speaker 1: whose inconsistency could end up hurting their chances of competing
Speaker 1: the completing the twenty twenty season. And we brought this
Speaker 1: up at the beginning when the Big Ten announced that
Speaker 1: they were canceling. I just wanted to know how aggressive
Speaker 1: were you at exploring all options, because you could build
Speaker 1: in buy weeks, safeguard weeks where if something happened, then
Speaker 1: you had an opportunity to regroup. And you don't have
Speaker 1: that because you waited, You waited, you waited, and then
Speaker 1: there was political pressure and then you decided to come back.
Speaker 1: Not everybody was on board. We didn't know that there
Speaker 1: were going to be hot states that are getting hotter
Speaker 1: and students coming back. You know, you can't bubble, and
Speaker 1: that's the big difference in college you can't bubble baseball.
Speaker 1: You can basketball, you can hockey, you can, but with
Speaker 1: college football you can't. And it's not a matter of if.
Speaker 1: But when you have an outbreak here and we've seen it,
Speaker 1: you know, sort of sporadically, but the Big Ten is
Speaker 1: just starting and if you have some of these hot
Speaker 1: stage Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Ohio, it's not a question of if,
Speaker 1: but when and how many? But that's the information I
Speaker 1: have so far with what's going on with Wisconsin and
Speaker 1: also what Nebraska was trying to do. And I don't
Speaker 1: think you can schedule the game today and have it
Speaker 1: played on Saturday. I'm thinking that they thought if they
Speaker 1: could get somebody yesterday, then maybe you could give them
Speaker 1: a couple of days to prepare for you. And even
Speaker 1: if you had a Saturday night game where you gave
Speaker 1: them a little extra time, they could travel on Saturday
Speaker 1: to get into Lincoln. But I don't know where that stands.
Speaker 1: And I'll check you with my source this morning and
Speaker 1: see if there's any more information with them. All Right, mclovet,
Speaker 1: you got a pull question today, Okay for our one,
Speaker 1: but we put up that JJ Watt question that you asked.
Speaker 1: What's a bigger question. Would you take a first round
Speaker 1: pick for JJ Watt for your Houston or would you
Speaker 1: give up a first round pick for JJ Watt if
Speaker 1: you're the teams you mentioned Green Bay somebody like that.
Speaker 1: I need to know how healthy he is. If you
Speaker 1: say that he's healthy as a what thirty two year old?
Speaker 1: Is he thirty one to thirty two? If you say
Speaker 1: he's healthy at that age, then yes, I'd give up
Speaker 1: a first round pick. You know, if I'm a team
Speaker 1: like Green Bay, somebody who needs help. You know, Seattle
Speaker 1: just picked up Carlos Dunlap. Now he's an edge rusher,
Speaker 1: you could always use another one. I mean, that's probably
Speaker 1: the worst pass defense in the NFL. And if you
Speaker 1: can bring him in there and he's gonna help you,
Speaker 1: you have to be a team that's on the verge
Speaker 1: of winning. And this is one of those where if
Speaker 1: I'm Kansas City, Kansas City, I'd go, I'm gonna blow
Speaker 1: everybody out of the water, like I'm I'm I'm taking
Speaker 1: no prisoners here. We're we're going to ensure that we're
Speaker 1: going back to the super Bowl. And I want to
Speaker 1: keep him from you know, one of our opponents here.
Speaker 1: And if I give up a first round pick for him,
Speaker 1: I get JJ for maybe two years, all right, I
Speaker 1: got a chance to win Super Bowls. And that's what
Speaker 1: Kansas City said that. And I don't know if Kansas
Speaker 1: City's interested in him. And I thought about the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: but the Cowboys are such a mess that it doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense to bring him in unless you say, well
Speaker 1: and Jerry likes shiny things, and you take him from
Speaker 1: the Texans. I got Captain America on America's team, But
Speaker 1: that's that doesn't and that's not going to help that team.
Speaker 1: You know, they're they're they're so inefficient on offense that
Speaker 1: JJ Watt is not going to help them. But if
Speaker 1: you said, hey, I can put him on the Steelers Seattle,
Speaker 1: Green Bay, Kansas City, I'd be all in with that.
Speaker 1: And if I only have to give up a first
Speaker 1: round draft pick, yeah, I'd do that. Yeah. Point. You know,
Speaker 1: as much as Packers fans may want to bring what
Speaker 1: back there, I don't know if that works for that team.
Speaker 1: And they used a first round pick on a quarterback
Speaker 1: who's not playing anytime soon, the second round pick on
Speaker 1: a running back who's third string. Now, they didn't draft
Speaker 1: a wide receiver, and if they trade draft capital for
Speaker 1: a non wide receiver right now, I don't know how
Speaker 1: that's going to play. But if he helps your defense,
Speaker 1: you know, their wide receivers appeared to be a lot
Speaker 1: better than people are given credit for. Put what back
Speaker 1: at tight ends in the old days. Yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 1: was it what Central Michigan. Yes, mclovin, I mean it
Speaker 1: does seem like they sort of redeem themselves for the
Speaker 1: wide receiver thing, because yeah, they have like the best
Speaker 1: passing at most efficient passing attack. Pittsburgh seems like they
Speaker 1: kill the quarterback already. Do they need to with JJ
Speaker 1: Watt even help them? I don't even Well they lost
Speaker 1: Bush for this season. Yeah he's a linebacker. But I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm just I'm just throwing teams out reunite,
Speaker 1: you know JJ with his brother TJ, who's there also,
Speaker 1: All these teams would be like the end of the
Speaker 1: first round. It's not like a high first round pay.
Speaker 1: It's like really a second round pick. Yes, but if
Speaker 1: I can, if I'm Seattle, then I would I would
Speaker 1: certainly roll the dice on something like this. You know,
Speaker 1: is Jamal Adams? How injured is he? I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: Because Dunlap's a good pickup for Seattle. He wanted out
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati and that's a good pickup for them. But
Speaker 1: they need a lot of help because that that secondary,
Speaker 1: that that past defense is really really bad. Of all
Speaker 1: the contenders, it's not even close where Seattle is and
Speaker 1: what they give up with all the other teams that
Speaker 1: we consider consider Super Bowl contenders. Yeami Jamal Adams could
Speaker 1: be back as early as this week. Okay, that's on
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Speaker 1: other poll questions do you have? Okay, I have an
Speaker 1: NF one that we can save. About which underdogs have
Speaker 1: the best shot this weekend? Okay, the Jets were twenty
Speaker 1: one point underdogs. They were not on the polls as
Speaker 1: a team most likely to win the game. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's now it's down to nineteen and a half.
Speaker 1: I heard that was beat down to nineteen and a half,
Speaker 1: which is I guess the biggest Jets Patriots spread since
Speaker 1: Randy Moss was in New England. But this isn't Jets Patriots. Oh,
Speaker 1: the biggest Jets sorry, the biggest Jets underdog spread. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but there have been bigger spreads. Twenty thirteen Broncos Jags
Speaker 1: was bigger than this, So it's not the biggest spread ever,
Speaker 1: but it's pretty big. But was the Broncos Jags spread?
Speaker 1: Was that the biggest ever? Was that like twenty six
Speaker 1: and a half? Yeah, that's what I'm seeing that that
Speaker 1: was the biggest spread at Allen Record twenty eight point
Speaker 1: home favorite. Oh and the Jags covered. Yeah, they beat
Speaker 1: him by sixteen. Yeah, Broncos one by sixteen. Can't you
Speaker 1: see the Chiefs just getting ugly with the Jets and
Speaker 1: keeping that within twenty Oh? You mean the game is ugly?
Speaker 1: I mean, like the Chiefs. Yeah, I remember the Chiefs
Speaker 1: Patriots game. They sort of ran the ball. The Chiefs
Speaker 1: have shown that they're not going to go aerial every game,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, but it feels like
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of a difference here. You're going
Speaker 1: against Bill Belichick and it's ugly, and you're going against
Speaker 1: Adam Gays Like that doesn't seem fair. Feels like Belichick
Speaker 1: could come up with something different, which he did and
Speaker 1: probably could have won that game if he had Cam
Speaker 1: in there. We've yet to see the Chiefs play at
Speaker 1: their best, which is kind of scary, but we have it,
Speaker 1: and you know, Patrick Mahomes, we've gotten almost numb to
Speaker 1: the fact that he's so good that you forget how
Speaker 1: you know, we talk about Aaron Rodgers start, Tom Brady start,
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson start, and then look at the numbers with
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, Like it's just a casual greatness that's there
Speaker 1: and his numbers are they like normally you'd go, wow,
Speaker 1: that's that's great. Starts of the season. Yeah, the club.
Speaker 1: Sixteen touchdowns, one intercept. Yeah, but we don't talk about him, Nope.
Speaker 1: Like that. You know, we fall all over Brady and
Speaker 1: in Rodgers and Russell Wilson Junior the third and then
Speaker 1: Mahomes is like, I don't know, we're winning and I
Speaker 1: get thrown one pick in sixteen touchdowns. Yeah, it's toime
Speaker 1: and you get spoiled with them. Even when they get
Speaker 1: a touchdown, if they don't do it like in three
Speaker 1: or four minutes, you're still wondering why did it take
Speaker 1: like six seven minutes for them to get in the injine, Yes, spoiling.
Speaker 1: It's interesting though, Mahomes two years ago through fifty touchdowns
Speaker 1: last year twenty six, if you paraded he was injured
Speaker 1: two games, it would have been thirty. He's on pace
Speaker 1: for thirty one this year. They're not crazy numbers, they're
Speaker 1: not out of hand numbers, but they're efficient numbers totally.
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is having a season where he could put up,
Speaker 1: you know, fifty forty five touchdowns. I did it. He's
Speaker 1: on pace for fifty eight. I believe no, is he
Speaker 1: yeah or something? Okay, crazy, I'll have to double check that.
Speaker 1: I'm not a analytics guy. All right, we'll settle on
Speaker 1: a poll question here, but we'll talk some NBA they're
Speaker 1: trying to start the season around Christmas because it's so
Speaker 1: valuable financially for the NBA, and the players do not
Speaker 1: want to start Christmas time. Plus, if Lebron doesn't want
Speaker 1: to show up for if Lebron's not coming down your
Speaker 1: chimney on Christmas, then they're not playing on Christmas. Just
Speaker 1: not going to happen. He hasn't had Christmas off in
Speaker 1: over a decade, and I think with what's happened with
Speaker 1: this season, you know, Well, we'll talk to Mannix about that,
Speaker 1: a couple other things basketball wise, and Johnny Bench will
Speaker 1: join us later on. Sean Salisbury joins us next. Couldn't
Speaker 1: the Texans. Are the Texans interested exploring the possibility of
Speaker 1: trading JJ Watt? That plus what baseball can and might
Speaker 1: do to Justin Turner and the Dodgers. So I had
Speaker 1: that for you coming up as well. Twenty after the Hour,
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Speaker 1: Houston Texans? Should the Houston Texans consider trading jj wat
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Speaker 1: Sports Talk seven ninety in Houston. The former NFL quarterback
Speaker 1: kind enough to join us, All right, Seohn? Should they
Speaker 1: consider trading him? Yeah? Well, first off, Dan, I got
Speaker 1: a voice like Fergie and Jesus. Okay, let's look, and
Speaker 1: I don't have a flannel shirt line. It's good to
Speaker 1: be odd. I think they should Dan. Here's what I
Speaker 1: think fan bases and people need to get over. Is
Speaker 1: that loyalty thing. Right, Oh my gosh, we can't let
Speaker 1: the guy who is fabulous in the community, three time
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year. But then you start to say,
Speaker 1: because I can promise you in Houston, considering what Bill
Speaker 1: O'Brien left the franchise assets wise, and the way they're
Speaker 1: paying them, and they're one and six because they are
Speaker 1: who they are. JJ's never went in a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: here and he's thirty one, and with the injury background
Speaker 1: now he is still a hell of a player. The
Speaker 1: problem is every year that goes by, the value starts
Speaker 1: to diminish. So if you're a team likes the Saint
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Seattle went got done Lap or the forty nine
Speaker 1: ers without boasts, and you say we're close, we're a
Speaker 1: player or two away, and especially in a league that
Speaker 1: doesn't play much defense, JJ Watt can help. So what
Speaker 1: do you get you're desperate, Maybe you give up a
Speaker 1: second rounder. You're never going to get a first but Dan,
Speaker 1: next year it's gonna be a fourth rounder or a
Speaker 1: fifth rounder. We just don't give assets away. So I
Speaker 1: would the Texans are going to have to rebuild. They're
Speaker 1: going to get rid of a lot of these guys
Speaker 1: in the offseason, they're trying to find a general manager
Speaker 1: and a coach. I would do it, as hard as
Speaker 1: it is for people to say, oh my gosh, JJ, this,
Speaker 1: you can't do that. When JJ retires and goes into
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, he'll come back a Texan. Right,
Speaker 1: you can, and you should. This team has no assets,
Speaker 1: no draft picks in the first couple rounds. It's time
Speaker 1: and JJ Watt outside of Deshaun Watson and Tonzil, you're
Speaker 1: not trading is your biggest value or maybe willful or
Speaker 1: it has to happen. But I don't think it's going
Speaker 1: to Dan. Why because they're afraid the death of the owner,
Speaker 1: first of all, is not heavily involved. I don't think
Speaker 1: Jack Easterby really I mean really wants to be involved.
Speaker 1: And by the time the deadline is going to pass,
Speaker 1: by the time a general manager and head coach are
Speaker 1: and I think they're so pr conscious about it and
Speaker 1: their loyalty that I think the pr hit for them
Speaker 1: they think would be too big. The truth of the
Speaker 1: matter is, if they want to do the right thing.
Speaker 1: Most fans in this town, once they got over the
Speaker 1: initial shock, would say it's about time and if you
Speaker 1: could milk a second round her, I don't think they
Speaker 1: have to. And there may be some buzz nationally, but
Speaker 1: you know there is minimal, if no buzz here locally.
Speaker 1: I've tried to create some. It ain't working very good,
Speaker 1: I promise you. Yeah, I just look at this and say,
Speaker 1: you know we're not going anywhere. What if it? JJ
Speaker 1: quietly privately said, look, if you want to trade me, don't.
Speaker 1: You don't have fans in the stand, Sean, so they
Speaker 1: hit you're going to take is not going to be seen.
Speaker 1: It's not a visual. They're not showing up for football
Speaker 1: games here. Maybe the local ratings might not be great,
Speaker 1: but if if I'm the Texans, I got to start
Speaker 1: thinking the next five years, not next week or the
Speaker 1: next year. And I think will Fuller, if Green Bay
Speaker 1: is willing to give you anything for him, thank you
Speaker 1: will some nice parting gifts. Absolutely, Dan, I'm one hundred
Speaker 1: percent with you, one percent because you look at this.
Speaker 1: You gotta you know, everybody begs for a franchise quarterback, right,
Speaker 1: you got him, but you're gonna waste him because no
Speaker 1: matter and he's one of the top you know, he's
Speaker 1: putting up yards and average yards for a temple. Look
Speaker 1: what it's getting them. They beat Jacksonville. Now look at
Speaker 1: the other side, even with JJ Watt out there, As
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick always says, I could take your best player
Speaker 1: away on defense. So what are they doing? You double him?
Speaker 1: They couldn't stop me, you or Katie High School on
Speaker 1: a Friday night from running the ball against him. So
Speaker 1: if that's the case, let's start to get assets and
Speaker 1: rebuild and learn. Now you've got a franchise quarterback, and
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Somebody Will Fuller is going to ask
Speaker 1: for a lot of money next year. Dan, and they're
Speaker 1: already so invested money wise at the wide receiver position,
Speaker 1: and they're one in six. I can find rookies to
Speaker 1: go one in six. He's gonna want what fifteen sixteen,
Speaker 1: seventeen million dollars. No, go get an asset, trading for
Speaker 1: a second or a third round pick and keep it moving.
Speaker 1: Son We got to move on. And if you want
Speaker 1: to build a franchise, there's no reason to wait. Because
Speaker 1: this team I can't even visualize where they're going in
Speaker 1: the next three or four years with no assets. I
Speaker 1: know one thing, I got a left tackle in a
Speaker 1: quarterback that ain't doing me any good. I can win
Speaker 1: one game with me at quarterback. But I also wonder,
Speaker 1: if I'm Eric B. Enemy, the offensive coordinator with the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: who's got he's going to have an opportunity to take
Speaker 1: his pick? Probably Let's say the Jets are open. I
Speaker 1: don't know if Jacksonville is going to be open, Atlanta's open?
Speaker 1: The Texans is you know that situation is open. If
Speaker 1: I'm Eric B. Enemy, you start to look at the
Speaker 1: inventory you have here with what's the future? Which my
Speaker 1: salary capboy kind of draft picks? Who do I have?
Speaker 1: I don't know. If Eric B. Enemy goes boy, Texans,
Speaker 1: that's the place I want to go. Yeah, And then
Speaker 1: you start to look at Atlanta too, Right, Dan, I
Speaker 1: mean that's a situation. You're exactly right. The one thing
Speaker 1: that drives you to the Texans is the number four? Right,
Speaker 1: you say number four? Then you say, well the front office,
Speaker 1: how committed are they? What's the general manager? What's his
Speaker 1: longevity here? But if Jets or Jacksonville, I may have
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence and I'd rather have Trevor Lawrence than DeShawn Watson.
Speaker 1: Dan I had posed the question yesterday on my show,
Speaker 1: would you trade Trevor Lawrence straight up for Deshaun Watson?
Speaker 1: The Jets wouldn't. The Texans should, right, But it's not
Speaker 1: going to happen. That's a foregone conclusion. So yeah, if
Speaker 1: i'm Eric b enemy, while it seems like, well, the
Speaker 1: best quarterback of all the guys you named is Deshaun Watson,
Speaker 1: but if you go to the Jets, it's a team,
Speaker 1: there's no expectations right off the bat. You go get
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, and maybe Trevor Lawrence makes that a free
Speaker 1: agent destination as well, and you have far more assets,
Speaker 1: and he's a generational type player. Watson maybe as well.
Speaker 1: But I'm with you, I don't think it's the lead
Speaker 1: dog anymore considering the situation here. Although the enemy's going
Speaker 1: to get a job, I'm not sure that Houston will
Speaker 1: be the first one on the list. Now he's Sean Salisbury.
Speaker 1: You can hear him on Sports Talk seven ninety and
Speaker 1: Houston The Sean Salisbury Show. While we're talking about trading
Speaker 1: iconic figures here, would the Rockets consider trading James Harden.
Speaker 1: I don't think they could trade Russell Westbrook, but would
Speaker 1: they consider trading James Harden been a huge topic now
Speaker 1: with Stephen Silas named the head coach down on My
Speaker 1: show this morning of why not if you're gonna go
Speaker 1: and just get there right because they're not winning an
Speaker 1: MBA title with the roster how it's constructed in the
Speaker 1: small ball and they don't have think about the lack
Speaker 1: of draft picks. The Astros with with the problems with
Speaker 1: the the Steins sign stealing the Rockets who've gotten rid
Speaker 1: of all. They don't have any assets coming in. And
Speaker 1: the Texans, Dan, we ain't got a draft pick till
Speaker 1: twenty forty. Okay, grand kids are going to be playing
Speaker 1: by then, so they won't. Dan, he's got more powered.
Speaker 1: I think James loves being powerful, and he is powerful
Speaker 1: in this organization. And once he walks out the door,
Speaker 1: what assets you're gonna get for him that are gonna
Speaker 1: help you win to get to a championship Because he
Speaker 1: goes out, his value is not going to get which
Speaker 1: he what four first round picks were they going to
Speaker 1: be picked? Is that the Knicks? Who's he going to
Speaker 1: and they love him here, and you say, well, are
Speaker 1: you going to get an offensive player? Would nobody trades
Speaker 1: like quarterbacks. Rarely do you trade a superstar that can
Speaker 1: score for you. And whether it's team's coming here or
Speaker 1: James going out, he's not going anywhere right now either,
Speaker 1: even with Daryl Moorey out of the building and on
Speaker 1: his way to Philly and a new head coach coming
Speaker 1: in and they're going to build it around James Harden.
Speaker 1: They're gonna win fifty games, they're gonna get to the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be eliminated. I would consider it if
Speaker 1: you're gonna read let's go now. But with that salary
Speaker 1: and with the love of this city and his offensive performance,
Speaker 1: James Harden is not going anywhere. Although that's another one
Speaker 1: that they should consider. Great to talk to you is
Speaker 1: always Sean. You got a couple of topics there to
Speaker 1: dive into on your show, certainly? Yeah, absolutely, Why are
Speaker 1: you smirking? I got a lot of time. I'm not smirking.
Speaker 1: I am. I am going to dive into all of them.
Speaker 1: But thank you. It's great to be on your show. Now.
Speaker 1: I'm always appreciate. Now there you go. I appreciate it. Dan, Thanks,
Speaker 1: thank you, Budding that Sean Salisbury morning host of The
Speaker 1: Sean Salisbury Show and Sports Sucks seven ninety Houston former
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback Quentin and Houston joining us. Hey, Quentin, Hey,
Speaker 1: how are you doing, Dan, sir? Good? Hey, it's actually
Speaker 1: kind of a nice surprise. I used to actually intern
Speaker 1: for Sean Salisbury a few used back when he was
Speaker 1: on that from radio. Oh nice. Yeah, Hey, I just
Speaker 1: wanted to call and talk about the JJ wat trade.
Speaker 1: So I'm actually a Kansas City fan living in Houston,
Speaker 1: and it's kind of odd to hear the local sports
Speaker 1: talk radio here talk about the Texans every day, because
Speaker 1: from what I'm hearing, I'm not so sure that the
Speaker 1: Texans will get a first round pick for JJ Watt, unless,
Speaker 1: of course, they package the deal with like a Kenny
Speaker 1: Stills or a Will Fuller. I just wanted to get
Speaker 1: your thought. Yeah, they might not. I mean I'm thinking
Speaker 1: if you get a late first round pick, that's sort
Speaker 1: of like a second round pick. But thanks for the
Speaker 1: phone call, Quentin. You're not going to get somebody in
Speaker 1: the top fifteen who's going to give up a draft pick,
Speaker 1: first round draft pick for JJ Watt. But you might
Speaker 1: get a first round pick, or maybe you get a
Speaker 1: second round pick this year and you get some fourth
Speaker 1: round pick down the road there. But you got to
Speaker 1: start thinking what is the future with some of these teams,
Speaker 1: Like what is the future with the Jets, what's the
Speaker 1: future with Jacksonville, what's the future with Atlanta? You have
Speaker 1: to start thinking now, what's the future with the Texans?
Speaker 1: Because if you don't act now, people are going to
Speaker 1: pass you by. Somebody's gonna get Trevor Lawrence. They start
Speaker 1: to rebuild. Justin Fields is going to go to the
Speaker 1: Jets or Jags, one of these teams. Then they're ready
Speaker 1: to go because they have that rookie salary at the
Speaker 1: quarterback position. And I just think that everything is predicated
Speaker 1: on that that you build your team, because you can
Speaker 1: build it around the rookie quarterback and then when he
Speaker 1: comes up for his big payday, you try to hold
Speaker 1: on to some of these players that you've already paid.
Speaker 1: That's the blueprint. And if you find that rookie quarterback.
Speaker 1: The Bengals are in good shape from the standpoint of
Speaker 1: they found their quarterback. The Chargers are in great shape.
Speaker 1: They found their quarterback. We don't know about the Dolphins yet,
Speaker 1: but that's why they're playing right now. They want to
Speaker 1: find out if you're the guy, because if you're not,
Speaker 1: like Baker Mayfield is probably playing for his future with
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns this year. And I'm not being overly dramatic,
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold's playing for his future right now with the
Speaker 1: Jets because they want to know, oh, are you the guy?
Speaker 1: If not, then we're going to be in position to
Speaker 1: get one of these quarterbacks. Everybody's looking for one, and
Speaker 1: when you find one, then you can go about your
Speaker 1: regular business and start building a team, building a roster.
Speaker 1: But that's the most important part. And Houston has their quarterback.
Speaker 1: They paid their quarterback. They don't have draft picks, they
Speaker 1: have salary cap issues, they don't have a head coach.
Speaker 1: And if I am Eric b Enemy, I don't want
Speaker 1: the Texans job, even though I have Deshaun Watson, because
Speaker 1: if I'm Eric b Enemy and I can coach Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence and have a rookie contract even with the Jets.
Speaker 1: If you said I could have Trevor Lawrence and I'd
Speaker 1: go to the Jets, or I could have Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: and go to the Texans. I'm going to take my
Speaker 1: chance with my quarterback and that I'm not paying an
Speaker 1: exorbitant amount of money. That's the philosophy, that's the blueprint.
Speaker 1: That's what it comes down with all these teams. Yes,
Speaker 1: mcclub Jets have almost sixty million dollars from cap SpaceX.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. You must have a smart GM
Speaker 1: because your smart GM is as valuable as your quarterback
Speaker 1: because he's got to make all these moves. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't bring in Levion Bell for fifteen million dollars
Speaker 1: a year and then not play him. You just you
Speaker 1: can't whiff on a draft pick. You have to have
Speaker 1: and you have to create an environment where players want
Speaker 1: to stay there, maybe even go there. Jamal Adams couldn't
Speaker 1: wait to get out because he knew. He knows. But
Speaker 1: if I don't have that GM who can create stability,
Speaker 1: you can always count on them. I mean, the Ravens
Speaker 1: are brilliantly run. You have an owner who lets his
Speaker 1: front office run the team and that's been their success.
Speaker 1: They draft well, they're smart, they make trades. You know.
Speaker 1: Baltimore is one of the best run organizations in all
Speaker 1: the sports, and that's what you need to have. The
Speaker 1: Brown's gonna have draft picks, high draft picks. They can
Speaker 1: have salary cap freedom. But if you don't have an
Speaker 1: owner who stays out of the way, and you don't
Speaker 1: have a GM who is a salary cap guy, a
Speaker 1: numbers guy smart enough to understand what we need, how
Speaker 1: we can fit it in. You got to have a
Speaker 1: destination people want to go play in and stay in.
Speaker 1: And that's really important. Yeah, Paul, going back to the
Speaker 1: possibility of whopping traded. You know, he's a little bit older,
Speaker 1: he's coming off some injured seasons, and he's quite expensive.
Speaker 1: You know, the team that's most likely to trade for
Speaker 1: him the Houston Texans, that would give up a lot
Speaker 1: of draft capital. Jj Watt has ninety nine career sacks.
Speaker 1: He's number ninety nine, by the way. Since twenty seventeen,
Speaker 1: t J Watt has forty sacks. Jj Watt has twenty
Speaker 1: three stat of the day, stat of the day, best
Speaker 1: stat of the day, stat of the day. He comes
Speaker 1: that what stat of the day? Yes, pay Yeah, just
Speaker 1: to elaborate on that. But before twenty seventeen, jj Watt
Speaker 1: has seventy six sacks. And his brother had zero. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just to clarify, and since TJ has only been in
Speaker 1: league since twenty seventeen, you're nitpicking. I just I don't
Speaker 1: know how many sacks he had at Wisconsin. Where's the
Speaker 1: stat on how many times JJ got double team though?
Speaker 1: Oh good, because TJ is never double team Why is
Speaker 1: it that we don't bring that up when Aaron Donald
Speaker 1: we talk about his stats. Aaron Donald gets double team
Speaker 1: more than any player in the game. We pick it
Speaker 1: up all the time. That's why we called the best
Speaker 1: player in the NFL. Everybody says that, But we don't
Speaker 1: say his numbers are down because he's double team because
Speaker 1: they're weirdly not. He's leading the league in sacks every year,
Speaker 1: which is crazy. Well, then that means, you know, if
Speaker 1: you're double teamed, then you should still be able to
Speaker 1: produce produce results. Here, Well, JJ freed up everybody else
Speaker 1: to get to the club. Yeah. By the way, what
Speaker 1: happened to Jadeveon Clowney? He can't say on the field
Speaker 1: for more than like three plays in a round. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you. You go back to that game against Michigan
Speaker 1: and the Outback Bowl, and it created this superhero and
Speaker 1: he's not he's not a great player. At times, he
Speaker 1: can be a good player, but he's he's more of
Speaker 1: a guy who stops the run, but he can't stay
Speaker 1: on the field. And I'm watching that Titans game. I
Speaker 1: forgot he played for the Titans. Yea, Clevin, Yeah tit
Speaker 1: though they're five and one. Now, what if they like
Speaker 1: go on kind of a super bowlish run? Will he
Speaker 1: be redeemed there? Even if he's not a star and
Speaker 1: he makes one big sack in the playoffs or something. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I don't know, but it feels
Speaker 1: like there was so much talk about, Oh, who's gonna
Speaker 1: get Jadavon Clowney, he's gonna stay in Seattle, who's gonna go?
Speaker 1: Who's gonna get Jadavin Clowney? And then we don't even
Speaker 1: say anything about Jadeveon Clowney when the season starts. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll take a break. Play of the day coming up
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Speaker 1: place play of the day, God playing play. This is
Speaker 1: the play of the day. Check this out, sin if
Speaker 1: its beating here by Abraham's tunasick and it's four and
Speaker 1: that as harsh I'm trusting it to But Christian Tunisi
Speaker 1: makes it four nil to Chelsea Tunisi. Good finish. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Christian ties the most goals all time in the UEFA
Speaker 1: Champions League by an American player. I told you, Paul,
Speaker 1: he was gonna be good. He called it, and you
Speaker 1: said he'll never be as good as Landon Donovan. No,
Speaker 1: he might turn out to be better. That's courtesy of
Speaker 1: CBS Sports Network. I actually snuck a peak at the
Speaker 1: UEFA Champions League last night, and I was searching around,
Speaker 1: what did you guys watch last night? Anybody walked? Now?
Speaker 1: I did watch a little Cobra Kai because I had
Speaker 1: to get in at least one episode. PAULI West Wing
Speaker 1: season five, which is horrendous if you're a west Wing fan.
Speaker 1: My wife and I are watching the entire series again.
Speaker 1: And when Aaron Sorkin left, he took he took the
Speaker 1: creativity with him. He didn't leave any Seaton, would you
Speaker 1: watch last night? Watched a lot of soccer yesterday, started
Speaker 1: at like two o'clock and pretty much went straight through.
Speaker 1: But then we watched this show on HBO called The
Speaker 1: Undoing Let's Kid. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty interesting. Yeah, maybe Levin,
Speaker 1: we're watching the right stuff on Prime. I think, uh,
Speaker 1: the astronauts stuff. It's pretty good. It's a little soap opera.
Speaker 1: Oh so this isn't the movie. No, no, sorry, there's
Speaker 1: a new series sort of broke up the movie into
Speaker 1: like eight parts. It's a little different than the movie. Um,
Speaker 1: but it's more like focused on the wives and the
Speaker 1: husband's relationships. And those astronauts were not great husband, I
Speaker 1: don't know, but they were stars. Yeah, back in the
Speaker 1: late sixties, early seventies, if you were an astronaut, you
Speaker 1: if if I don't you an athlete walks into a bar, politician,
Speaker 1: an astronaut, you want to be the astronaut? Yeah, pulling, Well,
Speaker 1: it could the blame could go either way. And these
Speaker 1: guys may be bad guys, but maybe they married. You
Speaker 1: know the woman wrong woman said I gotta get out
Speaker 1: of here. Man, I gotta get as far away from
Speaker 1: you know, how can I get as far away from
Speaker 1: our NASA you're hiring. Get me to the movie A
Speaker 1: buzz honey, I applied for a job at NASA. Oh,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? I'm thinking about being an astronaut.
Speaker 1: Be back in nine months. Yeah. Yeah. There's a scene
Speaker 1: where one of the astronauts walking on the street. It's
Speaker 1: like the Beatles. Women are crying and like hundreds of
Speaker 1: women are chasing him down the street. I just remember
Speaker 1: meeting Neil Armstrong at Pebble Beach and he wanted no
Speaker 1: attention whatsoever. He was not comfortable with it. But it
Speaker 1: still goes back to Peter Jacobson. He's a friend of
Speaker 1: mine and Jacobson a former professional golfer. And here's Neil
Speaker 1: Armstrong and you could tell he just he was he
Speaker 1: wanted to play in the tournament. He just didn't want
Speaker 1: to be bothered by anybody, which seems kind of strange
Speaker 1: because there's so many people that go to the Pebble
Speaker 1: Beach program. And Jacobson says, hey, Neil, this Stan Patrick,
Speaker 1: Hey Neil, why don't you tell him about walking on
Speaker 1: the moon. And you can just see him where he's
Speaker 1: going what And he goes, I'm just joke. I'm just joking.
Speaker 1: Tell him about the six iron you hit on the moon.
Speaker 1: He loves telling that story. Just the look on Neil
Speaker 1: Armstrong's face was, Oh no, that's the last thing I
Speaker 1: want to do. Yeah, mclevan, Well, we're talking about child
Speaker 1: actors peeking early, Like what do you do after you
Speaker 1: walk on the moon? I mean, there's not a lot
Speaker 1: left to achieve? Right, No? And I wonder if psychologically
Speaker 1: mentally that astronauts went through something like that that you
Speaker 1: have in athletes do this. I mean, when you think
Speaker 1: about an athlete, they're on an emotional high. They could
Speaker 1: be twenty three years of age and never reach that
Speaker 1: peak again. And then what happens when your career ends?
Speaker 1: What happens when you don't go to the moon anymore?
Speaker 1: Now you come back down, You literally come back down
Speaker 1: to Earth. Yes, bully, you see what I did with them?
Speaker 1: How do you think Neil Armstrong was when he walked
Speaker 1: on the moon? Just off top of your head, first,
Speaker 1: thirty eight thirty eight is correct? Ding ding ding ding ding.
Speaker 1: You're our moon guy. I am mc glad. It's the
Speaker 1: shark guy. I am the moon guy. I am yes.
Speaker 1: But that's there's certainly a generation of people that got
Speaker 1: to watch all of this stuff happen that must have
Speaker 1: been like just out of I mean, not out of
Speaker 1: this world's stupid, but like but like, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: could you imagine walking on the moon? And now for
Speaker 1: me growing up, it was like, yeah, of course that happened,
Speaker 1: but well, what's wait, what's the point. The point is
Speaker 1: that I can understand why these dudes were heroes at
Speaker 1: the time that now it's sort of like they're not
Speaker 1: as heroes. Okay, you know what I mean? Yeah, because
Speaker 1: you're meeting somebody and you can't help but look up
Speaker 1: and go he was up there. And I'm meeting Neil
Speaker 1: Armstrong and I'm going that dude who was on the moon,
Speaker 1: and you can't help but have that go. I don't
Speaker 1: want a fan boy this guy. But and I think
Speaker 1: he's from Ohio. I think he was from like Wapakanetta
Speaker 1: or something. Yes, Poli, I can't believe about to say,
Speaker 1: does it pass a man? Do you think anyone's ever
Speaker 1: mooned the Alarmstrong as his like as high school buddies?
Speaker 1: Here you go, moon guy? How about this moon? Check out?
Speaker 1: Why didn't you orbit this moon? There? Neil sounds like
Speaker 1: a Sandler thing, like in his next movie, You Mooned
Speaker 1: Neil Armstrong. This is one hour in the books, and
Speaker 1: we only have two more to go.