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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to stephone

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Speaker 1: never told your protection of iHeart Radio, And welcome to

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Speaker 1: is it Wednesday? Is today? Remember okay before I say Friday,

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Speaker 1: but you may be listening on a Friday. So hey,

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Speaker 1: but it's the faminest movie day. Put in whatever you want,

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Speaker 1: and today we are taking it all the way back

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Speaker 1: to two thousand one. Yes, y'all, I was in college

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Speaker 1: ready to roam the streets. I don't know, Actually I wasn't.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't like that, but ready to be independent and

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Speaker 1: find my purpose and uh yeah, also finding all the

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Speaker 1: rom com because that was like the age of rom

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Speaker 1: coms I think from to two thousand five. So many

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Speaker 1: do you remember those? Uh well, you definitely watched to

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Speaker 1: be it was like not my not my wheelhouse, as

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Speaker 1: we say when we're not being cool. But um so,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't watch them, but I do

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Speaker 1: recall like a lot of like Sandra Bullock movies romance

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Speaker 1: coming out at that time. There was a Sandra Bullock

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Speaker 1: and Keanu Reeves. It wasn't a wrong com, but it

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Speaker 1: was a romantic drama. No, no, there was later was

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Speaker 1: if a different one? I guess I could be a

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Speaker 1: wrong com adventure wrong. Um and yes, also taking about

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Speaker 1: two thousand one, this movie, for what I had just found,

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Speaker 1: is now apparently a part of the English pop culture.

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Speaker 1: Like I did not know that. I didn't know that big.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's great, it's a popular movie. I

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Speaker 1: just didn't think it was like a definition of something,

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Speaker 1: of a cultural something, but apparently had a lot of impact. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, this is a point to several articles. And

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Speaker 1: it was written last year because of the twenty anniversary.

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Speaker 1: Of course we're always like a year behind somehow that

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Speaker 1: they had the twentieth anniversary of the celebration of the

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Speaker 1: iconic film Bridget Jones Diary. So I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: love this movie. I was excited when I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: let's do something fun. We're gonna do a holiday film.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever seen Bridget Jones Diary? And You're like, no,

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Speaker 1: here we go And I'm sorry at a time, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I didn't know at the time, as I actually

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Speaker 1: I didn't know even now until I was researching. This

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Speaker 1: was one of the first movies that put Zellweger in

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Speaker 1: the runnings for an Academy Award for Best actress. She

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Speaker 1: was actually nominated for this role, and I was very surprised. Um,

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Speaker 1: I am one of those who did not take this seriously.

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Speaker 1: But they should be. They should be. If they're done well,

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Speaker 1: they should be taken seriously. But you know, as in fact,

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Speaker 1: the movie was nominated for many other awards like the

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Speaker 1: Bath Dust Golden Globes. Um they I think, and even

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Speaker 1: for MTV's Best Kiss Award between Zel and Colin Firth. Um. Yes, yes.

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Speaker 1: The movie was even listed by the American Film Institute

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Speaker 1: or the a f I, which a lot of people follow,

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Speaker 1: uh top ten movies in two thousand and eight, and

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Speaker 1: it was for the romantic comedy genre. But us still

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Speaker 1: was like, wow, that really hit. Apparently, and with the

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Speaker 1: success of the first movie, two more sequels came out,

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Speaker 1: including Bridget Jones, Edge of Reason and Bridget Jones Baby.

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Speaker 1: So I only watched Edge of Reason and it was interesting. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll describe the scene to you when we at the end,

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Speaker 1: because it's it's quite funny. But the way that the

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Speaker 1: numbers the sequel, the second one comes starts and opens

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Speaker 1: this kind of like what are right? So yes, and

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Speaker 1: apparently there's talks of a fourth edition possibly happening at

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Speaker 1: the leave Helen Fielding, who is the author of the

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Speaker 1: novel Ridget Jones's Diary. Um, and she is currently writing

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Speaker 1: the script for it or working on the script for it.

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Speaker 1: I think I saw correctly. Um. Also, I really found

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Speaker 1: it funny because when you read the interviews, one of

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Speaker 1: the things that I remember is the director Sharon Maguire

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Speaker 1: I guess America is getting us back for Vivian Lee's

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Speaker 1: role in Gone with a Win, comparing the two characters,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, don't get me wrong, Gone with

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Speaker 1: We need to know though, inquiring minds need to know. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So the movie was based on the novel written by

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Speaker 1: Helen Fielding Bridget Jones's diary, who helped write the screenplay

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Speaker 1: for the actual movie. The book is an interpretation of

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Speaker 1: Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice, and in it we see

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Speaker 1: and Pride and Prejudice. The character Mark Darcy, obviously like

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Speaker 1: but I love um, like like the character Bingley he's

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Speaker 1: like he's in it for a snippet. Um. And of

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Speaker 1: course it also stars Colin Firth as Darcy, who was

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Speaker 1: Darcy and the actual BBC classic, and it kind of

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Speaker 1: was like his iconic role. Uh. It was quite funny.

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Speaker 1: And when they were writing the script, when they were

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Speaker 1: writing this book, they were writing the script for him

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Speaker 1: like that. It was always going to be him who

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Speaker 1: the film stars Rena's Lwagger as Bridget, Colin Firth is

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Speaker 1: as Bridget smother Pamela Jones and Jim Broadbent as her

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Speaker 1: father Colin Jones. Um, we also meet Bridgets dear ends

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Speaker 1: three of those people were in um, Harry Potter. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I not been in it? Like everyone's been in literally

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Speaker 1: all of them been in there. How was I not there? Exactly? Um? Okay,

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Speaker 1: so let us get into the plot. So we meet

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Speaker 1: Bridget on a cold New Year's Day, arriving at her

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Speaker 1: Not so surprisingly, Bridget is an awkward, rambling mess, and

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Speaker 1: after a shaky introduction with Mark, we hear him telling

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Speaker 1: some verbally incontinent spinster who drinks like a fish, smokes

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Speaker 1: it was then Bridget decided she would turn her life around,

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Speaker 1: which for her included resolutions to start a diary, stop

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Speaker 1: Sensible boyfriend of course. Uh. Cut to meeting Bridget's boss,

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Speaker 1: flirtation with Clever about her clothing at work. Uh. Not

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Speaker 1: good start of the new year, as she says. But

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Speaker 1: the flirting works and soon Daniel asks for a date,

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Speaker 1: we um. At a work event, a book launch, Bridget

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Speaker 1: she learns that Daniel market or college mates, but according

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Speaker 1: she on day one of her job flashes her entire

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Speaker 1: country with her booty oh yeah, booty shas, which is

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Speaker 1: followed by a very painful dinner with all couples um.

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Speaker 1: There she's questioned as if she was an alien of

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Speaker 1: just pops up everywhere he does. After a long exhausting time,

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Speaker 1: Stoff stop it. Yeah, I think especially for young people,

425
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: it's so damaging because when you I remember being a

426
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 1: kid and when you don't have like the knowledge of

427
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: that of like, oh, of course they have to work

428
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: out and they get paid to do this and all

429
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 1: this stuff. All you know is you're seeing this, this

430
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: is the idealized thing. Why can't I be that? And

431
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: I remember so clearly. I know I've said it before

432
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: on here, but I just remember it so clearly. One time,

433
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 1: this model, super thin beautiful said, um, I don't get

434
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: what the big deal is. I eat whatever I want

435
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 1: and I never get fat, And so I was, why

436
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: can't I do that? Right? So we're not getting the

437
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: backsward just seeing this this and not getting all of

438
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: the details. And I think when you're young, that's so

439
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: damaging it is, And yeah, it's kind of like metabolism

440
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 1: changes as you age. Just wait, that's the moment of

441
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,959
Speaker 1: like my witchiness of like just wait till you get

442
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: like older. And like, I've never been skinny, so that's

443
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: not that's the warring concept to me. I've never been

444
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 1: skinny like that. And that's the problem is like this

445
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: movie having someone like renee Zel Lugger come in playing

446
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: this normal girl but being considering that to be fat.

447
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: She never calls her for that. She never, like Elbow,

448
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: never talks about that, but she does talk about the

449
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 1: fact that she's like, you know, I'm naturally thin. No no no, no,

450
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: no no, And I'm like, wow, it kind of feels

451
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: like it blows you to see that being the character

452
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: and iconic character and this is the person. At least

453
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: she didn't dona fat suit like she did in the

454
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: other movies. Thank you for that, I guess, But yeah,

455
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: it was definitely it is definitely problematic. The whole conversation problematic.

456
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: I think it's funny that they do talk about the

457
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: links that people women are willing to go to to

458
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 1: try to be skinny, and I think that's a conversation

459
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: that we need to have, um, including the sucking and

460
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: tummy underwear. I have those, those banks, I have them.

461
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: They hurt, they do hurt. Still angry about those things.

462
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, so we have to acknowledge that this is

463
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 1: a problematic movie. I will always be honest, but I

464
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: still love it. I still love it for what it was. Um,

465
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 1: So we'udn't get into the themes that is both good

466
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: and bad, and I think that's a little more on

467
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: content with what they are doing, including all the themes

468
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: of relationships. And this includes uh, of course, true love,

469
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: the finding of true love, which is what rom coms are. Yeah. Interesting,

470
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: I did have oh my gosh, this is so funny

471
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: now that I've watched all your movies. I did have

472
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 1: a moment. Like a lot of these rom coms, if

473
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: you change them music, it's a horror movie. It turned quickly,

474
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: it could the music really does it? Does do it? Um?

475
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, you've gotta I got you. This is the classic.

476
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: I've talked about this and I don't have a lot

477
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: of experience with romance, but there's always this kind of

478
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: like one woman, two men in sense, the triangle, you've

479
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: got to have it, the misunderstandings, the back and forth,

480
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: what do I really want? Um. I did think it

481
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: was interesting because, as you know, I've been talking a

482
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: lot about the Mandalorian lately. I did think it's interesting

483
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: they have their fight scene because it's kind of the

484
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: same thing I'm talking about in a much nerdier sense,

485
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: where you're you're expressing your love, your romantic love via

486
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: fist fight. But also they were kind of just angry

487
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: with each other, right, But it was just kind of

488
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, there it is, we did it.

489
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 1: And then I also found this interesting because I think

490
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: a lot of women and do this, and even me,

491
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: I did it and I'm not even straight, um, But

492
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: the whole idea of like I'm going to get it

493
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 1: together to get a man, it was very interesting and

494
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 1: I think, like I've had this discussion with a good

495
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: friend of mine before, where I do think there's a

496
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: difference between you can want to get healthier. You can

497
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: want to for yourself drink less, smoke less, exercise more

498
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 1: perfectly healthy. As we've said so many times on this show,

499
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: it's really hard to divorce that from all of the

500
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: societal baggage that we've just grown up in um and

501
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: soaked in um. But the idea of doing it for

502
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: a man, I think is just never it's never gonna

503
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: Like that means you're doing the thing that people did

504
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: in the fifties where you like wake up at four am. Well,

505
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: people are doing it now. We talked about that too.

506
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: Or you're doing the makeup and all the stuff that

507
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: they see you in all in the one state, Like

508
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: it just sounds kind of miserable. So I do think

509
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: that there's a double It can be a healthy thing,

510
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: but if you're only doing it for this person and

511
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: then you get this person, well happens like five years

512
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: down the road, and you're like, I'm tired, right, I

513
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: mean definitely, Uh. And her whole thing is getting a man,

514
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: getting a man, and that's kind of that conversation, like

515
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: that's tiring, it is, And like you said, it's a

516
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: wrong car. I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong really,

517
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: I just think it's something worth like recognize. Right, Oh yeah, absolutely,

518
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: because it does shape what you think you're supposed to want.

519
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: And we've talked about that was normal and was not,

520
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: and this made it seem like this is normal to

521
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: get yourself together for your future husband, and that's that's

522
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: the goal. Uh. And then the next goal is children,

523
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: which is actually the way this movie, these movies seem

524
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: to go. So there was another relationship that I really

525
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: loved between the father, her father, and her mother because

526
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: I don't you don't see it often, um where they

527
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: show older couples as actual humans with like growing into

528
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: their own relationships. I guess there's been a few more

529
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: that's done that better, but actually seeing yeah, this is

530
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: what marriage can look like. This is what it can

531
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: get down to, and it can it can be resolved

532
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: and it's beautiful, but let's talk about the realities. And

533
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: then one of the reality is maybe you are being

534
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: taken for granted, maybe you know, and and being seen

535
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: as silly and so therefore you're you're done and trying

536
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: to make up for her own life. And showing again

537
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: showing an older woman being able to move on if

538
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: she wanted to. That's unique to itself. Yeah, yeah, I

539
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: did think that was interesting because it's not like it

540
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: was I mean, it was played for comedy as it's

541
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: a wrong com but it's not like it was ever

542
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: saying necessarily that either of them were a bad person

543
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: or we're in the wrong. But it was much more like, yeah,

544
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: they're they've been together for a while and these issues

545
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: pop up and he's taking her for granted, she wants

546
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: to move on, but you can repair it. Like, I

547
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: did think that was that was interesting because I really

548
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: don't enjoy unless it's sound very well, the kind of

549
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: like blame game of that stuff. Certainly, sometimes we're like, yeah,

550
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: that person is in their own leaving. I said, hey,

551
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm see what I did. Um, But I mean, like

552
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: in a situation like this, I don't like when I

553
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of times in these kind of movies,

554
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: it would be like she's bad, she left, she gave up,

555
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: um x y Z didn't really didn't do that. I mean,

556
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: definitely felt like it was pitted a little bit, but

557
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: I think that you see the truth of it all.

558
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: And that's even from what I first watched a younger me.

559
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, he did these things, and he's

560
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: trying to work on it in a really bad possible

561
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: way because Bridge is giving him bad advice and honestly,

562
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: but like they come back together and and have a

563
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: conversation and work it out and they're looking like they're

564
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: trying to repair that relationship. And I was like, that's nice.

565
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: And also they'll be like seeing her mom being a

566
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: sexual being and I was like there you go, oh,

567
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: people like that's actually reality, let's see that and not

568
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: being kind of a joke but you know, not complete joke.

569
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: But you know, so I thought that was pretty cool.

570
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: Of course, you know, you have the family dynamics between

571
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: mother and daughter and father and daughter. Um. This definitely

572
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: felt like it played on the being a daddy's girl

573
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: mm hmmm type of thing. Yeah, for sure. I mean

574
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: that was interesting to see too because it it was cool.

575
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: It was cool to see their relationship and how complicated

576
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: it could be, but how it felt very loving. Um,

577
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: but those issues of like the mom always being like, well,

578
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: let's set you up, like you can't be signal, like

579
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: all of those things that we've seen before. But yeah,

580
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: I would say for sure it felt more like kind

581
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: of a daddy's girl. You know. They would get together

582
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: and kind of make fun of the mom. Yes, mom

583
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: was sounded ridiculous, but you know, it definitely had that

584
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: film to be fair, that isn't pride and prejudice. So

585
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: I think that's if you know, you know, like she

586
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: Elizabeth has a very close relationship with the dad. They

587
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: kind of make fun of other people. Our mom's over

588
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: the top trying to get her married. Um. So it

589
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: follows along and then we have, of course the friends,

590
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: UM and I love I love the core friends. You know,

591
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: this is exactly that level of like telling the people

592
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: who are the most honest with you, they're gonna joke

593
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: with you, but they're gonna pick you up too. Of course,

594
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: there are some caricatures in that group. You had to

595
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: represent all of the friends I guess in the world,

596
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: like the loud obnoxious one, the mouseie whiney one, and

597
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,479
Speaker 1: then the flat point one. Yeah, I mean, what are

598
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: you talking about? That's all the friends we have. What

599
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: am I? No, don't don't worry about it. Okay, now

600
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: I like that too. As we said in a recent episode,

601
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: we've clearly shown our colors and that we love seeing

602
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: supportive female friendships, but you know, being straight with you

603
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: when you need to hear it, backing up, backing you

604
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: up when you need it, and it was it was

605
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: nice to see. And then coming to I feel like

606
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: if we have relationships as a theme, singleness would be

607
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: a theme in the obviously Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's

608
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: the whole. As we said, that's kind of the whole.

609
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: How the movie starts, it's like the driving force of

610
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: it is she single, she wants to turn her life

611
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: around to get a man, and it is commented on

612
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: a lot, and like that scene where she's like the

613
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: only single one in all these couples and they're like,

614
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: and I've been that person. I was that person recently

615
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: and people were looking at me that way. They were like,

616
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: women still do this, and I was like, yes, what

617
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: world are you right? I mean, it's quite funny. Because

618
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: the beginning scenes we see her listening to Selin Dion,

619
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: which sitting good vibes of Selin Dion with that reason diagnosis,

620
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: uh slein Dion, and she's saying, you know, she's gonna

621
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: be alone and in wolves dogs are gonna come and

622
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: eat her because she's no one's going to discover her

623
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: since she's single and alone. Of course that cut scene,

624
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: of course, we've all talked about that. I'm like, I'm

625
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: pretty sure he just will eat my face. But but yeah,

626
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 1: like talking about that as part of the ultimate sadness,

627
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: right yeah, sadness and kind of almost a recoiling like

628
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: there's something's got to be wrong with you, right right, yeah.

629
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: But so that's one of the things where I'm like,

630
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: I get it. I get that pressure I gotta find

631
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: a man. And that was something I was thinking about

632
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: the other day because I am still single. As I said,

633
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: I just had this conversation with a group of people

634
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: who were looking at me like I was an animal

635
00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: in a zoo, like oh gosh, like bizarre. Um. But

636
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: I have noticed, and I'm not complaining per se, but

637
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: I've noticed as I've gotten older, I get a lot

638
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: more of the like okay, we got to find you somebody.

639
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: And I feel like a part of that is that

640
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: dreaded and completely nonsense kind of idea of the biological clock,

641
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: like I've aged down, it's too late, So she's not

642
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: gonna get anybody. She couldn't get anybody when she was younger,

643
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: she's not going to get anybody now. But that that

644
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: was just something I kind of picked up on watching

645
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: this because I I do still get that kind of attitude, clearly,

646
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: but for me it's more much more into like, oh

647
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: that's a shame, too bad, how how interesting v on?

648
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: And I have to feel like a part of that

649
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: is my age, but that could be wrong. Oh no, Um,

650
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: maybe it's just I feel like maybe more of like

651
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: we know that you're happy in your singleness, so yeah,

652
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: that's not like that's not something that you need. So yeah,

653
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: I mean there's certainly that too, But I think with

654
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: the those are like my friends who know me, I'm

655
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: talking about sort of the out Okay, okay, but I'll

656
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,439
Speaker 1: have a conversation with him, thank you. I will, because

657
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: that's one of the themes, is like constantly being set

658
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: up or constantly being reminded that they're single. Like she

659
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: talks about that throughout um as in fact, she came

660
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: up with how many people are getting divorced and that's

661
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 1: one in three and this is what two thousand one?

662
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: So um and then yeah, I think that was exactly

663
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: part of that in her trying to discover herself in

664
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: knowing that she would always be told as you you know,

665
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: singleness is m hmm, not necessarily bad, but it's definitely

666
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: not good, right as he calls her old girl. Yeah,

667
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this the other day. Um, and

668
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: this isn't an issue for me because again I'm very

669
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: happily single, and I know that for some people you

670
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: are not. And then we absolutely to see you. But

671
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: like you, you are reminded of it constantly, even if

672
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 1: it's not your friends or people in your life. Even

673
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: if it's it could be just like forms you have

674
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: to fill out or uh like just groceries and thinking

675
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: about things like that, Like it is a pretty a

676
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: pretty constant in one way or another. Our society has

677
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 1: very much like solidified the norm of by this age

678
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 1: you are married, and it's it's really impossible to ignore

679
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, it really is. And obviously

680
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: the holiday movies don't help because yeah, all the holiday

681
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: movies finding that perfect mate or finding that perfect thing

682
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: for your family, like it's all that's I think it's

683
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of any of the holiday movies

684
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: if I see anything different, even the violent ones. Is

685
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: protecting your family? Yeah, yeah, well listeners if you know one,

686
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: if you know one that's more like just friends, single

687
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 1: friends hanging out, let us just being there together, like

688
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: I'm talking really think other than like sitcoms that have

689
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:10,760
Speaker 1: already like Office, that's different except in several of the

690
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: episodes he's trying to impress the girl. He being Michael. Yeah. Yeah,

691
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: well I think part of that is, um, the you know,

692
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: I idealized theme of the holidays is togetherness, So it

693
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: makes sense to me. But I would like to see

694
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: something that was much more at least a couple options

695
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: of together a little different. Yeah, I think we could

696
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: make a make a movie movies. Um yeah. And then yeah,

697
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: of course, as we talked about the singleness versus the

698
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: married couples, that's definitely a lot in the themes. I

699
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: don't understand that, but funny enough, like that's the sex

700
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: in the City episode, the shoes, Single people don't they

701
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: like they talk about the US versus them. This is

702
00:39:54,880 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: like that dinner was obviously very smug married couples, except

703
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: for Natasha and Daniel, who were never pointed out by

704
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: the way when they're having this conversation, and I was

705
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: like why, But yeah, Like that was definitely a big

706
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: thing that I was like, Oh, this is why I

707
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: can't be around married people. Yeah. And as we always

708
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: joke when you have a sex in the same fact,

709
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: I have a Siginfeld fact, there's a Siginfeld episode like

710
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: this too, um, and it's it was interesting in that

711
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: I feel like the message of that episode. I think

712
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: sex in the City, if I am remembering quickly too

713
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 1: was kind of the you know, there's pros and cons

714
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: to both, right, um, but the the kind of judgment

715
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: being well, you're not doing my life and my life

716
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: is so good? Are you judging me from my life?

717
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, Like you're not fitting into what

718
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: I think. And as we've talked about, there is this

719
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: kind of unfortunate thing that can happen is when a

720
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: friend gets married, you might you won't see them as much,

721
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: and that makes sense because they got this other thing.

722
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: But then it does kind of become a like we

723
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: live in a bit of different worlds now. Um, so

724
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: that's something else that I get. I don't think that

725
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: it has to be a thing, but I do understand it.

726
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: You get it? Yeah, I think. Um, I think that's

727
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: definitely the conversation of like, I did have a friend

728
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: who did not invite me to things because she was

729
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: only doing a couple of things, even though I was

730
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: friends with all the couples, And I was like, what,

731
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: that's so weird. Why do you think I would be

732
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: uncomfortable to be around my friends? Right? I know there's

733
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: kind of an inherent implication from a lot of things

734
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: like that that you must be sad and you'll be

735
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: sadder if you see everyone else has a partner but you.

736
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: So I won't invite you or is it going to

737
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: just be y'all making out the whole time? Yeah, that's awkward.

738
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to be there for that.

739
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: But if we're just chilling and eating dinner, I don't

740
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: understand why I can't come that's supposed to me. I

741
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 1: don't know. Um, And you know what, I think Another theme, uh,

742
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: we didn't really talk about. We did talk about but

743
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: I haven't put down. But like, is Bridget being the

744
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: normal girl is very awkward, like trying to I think

745
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: that one of the big things and one of the

746
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: big poles that she was supposed to be relatable for everyone,

747
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: and not just the superstar uh movie star queen type

748
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: of person, but a person who was relatable, who was

749
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: a little thick, really wasn't um who does sess the

750
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,959
Speaker 1: wrong things, like all of those moments trying to show

751
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: her as normal mm hmm. Sometimes they try too hard,

752
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: but I think that was one of the big parts

753
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: of trying to make this movie more m digestible. I

754
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: guess what I'm saying for for the audience. Yeah, yeah,

755
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: it's supposed to endear you to her, and I think

756
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: it does. Um, but it what it did crack me up?

757
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 1: How many times like she like flashes somebody, or she's

758
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: running around in her underwear, she's in a playboy there's

759
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: still all these None of it was like overtly sexual

760
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: at all, but it was just kind of funny because

761
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, it's constant. It's constant that you're like, okay,

762
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: but you know you get that clumsy girl. Yes, not

763
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: the pixie man. A girl, but just like clumsy. Oh

764
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: she's so clumsy, but she's so cute girl. So I

765
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: think that's definitely a big part of this. And just

766
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 1: so you know, Annie, because I told you I was

767
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: gonna tell you. In the second one, the adventure is

768
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: for them to get together, and they still bring Daniel

769
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: Cleiber back into this, by the way, of course, And

770
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: it also goes into that she goes to Thailand and

771
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: if you are want to watch them, haven't I gets

772
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: turned this off but it's no years. Uh, it's not

773
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: that great. Um, but like she goes to Thailand, she

774
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: gets caught smuggling drugs and she didn't do it, someone

775
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: else put it in her bag. And then she goes

776
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: to Thailand. Joe, Oh wow, that is a turn. So

777
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: there you go and she's talking to the women and

778
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: Risen and they're like she's talking about how she's mad

779
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: at her boyfriend and she's like oh, and they're literally saying, oh,

780
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: does he beat you like my husband beats me? Like no,

781
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: I was like this, Scott really yeah. So yeah, that's

782
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: that's the second one. The third one I've never watched,

783
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 1: but I guess since the second one was about marriage,

784
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 1: Parson was, you know, finding a relationship seconds about marriage.

785
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: The third one is about a baby, Bridgie Jones's baby,

786
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: So I'm not really sure what the fourth one would

787
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: have that will be interesting. Divorced her kids. Okay, spoiler

788
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: alert for everybody if you plan to read these books

789
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 1: or if you haven't. I think he dies supposed to die?

790
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: Oh wow, well that would also be would also be

791
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: a twist. I have such a long I won't do

792
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: it obviously now, but I have such a long to

793
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: feel about how I find it fascinating that things that

794
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 1: started out so like upbeat, as the writer a creator

795
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: gets older, they get more and more cynical. And I'm like,

796
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: it's because you, I think, because you have gone through

797
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: things and your kid hates you. So now we're witnessing. Okay, well,

798
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: thank you for going down this road. What did you think?

799
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: I thought it was funny? Um, I had. I had

800
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: a good time watching it. I watched it with a

801
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: friend who had seen it a million times, so that

802
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: was really really fun to kind of get our different

803
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: like points of view. But yeah, yeah, it was. It's

804
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 1: so funny to me too, because I just don't watch

805
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: rom coms not often, so I was. My friend watches

806
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: them all the time, and so she would be like,

807
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: hair comes the this moment has to happen, this X

808
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: y Z, and it would happen, and I'd be like,

809
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: how do you know all this? And She's like, it's

810
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: a rom cop. I was like, oh, but I think

811
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: I've learned some things. I've learned something. Okay, Okay, I

812
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: like that. That's you're learning things from all rom coms. True,

813
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 1: that's true. Yeah. We'll talk about the list of movies later.

814
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: But I'm glad we went down this road. Thank you

815
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: listeners who went down this road with us. Tell us

816
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: your view, what your thoughts are, and if you're from

817
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: the UK, let us know. Did I just you know,

818
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: completely offend everyone. Yeah, all of our UK listeners are

819
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: done with listen. Yes, please let us know if you

820
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: have any suggestions for what our next movie should be. Yeah,

821
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: any thoughts on this one? You can share those thoughts

822
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 1: with us at Stephanie MoU Stuff at iHeart media dot com.

823
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at mom Stuff podcast,

824
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: or on Instagram and stuff I Never told you. Thanks

825
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: as always to our super producer at Grusdina. Thank you Christina,

826
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: and thanks to you for listening stuff owners to those

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Speaker 1: Projection I High Radio. For more podcast from my hur radio,

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